1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen or Hunt. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackout to his podcast. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rod, joined us always by my co host, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and we're live on a Monday night, ready to give 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: you some podcasts and find us exclusively on Spotify and 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: nowhere else. You know. I like to take the time 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: out to tell you a couple of other places where 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: you can't find us. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, we just lied to you. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: You can find us as guests on other shows, Yes 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: you can. 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I guess we'll get right into 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: the show, and I know there's like segments and stuff 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to do, but I was gonna keep it a little 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: bit looser today and just kind of talk about some 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: some ship that's been happening and whatnot. So uh, obviously 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the George Floyd trivet has been going on. I know 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: people have been seeing that. And uh, last night, I 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: think it was last night, maybe it was Saturday night, 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: but a man was shot and killed at a Minnesota 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: traffic stop. 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: So in Minnesota, as they're having a. 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Trial about a cop that kneeled on the black man's 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: neck and killed him, there's been more unrest. Believe the 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: town is called Brooklyn Center, Minnesota. And of course now 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: they're doing it's like we go through the same steps. 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: There's a curfew at seven because last night there were 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: people out and some people. 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: Were, you know, rioting or being violent or whatever. 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: To property as as you know, and it's it becomes 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: like a about everything except what happened. Initially, sir, they 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: did release the. 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: Video, and. 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I believe the officer. I saw the video 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: for myself. I believe the officer, but I also think 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: it's inexcusable what happened. But she thought she was pulling 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: her taser and she shot them. You in the video footage, 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: you can even hear her say I'll tease you, I'll 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: tease you, taser, taser, taser, because that's what you said. 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: To the other officers let them know to move out 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: the way so they don't get electrocuted, and instead she 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: ended up shooting with her gun, signed a single shot 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: from her handgun, and the officer says, like, holy shit, 75 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I shot him. And so of course it's just all 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: the steps. It's just you know, I'm sick of it. 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: It's every and I don't know that there's any better 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: way that this is going to play out. I don't 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: think there's I think the only thing that can stop 80 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: this is the initial not shooting some black person by 81 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: accident or on purpose in a situation that's not like 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: life threatening. 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: And that's it. 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: Because I feel like everything has been said before. There's 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: nothing new that I have to add to the conversation. 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing new any listener has to add to the conversation. 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing any pun that can say. It's literally like 88 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: watching the machine wind itself up and that like I 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: forget what that call, but like the beginning of Peewee's 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Playhouse or beginning of Back to the Future where you 91 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: just watched the ball roll down and they click stuff 92 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: fucking legos and they fall over into some dominoes and 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: that falls over and into a roller coaster in our 94 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: car rides down a roller coaster, and here, I don't 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: know what you call it, but I can pitch it 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: in my mind. Yeah, it's like something Goldberg machine or something, 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: but it just feel like the same shit. Yeah, real 98 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: Goldberg device. It feels like the same fucking thing. And 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not even mad. I'm just exhausted, 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I can't even be like, 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's like they say the Hulk said and 102 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Avengers where he says I'm always mad. Like I'm always 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: mad obviously whenever you see something like this happening. But 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: it's just like, man, we shoot so many people, We 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: kill so many people in this country. No, we just 106 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: accept it from our policing, we accept it from our citizens. Yes, sir, 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: you know it's a big chicken or egg cyclical argument 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: because I've never heard an argument for why people should 109 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: have guns that wasn't directly related to people having guns, correct, 110 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: not once. And I know it'll never happen, but it's 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: why it's the only actual solution that will work. No 112 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: other country has this problem, So you know, to act 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: like it's not an American fixation on weapons. It trickles 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: down to everything. Police get the claim they're scared of 115 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: their lives all the time because they everybody got a gun. 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: And now you don't even have to have a gun. 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Just the belief that somebody might have a gun. For 118 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: a cop, that's enough, you know, just Oh, I thought 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: something was happening. You know, we got so many guns. 120 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: When you go to pull your taser, you could accidentally 121 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: pull a gun. That's how many guns we got, you. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And it's one of those things where, 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: you know, depending on where it is, depending on how 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: they feel like, you know, because they could feel the same. 125 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure you know what I'm saying. So it's 126 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: just one of those things where you don't want anybody 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: to lose their lives, just period, no matter who the 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: person is on the other end, you know. But it's 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: just one of those things where it's just a wash, 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: rents and repeat. So because this is happening and you're 131 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: having to trial, people don't want to he excuses. 132 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's just it's crazy. This is insane, man, 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: you know. But we're always right back here. I saw 134 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: another video of an army guy who was pulled out 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: of his car by two police officers for they called 136 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: it failing the traffic violation. But it's like they literally 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: pulled him up for like some bullshit and yeah, he's suing, 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: and they fired the cop. But only after the video 139 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: went viral. Because this happened. 140 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: Like a month, like a while ago. 141 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I won't say, yeah, December, it happened in December, December, right, 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the video went viral on social media like two days ago. 143 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: The cop gets fired day after it goes viraled. So 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: how can I believe the police have even had a 145 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: problem with what happened, you know, And you know, like 146 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I said, I watched that video, it's not as quote 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: unquote traumatic because you know, you know, you're not about 148 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: to watch somebody get shot and killed or beaten down 149 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: or anything. But they do. 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Pepper spray him. 151 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: At one point in time, he has both his hands 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: out of the car like this, like out the window, 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, like and they both have their guns drawn 154 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: immediately like the like there's it's just escalation, you know, 155 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: and the fact that the police think this is accountability, 156 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: Well now that everyone knows he's fired because we're accountable, 157 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, it's just a weird, frustrating 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: day of seeing that kind of shit, you know, And 159 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want to not talk about that shit. I 160 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: don't have a lot to add, but just yeah, of 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: course we see it, you know, we see all that shit. 162 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: M yeah, we do. 163 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: And and like I said, I pick and choose what 164 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: I'm watching, what I consume. I haven't been watching the trial. 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie. I can't do it. 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: I don't. 167 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody's watching that trial. I know, 168 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, like, I don't know 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: how anybody could watch it now, But I guess, I 170 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: mean that's what they wanted. I guess, you know. But 171 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: it feels a lot more like Court TV and some 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: of the other things that I think really weren't good 173 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: for society, things that were supposed to be good. Oh 174 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: it's transparency, blah blah, but it just turns into a circus. 175 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: And because of how court works, we're gonna watch the 176 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: other side get the chance to and the anguish and 177 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: the pain that people feel already from watching people talk 178 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: about George Floyd's life and how they you know, and 179 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: what kind of man he was. That is gonna that's 180 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: nothing compared to the rage you're gonna feel when the 181 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: defense trots out every ridiculous bullshit theory and speculation they 182 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: can to justify having killed this man at cold But 183 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: there's no justification for what I saw on that tape. 184 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: So they're going to slap you in the face. And 185 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: everybody's just gonna sit down and wait for it and 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: get angry and rage for and keep watching. And I 187 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: just don't think it's good you you have to do. 188 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: I've learned over two years. You have to do what's 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: best for you, for you, for your mental health. And 190 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: I opt not to watch any of the trials. 191 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: It's just me personally. I don't. 192 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to watch them, regardless of what the 193 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: outcome is, guilty or not guilty. I just don't want 194 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: to watch them because mentally I. 195 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Can't handle it. My heart can't handle it. And I'm like, 196 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm good on that. You know, let 197 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: let let let the letting. 198 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: The lawyer buffs and all those people you know write 199 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: their thesis is online and write their thin pieces, you know, 200 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: because for a lot of them, this is a super Bowl. 201 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: You know, this is one of the few times that 202 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, go to them for 203 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: questions trying to understand. So I I I understand. 204 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Why a lot of those people that are in. 205 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: Those fields are doing it to help people understand the 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: process and why they're asking questions and things like that, 207 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: because that's what they do. 208 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking that at all. 209 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: You know, those people, I need to h they need 210 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: to be there for the people that want to watch it. 211 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: But you don't have to wreak me over colds over 212 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: and over again for me to realize that I don't 213 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: need to be here. 214 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like I get the people that have 215 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: this job, and you know whatnot but a lot of 216 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: this shit is like it's disasturbation. You're watching something that 217 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: you know is tragic and sad and there's no excuse 218 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: for it, and you're just like getting sad and and 219 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: and over, like repeating that cycle, building up your emotions 220 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: to a peak, over and over and over, and I 221 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, let me know when the verdict 222 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: is out, let's see what happens. I hope they I 223 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: hope he goes to jail. I don't, but you know, 224 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch every pain take and second, 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. I'm not curious about the process 226 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and need a lawyer to explain it to me. I 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: know what the fuck I saw. It's really not that 228 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: not to be a dick, but it's not that complicated 229 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: to me. I know what I saw, and I don't 230 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: know any human being that could watch that that is 231 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: that that would arrive to a different conclusion. 232 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: And that was a murder. 233 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: And I don't want to I don't want and I 234 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: don't even want to talk to anybody that thinks something 235 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: different like I don't want to see. I don't need 236 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: to be gas lit by the defense attorneys and the 237 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: commentators that come on, you know, the different channels to 238 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: debate both sides. I don't need any of that in 239 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: my life. I'm good. Yeah. 240 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: And one good thing that I do really enjoy and 241 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: I really love about working from home is when like 242 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: this happened, I don't have to talk to nobody. You 243 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: don't have to do with coworkers and people that don't 244 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: give a fuck about nothing, but they want to come 245 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: and ask you about this bullshit. 246 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: You go, well, you don't talk to me about nothing else, 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: why do you want to talk me about this, Yeah, 248 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm not. Yeah, it's just I'm not interested in that. 249 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: You know. Another thing I don't think I'm interested in 250 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm gonna watch is Uh there's 251 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a series on Amazon called Them. It's like a horror series, 252 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: but it's black horror, you know, specifically racial trauma horror 253 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it's weird because to me, the 254 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: same thing happened to Malcolm Marie and all this other 255 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: shit has happened where specifically on black people. Black Twitter 256 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: is our discussion because it's not really I don't think 257 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: white people even watch this shit, or if they do, 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: they might they can appreciate it for in a way 259 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: that most black people probably can't because of trauma. For 260 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: black people, it could be too real, you know what 261 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean. Like these things did happen, and many black 262 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: people don't even want to care to see them depict 263 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: it in any form. Right, So I haven't watched it. 264 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's not good or whatever. I've 265 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: heard people say it isn't good. I've heard people say, oh, 266 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: it's good though it Yeah, most of the people I 267 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: know that think it isn't good are people that have 268 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: a hard time watching anything with black trauma in it, 269 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: so though and not and I'm not saying it's like 270 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm better than them, but that's not one of my 271 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: hang ups. So I don't need I don't. I don't 272 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: need it in that type of way, like I don't 273 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: need a coddling or whatever. I just think most of 274 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the time hard is bad period, because hard is one 275 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: of the few things where you don't have to make sense, 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Like quite often your plot can do whatever the fuck 277 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: it feels like doing it, cause it's god damn, it's hard, 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like the point was to 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: scare of you. Did you get scared? I'm like, I 280 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: got scared because I know what the fuck was happening. 281 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: That's not the same as you writing a good script. 282 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: And that's not exclusive to white people or any trumpa Like, 283 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: people use trauma at work all the time, so it's 284 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: not exclusive to that. It's just hard normally as a 285 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: cop out. You know. One of the reasons I really 286 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: ended up enjoying Lovecraft is that even though they build 287 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: it as hard, it turned out to be yes, and 288 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: so plot lines had to come back and make sense 289 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: and tie in together. 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: And I enjoy like like, like is my jam, even 291 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: though I probably need to watch more, but I like this. 292 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: Form of What I thought was interesting though, was how 293 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: many people knew they wouldn't enjoy it and watched it 294 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: to fit in with everyone that was gonna watch it. 295 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, fomo for sure shared hate connections 296 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: on social media, wanting to be on the inside, wanting 297 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: to feel like, let me see it for myself then. 298 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: But my thing is, I haven't seen one person that 299 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: surprised me with the opinion everybody who didn't like it. 300 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: It's the exact type of person I think wouldn't like it. Yes, 301 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Like why are we even? Like what did you like? So? 302 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: This is what I mean? Why did you watch it? 303 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 5: Right? 304 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Because I feel the same way about the George Floyd Trout. 