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Speaker 2: Good morning swere then welcome to the New Dunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm J.

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Speaker 2: Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as

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Speaker 3: Must be the off season because those cold opens are weird.

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Speaker 2: I like that one thought you so this song is

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Speaker 2: good over making the magic hap and finding these weird

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Speaker 2: cold open super producer jd Ai Banger, I think things.

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Speaker 3: Good fluff.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get into model trains or I had

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Speaker 2: No? What about like model cars?

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Speaker 2: the show that are NBA sickos like yourself. We have

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Speaker 2: Ability has been an issue. He's averaged thirty three missed

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Speaker 2: But okay, but even he missed games, and that was

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Speaker 3: Well, they were average. They were top ten offense that

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Speaker 3: They weren't running their offense if you just watch them,

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Speaker 3: But I don't really think they need a point guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is on paper. I did enjoy watching them

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Speaker 2: can leave Chris Dunn exactly, and like even Derek Jones

436
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: Junior to something extance. So like, yeah, it's always like this, like, yeah,

437
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 2: you love to have the defensive minded guys out there,

438
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: but oh, if they can't hit a shot or they

439
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: have no confidence in hitting a shot, then just teams

440
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: completely forget about them when you get to the playoffs.

441
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: But obviously can help you win a lot of regular

442
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: season games, and you need defensive guys, as we just

443
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: talked about. That's what the Sons are hoping to now

444
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: get around their Devin Booker. But yeah, on paper, the clips,

445
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the depth is pretty impressive.

446
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we didn't even mention brook Lopez now

447
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: coming off the bench. They have a ton of depth.

448
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a little bit worrisome that now

449
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: you're you're starting backward. It's hardening Beale. Those are your

450
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: most likely those are your two guys. You got to

451
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: stop the ball, period. I mean, they have to be

452
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 3: the that point of defense right off the bets. So

453
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: I wonder how that works just period. But you're right,

454
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: and that Chris Dunn was being left and they had

455
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: to bend him eventually, they had they had to decide

456
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: what we're doing here. So I have a lot of

457
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: try and Tyler to figured all that out. But to

458
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: have now a backup guard and excuse me, a backup

459
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 3: big and Brook Lopez who can go fight Jokic, I mean,

460
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: I think I think this the secondary tier below okay

461
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: See has gotten so much stronger. We'll get to Houston,

462
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: and we'll get to Denver and now this Clippers along

463
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: with a Wolves team that went to two straight conference files.

464
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: Exciting stuff.

465
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 2: So if you have okay See as a clear top

466
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: tier Western Conference team, your sounds like you're putting the Clippers.

467
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: Uh maybe you always were, but especially after these offseason

468
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: moves sort of in that that second bunch with all

469
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 2: those squads.

470
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Speaker 3: You were going through, Rockets, the Wolves, I mean, yeah, yeah,

471
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: I have to throw Denver in there and Houston in there.

472
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited about those two Minnesota. I suppose it should

473
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: be has to be there. They went to two straight

474
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Speaker 3: conference files. The Clippers, I think I can't. I'm a

475
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: little like you. I can't. I can't. I can't right now.

476
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: I just watched them lose to this Denver Nuggets team.

477
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: I think they're in in Tier three. Okay, but that's okay.

478
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: It hard.

479
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I guess played a huge part in like recruiting Bradley

480
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: bal like come play for us, because there were other

481
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: teams like obviously calling Beale and his representatives like, hey,

482
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: we'd be interested in you. At five or six million

483
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: per year. There's a role here, you know. Again, I

484
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: think once Miami made the deal ironically with the Clippers,

485
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: that they were probably out of the Bradley Beal sort

486
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: of sweep stakes because they got Norman Powell and maybe

487
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: went that direction instead. I don't think you need both

488
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: these guys at Powell and Peal. So yeah, in the end,

489
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: he goes there. He has a relationship with Tylou being

490
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: a Missouri guy.

491
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know.

492
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, again, you're gonna feel great if Bradley Peel

493
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: plays exactly like he did last year. In only paying

494
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: him five or six million, you're good. You're gonna feel good.

495
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: And it's a contract year for him too. That's the

496
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: other part him and Harden right with player options, that's

497
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: also good for guys like this. Uh, you know, he

498
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: probably wants to play really well, get his value back

499
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: up across the league. People think, you know, he's a

500
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: bit of a joke and has been blamed for what

501
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: happened in Phoenix. He still thinks like, I'm a better

502
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: he's an He still believes, of course, that he's an

503
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 2: all star, borderline all NBA player. I guess only made

504
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: one All NBA team, but a couple All Star appearances

505
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: there in Washington, so maybe he has a bounce back here. Yeah,

506
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: I will say, but they all have to be healthy,

507
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: these guys, because Kawhi is always hurt, Beal's always hurt.

508
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Harden's was an iron man last year and he's.

509
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: Been an iron man, and I do think he's just

510
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: going to want to get guys involved who are coming

511
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: off the ball. So Bradley Beal is perfect for that.

512
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to bring up the ball hard and

513
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: is fine doing that.

514
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, tru you say that, Like wasn't that a bit

515
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: of an issue in Phoenix, Like it was like he's

516
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: sort of the third guy on this like ball dominant

517
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: team with Katie and Booker, and it's like he's sort

518
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: of going the same He's going to a team that

519
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: he's the third guy, clearly the the guy.

520
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah right. Yeah's what's wrong with this is just a

521
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: totally different locker room. These guys come out to play ball,

522
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: and Kawhi is your guy, and you have to follow

523
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: your leader. Kawhi brings it every single time he's out there.

524
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: Will he be out there? That's the question. Will he

525
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: start on October seventeenth, on like year when he started

526
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: in January and actually was able to play through the playoffs.

527
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 3: Big difference. So with a lot of questions there, Bradley

528
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: Beilt was good in year one with Phoenix. I know,

529
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: it's it's seems like a long time ago. He was

530
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: shooting forty three percent from three. Unfortunately, he had to

531
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: be the number one defender on the outside and so

532
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 3: that was his job. But he was, you know, wasting

533
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: all of his energy or spending a lot of energy

534
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: on the defensive end, and then he had to come

535
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: up and he was the third option, but he was

536
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: fine with that. He was able to send it, just

537
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: pass that ball. But I don't know the whole locker

538
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: room thing, whether it's not all on Bial, it's on

539
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: a bunch of other guys too, and so.

540
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: You just think it's going to a better situation.

541
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Speaker 3: All Yeah, it was. It was a great battle against

542
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: Denver so those seven games. But everyone is healthy. Everything

543
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: Going to do that again next year, I don't.

544
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: Know, all right, So hopefully that's the last time we

545
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: talked about this summer, at least until we start getting

546
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: into previews for the next season. Let's keep it moving here.

547
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: At Tuesday's Board of gov meeting in Las Vegas, Adam

548
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: Silver told reporters that league owners have instructed the NBA

549
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: to conduct an in depth analysis when it comes to

550
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: league expansion. This was the hot topic task quoting Silver here,

551
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: a lot of analysis still needs to be done, and

552
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: nothing's been predetermined one way or another, and without any

553
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: specific timeline. Again, that's Silver on Tuesday. He's previously hinted

554
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 2: at expansion as a possibility, but it always had been

555
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: lower on the league sort of priority lists, like first

556
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 2: they had to get the whole new CBA and then

557
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: you had to get the new media rights deal. But

558
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: after that we all assumed, okay, it's expansion time. And

559
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: then he was even helped out even more with all

560
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: these teams being sold for record breaking numbers, like oh

561
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: my goodness, you know Celtics and the Lakers, and it

562
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: was like, okay, it were only you know, mirror. It

563
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: feels like months away from him saying we are expanding,

564
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: but he's sort of slow playing it here and saying

565
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: all this analysis has to happen.

566
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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, Well, I think you're in league

567
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: with FIBA. Happens first before they expand. I think that

568
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: is their primary focus. They want to expand the game

569
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: in Europe. That's the most important thing. I think what

570
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: we see here happening with the CBA is that a

571
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: lot of these teams have lost their regional sports networks

572
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: have suffered because of it.

573
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: And he did bring that up, this uncertainty behind local TV,

574
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: like we can't just go into like these new markets

575
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: and new expansion with like when we have half these

576
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: other local TV markets that are like, you know, going

577
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: bankrupt or struggling or what are we doing?

