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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Jetty arm Strong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty enough Key, I'm strong.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't look like it's even going to work

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Speaker 2: on paper. But imagine trying to force those huge movements

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Speaker 2: of population or militaries in the real world in potentially

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Speaker 2: a continuing battlefield zone. That's the reality of the idea

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Speaker 2: of territorial swaps already flat out rejected here by Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: A tough political ask, an impossible military ask, you might argue,

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Speaker 2: and that really leads people so anxious here that as

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Speaker 2: the bedrock of these talks, potentially it's territorial swaps, and

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Speaker 2: that is impractical and unsellable here. What possibly could Trump

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Speaker 2: emerge from that meeting.

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Speaker 3: With that's CNN's reporting yesterday. I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 3: different reporting and a lot of different angles, of course,

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Speaker 3: because this came together really fast, and we have no

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Speaker 3: idea how it's going to go or really even what

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Speaker 3: the topic matter is going to be.

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Speaker 4: Let's discuss with Justin Logan, director of Defense and Foreign

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Speaker 4: Policy Studies at the Cato Institute. Justin's take might differ

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Speaker 4: somewhat from ours, but he has at least an idea

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Speaker 4: from judging from his recent piece of how a settlement

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Speaker 4: might look at the title of the piece is the

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Speaker 4: key to success at Trump puton Alaska summit on Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: Low expectations, Justin Logan joins us. Now, Justin, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 5: Just fine, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Low expectations, I think is absolutely an appropriate stance, as

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Speaker 4: we don't see much overlap at all between Putin's goals

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Speaker 4: for the territory of Ukraine and and Ukraine's certainly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the underlying and unhappy, unfortunate act of

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Speaker 5: the matter is that Russia is in a relatively stronger

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Speaker 5: position on the battlefield than Ukraine is, and that makes

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Speaker 5: Russia both more willing to continue the conflict and less

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Speaker 5: willing to compromise diplomatically. So Trump has a very difficult

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Speaker 5: task here, which is to see whether a piece can

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Speaker 5: be produced that isn't disastrous from Ukraine's point of view,

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Speaker 5: and that you know, as I said, the piece, we

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Speaker 5: should have low expectations. Even incremental shifts would be welcome

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that seems like one of the problems I've

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Speaker 3: been saying for the last couple of days is a

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Speaker 3: Ukraine is horrified with the status quo. Putin's okay with

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Speaker 3: the status quo. He'd be fine with continuing prosecuting the

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Speaker 3: war the way he is, So a nothing burger would

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Speaker 3: be good from his standpoint. How do you get around that?

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Speaker 5: No, that's exactly right. And you know, the Ukrainians have said,

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Speaker 5: you know, look, our constitution commits us to pursue NATO membership,

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Speaker 5: which isn't going to happen, and prohibits us from seating

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Speaker 5: any territory, including Crimea, which has already happened. So they're

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Speaker 5: sort of using this sort of legalistic argumentation to dig

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Speaker 5: in on a position that just isn't going to happen.

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Speaker 5: So I don't fault them for that. It makes a

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Speaker 5: this thing isn't really going to go very far, very fast,

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Speaker 4: One question we've been banding back and forth is whether

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Speaker 4: Europe will, as I put it earlier, find at least

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Speaker 4: How do you see NATO slash Europe's involvement in this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they are also digging in and not

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Speaker 3: So you don't do a lot of testical metaphors there,

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Speaker 3: Kato not nothing of radio. You know, this might end

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Speaker 3: But why I don't know where this goes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Lindsay Graham grappling with reality is progress

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Speaker 5: in international politics anyway. I mean, the bare fact of

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Speaker 5: it would be great if Ukraine, you know, regain all

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Speaker 5: But in politics is a brutal business. Ladder. Putin is

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Speaker 5: produce it? And I think look to you know, revealed.

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Speaker 5: You know, I thought that this was going to go

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Speaker 5: way worse, way quicker for Ukraine. So they have been heroic, right,

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Speaker 5: they have defended their territory. Right. I think no one,

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Speaker 5: It's not going to join NATO. So so we're revealing

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Speaker 5: there's more progress made today than I suspect, and we

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Justin Logan, director of Defense and Foreign

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Speaker 4: Policy Studies at the Cato Institute. Justin, if you were

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Speaker 4: to advise Donald Jay or any other leader about negotiating

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Speaker 4: with Putin, especially sitting down with Putin to negotiate, what

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Speaker 4: would you tell him about Putin and his methods.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, if you read the newspaper, I mean,

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Speaker 5: And we've revealed under President Joe Biden and under President

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Speaker 5: to be the sort of starting point of understanding what

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Speaker 5: we should do. And you know, to be honest, we've

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Speaker 5: I hate to be the sort of dark cloud here,