305 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Why are Derrick Chauvans trial? Fuck? But yeah, I feel 306 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: the same way. Why would you watch it? You know 307 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: how you feel about that shit? There's nothing in that 308 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: series look like, oh this is gonna this is gonna 309 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: be off the hook, It's gonna be good times, and like, no, 310 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: it's not, you know, it's there was no reason that 311 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: people were I think Lina Done Lena Waite produced two episodes, 312 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: not the whole series, but two episodes. People was like, 313 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: this is more Lena Doneham, Lena Waite trash, and I 314 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: was like, you don't like Leana Wave's shit in that 315 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: way when she does shit like this. You hated Queen 316 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: and Slim. Why are you watching this and this is 317 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: your job? Why would you even consume this? Then? And 318 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: then because then we had to his do we have 319 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: to his history onis of I'm sick of black trauma. 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: All the black stuff is this, that and the other. 321 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: It's not true, not true, and you're you're ignoring so 322 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: much black work. So you can just go down the 323 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: timeline about how much more traumatized you are because you 324 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to miss out. You didn't want to be 325 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: one of the people that didn't watch this ship, and like, 326 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I'm human. I was curious to 327 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: when I seen all the arguing and debating and ship, 328 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe if I watch it it'll be good, 329 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: who knows, But it's like, no, actually, it is not 330 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: my type of ship in the first place. Why the 331 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: fuck would I watch this? There's so much other ship 332 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: that I love. Invincible uh uh, Falcon in the Winter 333 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Soldiers American Winter Soldier falcon in the Winter Soldier. So 334 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: this is you know, there's a bunch of this ship 335 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: that I liked. So you know I watched the pilot 336 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: for Kung Fu this week load you watched it took? Yeah? 337 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I love that was really good. W Yes, I can't 338 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: even keep up with the the ship I want to watch. 339 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: Why the fuck am I gonna watch something that people 340 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: feel like it's terrible? And then also I can't pretend 341 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: that it's not an environment that people are trying to 342 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: win the who's the most traumatized and at the end 343 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: of the day. To be frank, I think it's whack 344 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: when people say the stuff shouldn't be made. I actually 345 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: think it's whack because just because you don't like it 346 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get to speak for all black people. 347 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: And no one should get to watch this. It shouldn't exist. 348 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: You know when the last time people talked like that, 349 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: they talked about Confederate and they said that even with 350 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: the black writers they were bringing in the husband and 351 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: wife team, they said, I don't want to see anything 352 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: they do. Fuck them. Uh, this show is gonna be racist, 353 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be terrible. Who the fuck will watch this 354 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But you know what, the niggas love 355 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Falcon in the Winter Soldier. You know who's writing it? 356 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: That many people. So it's like, I don't know why 357 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: the fuck we feel like we need to figure out 358 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: a way to make this black art not exist, or 359 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: anything that paints with the brushstroke of trauma should not 360 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: be made if you're black, while we we're the only 361 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: somehow we got to be the only people that can't 362 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: paint with our trauma because somebody said, well, I'm tired 363 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: of us saying that we're the only ones. I'm like, 364 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: we are the only ones. No one's saying that when 365 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: it's Schindler's List, No one's saying that, when it's thirty 366 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: seven World War two film, no one's saying. 367 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: That the only ones that that trauma. 368 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: Somehow we got to be If a woman wants to 369 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: make an empowering film about sexual assault or something that 370 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: happened to her, no one's gonna tell her you can't 371 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: use that in your work. They're like, no, if you 372 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: want to put that in your work and that's that's 373 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: your experience, you're free to use. That doesn't mean I 374 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: have to like it. But you're free to use it. 375 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: We're the only motherfuckers that get shitted on for just 376 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: being like, I want to talk about the things that 377 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: happened to me and what it made me feel, which 378 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: is what art is. 379 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: Get right and me and you talked about this before, 380 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: and we are in a generation now where people do 381 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: not like to tap into emotions. If you make niggas 382 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: feel anything, then it's a negative response. I'm happy as 383 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: a negative response, I'm sad. It's a negative respond I'm depressed. 384 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: It as a negative respond I'm scared. As a negative response. 385 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm traumatizing. 386 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: It's always a fucking negative response. Art is supposed to 387 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: make you respond like that's the whole purpose, and you 388 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: run away from the emotions it's supposed to make you feel. 389 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: But we're living in a society now where nobody wants 390 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: to feel shit, right, and you don't want to feel 391 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: shit because if you start feeling shit, guess what, you 392 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: have to be held accountable for your actions. If you 393 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: start feeling shit, the people that you drag, the people 394 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: that you bash, the people that you go after, the 395 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: people that you think you're better than, all these people, 396 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you would have to say, oh 397 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: my gosh, the human beings too. But so you won't 398 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: do that. So what you do you cut off those 399 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: emotions so you don't allow those emotions to flow, and 400 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: not allow those emotions to flow, allow you to be 401 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: cold hearted towards other human beings. 402 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just want to fill certain emotions all the 403 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: time with your art, which you're allowed to do, then 404 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: go cherry pick those. But some people want to feel 405 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: a range of shit, you know. And this is like 406 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: I said, This isn't me saying this thing was good. 407 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you myself. It looked like something I wouldn't 408 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: be interested in. What you won't hear me say is 409 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: no black people should be interested in this. I won't 410 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: watch it, and nobody else should be allowed to watch it. 411 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: They should never let these people work again that kind 412 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: of shit. It's just like, dog, it's perfectly fine to 413 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: be like, it's not my thing, or even I watched it, 414 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: didn't like it, and you know what I mean. But 415 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: it's this next level that these people shouldn't be able 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: to work. I'm like, how are you any better than 417 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: the white people boxing out niggas from jobs? 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: Right? And and and because I've been on the internet 419 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: long enough. What kills me with this group of people 420 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: is that they clean their room for everybody black. 421 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: That's not true. 422 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: You own a root for certain black people if you 423 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: like them, because niggas do some shit you don't like, 424 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: or do art you don't like. We got to hear 425 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: you trashing them down the timeline because you don't like them, 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: or like they work, or like they stand, like what 427 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: they said. So no, you really don't root for everybody black. 428 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: And then you'll turn around and, like that little girl 429 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: for that TV show, complain, complain, complain, people lose their jobs. 430 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: Now you're like, well give them a job, bitch. 431 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: They had a job. So you can't have it both ways. 432 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 3: You can't complain into the people don't have work, and 433 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: they'd be like, well, whyn't Why won't nobody get an opportunity? 434 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: Why don't they have a job. 435 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: They had the opportunity dad work. 436 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that that that thing last year where 437 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: they said they stole the style and the story from 438 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: the short about hair and that, and then got mad 439 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that that little girl who was supposed to be the 440 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: breakout start of the series was never gonna get to 441 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: work or whatever. And it turned out the plot wasn't 442 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: even the same, and there was other children, all this 443 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: other shit, and it was like, how are you trying 444 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: to have it both ways? Now? Now she's just a 445 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: poor victim of da da Dad. You were the people 446 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: that said this thing shouldn't exist when they introduce you 447 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: to this little black girl like and she's she's on 448 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: her ig, Like, y'all, I'm sad that I won't get 449 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: a chance to really get my show out there. We 450 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: need to get her a job. She had a job. 451 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: We could have been mature about it. We could have 452 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: We could have been the ones that been like, yeah, 453 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: we actually aren't gonna try to hype up the negative 454 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: aspects of this. We actually can see how it's not 455 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: as insidious as people say, and that if there's something 456 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: to be worked out, it could be worked out in 457 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: a court of law with people. But instead we worked 458 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: it out in the court of public opinion and shut 459 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: the shit down, you know. So, like I said, it's 460 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: not even a matter of it's not a matter of 461 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: you can't like this, which is what everybody who's shitting 462 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: on it, that's what they just heard me say. Because 463 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: they don't they're not gonna listen. No, you don't have 464 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: to like it. You can dislike it for whatever reason 465 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: you want. 466 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: Period. 467 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be good. There's a bunch of 468 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: shit I think isn't good. I don't like just being 469 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: black ain't good enough for me. Blah blah blah. It's 470 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: not I didn't like Queen is slimb You know, I've 471 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: talked about it in my review. But it's a difference 472 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: between that and me going lean a work way, should 473 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: never have a job, right that you should never do 474 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: anything again, the people that greenlit this shit, it's just 475 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: it's like the it's the hyperbole of it all that 476 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: takes over and now we're not having a conversation about 477 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: it anymore. We're having a conversation on who can be 478 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: the most outrage Yes. 479 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: And it's also when people talk about council counsel culture, 480 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 3: this is a result of counsel culture. 481 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: No, they don't give people counseled, but this is. 482 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: A result of that collective group of people getting together 483 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: this right here, them constantly coming out and constantly complaining. 484 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: And the thing is, there's a difference between complaining and critiques. 485 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: Those are very, very two different things. 486 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: But a lot of times they get all mixed together 487 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: because a lot of people look at. 488 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Them all as a negative thing. 489 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: They're not always negative, but sometimes it's not the art itself. 490 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: It's a you problem and people don't want to miss. 491 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a meat problem because there's certain artists and 492 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: art I go, oh, I don't like this shit, Okay, 493 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: I opt to stop watching. I don't care what the 494 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: fuck it is. I'm not watching that no more. And 495 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: because I think I'm different, because I don't give a 496 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: fuck if I ain't watched it, it's a lot of shit. 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: I ain't watched the that's the best shit. 498 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: If I don't give a fuck, I'm not watching it 499 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: and I don't care. Right, And like I said, I 500 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't be saying this first of all, if it was 501 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: regular people, i'd say it too. But I'm not just 502 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: talking about regular people. IM talking about industry people, talking 503 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: about people that review shows. I'm talking about black people 504 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: that get paid by white publications to talk about black 505 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: and it's just collective like we don't want this. It's 506 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: like who is we? 507 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: Who is we? 508 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: These people shouldn't work. What are you talking about? Yes? 509 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: Like even if even if you as a writer. Let's 510 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: say you wrote some review I disagree with. I've never 511 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: come on this show and been like, the people that 512 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: write these pieces shouldn't have jobs. I'm like, no, that's 513 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: their black opinion. No it's not necessarily mine. 514 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: But this is a doctor. 515 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: This is a whole economy, this is a whole society. Right. 516 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: We have different people from different areas with different opinions. 517 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: The movie Universe is that way too, the studios that 518 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: way too. And this isn't right, this isn't before, this 519 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: isn't nineteen eighty five. There's too many black people doing 520 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: too much work for us to say some people shouldn't 521 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: work as far as like, because that's all we get, 522 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: that's not true. Just accept the truth. You don't like 523 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: a certain type of shit, some black people do like that, 524 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: hitting like spell it out for me. I want to 525 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: see the fucked up shit. Some people like that. But 526 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: it's just we just like the pretend in this situation. 527 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Those people either don't exist or don't matter, And I'm like, nah, 528 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: you're not blacker than them or any of this shit. 529 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: It's just they like something different than you. 530 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: Like Yeah, because that's literally when it comes to black 531 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: people that's literally an auditce for everything. It's just because 532 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: you don't like it does not mean it should not exist. 533 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: And another prime example of this is Misha Green when 534 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: she made Underground. So many people have so much shit 535 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: to say about that goddamn show. So many people wouldn't 536 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: watch it. It were protests and everything. And now she make 537 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: Lovecraft Country. She the best things this motherfucker slice bread. 538 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: Y'all have to let people do their thing and do 539 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: their work. 540 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing too. A lot of this 541 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: stuff is growing for them. So you know the reason 542 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: I would never say they can't they shouldn't work again, 543 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: it's because I'm like. 544 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: This could be the lesson. You know, this could be 545 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: all right. 546 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: This is what I set out to do, some people 547 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: didn't like it, to figure a way out, to tweak 548 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: these things and to do better next time. Not one 549 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: and done, because then what happens is we go ten 550 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: years later, we go while CATSI Gleman's ain't not got 551 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: no more movies, and it's like, because it was one 552 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: and done, it was you do a thing. If it's 553 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: not motherfucking making a hundred million dollars at the box office, 554 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: it's fuck you you failed, and it's like, nah, it 555 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: should be room for black people to get better, to 556 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: grow what you know. It's like if someone took the 557 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: first episode of your podcast was like I didn't like it, 558 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be allowed to podcast or whatever. It's like, 559 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: that's stupid, Like, yes, allow people to do that thing. 560 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: It's not hurting anybody. That is anybody else's opportunity within 561 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the game at this point. 562 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and allow people to grow as an artist in 563 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: their work and things like that. And you know, a 564 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: lot of times mixed up in the critiques and the 565 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: complaining is people that are hating too. They get kind 566 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 3: of mixed up in that there. You know a lot 567 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: of people hate and complain on certain people in the 568 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: industry and things like that because they go I want 569 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: what you have, or I could have done better what 570 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: you have or why did you get the position and 571 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: I didn't, or whatever whatever the case may be. And 572 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: they hide it until I'm just critiquing, and they hide 573 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: it until I'm just you know, I'm just trying to 574 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: tell you to do it better. When sometimes it's just 575 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: a personal it's just you. It has nothing to do 576 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: with them or anything like that. It's something internally within 577 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: you that makes you feel like you have to lash 578 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: out at this particular person, the people in the industry, 579 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: or whatever it is because you're trying to break in 580 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: or you attempted to break. 