Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you my old line and
Speaker 1: look over there. How is that culture? Yes, goodness ding
Speaker 1: Dong Lost cultures calling and I set the scene. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: We walk into the lobby of the building in which
Speaker 1: we were recording. Yes, episode my favorite part of the
Speaker 1: day so far, mine too. Yeah, because I give my
Speaker 1: idea of where I turn around. You are? I see you?
Speaker 1: Truly ravish you. You looked radiant this morning. Wait, I
Speaker 1: have to tell you. And like I've seen the jacket
Speaker 1: that you have on today before, there's something different about
Speaker 1: it today. There's like a confidence, is energy. It's a
Speaker 1: lustrous vegan leather. Holy fuck, and it really catches the light.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think it was the light of
Speaker 1: that lobby. Yeah, very like thaw from winter to spring.
Speaker 1: Those of what the days have been giving. Oh, the
Speaker 1: allergies are bad this year. Can I tell you something,
Speaker 1: I'm not even focusing on the allergies that I pull
Speaker 1: out my phone today and I look at the weather
Speaker 1: sort of app which I've been doing almost every day
Speaker 1: being in New York now, because you just never know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get, which is one of the great
Speaker 1: things about the city. Yes, seventy one degrees. It says
Speaker 1: that's not true. Not right now, it's not. But later
Speaker 1: back with me around one pm, two pm. You got
Speaker 1: You'll be shocked, you got it. So anyway, anyway, I
Speaker 1: see you and you're glowing, and then we catch up
Speaker 1: where it's such a lovely way to start off the day. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been excited all day because of this EP. Me too,
Speaker 1: me too, And we talk and we talk, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this noise, this sound comes out
Speaker 1: of your pocket, could have been coming out of me.
Speaker 1: It was, it could have come out of your holes.
Speaker 1: It was the song to Lie You when I by
Speaker 1: Howie Day And you want to say, who was that artist? Again?
Speaker 1: I said it Howie Day. And now Howie Day is
Speaker 1: sort of back. So I want you to know, like
Speaker 1: I didn't get up this morning and go on Spotify
Speaker 1: and sort of type in the Spotify Howie Day. What
Speaker 1: I did type it the Spotify this morning, and I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I think I can sort of
Speaker 1: a to see why I typed into Spotify tod Vertical Horizon.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the song Your God? And I'm nah,
Speaker 1: I just remember that song. That is to remember that
Speaker 1: song that is the year two thousand. That is literally
Speaker 1: ninety eight something that was in this the continuation slide
Speaker 1: show from when I graduated the fifth grade one hundred
Speaker 1: is that song that? And like, I guess the Vitamin
Speaker 1: C graduation song was played. I'm sure a Vertical Horizons.
Speaker 1: You're going from fifth to sixth that's a huge moment.
Speaker 1: We did sing that song at this You sang it,
Speaker 1: we sang it. We all had to learn it. We
Speaker 1: had such a flop graduation song my senior year. It
Speaker 1: was the Beatles. I even forget the flops. And the
Speaker 1: year before us they did Breakaway by Kelly Clarkton and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, they got that. They got this
Speaker 1: iconic group gets a set, real stand off. Oh no,
Speaker 1: Um okay. So but here's why I think I googled in,
Speaker 1: googled in to spotify um Vertical Horizon because we did
Speaker 1: Sluck the other name, Yes, and you did a bit
Speaker 1: as Carmen Electra. Yes. So Sluck is our lip sync
Speaker 1: filthy dance duo. We did it at Josh Sharpe's charity
Speaker 1: show at Knockdown Center. It was a big reunion, A
Speaker 1: lot of money was raised, our guests were there. It
Speaker 1: was Gorgeous Moment co hosts and um we performed Sluck
Speaker 1: and there was a bit in the Sluck mix that
Speaker 1: Bonan put together, which was Bonan as Karmen Electra. Carmen
Speaker 1: Electra is Tiffany Amberthisen Culture and Tiffany Emberthisen stars in
Speaker 1: the video for You're a God as like a sad
Speaker 1: pageant queen. Sad pageant media is something that I don't
Speaker 1: think there's enough of anymore. I think we need to
Speaker 1: go back to I think I think The Hole was
Speaker 1: the first sad pageant queen Hole the album cover Oh yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, there's sort of I'm a pageant girl,
Speaker 1: but like it's not sad. Yeah, it's not what you think, yes,
Speaker 1: and then so sad And it just made me so
Speaker 1: happy to think about this music video. I will watch
Speaker 1: it later today. But it's Tiffany Amber Thesten sort of
Speaker 1: as like a pageant queen who I think even wins,
Speaker 1: but it's not what she thinks it's gonna be. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you win the fact that's culture real
Speaker 1: Coadure number thirty eight. It doesn't matter if you win.
Speaker 1: And I think that if you're in the pageant then
Speaker 1: you've lost. That is actually a huge point. And we're
Speaker 1: all in the pageant. Jesus Christ, there's a real coude
Speaker 1: number thirty nine. We're all in the pageant in Us Christ,
Speaker 1: I have mine. I don't think so Honey is actually
Speaker 1: going to be controversial. And I'm just gonna say it's
Speaker 1: gonna be controversial, but everyone's gonna be on board with it. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so bold, I promise you this. Okay, So before
Speaker 1: we before we introduce the guests, um indictment watch um
Speaker 1: where the city is buzzing. The city feels different today.
Speaker 1: We are waiting for the indictment to come down. We're
Speaker 1: literally blocks away. We are blocks away from the indictment
Speaker 1: from not from Trump Towers, the indictment, which is of
Speaker 1: course different from the arraignment. The indictment happened, yes, but
Speaker 1: the how do you feel in this historic, unprecedented moment
Speaker 1: fucking horned up? Oh god, I feel so happy because
Speaker 1: the indictment is just realm the corner. The indictment already happened. Yep,
Speaker 1: He's been in and so then also I've been listening
Speaker 1: to great music and as a result of as a
Speaker 1: result of vertical Horizon coming on. I want you know.
Speaker 1: The next song was oh my God, Collide, No not
Speaker 1: even it was you say, and I was like, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be hitting it all day, am I
Speaker 1: gonna have an amazing day? That era we never really
Speaker 1: went back to that era, Isn't that sad? Let's bring
Speaker 1: it back in our culture of like on our back
Speaker 1: washy culture. We've never really genuinely quashy culture like we've
Speaker 1: like the light is not shown on that part of
Speaker 1: the culture in a long time. I really don't like
Speaker 1: backwashing culture. Doesn't but don't you. But but you understand
Speaker 1: exactly what it means, and I can also identify that
Speaker 1: we're in it, and I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1: You hear about this Harry Potter reboot, Mawana again, ma
Speaker 1: wanna again, Harry Potter again. I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't need it. Our guests are here, and that's
Speaker 1: really why I'm so happy. Let's talk about our guests,
Speaker 1: because that's actually the reason why I'm actually so happy.
Speaker 1: So I've been looking forward to this and we I
Speaker 1: did have to cancel yesterday, and I feel I had
Speaker 1: the guilt. Can I say, you're such a fucking bitch
Speaker 1: because you you almost ruined our guests, because, first of all,
Speaker 1: Exploration Live more like Lost Culture. They're here on this pod.
Speaker 1: I said, don't race now. It's actually one of my
Speaker 1: favorite pods, and it's one of my favorite I don't
Speaker 1: I love guys are so smart. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it, I love it. I love it. Was truly
Speaker 1: that thing today. I was listening to it and I
Speaker 1: almost just like they had our fucking enemies, George and
Speaker 1: Sam of Stradio lab Ulture's favorite new podcast, Um keep
Speaker 1: it in Um. They had them mom last week and
Speaker 1: it was one of those things. But where hold my hand?
Speaker 1: I was like, you know when you listen to a
Speaker 1: podcast and you're like, I just want to time in.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes you do know I can? They well, no,
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. Yeah, let go of me. Now,
Speaker 1: let go of me. Now. This is this is Exploration Live.
Speaker 1: This is their their new pod, not new podcast, Headgum.
Speaker 1: They've just newly gone to headgum. This is their live
Speaker 1: show at Union Haul Bellhouse. We cannot wait to talk
Speaker 1: to them, and then in some ways we already have
Speaker 1: off my prior to oh prior and Ryan. Okay, I
Speaker 1: say something. We were talking so much fucking shit and
Speaker 1: you'll never be able to hear it. But for now,
Speaker 1: while you're into your ears many, I love you. Got
Speaker 1: the funnest minutes of my life those minutes. What have
Speaker 1: you guys talked about in terms of intro culture with
Speaker 1: Sam and Jewel? I love that fascinating. Oh well I missed.
Speaker 1: I'm literally love my every person here throughout the smallest
Speaker 1: little table in the world. We're literally getting like a
Speaker 1: nice intimate Italian dinner right now. Yah, sitting on the
Speaker 1: indictment watch episode this We in midtown? Yeah happening. We
Speaker 1: in Midtown were actually on the most important avenue, ninth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's follow them down to the courthouse. We do a
Speaker 1: little bit Lady Gaga and look for evidence of I'm
Speaker 1: happy to help about however, I count sign after this,
Speaker 1: we're growing. I didn't hear a peep about this indictment
Speaker 1: until literally two three days ago. I was sitting with
Speaker 1: my other nanny friends watching the kids play, and when
Speaker 1: Nandy goes, can't believe you got indicted the other and
Speaker 1: he's like, it's about time, and I was like, who wait?
Speaker 1: And so that she's known as the political political. No,
Speaker 1: but she does have really strong opinions. No, exactly exactly
Speaker 1: because the personal is political. So sometimes it's like you
Speaker 1: parked your stroller inside, like you must be fucked up
Speaker 1: think that. It's like, yeah, that is politics. Who takes
Speaker 1: up space? Where were we? Where were we? Intro culture
Speaker 1: and ant but you don't always have guests. Well it's yeah,
Speaker 1: so guests are new for us, so we're really like
Speaker 1: feeling it out. To be honest, do you hate it?
Speaker 1: No? No No, no, no, to be honest, we're not anti.
Speaker 1: We're just not there yet, like eause you are ways
Speaker 1: you had guests, yeah, yeah, but for intro, like for us,
Speaker 1: it's like okay, so that was like I actually went
Speaker 1: to like complete giddy joy land you intro Now, I'm
Speaker 1: all warm, I'm ready to go. Yeah. We are too
Speaker 1: shy to do talking in front of people without them
Speaker 1: like yeah, we know it's for the greater good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like the podcast starts and where like can
Speaker 1: you guys go for it and like we need a second,
Speaker 1: like um, high, I guess I'm the one who's sort
Speaker 1: of doing it now. I love we're feeling it out
Speaker 1: and we've always been open that. It's like our process
Speaker 1: is pretty loose, and that's okay, that's cool to be loose.
Speaker 1: Imagine if we did that. I'm not not just so
Speaker 1: that's amazing, you know, I will. Yes, one of the
Speaker 1: intro things is I'm always wanting to be like participating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to make him into a list of
Speaker 1: like like I had a thought. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: that I have. But also, like you, it's so smart
Speaker 1: to do an intro because, like you, if the gas
Speaker 1: comes in from the beginning and they're just like driving,
Speaker 1: what's the tone, what's the energy? Like, it could be freaky.
Speaker 1: It could be freaky. I think this is the opposite
Speaker 1: side of this point. Are you ready? I think? Okay,
Speaker 1: So the tails, if you will. The tails you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about post hang out check in culture. It
Speaker 1: was on yes, okay, so important post hanging out check
Speaker 1: in like texting someone that was really fun. Yeah, totally right.
Speaker 1: That is like, well that is okay, Well, but I
Speaker 1: think nowt least that's something about like before the hangout, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to lubricate up to the hangout. It's like on the day,
Speaker 1: on the day of, you're texting to the Hey, can't
Speaker 1: wait to see you, right, and then like ramps up
Speaker 1: within the last fifteen minutes, leading it right to the hang.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's empty in here. I'm in the back,
Speaker 1: like weird. I'm realizing whatever anticipation is what this is
Speaker 1: really coming down to. Yeah, And there's nothing hotter than anticipation.
Speaker 1: And we're here. We're like, as you guys are talking,
Speaker 1: We're like, it's a crazy task to be like silent,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's so and like
Speaker 1: we're Mike, So it's not even like I'm like covering
Speaker 1: my men, especially when you're such a conversationalist by trade,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Something, it's that down so
Speaker 1: not me, but it's true you need the desire comes
Speaker 1: from exactly, yes, and we were desiring you while you
Speaker 1: were doing it feels like okay. So when it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here early, I just I'm grabbed his table like
Speaker 1: that to me is always so anxious. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if I really know the person. First time I'm anxious,
Speaker 1: I'm like three percent horny out to me, i'd be
Speaker 1: three percent horny exactly because can you imagine if I
Speaker 1: texted you and I was like, hey, just grabbed a table.
Speaker 1: Guess my outfits a little crazy today? You know what?
Speaker 1: My shirts so yellow? Yeah? Can I sometimes not texting
Speaker 1: that little flurry of message sometimes that's so intense, Like
Speaker 1: it's very much like I'll be in the yellow shirt
Speaker 1: with the rose fine, what's the row? Okay, I thought you.
Speaker 1: I thought you. I'll be in the yew show with
Speaker 1: the holding a row saying that's what you're guys never
Speaker 1: hung out with Natalie. No, I like losing you guys,
Speaker 1: like so hard right away, so low, like right, because
Speaker 1: the flurry can kind of be like we're friends, we're friends,
Speaker 1: how we're talking, and when you just like wait, like
Speaker 1: I meet you there at too, and you just like
Speaker 1: sit there waiting to meet them with a little like
Speaker 1: like Penn Pale meeting up with your last lover. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, I wonder
Speaker 1: if they'll show up, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we'll meet at the bridge in four years if you
Speaker 1: still want this, if you still in the city. That
Speaker 1: is one of the most intense movies of scenes of right,
Speaker 1: because Steve's not like, hey, I'm here. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know, they didn't text each other. They
Speaker 1: did not text. That's what it's like if you meet
Speaker 1: up with someone and don't text before. That's what I see.
Speaker 1: But that's the bullshit, though, that's the that's such bullshit,
Speaker 1: because here's the real The real fact is that even
Speaker 1: Miranda and Steve would have had to text each other
Speaker 1: to be like you're coming right right, they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: bowen shut up. This is where rom comes. Fuck us up.
Speaker 1: You guys say shut up, We say shut up each other. Wait,
Speaker 1: could you say also one more? We're not there, you
Speaker 1: guys don't. You will never be there because that is
Speaker 1: not the ball, will never be You don't want to
Speaker 1: be there. You don't want you don't see the never.
Speaker 1: One time, one time I was with Natalie and then
Speaker 1: Francesca do it was there by the way, this things
Speaker 1: the amazing song. Yeah it no, no, she's a project time.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But I've been a KA pop song to
Speaker 1: Celeste on Saturday and then they go, this sounds like
Speaker 1: a Francesca song. I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: sounds like you made it, and actually compliment to both
Speaker 1: the song and Francesca absolutely. But one time I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with Natalie and then Francesca was telling this story.
Speaker 1: It was like wild story about like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was about. I think it was
Speaker 1: about her mom. Yeah, Francesca did something to her mom.
Speaker 1: And then and then you said you did that, And
Speaker 1: there's something about that. It's not really reading as I'm
Speaker 1: saying it, but there's something about the infunction that is
Speaker 1: really it was a little like she said a same
Speaker 1: you and the last quiet at the table, and it
Speaker 1: was like, what but this is but this really drills
Speaker 1: down into my theory, the theory that we've had for years,
Speaker 1: which is that the word that is so it's one
Speaker 1: of the best. It's funny. It's really all things. It's
Speaker 1: a noun. It's a noun. It's a weaponized pronoun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pronoun as a pronoun. And it also it can act
Speaker 1: here it can be adjectively too. It's like she was
Speaker 1: so that, oh my god, verb energy, that verb energy,
Speaker 1: say that verb energy big verb energy is titled said
Speaker 1: and the now that it's a verb energy and that
Speaker 1: whatever not married to it, it's it's giving obsession. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm drawn to the guests. Actually, I was on I
Speaker 1: was on both your programs, watching um all the reels,
Speaker 1: a real talk about reels, because now they're saying do reels?
Speaker 1: Do read them better? Is what's happening. That's beautiful because
Speaker 1: while it was real and now let's do reels. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've gone. I remember doing Be Real
Speaker 1: and being like, I know at some point this will
Speaker 1: be over, but I cannot imagine it, like this is
Speaker 1: such a huge part of my life. And then literally
Speaker 1: like flip, four days later, it was like completely done,
Speaker 1: Like I can't wait for the like I don't say that.
Speaker 1: What I want to say is this, like the be
Speaker 1: real like uber doc thing like will never die. And
Speaker 1: then they did It's French, by the way, so it'll
Speaker 1: be French uber doc. Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so not that they're so live in the oh, but
Speaker 1: they're so live in the moment. They're so live in
Speaker 1: the moment friends identity, They're so French. I was at
Speaker 1: a bachelorette party this weekend. Really, yeah you did that,
Speaker 1: you and the bride and all of the new sisters.
Speaker 1: I made our listeners and readers and lovers and their
Speaker 1: new sisters of course, and wait, talk about wait, but
Speaker 1: what I need to say is at the bachelotte party,
Speaker 1: it was be real. It was time to be real.
Speaker 1: And I announced and I was like, literally seventeen girls.
Speaker 1: I only knew like three of them. The other ones
Speaker 1: were like the other friends. And I was like, it's
Speaker 1: time to be real. And it was like blinklink like
Speaker 1: you know. They were they like for why o you
Speaker 1: n no? No, wait, I'm not like a master speller, Charlie. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you said this on your part. Are you actually
Speaker 1: bad at spelling? Would? Can you spell horrendous? Wait? Don't
Speaker 1: do honey? Do you know you're nervous or something? You're like,
Speaker 1: They're not gonna make me like spell herrect. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: like the word I'm trying to spell, and Google's like,
Speaker 1: we don't know what you want to. You don't know
Speaker 1: what even you what even your suggests, We don't know
Speaker 1: what the directions taken in. And I just have to
Speaker 1: send the word as is to the friend and be like,
Speaker 1: what do you make of this? Well, that's like me
Speaker 1: with knowing what words mean. Like oftentimes Bowen will say
Speaker 1: something like He'll be like, oh, like I don't use
Speaker 1: words obsequious or I really connect with you when you
Speaker 1: say I know my heart, I don't know my words
Speaker 1: my heart, because that to me is you know, you
Speaker 1: can't be what you can't see. No, what can I
Speaker 1: say something about the knowing words thing, which is kind
Speaker 1: of like what you said is that if you're the
Speaker 1: only one who knows the word, then you suck. You
Speaker 1: actually get yes and yeah, no, no, no, but hey
Speaker 1: you do something that's like why do you why do
Speaker 1: you need that? And then also you actually have a
Speaker 1: wide latitude because no one's going to check you on it,
Speaker 1: dequace or whatever. People are like, well, take your word
Speaker 1: for it, I'm using it wrong. Yeah no, And wait,
Speaker 1: I was on Radio Lab Live show and I used
Speaker 1: what word was? And I used a word and I
Speaker 1: was with I've been there, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: did I just pronounced that wrong? And she was like yes,
Speaker 1: and it was like in the belhouse people, and I
Speaker 1: was like it was like the first thing I said, like,
Speaker 1: first word out of my mouth? What was the word?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Is there nothing more embarrassing? Aren't you
Speaker 1: so embarrassed for someone? Maybe you aren't. Aren't you so
Speaker 1: embarrassed for someone who uses the word like non plused wrong?
Speaker 1: And you're like, that's actually the opposite me. Yes, I
Speaker 1: feel humiliated when someone says non, plus I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm always like, I'm with you. No, you know
Speaker 1: what did it sounds like it's sounds but to me,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, we understand. Yeah, asked of it, all right.
Speaker 1: But there's like a tribalism going on already in this room.
Speaker 1: So what you think. That's totally And we have the
Speaker 1: same kind of microphones, and they have the same kind
Speaker 1: of microphone they have. Oh my god, we have something.
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'd rather be asked. This is not
Speaker 1: what we should have wanted out on it. And it's
Speaker 1: hard it comes up because Charlie, I'm gonna go quickly
Speaker 1: com please. The other thing of using like vocab words
Speaker 1: is that you say it and it's like, well, nobody
Speaker 1: knows what that means. So you have actually said nothing.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You're not communicating it. I want
Speaker 1: to say there was an era where bowing, Oh no,
Speaker 1: you know you might even know what I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: because this word haunted me. Oh no, I wonder what
Speaker 1: it was. Is the word well yes, can you guess um?
Speaker 1: Um no? No, no, no, no. The word was June. Wait.
Speaker 1: I have a whole thing with this. What's your please?
Speaker 1: What's your this is your culture? Sace. I have a
Speaker 1: word on my phone that I read in books that
Speaker 1: I'm like, those are cool words. And I didn't know
Speaker 1: what that meant. And the one I just said, go
Speaker 1: ahead bow shoe with me at my most twenty four
Speaker 1: year old self, thirty, I was not doing it at thirty.
Speaker 1: I gave up to June. Like after Hillary loss, I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what elitism is over? You're like,
Speaker 1: do you think they're saying Jejune in Trump country? To
Speaker 1: understand the whole time? That was the whole op ed
Speaker 1: in the New York Times about people who wait, but
Speaker 1: what is like? Um like like you're stupid, You're dumb,
Speaker 1: You're you're immature, your live Yeah, well you. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys noticed this before, but before Charlie
Speaker 1: sort of like slayed a French accent. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to be this way. It's another actually thing with you,
Speaker 1: it's another thing. And it reminded me of the other
Speaker 1: night where Charlie and I were talking about singing and
Speaker 1: Charlie sort of turned away and like sang beautifully and
Speaker 1: then I sort of like went like, excuse me. I
Speaker 1: heard that, and I was like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: did stop. I'm so embarrassed. I thought it was alone.
Speaker 1: It was like sort of perfect describe it. It was
Speaker 1: like really healthy, which shocked me because like why because
Speaker 1: we were in a basement of the Knockdown Center and
Speaker 1: I felt like everyone had been screaming and sort of
Speaker 1: slaying and then to hear this like healthy, sort of
Speaker 1: gorgeous resonant, like the perfect vibrato come out of and
Speaker 1: he had just told me about his acapella culture. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did acapella and Yale University. Yeah, I'm not loving
Speaker 1: the way I'm coming off on this episode, but why
Speaker 1: would you not love it? You need to be the Bowen.
Speaker 1: That means that you're love No, no, this that is
Speaker 1: not even true. Course you understand like actually being the
Speaker 1: bow Yeah Bowen and Charlie both French and white from
Speaker 1: white French white singers. It's apologietsis okay, it's pinky in
Speaker 1: the brain, that's yeah. You guys traded off though, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's like the truth is the truth, of course,
Speaker 1: but like you also like to play what you like
Speaker 1: to play? Like you know what I mean totally, yes, totally,
Speaker 1: that's so true, so true. Like you can be like
Speaker 1: like smart downwards whatever, but it's like I like pinky,
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, you know what I mean I feel
Speaker 1: and we're actually wider and broader than that. But in
Speaker 1: the moment, it's like what do I play off of?
Speaker 1: And bred and broader than that? I love to play at.
Speaker 1: It's an act of course when I don't know stuff. Obviously.
Speaker 1: You guys remember that we saw Sluck not three days ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, fun. It was amazing. Did you want
Speaker 1: the power of fuck? Wait? And the audience, the audience
Speaker 1: really wanted sluck. Can I say something? Actually, you can
Speaker 1: always say something. I was watching some of the Sluck
Speaker 1: stories people where people were taking stories of Sluck problem.
Speaker 1: They were happ ring the other co hosts on that stage,
Speaker 1: Oh what did you? It was just a lot of
Speaker 1: people being like, I definitely here's what I'll say. But
Speaker 1: when Boone and I were about to go up, huh
Speaker 1: as fluck and short of shut down the night, I
Speaker 1: turned to Bowen. We're in our Sluck outfits, which are
Speaker 1: essentially crop tops that are disgusting full of red lipsticks.
Speaker 1: Then we wear a little little tiny underwear and they
Speaker 1: basically and I turned to Boone and I said, I
Speaker 1: can't believe that everyone is going to be behind us,
Speaker 1: that all of our peers are going to be behind us,
Speaker 1: and the audience is not only going to see us perform,
Speaker 1: but them try to perform behind. They did it. They
Speaker 1: were not performed. They did not really you would think
Speaker 1: if I were on stage on display watching someone perform,
Speaker 1: no matter what, I'm going to give you a layer
Speaker 1: of active watching. Yeah, definitely going to be smiling, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and what did you see? Just kind of I saw,
Speaker 1: I saw about seventy percent slacked off and but not
Speaker 1: by the way, not you guys, and it wasn't even
Speaker 1: an act. I was so enthralled. Yeah, I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: it was one of the best mixes ever. And that
Speaker 1: was Yan makes the mixes because I'm we're not gonna
Speaker 1: believe this, but inept on the computer. I famously did
Speaker 1: not believe that my computer made PDFs for about six years,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't when I was at NYU, I had
Speaker 1: to send my send my script to City Green so
Speaker 1: she could print out my friend because her computer could
Speaker 1: madfs and I couldn't and she was like, I can't
Speaker 1: even engage with you on this because it's so stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make you feel bad. But your
Speaker 1: computer can make PDFs you because you had virus. I'm
Speaker 1: sort of famously always on born. And so by the way,
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. I love this stuff. What can't
Speaker 1: she do? What can't she do? Wait? You know what
Speaker 1: they've started to doing porn now started to do is
Speaker 1: it's like the product placement in porn now is getting crazy,
Speaker 1: like like literally I don't even don't even yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I watched a porn the other day. This is my
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey later not not about porn,
Speaker 1: not about but you go did you see this one?
Speaker 1: Did you see this one? Um? I was watching porn
Speaker 1: and at the very top of the porn was um.
Speaker 1: Someone reaches over and goes, have you read this new
Speaker 1: book Isaac Oliver? And it was and I was like,
Speaker 1: it was like, this is really good. And then the
Speaker 1: other guy goes, oh, yeah, actually was at his book signing.
Speaker 1: He's really funny. Wait and then the fuck that can be?
Speaker 1: How It's like though, by the way, life like actually
Speaker 1: like totally hook up. It's like you're like in someone's
Speaker 1: room and you're like, hey, but did you read that?
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, I thought it was cool, and
Speaker 1: then you do start sucking and like that is actually
Speaker 1: how it goes. It's completely scripted to life. I want that.
Speaker 1: I don't was the one that you showed me a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago on the pot the best. This is
Speaker 1: the funniest I ever seen. It was the beginning of
Speaker 1: a porn guys. And this guy goes, actually, something, it's
Speaker 1: so funny and just pulls up a clip from Jennifer
Speaker 1: Coolidge from She's like, gay guys, you know how to
Speaker 1: do stuff? And then you can see it in picture.
Speaker 1: There's a little rectangle at the bottom right corner Jennifer Coolidge.
Speaker 1: No shot of the phone, no like reverse shot, it's
Speaker 1: just I And then and then he puts the phone
Speaker 1: down and he goes, that's so funny, and then he
Speaker 1: goes to the guy she's right, though, gay guys, do
Speaker 1: you know how to do stuff? Wait? That's so good,
Speaker 1: that's so smart. Well, I think it's cool. It's like
Speaker 1: what time like now? Is it like from another time period?
Speaker 1: Like it was post single all the way to something prison,
Speaker 1: but single all the way it came out during Oh god,
Speaker 1: I hope they didn't have omicron back in the video.
Speaker 1: I don't think they care at all. I bet they
Speaker 1: didn't test on that shoot. Do you think they're testing
Speaker 1: for COVID porn shoots? Of course we're testing to so confident.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you're testing? Because the vibe is
Speaker 1: that's like, of course we test, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was like, yeah, this is a safe shoot. Wait,
Speaker 1: I'm like, can I just say something that I have
Speaker 1: been like miming stuff to bow and so not appropriate,
Speaker 1: and then it's like you have to stop and like
Speaker 1: explain it. I was in a Headgum is having us
Speaker 1: test whenever we go, like he and I like we
Speaker 1: don't want to know. Yeah, it is like so scary
Speaker 1: every time because it's like what if And then it'd
Speaker 1: be like we're in the office and we're like okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go home. That's like one time I
Speaker 1: was hanging out with Less and Bran. We got in
Speaker 1: the car together, this was like Pete COVID and it
Speaker 1: was like I was like, honestly, I'm just gonna test
Speaker 1: because I'm like feeling a little weird. We were all
Speaker 1: already in the car together driving to the beach winter
Speaker 1: to go have a little beach day. We got our sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, feeling weird. I put
Speaker 1: the test that I do it in my nose and
Speaker 1: put it in a little console in the car. We're driving, driving,
Speaker 1: and it was like looking good looking at the less
Speaker 1: the test. Like after fifteen minutes, I was like positive.
Speaker 1: We were like we just like pulled the car over,
Speaker 1: like all got out and we're like, what's the plan.
Speaker 1: I had to sit like forty feet away from them.
Speaker 1: I ate my sandwich and then we're like, let's drive back,
Speaker 1: windows down and just kind of and then it was fun,
Speaker 1: no problem. Yeah. I think when you have COVID and
Speaker 1: roommates and it's like, okay, we're gonna kind of try
Speaker 1: to keep it separate. But at a certain point it's like,
Speaker 1: good luck, good good luck. Didn't you have COVID? Very
Speaker 1: bad thing. I just cut it immediately. I was scared
Speaker 1: and was really anxious play. I feel like you have
Speaker 1: a complex, like it wasn't that bad, but like you
Speaker 1: were coughing up alone. It was for a long time
Speaker 1: it was like a month I heard about this. He
Speaker 1: group it was no, no, no, and we were all embarrassed. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassed. I'm saying we were all very concerned. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that was the time when the group chat also
Speaker 1: became like a doctor's association in every group chat. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like in COVID. So it was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: heard about someone who still has it a month later,
Speaker 1: Like it was literally like I think it was like
Speaker 1: either George or Sam or someone just like said to
Speaker 1: our group that, like, Charlie has it period, it's bad.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I was like, oh my god, no,
Speaker 1: it's like crazy, I can't believe. Like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: that it's bad. It's bad, Yeah exactly, but it was bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like Charlie has it like bad, Like it
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it was just like in
Speaker 1: retrospect it like it wasn't that good. But the narrative
Speaker 1: around it was it was like it could turn for
Speaker 1: the worst and it was like it wasn't ever going
Speaker 1: away and there was no testing. Also, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was me and my like kind of random roommate
Speaker 1: shout out to Amy and we both had it yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you she does ready, and we were still no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to do it quickly. Some people here like
Speaker 1: some people, Oh she moved to Los Angeles. Well I'm
Speaker 1: moving back. Okay, you are had it? Are serious? Had
Speaker 1: it with the city? Serious here? Don't everyone? I can't
Speaker 1: where I'm living. It's my whole family's here. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's got I gotta be in Manhattan, right, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm getting lunch with my mom after this. Are you
Speaker 1: seriously you guys are doing a raid un Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are doing all of a sudden. It's like sort
Speaker 1: of become this thing of like talking about like family
Speaker 1: and having lived here and so that I feel like
Speaker 1: it's giving a segue into the question before we do,
Speaker 1: I just want to say he shout out IO before
Speaker 1: I and Io was the last time we had a
Speaker 1: political episode. So this is our most political episodes since
Speaker 1: I was on. And that was that was after omar Rosa.
Speaker 1: That was Omarossa quit the staff quum and there was
Speaker 1: a long political lull until right now. Yes, for years politics. No, well,
Speaker 1: we took a break from that. Yeah. Yeah. We had
Speaker 1: a joke that was like what if every news outlet
Speaker 1: like went dark, and only we could have reported on
Speaker 1: January six, like it would have just been us on
Speaker 1: the ground, Like we are so disgusted in repulse what
Speaker 1: we are seeing here today. It's horrible, and we understood that.
Speaker 1: We're just it's terrible, feel weird. But this is like
Speaker 1: sort of the second political episode. Yeah, and you chose
Speaker 1: the right people. Yeah, I can tell, Yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1: These are politicals. Every exploration is political, and someone you're
Speaker 1: thinking of a better world alter reality. That is politics period.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's like the thing when you text
Speaker 1: your friend and they don't respond for a little while.
Speaker 1: Ideas are political, They're the most dangerous thing we have
Speaker 1: slash back. Oh my god. Ideas are revolution. Ideas are
Speaker 1: a new page. Ideas are something to follow. Ideas. Ideas
Speaker 1: can't be killed, Ideas can be heightened. I just can
Speaker 1: be explored. Yea, and chills you guys. You realize you
Speaker 1: guys are doing that every day, and you know we
Speaker 1: never were able to explain what the podcast was before.
Speaker 1: Right now? Yeah, actually, like I want to steal that
Speaker 1: as copy. Yeah, you literally killed ideas cannot be her.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that now you guys are
Speaker 1: in your guest Era Bone is too busy. I am
Speaker 1: not too busy. What do you mean you can't be
Speaker 1: on the podcast on? No, shut up, you can barely
Speaker 1: even do this podcast. I need to be on with you.
Speaker 1: We need to be on. That's well, actually is it's
Speaker 1: like we're like, we would love to ask it. That's
Speaker 1: like they wouldn't do something like, well, that's how we
Speaker 1: felt about this one. Yeah doing it. We were like,
Speaker 1: I mean, ask them, but we're not free Larson, right, no,
Speaker 1: it has never been on the pod. But but but
Speaker 1: the one good thing Brady Larsen Captain Marvel herself. Wait,
Speaker 1: the one good thing that's happening in La recently is
Speaker 1: there's a queer line dancing thing that happens, which is
Speaker 1: like short for me, but I definitely will go not
Speaker 1: even cotton Eye Joe, like they would call that j June.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't. Anyway, here's what I want to say, and
Speaker 1: then we can all let go. But what I want
Speaker 1: to figuezing so hard? Brie Larson went to queer line
Speaker 1: Dancer's uppen you were there? No, but Jared, oh good.
Speaker 1: I like when a celebrity decides that she needs levity
Speaker 1: and joy in her life and she turns to gay people.
Speaker 1: So great first to do that, Judy. Judy was the
Speaker 1: first forty yeah yeah for a little fun for ones,
Speaker 1: little fun anyway, So yes, that's the one good thing
Speaker 1: that's happening in la is Bree Larson at Queer Line
Speaker 1: dancing Silver Lake at club. And can I say something,
Speaker 1: You two are Bree Larson. Yeah in many ways, don't
Speaker 1: say don't say we're no. I know, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I said that. That was so weird. We are
Speaker 1: Bree Lar, we are Larson Larson. And we're talking about
Speaker 1: the girl from oh yeah and I Humors movie movie
Speaker 1: she was the sister right in which one the sister. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And that's actually a little culture number ninety eight. Brie
Speaker 1: Larson was the sister in train Rat. Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: amazing because well that's so funny too, like your lark
Speaker 1: should play like a sister, like yeah, yeah, sister. Sister
Speaker 1: actually was very much the sister. Yeah until until she
Speaker 1: literally won an oscar, right one day, she literally won
Speaker 1: an oscar. Before that, she had been really the sister.
Speaker 1: In fact, she was the daughter in the United States
Speaker 1: of tera r. Never mind what did she win an
Speaker 1: oscar when she was like twenty two? In room? She
Speaker 1: won a very young you were kind of room right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we want a very young girl that was very young
Speaker 1: of her. He put us in room. This is very
Speaker 1: much room, and we got a couple of Tromblays and
Speaker 1: a couple of breaths. We're putting Jacob in the trunk.
Speaker 1: I think you can I say something if if this
Speaker 1: I'm literally saying right now, I feel no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I feel that Toby Bowen means to be Tromblay. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you something shit goes down in here. You
Speaker 1: and I are running the show. Wait, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say I think so were the ones who
Speaker 1: have to like be protected? I think so. It's like,
Speaker 1: but we have such seeds of hope within us. Anything.
Speaker 1: Are you guys are identify as more mommy or daddy? WHOA,
Speaker 1: Oh that's really hard. I actually think I have an answer.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's daddy. Actually, you do
Speaker 1: you have like directions and like general knowledge like stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I'm stubborn sometimes yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like, all right, I identify as daddy in
Speaker 1: that like I'm allowed to be like an idiot and
Speaker 1: not know anything, and there's some like beautiful girl who's
Speaker 1: going to take care of me? Is also true? Yeah
Speaker 1: I know, Well actually am I growing up? And I
Speaker 1: will go there For a second, I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen to me? Like where's my jacket?
Speaker 1: Like where my shoes? Like whatever? And then and like
Speaker 1: I was like, are there girls like me? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I don't know. And then I looked
Speaker 1: at my dad, who has my same face, and he's
Speaker 1: like my Mom's like, if you eat an apple and
Speaker 1: leave the core wherever you're sitting one more time, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm like I could do that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do that. And I'm like when someone's birthday,
Speaker 1: it's like you just get a wife, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Oh my god, what's up with you guys?
Speaker 1: Why I think you guys? Think you too? Are absolutely daddy?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, what are you? I'm definitely I think
Speaker 1: both of them. And I'm like I'm I'm like, it's okay, energy,
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not a big deal energy, But also like,
Speaker 1: but I also think that, and I'm perceptibly. Yes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I also think, Matt, you have like strong opinions, like
Speaker 1: a mommy with like a lot of care, like I think, true,
Speaker 1: I'm mommy because I don't. I also I am not
Speaker 1: like a reprimander. I'm not like a disciplinarian. I'm more
Speaker 1: just like, Well, I think we made a mistake today's right,
Speaker 1: And I think your mommy bone because you give special attention.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, quiet power good lining. Quiet power is so.
Speaker 1: But see sometimes quiet power is just me going. I
Speaker 1: don't have anything to say. I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: a thought. Right, she's busy, she needs a little time
Speaker 1: to be bent blank, I'm tired, mommy, and that it's tired. Wait,
Speaker 1: we're talking about childhoods. I think this is the time
Speaker 1: to ask me. We're like an hour and we haven't
Speaker 1: asked the question. Take it away, Bowen, We're gonna ask
Speaker 1: you both. Let's start with Natalie. Oh, Natalie, what is
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say culture is for me? Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks guys, Well mine is gonna be And I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about this obviously. Well, we hope the Awesome Powers franchise.
Speaker 1: Oh has anyone done that recently? No? But actually it
Speaker 1: didn't come up recently because Bowen revealed that as a
Speaker 1: child he dressed up as Austin Powers and you just
Speaker 1: it up. I just did. I just did. Said it
Speaker 1: was Bible camp and people went crazy. Yeah, that's gonna crush.
Speaker 1: That was because it's culture, because it's at the time,
Speaker 1: at the time I think still talk about your favorite movie,
Speaker 1: your favorite moments, Yeah, your favorite supporting characters so much. Well,
Speaker 1: I was a strong I had a strong connection to
Speaker 1: the Beyonce movie, which I think is and that one
Speaker 1: I used to watch, Like my friend with cover would
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we have to study tonight, but let's
Speaker 1: just put on gold mat yeah, like and it just
Speaker 1: like it was just perful, like first of all, smoke
Speaker 1: in a pancake pipe and buns like that stuff. Like
Speaker 1: I think it's still in me and it's not deep down,
Speaker 1: it's at the top. Yeah. And I recently have been
Speaker 1: getting into James Bond, right, I watched Yeah, and my
Speaker 1: family I had all sisters, Like we didn't do any
Speaker 1: boy movies, Like we didn't touch like scarfet I don't
Speaker 1: know what, like whatever, I don't care about that. But
Speaker 1: so we never watch that. We watch awesome Powers, And
Speaker 1: now I'm watching James Bond for the first time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this has really strong echoes of Awesome Powers
Speaker 1: and its flow in that direction. Yeah, but at a
Speaker 1: certain point, Awesome Powers must have inspired James Bond. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? No, exactly, there's no Skyfall
Speaker 1: without spire, Lily. I think the sexuality of Awesome Powers
Speaker 1: is also like exactly on point, true to life like realism. Yeah, perfect,
Speaker 1: Like that's how you feel. He's so horny, he's so
Speaker 1: shag oriented, like and you know what, Actually, I like
Speaker 1: forgot about this, but like one of the most like powerful,
Speaker 1: helpful like mechanisms of thinking in my life has been
Speaker 1: like when Awesome Powers loses his mojo, yes, and when
Speaker 1: he finds can we talk about this yet? Because I
Speaker 1: think about I think about mojo all the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I think gram Tell. I think my Heather Graham
Speaker 1: telling him while they're escaping the moon, like He's like,
Speaker 1: what I mean, my mojo? And and and then she
Speaker 1: said something like and trust me, You're gonna get the girl.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's so Heather Ground we love And
Speaker 1: this actually is a big announcement. This I have an announcement,
Speaker 1: Heather Graham has won the last culture He says icon
Speaker 1: a ward. Um, this is amazing, Heather Graham, God, you
Speaker 1: deserve this and you would you join a very short
Speaker 1: list of people that have who wanted last year. Adele.
Speaker 1: You guys are coming to the awards, by the way,
Speaker 1: I can't Oh, I can't announce it the fuck. I
Speaker 1: know that was scary, but you have to be You'll
Speaker 1: have to be out the awards. You warm. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: but might even nominated? Um, okay, so yeah, so pegram
Speaker 1: the mojoy like and then what what do you feel like? Wait?
Speaker 1: You know what's like? Probably the back? Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: the mojo. So sometimes in your life you're just like,
Speaker 1: what's up with me? Ye? Wrong? And I like that
Speaker 1: you know what? Me too? No, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: now back. It's there, and it's such a thing of
Speaker 1: like you lost it and it's coming back to you. Right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes your mojo is just gone and then you feel
Speaker 1: it come back and you're like, I'm randy baby, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's so honest about it to you. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not feeling good, right, And it's that's actually
Speaker 1: very like open, it's very sweet. There's something like he's
Speaker 1: a good model of masculine because you can't deny he
Speaker 1: is that man, you know what I mean. Also, he's
Speaker 1: he's gonna come forward and say like my mojo's gone.
Speaker 1: And also yeah, is very vulnerable. Yeah dad, Okay, I
Speaker 1: was I was gonna say change the underway, but I
Speaker 1: was saying, Mike Myers, never been sex to your job.
Speaker 1: Then in that segment of gold Member when he's singing, daddy,
Speaker 1: wasn't there? Absolutely, And I'm like Mike Myers, Mike Myers, sexy.
Speaker 1: Can I also tell you one of my favorite parts
Speaker 1: of any of the whole franchise is ladies and tent
Speaker 1: of them mister bet Bakara and Elvis Costello. Do you
Speaker 1: get when you fall love Elizabeth Hurley like dancing on
Speaker 1: the like bus? Yeah? I love so sweet? And also
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Hurley, I have an announcement to make you have
Speaker 1: one of the last tho reasons. I congratulations Elizabeth. You
Speaker 1: have never looked better. And you have a hot son too. Yes,
Speaker 1: and her son is like a model. Give it to him,
Speaker 1: give it to him. No, I've seen his acting and
Speaker 1: in order to win I kind of wanted you have
Speaker 1: to be a actress. Actress. Yeah, yeah, so you do.
Speaker 1: Britney Spears and Goldmember in the beginning, sorry were chasing him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're in like a dance circle and they like
Speaker 1: circa right, and he's like doing this little thing. We
Speaker 1: remember the scene where he's in the golf cart trying
Speaker 1: to like get so funny. It's on us, right, no exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I love about them too is that
Speaker 1: like I watched them and it's like the structure of
Speaker 1: the movies really is it's like sketch, sketch, sketch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's every little set piece where it's like and here's
Speaker 1: the joke for the next few minutes, right, and then
Speaker 1: they move on and they're like, okay, so they're in
Speaker 1: the hot tub and you can't see the words. It's
Speaker 1: like that's the or it's like I think it's covering
Speaker 1: his penis, right, he's pissing in the fountain. Always got
Speaker 1: me the like shadow they would do of like like
Speaker 1: like she was having a beat or he was having
Speaker 1: a baby and she was like, oh, like you know
Speaker 1: all that shit like slapstick. You know, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: And of course, um gold Member was important culture because
Speaker 1: It's also teachable culture because a lot of little gay
Speaker 1: white boys at the time were like, I'm a whole
Speaker 1: lot of woman. And now you look back and you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean? How many times did
Speaker 1: I say I was a whole lot of woman, like
Speaker 1: in the like about in the high school hallway? Like
Speaker 1: probably too many? Right? Right, Well, there's at hours to
Speaker 1: reckon with. Yeah, like we fully endorse it. No, not exactly,
Speaker 1: no notes, but notes. Wait, it's time to ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you asked Charlie Barday, It's now time for you to
Speaker 1: hell us what was the culture that made you say
Speaker 1: culture was for you? And I actually cheated and asked
Speaker 1: him this question the other night. You're sort of having
Speaker 1: a conversation in the era where I thought this wasn't
Speaker 1: going to happen, wasn't sing And now everyone gets it
Speaker 1: wasn't actually right before I found out what I was
Speaker 1: dealing with, right right, And now, if you're a vocalist
Speaker 1: in the period and I'm looking at you in the eyes,
Speaker 1: I see you queen. Yeah. Um, now the world gets
Speaker 1: to know. Okay, I'm wanting to change because I'm inspired
Speaker 1: by that. But I'm gonna sick with it, and for me,
Speaker 1: my true answer is Star Magazine, Jen and Brad divorce.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wow. Okay, So when you say that,
Speaker 1: do you sort of mean like when that that feeling
Speaker 1: of looking at like the supermarket rack and it being
Speaker 1: everywhere like like like that sort of tabloid culture. It's
Speaker 1: a tabloid culture. But we had them in the house.
Speaker 1: So it's like I really read Star Magazine every week
Speaker 1: like you had him in the house. Yea. My mom
Speaker 1: had them, and I was like engaged and invested, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Reader, Yeah, every whatever day
Speaker 1: of the week it was, it would come. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were like I was like, let me check up, let
Speaker 1: me follow up. And also it's like there's a whole
Speaker 1: culture of like celebrity evaluation that happens there, right, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, like like like like the fashion police. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: totally like because and it started there because it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing I show with my
Speaker 1: mom who I'm getting line within hi minute? Like where
Speaker 1: you guys, it wasn't actually all gonna be about my
Speaker 1: mom too. Well, oh my god, there's a lot to say.
Speaker 1: My mom and dad got divorced at the same time
Speaker 1: as him, and oh my mom has the same color
Speaker 1: hair as Jennifer andson sort of in a way. Yeah
Speaker 1: he can be do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that he's a man. He's older than me, so all
Speaker 1: the pieces are kind of Yeah, he had like a
Speaker 1: dirty blonde wife, you know what I mean, he had
Speaker 1: a dirty blond wife. My mom is gonna be like
Speaker 1: hey and this, this will be this will be a
Speaker 1: question that is too much. Yeah, there was no Angelina. Um,
Speaker 1: there wasn't Angelina. And my stepmom has um black hair
Speaker 1: like Angelina or brown hair. This is crazy, I know.
Speaker 1: So you have to understand me at age like nine
Speaker 1: or whatever, reading this and being like, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is actually magic, Like I'm holding a magic book. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Were you following, like what's going to happen to them?
Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen to me? Like exactly? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this is the future, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like there were maybe a few steps ahead.
Speaker 1: So I'm reading it and I'm like, this is so
Speaker 1: it is a powerful document. Oh my god, it's actually
Speaker 1: like the Book of Spells. Yeah exactly, but data still
Speaker 1: with stepmom. Yes, So guess what it was not the
Speaker 1: future because because it did it actually everybody wins. I
Speaker 1: remember being a few yeah, yeah, I remember a few
Speaker 1: years ago being so shocked that Brad and Angelina were
Speaker 1: going to get divorced. I just for some reason thought
Speaker 1: like maybe it was because after the whole Brad and
Speaker 1: gen thing happened. I then saw mister and miss Smith
Speaker 1: in the theaters and I was like, oh, well, duh,
Speaker 1: like yeah, they met each other's person like they so
Speaker 1: clearly are soulmates. So that years later, when they stayed
Speaker 1: married for so long and had that big family and
Speaker 1: they divorced, I was like, now for it to be
Speaker 1: so ugly right, also so wild, it feels like off
Speaker 1: the like of That's when it started to be like
Speaker 1: what is happening with like wait with Star magazine, not
Speaker 1: like this powerful thing? Maybe what I mean? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had this other part of this where it's like the
Speaker 1: celebrity culture of like evaluating yeah and being like a
Speaker 1: little gay kid who is like, she does not look
Speaker 1: good in that dress. And I used to watch like
Speaker 1: Fashion Police and Project run Away with my mom and
Speaker 1: be like so critical. I was like I cannot believe,
Speaker 1: like Jennifer Lehuet or that to the Oscars. Meanwhile, like
Speaker 1: at a time where I was like wearing green skinny
Speaker 1: jeans to school every single day, green like lime green
Speaker 1: skinny jeans and being like, she does not look good.
Speaker 1: I remember like there was a line that always appeared
Speaker 1: in Fashion Police and whenever something someone wore something fuzzy,
Speaker 1: I would I would have to put the magazine down
Speaker 1: right around and laughing. When anyone would say how many
Speaker 1: muppets had to die to make it? I would just
Speaker 1: I would cry and scream laughing got you? Nothing got
Speaker 1: you funnier to me than a muppets for fashion? I
Speaker 1: would scream, cry, carry on thorough hands. I would be
Speaker 1: up in my bedroom daughter shouting. I think I think
Speaker 1: I'd run down to the kitchens and like wherever. I
Speaker 1: would be like, mom, mom, you have to read this.
Speaker 1: How many muppets I die to this? And it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not as gay as you, right, She's like I
Speaker 1: can't keep up with that, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: engage in that. There's no possible way this is as
Speaker 1: funny as you do story. I'll never forget this. Start man,
Speaker 1: maazine is involved. I think we were in Orlando. Important,
Speaker 1: see you soon, see you soon. We were staying off
Speaker 1: the property like Motel six. Um, we had to go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store to buy like, you know, instant
Speaker 1: noodles or something for dinner. Were family not me? No, no,
Speaker 1: no yet, sorry, yes, I gave you place. Not the time.
Speaker 1: It was like like two thousand and three or something. Okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: Um we're in. We're in the check out line at
Speaker 1: the grocery store buying a bunch of like instant noodles
Speaker 1: for like those that was gonna be like our meal basically.
Speaker 1: And then um, there's a Star magazine at the checkout line.
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson and