1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Yes, living the dream here on a huge college football Saturday. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. We're broadcasting live from the 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: ti iraq dot com studios. Tyer raq dot com are 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: gonna help get you there an unmatched selection, fast reshipping 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: free road has a protection over ten thousand recommending installers. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: Tire rack dot com the way tire buying should be. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: One thing about the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, It is heaven 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: if you're a football fan, because we come down to 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: the wire in the college football season. We're in full 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: throttle as far as NFL football is concerned. Adam kaplan 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: our NFL Inside is going to be joining us coming 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: up here in about twenty minutes. But for once again 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: today we talk about rivalries in games that actually matter. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: And for the second consecutive year, Michigan and Ohio State 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: both came into their big game undefeated. By the way, 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: it's only happened two other times, dating back to the thirties, 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: been in back to back years both teams undefeated. This 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: won a lot closer than last year, but ultimately Michigan 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: prevailed by a score of thirty to twenty four as 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: they advanced to the Big Ten championship game against Iowa. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts about the game today, because there 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: were some interesting officials, calls, some are reversed. In fact, 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: I think there were a number of calls that were 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: reversed in this game. But there was one call that 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: wasn't reversed that you and I are still shaking our 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: heads about. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Well, first off, it was you know, top billing. I 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: had you know, watching that game, and I'm glad it 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: was the first game because when you have games like that, 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: that type of rivalry, right is Michigan Ohio State. I 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: don't care where you're from. Yeah, I don't care where 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: you reside. That game means something. And watching it, getting 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: up early and watching it on you know Big Noon, 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Big Fox at noon and which is nine for us, 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: which is great. You actually forget other games were on, 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: Like I didn't even I didn't even want or have 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: the desire to look at any other game because so 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: much was on the line. You got the number two 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: and three team in the nation. Last year, both of 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: these teams met each other undefeated. 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: By the way. 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: Same thing. 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: The difference is last year Ohio State was able to 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: squeak into that top four and be in the college 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: football playoffs after losing to Michigan. 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm going to tell you how it's 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: going to happen again, but I'm going to tell you 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: how it could happen. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: I guess what's going to say. 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that way this year because 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: you have the we have a Washington you have a 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: Florida State, right and and so now you have two 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: teams sitting there undefeated heading into this. Now, of course 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: a lot's going to ride on this the rest of 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: this Auburn Alabama game, and then Auburn, I mean, and 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: then Georgia and Alabama meeting. 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me slay down for a second. 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this because I was thinking 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: about this, but. 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: To finish up the Ohio State Michigan game, I loved it. 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: But the second touchdown Michigan. 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Second, that second touchdown, I was pretty sure the receiver 64 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: never had really control the same thing. 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: The replay to me, and they reviewed the play and 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: stuck with a call that it was a touchdown. But 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: if you watch the play, he caught the ball as 68 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: he's getting to the goal line. The ball's knock loose 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: trying to get a hold of the ball and instead 70 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: of the Ohio State defender ends up with the ball 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: in his hands. I thought it was you know, but 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: let's give it to Michigan, all right, So let's let's 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: play this out on Howya State still makes the four 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: team playoff. Okay, A couple of things obviously have to happen. 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: Georgia has to win out, so I mean they undefeated, 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: so you know, they have to win out beat Alabama 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: that eliminates Alabama gone. Washington needs to win out, meaning 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: Washington has to win this game against Washington State. By 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: the way, it's tied to fourteen at the half, and 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: they need to beat Oregon next week, which obviously is 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: a tall order. But if Washington wins that game, Oregon's 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: out two losses, Bye bye Oregon. Okay, so now you 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: go down to the Michigan winning out beating Iowa. So 84 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: those are your three undefeated teams. Georgia, Michigan, Washington won 85 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: two three, and now you have Florida State. So Florida 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: State is taken on Louisville coming up in the ACC 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: championship game. Let's assume that Florida State wins that game 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: with their backup quarterback to do. Let me say it's 89 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: gonna be very tough to do. By the way, Louisville 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: lost today at home to Kentucky, but it didn't matter. 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: They were already secure in the a SEC Championship game. 92 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: So if Florida State wins. Now, remember we also have 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: Texas in the mix. 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh. 95 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Now Texas doesn't know yet who they'll play in the 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: Big twelve championship game, but they only have one loss 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, and they won at Alabama. That's obviously the 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: big win on their resume. But you would have let's 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: say a Florida State undefeated team without their starting quarterback, 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: a one loss Ohio State team, and let's say a 101 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: one loss Texas team. Think about the committee in terms 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: of because this is the way this has operated from 103 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: day one. Can remember the year that Alabama did not 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: even get to the SEC championship game and then won 105 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: the national championship. I mean, there should have been some 106 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: kind of prerequisite when they started this four school playoff 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: that unless you actually played in your conference championship game, 108 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: you should not even be eligible for the playoff, But 109 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: they threw that out the window. From the get go. 110 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: This four school playoff is a made for TV event 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: by ESPN. Again, I'm not blaming them, they're the ones 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: paying all the money out, but they're going to take 113 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: the four teams that they want. So if I have 114 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: a Florida State team undefeated without their starting quarterback, Ohio State, 115 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: who obviously could have won today almost did, or even 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: a Texas I'm taking Ohio State. 117 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: Can't do it though, you can't can't do it? Do it? 118 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: They can do. 119 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: Not leave out an undefeated team, one of the only 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: four undefeated teams. If everything works out the way you 121 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: say it, there'll be four undefeated teams at the end 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: of this. 123 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: You can't leave those. 124 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: You you're telling me that they don't. What would you 125 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: rather have as a sidi Okay, they want Georgia Ohio 126 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: State or Georgia Florida State. 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: I definitely don't want to see Georgia Florida State. 128 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Of course you don't. 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody does outside of. 130 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: You know, you have a Michigan. Now there's other things 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: that can happen. I mean, we have so many different 132 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: scenarios going on. By the way, last night, Oregon just 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: throttled Oregon State and Oregon State's coach leaves immediately to 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: take the Michigan State shop. Oregon is looking really good 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: and I'll have my Heisman update coming up later on 136 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: in the show. I mean, honestly, if you if you're 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: just talking eyeball tests, eyeball test, Oregon right now is 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: a better team than Washington, even though Washington beat him earlier. Washington. 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Washington and even watching this game 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: here today, Pennix's numbers have gone down over the last 141 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: several weeks and part of individual numbers. But they're finding 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: ways to win games, and that's what it's all about. 143 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: It's a very dangerous team and they haven't a winning 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: streak that extends back to last year. If bow Knicks 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: plays like he did, I don't know the last four 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: games for bow Knicks. Have you seen the numbers. I 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: mean we're talking ridiculous numbers. He's completing like eighty five 148 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: percent of his passes. 149 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: All that happens. Yes, how do you. 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: Keep Florida State out? 151 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Because they don't have their starting quarterback? I mean that 153 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: is it fair? No, it's not fair. And in fact, 154 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 2: if if they were to pick a one lost Ohio 155 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: State team over and undefeated Florida State team. It would 156 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: be pandemonium. But you know they say, you know what, 157 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: next year, you won't have to worry about this anymore. 158 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: He got twelve teams and both these teams would be well. 159 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: But my idea is ESPN has one last year with 160 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: this four team playoff that's made for TV event, going 161 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: to max it out because like you said, you don't 162 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: want to see Georgia Florida State. 163 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: No, that's no, you don't want see now all of. 164 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: A sudden, there's other scenarios here. What if Georgia loses? 165 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: What if Michigan? Is this all Iowa team? 166 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: This is a. 167 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: Team dangerous to that defense. Think about this. Iowa came 168 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: into this week. I don't know if it held up 169 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: after this last win. There are one hundred and thirty 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: teams in the FBS. They were ranked one hundred and 171 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: thirtieth in total offense, last out of one hundred and 172 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: thirty FBS schools all the conferences. Last ten and two. 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: Now that's some good coaching by Kirk Farence. 174 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: That's a defense. 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: It is the defense, right if your offense is ranked 176 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: last and you're ten and two, I mean, yeah, bro, 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: they all the side of the ball as a monster. 178 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: Here's all we can say. We have today and we 179 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: have next week, and there's a lot that can happen 180 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: to change the scenario as far as the Force School 181 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: playoff and a lot of different scenarios that could change 182 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: the race for the Heisman Trophy. 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Four games already in the books. 233 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Joining us right now as he does every single Saturday, 234 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: is our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. Adam, 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: I want to start with the Jets. So yesterday was 236 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: beyond ugly. I mean, this is a team that is 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: setting records for futility and offense. They've scored ten offensive 238 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: touchdowns in eleven games. I believe that's the fewest offensive 239 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: ten touchdowns to start eleven games in modern football history. 240 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: Robert Sala says his job is safe. The last time 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: I checked his record as the coach of the Jets 242 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: is fifteen and thirty. Anyone with a record like that 243 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: is not safe. And then you have the Aaron Rodgers 244 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: situation where he siss he's coming back to a team 245 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: that has no offensive line to I don't know, further 246 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: jeopardize tea Achilles that was blown out a few months ago. 247 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: So what should we make of the Jets? Let's start. 