581 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: In and it didn't work out the way you thought 582 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: it should work out. So instead of. 583 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: You rearranging, reorganizing and trying again, is fuck them, fuck 584 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: this industry. It becomes a very negative thing, you know, 585 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: for the people. The amount of energy that you put 586 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: into that you could actually be creating and building your 587 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: craft and getting better at what you do. 588 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like the goalpost moves so fast, 589 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: and it's often just because at the end of the 590 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: day you didn't like a specific you know, person or 591 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: a specific. 592 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: Thing, and then you. 593 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Have to start going back to get all the big words. 594 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: They're like these are the new rules, and it's like, 595 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: are these the new rules for real? This is this 596 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: is why you didn't like it? Or is it or 597 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: is it something else? Because you know I just saw 598 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: so in the chat, say well, some people had to 599 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: follow that some of the episodes were directed by not 600 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: black people, you mean, like Lovecraft Country, Like just these 601 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: aren't these aren't rules. These aren't catch alls. It's okay 602 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: to just not like some shit. It just didn't hit 603 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: the way you thought it was. It. It doesn't mean 604 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: nobody gets to work again, doesn't mean it's these people 605 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: hate you and hate black people. It doesn't they it 606 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: was a swing and a miss for you. Boom, that's it. 607 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not. I just think once we start conflating 608 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: to these much bigger issues than any one person or 609 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: one piece of media can contain, it just turns into 610 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: something ugly, like it did on social media. 611 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also before I guess before we move on whatever, 612 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people that complain I was talking about 613 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: how they want to make it into the industry. I've 614 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: seen it with my own eyes when people complain theirselves 615 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: into the industry, get into the industry, and then all 616 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: of a sudden, their attitude in the way that they 617 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: view the complaints change all of a sudden, you know, 618 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: the things that they were saying, that shit hit home 619 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: to them because now it's their art. 620 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Now it's their work, Now it's their baby. 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: Now they're putting their shit out in the world for 622 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: the world to consume and do whatever they feel like it. 623 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Also, also they see how hard it is to get 624 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: something done. And it's not just you walk in with 625 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: a vision and then they just make give you a 626 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: bunch of money in a camera, Like you know how 627 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: much stuff has to get pass writers room, studio, lawyers, 628 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: the art style, all this stuff, the money. Who can 629 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: you afford to get? What happens once somebody doesn't do 630 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: a good job, you know, So you need a program 631 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: to bring a lot of these people up. You know, 632 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: what Aviadverne does is not easy, Like what she kind 633 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: of brings people up through a system and highlights them 634 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: and they get better and then they go off to 635 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: other places. Like it's just not as simple as people think, 636 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: even you know, as much as people hate them. Tyler 637 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: Perry does a lot of this type of shit. So 638 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just it's not a simple game. It's a rig 639 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: system already. And I think it doesn't help to knock 640 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: people that got in the door with you should never 641 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: work again as opposed to like I said, I did 642 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: not like it. I think it's a subtle difference, but 643 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: I think it matters a lot, and I think people 644 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: just kind of and like I said, I think social 645 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: media is just a bad environment because obviously, if I 646 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: came out and said that on social media, it wouldn't 647 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: hit the same as if I said this show traumatized 648 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: me and these people deserve to be fired. Everyone retweets that. 649 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: But if I say I didn't like this shit and 650 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: I thought it could have been done better, you know, 651 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I'll check out their next project and help. It's better 652 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: that no one's gonna retweet that because no one gives 653 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: a fuck. That's just that's too reasonable. 654 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: Right And also for me, what I've learned over the years, 655 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: and most black people know this, but you know when 656 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: it comes online that don't care. All it takes is 657 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: one of us to get into the room. 658 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: And we hold the door open for other people. 659 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: So if black people knock black people off the pedestal 660 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: to get into the room that they need to get 661 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: into to get to the money, to get to the 662 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: access to get the money to finance their pet projects. 663 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: White people do this all the time, finance their pet project. 664 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 3: Shouldn't they been wanting to do forever, you know, like 665 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: we're complain people out of the opportunity to help other 666 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: black people, you know, like you know, it's one of 667 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: those things where we've seen it before. We black people 668 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: getting all of a sudden, they go, oh, I'm going 669 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: to have a project where I'm gonna take a few 670 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: million dollars and I'm going to set it to the 671 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: side and produce my own studio for HBCUs. Gonna put 672 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: my money to the side and invest in black That 673 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: does not happen unless they're allowed to get into these 674 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: rooms and make this money. 675 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the idea that just it would happen anyway 676 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: as such bullshit because a lot of these people that 677 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: we know his household names got a chance because some 678 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: black person is the one who really put them on. 679 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: You know. It's like when people target Kenya Barras, which 680 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: I think is very unfair in a lot of cases, 681 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: but when they target him, they also never want to 682 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: credit him for like Yar Shahidi is literally that household 683 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: name because the platform that he saw that she deserved, 684 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: like she earned it and he gave it to her. 685 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Like some white people probably just go yeah that people 686 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: like the daughter on my sitcom, No, she's not getting 687 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: her own show, Why the fuck would I do that? 688 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: That's you know, and she's super woke and smart and 689 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: all this shit. But even go ahead, I'm sorry, I. 690 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: Think Lawrence Fitzburn and. 691 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: His wife to play the woman to place his wife. 692 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: They're getting down spin off show Jennifer Lewis, Yes, but yeah, 693 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: but also Marci Martin, Yes, young moguling to make it. 694 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: That's that. But but see this is the ship. They 695 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: don't count, right, They only count that I didn't like 696 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: that his show had too many light skinned people onto 697 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: some ship or you know, it's like they never count 698 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: the impact on the industry and on the lives that 699 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: he's changing through that, through that lens. You know, even 700 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: tapping into Tracy Ellis Ross to the point where she's 701 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: winning Emmy's almost you know every other year, so and 702 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: and you know, helming her own show she's producing and 703 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: ship like this is this is the game behind the game. 704 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: People don't see when all they when all they when 705 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: all they just tune in for and be like I 706 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: didn't like it they talked about racism or I thought 707 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: it was corner or some ships. It's a bigger game 708 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: at play. So like I said, man, this is not 709 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: just about them. It's just this attitude of like I 710 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: didn't like a thing, it's didn't exist because as a 711 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: black person, I get to say I'm the authority on 712 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: all black things. It's like, nah, you know, I know 713 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: people that I respect, that I think are pretty cool, 714 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: that enjoyed Quinn Islam. 715 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: I didn't like that shit, honestly. It just it wasn't 716 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: for me. 717 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not like, well, I hope I hope this. 718 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: These niggas are somehow less black than me, and they 719 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: this ship shouldn't even exist. 720 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: It's like, this ship just ain't for me. 721 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: When she come out with Part two or whatever, the fuck, 722 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: guess who won't be in the theater, your boy. And 723 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: that's it. That's as far as it needs to go. 724 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't no petition, no Facebook group, We're not marching 725 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: in the streets. That was it, all right, Other things 726 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: are happening, all right. I don't. I think we might 727 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: have mentioned in passing, but you know, obviously DMX passed. 728 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: Uh this uh I think this weekend. Yeah, it was 729 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of like he was a hospitalized for a 730 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: week and coma to coma vegeta state, and a people 731 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: were expected, Like there was people that announced him dead 732 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: before he was dead, and the people got mad at 733 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: those people. But some of those people were like friends 734 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: and family that were that probably knew more than we 735 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: knew at the time and then but yeah, he passed, 736 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was just sad. I saw 737 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people just having like a lot of 738 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: positive stories and affirming things that real life experiences they 739 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: had with him. You know, death is always super complicated 740 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: with social media now because every person has done or 741 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: said some shit, And if a rapper that came up 742 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: in the nineties in two thousands definitely has said and 743 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: done some shit period. So yeah, I'm not here to 744 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: tell people how to feel about it because it's really 745 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: just not my you know, not my table. But you know, 746 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: it was nice seeing how many stories people had with 747 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: him and face the face, because I think rap is 748 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of like comedy, where people are a character sometimes 749 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: and the shit they're saying and all the moving goalpost 750 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: to societal evolution and what's cool to say in the 751 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: nineties and not cool to say in the two thousands, 752 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: and not cool to say in two thousand and ten, 753 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: and definitely not cool in twenty twenty one, and won't 754 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: be cool in twenty thirty. Like, it's hard for people 755 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: to grapple with that at the same time because you know, 756 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: a lot of his lyrics were homophobic, misogynistic, blah blah blah. 757 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: But I don't know what to tell you. That was 758 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: the shit, come on, and he wasn't alone in that. 759 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: And I guess every time when of these people died, 760 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go through the catalog and talk 761 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: about how you know, they wouldn't have been able to 762 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: work at a liberal academic institution as a nigga from Yonkers. 763 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: But but you know, and like I said, I'm not 764 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: trying to dismiss the conversation, but that's just part of 765 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: the cycle of death. Now is that moment? But you 766 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: know it was he seemed to be a tortured man 767 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: when it came to drugs, and it seemed like he 768 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: got introduced to drugs from a mentor when he was 769 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: like thirteen, who laced his weed with crack cocaine. So 770 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: that's just no path to be put on in life. 771 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: And at the same time, really giving dude, we met 772 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: him once. I've told the story on the show multiple times. 773 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, he told you you had a beautiful energy 774 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: or something like that. So you know, rest in peace, man. 775 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: Just fifty is is way too soon to be gone. 776 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: And it's just sad, but I'm glad people would able 777 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: to give him his flowers at the verses and all 778 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: that stuff that he did get him and snoop, Yeah, 779 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, just sad that he's gone. All right. See 780 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: what else? Oh, Chris Philip died as well, and nobody 781 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: gave not no black people. They was like, why are 782 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: we talking about this? The prince died the day DMX 783 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: like it was like, I didn't watch the Crown, so 784 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how much shade it's 785 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be thrown, but the shade was all over 786 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: the place. 787 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 3: They they both went out on the same day too. 788 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: They were spilling the Earl Gray all over this motherfucker 789 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: was kicking it over. God damn. They was, I've never 790 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: seen anything like yeah, like I and like I said, man, 791 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it's because of social media. But our shit 792 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: has become so our cultures have become so shared now 793 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: that you got people who know more or at least 794 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: we have access to the people who know more now, 795 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: and so that's who spreads more information when people die. 796 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: But I've never met a black person in real actual 797 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: life that keep up with this kind of shit until 798 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: social media, right, I've never everyday life, not one discussion 799 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: on a bus, at a table, nothing. When Princess Diana. 800 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 6: Died was like, oh, the Princess died, okay. 801 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: And then we went on about our lives. Like what 802 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: I remember about Princess Died dying was mostly like it 803 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: was around the same time as Pocket Big dying, and 804 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: like niggas was crying for Pocket Big, nobody I knew 805 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: was crying for Prince dying. 806 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: And that's no disrespect to. 807 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: That woman, but right, because it just was so far. 808 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: Removed from our world. So like Prince Philip. 809 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: Died at ninety nine, ninety nine, old people die, and 810 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: it was crazy because I was like, I bet they 811 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna blame this on Megan and Harry, and they did. 812 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 3: But but on the low before they did that, the 813 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 3: weeks they kept saying the possibility that the Prince may 814 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 3: be passing, and. 815 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: Then that was pretty good. 816 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: They went on there. 817 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 6: They gave that speech like Harry was like, I think 818 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 6: my family, my theor racists, and all of a sudden 819 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 6: it got most freaking quiet about Prince being almost on 820 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 6: deaf nigga. 821 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: Not a nine right, So I don't know shit about this, dude. 822 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: I take everybody's word for it. They say he wasn't shit, 823 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: But I also don't care, so you know, and I don't. 824 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with the love of the royal 825 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: family and shit, so it don't feel disrespectful to me. 826 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I grew up. 827 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: We grew up with a president here. 828 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: Half the time, the president is the party you hate, 829 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: So I don't even grow up with reverence of the 830 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: president in that way, you know what I mean. 831 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 3: Like if we grew up with niggas cussing cussing Reagan out. 832 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck, the president is just based on who he 833 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: is at that time. Yeah it is, you know what 834 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: I mean. So you know it ain't no, it ain't 835 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: no shade to the folks that grew up with that ship. 836 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: But our experience here is very very separate from that. 837 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: Let's see what else happened. Uh Puff Daddy called out 838 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: uh Corporate America for devaluing black owned media. If you 839 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: love us, pay us. 840 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 7: Mmider, Yeah you did? 841 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 3: You? 842 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: You sure paying black people what they were because you 843 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: love them? Did he at the Craig mac black rob 844 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: niggas does literally been mace been chasing you down for 845 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: money ever since the rights today masters and ship. 846 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 7: M. 847 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. That feels a little bit like pay me, 848 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. 849 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: It felt like the us in that joint is more 850 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: more me than us, Like it's some type of deal 851 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: he negotiating with. He like, why didn't y'all sign with me? 852 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: And then it's like and then he going, because you know, 853 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: because you're supposed to respect all the black people. It 854 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, did you do you mean 855 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: all the black people trying to sign a Vicom Huh No, 856 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean coincidentally, yes, I have a 857 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: deal with Viacom on the table. Like That's how it 858 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: felt to me. Oh man, Yeah, it was funny. On 859 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: Twitter everybody was like this you I was like, yeah, because. 860 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I stay out of that because it's one of 861 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: the things with a lot of shit have behind the 862 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 3: scenes that I know nothing about. 863 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he uh it's not a bad message, 864 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: but it's just the messenger in that case. People was like, bro, 865 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: you have a big track record an artist feeling like 866 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: you did not pay them what they was worth. You know, 867 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: so what's supposed to happen here? Twitter reacts to Usher, 868 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: who's under fire at the reports say he gave dances 869 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: fake bills with his face on it. 870 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 3: Did he give it to him? Gotta let it burn, 871 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 3: Gotta let it burn. 872 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess burning in turn a different color. 873 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: You know, it's not real. Yeah, apparently he gives out 874 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: Usher bucks. Is that like Disney buck What. 875 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 3: Are you supposed to go, babe? 876 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: Are you supposed to cash it in like a celebration stationed? 877 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 8: Hell of this? 878 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: What's funny is that Usher is one of those dudes 879 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 1: that everybody feels is underrated and doesn't get enough love. 880 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, everybody does love Usher. 881 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: But like, that's so ridiculous. I just hope it's not true. 882 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: You know, by of fact, I just googled it. 883 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: He says. It's a big misunderstanding. He says he didn't 884 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: pay him with Usher Bucks. That was money left behind. 885 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: That was a prop for a video he was doing. 886 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do use fake money when they're throwing that 887 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: shit around. I was like, I can't see them using 888 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 3: real money. 889 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe I don't know if that's but I mean, 890 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: they go get you some Usher money printed. It's pretty funny. 891 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious, right, Uh yeah, And. 892 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: You know, because when that shit floating floating in your camera, nation, 893 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 3: do you nobody paying attention to if it's Usher the. 894 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: President's Yeah, some wom in Bill Bill Love basically said 895 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: he should be put on blast for this. So she 896 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: the one that started it. 897 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you about now, if he was paying niggas 898 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 3: and Usher's bucks, we'd have been heard this bote Now. 899 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, this picture teams he uses hilarious because that like 900 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: Usher shrugging off, like I don't know what you're gonna 901 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: do with them fake Usher money. I'm sorry, they don't 902 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: take that at the gas station. I'm sorry. So it 903 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: was not League of Tenure, right, but yeah, apparently he 904 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: ended up stealing thousands of spending thousands of real dollars 905 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: with with with these strippers at Sapphire in Vegas. Now 906 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: my thing is like, we're still doing this strip club 907 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: in the pandemic. Oh yes, Like, ain't that something? Because 908 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: I know, ain't no social distance up and now I've 909 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: seen the IG videos. I follow several stripper script clubs 910 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: for research. 911 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: You know, the Panina Press ain't stopping strip club. 912 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: That's good. Uh, but yeah, so it's close to Usher teller. 913 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: Somebody and his crew, not him, left some straight usher 914 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: dollars behind on stage as a bit of a gag, 915 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: both to be joking but also to promote his new 916 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: Vegas residency. M Right, that's smart. So I guess that's 917 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: supposed I mean, I guess he Honestly, we know about 918 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: his residency now, so I didn't know actually that person 919 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: was smart. Yeah, you know, you'd like to say that 920 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: shit was stupid because of backfire, but really, if he 921 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: had just went to the strip club and spent thousands 922 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: of dollars, we would not be talking about his ass 923 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: so and now wouldn't to know he got a Vegas residency, 924 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: although it shouldn't be in the strip club in the pandemic. 925 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, not enough mask in the world. Here's 926 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: some news that I felt like I always knew. I 927 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: think some people have been in the now or maybe 928 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: they just don't care or whatever. But a stylist had 929 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: to come out and confirm it. A stylist claims Justin 930 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: Timberlake created infamous Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunctioned. Now, look, I'm 931 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: reading this from a black publication. 932 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 3: It must be true. 933 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: So well, that's what I was gonna say, I was 934 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, so the headline is a little bit misleading, okay, 935 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: because you know it is the agenda. 936 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Full of black people. 937 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: At this point, I'd say, of the blacks to turn 938 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: that whole Super Bowl into justin Timberlake ran on stage. 939 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson was performing an innocent song or she was 940 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: performing a gospel song, and he just ran up and 941 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: yanked her titties out and shook him to the world 942 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: and then said, I what, And then she got blamed 943 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: for it and he became a hero. That's that is 944 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: the black narrative. That's the agenda that is taking back. 945 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: I remember when I saw it. I remember thinking, okay, 946 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: they was both in on that, and that didn't go 947 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: the way. The reception was obviously just fuck y'all for 948 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: doing that by the Super Bowl and by NBC or 949 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: ABC or whatever anyway, or wasn't CBS, might have ben 950 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: CBS anyway. Turns out the stylists who worked on Jackson's 951 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: outfit for the event. 952 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: Finally admitted the whole thing was planned. 953 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 3: Wayne Scott Lucas hud that was the whole purpose new choreography. 954 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: I never believed the wardrobe malfunction excuse and not just 955 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: because of Justin Timberlake or it. Just like y'all wanted 956 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: to shock the world. Justin was the one that couldn't. 957 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: He just couldn't even hold he. I'm scared, I'm going 958 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: back to whiteness. I didn't know playing like this was 959 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna get me canceled. 960 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm scared. 961 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: And Janet was like left holding the bag because Janet 962 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: stuck with the lie. I still remember her being like 963 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: it was unfortunate me. I was like, now, Janet, I 964 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,959 Speaker 1: know the look of a woman that wants to show 965 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: herself the titties to everybody, and that was the look, okay, 966 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking it neither. I love that look. 967 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite looks a woman can have. 968 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: But my titty look. 969 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: You asking me to be stupid right now, and I'm 970 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: not a stupid person. So I I you wanted me 971 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: to see them titties. I wanted to see them titties. 972 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: I've been dreaming about them titties my whole fucking life. Hah. 973 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: So I'm not even mad at you. I'm sad that 974 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: these white people is mad at you. You know. I 975 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: feel like we should be able to move on from this, 976 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: but that was envant gard neudery. You was thrown out there, okay, 977 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: and then U a nudity you was thrown out there, 978 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: and of course it was some backlash, you know what 979 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: I mean. So, but Justin wasn't built like that. And 980 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, a lot of 981 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: especially black women, was kind of crushing on Justin at 982 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: that time. So I think a lot of his heat 983 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: that he caught is it's almost like worse than if no. 984 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: It's almost like if Macamore would have been on stage 985 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: and it happened, it wouldn't have been as bad as Justin, right, 986 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: or maybe not macawall. Who's somebody that don't even fuck 987 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: with black people like that? If I'm trying to think 988 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: of some white person that is just white to us, 989 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: not just white, you know, I'm talking like you know. 990 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 3: What I mean, Like somebody said kid Rock. 991 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 2: Nah, not kid Rock. 992 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: He dabble was in blackness with wrap, I mean white. 993 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: Like if it was just like fucking somebody said John Mayer. Yeah, okay, 994 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 1: if it was John Mayor who did it, the hate 995 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: would be less for John Mayer than it is for 996 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: Justin because Justin was acting like he was down and 997 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't not mad theyd like, oh you white dude. 998 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: This was his chance to be like, actually, I am down. 999 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm a ride or die for this shit. Cancel me then, 1000 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: because yeah, we said it's a wardrobe malfunction. 1001 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,479 Speaker 2: We're standing on that line. Its stay. 1002 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: He went in the less move As office, got on 1003 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: his knees and said, please, mister Moves, don't cancel me. 1004 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 9: Man. 1005 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1006 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did it. I'm sorry. And he sold 1007 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: out Janet because Jennet was sticking to the line. And 1008 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: that's what seemed to always have happened to me. But 1009 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: Wayne Scott Lucas said the whole incident was designed to 1010 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: upstage Britney Spears, Madonna and Christina Aguilera's kiss from MTV 1011 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: that took place months before, so they wanted a more 1012 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: viral moment than that, and what's more viral than Jennet 1013 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: Jackson's stunted out to it. Everybody always That's another reason 1014 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: I never believed it was fake. That nipple ring with 1015 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: the star. It was planet there. It was so beautiful, 1016 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: you know. It was the way it complimented the nipple 1017 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: and the areola. It was so perfect. And you know 1018 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: it add the dash of just sizzle and sparkle to 1019 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: everything to take it to the next level. It's like, 1020 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 1: you gonna want to see what's going on with this teddy. 1021 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: She knew what she was doing, and I appreciated it, 1022 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: and I refuse to be gas lit in having to 1023 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: think it was some type of mistake. But yeah, so 1024 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: Timberlake insisted on doing something bigger than their performance. He 1025 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: wanted to reveal the original idea was tossed around for 1026 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: timulate the step on the back of Jackson's dress to 1027 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: reveal a sex and the City inspired g string that 1028 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: was a pearl, but the outfit changed a couple of 1029 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: days before, and you saw the magic. I wouldn't call 1030 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: it a w wardrobe malfunction in a million years. It 1031 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: was the most functioning wardrobe in history as a stylist. 1032 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 2: It did what it was intended to do, he. 1033 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: Told the outlet. Yeah, so, yeah, I figured if somebody 1034 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: was gonna snitch eventually, because that was obvious to me. 1035 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: You know, you got to be in some big ass 1036 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: denial to really think all that shit was just a coincidence, Like, yeah, 1037 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: they had practiced it a thousand times before and it 1038 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: never happened. And then this one time in front of 1039 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: the world, the most hears fucking part of the Super 1040 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: Bowl just didn't work like the first you know, he 1041 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: pulled them titties out because she wanted us to see him. 1042 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful for that, I really am. I really 1043 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: wish the rest of these negroes would get in line 1044 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: and at least understand she wanted us to see them titties, like, 1045 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: we don't have to turn her into the perfect victim. Okay, 1046 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 1: I just didn't, you know. And of course they weren't 1047 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: able to cancel Janet because she's Janet. So it's not 1048 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: like Unlet's move ass turned out to be a creep. 1049 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't even know why he was mad. You've been 1050 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: trying to get women to show you they titties, unprompted 1051 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: apparently the whole time. 1052 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 3: Right doing tools and start making money. 1053 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, she outlived her career, outlived Let's move ass career. 1054 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: You did, didn't it? 1055 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: So all that shit for nothing. Carrie Hilton opens up 1056 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: about long standing Beyonce beef and the recent appearance on 1057 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,439 Speaker 1: mid Days with Persia for Baltimore's ninety two Q carry 1058 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: Hilson addressed a long standing to beef between her and Beyonce. 1059 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: Hilson reveals the two shared a healing moment and even 1060 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: was amenable to working with each other. When asked if 1061 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: she would be open and collaborating with Queen Bee, the 1062 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: Pretty Girl Rock singer responded, shirt absolutely. She actually has 1063 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: introduced herself. It was a gracious moment. I appreciated it. 1064 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: I feel like she understood what happened with a transpire 1065 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: and that was a bit of healing in that moment 1066 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: where we met. She took it a step further, acknowledging 1067 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: that the experience would probably be very fun. Hilston goes 1068 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: on to say, despite what people think, she always thought 1069 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: Beyonce was amazing. So you look confused over there. What's wrong? 1070 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,240 Speaker 1: What was the beef? Didn't know they had a problem. See, 1071 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: this is what's funny about this. I've been knew that 1072 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: they had some shit because I've seen people pitting her 1073 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: against Beyonce and then blaming it all on colorism, like 1074 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: you know the reason y'all do this, that and the other, 1075 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, Carrie Hilson started some shit. She 1076 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: bit off more than she could chill beyond and it 1077 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: seemed to be unprompted. It didn't seem like it was 1078 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: some shit Beyonce did first, and then Carry Hilson did 1079 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: this shit and she's gone into it. So back in 1080 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, there was an unreleased remix to 1081 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: Heilson's hit single Turning Me On. It leaked, but in 1082 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: that record she accused She's accused of sub and Beyonce 1083 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: when she recently confirmed on Out Loud with Claudia Jordan, 1084 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: so it's not speculation anymore. She confirmed, Yes, I was 1085 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: shitting on Beyonce for no fucking reason. The reason that 1086 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: they wanted her to do it was she didn't even 1087 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: write the lyrics, but they wanted her to start it 1088 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: beef for Beyonce because they thought it would be good 1089 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: for her career. Why right, Because that industry, hip hop 1090 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: industry specifically, but that hip hop R and B shit, 1091 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: it's always like, at least it used to be. It's 1092 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: not as bad now, but it used to be. We 1093 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: can't just have a woman doing good. We need another 1094 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 1: woman to come in and be like, fuck that bitch 1095 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: and then and then we'll play off for the rivalry 1096 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: come from it. 1097 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 3: It's somewhat of a generational change. You still have people 1098 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 3: to beef, but it's somewhat of a generational change. I'm 1099 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 3: making my money, you're making your money. Girl, ain't gonna 1100 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 3: problem with Junior, ain't gonna problem me. 1101 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: We could both be here. Yeah. I feel like it's 1102 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: now that people are taking a little bit more, a 1103 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: little bit more accountability and responsibility and having autonomy for 1104 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: their careers, and especially because of social media, because I 1105 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: don't know that contractually has changed that much, because a 1106 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: lot of these women are still signing to the labels 1107 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: that are run by men, but social media being able 1108 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: to go directly to your audience, it seems like to 1109 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: a large extent, a lot of the petty like it 1110 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: has to be. It can only be one black woman 1111 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: Highland a rapper. It's starting to die down. And you've 1112 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: seen a lot of these girls work together, which I 1113 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: love me too, because it used to kind of be 1114 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: like that. It's not that everyone got along and everyone 1115 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: liked each other, but there was a time when you 1116 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: had an EMC like Queen Latifa, Salt and pepper Nikki 1117 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: why can't I think of her last name, But you 1118 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of women rapping at the same time, 1119 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: yo yo, queen, what's my girl? That made? 1120 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 6: Uh? 1121 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was so many I'm forgetting names, 1122 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: that's how many it was. 1123 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 2: And it was calm. 1124 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, of course, and if they get 1125 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: together on I want to be down remixed. We don't 1126 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: expect somebody to be on there like fuck this other girl. 1127 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: Like it was just kind of the thing. And then 1128 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: I want to say it was around you know, I 1129 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: would say it's probably around Little Cam Foxy Brown that 1130 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: it for me. Anyway, maybe I'm missing some people what 1131 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: it specifically was like there can only be one. 1132 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: It's like all of a sudden, weed clown heard a 1133 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 3: queen and there can't be another one. 1134 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's but to. 1135 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 3: The point where a lot of that is almost like 1136 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: phasing out, and I hope it stays gone, like because 1137 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 3: you I feel like you can have multiple rappers. You 1138 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 3: can have a Cardi B and a Nikki and a Megan, 1139 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 3: a Stallion and somebody who else a Rhapsody and like 1140 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 3: all these people that rap different types of ways, where 1141 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 3: now you can't keep up with them because the thing 1142 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 3: is it's so much to consuming. 