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Speaker 5: You know, we need to realize that we have limited

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, if you're dealing with Putin, you

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Speaker 3: don't stand next to any open windows. Secondly, I love,

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Speaker 3: I love dealing in reality. I mean, there's no advantage

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Speaker 3: you know, put up the fight to stop him? What

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Speaker 3: how do you deal with Taiwan and China? What's how

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Speaker 3: that here now it's your turn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's you don't want to be a

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Speaker 5: Like a porcupine, right, porcupines don't get attacked because they're

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, there are more things that Taiwan

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Speaker 4: capitals that Ukraine is merely a part of to tempt

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Speaker 5: That's a good question. I hate to make predictions. It

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Speaker 5: it's possible that he brings things to the table that

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Speaker 5: don't pertain to Ukraine, because as we sort of established

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Speaker 4: And I'm not quibbling with your your verbiage because how

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Speaker 7: The UFC will host the first ever White House Fight

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Speaker 7: on July fourth.

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Speaker 3: It's the first.

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Speaker 7: Violent beatdown to take place at the White House since

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, are they branding Rashida t lib As Harry.

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Speaker 3: I Ah, I'm not comfortable with that one. But that

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with it. She has a mustache.

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Speaker 4: she's also an American hating America hating Marxist.

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Speaker 3: Perfect a perfect background for the joke. But those are

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Speaker 3: It could be a history making meeting. I think there's

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Speaker 1: For now.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. First of all, this CNN, and I wasn't listening

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Speaker 3: I am the biggest freaking deal in this room, and

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Speaker 3: And sitting with every president Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden and

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just, he's his personality is just. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, not an accident.

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Speaker 3: And the embarrassing among the most embarrassing because George W.

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Speaker 4: All right, never mind that the reset button was the

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Speaker 3: And she didn't have the courage, leverage whatever she thought

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Speaker 3: that Putin does feel like he needs to respond in

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Speaker 3: some way to the US President to avoid worse things happening,

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Speaker 3: in terms of a return to full military assistance or

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Speaker 3: partial assistance, or potential sanctions. Another sign of Putin's potential

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Speaker 3: weakness are the Kremlins hurried preparations for the Alaska summit.

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Speaker 3: Putin usually prepares himself immaculately. He reads a lot, gathers

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Speaker 3: recommendations from experts. This time, the windows extremely short, and

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Speaker 3: they do not have a plan. A Kremlin insider told

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Speaker 3: the Washington Post. Right now there is a huge frantic

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Speaker 3: effort going on inside the Kremlin. So at least that

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Speaker 3: opinion piece the Washington Post, they're reading the fact that

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Speaker 3: he's meeting at all, and in such a short timeframe

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Speaker 3: as a sign of he needs this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how interesting. And from Putin's perspective, he's thinking, No,

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Speaker 4: we don't have a plan, we don't know what to expect,

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Speaker 4: but I want to go there personally. I will engage

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Speaker 4: in the judo and see what comes out of it,

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Speaker 4: will develop our plan from there. It's got to be

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Speaker 4: kind of exciting for the pooter. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 4: he's back at his KGB days. He is the agent,

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Speaker 4: He's not the bureaucrat. He's the agent again. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: as I said yesterday, and I have not changed my

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Speaker 4: mind about this. If you gave me five different scenarios

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Speaker 4: for how this plays out, or the five or so

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Speaker 4: I've imagined, I will put him at twenty percent eighth.

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Speaker 1: Just don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be something to sit down with somebody

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Speaker 3: who has ordered the murders of his own people, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking of the way he bombed that Chechen apartment

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Speaker 3: building to make it look like a terrorI stacked by

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Speaker 3: so he could invade Chechnya. He killed his own people,

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Speaker 3: and he's done that lots of times. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 3: got to be something to sit there with somebody like that.

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Speaker 4: Well, something his closest cronies end up plunging out of

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Speaker 4: windows if it's time for house cleaning.

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Speaker 3: But most of us, when we're dealing with somebody, we

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Speaker 3: believe they've got even if you don't trust them, you

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Speaker 3: believe they've got some sort of moral limit, as opposed

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Speaker 3: to sitting down with somebody who has zero moral limits.

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Speaker 1: Zero right, right?

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 3: That hold the picture of him with the dog in

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Speaker 3: Angela Merkle is like the way he's it looks exactly

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Speaker 3: like if you're gonna portray that in the Sopranos, the

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Speaker 3: way he's sitting there.

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Speaker 1: How about this?

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, And as we've said, I hope Trump is

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Speaker 4: ready to deal with somebody who's a master manipulator, utterly immoral.

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Speaker 4: I just why does Trump keep saying I think he

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Speaker 4: wants peace? I don't know, I mean he doesn't. He

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Speaker 4: only wants peace if it's peace because he's accomplished his goals.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's.