578
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? True, Yeah, So I think the CBA is going

579
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: to pay all of those teams that have lost money

580
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: because of it. That's what happens first and foremost. Then

581
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: we figure out the TV slash app situation, whatever's happening

582
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: with Amazon in your Peacocks and all that. I wish

583
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: I was just in those meetings. We get to go

584
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: to Summer League for the first weekend, then all the

585
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: hardcore stay. Why don't they send us an invite to

586
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: hang out on Tuesday. I would love to be in

587
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: those meetings just to see how it goes. I don't

588
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: have to report on it. I don't have to. I

589
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: don't have to be a sonographer, but I would love

590
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 3: to hear it and figure out what's going on. But

591
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: I do think it's well, there's so many European cities

592
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: out there that can benefit from the NBA's popularity. I

593
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: don't know how deep I want to go into saying

594
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: there's G League players out here. There's so many players

595
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: here in secondary leagues that could go play in these

596
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: random European teams as well. I think there's a lot

597
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: of that. I don't think it's going to become dilute,

598
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: and I'm not worried about thirty two teams here in

599
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: the NBA diluting it. But I do think he's right

600
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: in that the NBA is good in the way they

601
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: have these touch points and making sure fans get out

602
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: in European cities. I think that happens. That happens first

603
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: before Anaheim or Vegas or Ani.

604
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: Why would I say, yeah, I mean, we all believe,

605
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: at least it's generally perceived that it's going to be

606
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: Seattle and Las Vegas as the expansion team.

607
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how I have Anahem in my

608
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: head for some reason, but anyway, it's a Seattle in.

609
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: Vegas, which if that is the case Seattle, Las Vegas.

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: Last I checked Western Conference teams, which means we'd have

611
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: an imbalance between the conferences, which means in theory, one

612
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: of these Western Conference teams would probably have to be

613
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: moved over to the Eastern Conference. You know, you'd have

614
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: thirty two total teams and then you'd want sixteen in

615
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: each conference if we're sticking with conferences. So who moves

616
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: East tests because it feels like, you know, it would

617
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: be either Minnesota, Memphis, or maybe New Orleans. Those I

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: think are like the three like sort of most easterly

619
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Western Conference teams. Yeah, And it even came up when

620
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: we were at the Hoop Collective Live podcast shouted out

621
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: to Wendy von Temp's and McMahon put on a great

622
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: show in Vegas. They had as a special guest Mark

623
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Laurie and Alex Rodriguez, and it came up. Now, they

624
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: couldn't really like answer that, like, yeah, it came up, like, Hey,

625
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: you're the Minnesota Timberwolves owners. Now wouldn't you love to

626
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: move to the Eastern Conference Get the hell out of

627
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: the West where it's like you need forty eight wins

628
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: just to even sniff the playoffs. Yeah. Again, they sort

629
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: of like danced around the question, couldn't really say much,

630
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean if I were them, I would

631
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: want to move East. Or if I were the Grizzlies

632
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: or the Pelicans.

633
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, I'm with you, it would be nice. Yeah,

634
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't have a leader of the three teams as

635
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: to who should forget?

636
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Should you, as just a diehard basketball fan, which team

637
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: of those three Wolves, grizz Pels would you just love

638
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: to see move to the Eastern Conference more than the

639
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: other two.

640
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: I'd want to see one of those the smaller markets. Well,

641
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: they're all small markets, I mean the southern ones. I'd

642
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: say Memphis or New Orleans.

643
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 2: Interesting, I thought you would say for balance reasons of

644
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: the three teams right now, at least, I know things

645
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: change quickly in the NBA. The Wolves are the best,

646
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: so when you want to move, that's still a really

647
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: good team over to make another good team in the

648
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. Yeah, I think that by the Great Lakes there,

649
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, that's the route.

650
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: I think that is the road. I'm being totally biased

651
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: in being closest here physically to Memphis and New Orleans,

652
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: so I would not Yeah, I think Minnesota. You're right

653
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: in that, get a strong team to the Eastern Conference

654
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: for a little bit more balance.

655
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: I was also thinking about it, at least with many

656
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Memphis Ne Orleans. It's like I wouldn't want I don't

657
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: know why. This is probably just me, but if any

658
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: of those three teams had NBA championships. Now, I know

659
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: Minneapolis as the Lakers way back in the day, Okay, okay,

660
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't count. We're not kind of that. I'm saying

661
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: these teams, the Wolves, Gris, and Peals, if they had

662
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: an NBA championship, I would for some reason be like, nah,

663
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: don't move them out of a conference. I don't know why.

664
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you got to stay there. You're like

665
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: locked in your grandfathered in now. But that's not an

666
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: issue here. So it's almost like it it doesn't really

667
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: matter to me. It's like, yeah, all right, they don't

668
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: have a championship in the Western Conference.

669
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I would be a stubborn Hey,

670
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: your resume says you want a championship in the Eastern

671
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: Conference or the Western Conference this instance. Yeah, I'm with you.

672
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: And maybe that's why I'm taking Memphis and New Orleans

673
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: who've had even less success. Yeah, well, you know, Minnesota

674
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 3: hasn't won, so it doesn't really matter. I don't care

675
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: about me in Minneapolis, nor do I know.

676
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: But let's hear from you. Which team would you want

677
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: to see move from the west to the east if

678
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: we were to add Seattle and Vegas? Is it? MANI?

679
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: Memphis and New Orleans. I maybe we'll got to pull

680
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: up on our social media channels there for that one.

681
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: I think I don't know what people are gonna say.

682
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: I guess my gut says they do say the Wolves,

683
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: because it's like, why not take a good team out

684
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: of there and bring them over? But maybe I'm wrong.

685
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Moving on, Despite plenty of speculation about his future, Lebron

686
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: James appears content with his current situation with the Lakers.

687
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: Braun reportedly hasn't spoken to the Lakers about a buyout

688
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: or a trade, and he's expected to report to training

689
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: camp with the team, according to The Athletic. So he's

690
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: there in Vegas. You know, at first, he wasn't. Oh

691
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: he's not here. He usually shows up. But he was there.

692
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: He caught Ronnie. He's sitting court side, he's taking photos,

693
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: he's doing the whole thing. But it sounds like at

694
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: least for now, he's gonna be committed here to playing

695
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: at least the start of the season with the Lakers

696
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: and Luca.

697
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: He's playing eighty two games, he's playing the whole season

698
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: with the Los Angeleskers. No, I don't know if he's

699
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: playing the eighty two games.

700
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: I just mean he's not full seas.

701
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going anywhere. This is a story. That's

702
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: not a story. It is he's if he wanted to leave,

703
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: he could have done it before the season. Why exercise

704
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: your player option for fifty plus million and then get

705
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: bought out? That is bonkers. That's not going to happen.

706
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: But there were reasons about the speculation of Lebron being

707
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: unhappy the rich Paul Well I would say there was

708
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: four reasons, you said. The first one he opted into

709
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: his fifty two point six million dollars contract with the

710
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Lakers in June, but did not demand a one year

711
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: extension on his contract. He's always done that in the past,

712
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: so that people had some of us going on. That's interesting,

713
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: And the Lakers reportedly didn't offer him an extension either,

714
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: So was that then, you said, his agent, Rich Paul

715
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: came out made some comments about the Lakers trying to

716
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: contend while also building for the future that raise some eyebrows.

717
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: The other thing is the guy that he plays with now,

718
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Like Luca getting traded to the Lakers gave oxygen to

719
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: any rumor imaginable, right, because it's like, oh, Lebron James,

720
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: you could be move if Luca got traded, Well, Luca.

721
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: Might not even stay there if you want to give

722
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: some oxygen. Apparently the Lakers aren't all that sold on

723
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: giving Luca every single dollar this offseason. Sure, yeah, well

724
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: sure by Lakers stories.

725
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: In conjunction with that, it's like Lebron for the first

726
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: time is not the main guy on his team, right,

727
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: That's a fact. So there's that, And then the final

728
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: reason like for this like speculation, as I'm calling it,

729
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: just boredom. I'm part of the media, right yeah, Like

730
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: and the fact that Lebron will be entering this will

731
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: be his eighth season with the Lakers, which would be

732
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: the longest consecutive stretch for Lebron with one team of

733
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: his career. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you just

734
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: get to this point where I'm like, Okay, that's enough.

735
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: And everybody's like, oh, what if he laught? What if

736
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: he left?

737
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he left after seven with Cleveland, then came on back.

738
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: But I don't think he just says, hey, give me

739
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: this fifty plus million dollars and decides, you know what,

740
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: I don't like this. I know he doesn't add another year,

741
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 3: but there is the possibility that he stays for one

742
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: year and then yeah, this time next year he signs

743
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: for a VET minimum probably not, but signed somewhere else,

744
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: goes to Cleveland.

745
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: Also, he is playing twenty three, twenty four. What's he

746
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: going into his twenty third NBC?

747
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty three, yeah.

748
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: Laughing because it's like we just we talk about him, like, well,

749
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: he's got good seven years left and I'm still you know,

750
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: you don't see how many franchises he plays for. Yeah,

751
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: that's he could be retiring suit is my point.

752
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: But right, and that's the thinking in that maybe he

753
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: wants to end his career, which could be at the

754
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: end of this year year somewhere else or else in

755
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: a chamberland Cleveland makes sense obviously to me if you

756
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: want to play play that game, because Cleveland didn't win

757
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: without him, they were the number one seed. But they

758
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 3: just got destroyed to some degree in around number two,

759
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: so it sort of makes sense and that they haven't

760
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of success. This isn't a repeat of

761
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: Ken Durant going to Golden State Warriors. This would be

762
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: a situation where they need something. I'm going to go there.

763
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: But he took the money that he deserves, and so

764
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: it's difficult to get fifty million dollars to Cleveland right here,

765
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: right now. If he had signed way cheaper, that'd be

766
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: a different story. But now, I don't think he is

767
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: picking up Savannah the kids and going to Cleveland or anywhere.

768
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going. I don't think he's going anywhere.

769
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: So you'd believe, though, if you're a betan man, that

770
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Lebron will play what two more seasons then before he

771
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: hangs it up? He play, So let's year with the

772
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Lakers and then potentially a final one either with La

773
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: or somewhere else.

774
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm never going to get into his head. I do wonder, though,

775
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: how many seasons? What is the number that he wants?

776
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Because I'm overreading this and I'm you know, I'm playing

777
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: astrology here, reading into the new numbers a little bit.

778
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: It's fun to do that, because does he want to

779
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: end with twenty three, the same number as Michael Jordan

780
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: and him, or does he want to up it sort

781
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: of like Kobe used to do wearing twenty four? You know,

782
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: does he want to get twenty four in there? I

783
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: don't think it. I don't think all of that matters.

784
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. That's just the fun part to me,

785
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: because I don't want to read into oh, Lebron wants

786
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 3: to go X go here because for whatever reason, because

787
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: he wants to win a championship. I guess elsewhere I

788
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: think I think.

789
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: Jason ghost Man, Yeah, he's got to win two more championships.

790
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it would it would mean more if

791
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: it was in la I know, It's it's l A

792
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: and it's different now he's already won in two other franchises,

793
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: but it would feel it would feel a little cheaper

794
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 3: going it and finding that fifth one somewhere else.

795
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: Right, he did win in l A too, Yeah, the bubble, but.

796
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, three he's one. Yeah, he's won three places. Yeah,

797
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: it just win with four different franchises. Is that cooler

798
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: than No?

799
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: I think he's done enough cool things.

800
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done. Uh listen, he could have taken if

801
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: you if you want to play, ah, you want to criticize,

802
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: you can say he could have taken less money this year.

803
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: He could say, no, no player option, give me two

804
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: VET minimum and we can go sign somebody else. There

805
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: will be more money.

806
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, yeah, what he brings into a franchise.

807
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean he's like probably underpaid, but like he's also

808
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: not a scrub. He's like he's still an All NBA

809
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: talent the Wild twenty three. So yeah, but if he's

810
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: not doing that, but if he was.

811
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: You know, air quote chasing ghosts, then he could have

812
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: chased it, chased it harder. By this, this man is

813
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: a billionaire. He doesn't need the fifty million dollars.

814
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean, people already hate Lebron as it is like

815
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Lebron haters like that would just give them more fuel

816
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: because it'd be like now he like he is the

817
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: definition of like just chasing rings to get to a

818
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: number to try and match Jordan. If he were to

819
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 2: do that, no, I knew you could say the flip

820
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: side as well. He wants to win, that's all he

821
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: cares about whenever.

822
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: And he's taking and he's taking way less money. That's

823
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: all the argument of a lot of fans out there saying, wow,

824
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: he is not what.

825
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he's still one of the best players. He

826
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: should be paid accordingly.

827
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm not arguing that he's what he should be paid.

828
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: But if you're a fan and you see if guys

829
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: take way less money, take fifty million dollars less than

830
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: he could, you'd say some would say, oh, very noble

831
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: of him.

832
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, some would say Others would say, oh, that's pathetic.

833
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: Well that's social media, it's very pathetic. But if he

834
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: want to win, that's that's an option.

835
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Well, he could win with Luca on his team here too.

836
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's why he's staying there. I agree that he's

837
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: not going any good team. Listen, Deandraden's gonna be out right.

838
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the Lakers like the third seed last year. Yeah,

839
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: sort of forgotten.

840
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

841
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: It is another piece of news talking contracts. The Pelicans

842
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: plan to fully guarantee Zion Williamson's salary for the twenty

843
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: five to twenty six season. If the Pelicans had played

844
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: Zion on waivers before Tuesday, they would have been on

845
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: the hook for only a portion of his thirty nine

846
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: point four million dollars salary for the upcoming season. The

847
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: final two seasons of his contract would also have been

848
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: wiped off the books, but that's not happening. Tasks. Yeah,

849
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: fully guaranteeing Zion Williamson's salary here, And this is something

850
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: I remember us talking about, Yeah, you know, earlier this season,

851
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: this like weird, this sort of weird contract that he

852
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: has because of his extensive, extensive injury history and all

853
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: of these like sort of like stipulations that that you

854
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: can sort of get in and out of money and

855
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And I think we even kicked around

856
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: the idea like would the Pelicans actually you know, not

857
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: fully guarantee this and explore you know, waving him and

858
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But they're still in the Zion business,

859
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: is what you're saying here.

860
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kicked it around, and only twenty percent of

861
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: his salary next year was guaranteed before July fifteenth. That's right,

862
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: because he likely met all of the waiting requirements. But

863
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: the way in checkpoints, the way in check point, Yeah,

864
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: he had six way in checkpoints. And now that's the

865
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: only one of the stipulations he met because the rest

866
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: are all games played related, So if you play half

867
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: the season, you get forty percent of your paycheck for

868
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: the following season. So it was only partially guaranteed. It's

869
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: very likely that he weighed in properly and below his

870
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: the number that they throw out there, because he was

871
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: the lightest he's ever been, but they wouldn't comment on that.

872
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: The Pelicans have not commented on that. Will Gilory wrote

873
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: this on the Athletic. Didn't he didn't include that because

874
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't commented on, But that was probably what he met. Now,

875
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: those final two years after next year still not guaranteed.

876
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: No, not a dollar. It's sort of like it rolls over, right,

877
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: does sort of keep doing this?

878
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he only played thirty games last year, so yeah,

879
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: I think we we kicked it around in it. I

880
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: wondered if they would just literally let him go, which

881
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: sounds bonkers because he is Zion Whims And that being said,

882
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: will we see him play enough to warrant not only

883
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: this year but two more years on his contract? Which, yeah,

884
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: they go year to year to year. Every year is

885
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: a question, right, Every year is just I mean, when

886
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: he plays amazing, he is ridiculously good in those thirty games.

887
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: He was awesome.

888
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. The stats are mind boggling. Yeah, and

889
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: then the year before that was the healthy, the healthy

890
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: so to speak here for Zion until right until the end, yeah,

891
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: of the season. Most of the other seasons have been

892
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: like it was last year. He doesn't play a lot,

893
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: and that's why they have this contract, in these stipulations

894
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: and all of like you said, these not only the

895
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: way in checkpoints to get a certain percentage of the

896
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: salary fully guaranteed or moving on. But then yeah, games

897
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: played as it ticks up, if you hit forty one

898
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: games played in the previous season, and then if you

899
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: hit fifty one, and then if you hit six sixty

900
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: one plus, it's like that all comes into account here.