248 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to start with the future. Robert Sala. He 249 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: insists that he's on absolute, ironclad solid ground right now 250 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: despite his fifteen and thirty record and the complete ineptitude 251 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: of his offense. 252 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: Is that true? 253 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 9: No, I would say, guys, this is what works with 254 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 9: the Jets. We're talking to so many people work for 255 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 9: them over the years. You never know what owner, what 256 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 9: he Johnson is going to do. No one ever really 257 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 9: thinks they're safe there. I can't tell how any coaches 258 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 9: in front office, people I've talked to for last twenty years, 259 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 9: you never quite know what he's going to do, when 260 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 9: he's going to do it. So no, it's just a 261 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 9: matter of what does the owner want to do? And 262 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 9: that's pretty much it. There's really not much else I 263 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 9: could add other than I know the way it works 264 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 9: there from talking to multiple people each year. No matter 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 9: what the owner might say in the season or how 266 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 9: they feel, he could feel differently after the season. And 267 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 9: he was printed by the I'll say this much. He 268 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 9: was behind everything they wanted to do. It was Joe Douglas's, 269 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 9: the GM's decision to trade for Aaron Rodgers. He came 270 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 9: up with the id I told by two people. The 271 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 9: owner loved the idea. Everyone did. Rogers unfortunately got hurt. 272 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 9: Now the bigger question is why do they make Why 273 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 9: did they not get a better backup quarterback? That's probably 274 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 9: the thing if you want to criticize, and if the 275 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 9: owner has anything to say it's negative, that would be 276 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 9: the question, because you can't question the Aaron Rodgers situation. 277 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: He questioned, who's backing them up? All right? 278 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: Well, do you have a question about Aaron Rodgers? 279 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 7: Though? 280 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: Why would he want to even attempt to come back 281 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: behind one of the two worst offensive lines in the lay, 282 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: the other being the Giants. I mean, this team has 283 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: had I think twelve different offensive like combo forty seven sacks. 284 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a complete mess on their offensive line. 285 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: Why would he even contemplate rejoining a team that currently 286 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: sits at four and seven behind one of the worst 287 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: offensive lines we've seen in a recent NFL history. 288 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, and only one starter stayed in his usual spot. 289 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 9: That's left guard Lake and Thomason. Everyone else has missed time. 290 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 9: So here's the way that the Jets feel about the 291 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 9: un route situation. He's It doesn't show in the field 292 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 9: because of the quarterback, because of who who's filling in 293 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 9: for him, but sort of energize their building. They really 294 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 9: good off season. A lot of things were better with 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 9: him around it. It's an extreme long shot that he 296 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 9: could come back, let's call it like it is. Though 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 9: he wants to start practicing over the next couple of weeks. 298 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 9: He's got to get medically clear to do it, first 299 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 9: of all. 300 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 5: But there's just something about having them around. 301 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 9: And by the way, he'll be with the team next season, 302 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 9: so that's another reason why they love having around. He's 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 9: the guy could elevate them. That's just something you asked, Well, 304 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 9: why would he want to come back? He just does 305 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 9: something being on the field, and he was with the 306 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 9: team for this game. By the way, on the sidelines, 307 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 9: he sent them videos of of when he's away with 308 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 9: the team, what he's been doing, and you know, they 309 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 9: are pretty they're pretty jacked up about it. I could 310 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 9: tell you that. But so, yes, why would he want 311 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 9: to come back? Guy's a competitor thirty nine, thirty nine 312 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 9: turns forty very soon, wants to play badly. It's again 313 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 9: highly unlikely he get clear from the step of injury. 314 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 9: We've seen acl before in season. You might remember Rod 315 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 9: Woodson actually came back the same season for the Steelers, 316 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 9: but we've never seen achilles tear and the guy come 317 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 9: back in the same season, So this would be almost 318 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 9: a medical miracle. 319 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: Before I ask my question, let me just say this. 320 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: If any doctor clears him to play this season, they 321 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: should be disbarred. 322 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. I can't see within six months. 323 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: It's thirty nine years old. I know, it's ridiculous. 324 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard at twenty at nineteen to come 325 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: back this fast with a ruptured Achilles tendon, so at 326 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: thirty nine years so I can't. 327 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: I don't. 328 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I desperately don't want him to do it because I 329 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: want to see what he'll look like with that Jets 330 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: offense next year. I agree with you, But let's let's 331 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: move on to a crazier story than that. Can we 332 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: talk about Joshua Dobbs. Yeah, and so what's going on 333 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: in Minnesota? And my question to you is, uh, Firstly, 334 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: how does a guy like this just bounce around? 335 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: Bounce around? 336 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: And secondly, is this someone if they win, if they 337 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: start to win out and put these games together and 338 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: find themselves in the playoffs, is this a real spot 339 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: for for Joshua Dobbs to I guess essentially start his career. 340 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 9: If from talking to people of work with with Dobbs 341 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 9: in the past, there seems to be a shelf life 342 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 9: for him where he brings brings a lot of energy 343 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 9: and passion for the job. 344 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: Good at good enough athlete, very strong arm. 345 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 346 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: He has accuracy issues. 347 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 9: This has been a problem for him, but typically he's 348 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 9: got three, four five games in him. We saw this 349 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 9: with the Cardinals and then he looks like a guy's 350 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 9: bounced around with seven teams. Now we have to look 351 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 9: at the Denver game. He'd three fumbles. Can't have that. 352 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 9: He's turned the ball over a little bit. He is 353 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 9: willing to make throws. He gives you a Chancey, this 354 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 9: is the thing that the Jets missed. You need to 355 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 9: bring in a backup quarterback that gives you a chance. 356 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 9: With Josh Jobs, you have a chance to win every game. 357 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 9: I don't care, I don't care who they play, and 358 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 9: he energizes the team. 359 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: It's been in. 360 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 9: Really have not seen a story like this. I know 361 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 9: we've talked about this before. The guy didn't have any 362 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 9: reps of the first team offense. It gets thrown in. 363 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 9: They're the first game that he's available in the same 364 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 9: week that he was acquired, and he's been really good 365 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 9: since then. And look there they're not Not only are they, 366 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 9: I mean you can't say they are showing for it, 367 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 9: but they're obviously a favor for a wild card spot. 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 9: They hold the sixth spot right now over Seattle, who lost, 369 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 9: but they've got a shot at that. I mean, it's 370 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 9: it's not far fetched. Detroit does not played well at 371 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 9: all the last two weeks. There are a game and 372 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 9: a half of back of well, technically two games. It 373 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 9: just depends on what happens the rest of the season. 374 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 9: But the Vikings have some tie breakers over them. 375 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: The fact that the. 376 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 9: Vikings after they're being one and five are somehow in 377 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 9: it for the the NFC North is remarkable to me. 378 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 9: And the other question is what's wrong with the lines 379 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 9: right now? That that was an awful loss. They got 380 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 9: absolutely handled and and Jordan Love had his best game 381 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 9: as professional. He was incredible against that defense. 382 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: Well, he was inspired after his big win against the 383 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: Chargers charge. No one will get a quarterback more jump 384 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: started than the Chargers with the worst. 385 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 4: They have to fire Britain Stay and. 386 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: Not going to fire him, And I'll explain that to you. 387 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: Well, I want to ask the expert. Okay, well, yes 388 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: they have to fire, they have to correct Adam. 389 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 5: Well, typically he's as I understand it. 390 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 9: Just looking out, I'm looking into some situations where the 391 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 9: questions and that's one of them. 392 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 5: So a's I understand it. He is one your left 393 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 5: on his contract. 394 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 9: Yes, it is very rare in the National Football League 395 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 9: for a head coach to come back on the final 396 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 9: years deal, not how to extend it. It does happen, 397 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 9: but it's because you don't want that coach having to 398 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 9: deal with it. But base By on the way that 399 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 9: he's acting with the media, it's it's just it's not 400 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 9: gonna happen. 401 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: I mean, just the Chargers have done it twice in 402 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: a row. They did it with Mike McCoy and they 403 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: did it with that. 404 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: There's a difference though, but Steve, there's a difference. It's 405 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 5: he's frailed. I mean, he's just he's frazzled. 406 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 4: He is. 407 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 9: You can make a case for him to come back 408 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 9: because they owe money. But what I wanted to get 409 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 9: to is being on the way that he's handled himself 410 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 9: and he's clearly ripping through the seams here. You just 411 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 9: have to wonder how much more he can take of this. 412 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 9: It's just it's just not working out. I could tell 413 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 9: you from talking to them. They really backed him, uh, 414 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 9: and they try to give him everything he asked for. 415 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 9: He asked for a lot on their defense, the certain 416 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 9: personality wanted and it hasn't happened. And you're justin Herbert. 417 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 9: They got to get him back to that super high 418 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 9: level that he's playing and look the the uh. But 419 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 9: here's another thing. Those last two, those last two spots 420 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 9: with Houston and Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh made an offensive coordinator change, 421 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 9: which they've never done before in season. That's neither now 422 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 9: Houston's been fun to watch. But honestly, that that last 423 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 9: spot Pittsburgh, that that last wildcard spots wide open. 424 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: Here. 425 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: The last three games combined, the Kansas City Chiefs in 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: the second half have scored zero points. I mean, the 427 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: idea that the Chiefs have been shut out in the 428 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: second half of three consecutive games. Now I have Chiefs 429 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: fans and say, ah, don't worry, we'll be fine. Are 430 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: they okay? I mean, I mean it's one thing to 431 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: talk about, you know, guys dropping passes that could have 432 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: won a game. But that is not a good trend. 433 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, I was watching the Kelsey Brothers, 434 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey was thoroughly discussed by his own performance and 435 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: really he said, something's got to change because for this 436 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: team with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback, to be shut out 437 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: in three consecutive games in the second half seems. 438 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 439 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 9: And I could tell Look, they had five drops of 440 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 9: the game against the Eagles and they were up seventeen 441 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 9: seven at halftime, and they dominated. 442 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: Seemed like they were up by more than that. And 443 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: then Philly, as they seem. 444 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 9: To do, they're just mentally tough when they handled it 445 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 9: where the offense guys there's no one here for the rescue. 446 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 9: Mahomes clearly doesn't not trust other than Kelsey the's past targets. 447 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 9: It's been a problem. The young receivers have not developed 448 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 9: at all. There's just something off. Their defense is really 449 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 9: good though, it keeps them in every game. At least 450 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 9: they have that. But no, I don't think there's any 451 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 9: help on the rising. It's the first time I've I've 452 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 9: seen with Andy Reid here with Matt Naggie that they 453 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 9: seemingly cannot get it going. 454 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: And if you. 455 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 9: Watched the camera, watched Reid's frustration on the sidelines, that 456 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 9: caught me by surprise. So no, it's a great point 457 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 9: to bring up. There's no one there who could help them. 458 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 9: They're playing everybody they would play, and they got some 459 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 9: real problems right now on offense. It's all fair game 460 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 9: to bring it up. That is a real problem. Now 461 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 9: you look at that, you look at their division here 462 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 9: and there's still two games up on Kansas City. But 463 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 9: remember I've on Denver. Denver already beat them, so they're 464 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 9: gonna win the division. But this conference, Baltimore is a 465 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 9: team to beat right now in the afc UH. 466 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Chiefs. 467 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: They head into the Raiders Dungeon in Vegas this week. 468 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: My thing is Antonio Pearce has got some type of 469 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: mojo going, got those guys believe in. Yeah, what are 470 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: the chances that they extend him and take the interim 471 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: tag off and make him the head coach next year. 472 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 9: Can't rate chances until get the end of the season. 473 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 9: I can tell you for a fact they will interview him. 474 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 9: It's my understanding situation and that's where it's going to go. 475 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 9: I mean it's simple. If it goes down the wire 476 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 9: from making the playoffs, will get an interview. Now, if 477 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 9: they lose for a five in a row, there won't 478 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 9: be an interview. It just depends on how they finish. 479 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 9: Mark Davis, as I've reported for Pro Football Network last week, 480 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 9: he will listen to other people. He'll make his own decision, 481 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 9: but he likes to take input from a lot of people. 482 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 9: He really kept Rich Basaccia their supper teams coach. That 483 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 9: was a mistake fail. Yeah, that he's got dynamic from. 484 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 9: You know, with special teams coaches other than John Harbart 485 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 9: typically don't become head coaches if you haven't had many 486 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 9: of them in the last fifty years. But look so far, 487 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 9: so good with Pierce. I mean, and by the way, 488 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 9: they that was a pleasant surprise. They It wasn't like 489 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 9: they were going to beat the Dolphins, but they pushed them. 490 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 9: They did, they did, and the other the other thing. 491 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 9: Patrick Graham does a phenomenal job their defensive coordinator. You 492 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 9: spe with the Giants, he is. They're not working a 493 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 9: lot of talent now. They're not gonna have Max Crosby 494 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 9: unfortunately tomorrow against the Chiefs, and that's it's unfortunate. 495 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: Wow, we're getting to the interesting time of the year. 496 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: But we saw a lot of games to play. We'll 497 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: see how it all shakes out. Once again, Adam, we 498 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Tom will check in with you next week. 499 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: Sounds good, guys, he. 500 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: Adam Kavlan are Fox Sports Radio, NFL insider. All right, 501 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now on a 502 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: very busy Saturday in the football world. Be fan Bryant Finley, 503 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: who will be hosting a post game You see a 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: Bruin talk at what about midnight tonight? 505 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: What do we do? 506 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 10: I would think at LEAs midnight considering that, and I 507 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 10: love the guys. Postgame version for lear Field. So they 508 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 10: go on first, and when there's a home game, let's 509 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 10: just say they like to go for an hour and 510 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 10: a half. 511 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: So that game kicks off seven thirty local time. Let's 512 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: say it goes three plus hours. Yeah, you're you're looking 513 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: at midnight. 514 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 10: We're looking at midnight. So we're gonna have a bruin 515 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 10: talk on a Sunday morning. 516 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 5: Who doesn't want that? 517 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: So see if you can get Chip Kelly as a 518 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: live guest. See it that we you can do. 519 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 10: I have never been able to do that. So yeah, 520 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 10: wouldn't that be something if that could be possible. You 521 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 10: know what is interesting and what could be something is 522 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 10: if Auburn pulls off this win against number eight Alabama. 523 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 10: It's twenty four to twenty Tigers in front here and 524 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 10: there's eight forty eight to go in the fourth quarter. 525 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 10: So with Nick Saban in trouble here, this could do 526 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 10: a lot in the shakeup of what Bolds Bulls teams 527 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 10: are going to go to and everything that could lead 528 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 10: to trickle down effect. Number fifteen eras z Is hounding 529 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 10: Arizona State fifty two to twenty three. Wildcast quarterback Noah 530 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 10: Fafita five hundred and eight yards passing four touchdowns, and 531 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 10: he not too long ago he lit up the UCLA defense. 532 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 10: So he's doing it again against a much inferior opponent, 533 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 10: you would think in the Sun Devils as far as 534 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 10: the completed games. But before we do that, want to 535 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 10: mention one more. The Apple Cup is happening right now. 536 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 10: They are halfway through the third quarter. Cam Ward and 537 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 10: Washington State. They have the football, two touchdown throws for 538 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 10: cam Ward, it's fourteen to fourteen. Washington State has the 539 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 10: football in their territory against number four Washington and it 540 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 10: has to be a win for Wazoo if they want 541 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 10: to get to a bowl game and try to write 542 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 10: what has been a really disappointing second half of the 543 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 10: season for them. Number three Michigan devastates number two Ohio 544 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 10: State thirty to twenty four behind two touchdown runs from 545 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 10: Blake Krum. There was a late interception that essentially ended 546 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 10: the game in the favor of the Wolverine. Another rivalry 547 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 10: game had Kentucky scoring a thirty seven yard touchdown on 548 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 10: the ground from Ray Davis with under two minutes to 549 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 10: go to surge past number ten Leisvelle thirty eight to 550 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 10: thirty one, So is stunner there in Louisville and not 551 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 10: so much a stunner in Baton. Ruge were number fourteen. 552 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 10: LSU takes the sledgehammer out on Texas A and M 553 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 10: forty two to thirty twenty one points scored in the 554 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 10: fourth quarter for the Tigers, and Jayden Daniels had one 555 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 10: hundred twenty yards rushing the LSU quarterback and also four 556 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 10: touchdowns through the air. The former Arizona State quarterback Ephram 557 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 10: and Steve I know you guys. I don't know Steve 558 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 10: if you have a Heisman vote or not. I wasn't 559 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 10: sure about that. 560 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 4: But I don't. 561 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't really want to share that with everyone, but yes, yeah, 562 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: the most time ever I want to reveal I do 563 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: have a Heisman vote. 564 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 10: And I have a feeling and this is maybe a 565 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 10: tease that I'm not saying he's number one, but he 566 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 10: has to be top three, top five. 567 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: Well, you gotta hear my update coming up here shortly. 568 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: I can't wait to the moment. By the way, let's 569 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: go all right, defense, thanks so much, Frian family, join 570 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: us there once again. This is Fox Football Saturday. We're 571 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: coming alive from the tyraq dot com Studios EPAN. Let 572 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: me ask you this. Let's say Alabama loses this game 573 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: to Auburn and then beats Georgia next week. Two loss, 574 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: Alabama winning the SEC championship. 575 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: They don't get in. 576 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: They don't get in. They snapping what would be Georgia's 577 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: what twenty eight game winning streak? 578 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Georgia would get in. Georgia would stay. 579 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: So then let's also talk about this. We're talking about 580 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: Ohio State. How they could still backdoor into the four 581 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: school playoff. Let's say Washington loses today to Washington State 582 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: and then beats Oregon. Would they take a one loss 583 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: a PAC twelve champion one loss Washington team or a 584 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: one loss Ohio State team. 585 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: They would take a one loss Ohio State team. 586 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: Even though Washington would have beaten Oregon. 587 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: If Washington out. 588 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay, but my point is they lose the Washington State, 589 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: but they beat Oregon for the second time this year, 590 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: one loss Pack twelve champion Ohio. Didn't we all say? 591 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: And even if you are a die hard Big ten fan, 592 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: top to bottom, the PAC twelve has been stronger this 593 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: year than the Big ten stronger? 594 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: Did we said that? 595 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have the pack. So I just gave 596 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: you a sona scenario. We're the PAC twelve champion and 597 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: the SEC champion champions are not in the four school playoff. 598 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: If Alabama loses to Auburn but then upsets Georgia next 599 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: week and wins the SEC championship with two losses out, yes, 600 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: this is, by the way, if all these things playoff, 601 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: and it's not like it possible because I'm watching these 602 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: games right now. This is when people are gonna say, oh, 603 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: now we have a twelve school playoff and you say 604 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: that's too many. 605 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: I think it's way too many. 606 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: Too many. You heard rich Ornberger. He wants to have 607 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: a thirty two maybe sixty four team tournament. 608 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: We can't. He's crazy. 609 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: It'll go for six weeks. 610 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: It's not basketball once a week. Yeah. 611 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the other levels of college football have 612 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: had sixteen school playoffs for years, you know. Or the 613 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: opening rounds all played on the home field of the 614 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: better seated team and then you can finally get to 615 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: neutral sites. But yeah, I mean again, so many different 616 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: scenarios could play out as far as the end of 617 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: this college football season. I want to just get back 618 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: to one thing. You're talking about, and that is the 619 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: situation with Brandon Staley, who literally went off the deep 620 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: end telling members of the media you don't have to 621 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: ask questions about the defense anymore. This is a guy who, 622 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: through his doing, has the second highest payroll defense in 623 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: the National Football League and overall their rank the second 624 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: worst defense in the NFL. He's also suddenly reverted to 625 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: that form where we had the perfect game plan the 626 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: players just weren't able to execute. And my attitude to 627 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: that is, well, if your players can't execute your game plan, 628 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: then it wasn't the right game plan. You're you're supposed 629 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: to put a game plan together that your team can 630 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: actually execute. The Yeah, that's how you win. Look, I'm 631 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: one hundred percent with you. This guy should never even 632 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: have made it back from Jacksonville last year after that 633 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: debacle in that playoff game. But there is a pattern here, 634 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: and I've said this before about the Spanos family and 635 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: the way they run the Charger organization. The president of 636 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: football Operations is Dean span Son John his best friend 637 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: on the planet is Tom Teleasco. How many general managers 638 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: can go through three different coaches be the general manager 639 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: for more than a decade, not win a single division 640 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: title and still have a job. Not very many Tom 641 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: to LESCo because he's the president of Football Operation's best friend. Well, 642 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: they're not going to eat the contract of Brandon Staley. 643 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: They got to eat something because this is out of control. 644 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: They're literally wasting justin Herbert's years. Yeah, wasting them away. 645 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well they did the same thing with Philip Rivers. 646 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: Yes, they did same thing. 647 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about an eight time Pro Bowl quarterback, 648 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: you know, one of the all time greats in terms 649 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: of total numbers, and they wasted him. 650 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm justin Herbert. I'm like, man, I'm trying to get 651 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: his money back. I'm trying to be out now. 652 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: You just signed that long term contract. And by the way, 653 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: he's always been a champion of Brandon Staley. How's the 654 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: Kellimore situation working for you? And why did you waste 655 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: a first round pick on a wide receiver? 656 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: Again? 657 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: How about that drop? 658 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah that was bad? 659 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Even he admitted, yeah, you know I should. Quentin Johnson, 660 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I should. 661 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: I need to. 662 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: I need to be able to make that catch. You think, 663 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: how do you handle that when you see you're an 664 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: offensive lineman you're fighting your life out in some. 665 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: Skilled It hurts, I can tell you it hurts. 666 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: Never even just like sweat, just. 667 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: Like when they're wide open. 668 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we give up a sack or something like that, 669 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: or pressure and make the quarterback move off the spot. 670 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: They feel the same type of frustration. Catch the ball, man, 671 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: catch the ball. That's your job, one job. 672 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: That's your one job. 673 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: This one job. 674 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: I have to turn in my Heisman vote in nine days. 675 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god, look what just happened? 676 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: This is out of control Alabama. What is happening here? 677 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: Botched fumble? All right? 678 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: So we now have Auburn leading Alabama twenty four to twenty. 679 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was awful. 680 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: We're inside five minutes to go. So we had a 681 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: punt by Alabama and the receiver fell and dropped it. 682 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: Can't advanced the ball with the ball will first down 683 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: for Alabama, putting themselves down boarding position, down by four, 684 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty Alabama trailing Auburn. Wow, right, coming 685 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: up on the other side, Where do I stand with 686 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: nine games to go before I have to cast my 687 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: vote for the Heisman? You're going to find out this 688 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: is Fox Football Saturday. Steve harviin and he from Salam. 689 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. We're coming alive from the 690 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: tire rack dot com studios. All right, it is that time. 691 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: Countdown, come Heisman watch. 692 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: So this is the time of the year where I'm 693 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: really paying attention to individual performances in the biggest games 694 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: on teams schedule. That to me is the dividing line 695 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: in deciding ultimately which three names will be placed on 696 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: my final high Usman ballot. This update is to the moment. 697 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Here is my current number three. 698 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 7: Accord back to pass with pressure coming, throws middlefield Clught Harrison, 699 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 7: who moves to the right side and slips into the 700 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 7: end zone Marvin Harrison for a touchdown of fourteen yards. 701 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison was in the. 702 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 7: Middle of the field, slipped out to the right, clought 703 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 7: the pass from his high school teammate. 704 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: Paul Keels from lear Field. This was tough. Ohio State 705 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: lost today. Five catches, one hundred and eighteen yards and 706 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: a touchdown to add to his lofty numbers. And this 707 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: despite the fact that he doesn't exactly have a future 708 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback throwing him the football. Marvin Harrison Junior may 709 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: well be the best talent in the country. He definitely 710 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: is in on my list. He is my current number three. 711 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: Here is my number two. 712 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: Daniels' eyes. 713 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: The defense moves Williams from his left to right hip 714 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: on third down and three. Here's the snap, spread out 715 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: throw catchmate. 716 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 8: At neighbors by Neighbors at the two, and he's in 717 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 8: the cuck right corner of the end zone. 718 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: Touchdown Fighting Tigers, LSU Sports Radio Network. So this one's tough. 719 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: Jayde Daniels is my current number two. There are two 720 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: main categories for a quarterback, passing efficiency and total offense. 721 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: He leads the nation in both by a wide margin. However, 722 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: his team's lost three games. Let me give you three 723 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks whose teams had three losses in 724 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: the regular season. Tim Tebow, RG three Lamar Jackson. They 725 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: all won the Heisman on teams that lost three games 726 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: pre Bowl. Keep that in mind. That being said, here 727 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: is my current number one. Ferguson in motion. 728 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 8: Give it to my captain, Buzzgo left Buzzgo and scoring 729 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 8: Bonas what Bonas and then his half Marie Thing right 730 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 8: bone knicks touchdown Oregon. 731 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: At Jerry Rroll for lear Field. Let me give you 732 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: the numbers he is completing this year through eleven games. 733 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: Through twelve games, excuse me, seventy eight point six percent 734 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 2: of his passes with thirty seven touchdowns and two interceptions. 735 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: Goodness on a team that has lost one game that 736 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: to Washington bow Knicks. Thirty seven touchdowns, two picks, completing 737 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 2: almost seventy nine percent of his passes. 738 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 4: See your first pick in the draft. 739 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: No, Caleb Williams is still the best talent, but I 740 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: will say this, bo Nicks is in a position now. 741 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: There's two other guys I want to mention. Obviously, Michael 742 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: Pennix junior, who's been my number one for several weeks, 743 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: didn't even make my top three. That can change. He 744 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: just threw a touchdown pass. I mean he'll have a 745 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: head to head opportunity next week against bow Knicks. The 746 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 2: other guy I want to mention is Cody Schroder, the 747 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 2: running back at Missouri. This guy is one of the 748 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: great stories in college football. Two years ago, he's a 749 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: first team FCS All American at truman State, ran for 750 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,280 Speaker 2: over two thousand yards. He transfers to Missouri. Right now 751 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: today he leads the nation of rushing Koe Schrader, this 752 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: five foot nine running back that did not have a 753 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: single offer coming out of high school, goes to truman State, 754 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: becomes an FCS all American, transfers to Missouri and currently 755 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: leads the nation. And this, by the way, is a 756 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: Missouri team that goes ten and two in the SEC 757 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: and has a ticket. 758 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 4: For a New Year's state ballgame. Oh wow, all. 759 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: Right, So the Auburn Alabama game. Now we are down 760 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: to a minute thirty five, The clock is ticking. Auburn 761 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: leads by a score of twenty four to twenty and 762 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: Alabama just had the ball snap by the center. 763 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: Goal on the seven. 764 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: And Milroe was not looking. 765 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 4: Second and goal on the seven. 766 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: Excuse me, he's looking to his left. The ball snapped, 767 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: the ball goes back fifteen yards. He has to fall 768 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: on it, and so what was a first down at 769 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 2: the eight yard line? Suddenly they go backwards and now 770 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: face a third and goal. 771 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 4: Third and goal from the twenty six yard line. 772 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: Now Alabama needs the touchdown. A field goal does him 773 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: no good. And the clock is ticking. Alabama's three timeouts, 774 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: but they're letting the clock run, all right, Third and 775 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 2: goal from the twenty six Milroe's got time. He's gonna 776 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: have to look to the end zone. It's the only 777 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: way you're gonna get a first down. He's gonna run. 778 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: Oh, he can't throw it. Now, you can't go back. 779 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 4: He can't throw it. 780 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he crossed the line of scrimmage and then went back. 781 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: That's an illegal pass, which, by the way, is also 782 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: a loss of down. So Nick Saban is beside himself. 783 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: This thing has gone completely sideways. Once you've crossed the 784 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage with which he did by two yards, 785 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: and then try to back up and he still was 786 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: across the line of strimmage when he threw the ball. 787 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: That is an illegal forward pass and a loss of down. 788 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: So now you have fourth down. So it looks like 789 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: Alabama is in a prime position to pull this game out. 790 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 4: Well they were. 791 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 2: Now they're gonna need a miracle on fourth and goal. 792 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: There are no more miracles. That was that was fourth loss. 793 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: No, that was third down. Yeah, so now it will 794 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 2: be fourth down. Yeah, they don't replay the down here. 795 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: So Alabama again trailing Auburn by a score of twenty 796 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: four to twenty, we have forty three seconds. Meanwhile, Washington 797 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: did score Michael Pennix Junior throwing a touchdown pass. They 798 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: now lead Washington State twenty one to twenty four with 799 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: fourteen minutes to go in the fourth quarter. In that game, if. 800 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 3: You're Alabuma, wouldn't you have just run the ball and 801 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: got as close as you could to make fourth down? 802 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 2: Night and Washington just intercepted the pass, so they get 803 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: the ball back trailing or leading Washington State by a touchdown. 804 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna continue on with our coverage of 805 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: this Alabama Auburn Iron Bowl game, plus much more coming 806 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: up about a big Sunday in the National Football League. 807 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. 808 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 809 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: the nation. 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So 818 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: while we were gone, it got down to this for Alabama, 819 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: fourth and goal at the thirty one yard line. First 820 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: of all, we were like, when's the last time you're 821 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 2: seeing a team face a fourth and goal at the 822 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 2: thirty one yard line. But that's what happened to Alabama 823 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 2: came over right, Well, it is over, but it now 824 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: is in favor of Alabama, who, by the way, just 825 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: ran the ball back for a touchdown on a pick six. 826 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: Ten the game. Alabama has Jalen Milroe who went brain 827 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: dead by crossing the line of scrimmage and then trying 828 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: to throw a pass which put them in a fourth 829 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: down situation thirty one, and he throws a touchdown past 830 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond in the corner of the end zone. Bonn 831 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: had a slight push up, but it wasn't dramatic. 832 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 4: BA got himself find a way to lose. 833 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: This was at Auburn, and by the way, Alabama gets 834 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: a pick six to end the game. I don't know 835 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: what the line was on this game, but Alabama has 836 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 2: won this game by a score of thirty three to 837 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: twenty four. 838 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 4: That was unbelievable. 839 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: Ah okay, so even let's let's take a look at 840 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: the touchdown play. So let's talk about the touchdown play defensively, 841 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 2: in a fourth and goal at the thirty one yard line, 842 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: what's your defense? 843 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: Uh, one rusher and ten people standing on the goal line, right, 844 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 3: and as soon as the ball is in the air, 845 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: they all converge on the ball, right, that's it. 846 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: Instead, Auburn was in a defense where they basically had 847 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: single coverage on each of the Alabama receivers that were 848 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: in the end zone and one got free. It's a 849 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: hell of a throw by Bill Roll though. I mean literally, 850 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: he's throwing to a spot and he threw a perfect 851 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: past to Bond, who caught the ball. Are they reversing 852 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: that final touchdown? I believe they may have. They say 853 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: he may have stepped out of bounds. Could be critical 854 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: with the points bet. I'm not quite sure. We're going 855 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 2: to watch right now to see what the final score. 856 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 2: They are literally showing Auburn fans crying. 857 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 4: They're they're decimated right now. They are. 858 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: This was their whole season everything. They came in with 859 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: a six and five row. 860 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 3: Bowl game, no bragging rights. They are who we thought 861 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: they were. By the way, Jams let him off the hook. 862 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: You know Jaylen Milroe in almost any other year would 863 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 2: be on the short list for the Heisman. This guy 864 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: got bench for a game head over one hundred yards 865 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: rushing today through tough couple of touchdown passes, including the 866 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: game winner. This team was given up for dead. People 867 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: were talking about the end of Nick Saban when they 868 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: lost that game to Texas earlier this year. They haven't 869 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: lost since eleven to one. 870 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 4: Shout out to them, it's amazing. 871 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 2: And now they get ready for Georgia in the SEC 872 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 2: Championship game. I mean, Georgia looks unbeatable right now. Unbeatable, 873 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. So unbelievable. Auburn today had two 874 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: hundred and forty four yards rushing against that Alabama defense 875 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: that does not vote for Alabama. Well, going against Georgia, No. 876 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 4: This thing got to be It's about to get real ugly. 877 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. So apparently they have taken that last 878 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 2: touchdown off the board. That pick six did not count. 879 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: So final scorer era Alabama wins at twenty seven to 880 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 2: twenty four. Do we have the final? All right? So 881 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: Eli Gold with the call for Alabama, let's hear it. 882 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 3: Fourth and goal from the thirty one yard line. 883 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: Here's the snack. 884 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 3: Milroe stands in, lets everybody get downfield, still standing, he throws. 885 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 4: Into the end zone on it. It's caught. 886 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 2: It's caught by Isaya Bond. 887 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 3: Caught by Isaya Bond in the corner of the end zone. 888 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 5: Touchdown. 889 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Now, Lolbama, I got goosebumps. I mean it was, by 890 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: the way, the throw was incredible by Milroe. I mean 891 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: he just threw it into the corner right in the corner, 892 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: perfectly in the end zone. Bond was able to get 893 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: it for the touchdown. Unbah believable. And I can tell you, oh, 894 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 2: look at those fans. They are just weeping. They're they're 895 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: done weeping right now. 896 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 4: They're done. 897 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: They are in absolute stunned disbelief. I've been there when 898 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 2: you have a rivalry game that you think you have 899 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: and you don't. Oh, it is just crushing, all right. Meanwhile, 900 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: Washington's still leading Washington State by a score of twenty 901 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: one to fourteen. Washington will be playing Oregon next week 902 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: in the PAC twelve Championship game. But they need to 903 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: win this game because we started playing out all the 904 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 2: different scenarios of what could happen to get an Ohio 905 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: State into the playoff with one loss. I mean again, 906 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 2: the whole Alabama dynamic. If Alabama beats Georgia next week, 907 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: obviously Alabama's in and Georgia will be in as well. Boom, 908 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 2: that's two spots right there. Then you have Michigan, assuming 909 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: they beat Iowa State or Iowa excuse me, Iowa. That's 910 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 2: three teams. Then all of a sudden, you have let 911 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: me ask you this. Okay, okay, let's say again Alabama 912 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: beats They're both in, right, A one lost Georgia team 913 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 2: is in no matter what. Yes, Michigan wins. That's three teams. 914 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 4: Three. 915 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 2: Oregon beats Washington and Florida State goes undefeated, beats Louisville. 916 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 2: Now you have an undefeated Florida State team. 917 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 4: One lost Washington team. 918 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: No, you would have a one loss Oregon team, right 919 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: who goes in? You only have one spot left and Oregon. 920 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 2: By the way, if Oregon beats Washington next week, bo 921 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: Nicks is the odds on favorite to win the Heisman. Remember, 922 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: Jadon daniels season is over. LSU doesn't have any more 923 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: games until they're bowl games. 924 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 4: So. 925 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: Would they bypass a one loss Oregon team beating Washington, 926 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: getting the revenge on Washington over and undefeated Florida State 927 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 2: team without their arting quarterback. 928 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because. 929 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: Well the Heisman will not have been named I know, 930 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: but it would be probably. 931 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 4: We know what that is. 932 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh this did I mean, I'm telling you 933 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 2: different this. 934 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: I love it coming down to these scenarios and these possibilities. 935 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,959 Speaker 2: Yes, makes so so. 936 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 4: Many teams have something to play for. 937 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: Now. What's interesting for our show here is that that 938 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: Washington Oregon pac twelve championship game next week will kick 939 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: off when we go off the air five o'clock Pacific time, 940 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: so we won't even know the outcome of that game. So, 941 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we we got a lot of different scenarios. 942 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 2: But what we just saw in that Alabama Auburn game, well, 943 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: fourth and goal at the thirty one yard line, touchdown, 944 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 2: way no way, but they pulled it off. Unreal. Okay, 945 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 2: all right, so we got more college football officer, We're 946 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 2: going to keep eyeing this Washington Washington State game. We 947 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: got seven and a half minutes to go, and Washington State 948 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 2: has the ball at the twenty yard line of Washington. 949 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: They have a third and fifteen and they just call 950 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: a quarterback draw. It looked like it didn't get very 951 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 2: many yards. So seven minutes to go, fourth and thirteen 952 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: and Washington State's going to come out to kick a 953 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 2: field goal to try to make this a four point 954 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: washing game. We got a lot of NFL football to 955 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 2: get to right now. I want to talk about two 956 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: teams that right now have both won eight games and 957 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: lost three, and both teams are frauds, at least in 958 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: my mind, maybe not in your mind, because combined there's 959 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: sixteen wins have come against fifteen teams with losing records 960 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: and one team with a five hundred record. That would 961 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: be the Dallas Cowboys and the Miami Dolphins. Frauds. Dallas 962 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 2: has not beaten a single team with it currently with 963 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: a winning record. In fact, they have literally what up 964 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: on the dregs of the NFL. Miami is not better. Ironically, 965 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 2: Miami's only win against a team even five hundred this 966 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: year as a team they beat seventy to twenty. That 967 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: was their win over Denver, and of course Denver is 968 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 2: bounced back after that zero to three start and finds 969 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 2: himself at five hundred right now. So on the NFC side, 970 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 2: you look at the Eagles. You look at the forty 971 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 2: nine ers, still not sure about the Lions. On the 972 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 2: AFC side, he got the Ravens, the Chiefs. The offense 973 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 2: is not good. But I don't put Miami in their class? 974 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 2: So am I right about Dallas and Miami? Should they 975 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: be in the conversation as far as teams that can 976 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: make it to the Super Bowl? Do you see them 977 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 2: in the class of the other elite teams in their 978 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 2: respective conferences? 979 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 3: The problem with allowing teams to feel like they're better 980 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 3: than they are is later in the year, in December January. 981 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 3: There's a shift there. So now the belief in yourself 982 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 3: and what you can do outweighs the opponents you've played 983 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 3: and their record, their win loss records. So you find 984 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 3: yourself in a position to where a Dallas at eight 985 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 3: and three right now, continues to go, continues to play, continues. 986 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 4: To win. 987 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 2: Against bad teams, against bad teams, really bad teams. 988 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 4: Say what you want. 989 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: They beat the Rams, the Chargers, they beat the Giants twice, 990 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: the Jets, the Patriots, the Commanders. 991 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 3: They only have one bad team left on their schedule, 992 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 3: and they have six games left. 993 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: They're not in the Eagles class. 994 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, they have the Seahawks, they have the Bills, 995 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: they have the Lions, the Eagles, the Dolphins, and then 996 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 3: they finish up with the Commands. 997 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 2: But they got the Eagles or the best team. You 998 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 2: just mentioned two teams. The Lions are eight and. 999 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 4: Three, Bills, Bills, Seahawks. 1000 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,919 Speaker 2: Right, these are all good teams are So. 1001 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is we're going to find out just 1002 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 3: how good they are. 1003 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 2: Do you buy into them? 1004 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 4: No? 1005 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 3: No, no, because it's the Cowboys, and I know Cowboy 1006 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: fans are passionate people. 1007 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, I've also said this about the Cowboys. 1008 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 4: I just don't trust them. 1009 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: I've also said this about the Cowboys at some point 1010 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: the football gods. By the way, touchdown Washington State. They're 1011 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 2: an extra point away of tying this game against Washington. 1012 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 3: Here, Well, they had kicked a field goal knows the penalty, yes, 1013 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: on the field goal, which gave them the ball back 1014 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 3: with the first down, and they've scored. 1015 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 2: All right, So now it's twenty one all we got 1016 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 2: inside six minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Washington 1017 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: and Washington State tied up in the Apple Cup. So okay, 1018 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent on Dallas right now? 1019 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: But what about the Dolphins When you look at the AFC. 1020 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: Are we in a court right now going into their 1021 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: Sunday night matchup against the Chargers tomorrow that the Ravens 1022 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 2: right now are the best team in the AFC With 1023 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 2: a healthy Lamar Jackson. 1024 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this will be the first time in 1025 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: a couple of years that Lamar is playing in late December, 1026 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 3: I mean late January December. 1027 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But as long 1028 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 2: as he's healthy, then their problem. Where are you with 1029 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs right now? 1030 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 3: As long as Patrick Mahomes is breathing and Andy Reid 1031 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 3: is on the sideline, you have to give him a 1032 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 3: shot strictly. This year, more than any other year, their 1033 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: defense is the top five defense. 1034 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 2: But what teams are finally figuring out? Because I remember 1035 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 2: this last year when Tyreek Hill left, I thought, well, 1036 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 2: this is going to make things a lot easier for 1037 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 2: defenses because you used to have to pick your poison 1038 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 2: between Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelty. But somehow it didn't 1039 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 2: matter because you know, Juju Smith Schut's had a pretty 1040 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 2: good for them. They are able to continue to get 1041 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: their offense rolling this year's a completely different story. What 1042 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 2: teams are now doing is they are taking Kelsey out 1043 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 2: of the game, yeah, and putting it up to those 1044 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 2: wide receivers to catch a pass and they're not. So 1045 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about the Chiefs right now. Remember 1046 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: they have hosted the AFC Championship Game five years in 1047 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 2: a row. 1048 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 3: Okay, so since since giving up thirty one, or since 1049 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 3: giving up thirty eight to the Bills, Yes, on October tenth, 1050 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 3: they have given up thirteen three, twenty seven, fourteen, nine, 1051 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 3: nine nine, gave up twenty eight to the Chargers, still 1052 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 3: won that game. They've given up ten, gave up thirty one, 1053 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: I mean thirty four excuse me to the Bengals lost that. 1054 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 3: Oh no, that's sorry, that's preseason, right, So what the 1055 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 3: trend thirteen? 1056 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 5: Okay? 1057 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: But I mean is that what the Chiefs are about? 1058 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: You just said it's Patrick Mahomes, right, Yeah. 1059 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 3: But when you look at it, no matter what's going 1060 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 3: on offensively for them, if they have a top five 1061 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: defense that gives you time, like you don't have to 1062 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 3: outscore people. That was the Chiefs thing. They will put 1063 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 3: up thirty five, forty points on you. But now they 1064 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 3: can win a game with twenty one, they can win 1065 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: a game with twenty four because the defense is getting 1066 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 3: after opposing teams. So it takes the pressure off of 1067 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. It takes the pressure if you can now 1068 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 3: punt the ball and don't worry about it. And that's 1069 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 3: a luxury that I don't think that the Chiefs have 1070 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 3: had since Patrick Mahomes has been there. 1071 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at Patrick Mahomes' postseason record because that's 1072 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: what it all is about. And he has never played 1073 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: a road game in the playoffs. No, never, because they've 1074 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 2: had home field to vanish throughout you know, neutral site 1075 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 2: games obviously in Super Bowls. He's never had a road 1076 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 2: playoff game. He may be looking at one this year. 1077 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: He may be looking at a road playoff game. And 1078 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 2: if it's in Baltimore, that's gonna be tough. Don't forget 1079 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 2: about Jacksonville, Okay, I'll get to Jacksonville on the other side, 1080 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 2: all right again, twenty one all Washington and Washington State 1081 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 2: and the Apple Cup inside six minutes ago in that game, 1082 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 2: also we're watching Florida State trying to keep their undefeated 1083 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,959 Speaker 2: record going with a backup quarterback just kicking things off 1084 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 2: against the rival Florida Gators. This is Fox Sport Football Saturday. 1085 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 2: A forty eight yarder for overtime. 1086 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 9: Good snap, good placement, kick on its way, It's got 1087 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 9: the leg. 1088 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 10: It is through four three and we are going to 1089 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 10: oh t he's still all right. 1090 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 2: That's BYU Radio one oh seven point nine FM. So 1091 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 2: BYU A five and sixteen, two and six in the 1092 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 2: conference on the road against Oklahoma State and they are 1093 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 2: now tied in overtime thirty four all. So keep an 1094 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 2: eye on that game. But Cougar showing some life today 1095 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: after a very tough season this year in the Big twelve. 1096 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Football Saturday. We're coming you 1097 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,479 Speaker 2: live from the Tirak dot com studios. Shortly after the show, 1098 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any 1099 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. 1100 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. 1101 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: Be sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. 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All right, Washington and Washington State still 1105 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: tie twenty one. 1106 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 5: All. 1107 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: We got a little over three minutes to go in 1108 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter in that game, and as we mentioned, 1109 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: Florida State trying to undefeated, Uh they are without obviously 1110 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: their starting quarterback, Travis went down with that gruesome leg injury. 1111 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 2: By the way, we never actually got a full report 1112 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: about that leg injury. Did you notice that, Ephraim, They 1113 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: just said, I mean all week long, I said, what 1114 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: exactly happened? We know his season is over, his career 1115 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: at Florida State. 1116 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 4: Is over, but no one said anything. 1117 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 2: They never gave us a specific on what the actual 1118 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: injury was. I mean, I know his entire left leg 1119 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: was pointed in the wrong direction, so that's that's never good. 1120 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 3: I wonder what happened with Zach Xenner from Michigan too 1121 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 3: the day. Was there any update on his injury? 1122 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: I did not hear an update on that. 1123 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,919 Speaker 4: Get caught it off. 1124 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, we've been getting the lot of guys hurt, unfortunately. 1125 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 2: I thought the game was supposed to be safer. 1126 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's a violent sport, brother. 1127 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 2: It is. Does it amaze you what was the most 1128 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: serious injury you suffered in your thirteen year NFL career. 1129 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 3: I tore all my car lage, broke both my hands, 1130 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 3: tore my labor. Yeah, you know Hernie eighty disc in 1131 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 3: my back, just stuff like that. 1132 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: But you retired, Yes, you weren't carried off the field 1133 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 2: for the last time. 1134 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: No. 1135 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm I want to stop now. 1136 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 2: Right, you'd put your time in and then, yeah. 1137 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 3: I put from. 1138 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 4: Twelve to thirty four. 1139 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: And how are you feeling now? 1140 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 4: I'm in pain every day, but you know I managed. 1141 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's get back you were before we 1142 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 2: were talking about these games tomorrow in the National Football League. 1143 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 2: There's going to be six early games. You're asking me 1144 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: about the Jacksonville Jaguars. To me, the Jaguars are very 1145 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: similar to the Detroit Lions right now. I want to 1146 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: believe in them. They sort of have breakout years last 1147 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 2: year and they are better this year. So they're both 1148 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. But that doesn't mean they're 1149 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: ready for prime time. The Jared Goff situation, I mean, 1150 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 2: they look bad against the Bears, and what was interesting 1151 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 2: about that game last week is that they came back 1152 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 2: to win. And Mark Schlereth joined us, and Mark, of 1153 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: course a three time Super Bowl champion, and I asked Mark, 1154 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 2: I said, Mark, we know this about good teams. Good 1155 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: teams find ways to win games. Many times they should lose, 1156 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 2: but they just figure out a way to win. And 1157 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 2: that's what the Lions did last week against the Bears. 1158 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Do you feel confident that the Lions have turned that corner? 1159 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, you know, because he was at 1160 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,919 Speaker 2: the game, he was working the game and everything else. 1161 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I think they're there. And then they completely lay an 1162 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: egg yesterday against the Packers, So I don't It takes 1163 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 2: there's a process to get there, and I think Jacksonville's 1164 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 2: in the same state. I think Jacksonville's improved. Are they 1165 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: good enough to beat the Ravens in a playoff game 1166 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,919 Speaker 2: or the Chiefs in a playoff game? 1167 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 4: No? Well, the thing they have is a quarterback. 1168 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 2: They do, but he still has been. 1169 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 3: But he's a real life if you look at him, Yeah, 1170 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 3: he's a real life. 1171 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 4: He's got it. 1172 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Well, he's got it, but he didn't have it two 1173 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 2: weeks ago when they got humiliated by the forty nine ers. 1174 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 4: No, forty nine ers are a different animal, you know. 1175 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: So, by the way, everyone's back on the brock party 1176 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 2: bandwagon again. 1177 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 4: Well, I never got off. 1178 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 2: And then he was wavering a little bit. 1179 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 4: No, I was all in on him. 1180 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Still, as long as he has all his weapons available 1181 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: to him, he'll spread it around. 1182 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 3: Any seventh round draft pick who's balling out, I'm with 1183 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 3: him period. 1184 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: Can I ask you this about MVP? So there's been 1185 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 2: an argument made for Miles Garrett. You know, he's putting 1186 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 2: up some amazing numbers. You also have a Dallas player 1187 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 2: that has five pick sixes this year, which is an 1188 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 2: NFL record. That's crazy, that isn't that is? And he 1189 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 2: still is what six games left games ago and he 1190 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 2: already has the record. And then you look at the quarterbacks. 1191 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 2: You look at a guy like McCaffrey and do it 1192 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 2: all running back, leading the league and rushing. Which way 1193 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 2: would you be leaning right now? 1194 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 3: The only way someone outside of a quarterback is going 1195 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 3: to win MVP in the league is if they shatter 1196 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: a long standing record. 1197 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 2: So if Miles Garrett gets to twenty three twenty four sacks, 1198 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 2: breaks the record. 1199 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 4: There's an argument for the for him to be the MVP. 1200 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 2: What about McCaffrey. 1201 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 3: If McCaffrey, you know, breaks the you know, all time 1202 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 3: scrimmage record, right because when you you look at when 1203 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 3: Marshall Falk did it, you look at when, Uh, who 1204 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 3: is it Sean Alexander. 1205 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 2: I believe well, Danian Tomlins said the touchdown record. He 1206 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: that's what he and Sean Alexander did. They set that 1207 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 2: touchdown record consecutive. 1208 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: So you have to you have to go above and beyond. 1209 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 3: If Tarik Hill can have over two thousand yards receiving, 1210 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 3: now you start talking about oh okay, well we have 1211 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 3: to take a look at this in terms of the 1212 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: best player in the league. 1213 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. So many different scenarios, 1214 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 2: so many different games, so much left on the NFL schedule, 1215 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 2: but right now we need to take care of business 1216 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 2: by bringing on to find out what is trending right now. 1217 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 2: The one, the only mister Ryan Finley that has a 1218 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: long day ahead of him. He's getting started here. I 1219 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: was gonna say, you're you're barely lunchtime for your schedule. 1220 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, we got that UCLA game coming up at seven 1221 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 10: thirty at the rose Pool and then our postgame show, 1222 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 10: brew and talk will probably get going until midnight. 1223 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 2: Do you get a lot of calls at that time? 1224 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 2: We do. 1225 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 10: We got a lot of calls after that lost to 1226 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 10: Arizona State, and then of course we had so Final. 1227 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 2: You get more calls after a loss than you do 1228 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 2: after a win, of. 1229 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 10: Course, of course, although after beating USC we didn't even 1230 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 10: have time to get to all of them. We probably 1231 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 10: had seven or eight callers that we that we had 1232 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 10: on So it's a very collar driven show. There are 1233 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 10: some that come in and call in every week. They're 1234 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 10: the lifers. 1235 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the regulars, Yes, I know those. 1236 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1237 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 10: So as far as what's happening in college football, obviously 1238 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 10: that game is going on. But the Pac twelve has 1239 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 10: the Apple Cup and it's twenty one to twenty one Washington. 1240 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 10: The number four Washington Uskies have the football and there's 1241 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 10: under two minutes to go in the fourth quarter against 1242 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 10: Washington State. The KuPS need to win this game in 1243 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 10: order to get to a bowl game. You would speculate 1244 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 10: early goings Florida and Florida State, no score there halfway 1245 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 10: through the first quarter, Stanford falling behind early no surprise 1246 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 10: against number eighteen Notre Dame seven to three, five point 1247 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 10: thirty seven ago in the first quarter. We have a 1248 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 10: couple of games that haven't started yet, and then there 1249 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 10: was the improbable wins, including what number eight Alabama did, 1250 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 10: scoring a touchdown by way of the air, Jalen Milroe 1251 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 10: finding Jermaine Burton tucked in that right corner of the 1252 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 10: end zone, and that would end up being on fourth 1253 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 10: and thirty one or so a touchdown pass from Milroe 1254 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 10: found his man and number eight Alabama wins twenty seven 1255 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 10: to twenty four in emphatic fashion against Auburn, stunning the 1256 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 10: crowd and winning. Essentially that was actually Isaiah bond I 1257 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 10: should say the receiving catch there in the end zone 1258 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 10: with thirty two seconds to go in the fourth quarter 1259 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 10: that gave the Crimson Tide the lead. In the end, 1260 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 10: we have a second overtime happening in still Water. Number 1261 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 10: twenty Oklahoma State forty b yu has the football. They're 1262 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 10: trailing forty to thirty four, so our eyes are watching that. 1263 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 10: And then we did see number three Michigan thirty to 1264 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 10: twenty four winners against number two Ohio State, and you 1265 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 10: would think that they still won even though they maybe 1266 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 10: didn't sign Steel and so maybe it wasn't that big 1267 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 10: of a deal after all. But it's thirty to twenty 1268 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 10: four wolver Raine's victorious Blake corm two touchdowns on the ground, 1269 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 10: Kentucky upbending number ten Louisville thirty eight to thirty one. 1270 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 10: Race Davis, remember that name, thirty seven yards. He busted 1271 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 10: off a run into the end zone late in the 1272 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 10: fourth quarter to give the Wildcasts the stunning win and 1273 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 10: handing the Cardinals their second loss of the season. Number 1274 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 10: fourteen LSU the fighting Brian Kellys with a forty two 1275 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 10: to thirty come from behind win against the rudderless Texas 1276 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 10: A and m Aggis, and that included twenty one points 1277 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 10: scored for LSU in the fourth quarter. Jaden Daniels eleven 1278 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 10: carries one hundred and twenty yards this as the Tigers quarterback, 1279 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 10: and let's not forget he had the four touchdowns through 1280 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 10: the air as well. Number fifteen Arizona Drills Arizona State 1281 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,959 Speaker 10: fifty nine to twenty three. 1282 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 2: Noah Fefeita. 1283 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 10: I'll tell you what, that's a guy that maybe next 1284 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 10: year has a send it back to you, Ephram and Steve. 1285 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 10: Next year or the year after, we might be having 1286 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 10: his name called as far as inside your top five 1287 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 10: as a Heisman candidate. Five hundred and twenty seven yards 1288 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 10: passing for Jedfish and the Wildcats and four touchdowns through 1289 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 10: the air and as U C l A fans. We 1290 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 10: know how good no Flafita is because he took down 1291 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 10: the Bruins with his passing heroics. Ephrom and Steve I 1292 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 10: sent it back to you, is, I can't believe I'm 1293 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 10: saying that UCLA lost to Arizona State given the way 1294 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 10: they showed themselves today. 1295 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Well, and that was the game when Rifley, so everyone 1296 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: was thinking it's over for Chip calling and then they 1297 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 2: got to play against USC. I mean, I mean, I mean, 1298 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: what a debacle for USC. I mean, they're they're They're 1299 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 2: back to Clay Helton days. Worse than that. 1300 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 4: It's so disappointing. 1301 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 3: The fan fare, the expectation, the hype, the the hope. 1302 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 4: Well, I think at the end of the season was 1303 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 4: through the roof. 1304 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Remember they started six and oh they finished seven and five. 1305 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 2: They should have lost. They could have lost all six 1306 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 2: games down the year. Remember the only game they won 1307 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 2: was that one point game against cal mcaw won for 1308 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 2: a two point of version instead of kicking the extra point. 1309 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 2: So not that again. Lincoln Riley, you know, for Lincoln 1310 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. 1311 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 10: I said this on Brewin Talk the other day. I said, 1312 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 10: Lincoln Riley is the guy at the gym, who obviously 1313 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 10: is all invested in offense. He's only interested in going 1314 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 10: into the gym on the upper body. No, if you 1315 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 10: want to have a full compliment and the best version 1316 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 10: of yourself, you can't forget about the defense or. 1317 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 2: The leg days. He's a one note coach. He's Cliff Kingsbury. 1318 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 2: How many times do I have to say this? Lincoln 1319 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Riley is Cliff Kingsbury. He's a one note coach. Cliff 1320 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 2: Kingsbury had a losing record with Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech. 1321 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 2: He had Patrick Mahomes. He had a losing record because 1322 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 2: of Patrick Mahomes. No, no defense. 1323 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 10: Steve, You and I could probably rush that offensive line too. 1324 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 10: The USC has softest team ever. 1325 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 2: My father passed My dad was a USC grad, passed 1326 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 2: away five years years ago. I mean, he would be 1327 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 2: so aghast, not just at losing games that normally you 1328 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 2: would win, but the way they're losing. They're just the 1329 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 2: softest US team ever. The offensive line for USC. 1330 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 10: When I watched the game and their performance against UCLA, 1331 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 10: I thought for a second, and I really did believe this, 1332 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 10: that the Trojans the day before held a tryout for 1333 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 10: offensive linemen at the local YMCA and just said, hey, 1334 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 10: any five. 1335 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 2: Guys, we need you. 1336 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 10: You're gonna play tomorrow, because obviously that's the kind of 1337 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,640 Speaker 10: effort we saw out of them. 1338 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I never saw it coming. I thought, 1339 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 2: after the way UCLA lost Arizona State, that's it. SC's gonna, 1340 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 2: you know, rise up final game for you know, Caleb Williams. 1341 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 2: And they didn't show up. And Caleb Williams course has 1342 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 2: played his final game at SC. By the way, Florida 1343 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 2: right now knocking on the door, Florida State got a sack. 1344 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 2: By the way, we're in the first quarter of this game. 1345 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 2: Florida State without their quarterback, Jordan Travis. They have negative 1346 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 2: seven total yards so far in this game. Ephraim negative seventh. 1347 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: They have no. 1348 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 4: Offense rivalry games. 1349 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, unfortunately for them, without their quarterback, it's going 1350 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,879 Speaker 2: to be a tough haul because even if they somehow 1351 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,839 Speaker 2: get past a five and six Florida team again, Florida 1352 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 2: is fighting to get to six and six and make 1353 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: themselves Bowl eligible, then they would have to get past 1354 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 2: Louisville next week in the ACC Championship game. I don't 1355 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 2: see it happening. I think we can eliminate the Florida 1356 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: State talk. 1357 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 4: Okay, if you say so. 1358 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm trying to be honest. 1359 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 4: I know I got you. 1360 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback right now? All right, once again, 1361 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 2: comingy alive from the tire rack dot Com Studios. This 1362 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 2: is Fox Football Saturday. By the way, here here's one 1363 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 2: of my favorite stories, sort of slipped through the crass. 1364 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, Cam Rising, the quarterback at Utah that ended 1365 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 2: up not playing this year. He's coming back for his 1366 01:10:53,400 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 2: seventh year at Utah. Seventh year he keep this up. 1367 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,639 Speaker 4: He's gonna be playing at Utah with his son. 1368 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 2: Now here's the amazing thing. People don't remember this. He 1369 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 2: actually started his career at Texas. He redshirted as a 1370 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 2: true freshman of Texas back in twenty eighteen. But he'll 1371 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 2: be back in twenty twenty four for his degrees. Some 1372 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 2: of us wish we could have done that. You know, 1373 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 2: I think I was going to try to come back 1374 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 2: from a six year and my dad cut me off. 1375 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 4: He said, now you're done. 1376 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 2: Five is enough, son. You need to get out in 1377 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 2: the world and actually figure out a way to make 1378 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 2: a living out there. All Right, we continue on. We're 1379 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 2: talking a little NFL as we keep our eyeing this 1380 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 2: Washington Washington State game. So here's where we are right now. 1381 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Washington has the ball, it will within filgal range and 1382 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: they're driving right now. 1383 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 4: Thirty seven seconds left on the clock. 1384 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 2: And they are just going to try to run down 1385 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: the clock. I'm looking here. Washington State has one time 1386 01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 2: out remaining, but Washington is down to the sixteen yard 1387 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 2: line of Washington State twenty four seconds. Penix throws, How would. 1388 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 4: You ever throw the ball in that situation? 1389 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 2: On first down? Not only was it almost intercepted, it 1390 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 2: also stops the clock. 1391 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 4: Why would you ever throw the ball there? 1392 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,719 Speaker 2: Now Washington has the time out remaining. I have no idea, 1393 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 2: but he threw that behind the receiver. Penix has not 1394 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 2: been accurate in recent weeks, so I had to drop 1395 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 2: him off my list. Now. If he beats Organ next week, 1396 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 2: he could be on my final Heisman ballot. But he's 1397 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 2: just not throwing the ball well right now? 1398 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 4: Why are you jumping? Oh my god, that was a 1399 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 4: bad throw all right? 1400 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,600 Speaker 2: So second down four? Oh, look at Washington State there, like, 1401 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 2: did he actually throw the ball? Why are they throwing 1402 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 2: the ball? You're in field goal range you're right now 1403 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 2: looking at a thirty three yard field goal to win 1404 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 2: the game, and he's throwing again and he got sacked. 1405 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 2: Am I missing something here? 1406 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 4: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. 1407 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, they moved back the team 1408 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,719 Speaker 2: as far and the clock is winding down the final 1409 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 2: seconds now five or they're going to call a time 1410 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 2: out with five seconds to go. 1411 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 4: Forty five yard field goal? 1412 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 2: Now, what the heck is going on here? 1413 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,560 Speaker 4: This is bizarre. 1414 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 2: You had a timeout remaining. All you had to do 1415 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 2: is maybe run the ball into the middle of the 1416 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: field where every kicker wants the ball. Instead they almost 1417 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 2: throw a bick and when he gets sacked. 1418 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 4: You dropped back twice. 1419 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 2: That there's the craziest thing I've ever seen. 1420 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 4: Does it get you fired? 1421 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 2: This de bor guy has had an unbelievable record over 1422 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 2: the course of his coaching career. Incredible, all right, So 1423 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 2: Washington is going to have a field goal attempt coming up. 1424 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 2: So third and nineteen now third and nineteen. Oh, this 1425 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 2: guy already missed from forty three yards, so they don't 1426 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 2: have a great kicker. 1427 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 5: You had a. 1428 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 2: Thirty three yard field goal. 1429 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 4: Good luck with that. 1430 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 2: I mean what were they thinking? 1431 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 4: They weren't they were not thinking. 1432 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, all right, you got away with 1433 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 2: it on the one pass. Now you're not going to again. 1434 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, So this is officially going to be a 1435 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 2: forty two and a half yard field goal. Should have 1436 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 2: been from thirty. 1437 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,440 Speaker 4: Three yards to stay undefeated. 1438 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 2: This is it. Five seconds to go in the game. 1439 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 2: The kick is up, and the kick is it's a 1440 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 2: timeout time out Washington State. The kick was good, by. 1441 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 4: The way that you know what that means. 1442 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Did you see earlier with the Ohio State kicker right 1443 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 2: before the half he decided on it. 1444 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 4: After after it was like snap it anyway, noled at. 1445 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 2: Fifty yards and then how did it go on the 1446 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 2: real kick? 1447 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 3: The next the next kick made a left turn, the 1448 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 3: ball is flying in the air. 1449 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 4: Was like, oh, hey, not chosen right. 1450 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 2: Every time I watch a kicker, all I'm thinking about 1451 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 2: is going to the driving range, right. You know, you'll 1452 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 2: have that one perfect drive and then you're feeling a 1453 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 2: little cocky and then you overswing a little bit and 1454 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 2: then you hook it. All right, So here we go. 1455 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 2: We're going for the what it's going to be a 1456 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 2: game winning field goal for Washington twenty one all against 1457 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 2: Washington State. Washington is set for the PAC twelve championship 1458 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 2: game against Oregon next week. Here we go, the kick 1459 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 2: is going to be, the snap is up, the kick 1460 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 2: is up, and the kick is got it good and 1461 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 2: there are zeros on the clock. Washington has defeated Washington 1462 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,799 Speaker 2: State twenty four to twenty one, by the way twelve 1463 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 2: and oh for the first time in school history. What 1464 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 2: a PAC twelve championship game that's going to be next 1465 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 2: week in Vegas. We continue on. This is Fox Football 1466 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Saturday from forty. 1467 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 10: Two yards for the Boeing Apple Cut for twelve and 1468 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 10: oh for the State of Washington. 1469 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 4: Green. 1470 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,679 Speaker 5: The snap mckellister to hold. The kick is on the way, 1471 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 5: The kick is up the end. 1472 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,560 Speaker 10: Of right tick right down the middle the Clucket spires. 1473 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,800 Speaker 8: Washington has done it. 1474 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Graaty crosses the Hero and Washington. 1475 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 4: He's twelve and home. 1476 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 2: That is Tony CASTERERSONI from lair Field. And that was 1477 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 2: the rap on Washington getting to twelve and zero winning 1478 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 2: the Apple Cup, defeating Washington State by a score of 1479 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one. So also our progressive play 1480 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 2: of the day brought to my progressive insurance. 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We have of course Beef 1490 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 2: Abrim Finley doing the up dates and well Lorena is 1491 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 2: running the board masterfully. By the way, did you have 1492 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 2: a nice Thanksgiving? 1493 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 4: Lorena? 1494 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 2: You know, Steve, I was here most of today with 1495 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,879 Speaker 2: my lovely Fox Sports family and it was absolutely amazing. 1496 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 2: But you know what I was missing on my Thanksgiving? 1497 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 4: Green Bean castrole. 1498 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that your favorite? Not any Thanksgiving? 1499 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 5: It's not the same without it. 1500 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 3: You know. 1501 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 2: I haven't had green Bean Castle in a while, but 1502 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 2: I love it every time it's there. I made it 1503 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 2: all for myself, so you brought your own today. I 1504 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: made a whole thing of it all to myself for wow, 1505 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 2: and how is it? Oh my god, it was so good. 1506 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: I didn't even eat any Okay, everyone has a little 1507 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 2: different spin on their green bean castle. What would be yours? 1508 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 9: You know? 1509 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 2: I just try to follow the recipe on the back 1510 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 2: of the French onion can. Probably a smart thing. There's 1511 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 2: a reason that recipe has been so successful, sir, so 1512 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 2: many years. That is amazing. Well, Lorrain, I'm glad you're 1513 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 2: enjoying your green bean castle. By the way, here from 1514 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Salamon comes to Thanksgiving. Does the cooking, the cleaning you 1515 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 2: do it all on Thanksgiving? 1516 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,440 Speaker 4: I do. I just didn't do it this Thanksgiving. 1517 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 2: Now enjoying that right there. Unbelievable day once again. By 1518 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 2: the way, I was looking this up. Kaylin Debor, the 1519 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,920 Speaker 2: coach at Washington who just finished twelve to zero as 1520 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 2: he heads into the PAC twelve Championship game. Over his 1521 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 2: coaching career now has a record of one hundred and 1522 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 2: two and eleven. 1523 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. 1524 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 2: One hundred and two and eleven. Now, if you don't 1525 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,719 Speaker 2: know his background, he was the head coach at Sue Falls, 1526 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 2: which is Annaia School, for five years and won three 1527 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 2: NAIA championships, and he went to Fresno State for a 1528 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 2: year and a half and then at Washington. By the way, 1529 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 2: his record of Washington is twenty three and two, which 1530 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 2: is pretty good. So Washington, Oregon. When we think about 1531 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 2: next week from as we will be sitting here getting 1532 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 2: ready for that Pack twelve championship game, the final, I 1533 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 2: would say PAC twelve Championship game. Is that safe to say? 1534 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 2: Or what do you think the future of the PAC 1535 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 2: twelve will be after the season with just Oregon State 1536 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,639 Speaker 2: and Washington State remaining? 1537 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 4: You mean the PAC two? 1538 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,679 Speaker 2: The PAC two, they have the rights of the PAC twelve. 1539 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean who's going to join? 1540 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, and some people were talking about a merger with 1541 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 2: the Mountain West Conference, but that's not going to make 1542 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 2: you a Power five conference. There's a reason that the 1543 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 2: Mountain West is not a Power five conference. So if 1544 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 2: you flood the PAC twelve with Pack Mountain West schools, 1545 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily elevate them to Power five status. 1546 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what uh so what do you do? 1547 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, if you're Oregon State in Washington State, I don't know. 1548 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Do you have a schedule set for next year? 1549 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 4: No, you don't. 1550 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 2: They don't have a schedule. By the way, who do 1551 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 2: you want to see is your next Sandygo State coach? 1552 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,520 Speaker 4: Azar abdul Rahim. He was a dB. 1553 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 3: When I when I went to school there, and he 1554 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 3: was one of the assistants in Alabama under Nick say Ben. 1555 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 3: I believe he's at Boston College now. I think he'd 1556 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:05,679 Speaker 3: be tremendous for the program. 1557 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So if they came to you and say, look 1558 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 2: at hey, from we really need your help. We'll pay 1559 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 2: you a couple million a year take over the San 1560 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 2: Diego State program. Any interest, No, no, no, we've seen. 1561 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 3: The biggest thing is you got to get somebody in 1562 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 3: there who's really gonna be offensive minded, who's gonna really 1563 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 3: be able to recruit a quarterback and receivers, because that's 1564 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 3: what made. 1565 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,000 Speaker 4: San Diego State great, right right. 1566 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 3: I was just watching highlights from ninety six and we 1567 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 3: would just scoring points by the truckload with Isaza Kiem 1568 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 3: and Will Blackwell and George Jones, myself, Kyle Turley. Now 1569 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 3: we're scoring three points a game. I'm done. 1570 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 2: Brady Hook's retiring there, but we have to go keep 1571 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,799 Speaker 2: it here on Fox Sports Radio,