1143 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 1: They all have their own targeted audience. Yeah, and It's 1144 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: like that's how it's been for men a long time. 1145 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: So like flow Millie can make a song like that bitch, 1146 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: and like Sweedy doesn't need to make a disc song 1147 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: because because yeah, every dude, because every dude when I 1148 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: was coming up was rapping about how they the man 1149 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: and fuck all these other niggas. And you see them 1150 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: collabing with some other dudes, Like why because of course 1151 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: we coulllab because I'm not talking about you. I'm just 1152 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: up here talking my shit. 1153 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Ye and I would, but but women bitches be fighting 1154 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 3: like we we just got to be at each other's 1155 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 3: throat when nah, Like I like rap too and not 1156 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 3: rapping about my shit, and I think too, and not 1157 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: to get off topic, That's why a lot of times, 1158 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people talk about women rappers now because 1159 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 3: they have the freedom and the autonomy to rap about 1160 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 3: shit that ain't focused and sow their around men and 1161 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 3: their dicks. 1162 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I just think men were never really heavy into listening 1163 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: to women like that. Correct in the first place. A 1164 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of men have never really had a repertoire of 1165 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: like women them seas, and so they cheap tuming. It's 1166 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: like white people when they don't fuck with some black shit. 1167 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: They gotta come up with all these excuses like that's 1168 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,439 Speaker 1: what as supposed to just being like I don't really 1169 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: listen to women's music period. I don't see it that way, 1170 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and I just don't listen to it, because then you 1171 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: have to accept that as this is what I'm saying, 1172 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: these are my actions, I'm taking responsibility. Instead has to 1173 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: be the women's fault. So it's got to be these 1174 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: women ain't good at rapping. 1175 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 1176 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 1177 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Well, and by the way, same thing happens when people 1178 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 2: talk about why they. 1179 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Don't listen to new music. It's the same shit. It's 1180 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: gotta be some type of fucking it's a bigger reason, 1181 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's not me. It's like, you just don't want 1182 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: to do it. 1183 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you just want to put the effort into it, 1184 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: and that's fine, just admit the promise you and not 1185 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: the music itself. Because there's always good music out there. 1186 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 3: The option is do you want to go find it 1187 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 3: or not? 1188 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Somebody making some good music all the time. All right, 1189 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 2: let's get. 1190 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Into some segments. Okay, that was just some random talking 1191 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: and shit. I'll definitely cover coronavirus and politics tomorrow for sure. 1192 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Even though we kind of talked about a lot of 1193 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: black ship, I'm gonna do some motherfucking with black people. 1194 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 9: Who who whoooooooo just fucking with them people because they 1195 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 9: ain't bawn there fucking with new people because they're black 1196 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 9: with just hoop fucking with them black people were just fucking. 1197 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Look them back. Just who fucking fucking black people. 1198 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 9: Woo hoo. 1199 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, fucking with black people. 1200 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: We go out around the globe, find different artists, make 1201 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: us feel fuck with a sound points of course, zero 1202 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,959 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five for how much we feel 1203 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: fucked with them. Wist we uh, you know, then we 1204 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: just let you know, okay, and you can get zero 1205 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: to one hundred or cards. All right. Oh, I forgot 1206 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: to say, we got the second shot. We alive. And 1207 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of has been made 1208 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: about like the second shot gonna kill you or some shit, 1209 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: or it's gonna really make you sick. 1210 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad for me. 1211 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: My mom just sore. Yeah, my arms not even sore anymore. 1212 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: But I did toss and turn a little bit in 1213 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: my sleep Saturday Saturday night because we got a Saturday morning, 1214 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: and honestly, by the time I woke up, I was straight. 1215 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a headache Sunday, and 1216 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I but I'm not sure if that could have been 1217 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: just a lack of sleep, because I didn't sleep much 1218 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: Friday night because I was like, we gotta get up early. 1219 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: In my head when I get anxiety about that kind. 1220 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Of shit, I'm like, I gotta get up early. Want 1221 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 2: to make sure I get this shot. 1222 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're we're supposed to 1223 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: be at the right time. And I'm you know, calculating 1224 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: all the variables, like you know, we're not. This isn't 1225 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the drive up anymore. This is now a walking you 1226 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: know all that type of stuff. 1227 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 2: Do I have all my pay So I didn't sleep. 1228 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: A lot, And then the next night I didn't sleep 1229 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: that much because we had a noon episode with a guest. 1230 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Anytime on Sunday that we have an early episode with 1231 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: a guest, in my head, I'm still working. So I 1232 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: didn't sleep a lot, and then I got a little 1233 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: bit of a headache Sunday afternoon. But like I said, 1234 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: could have been like asleep, because it wasn't some migraine 1235 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: or like the debilitating headache or anything. I took two 1236 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: avil I feel fine and that's it. What about you, 1237 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: What was your experience? I was fine. 1238 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 3: Like I said, my arm is just sore. It's not 1239 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 3: as sore as it was Saturday and Sunday and I 1240 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 3: think it was last night. It was really just stiff 1241 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 3: and sore, and I was trying not to I lay 1242 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 3: on my left side, So I think the first shot 1243 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 3: wasn't that bad because I wasn't laying on the side 1244 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 3: of the shot. But this time I have a habit 1245 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: of just was just laying on the side of the shot. 1246 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 3: So it's almost like I had to return my body 1247 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 3: around just not put that pressure on that arm, which 1248 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 3: I think was irritating it and making it stiff. Other 1249 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 3: than that, I feel fine. Didn't really have any major 1250 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 3: side effects in anything. Like I said, this one was different. 1251 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: This one was a walk up and not a drive through. 1252 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: We was in and out in an hour. Yeah, it 1253 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: was even went the line. 1254 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 3: It was so much quicker and we got there like 1255 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes early and stuff like that. And it was 1256 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 3: really it was very organized, like everything was together, everything 1257 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 3: was organized. They had people moving in and out like 1258 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 3: it was not a loan process at all. 1259 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: All right, So two weeks from now, we should be 1260 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: at the orgy, so we'll see something. Nobody's orgy, all right, 1261 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: here she go. Well i'll see some of y'all out there. 1262 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 3: Just make. 1263 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Wear your mask because you still want to protect each other. 1264 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: But I'm back, baby, I'm back. 1265 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 8: In the game. 1266 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 3: You ain't going to nobody's orgy. 1267 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm back in the game. 1268 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay, No know you not. Okay, Chocolate Earthquake is back latest, Okay, 1269 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and it's time. It's time. 1270 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Well tell chocolate covered strawberries better beat it. 1271 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I got a full year worth of seeming built up 1272 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: and I'm ready to share it with the world. Okay, nope, 1273 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: So we'll see you out there. 1274 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, but I'm canceling 1275 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 3: in that bitch. 1276 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: Look for me at a at the buffet. I'm gonna 1277 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: be out there bringing bruise. No buffet at no at 1278 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the orgy. You know, we had a buffet line at 1279 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: the organ. So I'm gonna be there, you know, and 1280 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: ready to let the ladies. 1281 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Know what's up. 1282 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: Okay, it's we're back in the game, y'all. Okay, the 1283 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: party party. The party is back on. Okay, check out 1284 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: private society dot com. You see your boys search for me? 1285 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: Chocolate earthquake, Cheryl Underwood Experience PTSD after Sharon Osborne fight 1286 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: on the Top. No share, Karen, Please, you're talking over 1287 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: the show. We're trying to get to the next article. 1288 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 3: Oh but I'm I'm I'm the one interrupting the show 1289 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 3: with I'm trying to you talking about orges. 1290 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do a show. 1291 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Care now, we want to be professional. I am being professional, 1292 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to do a show, and you refuse to let 1293 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: me move on. Okay, Oh okay. 1294 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 3: So when we were talking about banana splinting them, it was 1295 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 3: all good, right. 1296 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what banana splitting is, but sure. Oh 1297 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: oh you caught yourself chuckolate earthquake. 1298 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm assuming the women gonna have food names too. 1299 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Cheryl Underwood. This is why I don't go this, 1300 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 1: why I don't let you go to the Orges with me. 1301 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, not to bring me too much. 1302 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Of a square. Cheryl Underwood Experience Deal Cheryl Underwood Experience 1303 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: PTSD after Sharon Osborne fight on the Talk. Cheryl Underwood 1304 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: says she experienced PTSD following her on air fight with 1305 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: Sharon Osborne on The Talk. She revealed Monday on the 1306 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 1: show's first episode, it's nearly month long hiatus, A month 1307 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: long of fire racst boy ain't being white? 1308 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 3: Great, Oh motherfucking month and she got ten million dollars 1309 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 3: just a bit like beaty bitch. 1310 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 2: Everybody had to take a break. 1311 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Cause a whole lot to educate you, didn't it. I 1312 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: feel like I been in like PTSD because I was. 1313 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: It was It was a trauma, and I feel like 1314 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I went to get I want to get past it 1315 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: because I really wanted to get back to work my 1316 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: friends and my colleagues and the crew. But I also 1317 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: wanted to get back to the audience. She said she 1318 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: feared being seen as the angry black woman and tried 1319 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: to remain calm during her head exchange with Osborne or 1320 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 1: Osborne claimed she was being branded as racist for defending 1321 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: close friends Pierce Morgan. Yeah, and you could tell, and 1322 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: you could feel it. And that's why I didn't judge 1323 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 1: her so harshly like so many people did, because I 1324 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 1: think a lot of people we get angry on your 1325 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: behalf and then we want you to act out our anger. 1326 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is many of us 1327 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,919 Speaker 1: have been in situations like that, especially your work, where 1328 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: you are walking that line at double consciousness of I'm 1329 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: being disrespected. I want to react in kind, but I 1330 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: also know my reaction will not be treated with the 1331 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: same fairness that it deserves. It'll just be you angry 1332 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: black women, You're fired, or why you you made this happen? 1333 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: Look how mad you got when she's just all she 1334 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: said was she's not racist, and you went off the handle. 1335 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: So that thing I underwent says she feared being saying 1336 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: as aggry black woman. I didn't want to escalate things 1337 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,799 Speaker 1: with Sharon because I thought I was having a conversation 1338 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 1: with a friend. But I also knew I had to 1339 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: be an example for others to follow because I didn't 1340 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: want to be perceived as angry black woman, and that 1341 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 1: really scared me. I didn't want to be that, and 1342 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to remain calm and rain focused. And it's 1343 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: difficult to go back to that day because I just 1344 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,480 Speaker 1: feel the trauma. I feel fearful and apprehensive. 1345 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you cameras recording like it's stressedl enough to 1346 01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 3: do a show just when everything functioned perfectly and he 1347 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 3: was just off the rail shit and you could sit 1348 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 3: on her face. 1349 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like it shocked her system. So I understand, right, 1350 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Sharon will And then I love this from her insider. 1351 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Sharon will talk when she's ready. She still wants to 1352 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: give her side of the story. She has been on 1353 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: the show for eleven years and knows all the secrets. 1354 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: And I remember me and Randolph Terrence talked about this 1355 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: clip on Three Guys on and you know, I was 1356 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: very partial to Cheryl and the situation she was going in, 1357 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to float out this theory that 1358 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 1: I had because this job is being nice. 1359 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 2: That's what the job is. 1360 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 3: Stay paid the job. 1361 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 1: The job is showing up, making people fit, even if 1362 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: you talk about heavy, complicated things, making people feel warm 1363 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: towards you and warn towards your show. That's the job. 1364 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,839 Speaker 1: It's a muscle. People don't respect it. They think it's easy. 1365 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: It's very fucking difficult, especially in this country. You know. 1366 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 2: So this is the same because. 1367 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 3: Meghan McCain, not Meghan McCain, the Fox woman that didn't 1368 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 3: took to terror. 1369 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 2: Meg Meghan. 1370 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Make America great again. 1371 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about Kelly. 1372 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 1: Yes, so made it terrible. She was terrible. 1373 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 2: It's hard to do. 1374 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 1: And of course you saw the woman that she got 1375 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 1: off of there is back on the air with her 1376 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 1: own show, so you know, Tammer and Hall got her 1377 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: own show now. So it's just a very difficult thing 1378 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: to do. Anyway, my point being, I was like, because 1379 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, she's like, that's my friend, blah blah blah, 1380 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and how can you say that about your friend is racist? Then? 1381 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, or she knows how it's going 1382 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to be perceived. She knows that she doesn't want to 1383 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: look like I'm getting this white woman fired from her job. 1384 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: But I do want this white woman fired from her job. 1385 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: So behind the scenes, I'm not coming to work until 1386 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: she's gone. Behind the scenes. Every leak that you see 1387 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: got my fingerprints on it, because I'm making sure every 1388 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: negative thing she's ever done is leaking to the press. 