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Speaker 1: on all things and ladies and gentlemen, my name is

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Speaker 1: Tanking What the Money podcast, the authority on old thing.

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Speaker 1: For a week on oh R and b y oh

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Speaker 1: Man were talking all long jevity, yeah oh man, nigga

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Speaker 1: on mine. Giving up. Brother, I'm glad to be here. Bro,

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Speaker 1: I mean your family, so you know it's good to

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Speaker 1: see you. Thank you for being here with us. Then, um,

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Speaker 1: I want to go into a story. Kick right off.

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Speaker 1: I just started doing R and B music, not singing

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Speaker 1: it but producing it and writing it. Um for um

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Speaker 1: my ex wife sisters. Um. They had a little girls

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Speaker 1: crew and it's three them sing sing They tails off, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, I'll try, you can

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Speaker 1: first Winning Fire Ussher like you know, big guy, right,

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Speaker 1: So he was like, I got an opportunity for the

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Speaker 1: girls to open for Immature, right, so at the Baltimore Arena. Right.

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Speaker 1: So at this time, I'm like, Okay, that'll be cool.

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Speaker 1: Open up Immature. That's gonna be straight. I had heard

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Speaker 1: all that. I got all this stuff with me. You

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Speaker 1: I had no more different. So they're like Immateur. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: She was actually from Baltimore. So they got mad love,

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Speaker 1: major love, right and so um at this point, they're

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Speaker 1: We did. I did the movie Baba's Kids because Chris

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Speaker 1: crossover crossover pop. That was a huge pop single State

423
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: to Night and it was working. So it was like, okay,

424
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: we we we weathered the storm, we figured it out.

425
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: We figured it out. Gold single, you know, did really good,

426
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: were crossing over. The whole label gets fired, everybody, everybody

427
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: gets canned, our album gets put on the shelf. No

428
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: more singles, and we ended up leaving MCA at that point,

429
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: and then we did another independent album. That's when we

430
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: did House Party four. Then it did another independent album

431
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: which was uh we did. We came up with the

432
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: first time I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let you

433
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: breeze over house Party for though. House Party four no, no, no, no, no,

434
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying house Party for it was a classic. You know,

435
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: it's fucking classic. And Bernie Mack Yeah, that's Tucker. No,

436
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: that's three. No no, no, when Burnie back Chris Tucker,

437
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: that's three. So that was three. Yeah, yeah, that was

438
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: you had already done three. We had already done three, yeah,

439
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: because three was like when we were still virgin days. Okay,

440
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, so that was before because it threw

441
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: me successful back to it Asian nigga in House Party. Yeah,

442
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: he's a house party. Yeah yeah, yeah, same time, man time, Man,

443
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't know you. And what was the sexiest a weapon? Sex?

444
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: Sex is a west sex is a weapon. Yeah. So yeah,

445
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: House Party three was before we actually no, no, no,

446
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: you niggas actually went and made your own house party

447
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: at our part. Yeah. Now it's now clear. Hell yeah,

448
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: it took the movie. Yeah, so we just you know,

449
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: and we were signing. New Line Records came out with

450
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: a couple of records, and that did where we're like

451
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: as a new line. Simitar had a record label, Ye Records.

452
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: So that's how y'all was able to negotiate the movie. Yep.

453
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: So New Line Records put out put out. Oh yeah,

454
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: y'a I've been doing business. Yeah yeah. That was the

455
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: beginning era of B two K. That's where they started

456
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: coming into the to the picture. So what most people

457
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: don't realize you were a part of the label. Yeah, like, yes,

458
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: you were Marcus Houston Batman from Immature in Imax, but

459
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: you were also an executive. Yes, you were instrumental in

460
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: discovering as put together, putting together projects and this whole

461
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: thing at what eighteen nineteen years Yeah, about we produced,

462
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: we had our our producing team platinum status. We produced

463
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: all of B two k's music. You know, we had

464
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 1: a couple acts that, you know, we produced on Destiny

465
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: Child like it was we were going into that, you know,

466
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: going into the production aspect of things, and we put

467
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: B two K together. They were kind of like, you know,

468
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: they were actually and we did a song called Clap

469
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: your Hands for the soundtrack of House Party and they

470
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: were in the video that was like, they're like introduction, introduction.

471
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: So we put them out. They took off so fast

472
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't even funny. So I remember so immature we were.

473
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: We were the King's right. We were like, you know,

474
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: it's smature. I MX. Now you know, we're going on tour,

475
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: big guys, We're going tour B two K. The first show,

476
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: it's our tour, right first night they performed and shut

477
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: it down. We were last. We tried to go, We tried,

478
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: we tried to go, We tried, we tried to go last.

479
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: And that was the last night that we went last.

480
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: The first night, the first night turned into the B

481
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: two K tour. They completely took up. We was just

482
00:27:53,440 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: like just kill y'all, scream y'all, y'all do down screaming.

483
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: Hell y'all screamed out, yea, I was Enjodan on the Wizards.

484
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, they're going on and it took

485
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: over that whole you know, so we had to But

486
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: we businessman, you know, hell yeah, we own it. So

487
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: the bigger you guys are great, you know, so we

488
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: went with it. That's the I think that's the other

489
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: part about your you guys dynamic and network that people

490
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: don't really pay attention to, right because everything you guys

491
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: do is in house. Yeah, literally everything everything everything. Yeah,

492
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: Like at one point Kelton was the road manager. Yeah,

493
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: for was wrong, was wrong? No, DJ, I don't gonna

494
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: get nobody else. I was like, you know what, listen,

495
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: that's what I was at Motown. I'm like, waiting, it's cool,

496
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: but this is how we're gonna keep the bread. That's right,

497
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: turning and circulate. Yeah, you are now a role man. Okay,

498
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: you assist man the exactly game and everybody was like

499
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: this cool, let's work. Yeah. I remember I was Max

500
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Goose come to a photoshoot b twok was having a

501
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: photo shooting. I was ironing their clothes and Max looks

502
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: at me like, what are you doing? So I'm learning

503
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: the clothes. What do you think I'm doing? This? These

504
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: these boys is about to be huge? You know, I'm

505
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: this is this is this is my group. What do

506
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: you expect me to do? And he was so appalled

507
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: by that, and he was like, but you're you know,

508
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you're I'm like, that doesn't matter, you know because at

509
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, we all knew

510
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: what a B two game was gonna be. So it

511
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: was just like everybody hands on deck. I mean, you

512
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: can either you can either watch the train just go

513
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: on without you, or you can jump on a tram.

514
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Part of it. It's just being of service, bro. Yeah,

515
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: there's always a way to be a part, to play

516
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: your part. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, checking your

517
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: ego at I listen, I will do anything when it

518
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: comes to music. Yeah, just what y'all need to keep

519
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: no problem when you passionate about something, that's it. But

520
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: the way you guys set your business up at whatever

521
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: high or whatever low you were in that you were

522
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: figuring out a way to keep you in it and

523
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: keep money in little pocket that keep you growing, keep

524
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: you evolving. So now that shoot, probably by twenty years old,

525
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: you know every facet of the business, every every facet everything.

526
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I could do it all. It was very

527
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: much like the Winds. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, always a grip

528
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: with that same last name, producer. Beware it's gonna be away.

529
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: And we we me and me and uh because Drell's

530
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: my cousin, Jay Buck, He's that with blood cousin, so

531
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: we we Uh he works, he still works with our

532
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: company and everything. So we've another day. And we were saying,

533
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: like how we was like the Wayne's like coming up.

534
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: We was like them, you know, to the ways of music. Yeah,

535
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: you know that's kind of like what we were. And

536
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: people hated that. You know, people would always hate you know,

537
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: people always be you know, in their ears saying oh ye'all,

538
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? People hate person. Yeah,

539
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: they love to hate what they don't understand, you know,

540
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and they want to break it up. And I felt

541
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: like that us be two k that whole powerhouse could

542
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: have been so much bigger. Have they not broken up? Definitely?

543
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: So well. I mean we still have to get to

544
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: a classic classic film. We can get to that classic film,

545
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: can we can? We I got a funny ass story too,

546
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Can we got a funny you Got served? Can you

547
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Got served? As story? You go first? Please? So you

548
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: got served? Please? This time I have a production partner.

549
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: His name is Wade Robson. Oh being Way didn't sync together, right.

550
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm a part of a movie, but

551
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm not part of a movie, right, So I'm like, what, okay? Right?

552
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, you get this side of it, right. Yeah.

553
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: So at the time, Wade was trying to get in

554
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: film and television stuff, and I guess he had met

555
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: some high level executive whoever whoever, the guy who green

556
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: lit the movie randomly, and when they introduce him to Wade,

557
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: he's like, you know that somebody else introduce him. I'm like, oh,

558
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, this is Way Robson and he goes, oh wait,

559
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: you're in my movie, and Way goes I Am. So

560
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: him and him, an executive, had the conversation. He don't

561
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: he don't really know what he's talking about. But he's like, listen,

562
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: this is the head of a movie studio. If he

563
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: says I'm in this movie, I'm in this damn movie. Right.

564
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: So he's like, but I don't know what's going on.

565
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out how to ask what

566
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: the movie it is? What out put it on? I

567
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: don't know what movie talking about. So two sides of

568
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: you got served. Let's let's just go to you. First

569
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: of all, thank you, because yeah that movie. So so

570
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: how that started is he started writing scripts long time ago.

571
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: House Party was this first movie that he'd actually directed.

572
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: He was like, I directed all these music videos. I

573
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: want to direct House Party for it when we did

574
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: on our own. So yeah, we stole that give album. Yeah,

575
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: y'all give us that movie. So um. He wrote a

576
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: movie called Dance that was for Aliyah, Dave Scott and Genuine,

577
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: which is why my name is Elgin's name Dave and

578
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: why Jennifer's name is Lea Wow. And the opposing team

579
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: was Wade and Max, so it was actually for Waye Robson.

580
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: Wade choreographed our videos. Way but we did a Good

581
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Burger soundtrack. I was in the movie Good Burger. We

582
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: did a Good Burger soundtrack Washing Dogs Childhood, so way

583
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: without knowing you, yeah, Wade choreographed our video. He was

584
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: our choreographer. Dave Scott, who choreographed B two K, was

585
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: also our choreographer. So that's wh wrote the movie dance

586
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: for Cut to seventy that didn't happen. I don't know,

587
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, he reached out to gen u Y and

588
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: way it didn't happen. Cut to seven years later. Um,

589
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, b TWOK was with Sony Records, and Sony

590
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: was like interested in doing the project. They sent him

591
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to screen Gyms, which is executive um over at screen

592
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Gyms to do the movie. They're like, we want to

593
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: do the movie. I see you on the screen Gyms

594
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: and start a subsidiary company that does these budgets. We're

595
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: gonna make the movie happen. The executive and this is

596
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: this is a story even B t K weren't aware

597
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: of back in that time. So because I wasn't supposed

598
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: to really be you know, the character Elgin. But the

599
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: executive said he Chris showed in my video to that

600
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: girl because it all a dancing. He's like, this is

601
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: kind of how I want to do it. And you know,

602
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: he was like, who's that? I want him to be

603
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: the start of movie. So I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

604
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Right away he was like I want whoever that kid is,

605
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: I want him to be starry movie. So that's how

606
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: I got the role of m Elgin and then so

607
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: we did it as a project with all of us

608
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: B two k Omar of course chose David buz Rico.

609
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: We did all the characters and everything like that. But

610
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: like I said, originally that movie was for Dave scott

611
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: Alia and Genuine and Wade. So we took it to

612
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Wade when we were doing it with Sony and Chris

613
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want you to do this movie. Uh,

614
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: you got served and played a bad guy, and I

615
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: guess he didn't really want it. He didn't want to

616
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: do it at that point. I don't think he was

617
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: trying to act or whatever. So he turned it down.

618
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: So we actually got Chris Jones with the spiky hair

619
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: to be the way way this. Yeah, yeah, you know.

620
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: So so that's how that character came. And then we

621
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: did the movie and so they were like, okay, Sony,

622
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: you guys did this subsiderate movie with these kids who

623
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: cares nobody thought it was. They was like okay, so whatever.

624
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: So Chris went in and said, okay, Look, he negotiated

625
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: deals for all of us, for him, me and all

626
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: of B two K for box office Bumps and box

627
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: what a box office Bumps with people that don't know,

628
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: if a movie hits a certain number, you get it.

629
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: So at ten million, every ten million, he negotiated its

630
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: astronomical number that we would get at ten million, and

631
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: they said yes because they were like this movie yeah, yeah, yeah,

632
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: it saw fifty so five times, five times we got paid.

633
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: So it was so when it and it was, it

634
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: was it was just you know, it was crazy because

635
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: when the movie we went to the premiere, that's when

636
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: the group broke up. We went to the premiere of

637
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: me and Oh had to go to the premiere by ourselves,

638
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: like the group they came with, like Bower or something

639
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: like that. It was like, you know, it was two

640
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: k broken up by the time the time when we

641
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: came out, it was it was whacked because we had

642
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: to go to the premiere and we couldn't really all

643
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: enjoy the moment together. And you know, it came out

644
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: and I mean just huge. No one expected an number

645
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: one movie debuted like sixteen million back then. That was

646
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: like crazy. How much did the movie cost? Eight million

647
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: was a production budget, so the movie ends up making

648
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: over fifty dollars. Wow, So we was just like it's

649
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: great business. It was. It was a craziness. It was

650
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: was it was, and I'm sure all of the uh

651
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: all of all of the business was leaning in you guys'

652
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: favorite again because there was no belief somebody believe. I

653
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: think it was it was like some really big other

654
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: movies that was that was coming out. Nobody knew it

655
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: was going to be big, and it just it came

656
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: out and was just astronomical, and it, you know, started

657
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: all these other dance movies and yeah, and the Way

658
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: did a cameo. Yeah, and Way ended up doing it.

659
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Came and he played a judge in what the movie? Yeah,

660
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: the movie, And it was it was crazy because we

661
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: uh so the final scene, the final battle scene, it

662
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: was crazy because we we had rehearsed. We you know,

663
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: Chris hadn't seen it yet. He's seen a couple of rehearsals,

664
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: but like Dave and we all kind of got together,

665
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: so we was like, okay, cool, We're about to shoot

666
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: the scene or whatever. Everybody's like damn for the scene.

667
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: It's like the final battle. We're like, whoa, it's about

668
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: to go down. Because you know, everybody was still battling

669
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: in their own right, like we was still It was

670
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a real thing. Like, even though it was scripted to

671
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: who lost and who won, it was still real. So

672
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: we do the final battle, Chris says cut. He walks

673
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: up to us, said, Dave came here. He was like,

674
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: that was horrible. That was trash. I can't end my

675
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: movie with this. So he said, y'all figure something out

676
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: because it has to be better than this. So we

677
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, because we thought we killed it

678
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: just now. But we was like, oh, I guess, I

679
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: guess it didn't work. So then a couple of dancers,

680
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, God, we get together. Dave gets together. He

681
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm gonna put this piece. So

682
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: that ending battle ended up being real because neither side

683
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: knew what we were to do. So it ended up

684
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: being a real battle. And that's why I was so

685
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: explosive at the end because it was that was real.

686
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: So we was like even like the SlowMo party, dude

687
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: came to us. He was like, all right, I got

688
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: this idea I always wanted to try. And he was like,

689
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: so when I do my cartwheel or I'll do my

690
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: hands and I'm gonna go slow motion, and everybody just

691
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: starts moving slow motion. So he told us to do

692
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: that on the fly. So all of that stuff was

693
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: like that was all like, you know, it wasn't really

694
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: some most some of it was choreograph and most of

695
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: it was like just you know us kind of like

696
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: some monster dancers and all the monsters were in that everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

697
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's what really really drove it, the

698
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: the authenticity of Yeah it was because everybody everybody, because

699
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: it's like your peers were like, oh no, that's that's

700
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: the real thing. Yeah, things are really had absolutely naked. Okay,

701
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: story time, let's good too. Oh yeah, I'm in the background. Okay,

702
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: you go first. Okay, So it so we uh, I'll

703
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: start with the the US. UM. I did my first

704
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: solo album, So I am X. We broke up on tour,

705
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: actually broke up on tour. We broke up. It was

706
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: the last show in Miami, was on tour B two

707
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: K and you know, the Fellas just kind of wanted to,

708
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, do. Kelton was more like, I just don't

709
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: want to be entertained. I just I want to be regular.

710
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I want to just do regular stuff. I'm tired of

711
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: the entertainment. Rome was like, you know, I don't really

712
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I want to more do more rap.

713
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not really interested in like being an

714
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: R and B singer anymore. I want to rape you.

715
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't we want to be with the R

716
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: and B normal. So so it was like, you know,

717
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: I was a little salty at first because I was like,

718
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, a year prior, I, um, you know, j

719
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: D wanted to do my solo album and this was

720
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: right after Imax, the New Line album, and I said no.

721
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: So I was loyal to the guys. So I was like, yeah,

722
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to go solo. I was sitting in

723
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: the group cut two years later like I don't want

724
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: to do the group. I felt like, well, y'all can

725
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: me solo album? Y'all told me that then Now I

726
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: can't go back, Jamie, we can do it now anyway.

727
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: So did the first album come down to the second album?

728
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: First albums? Was it did well? You know it it

729
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: was independent, Um no, it was on electric, but it

730
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: reintroduced me as you know, uh you know solo artists.

731
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: It did well, you know, it was it was good.

732
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: We had clubbing that was That was a single off

733
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: that album, and I did really well. Kelse you know

734
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: we he had his run and I was part of

735
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: that run with Clubbing. So the second album was like,

736
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: all right, where where are we gonna go? So we

737
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: sit down. Omari was actually in the studio with Underdogs

738
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: recording with Underdogs. He had also went solo. So now

739
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: there's this. I don't want to do nothing like my brother.

740
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: I want him nothing like I'm aory. I want him

741
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: to have his own lane and I want to have

742
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: my own lane. If we do anything alike, it's gonna

743
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: be like, you know what I'm saying, I don't even

744
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: want that. So Chris is like, but are you sure

745
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: the Underdogs are dope? You know what I'm saying. I'm like, no,

746
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to work with Underdogs only because I

747
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: always working with him. It had nothing to do with

748
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: the talent of the Underdogs anything like that. Loved Damon

749
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: and Harvey. I don't know use over there at that point,

750
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: but you know, I was like, cool, I don't want

751
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: to do nothing that I'm alreadys doing. So a couple

752
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: of weeks later, he comes back to me, He's like, Okay,

753
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I really think that you should go in and work

754
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: with them. I was just like I was like, all right,

755
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I'll trust you if you feel like as long as

756
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: they can, you know, we can do some different stuff.

757
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't want nothing like oh, so I want to

758
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: do some different stuff. I want to do some nasty stuff.

759
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Then so I get on the phone. I think I

760
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: got on the phone with Damon and I was like,

761
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: these are three titles that I want to do naked

762
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: sex with you and like one other title something like that.

763
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, cool, I got you. So go

764
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: to the studio and was it. Oh, I see the

765
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: fun that's the strip club. That was the first song

766
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: they played for and I recorded it, but I was like,

767
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: that's I don't go to the strip club. I've been

768
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the one strip club in my life. Like, that's not me.

769
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't I want to be authentic. I don't go

770
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: to the strip club. But it just really wasn't working

771
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: for me. And then they played me the the the

772
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: one yeah, and it was naked Yeah, and the tank

773
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: was in his room, you know, he had a little

774
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: room in there and it comes out and plays it

775
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: for me, and I was like, oh, that's what I

776
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: wanted to record right there. That was it, and you know,

777
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: and left your vocals on there too. Listen, I don't mind. Yeah,

778
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that was That's how I was. I

779
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: was never gonna work without the dogs. And you know,

780
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Chris just kept convincing me, like you, I feel like

781
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: this is you know what you need And it ended

782
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: up being what I needed. And then you guys go

783
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: on the road. Was that a screen tour? Ye? Yes,

784
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: that was a screen tour. That was a screen tour.

785
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: And and You're on a screen tour the box and

786
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I didn't know how old you were

787
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: at the time. I never know how old you are.

788
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: I've never I've never I felt like you've never turned

789
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: an age or like somehow I've never known always been

790
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: forty one. I feel like he's always been eighteen. Like

791
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: just that's it. Just that's it. That's eighteen Peter Pan

792
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: type shit. And so when he was going on a

793
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: scream too, I was like, but how does he I

794
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: understand how old he is? Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah,

795
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: so you're going to scream tour? What city did you

796
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: go to? I went to a couple of SETI I

797
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: went to I of my Klan story after and uh,

798
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: and I'm standing there, I'm like, oh, he's about to

799
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: do naked. I wonder what he's gonna doing naked, you

800
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, it would be

801
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: crazy if he got naked, but I'm sure he's like

802
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: naked in front of all these kids and he's getting naked.

803
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: But he threw his draws all in the crab. So yeah,

804
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: we had the naked box because the video I was naked, ye,

805
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: so we wanted to recreate something kind of like the

806
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: video came up with the naked box with the little

807
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: mate hiding whatever, and uh yeah, I was like, you know,

808
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: throw the draws off, saided getting new pair of draws

809
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: every uh every show through the draws off? Good did

810
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: you did you go like did you go the the

811
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: economical route and like go to target and grab the

812
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: draws or did you like go get designer? Now we

813
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: target was strowing target draws. I was stowing target draws,

814
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: and and they just want I have a story. Okay,

815
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: of course, just this story of this is not a

816
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: good story. So I was not. So you know, when

817
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: you go on tour, there's pranks. Yeah right, there's always

818
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: going to be a prank. So I bought for the

819
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: most part, every show I had a brand new pair

820
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: of draws. But there was this one show that the

821
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: draws were not brand new. Okay, so I would actually

822
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: get dressed in my backstage with the rope, get dressed,

823
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: put the draws on, then throw them off right, it

824
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: had something else under it though obviously I wasn't button

825
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: naked on stage. So the one so one day I

826
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: decided to prank my dancers and prank whoever caught the draws.

827
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: So I was in these draws all day and when

828
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: it came to do the naked song, so I'm sweaty,

829
00:47:53,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: just whatever, they had draws my real draws. When play

830
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: the game, oh no, we was. I was all over

831
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: the place before the shot. I was all over the

832
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: place before the show doing everything I could possibly done,

833
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: draws out. I don't even remember what city was, but

834
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: I threw my real draws. So then and then my

835
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: two dancers will come in and put the robe on me,

836
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: so they came into surprises. Normally I would have on

837
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: like the little draws under the draws. That was I

838
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: was free balling. So they came in like, oh okay,

839
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: you really, So whoever whoever got those draws the real

840
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: real sorry, draws. I don't know then was the play.

841
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw them back all bad bro.

842
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: So yeah that's Oakland, give me Oakland. So Oakland. Yeah.

843
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: My sister caused me and she's like, I easy to

844
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: take all the kids to the screen to it all

845
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: the kids said, of course, all of it. At this time,

846
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I had the City Boy Van is what we called it,

847
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: because I was a name of my label, City Boys Music,

848
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: and we had a van at twelve. You know, I

849
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: didn't bought the full We didn't wrapped wrap on it.

850
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: The whole ship, right, Me and all little girls and

851
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: all my nieces and their friends the screen and we

852
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: get to the show and I'm like, I want to

853
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: give them the experience. So I called, oh oh, make

854
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: sure we were straight with everything. Got us all the

855
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: meet and greeds, got us all everything we need. These

856
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: they wanted to they wanted to do it. They wanted

857
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: to do it right. So we get there early, the

858
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: whole ship. By getting there early, we catched the opening act.

859
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: Who there were these four kids from Florida, four kids

860
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: floating called pretty rick. Wow, I've never heard of them.

861
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: The lights go out, the lights come back on, the

862
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: lights are pointed at the stage of sheets. What the

863
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: fuck the sheets start fucking the stage. Oh yeah, I'm like,

864
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: what the Yeah? Pretty they had a nasty show. Them

865
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: niggas jump up in their in their draw singing grind on,

866
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: taking down six little girls here, five little girls there.

867
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, get your ass, make them go to the

868
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: concession stand. Yeah, I got it. I got a little bit.