901
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: But they're staying in the Zion business. I think this

902
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: is like the right move. I guess he does seem

903
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: to appear to be in the best shape of his life. Yeah,

904
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: he just got to hope he can play sixty plus

905
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: games at the very least. That's like a low bar.

906
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: I know, like it'd be amazing if you could play

907
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: the amount of games it takes to maybe make an

908
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: All NBA team, maybe be in the running for whatever

909
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: type of awards.

910
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: You know, any new tattoo. I'm wondering if you go

911
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: because last year he got that that thing on his

912
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: back over his back.

913
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Well I was gonna say, would

914
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: you be concerned putting too much ink on your body

915
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: weighs you down for I don't know, I don't know

916
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: how much tattoo ink ways on the human body, but

917
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: it's got away something a little bit, so don't get

918
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: too much. So anyways, Ion staying there and they're you know,

919
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: they're I mean, I know we're going to get into it.

920
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: We get into best and worst trades of the offseason.

921
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: I think the Pelicans might come up, but they they

922
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: are in trading an unprotected draft pick next season twenty

923
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: six because they wanted to move up this year. They're

924
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: sort of saying, like could we we want to be

925
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: competitive now. You know, you're sort of like you're not

926
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: saying you're gonna be bad or they're believing you're not

927
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: gonna be bad.

928
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: No, here in Atlanta, you want them to be bad.

929
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: Right that they get that very rare pick swap where

930
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: you would get the better of two random teams Milwaukee

931
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: and New Orleans, so the more favorable detected.

932
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean that means you could have

933
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: the number one pick, like if Pelicans struggle or play

934
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: and all.

935
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: This, Yeah anyway, and yeah, lottery, they could be the

936
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: fourteenth worst team and you could still win it. What

937
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it's a lot of event.

938
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: It's crazy. All right.

939
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 4: Well let's talk about the real back tattoo. We'll add

940
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 4: three two to three grams max.

941
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay, to your weight. So still something if you're trying

942
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: to get under a particular yeah weight, Yeah, is.

943
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: That a max? Like when you say back tattoo, is that.

944
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 4: If you had your entire tattooed, it would weigh about

945
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: two to three grams.

946
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: That's exact most.

947
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: That's the same as a paper clip, Okay, or a raisin. Okay,

948
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: this is good. I need to hear this. Yeah, so

949
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: it does nothing. I'm gonna say, add something to your weight,

950
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: but it's got to be a full back piece.

951
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what exactly. The thing he got last year

952
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: was top to bottom of.

953
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Well there you go. You had it a raisin. Try. Okay,

954
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: let's get into NBA off season superlatives here. I want

955
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: to quickly hit you and the listener and the viewer

956
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: tasks just with some of the big deals we saw,

957
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: just to refresh your memory. So June fifteenth is when

958
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: things really got underway. Grizzlies moved Desmond Bane to the

959
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Magic for KCP Cole Anthony and a number of first

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: round draft picks and swaps. Then on the last day

961
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: of the season, you know it was on Game seven,

962
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: the Sons traded Gefen Durant to the Rockets for Jalen

963
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 2: Green and Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick and five

964
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: second round picks. We had the Celtics and Blazers swaping

965
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday for Amperty Simons. A day later, the Celtics, Hawks,

966
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: and Nets finalized a three team deal that moved Porzingis

967
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: here to Atlanta. We had the Wizards trading Jordan Poole

968
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: to the Pelicans for CJ.

969
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: McCollum.

970
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: The Sons traded for Hornet center Mark Williams. The Bulls

971
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: traded Lonzo Ball to the Calves for Isaac Occorro. The

972
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: Nuggets traded Michael Porter Junior to the Nets for Cam Johnson.

973
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: We had that three team deal that got Norman Powell

974
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: to the Heat, John Collins to the Clippers, and then

975
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: we've had a few sign and trade moves as well,

976
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: most notably the Hawks getting to kill Alexander Walker from

977
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: the Wolves and the Pistons getting Duncan Robinson from the Heat.

978
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: A bunch of other smaller deals. But that's just like

979
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: a general look at the bigger names that moved this offseason.

980
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask you, and I ask everyone

981
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: here best trade of the off season in your opinion.

982
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little lumping. Okay, I want to

983
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: lump the Rockets move and the Nuggets move because they're

984
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: just that little tier below. Okay, see in an off

985
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: season here where obviously, okay, see feels like they're gonna

986
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: win forever. But we were here twelve months ago when

987
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: everyone was saying, oh, Boston's gonna win forever, it didn't happen.

988
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: So the fact that Houston goes and gets Kevin Durant

989
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: with a team that just needs a guy that they

990
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: can rely on to score, now I am concerned a

991
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: little bit about how much they're gonna get to the rim.

992
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: All these all these guards. It doesn't matter. Fred Vanvliet

993
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: doesn't really get to the rim. Kevin Durant's not a

994
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: rim guy. Although He's gonna score no matter what. A

995
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: men Thompson's probably gonna take a step in that direction.

996
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna drive his heart out, especially with guys stretching

997
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: the floor. So I am concerned about that. But them

998
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: going after Okay see as well as Nicole getting Cam

999
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Johnson beside him is a great move. Michael Porter Junior

1000
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: wasn't great defensively number one. I mean, he kept fighting offensively.

1001
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: But Cam Johnson's I think, a superior player on both sides,

1002
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: on both sides of the floor, Cam Johnson is damn

1003
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: good defensively. He is thirty, so he is. I guess

1004
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: we're seeing the best of Cam Johnson. But I'm thinking

1005
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't think enough people saw the best of Cam

1006
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: Johnson last year in Brooklyn. They just didn't see it.

1007
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: He's good offensively. He's different than Michael Porter Jr. In

1008
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: that he can put the ball on the floor and

1009
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: get to the rim and finish. And so when all

1010
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: the the focuses on either k or Jamal Murray or

1011
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon who had a hurt but hurt slash hamstring

1012
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: in Game seven against Okay, see those three guys plus

1013
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, I think they're gonna they're gonna be really good.

1014
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: Like the teams that were like a tier behind okay See,

1015
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: really going for it here to challenge the Rockets trading

1016
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: for Kevin Durant, which you know cost him some players

1017
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: but not a lot of draft capital, and a part

1018
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: of that that's his age and obviously you know his

1019
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: expiring deal and stuff like that, and they got so

1020
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: much depth. Yeah, and then you like the Nuggets and

1021
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: that deal, trading Michael Porter Junior for Cam Johnson.

1022
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: I just love teams going forward in basketball. Those are

1023
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: good just to keep sewing in against okay See, who

1024
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: you can't win every year. You can't, although you know,

1025
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: okay See is freaking good and they're doing it way

1026
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: younger than all NBA teams. Frankly maybe either they're winning

1027
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 3: championships with such young guys, so they're gonna be up

1028
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: there for a long time there, So rock steady, but

1029
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: you can't win every year. No, I like these teams

1030
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 3: going forward here.

1031
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: One of my favorite trades is the Nuggets training Michael

1032
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Porter Junior for Cam Johnson. Now it did also cost

1033
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: them an unprotected future pick, like in twenty thirty two.

1034
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: I want to say which sounds like a fake year,

1035
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: but that's what they had to attach to MPJ to

1036
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: get Cam Johnson. But still, yeah, both those guys who said,

1037
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: when you look at it, they're numbers last year. MPJ

1038
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: and KM Johnson very similar, like eerily similar in terms

1039
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: of scoring, shooting the three ball, you know, sort of

1040
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: across the board. But man one makes way more than

1041
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: the other guy, and Denver needed that sort of that

1042
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: help on the books there to go do other things, right,

1043
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: They ended up going to get Bruce Brown back in

1044
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: the mix. They made this Valentunis trade. Looks like he's

1045
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: going to be their backup center, you know, after swapping

1046
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: Dariusarz for him. But that idea that Michael Port Junior

1047
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: making thirty eight million and then eventually forty one million,

1048
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: where Cam makes twenty one million and then twenty three,

1049
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: Like that's what we're talking like half the contract almost

1050
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: for what I believe the equivalent value on the court,

1051
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: if not more when you consider the defensive capabilities Cam Johnson.

1052
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: So that's a that's a bit of a no brainer.

1053
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: I thought that was good work here, I think and

1054
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: also you say, like no one really knows how good

1055
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson is fair because we played in Brooklyn. You're

1056
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: gonna find out, especially he still might level up despite

1057
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: his age because now he's playing with Jokic. There's that

1058
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: whole part of the equation too. Yeah, where everyone suddenly

1059
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: looks better.

1060
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's got a ton of confidence to be

1061
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: that sporting. He's got the pedigree. It's not championship deedgree,

1062
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: but the pedigree of getting to an NBA Finals with

1063
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, where he was a guy. He was

1064
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: the guy, you know, beside mckelbridge's to guard the other

1065
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: team's best player. So that's monstrous for this Denver Nuggets

1066
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: team overall. Yeah, plus their bench. Yeah, great moves here,

1067
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: taking advantage of the Brooklyn Nets that needed to get

1068
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 3: a draft pick because they just need to get something

1069
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: to keep going in the in the direction of tanking.

1070
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: So they took advantage of that perfectly. Yeah.

1071
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: What about the worst trade of the season.

1072
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: We're sitting here thinking about Drew Holliday going to the

1073
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazers. When it happened, I thought, okay, okay, it's

1074
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: an investment in a guy who didn't have a really

1075
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: good year, But you need some sort of older veteran

1076
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: that is a freaking champ, two different teams. But now,

1077
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: after seeing the medical records for the Phoenix Era from

1078
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: the Portland trade Blazers gave up anfrety Simons plus two

1079
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: second round picks for jew Holiday. Now they got those

1080
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: two second round picks back because of these medical records

1081
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: that they found for jew Holiday. Now they weren't they weren't.

1082
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: Hold on the trade was Drew Holiday and eventually two

1083
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: second round picks to Portland for anthorty Simons. Was it

1084
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: not because of Drew Holiday's health issues that the that

1085
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: the Celtics then had to add I'm clarifying here.

1086
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: No, No, it's the other way around. Why Why Because I thought.

1087
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: The trade was Drew Holiday for anforty Simons. Okay, they

1088
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: agree on that, let's shake hands, okay, But then they're

1089
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: like they start looking at Drew Holidays like medical records

1090
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: and maybe his health status, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

1091
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: whoa are you giving us damaged goods? Here's yeah, maybe

1092
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: we are. Okay, well you got to throw in more stuff,

1093
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: so you got to throw in two second round picks.

1094
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: That's how I know. I thought, No, no, no, The initial

1095
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: deal was you got to give us Afrety Simons plus picks,

1096
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: and now they get to keep those picks. Wow, okay,

1097
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: yeah because the.

1098
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh I see what you're saying. You're saying keep those picks.

1099
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because those medical records are not good. That's

1100
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: the medical records weren't bad enough to say, hey, we

1101
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: don't want Drew Holiday, but apparently there's still stuff on

1102
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: there to say, okay, can you give us back those

1103
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: picks please. That's all it is. And you look at

1104
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: Drew Holiday and what he was last year. I know

1105
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: they's second round picks. It's not what I really concerned about.

1106
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: Well, I bring that up because we thought for the

1107
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Celtics to get off of Drew Holiday, they might have

1108
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: to attach picks. Yeah, let alone maybe even a first

1109
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: round pick is what we were considering at the time.

1110
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, they didn't have to do that, which is

1111
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: pretty good work.

1112
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, here's the graphic that you made. Yeah, once

1113
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: upon a time, but Drew Holiday had a bad Yeah,

1114
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 3: so they gave up second round picks and people were saying, yeah,

1115
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: come on, Drew Holiday didn't have a good year and

1116
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: you're giving up second round picks. Why why would you

1117
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: do that. I am a little concerned just about Drew

1118
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: Holiday medically because he did not look even like himself

1119
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 3: guarding Jalen Brunson in that second round. You know, he

1120
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: just wasn't himself, and so I think, obviously he can

1121
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: rub off very well. But you look at the number

1122
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 3: he can rub off on guys in that locker room,

1123
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: no doubt. But you look at the numbers, I mean,

1124
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 3: three times the dollars owed for Anthony Simons, because he's

1125
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: getting paid way longer than Anfrey Simon's upcoming expiring deal

1126
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: after this coming season. He's ten years older, he just

1127
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: had an off year. I mean, he's making between twenty

1128
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: and twenty five percent of the salary cap for the

1129
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: next few years and he's taken some of those young''s minutes.

1130
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: So that's a concern. It is a concern. Now looking back.

1131
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm seeing not breaking news here, but I guess Jake

1132
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Fisher was saying the Raptors made an aggressive offer for

1133
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday that they turned down, and it looked like

1134
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: it was going to be like the contract of RJ. Barrett,

1135
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: that the Raptors are going to be that team going

1136
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: after drewe to add to the squad seeing that right

1137
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: now out here.

1138
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Toronto Raptors have a bunch of guys that

1139
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: kind of overlap, and unfortunately r J. Barrett is one

1140
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: of them, and so that I'm not surprised that they

1141
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: would offer Aujre Barrett.

1142
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: Fisher stated that the Raptors dangled the idea of giving

1143
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: the Celtics the number nine overall pick in this year's

1144
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: draft in exchange for Derek White or Drew Holiday. Celtics,

1145
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: turned off by the idea of having to take on

1146
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: the contract of RJ. Barrett, instead went with the Anferny

1147
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Simons expiring contract after this coming season.

1148
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I don't want to go. Hey,

1149
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: the Toronto Raptors are the Phoenix Suns East. But it

1150
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: is a little bit of unfortunately, a little bit of

1151
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: we got all these talented guys, but they just aren't

1152
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 3: merging all together and brandon Ingram Scottie Barnes, Rjie Barrett

1153
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: and Emanuel Quickly. I mean that's it. He plays a

1154
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: different position. But guys that aren't healthy that are our

1155
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: scores and you know, some similar ways. So here we are.

1156
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: I do think the Raptors are gotta be better.

1157
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so I guess ultimately you're not loving the Blazers it.

1158
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if he's healthy, I mean healthy stuff. I

1159
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: mean it's you think you can throw that out the window.

1160
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be healthy. I think

1161
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: that's we watched him. He just wasn't himself last year.

1162
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm going for worst trade of the offseason. Sort of

1163
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: talked about it already, the Pelicans trading an unprotected twenty

1164
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: twenty six first round pick to the Hawks to move

1165
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: up from twenty third to I guess thirteenth in the

1166
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: twenty five draft, and that allowed them to take Derek Queen.

1167
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: They were very high on him, obviously wanting to move

1168
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: up to snab snatch him there at thirteen. But this

1169
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: was one where like the Hawks couldn't believe the Pelicans

1170
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: were offering an unprotected pick to move up ten slots

1171
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: in the twenty five drafts, and I think the Hawks

1172
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: were very happy to ultimately take it. Like according to

1173
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: reports they were calling, they were like, this can't be real, right,

1174
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: did we like did it get garbled on the phone

1175
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: when they was that protected instead of unprotected? We better

1176
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: call Joe Dumars like, no, no, unprotected. Wow. I mean again,

1177
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: the Pelicans are like thinking they're going to be okay

1178
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: and they're going to be a good squad again, but

1179
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: like that's very possible. They don't and they have a

1180
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: weird team as it is. And you know, I mean,

1181
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: if you were that in love with Queen, it's like

1182
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: people are like, why didn't you take them? Seventh? They

1183
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: took Fears, so they got a point guard. So they

1184
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: got two guys here in Fears in Queen and hopefully

1185
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: they're great players, but that could blow up in their face.

1186
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it really could. And then the Hawks again,

1187
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: like they got a guy they liked in Newell at

1188
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: twenty three, so that was a slick move by them

1189
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: to move back. But it was just more perplexing than anything.

1190
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: You don't see that all that often. No, in this

1191
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: now sort of the way that lottery can go. It's like,

1192
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: whoa man unprotected? Like even if it was like top

1193
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: four protected, just to cover your ass a little bit.

1194
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, Yeah, that New Orleans front office is

1195
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: a little puzzling after you know, hitting back to back

1196
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: shots here going after Jordan Pool just before that and

1197
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: then going to get Derek Queen, who's a Maryland boy

1198
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: who I you got to make the connection to Troy

1199
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: Weaver who's now running the front office along with Joe Dumars,

1200
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: who just likes taking guys from Washington. They just love it.

1201
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: And any any any sort of uh in that region,

1202
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: if you're from that region or you played on the

1203
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: Washington Wizards, you're getting trade to Droy Weaver's team. And

1204
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: it's just perplexing as far as their guard rotation. Like

1205
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: you mentioned Jeremiah Fears he looks good. Put him with

1206
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: Jordan Poole, Jordan Poole plus Johntay Murray. I don't know.

1207
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see if it works to John

1208
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: Y Murray as a really talented guy coming off an injury,

1209
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: and then you get into your really talented guys and

1210
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: Herb Jones's signed extension and Trey Murphy and.

1211
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: Then Queen now there. But can he play alongside Missy?

1212
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: He's Missy? I don't know, Like, is he more of

1213
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: a five a smaller ball five guy? I mean he's

1214
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: a great offensive player.

1215
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well if he is better, if he's better than

1216
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: even me, see, then he's gonna play over him because

1217
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: he means he was solid, but they really feel like

1218
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: Queen is another level. Yeah.

1219
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean I saw them play at Summerly. They tried

1220
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: them together. It didn't look back great for Queen, if

1221
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm being honest. But then the game where Mesia was

1222
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 2: out and Queen was like, they're big, they're alone big,

1223
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: it looked a lot better and he looked like the guy.

1224
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: That's like the reason they wanted to move up the draft. So, yeah,

1225
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: they'll have to figure out a summer league. I mean,

1226
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: sort of throw it out the window. I get all that,

1227
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: but they're the point of all this is like, you're

1228
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: not convinced the Pelicans are going to be a good

1229
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: team in the loaded Western Conference next year. Nobody is like,

1230
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: you're not putting them ahead of a lot of teams

1231
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: when we move into October November. So that means they

1232
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: could be in the lottery, which means they could have

1233
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: a chance to have a very high draft pick, which

1234
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: means it'll be going to Atlanta. All to move up

1235
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: ten spots is a hell of a roll of the dice.

1236
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, what about most surprising contract this offseason?

1237
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: I think you got to start with Miles Turner and

1238
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: wear a game that was a shock, as a big shock.

1239
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: We're sitting here at the desk to see number one

1240
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard wave. Yeah, that's the shock. I mean the

1241
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: wave and stretch, yep. But then to see Miles Turner

1242
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: go to Milwaukee for four years and one hundred and

1243
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,479
Speaker 3: eight point nine, which isn't a lot in today's NBA

1244
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: to be around twenty seven million per year to make

1245
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: Yannie's happy in a couple ways. Of course, they got

1246
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: to keep trying to make Yannie's happy by adding talented guys.

1247
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: But Yanni's having the ability just to play the four,

1248
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: and that's it is so good.

1249
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: For playing the four sounds like he's playing the one.

1250
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, John Horse leaning into the idea it's point

1251
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Guardian's time, Yeah yeah yeah, which she sort of does anyway.

1252
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah. We're a flashing back to Jason Kidd

1253
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: coach in them days. We're given Yiannis the ball, but

1254
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm more concerned on the defensive end where he has

1255
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: to play, had to play the five. We watched him

1256
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: against the Pacers in the first round and how Tyrese

1257
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: Haliburn ended that series against them. It was mainly because

1258
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: you got Giannis in space multiple times, and yes, as

1259
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: well as you possibly could. But to go that route

1260
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: for Doc Rivers to say, Yannis, you're our five, You're

1261
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna guard so much space because you know what, we

1262
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: don't have a center that can really do that anymore.

1263
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: And Brook Lopez was in't that guy. So Brook's gone,

1264
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: but Miles Turner is inserted and now Yannis doesn't have

1265
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: to do that, and so that boils out well for them.

1266
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: And I don't think twenty seven is all that much.

1267
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: Twenty seven mil per year.

1268
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: As well, but then you could look at it like

1269
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: it costs a lot more with what you add the

1270
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: dead cap money from Damian Lillard if you attach that

1271
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: to Miles Turner, which is the only reason they could

1272
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: do it.

1273
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is.

1274
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: And it's definitely, to answer this question, surprising because none

1275
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: of us had this on our on our Bengo card

1276
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: heading into the offseason, especially on a guy that was

1277
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: just in the NBA Finals. Did Miles Turner play all

1278
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: that well offensively? No, he couldn't hit a three to

1279
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: save his life, but obviously had an impact still on

1280
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers run to the finals, especially defensively. But for

1281
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: this Bucks team who came into the offseason everyone going like,

1282
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: what the hell are they gonna do? How are they

1283
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: going to keep you on? As happy to create enough

1284
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: cap space to sign one of the more expensive free

1285
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: agent centers on the market. That's pretty surprising, yeah, and

1286
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: pretty good work by them, and then have started to like,

1287
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, get a lot of their other guys back,

1288
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: and there are big question marks at the point guard

1289
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: position and Porter Junior and Rollins and the rest of

1290
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: the roster. But you know, they did get one of

1291
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: the biggest names that again we didn't even think would

1292
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: even hit the market. Seemed to surprise the Pacers themselves

1293
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: that he was even moving right, And it's definitely one

1294
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: of the more surprising contracts.

1295
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Apparently Kevin Pritchard, their GM, found out from Sean

1296
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: Shriana that Miles Turner agreed to leave. Now, you're right

1297
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: in that there's a lot of dead money on Milwaukee

1298
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: Bucks salary cap. But it's dead but it makes them

1299
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: feel alive, right, I mean, they have something to do now,

1300
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: they can make some other moves a little bit, a

1301
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: little bit, but I shouldn't say that, I should say

1302
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: it just makes him feel love like he had and

1303
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: he's has a guy beside him that he can play

1304
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 3: with all the time. But you brought up the names

1305
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: a Porter Junior, Ryan Rollin, and Kuzma. They know who

1306
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: they are at the five and the four, but they

1307
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: don't know who they are really at the one, two,

1308
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: and three. That's a lot of questions.

1309
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: What is dead may Never die?

1310
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, good one?

1311
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Game of Thrones? Remember that? What were they called again,

1312
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: JD help us out? What was that? The great Joys?

1313
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: Great choice? Thank you, That's what I was looking for.

1314
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1315
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the water ones. Yeah, they would like

1316
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: dunk them and that was their whole three drown them. Yeah,

1317
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: what is dead may Never die? Crazy? So like make

1318
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: a shirt with like I'm trying to think, like how

1319
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: you'd make a shirt with like Damon Liller's dead cap

1320
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: money with that slogan. There's gotta be somebody out there

1321
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: that could do it.

1322
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: Sure.

1323
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: Another surprising contract, maybe in a bad way, Dennis Shrewder

1324
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: agreeing to a three year, forty five million dollar deal

1325
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: with the Kings. I think it was a sign and

1326
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 2: trade in the end, if I remember correctly. But whoa

1327
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: what are the Kings doing?

1328
01:03:59,280 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: Man?

1329
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a weird one. And I like Dnisher.

1330
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: We like Denisher. I like that, sure, not really for

1331
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: that amount of money at this stage of his career

1332
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: on a team like the Kings that have a lot

1333
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: of guards as it is. It's just I mean, he's

1334
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: a weird point guard in the sense he's not like

1335
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: he's he's not like you're like pure table setting type

1336
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: of point guard. You know, he's actually really good at

1337
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: like scoring, attacking and you can that's why he's a

1338
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: really good sort of backup point guard at the stage

1339
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: of his career.

1340
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 3: Right.

1341
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: It's just an odd one to me, And it is

1342
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: a surprising for sure that he got that much.

1343
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: And that many years. Yeah, he's like his tenth team, right, Yeah,

1344
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: he hasn't spent two years in a row on one

1345
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: team since he was with Okay see a billion years ago,

1346
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: and so now three years to give him is questionable.

1347
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: Very talented guy like like him in these small doses, Yeah,

1348
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: but to have multiple years. He was obviously good with

1349
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: what he did with the Pistons. He was the sort

1350
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: of their secondary playmaker off the bench and it worked.

1351
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: But I signed multiple years, I don't know. I just

1352
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 3: like him in small doses. I like him in a

1353
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: World Cup tournament playing for our man. Gord Herbert, our

1354
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: Canadian coach who's moved to Germany. That guy was a baller.

1355
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: That guy played in the eighty four Summer Olympics. Gord

1356
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: played again. Not sure Herbert, Ah, Yes, just that's a

1357
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: strange He played against Michael Jordan anyway, that's weird. Another

1358
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: three year, forty eight million dollar deal. That was weird.

1359
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson. Who are they? Who are the Detroit pissings

1360
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: bidding against? Like, who is saying I'm signing Bacan Robinson

1361
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: to two for thirty or something. Then they're like, I'll

1362
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: give you a three for forty eight.

1363
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

1364
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: I know Duncan Robinson a very talented guy, but it

1365
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: seemed like he was overpaid with Miami and the and

1366
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: they're obviously replacing Michael beans Day waiting. Yeah, the m

1367
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: came out of my mouth and I thought I'll say

1368
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: the right one, but I'll always say Michael Beasle.

1369
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: I actually thought you were purposely doing it.

1370
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like saying Michael Beasley. Yeah, who are

1371
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: they baiting against? I don't that's the confusing part. It's

1372
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: not so much that you're paying Duncan Robinson sixteen million

1373
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: per year because he could pay off. He could. He's

1374
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: a talented guy and he can put it on the floor.

1375
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: But he just hasn't been consistent over the last couple

1376
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: of years. Maybe he's gonna stop podcasting, Maybe that'll help.

1377
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: He's been podcasting a bit.

1378
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: I will say in their defense, like, yeah, the Beasley,

1379
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, gambling investigation here and whether this guy even

1380
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: plays another second in the NBA for all.

1381
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: We know it's possible, very puch.

1382
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: That really put the Pistons in a tough spot. And

1383
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: I think they're like, we saw the success having shooters

1384
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: around Cad Cunningham and the roster we're building there and

1385
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: our young guys and our big guys. We saw the impact.

1386
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: It means we're a better team. Uh, and we're actually

1387
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: getting into the playoffs. So we got to sort of

1388
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: continue that. I can't fall off. Like Beasley was like

1389
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: the leader in three point like made basically it's like

1390
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: Korean him And I'm not saying Duncan Robins is going

1391
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: to replicate that, but you can least like say, well,

1392
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: you can see why they're thinking we gotta we gotta

1393
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: keep shooting out there, like Tim Hardway Junior is going

1394
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: on like, we gotta have threats that can fire away.

1395
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, yeah, it'd be nice for him to

1396
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: have a bit of a bounce back for them. But

1397
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: it's a lot of money. I'm not disagreeing with it,

1398
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: but this beasily whole thing really screwed them.

1399
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it just doesn't. It seems like the length

1400
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: of this contract for Duncan just seems like nobody else

1401
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 3: would have offered that, right. I don't think. I don't

1402
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: think there was a market for him.

1403
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: Final question, a little more silly. What's your favorite moment

1404
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: of the offseason? This doesn't need to be contract related

1405
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: or trade related or whatever.

1406
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Well, seeing an NBA player in a backwards hat playing basketball,

1407
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: and that's Jonathan Kaminga. The more interesting part is that

1408
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kminga was literally putting out videos. He literally was.

1409
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: He was like a like a fourteen year old like

1410
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: highlight mixtape kind of.

1411
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's putting out an audition tape essentially to other

1412
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: teams to say, Steve Kerr did not use me in

1413
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 3: the way I could be used. So this is what

1414
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: I can do see these videos like my hat take me.

1415
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 3: So that's that was the most interesting thing to me.

1416
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: We've been watching basketball for a long time. Off the

1417
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: top of my head, I can't remember end of the

1418
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 3: season before free agency. A guy is basically saying, this

1419
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: is my game.

1420
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: They check this out.

1421
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, an NBA player in multiple years and he is

1422
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: super talented. But we're still here. It's July seventeenth and

1423
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: no deal for him yet.

1424
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: Am I wrong to say the Warriors haven't done a

1425
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: single thing this offseason?

1426
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1427
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: I can't think of a single transaction. I know there's

1428
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a hold up because of this kaminga

1429
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: thing and obviously rumored to be in the Al Horford

1430
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: sort of race if he doesn't retire.

1431
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: Melton Milton, Like I don't.

1432
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: I think they're the lone team that has not done anything.

1433
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't think they have Gary Payne, the second remains unsigned. No,

1434
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they've You're right, and that's a weird one.

1435
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: They're in a weird spot with Comingo. But yeah, he's

1436
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: got the audition tape out there trying to show these

1437
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: other teams.

1438
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: Me man and roll Man. Yeah, are you still man? Yeah?

1439
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: This athleticism. Come on, pops off the page with a

1440
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 3: hat on. Has there ever been something like that? I don't,

1441
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember one. It really is coming from their agent,

1442
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,879
Speaker 3: right right, right right, show that like this. It's everywhere.

1443
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 2: I mean, we see the Ben Simmons mixtape every summer, like, hey,

1444
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: look at this guy who got a jump shot? This

1445
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: guy can hit three in a gym.

1446
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was already he was already signed.

1447
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know that's more for us the fans,

1448
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: Like you say, I never shoot, Well, look at this.

1449
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: All I do is shoot during the summer, out my

1450
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: shirt on.

1451
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: He should be putting out videos right now. He's not signed.

1452
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: He's not signed. That's wow.

1453
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, who wants?

1454
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: My favorite moment of the off season Victor wemen Yama

1455
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: having a ten days stay at a Shaolin temple in

1456
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: China and like all like the content we saw, especially

1457
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: when we saw that he shaved his head and then

1458
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: he was like in the robes. Then you're getting like him,

1459
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,959
Speaker 2: like doing like Kung fu poses parent he was practicing

1460
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: doing meditation. I read that he ate a lot of

1461
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: zucchini and rice noodles because it was like a vegetarian

1462
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: shallin Temple, But then I couldn't tell that this was

1463
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: a joke or not. I don't think it was like

1464
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: he had to like sneak out and eat like I guess,

1465
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: real protein, real meat to like get his weight up,

1466
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: because he added weight as well, but he probably wasn't

1467
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: going to add a lot of weight at eating zucchini

1468
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: and rice noodles. But this was pretty cool.

1469
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 3: It is pretty cool.

1470
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: It's like a seven foot four guy doing kung fu

1471
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: and like running around with them. It's awesome. Then there's

1472
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: like basketball highlights he's playing all like these short monks

1473
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But even cooler, it is cool,

1474
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: he said, quote My goal going there was putting my

1475
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: body through things that it's not used to doing and

1476
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: allowing my range of movement and strength. This was probably

1477
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: as very different as possible from what I'm used to doing.

1478
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: End quote. It's one beat. I love that man. Guys

1479
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: think outside the box. Cerebral playing chest exactly, doing kung

1480
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: fu and meditation.

1481
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: He does the splits when he stretches right.

1482
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's super flexible.

1483
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's brilliant.

1484
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: So that's not my favorite moment. Do you have any

1485
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 2: thoughts on Klay Thompson's new girlfriend Megan the Stallions.

1486
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: Making these Stallions. Yeah, looks like they're themselves.

1487
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: They have it's out now because there was that photo

1488
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: of her at a pool and like and there was

1489
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: a guy like sitting on a lounger in the back.

1490
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, is that Klay Thompson. I don't know if

1491
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: you saw this, I was like, what the hell's going on?

1492
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: Here?

1493
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: Are they hooking up? But last night of the night

1494
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: before they were at some award ceremony. It's a fish nice.

1495
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is going to be some sort of tie

1496
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 3: in Dallas Mavericks the Stallions. I don't know, Oh you know, okay,

1497
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, because they're they've got a great social media team,

1498
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: they're going to do some stuff.

1499
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: I saw her on an episode I'm not proud to say.

1500
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say it out loud. Saw Megan

1501
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: on the episode of Love Island this past season American version.

1502
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: She showed up to like host one of the games whatever,

1503
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: host one of the times where they all make out

1504
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: with each other. She's hilarious. I don't really know, Like,

1505
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: I don't really know much about her, Like, I'm not

1506
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 2: a huge fan of her music. Obviously heard her songs

1507
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Huge fan. Now she's so funny,

1508
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: so like confident, charismatic. She loved Love Island. She was

1509
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: geeking out like of course the contestants in there like,

1510
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: oh my god, like we love you, we love you,

1511
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: love you. She's like, no, no, I love you, and

1512
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: she like knew everything about the show. Became a fan. Cool,

1513
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: So I ship it. Clay and her. They look great together.

1514
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: He looked happy as.

1515
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: He should be. Yeah, any other favorite moments? Jad you

1516
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: got anything from again? This can be across the board.

1517
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: I enjoyed hanging out with the fans in Vegas. That's

1518
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: a nice answer. The y Where were the.

1519
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 4: Damn that was? It was blend together. Yeah, and the

1520
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 4: darkest room of all time where we did our show.

1521
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, fans turned out, they did, they did.

1522
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: I was happy.

1523
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: That part was fun. Yeah, that one part was fun.

1524
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: That was your only time you had fun in Vegas?

1525
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean the show was a bit of a

1526
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 4: it was. It was a heavy lift. I'll say that.

1527
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, I remember they told us to turn

1528
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: us did Did I tell you they told us to

1529
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: turn it down? I was right there when the guy

1530
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: came up and told him very nicely. Now, in the

1531
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: guy's defense, this was before the show had started. You

1532
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: played music as people came in, and I guess it

1533
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 2: was too loud.

1534
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pre show, trying to get the people hut

1535
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 4: hyped up. Yeah, add some caused some tension.

1536
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, they came in and they were like, yeah,

1537
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 2: like the music's too loud for all the degenerate gamblers

1538
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: that they're on the floor, you know, they can't hear

1539
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 2: whether they should hit or stay.

1540
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: That's it.

1541
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: That's sort of what he was saying. That's exactly what

1542
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: it was saying. So you had to turn it down.

1543
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: You had to turn it down. But you know, still fun.

1544
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: Did anybody gamble at all while in Vegas?

1545
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: Did you at all? I didn't know.

1546
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: A single second gambled.

1547
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 3: You know, does it? Does gambling get reduced because you

1548
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:04,919
Speaker 3: don't carry cash anymore?

1549
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably because I definitely don't want to go to

1550
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: the machine exactly ding on those fees.

1551
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, so fewer people carry cash. Yeah, there's two steps.

1552
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: If I had, you know, two hundred three and a

1553
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: bucks in my wallet, I would have been more likely

1554
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: to sit down on a blackjack table, But I.

1555
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: Got a Whitney Houston slot machine. Yeah, I'm doing it

1556
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: the random slot machines.

1557
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 4: Usually, like every year, we'll I'll make a point of

1558
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 4: bringing cash and I carry cash usually anyway, at least

1559
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: you know, one hundred bucks or whatever. Oh but yeah,

1560
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 4: we're walking by like a roulette table.

1561
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: You just slapped down twenty. Yeah, let's go. Why let's

1562
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: go twenty on.

1563
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 3: Black So yeah, so you had cash but you didn't

1564
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 3: just didn't do it.

1565
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't do that. Interesting. Yeah, well we saved money

1566
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: that way, or we could have left, Yeah, thousands on

1567
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: the table. We left hundreds in our wallet as we

1568
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: left Vegas. Yeah, the last we're in Vegas for the Cup.

1569
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: Didn't gamble all that much either, a little bit more.

1570
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: I think we played blackjack a little bit and I

1571
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: never played slots. But I was waiting before we left

1572
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: that one morning. You've seen it because we walk by

1573
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: it every time we'd go back to our rooms at

1574
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: Park MGM. That one Game of Thrones slot machine and

1575
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: right before we left again, this was back in the winter. Yeah,

1576
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: I threw like ten or twenty bucks into it, won

1577
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: the hundred bucks. Like, hey, great Joyce came through for me.

1578
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: All right, that crack came through exactly and I meant

1579
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: to do it again, but I forgot. Yeah, yeah, cool,

1580
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: cool story. I thought about playing money. I want to

1581
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 2: hear about my dream I had last night. Just kidding,

1582
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: just kidding.

1583
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 4: I actually I had won four hundred bucks last at

1584
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 4: the when we were at when we were there for

1585
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: the Cup.

1586
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're all. Did me win money on Oh no,

1587
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 2: no that I wanted to go on on tennis too

1588
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: two years ago. Yeah, yeah, I would have lost. I

1589
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: would have put money on El Karez. I thought about

1590
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: doing it, and then again, one of these things, I

1591
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: never run around to it. I would want for sure. Okay, great,

1592
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 2: everybody saved their money. They really respond. That's what happens

1593
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 2: when you like end up in Vegas for like the

1594
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: fourteenth or fifteenth time in your life. It's not as exciting.

1595
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: It really isn't.

1596
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 3: That's true.

1597
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: You're more, you're more, we're more into the shows and

1598
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: the food at that point. And the people saw the people,

1599
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: the people Jackson loved it. Oh yeah, your son go

1600
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 2: in Vegas like I love Vegas. We haven't even experienced. Yeah,

1601
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: you know. We took them out to dinner with the sights.

1602
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 2: You have some great meals, great meals. Saw the Fountains, Yeah,

1603
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: surprisingly worth it way shorter that show. I thought like,

1604
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: Then I thought, well, I looked it up and it's like,

1605
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: that's the average, like one song every half hour. They

1606
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: do the Bolagio fountains, just do that. It's yeah, Fank

1607
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: Sinatra song every fifty it was Frank.

1608
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: The hell song?

1609
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: Was it? Anyway?

1610
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: It was great, it's every fifteen minutes. But they the songs.

1611
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's different songs.

1612
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's a blast, but it is one song.

1613
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1614
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1615
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to, I'll tell you. You

1616
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: want to time it right, yeah, I don't want to

1617
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 2: wait around a half hour or fifteen twenty minutes, let's

1618
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: see it. But if you're just walking by and it's like, oh,

1619
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: this is starting in two minutes, then yeah, yeah, yeah,

1620
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: but you have no way of knowing that. I have

1621
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: no way of knowing, but it must be on the

1622
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was every thirty minutes, but maybe it.

1623
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 4: Maybe well maybe it's Friday and Saturday nights. It's uh,

1624
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: it's more often.

1625
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: The way you tell though, is like there's just a

1626
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: bunch of people yeah, like, Okay, there's a lot of

1627
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: people waiting here.

1628
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: What do you have to do that you got to

1629
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 3: rush out of there?

1630
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: Well, nothing, I gotta I gotta go think about playing

1631
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 2: the game of slop machine. I just gotta go stare

1632
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, oh, you're right, there's no rush. But well,

1633
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is. It's hot as balls,

1634
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: and I don't want to wait outside. I want to

1635
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: get inside. So I guess that's my answer.

1636
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 3: It's toasty.

1637
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's call it. There. Got some NBA news in,

1638
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: got some best and worst trades of the off seasons

1639
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: and contract signing talk. Let's hear from you with all

1640
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: of those questions and your opinions on expansion, which team

1641
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: should go to the East, your thoughts on Lebron, your

1642
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 2: thoughts on bial to the Clippers. We got one in here.

1643
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: Good job. NBA is still giving us stuff to talk

1644
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: about here in the dog days of summer. We'll be

1645
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 2: back next week from the Classic Factory, so make sure

1646
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: you subscribe, make sure you hit the like button, share

1647
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 2: the show, podcast listeners, five star ratings, and reviews until

1648
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: next week. Clipper Ros, you heard it here first. Have

1649
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1650
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember a back tattoo adds

1651
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: two to three grams of weight. I guess as JD said.

1652
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 3: What I'm surprised is you also said raisins add two

1653
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: to three grams or are two to three grams.

1654
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: That is just a comparison of what weighs two to

1655
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 4: three paper clippers.

1656
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because raisins are so dense, Like you brought up

1657
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: web needing to gain protein. If people need to gain weight,

1658
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 3: they often eat raisins. Eat raisins, yeah, because they're just

1659
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: I guess, because they're dried and they're dense. It's not

1660
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,919
Speaker 3: like eating a grape.

1661
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: So I think we have two pick and payoff ideas.

1662
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 2: One just eat a bunch of raisins. I actually wouldn't

1663
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: like that because I'm not the biggest raisin.

1664
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: I would do that first. And yeah, I actually ordered

1665
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: some grapes today.

1666
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: And grapes to let them dehydrate into raisin.

1667
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: Danielle when she's at the grocery store, get me some grapes. Okay,

1668
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: so that's an order. Yeah, but grapes not raisins. I

1669
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: love both, well, I love grapes.

1670
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't love her Anyway, The second option is loser

1671
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: has to get a giant back tattoo. Okay, we're talking

1672
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 2: the California Raising. Yeah. Embrace the weak people,