1389 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Like we're moving out. At one point, she said that 1390 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: she hadn't heard anything from Sharon Osborne. On her podcast, 1391 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Sharon Osborne showed the shared screenshots of text she has 1392 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: sent Cheryl. Who do I believe, If I'm being real, 1393 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: I believe Sharon Osbourne. She probably did send them text, 1394 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: but Cheryl knew not the answer that shit, Yes, that 1395 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 1: woman gotta go with no response. Yeah, because then I 1396 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 1: could be like, well, I ain't see it, or you know, 1397 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: I must not have got them something, just our old 1398 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:53,600 Speaker 1: number point being you need to go. And so to me, 1399 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm like this little finger chaos is a ladder, and 1400 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: I love what Cheryl did, and. 1401 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 2: I prefer to give Cheryl the motherfucking benefited. 1402 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: A doubt as a crafty, savvy move to get a 1403 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: racist out the paint, because why do I need to think? 1404 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 1: If I have a choice to do either think less 1405 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: of this woman or think more, why would I immediately 1406 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: pick less? Now, look, I don't know Cheryl like that. 1407 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: She might be whacked as fuck. Someone told me she's 1408 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: a Republican or some shit, so maybe she really is, 1409 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, not cool or whatever. But I actually I 1410 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know that. I've never seen anybody talk about that, 1411 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,759 Speaker 1: so I'll just leave it at I preferred my version 1412 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: where she manipulated the hand without touching it. You know, 1413 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 1: I love that anyway, zero T one hundred oh oh zero, 1414 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm not bothered. Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I mean I 1415 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: guess twenty five because that PTSD thing is real confrontation 1416 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: with a racist person at your job. It can fuck 1417 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 1: with you. It really makes you doubt yourself, feel like, 1418 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: what did I do to? Am I gonna lose my job? 1419 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Do people see this fairly? They do? They understand what 1420 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 1: happened and just the fact that they had to take 1421 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,520 Speaker 1: a month off for this, basically to assuage the racist feelings. 1422 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Whack All right, let's see cops arrest a black man 1423 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: for taking out his garbage while looking for a white suspect. Oh, 1424 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 1: taking out the garbage Againboddy, you fit the description. Though. 1425 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Police arrested a black man outside of Hollywood home because 1426 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: he was probably probably in quotes, a domestic violence suspect, 1427 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 1: even though he repeatedly told officers they had the wrong guy. 1428 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 1: May nineteen exchange got on body camera footage? What is 1429 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: this article coming out April seven, twenty one? If you 1430 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: if you, if you like to know body camera footage 1431 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: from May twenty nineteen, though, okay, that's how we do. 1432 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: That was. 1433 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 3: Before the pandemic, So yeah. 1434 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 1: The Los Angeles police responded to a domestic violence call 1435 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 1: confronting Antoine or Austin while he was taken out his garbage. 1436 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: They had no physical description of the suspect, so they 1437 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: approached him. He's a music producer known professionally as Tone Stacks, because, 1438 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: as one cop said in the footage, I don't know 1439 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 1: who I'm looking for yet, so might as well be 1440 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 1: a black guy. I don't have a description, and my 1441 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: description is black. Now, the cops have been accused of 1442 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: racial profiling the civil lawsuit of the encounter. It is 1443 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 1: racial profile and they had no description of the suspect, 1444 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 1: completely blank slate, said the attorney for Austin. They literally 1445 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 1: saw the first black man and they arrested him. 1446 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,600 Speaker 2: This literally could have been any nigga. 1447 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: Right literally wrong place from time, bully shit. Austin's name 1448 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Red called now when one about her ex boyfriends spurning 1449 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 1: the police to response to actual suspect. The white man 1450 01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,719 Speaker 1: escaped during Austin's arrest, just walking to suspect right past 1451 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: him with a mustache on, telling it in some glasses, 1452 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: good day evening, officers. 1453 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Do you need help? 1454 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Office right, get them, get them fellas blue lives matter 1455 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 1: to me and walk his way on up the street. Yo, 1456 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: you're looking for the people upstairs, bro, Austin told the 1457 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: officers at one point. According to body camera footage, throughout 1458 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: the conversation, Austin could be heard repeatedly telling them they 1459 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: had the wrong person. The college who made the initial 1460 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: complaint also allegedly told the cops he wasn't the pre perpetrator. 1461 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Officers themselves weren't entirely confident Austin was the man in question, 1462 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 1: with one officer responding probably when asked by a colleague 1463 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: whether Austin might be the dude, so even they didn't know. 1464 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 1: Cops tried to handcuff Austin shortly after the exchange about 1465 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 1: whether he was the right suspect, putting him up against 1466 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:49,679 Speaker 1: the wallace. He screened for help. 1467 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 2: What does your problem do? 1468 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 1: When officer asked, because you know how you can just 1469 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: randomly handcuff a guy going out to his garbage and 1470 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 1: he's not supposed to have a problem with it, right, 1471 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure these officers would be just as kind if 1472 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: it happened to them. Oh, I understand, do what you 1473 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: gotta do, officer. Cops tried Austin's girlfriend, Michelle Mickelwick's came 1474 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: to his aid and tried to intervene while wearing a 1475 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: bathrobe that at times came undone, leaving her naked before 1476 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 1: the officer. She demanded to know what was happening, and 1477 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: while the officer was detaining him, she was later pushed 1478 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 1: to the ground. She can be her screaming you had 1479 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,679 Speaker 1: the wrong guy in the body camera footage. 1480 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 2: Both Austin and Mickawits were eventually arrested. 1481 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 1: Both of them. Austin was taking in the custody on 1482 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 1: charges of failing you, resistant arrest and assault on the 1483 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: police officer, which they later dropped. The charges, right, and 1484 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,839 Speaker 1: they always say assault on the police officer. They always 1485 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 1: say that even if they initiated, right, just as long 1486 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 1: as you just go hey, man, I didn't do anything. Also, Oh, 1487 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Mickawits was also charged of taking to jail when the 1488 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: two waring custody officers allegedly laugh reviewing body camera footage 1489 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 1: from the incident, which shows Mickelwit's naked body. According to 1490 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: the lawsuit, they were later able to post bail while 1491 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 1: you the person has been prosecute that the charges still 1492 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 1: haven't been dropped. Oh, they haven't been dropped yet, lapd Baby. 1493 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 1: When different officers returned to the neighborhood about a week 1494 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: after the incident. To respond to the woman calling enforce 1495 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: a restraining order against the white man, cops treated Austin 1496 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: more professionally. He told the News. The Los Angeles City 1497 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 1: Attorney Office has sought to keep the body camera footage 1498 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: from the initial incident private. Argument would interfere with officers 1499 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: expectation of privacy. Yep, you cars, you'll got them job. 1500 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 10: Your job is I pay for you to do your 1501 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 10: fucking job. I pay for you to do your job. 1502 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 10: Your job, you have batter cameras. My tax money pay 1503 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,839 Speaker 10: for that to be public. 1504 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck. 1505 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,680 Speaker 1: If you don't want people to know who you are, 1506 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: don't do the job. And noine neighbors know too, because 1507 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: ris both the cops and their families. Uh, this was 1508 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: the reason why they shouldn't share it, but a federal 1509 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: magistrate ordered that it be made public last week. Austin 1510 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: attorneys and the Los Angeles Police Department did not immediately 1511 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: respond to Vice News requests. Will comment, Uh, yeah, I 1512 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 1: give it to your cards as well. Yeah, it's funny 1513 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,919 Speaker 1: how they don't got to respect your right to privacy. 1514 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: It's for the officer's right to privacy and safety. Well, 1515 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: what do you what do you have to feel be 1516 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: safe from? M hmm, Like you know what I'm saying. 1517 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: You're a public officer, protect and serve. What do you 1518 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: have to be safe from? What about this incident would 1519 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: endanger you? Cause I think if you're endangering some black 1520 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 1: man's life by arresting him and his girlfriend for no 1521 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 1: fucking reason, that is public record and should be known. 1522 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 1: We shouldn't know which officers. 1523 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 3: Did that, right, you know? 1524 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 1: And it seems like a lot of this shit doesn't 1525 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: even have discipline until something like this happens. And now 1526 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 1: that the video goes viold, then it's like, oh god, okay, 1527 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: well all right, we'll go ahead and start investigating what 1528 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 1: it's been two years. 1529 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 3: Right, And not to get all tired of, but a 1530 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 3: lot of buils down to some of the stuff. Mean 1531 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 3: you've been talking about out about how when you're looking 1532 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 3: at the case going on right now, how everybody's turning 1533 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 3: on this officer, the. 1534 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: George Floyd murderer, Yes. 1535 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 3: Okay, And how people are turning on him. They're using 1536 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,719 Speaker 3: him as a skategoat, and too many people are eating 1537 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,759 Speaker 3: that hook line and sinker and thinking that that's justice. 1538 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 3: But what's going to happen is that the system is 1539 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 3: not going to change. Yes, they will throw you this 1540 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 3: one person and say you can have him, let it burn. 1541 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 1: We'll give the. 1542 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 3: Liberal people will give you know, the people who won't 1543 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 3: the justice and the white people and you know, will 1544 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,679 Speaker 3: make you temporarily feel good while we all let's all 1545 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 3: turn on this person so now we can look like 1546 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 3: we we actually are working together to accomplish something, when 1547 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 3: actually they're not. They're using him as it's a sacrificial 1548 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 3: lamb just to get people to shut the fuck up. 1549 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's not going 1550 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,839 Speaker 1: to change the system. 1551 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 3: You have to change the system if you want these 1552 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,679 Speaker 3: things to stop. And that's the trick. It's the trick 1553 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 3: to keep you going long enough so that you have 1554 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 3: such short term memory that when it happens again, we 1555 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 3: go back to zero, it happens again, we go back 1556 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 3: to zero, It happens again, we go back to zero, 1557 01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 3: versus saying no, we're not going back to zero. You 1558 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 3: need to be held accountable. You need to be held responsible. 1559 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 3: And it takes a collective of people to do this, 1560 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 3: and it takes people voting, putting the right people in 1561 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 3: place that will. 1562 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 1: Force them to enforce these laws. 1563 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 3: It takes the police actually wanting to actually change and 1564 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 3: do right by people and right by the community. 1565 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Like not individual people, a collective. The police department as 1566 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,880 Speaker 1: a whole has to come back. It can't be no. 1567 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 3: Blue thad line, No, you're doing wrong. We should make 1568 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 3: it public because the thing be fedter realize in incidents 1569 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,560 Speaker 3: and you read these in incidents when something like this happened. 1570 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,759 Speaker 1: And they immediately fire the officer. 1571 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 3: Guess but you don't have marches. Guess what. You don't 1572 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 3: have protesting. Guess what, you don't have people in the street. 1573 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 3: You don't have people fucking shit up when you turn 1574 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 3: around to be like you got to go, officer. You 1575 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 3: don't have this violent response. And for some reason people 1576 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 3: miss that. But everybody wants to act like. 1577 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 1: The violent response is coming out of nowhere. 1578 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 3: It's not. If you do your job and get this 1579 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 3: person off the police force, you don't have this response. 1580 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. What people want is accountability, right and if once 1581 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: you throw the accountability in that, most people are straight like, okay, cool, y'all, 1582 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 1: y'all gonna actually do what y'all supposed to do. All right, Well, 1583 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm good then I'm not even gonna sit up here, 1584 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and we don't gotta like we might march and whatnot, 1585 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 1: but you won't have these riots. You won't have this 1586 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 1: all this civil unrest and all this shit. We don't 1587 01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 1: need to burn no fucking buildings down because y'all do 1588 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 1: the right things. But every you know that anger that 1589 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: you feel when it's been two years nothing was done. 1590 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 2: You know the video. 1591 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: In Chicago where the woman was naked in her house 1592 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: and and and they had the wrong house and all 1593 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: this shit, and it doesn't come out for years because 1594 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: they keep trying to cover it up and suppress it. 1595 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, like, what is that really and why are 1596 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 1: we trying to suppress the world from the mistakes of 1597 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: public officials who are supposed to be transparent. 1598 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 3: Right right, and then on the low, who you vote 1599 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 3: for matters because here in North Carolina this showed the family. 1600 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 3: But they have laws written now where basically ALSSA judge 1601 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 3: says that it has the republic helped. 1602 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,559 Speaker 1: We had a Republican governor at the time, and he 1603 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: wrote he wrote that in the law, like nope, y'all 1604 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 1: won't be able to see the videos anymore. You know 1605 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 1: what these officers held accountable in any measure, will they 1606 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 1: be held accountable? White Lives Matter rallies are a complete 1607 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: flop after hardly anyone shows up. Last week, uh ball 1608 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Alert My squad detailed the planning of several White Lives 1609 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,679 Speaker 1: Matter events that were supposed to take place over the weekend. 1610 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: The white supremacist gatherings were all played through semi private 1611 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,080 Speaker 1: encrypted chats by neo Nazi's and other far right extremists. 1612 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 1: NBC News reported. The news outlet says the events were 1613 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 1: going to happen in the slowest cities around the nation 1614 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday, the spread hatred and racist views. One of 1615 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the organized said the events were going to take place 1616 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,759 Speaker 1: make the whole world tremble. Well, apparently the gatherers weren't 1617 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: given what they were supposed to have given because Harley, 1618 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 1: anyone showed up. Let me tell you. 1619 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 3: Why, because them motherfuckers arresting people from their insurgent did. 1620 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 3: They went up there and tried to kick in the doe, 1621 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 3: waving the faux fo and people are like, I'm not 1622 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,719 Speaker 3: going out here fucking getting arrested and going to jail 1623 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 3: like that scared a lot of them. 1624 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,759 Speaker 1: Some white Lives Matter races showed up in some cities, 1625 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and anti racist Trust protesters were there marching as well 1626 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,560 Speaker 1: in Raleigh, North Carolina, and TIFA and anti racist protesters 1627 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 1: gathered at the park where White Lives Matter marchers were 1628 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 1: scheduled to be. Pro unity marchers walked around with signs 1629 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 1: that read we accept your surrender. I love when they 1630 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 1: do that. NBC News reports White Lives Matter rallies are 1631 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 1: the first time racist white people have organized and gather 1632 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. The entire weekend event was playing through 1633 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,719 Speaker 1: the app Telegram. Many of the group's scheduled to march 1634 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,679 Speaker 1: also took place in the January sixth domestic terriffs attack 1635 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: on the US Capitol. M Hm, you did say, didn't you. 1636 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:40,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, all that shit is connected. 1637 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 3: I was right, because the on the load they want 1638 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 3: to keep that fire alive. And I think with almost 1639 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 3: the sallencing of Donald Trump, they don't have they don't 1640 01:25:58,560 --> 01:25:59,440 Speaker 3: have that trumpet. 1641 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: This just like going across the land anymore. 1642 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,640 Speaker 3: And so they was like, well, we can't let the 1643 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 3: dot the fire die, almost like we can't go to them. 1644 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 3: They can't go back to Barack Obama, they can't go 1645 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 3: back where they were being punished like they they literally 1646 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 3: have came out the house and they don't want to 1647 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 3: be and put on their hoods and they don't and 1648 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 3: they caps and shit and they don't want to be 1649 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 3: forced to go back into shitting the fuck up, So 1650 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 3: they gonna know we will not shut up. 1651 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a lot of it is just that 1652 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a president. Yes. 1653 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how else. 1654 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: Explain this shit, because I don't think all of a 1655 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: sudden everybody's less racist. I don't think that January sixth 1656 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 1: got to them in a way where they're like I 1657 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 1: changed my views. I think they just know this is 1658 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 1: not the time. We had a dude that was stoking 1659 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 1: those fires, encouraging us to come out. And now it's 1660 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,839 Speaker 1: back to the old way. Yeah, and we'll being racist, 1661 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,439 Speaker 1: but not you know, not out here, and it's. 1662 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 3: One of them things. Well they're gonna, oh shit, now 1663 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 3: we got people that will actually treat us like them niggas. 1664 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,680 Speaker 3: We can't be going out there doing shit and fuck 1665 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 3: around and get arrested. Nah, we need somebody that's gonna 1666 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 3: let us do our thing and then let us go home. 1667 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Zero to one hundred. Oh, this get a hundred one 1668 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:16,840 Speaker 1: hundred zero for me. 1669 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,240 Speaker 2: They march is flopped. 1670 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,360 Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious. Oh yeah, I forgot it did flop. 1671 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Nobody came out. They was all scheduled to go this weekend. 1672 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 1: Motherfuckers are shown up there. 1673 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 3: You seen tad, You said it was no ill give 1674 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 3: it a twenty five awful. 1675 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: Lot of Black Lives Matter people on the other side 1676 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 1: of the street. Stolen Confederate monument will be used as 1677 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 1: a toilet unless white Lives Matter demands are met. Group 1678 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,080 Speaker 1: vows and I said white lies matter is the name 1679 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:49,880 Speaker 1: of the group. A group claiming responses Yes, a group 1680 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,759 Speaker 1: of claiming responsibility for the theft of a Confederate monument 1681 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,560 Speaker 1: in Selma, Alabama, laid out ransomtimes. 1682 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 2: And emails sit to local media Monday. 1683 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: The price for the relicts returned not cash, but a 1684 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: demand that the headquarters of the United Daughters of the 1685 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 1: Confederate in Richmond hang a banner quoting a black radical 1686 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: on Friday, the one hundred and fifty sixth anniversary of 1687 01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 1: Confederate General Robert E. Lee surrender at the end of 1688 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 1: the Civil War. The Jefferson Davis Memorial Chair, which was 1689 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: first reported missing from Live Oaks Cemetery in Selma last 1690 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: month is an ornately carved stone chair that was dedicated 1691 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,439 Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety three the Confederate President's memory, and it's 1692 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 1: estimated to be worth five hundred thousand dollars. Calling itself 1693 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,680 Speaker 1: White Lies Matter, the group sent a message to the 1694 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Montgomery Advisor in Alabama dot com that included. 1695 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 2: A proof of life type photo of the chair. 1696 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 1: It's still alive. 1697 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 3: Shot that shit like ransom. 1698 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,839 Speaker 1: It's still here, y'all. 1699 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 3: It's still breathing. 1700 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 1: It cool. 1701 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:56,519 Speaker 3: Let me talk to the chair. 1702 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Put a newspaper next to it so they know we 1703 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:05,360 Speaker 1: got that, like running across the floor so they know 1704 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,839 Speaker 1: it's real. I just pictured these rednecks on the phones 1705 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: like where it's like, uh, we got your chair. You 1706 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,599 Speaker 1: know what I mean, We'll get it back. 1707 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 3: Come on, please, you know, like I just know, fuck 1708 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 3: around sweating and ship but like, what did you tell 1709 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm tearing the lever? 1710 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Hello, this is White Lives Marider. We have your we 1711 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 1: have your chair. If you want it back, you will 1712 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:32,760 Speaker 1: hang up a banner. 1713 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:34,960 Speaker 2: To put the chair on the phone. 1714 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,640 Speaker 1: I need to know it's okay. That's how that conversation. 1715 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: How do I know you really got my chair and 1716 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,840 Speaker 1: you're not just lying? 1717 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,760 Speaker 2: And how do I know you're gonna do. 1718 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 1: What you say? 1719 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,559 Speaker 2: You don't right? 1720 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,759 Speaker 1: How much money you want? We don't want no money. 1721 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Wave with white flag and say I surrender. Is National 1722 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:05,000 Speaker 1: Trader Coward Day? Uh Yeah. They sent a message the 1723 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,559 Speaker 1: ransom note style to look like it came from an 1724 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds and a photoshop image of what it's banner 1725 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: might look like hoisted about the UDC headquarters more than 1726 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 1: seven hundred miles away. Is what they is. What they 1727 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 1: sent in the in the in the picture like, this 1728 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 1: is what y'all need to see, and I got pictures 1729 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 1: for it if y'all want to see how they did 1730 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 1: the old timmy thing. The look at this, This looks 1731 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 1: like an old wanted poster the Union Forever with an 1732 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: ego at the top Forever. The Jefferson Davids Chair is 1733 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: in our possession. It is safe and stored in secure location. 1734 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: We have every intention of returning unharm hell will even 1735 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 1: clean it for you in exchange for a safe return. 1736 01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,280 Speaker 1: We asked it did close banner be displayed about the 1737 01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: entrance of this building for the following duration One on 1738 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,759 Speaker 1: Friday April ninth, twenty twenty one to one pm Saturday, 1739 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,640 Speaker 1: April tenth, twenty twenty one. Failure to surrender to this 1740 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,679 Speaker 1: request by the aforementioned time will result in the chair 1741 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:14,080 Speaker 1: being carved into a toilet see enclosed photograph. Yeah shit, 1742 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,840 Speaker 1: just got real, thank you for your time. White Lives Matter, 1743 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 1: ink all. 1744 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 3: What short is that they requested it in the blues. 1745 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh it looked like they put a hole 1746 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 1: in it. 1747 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,400 Speaker 3: Oh shit, that was not kidding. 1748 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 1: He's some white people. Oh shit, here's a picture of 1749 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:38,120 Speaker 1: shitting on it with a torn up Confederate flag. 1750 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,679 Speaker 2: He is looking down into the hole. 1751 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,600 Speaker 1: And they dressed up like the Confederate, like the Union too, 1752 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 1: they're wearing the blue Union. Shit, this is good. Oh man, 1753 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 1: they fucked this chair up. 1754 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 3: And I believe that's the original chair too, because you 1755 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,720 Speaker 3: ain't gonna you ain't gonna waste your time carving and 1756 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 3: making no fake shit like that. 1757 01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Damn they showed them paint it. Oh my god, well 1758 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 1: you love to see it. Just get a zero. And 1759 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 1: by the way, they did not comply, And apparently the 1760 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 1: chair got got that that toilet treatment, and they say 1761 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna return it after using it as a toilet. 1762 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, update the chair has been used as. 1763 01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: A toilet and will be returned. The group says, mm hmm, 1764 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 1: oh my god. Well, I mean, I guess you can 1765 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,720 Speaker 1: have your chair back now that they don't used it. 1766 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you love to see it. 1767 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 3: The only time I can say somebody was just in 1768 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,680 Speaker 3: the Confederate and doing a reenactment and I didn't go 1769 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 3: to hell is this. 1770 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Selma Police chief kent to Fullert and District Attorney Michael 1771 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,439 Speaker 1: Jackson confirmed the theft and said they were ware the 1772 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Ransomer man the felony theft caur sometimes tweet midnight three 1773 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,479 Speaker 1: am on March nineteen. Uh, this is this is getting 1774 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,639 Speaker 1: stranger and stranger. Jackson said they hopefully they were cleaning 1775 01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: and sanitizer before they return it. 1776 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,680 Speaker 3: Nope, they won't. They didn't meet the demands. 1777 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,559 Speaker 2: Sound like the cops didn't feel like looking for this 1778 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 2: ship either. 1779 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:19,680 Speaker 1: It was like, we're not going over there. 1780 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 2: I hope they clean it. 1781 01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 1: That sounded like that sounds like shit. You say, well, 1782 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,559 Speaker 1: you can give it. I hope they clean that ship 1783 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,560 Speaker 1: because I'm not. I ain't expected my black ass to 1784 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,439 Speaker 1: get out there hunting for this ship. Just return it 1785 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,320 Speaker 1: where you got it. Yeah, y'all, y'all gonna put the 1786 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 1: ban up. No, that sounded like open this case to me. 1787 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 3: Guy, got to do with this? This is a white 1788 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 3: on white crime. What the hell I'm doing here for? 1789 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: Because that one sheriff was named Kent or something, so 1790 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 1: I know he was like another one named Michael Jackson. Yeah, 1791 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: nothing to see him, okay. Sounded like y'all got this up. 1792 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,679 Speaker 1: Y'all sound like y'all don't want it back. Y'all won't 1793 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: ain't up that banner. 1794 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 3: They're talking to. Michael Jackson's like, do you remember the time? 1795 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,679 Speaker 2: He's like, God, is it black or white? Okay? 1796 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,160 Speaker 1: Because y'all feel like y'all just say white. It seems 1797 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,439 Speaker 1: like y'all think it's white. Come on. 1798 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 3: He was like, you've been hit by. 1799 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 1: They got your they got your chair, they got your chail. Generally, 1800 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:15,920 Speaker 1: is you okay? 1801 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 2: Is okay? 1802 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Jenny? Are you okay? But a way this makes me 1803 01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,920 Speaker 1: feel I'm all vindicated. 1804 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 8: He was like, you notice bad? 1805 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 3: It's bad? 1806 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 1: You know it? Like, are you gonna go out looking 1807 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:37,720 Speaker 1: for it tonight? Shome on? 1808 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:38,559 Speaker 2: Okay? 1809 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,599 Speaker 1: Do I look like I have that kind of time? 1810 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember whether you last saw the chair. All right, 1811 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 1: let's do uh some some guess the race and then 1812 01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 1: uh you know that. 1813 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 3: Came up and they was like just beat it. Hmm. 1814 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 1: It's like, well, y'all did put the chair at first. 1815 01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,479 Speaker 1: So I feel like y'all wanted to be starting something. 1816 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, you got to be starting something. 1817 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 2: Why would they do this? 1818 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Race? 1819 01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:27,679 Speaker 3: Race? 1820 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 1: The race? The race? Somebody had said in the chat 1821 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 1: they don't really care about us. 1822 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:47,960 Speaker 11: That's good. 1823 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,799 Speaker 1: I like that, but that's good. A dispatcher allegedly pocketed 1824 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: at one point two million dollars accidentally this positive an account. 1825 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 1: A former Louisiana Sheriff's dispatcher was busted for allegedly refusing 1826 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,880 Speaker 1: to return more than one point two million dollars that 1827 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 1: was accidentally deposited into her account and splurging some of 1828 01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: it on a new car and a house. 1829 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 11: Ooh, you don't know. 1830 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,720 Speaker 3: You don't do that because because uh yeah, I get 1831 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,599 Speaker 3: some money that I know ain't mine. 1832 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm called, but this the bank ain't got to worry about. 1833 01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm did somebody chap a rone number? 1834 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:23,960 Speaker 2: This ain't nothing. 1835 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 1: But everybody that answered the poll last week that said 1836 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 1: they would keep the forty two thousand dollars. This ain't shit, 1837 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 1: This ain't but the consequence is coming back. 1838 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,640 Speaker 3: Was like word, somebody made a keen error and it 1839 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,439 Speaker 3: went you. You know that money with yours one point 1840 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:40,479 Speaker 3: something million dollars. 1841 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 1: If you don't get that money back plus interest, if 1842 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,760 Speaker 1: it isn't the consequences of my own actions coming on 1843 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,439 Speaker 1: the roost. 1844 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,200 Speaker 3: Because now you're charged with a real feeling it because 1845 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,080 Speaker 3: their mistake was fine. 1846 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,559 Speaker 6: I get some money, Hello, hello, come, I don't know 1847 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,640 Speaker 6: what happened, but you need to get your money immediately. 1848 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 1: I would immediately feel like the government framing me for 1849 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,960 Speaker 1: a crime. What I call now one want on myself. 1850 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,160 Speaker 3: Now, yes, I got some money. 1851 01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how it came. 1852 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,120 Speaker 3: I don't know where it came from. 1853 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,439 Speaker 1: But downdy to find out how I got in my 1854 01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,040 Speaker 1: bank account. Like Franklin Saint about to come in our 1855 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 1: house and put a gun in my head. I'm trying 1856 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't even know I was part of this 1857 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,800 Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy. 1858 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 3: Once it reaches over a certain dollar amount, somebody looking 1859 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 3: for it, and I always assume it's a criminal. 1860 01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:28,720 Speaker 1: Anyway. Kellen Spadoni Kellen Spadoni, thirty three, who worked for 1861 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:33,360 Speaker 1: the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's office, was seeing green when Charles 1862 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,280 Speaker 1: Schwab accidentally deposited the hefty seven to a brokerage account 1863 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 1: back in February when it meant only to transfer eighty 1864 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:44,120 Speaker 1: two dollars. Who had that TYPEO. 1865 01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 3: And I know it can't happen because a lot of 1866 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,120 Speaker 3: times you were for banks. Sometimes because it's certain situations, 1867 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,920 Speaker 3: it's cheaper to have people manually do the work sometimes. 1868 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 3: And so yeah, somebody was ken hit her on number 1869 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,640 Speaker 3: hand and hear the account. 1870 01:37:58,400 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: You know you're supposed to get. I mean they hit 1871 01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 1: a They had a lot of own numbers. If it 1872 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,720 Speaker 1: went from eighty two to a million point two. She 1873 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 1: spent some of the cash on the house in a 1874 01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,839 Speaker 1: new car, a twenty twenty one Yondai Genesis Sport utility vehicle, 1875 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,519 Speaker 1: which can range in price between forty eight thousands and 1876 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: seventy thousand tarties. Authority told no she going back in 1877 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 1: gu Although the money was placed in Spadoni's account, it 1878 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 1: is not her money. She has no legal claim to 1879 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: that money, even if it was put there by mistake. 1880 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,719 Speaker 1: It was in the county era Spadoni was arrested Wednesday 1881 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,120 Speaker 1: and booked on charges of theft of over twenty five 1882 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bank fraud in the legal transmission of monetary funds. 1883 01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,759 Speaker 1: She was fired by the Sheriff's office, where she worked 1884 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,439 Speaker 1: in the nine one one center for four and a 1885 01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,480 Speaker 1: half years, and she after she was booked. 1886 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 2: Charles Schwab and Co. 1887 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 1: Also assues Padoni in federal court, accused her of ignoring 1888 01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:56,479 Speaker 1: their calls, texted emails attempting to recover the money. 1889 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,719 Speaker 3: Because somebody could trust somebody just some checks and balances 1890 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 3: and was like, hey, that's an arrow. 1891 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 1: I know what that was, Like, like, yeah, girl, So 1892 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 1: the other day I was hanging out just no, yeah, 1893 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,680 Speaker 1: so anyway, I was hanging out just you know, just 1894 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 1: chilling or whatever. I don't I don't didn't you. 1895 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:15,000 Speaker 3: Know on my call. 1896 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 1: This is this is the fifth time to call her 1897 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:17,719 Speaker 1: this week. 1898 01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 3: Girl got our money out there? 1899 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, girl, Like I said, like I said, I'm gonna 1900 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go ahead, go to the store something, 1901 01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 1: pick up the phone. I'm gonna go ahead, give me 1902 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,559 Speaker 1: something with us, Like we don't feel like I. 1903 01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,200 Speaker 2: Feel like her friend was there, like you want to 1904 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:33,559 Speaker 2: get that. 1905 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,559 Speaker 1: No, I'm good, but. 1906 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,920 Speaker 3: Like that's the tifth time is rain in less than 1907 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 3: a minute? 1908 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,240 Speaker 2: Right, ms Edoni. 1909 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Now we want to get you into a brand new 1910 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 1: s u V right now, and we're willing to make 1911 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:52,559 Speaker 1: this transaction right. You know, all we need is a ma'am. 1912 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to answer your phone? 1913 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:54,599 Speaker 7: Your phone? 1914 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:55,880 Speaker 1: No, I'm good. 1915 01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:57,000 Speaker 6: M h. 1916 01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 3: Why didn't say bank on your phone? 1917 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that? How much? 1918 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: How much is the down payment? Because I want to 1919 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 1: pay for it all in cash right now? I got 1920 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,519 Speaker 1: it one hundred percent cash? Right, do y'all take direct 1921 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 1: transfers from the bank. I got it safe in the back, 1922 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,360 Speaker 1: I got it. I got you. But yes, so far 1923 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 1: about seventy five percent of money has been recovered. Because 1924 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,960 Speaker 1: that's the other thing. They don't need to get you 1925 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 1: on the phone anyway. 1926 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,760 Speaker 2: They could just take it out of your account. 1927 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 3: Because they know what account of wind. 1928 01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,040 Speaker 1: Schwab argued that all you got to do is do 1929 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 1: a credit and it's gone. Sony Swab argued that's with 1930 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,719 Speaker 1: Don's account. Contract includes an agreement that if a client 1931 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,800 Speaker 1: receives an overpayment of funds, that person must to turn 1932 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 1: the funds in full so it's always just some shit 1933 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,040 Speaker 1: you signed if someone accidentally put it, because they never 1934 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 1: it's never gonna be on your side, by the way like, 1935 01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 1: it's never the other way like, and they must give 1936 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 1: you the money back of that a'sidentally take it. If 1937 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: someone accidentally puts an extra zero the utility payment, they 1938 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't want the money. They would want the money return 1939 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,519 Speaker 1: or credited to them. It's no different. Slow to do 1940 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:04,000 Speaker 1: that though. 1941 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all do it, but you real so, Like I said, 1942 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,960 Speaker 3: everybody quick to take, real slow to pay. 1943 01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 1: It'd be funny if you hit them with they tricks. 1944 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,080 Speaker 1: I'll get it back to you in five to seven busits. 1945 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,440 Speaker 1: If not, just call my number and my help hotline. 1946 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 1: All right, care guess the race of Keeling Spadoni. White 1947 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,720 Speaker 1: cares going with white. Let's check the chat room and 1948 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,840 Speaker 1: see what they believe. Uh, scamming ass deserves the money 1949 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,640 Speaker 1: black crack of millions. She tried to buy back the 1950 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,680 Speaker 1: Confederate Party with the money white. 1951 01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 2: White Italian. I'll show uh that's not white. 1952 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: Uh uh she, I'll show a credit on your account. Whatever, 1953 01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:47,719 Speaker 1: be funny. 1954 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna credit y'all back. 1955 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,600 Speaker 1: Uh any time, y'all any time y'all need money, just 1956 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, take a little bit out. Uh called as 1957 01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 1: a courtesy and didn't go to her house and the 1958 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,800 Speaker 1: media arrest her as a white as the man on 1959 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 1: the front of those big headed Huntetsuh you mean, usher, 1960 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 1: why does the Hondai she purchased white? Black white? Because 1961 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,680 Speaker 1: she bought a sensible car, won't he do it? 1962 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Black? 1963 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 1: Left to that ass on read all day black nigga 1964 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,120 Speaker 1: would have bought electric car white? The correct answer is actually, 1965 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of y'all said the white, it's black. 1966 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 2: Some of y'all did get it right. 1967 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,200 Speaker 1: She really thought she was gonna get away with that. 1968 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,200 Speaker 1: You ain't saint. 1969 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,719 Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna come for that money. 1970 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,240 Speaker 1: She also got that look where she just started acting 1971 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: real religious about it. This ain't nothing but the Lord. 1972 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,920 Speaker 1: I played to the Lord, Okay, I said, I said, 1973 01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 1: if I can visualize it, I can have it. 1974 01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:58,679 Speaker 3: Okay. 1975 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,759 Speaker 1: I am affirming abundance. And I looked in my account 1976 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 1: and I said, be specific. Okay, let's see. Uh how 1977 01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:21,280 Speaker 1: about this one closes? All right? Uh? Can I just 1978 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: play this? Let me see. 1979 01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,600 Speaker 12: Emily Smegnado tells me, the more she thinks about what 1980 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,640 Speaker 12: happened here, the more upset she is. She was here 1981 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,720 Speaker 12: at Bethel Baptist Church in Fayette County on Saturday for 1982 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,840 Speaker 12: the wild Game Dinner. She says she comes every year 1983 01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:38,440 Speaker 12: with her father. This year, though, she won the big prize, 1984 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 12: but was quickly disqualified for being a woman. 1985 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,640 Speaker 5: They pretty much scolded us as for being female. 1986 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,400 Speaker 11: Scolded her and took her prize away a bow fishing 1987 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:49,439 Speaker 11: trip to Ohio. 1988 01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,880 Speaker 5: Raman avid hunter fisher. 1989 01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,920 Speaker 11: Emily Smignado tells me she loves being outdoors and she 1990 01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,559 Speaker 11: really wanted the trip, so when organizers announced that it 1991 01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,080 Speaker 11: was for men only, she thought it was a joke, 1992 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 11: and Spinetto says when she saw another woman put her 1993 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 11: raffle ticket into win, she did too. 1994 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,200 Speaker 5: She was the first name to be called. As soon 1995 01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 5: as they called her name, the pastor immediately shut her 1996 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,720 Speaker 5: down and said, absolutely not. You know, this is a 1997 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,320 Speaker 5: male only trip. Females are unable to attend, so we're 1998 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 5: just gonna keep drawing names until we get a male. So, 1999 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,320 Speaker 5: surprisingly enough, my name was the second one to be drawn, 2000 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,599 Speaker 5: and I got this thing let down. 2001 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:33,160 Speaker 11: Bethel Baptist Church pastor Brian Kelly tells me the prize 2002 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:37,120 Speaker 11: was donated with stipulations. He says, living in the days 2003 01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:41,960 Speaker 11: of sexual scandals and accusations, many pastors, including myself, take 2004 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 11: the personal position that we will not put ourselves in 2005 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 11: a position that could bring about a false accusation and 2006 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,400 Speaker 11: thus bring a multitude of problems. Hence why he personally 2007 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 11: offered them for men only. It was a matter of 2008 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:59,840 Speaker 11: personal standards and protection, and there was no intent of discrimination. 2009 01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,400 Speaker 11: As an apology, Kelly offered to send Spinado on a 2010 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 11: similar trip with her father, but she tells me she 2011 01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,360 Speaker 11: doesn't want a pity prize, she wants equal rights. 2012 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 5: Right, very very wrong, and I'm sorry I had to 2013 01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:14,280 Speaker 5: sit through that. 2014 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,639 Speaker 12: Outside Bethel Baptist Church in North Union Township, Fett County. 2015 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,759 Speaker 11: All right, care, I guess the rice, oh White, Marcius Sabriani. 2016 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 5: Very all right? 2017 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 1: Carry goes with White's one hundred for fucking with women. 2018 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,759 Speaker 1: Let's check the chat or not fucking with women? 2019 01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:30,639 Speaker 2: Okay? 2020 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 1: Right? Also, it's amazing, right, there's no gay men in 2021 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,240 Speaker 1: the world. Apparently, no one could possibly be in a 2022 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 1: situation where a man comes up to another man in 2023 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:39,599 Speaker 1: the world. 2024 01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,800 Speaker 3: Know what you're saying, We have these men can't dicks and. 2025 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,599 Speaker 1: Yeah no, not around a woman care or not really 2026 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 1: that they can, but then women will fossil accuse them 2027 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 1: of right, because that's what women do. Okay, everybody knows 2028 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 1: weird and white as fuck. White Mike pants, shit, white 2029 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,920 Speaker 1: Mike pants. You can be accused, man, Oh yeah, going 2030 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,600 Speaker 1: uh high on purpose. White white white is the popcorn 2031 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,559 Speaker 1: male solid Bethel Church clan street. She white Bethel Baptists. 2032 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 1: Come on, black, Emily v Hunter White, She's okay with 2033 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,639 Speaker 1: white men being discriminatory till it happens, and her white 2034 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:31,720 Speaker 1: white white. The correct answer is white. One person did 2035 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 1: say black, mm hmm hmmm. Yep. They don't even want 2036 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,639 Speaker 1: you to hunt with them, Okay, howse supposed to hunt? 2037 01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 1: When I can smell the vagina's coming from over there 2038 01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:52,120 Speaker 1: and I can't control. Don't she gonna see all these 2039 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:58,040 Speaker 1: available old southern white Christians and just start saying right crying, right, 2040 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 1: you know they can't help themselves, all right, bonus round. 2041 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 12: It's charge to the race. 2042 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:16,880 Speaker 1: It's chimed, its charm the race. It's time to guess 2043 01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,920 Speaker 1: the race. A man is sentenced for helping his wife 2044 01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,639 Speaker 1: fake her death to dodge prison a West Virginia man 2045 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 1: who admitted to helping his wife fake her own death 2046 01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,160 Speaker 1: so she could dodge prison time has been sentenced to 2047 01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: eight months in confinement. Rodney Whiller, forty eight, will spend 2048 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 1: two months in a federal lock up, followed by six 2049 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,559 Speaker 1: months of home confinement after pleting guilty in January, took 2050 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,160 Speaker 1: conspiracy to obstruct justice in the case that sparked a 2051 01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:46,040 Speaker 1: massive three day search for his wife, Julie Whiller. Prosecutor 2052 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,400 Speaker 1: said the couple conspired to fake Julie Willer's death in 2053 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,719 Speaker 1: an effort to avoid potential ten year prison sentence after 2054 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 1: she pleaded guilty in February twenty twenty to scam in 2055 01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,160 Speaker 1: the Department of Veteran Affairs out of more than three 2056 01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,760 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, court document show. Rodney Willer called NOW 2057 01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,960 Speaker 1: one on one on May thirty first to claim Julie, 2058 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,960 Speaker 1: forty four, had fallen over the main overlook at the 2059 01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,599 Speaker 1: New Ridge George in West Virginia. Propped in the multi 2060 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,440 Speaker 1: agency search and rescue operation including the hundreds of volunteers, 2061 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 1: but Julie was found alive in the well two days 2062 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,479 Speaker 1: later by West Virginia State Police, hidden in the closet 2063 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: inside the Beaver Home. The Beaver Home Wow investigators were 2064 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 1: told the woman fell into the garage while into the 2065 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:32,679 Speaker 1: gorge while searching for an earring whoops so fourteen hundred 2066 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,160 Speaker 1: feet above the New River. The Register Herald previously reported. 2067 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 1: Anthoriti said. Rodney Whiller also posted on Facebook one day 2068 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,799 Speaker 1: after the purported plunge that his wife had an accident 2069 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,519 Speaker 1: at Grand View yesterday and was hoping she would be 2070 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:46,040 Speaker 1: found alive. 2071 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,439 Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken and lost right now, but I have. 2072 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,040 Speaker 1: To have faith. Please give us time to work through this, 2073 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,760 Speaker 1: and please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Both 2074 01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,360 Speaker 1: Rodney and Julie Willer later admitted to conspiring to faker 2075 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: disappearance to avoid the woman's pending federal sentence, singing in 2076 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:03,960 Speaker 1: June twenty that plan to go into permanent hiding. Julie 2077 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,880 Speaker 1: Wheeler was sentenced in February to a total fifty four 2078 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,559 Speaker 1: months in prison for the healthcare fraud and her role 2079 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,040 Speaker 1: in the ruse to take fake her own death. She 2080 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 1: was also ordered to pay two hundred and eighty nine 2081 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars restitution for overbuilding scheme related to the spin 2082 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,760 Speaker 1: of Biffit the care. Yeah, you know what's funny about 2083 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,680 Speaker 1: that is they really kept sitting at them agencies out 2084 01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,840 Speaker 1: there because they had two hundred eighty nine million dollars 2085 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:31,639 Speaker 1: on the line. I guess the rice care Karen's going 2086 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:38,440 Speaker 1: with white. Let's check the chat room. White Rodney, Julie 2087 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:42,960 Speaker 1: healthcare fraud, West Virginia, white walter, white, white got a 2088 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,400 Speaker 1: fake death because the police work won't kill her. White, 2089 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,320 Speaker 1: having a caucasidy to believe somebody will believe that story. 2090 01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,799 Speaker 1: White white, white, pasty face, pale person white. A black 2091 01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,800 Speaker 1: man would never ride a die for his woman like 2092 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,439 Speaker 1: this white. This sounds like some nineteen eighty plot in 2093 01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:03,480 Speaker 1: General House. The white Rodney is black. Julias White says Marlene. 2094 01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,160 Speaker 1: I was in DC, but I didn't go inside white white, colored, 2095 01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,280 Speaker 1: white woman, a white collared white woman, white man. 2096 01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:10,920 Speaker 2: She wanted the. 2097 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 1: Plastic surgery for free white. The correct answer is white. 2098 01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:32,040 Speaker 1: Marlene went with black though Nope, they was just a 2099 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,519 Speaker 1: regular white couple because his name is Rodney, not n 2100 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:41,599 Speaker 1: not Rightney. All right, let's google sword ratchetness and then 2101 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:46,519 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. What is my sword 2102 01:50:46,640 --> 01:51:12,880 Speaker 1: sound effect than New Yorker injured in sword attack? Of course? 2103 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 1: May how else do people get injured these days. 2104 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,240 Speaker 2: Elmira, New York. 2105 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 1: On Monday, just for a midnight Elmira Police responded to 2106 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 1: a residence on South Main Street for a report of 2107 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,679 Speaker 1: a man being stabbed with a sword. Oh oh, yes, 2108 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 1: you'll love to see it, don't you? 2109 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:33,960 Speaker 3: Et News at New. 2110 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:37,920 Speaker 4: Good Afternoon twin tears. 2111 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm Chelsea Lavell. 2112 01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,320 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us for eighteen news at noon. Just 2113 01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,719 Speaker 4: before midnight last night, Elmira Police responding to a residence 2114 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 4: within the seven hundred blocks of South Main Street for 2115 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,519 Speaker 4: a report of a man being stabbed with a sword. Now, 2116 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,679 Speaker 4: according to police, upon a rival was found a male 2117 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,880 Speaker 4: victim with a stab wound in his abdominal area. He 2118 01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:00,960 Speaker 4: looks stabby thirty three year old Brandon mcwaughan of Elmira, 2119 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:02,920 Speaker 4: with a salt look direction. 2120 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you never want to cross swords or eyes 2121 01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:08,080 Speaker 1: with him. Agree. 2122 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,400 Speaker 4: The victim was transported to a local hospital to receive 2123 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:16,080 Speaker 4: medical attention. A witness confirming to police sat mcwaughhan was 2124 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,639 Speaker 4: the male who had attacked the victim with the sword. 2125 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,800 Speaker 4: The victim is currently still receiving medical care at a 2126 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,000 Speaker 4: local hospital, but according to police, he's in the stable condition. 2127 01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,920 Speaker 12: M spin angle. 2128 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:33,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to that sister's hair though, but yeah, Maine, 2129 01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, be careful out here on these streets 2130 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 1: with the swords. Please do somebody look at your crossways. 2131 01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,160 Speaker 1: Go ahead across the street. That's what I say. You 2132 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,320 Speaker 1: do immediately. We'll talk to you all tomorrow. Until then, 2133 01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 1: I love you, love you. 2134 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:46,800 Speaker 4: Wow.