869
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: Run run them out of the building so they can

870
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: go get concession. Nigga. I'm talking about, spend four five

871
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: hundred on whatever you want, all the candy and poppa whatever,

872
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: whatever you want, just get it into these niggas. Get

873
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: off the stage. Because and Mark, I think Mario was

874
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: on that tour too. Yeah, so I got Mario performing, Um,

875
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: how could you? We got a marian performing? Oh and

876
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to so I'm like, I'm showing off to

877
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: my nieces, the record, your uncles, and then we've been

878
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: a part of school ship. No. Yeah, then I take

879
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: them back downstairs naked box, bring your going on me?

880
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah we did. I actually, um, the last last show,

881
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: Michael Martin came to me and was like it was

882
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: in my I think Miami. He was like, uh, if

883
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: you if you if you do the naked box, you

884
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: might get you might get arrested tonight. So just we

885
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: wish they would arrested your ass and just just just

886
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: just tell you know, so I didn't I didn't do

887
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: the whole naked box. I think I kept on a

888
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: tank top or something like that. I had to do

889
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: something because I was like, I ain't going to jail.

890
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: As you should have went to jail that Bobby Brown,

891
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: you could have got right out. I would have got

892
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: right out. Legend you got bill money. Yeah, I ain't

893
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail, not in Miami. Had photos again,

894
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: I got some jail Miami get off definitely. Was it

895
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: like little piano like hil piano, like a little a

896
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: little plan like this? What should they saying when they

897
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: get What should they say? There ain't never been no

898
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: school beening on school he too was, but they he left,

899
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: he left ear he ain't left. He left the group.

900
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: He would have one it done. So we can get

901
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: to immate your segments. Yeah, a segment time. Okay, what image?

902
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: Top five? You're top five? Okay to five? Top five?

903
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: Holy besy, oh man, be so I then be your

904
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: then be your top top your dopp do hi hi,

905
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: join in no school for that. It sounds like it

906
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: sounds like the top five, like one five order, no order,

907
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: no order, no order. Just today a woman? How are

908
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: you feeling today? Oh? Man? A woman. They could be

909
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: in a group, they could be sold. Whatever are you

910
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: your world? Okay? Take my top five. Ask anybody that

911
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: knows me. They'll tell you that I'm Sean Stockman. Yeah.

912
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: The guys yea, why not. It's a problem right now

913
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: still to this day in his full chest, I hate them,

914
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: full hate them usher m h Yeah, gonna get out

915
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I need to Yeah yeah. Michael Jackson. Now

916
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 1: there's no order, Yeah yeah, yeah. This is my top five. Wow, okay,

917
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself? Dodge Top five, Top five R

918
00:55:52,920 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: and B songs. Okay, so let's seem burn Jesus. Yeah, naked, Yeah, man,

919
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: come on, man, listens, gonna do come on, ship the sun,

920
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: don't come on to mon, don't come on to mo.

921
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: He spread the pro he's a pro, he's a professional. Naked,

922
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Walk Away, which you probably don't know.

923
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: So my first album song called walk Away, I'm gonna

924
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: go back and listening because that was the joint that

925
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 1: she was in love with Kenny Whitehead. Okay, walk Away

926
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: first album, first Alba album. M m uh, I believe

927
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I can fly? Does that count as R and B though, Yeah,

928
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: damn right, because I'm assuming else. That's what I thought. Flowers,

929
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: all right, that's what shit. Okay, that's for right yep

930
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: on bended knee. Mm hmm. It's all time. So it's

931
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: just disrespectful court structures and the damn melodies. Very give

932
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: me the reason. Well, last time you've been to a

933
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: Boyson main concert? Never have what? And as my favorite

934
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: group of all times, every been to a contact, I

935
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: hadn't been to hundreds. I just opened up for him

936
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: at the Barclays, and I got as many boys in

937
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: many kinds as I can't. I did my thing. I

938
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: did my set when we titties out boys, the you

939
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: know what, No, no, I opened for them. They won't anyway.

940
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do tank tanks that. I got to get

941
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: a shape. So I came out there and I did

942
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: what I do. I should. I shout the crowd, shut

943
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: their asses up, made them nasty, okay boys. The men

944
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: fully closed and erased everything. Look listen, they had erased

945
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: everything that happened before they got on Statch. Nothing else mattered.

946
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: There was an artist that was supposed to go after them.

947
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Nope, Voltron, m that's you're gonna do.

948
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: So I want to know what you try to think?

949
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: You're bro I know you, I know you're ready, but

950
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: just you're Voltron. Who are you getting the vocal from?

951
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: The performance style, the styling and the passion the heart

952
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: of the artists. Who are you getting the vocal from

953
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: to build your artist? Mm hm, Who's gonna be the

954
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: least sanger? I would give that to Michael? Why not?

955
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: I would? Why not? Why not? Why not? As you should?

956
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: As you should, that's Michael. He's gonna take that. Michael

957
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: had the ability to create a style, a style of singing,

958
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: and as many have tried, ye doesn't happen. I wish

959
00:59:46,920 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: you nigga will go niggas that. I wish you you can't. Okay, yeah,

960
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: my daughter says when she hits me, So maybe maybe

961
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: he up. He's a man of the arts. Who are

962
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: you getting the performance style from? I already know you

963
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: want to say. You don't know what I'm gonna saying.

964
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know what performance style style on stage. Yeah,

965
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: who you're gonna give to your vultr artist Chris bro Oh,

966
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: he didn't know that. You ain't know that. You thought

967
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: it's the same. It's one A and one bat. Is

968
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: he nasty? I just can't boy, Breezy is something. He's

969
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: a problem. He's a problem. Um styling the trip of

970
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: the artists. I will give that to Chris mm hmm.

971
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: He's had some some good he's dripping. Yeah, it's good.

972
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: It's good. Background with that. It's five racks of drip

973
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: in his dressing room. He refuses to be boxed in

974
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: on any standpoint musically and style wise. He does it

975
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: all and it all works. Ye never seen an artist

976
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, all right. The passion of the artist,

977
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: the heart of the the heart of the artists. M

978
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: m got that shit make you do wrong? Kaals mm hmmm,

979
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: Now that might be. You know, everybody y'all have R

980
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: and B money talking about R and B music that heart.

981
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an artist to me ever, that

982
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: actually had that passionate yeah, you know, and was able

983
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: to get it out dude music Colse, Who is we

984
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: all trying to get it from? Cause? I like what

985
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: you did there. I like what you did there, but

986
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: you're not done. You definitely ain't done. Okay, you can't

987
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: leave here without I ain't saying no names. I ain't

988
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: saying no names, saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

989
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: Where you was, who you win? What you did? Don't

990
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: say she, I ain't saying no name. So the story time, Yeah,

991
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: I hate relaxed man, stay, stay ready, load the good ones,

992
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: load the good one. No, no, listen, listen, give you

993
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: the breakdown, give me a breakdown. Make sure it's a

994
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: good one. Okay, story funny or fucked up? Are funny

995
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: and fucked up your travels? It's Marcus Houston Batman, I

996
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: mean Batman. There have been many in the movies, but

997
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: in this community it's only been one. Batman's right, you hm,

998
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: it's right, you am. So this is Marcus Houston, the legend. Understand,

999
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: understand the man we got in the building to day,

1000
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: this is his I ain't saying no names. Yeah, so

1001
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: this is a good story. Okay. So I'm in the

1002
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: story though, so that cannot say my name? Yea. So

1003
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: we say you're gonna go third person on, Uh, yeah,

1004
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I can go third person m Batman group. And Batman

1005
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't really know the industry that well. Okay, he was

1006
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: a kid that was very wishful and he thought of

1007
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: was glamorous and he grew up thinking that it might

1008
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: have been real. There may have been some real people

1009
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: in n but he found out quick that this industry

1010
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: was very fake. And I'll tell you how he found

1011
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: that album. So everybe when I told you earlier, somebody

1012
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: paid for the album. We did the album, took it

1013
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: to a label, got signed through a guy that was

1014
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: the person at the label. He signed it. The group.

1015
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: So when the group, you know, you go to ther

1016
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: press day, go to New York. Gotta go to New

1017
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: York to gotta go to New York meet the company

1018
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: because most back then most companies was in New York.

1019
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: That was like the you know, that's how you knew

1020
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: Year have made it. Yeah, you go to New York.

1021
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: So the group goes to New York, meets one of

1022
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: the head guys of the label. The group's nothing yet,

1023
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: so walking you know, you're doing the meet and greets.

1024
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: You gotta walk around the company and you gotta you know,

1025
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: meet this person, meet that person. Guy treats them like

1026
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: complete trash, like almost get out of my office trash, Like,

1027
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: who are you guys? Despicable? Right? We go go away,

1028
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, hands hanging low, kind of like, wow, that

1029
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: was you know, headed label go away. Song comes out,

1030
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: group explodes, go back to New York. Now the group

1031
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: is big, goes to the same person's office and he says, hey,

1032
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: it's my son's come on in my son's how you

1033
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: guys doing. We was like, wow, that's what that's that's

1034
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: what that's about. Huh, that's what Okay? Cool? So I

1035
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: never forgot that because it was it was the ft

1036
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: up story. Yeah, and I never forgot because I was like,

1037
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: you know, you treated us like dog crap, and now

1038
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: it's like we your sons and we family. So that

1039
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: just kind of just taught me a little bit about

1040
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, just watch it a little bit. And that

1041
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: was early because I was said groups first hit record, yep,

1042
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: so it's very early. But I learned something, you know,

1043
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: I learned that's how the industry is, and you gotta

1044
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: the people that you choose to be in your circle.

1045
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: Stick with that. That's your core. Let that be your corvation.

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01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: Understand the rest. Yeah, So yeah, that's my story. I

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: hope it was a good one. That's a story that

1048
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: they need to know in them periods, because that's a

1049
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: very real thing. And I have to tell people not

1050
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: to take it personal. That's true. That's listen. You're not hot. Yeah,

1051
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: so I've been there, so you're not. We got a surprise, Okay,

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01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: I got a little surprised. Man wants to bring this

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01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: in tank. Oh shit, so take Durrell Tank, Babs Senior. Yeah,

1054
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: the Neaked album is officially certified gold. And just so

1055
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta pay for these. Come on, so

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: I bought my guy. Yeah yeah, just a just another

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: plaque to copies, you know. Yeah, we sold them. Yeah

1058
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: this ain't this ain't single. Yeah, this album. Yeah that's great. Bro. Congratulations,

1059
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, cotulations, thank you, thank you, congratulation.

1060
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, you know I'm saying. You know, listen,

1061
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 1: I had left the underdogs by the time, damn it. Yeah,

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01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't a dog. He up started. Oh wow, I'd

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: like to thank I'd like to thank first of all,

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: um Marcus Houston for for being a vessel, Um for

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: such amazing art, being receptive. Thank you very much, um

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: to to just what I was trying to do at

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: the moment um just just just trying to trying to

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: be creative, trying to be musical, um and trying not

1069
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: to be poor. Worked, I'm trying to be poor. Shout out.

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Harvey Mason Junior um who saw the

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01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: vision as well. Um, they hard without you know, help

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: help help me finish that track and that song. And

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: you know all of my guys up there, a little

1074
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: Steve and Er Dawkins, Tony Dixon, Jay was gone by

1075
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: the end. I thank him anyway for he just should

1076
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: be thanked. He's fine, He's fine when I left, and

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: m you know, just just a great time, a great

1078
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: moment in music history. Shout out to the Naked Box, Um,

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01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: the Naked Box. Shout out to the Naked Box. Very

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: disturbing on stage is throwing draws. And I never shout

1081
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: out to the person that shout out to you. I

1082
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: know you're somewhere traumatized. M g TD got the drop.

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here, you know. Um, I

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01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: can't think of any other place I'd rather be right

1085
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: now than on the arm by Money podcast Money talking

1086
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: to my brother Marcus since for my brother Ja Valentine. UM,

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: hold just holding the go record, you know, so you

1088
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna just hold this right here. It's classic.

1089
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that you got it. Just

1090
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: came out fresh out of the box. Um so brother,

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: brother Marcus Houston. UM, your time is valuable. Yes, UM,

1092
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: we appreciate, We appreciate you coming as I appreciate you. Um.

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01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: You are. You are a true legend. Thank you very much.

1094
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: Nobody can take that from you ever. In a million

1095
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: years you will. You will be talked about for the

1096
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: ages Batman or image. You will continue to live on.

1097
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for Thank you for inspiring me. Yeah you

1098
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, thank you, thank you for giving

1099
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: me levels I appreciate to attain too, because a lot

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: of people don't. You know. It's we in an industry

1101
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: where people don't give credit, and I like to give

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: credit to you as well. Yeah. You know you inspired

1103
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: me every day, you know what I'm saying exactly. Yeah.

1104
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: And when you stop learning, then you stop living, That's right,

1105
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: and so that's what we continue to do. Man, I

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: still don't that while you wait, M I mean, I

1107
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: just you know, I just put on my piano though.

1108
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: My thing. Another another one of Jay Valentine's thousand ideas

1109
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: In the morning, I got it. I got twenty things.

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01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: You wait, I'm not going to do any of that

1111
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: phone I call them back. Okay, I'm gonna do the third.

1112
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm um, So can I throw throw a little you know,

1113
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: just let everybody know what's going on? Please? Yeah? Please?

1114
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: Got a movie coming out, of course, wrote and produced,

1115
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: of course it started Wow why not? Uh it's called

1116
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: No Way Out? Yeah? Okay, yeah, So make sure I

1117
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: don't sound aggressive like it's it's it's it's a little action,

1118
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: it's a little suspense. Okay, it's pretty dope. Me and

1119
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: my Boycasper Smart. Where will we be able to find it?

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Speaker 1: To be young Casper? Yeah? God, Toby, Yeah, I can

1121
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: find it on Toby. And if you don't know, to

1122
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: Be's free. Had to add on the super Bowl. You know,

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01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I love it. I've seen it. Had

1124
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: people trying to figure out what you figure out what?

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what's going on my

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01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: TV blaming Auntie Wanda because she's drinking, Like, why have

1127
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: you got boat? She's like, I hate touching it, so

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: yet shout out to me, you know, written directed by

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: Chris Stokes. One of our twenty five I'll be expect

1130
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: one of the phone calls. You should yeah, you should expect.

1131
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: We'll be expecting phone calls. I mean, you know, Okay,

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: we'll talk letty. My name is Tank and this has

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Speaker 1: been the armby Money podcast, the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B and this has been one of the

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Speaker 1: authorities on all things on e not limited to a thing,

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Speaker 1: but it is yeah Money. R and B Money is

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Speaker 1: a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more

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Speaker 1: subscribe to and rate our show, and you can connect

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,800
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Speaker 1: the Real Tank. For the extended episode, subscribe to YouTube

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