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Speaker 4: Mildly inconvenient to his you know, the fiscal health of

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Speaker 4: his government. And Russia does not have an limitless time

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Speaker 4: horizon to accomplish what they want to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: They do have problems, but it's.

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Speaker 4: Counting on him to just want peace because oh my god,

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Speaker 4: there's been enough killing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So we got a breaking clip here. So Trump is

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Speaker 3: on the plane flying from Washington, d C. To Anchorage.

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Speaker 3: It's thirty four hundred miles and he just came out

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Speaker 3: and said something to reporters on Air Force one. Here

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Speaker 3: it is, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 1: Back to take questions.

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Speaker 9: We saw that Russia continued as violence into Ukraine last night,

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Speaker 9: launching even more drones.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of that?

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Speaker 6: I think they're trying to negotiate. He's trying to set

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Speaker 6: a stage. I mean, in his mind that helps him

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Speaker 6: make a better deal. It actually hurts him, But in

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Speaker 6: his mind that helps him make a better deal if

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Speaker 6: they can continue the killing. Maybe it's a part of

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Speaker 6: the world. Maybe it's just his fabricus, gens, his genetics,

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Speaker 6: but he thinks that makes him gives him strength and negotiating.

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Speaker 6: I think it hurts him, but I'll be talking to

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Speaker 6: him about it discussion.

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Speaker 3: This is so interesting. Has Trump finally reached the I

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Speaker 3: understand who this guy is? Point? And like, you know,

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Speaker 3: and and and and even if that's true, it's like,

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Speaker 3: how did it take you so long. But I mean

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Speaker 3: Trump is despite what they say on MSNBC in braces places,

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Speaker 3: he's no dummy. He's not he's on a punk. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a smart, ruthless businessman and he's certainly surely he

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Speaker 3: can handle that sort of situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: My only quibble with that is that I think any

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Speaker 4: of us who've known a lot of different people, achievers

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Speaker 4: and go getters and wheelers and dealers, is there some

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Speaker 4: people who are very, very capable in certain areas, but

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Speaker 4: they have blind spots. And there are times that I

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Speaker 4: think Trump has blind spots.

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Speaker 3: But you think he has a blind spot with negotiations

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Speaker 3: he's been doing in his whole.

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Speaker 4: Life with megalomaniac Russian would be is ours.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, God, he's probably had to deal with lots

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Speaker 3: of megalomaniacs building casino, but they're.

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Speaker 4: Motivated by completely different things. I think Trump has an

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Speaker 4: oversimplified view of leverage.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, I was thinking that yesterday. I thought this

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Speaker 3: for a long time. A lot of business people I

541
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Speaker 3: know are like this. There's only one thing that matters,

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Speaker 3: profit or making more money. That's the only thing they

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Speaker 3: can think about, and feelings or morality or all kinds

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Speaker 3: of things go out the window. It's just what's going

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Speaker 3: to make me the most money. And he can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: Nationalism or philosophy.

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Speaker 3: Or he can't imagine anything mattering more than making more money,

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Speaker 3: and like wanting to institute Peter the Great's land mass,

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Speaker 3: doesn't make sense exactly or even just rational goals from

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Speaker 3: Trump's point of view, re establishing the Soviet Empire, why

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Speaker 3: the hell would you want that?

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Speaker 4: A lot of it is crappy. Yeah, you know you're

553
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Speaker 4: already too far flung. Your treasury is bare. Why don't

554
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Speaker 4: you just concentrate and make good deals and make more money.

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Speaker 4: You're overexpanding. That's dumb.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't understand irrational motivations.

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Speaker 4: Getting back to the clip about Putin continuing the attacks

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Speaker 4: and stuff like that, again, I don't know. Sometimes Trump

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Speaker 4: postures just to posture, and he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: But yes, Putin thinks that continuing the attacks makes him

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Speaker 4: gives him a stronger position than in negotiating. Because you've

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Speaker 4: made it clear over and over again, you want peace,

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Speaker 4: you want the killing to stop.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: If you were to say, yeah, me too, how much

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Speaker 4: would you have to give him to get the killing

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Speaker 4: to stop very little, because you've both expressed the desire

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Speaker 4: to and the killing. You've come to the table saying

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Speaker 4: I want the killing to stop, and he's come to

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Speaker 4: the table saying, you know what, I just killed more

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Speaker 4: people today, And if you'll excuse me, yeah, right now,

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Speaker 4: I just killed five hundred more people. You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to give up a hell of.

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Speaker 1: A lot more at the table. I think he's going again.

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Speaker 1: I don't Trump surely understands.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to say to Putin's face

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Speaker 3: at some point that's bulls, You're full of crap, because

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Speaker 3: Putin's gonna say something like these are military targets. They

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Speaker 3: attacked us first, you know, all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 3: And Trump's come on, where's there Trump, where's our bleeped

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Speaker 3: Trump clip?

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Speaker 4: Michael, what's Trump gonna say to Putin? Two syllables? I

583
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Speaker 4: wasn't kidding when I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I want him to treat Putin like he treated Rand

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Speaker 3: Paul or Chris Christy or any of those people. You know,

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Speaker 3: Carly Fiorina. Treat him like that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you got it.

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Speaker 4: You you had the perfect coaching every time you look

589
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Speaker 4: at Putin picture rosy O'donald's head on his neck. Mister president,

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Speaker 4: that'll get you in the right fighting spirit.

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Speaker 3: The exact he needs to say that to Putin's face.

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Speaker 3: We got what's f what? What are your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 3: Here's the text line four one five two nine five

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Speaker 3: KFTC last weekend before school starts from my kids, they're

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Speaker 3: in a panic.

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Speaker 1: They're in a panic.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, oh boy, taking deep breaths like jumping in

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Speaker 4: a cold pool. He'll get used to it pretty soon,

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Speaker 4: but I remember that feeling. So I was tempted to

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Speaker 4: end the hour with the discussion of Russia's finances. Read

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Speaker 4: a really good detailed analysis. They are in financial trouble.

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Speaker 4: I hope this war is enormously expensive and it can't

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Speaker 4: last forever. But you know, we've talked about that a

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Speaker 4: fair amountain it'll still be true on Monday, so maybe

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Speaker 4: we'll get to it again then. So a couple of

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Speaker 4: stories to bring to you very quickly. I found this

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Speaker 4: very funny. Andrew Styles of the Free Beacon the Emerging

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Speaker 4: Democratic Consensus for twenty twenty six, curse Moore, obey less,

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Speaker 4: protect criminals and illegal immigrants at all, costs and evidently, yes,

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Speaker 4: swearing is a big part of the strategy.

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Speaker 1: We actually do we have that to Beto or rourk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that we had the Yeah we do.

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Speaker 3: We had it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think we did today again. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: We should have got eleven play eleven.

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Speaker 9: We are in a basketball game right now, if you'll

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Speaker 9: excuse the metaphor, where the refs have left the arena

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Speaker 9: and the other side is he clobbering us. He's plunging

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Speaker 9: us in the face, kicking us in the nuts.

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Speaker 4: And he mentioned that the Dems need to fight harder

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Speaker 4: in defense of the illegal immigrant community. That quote makes

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Speaker 4: this country so g D great.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. I wonder whose decision that was that we

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Speaker 3: need to curse more to show that we're fighting.

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Speaker 4: Representative Jasmine Crockett, the potty mouthed diva who's a rising

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Speaker 4: star thanks for republic Transom tantrums and phony accent, being

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Speaker 4: a boarding school grad, but sounds ghetto when it's convenient.

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Speaker 4: She's argued that illegal immigrant is not a crime, called

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump a piece of ass, etc.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 4: The Hill urged Democratic leaders to follow her lead. Crockett

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Speaker 4: is the base. She is the movement. Whether you like

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Speaker 4: her delivery or not, She's speaking a language people understand,

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Speaker 4: and that's what exactly what this party needs.

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Speaker 3: If she is the base of the Democratic Party, they

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna win an national elections for a long time.

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Speaker 1: All right, how about this strategy instead.

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Speaker 4: The Loudun County virgin It's a DC suburb, Loudun County,

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Speaker 4: Fairfax County, woke America. They voted tuesday to keep their

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Speaker 4: transgender policies, even after the Education Department warned the district

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Speaker 4: that and four others they could face legal punishment lose

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Speaker 4: federal funding for violating Title nine, the federal law that

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Speaker 4: bands sex discrimination. Boys can keep going into the girls'

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Speaker 4: locker rooms and watch them change.

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Speaker 1: Boys can keep.

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Speaker 4: Whipping up on girls on the sports fields as long

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Speaker 4: as they say I'm a girl today in Loudun County.

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Speaker 4: I wish you well, see you in court. I'm actually

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Speaker 4: glad they're doing this. Why not let's have it out

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Speaker 4: yep And final story, complete change of topic. This is

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Speaker 4: about AI in entertainment, specifically animation. There are systems already

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Speaker 4: being used by the studios that are improving like week

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Speaker 4: by week that will reduce the time taken to render

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Speaker 4: a sophisticated animation picture toy story to animate a scene

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Speaker 4: will go from weeks two minutes, wow, two seconds. We

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Speaker 4: can provide tools for animators to animate a character in

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Speaker 4: ten seconds instead of a week. There's no turning back,

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Speaker 4: says the founder.

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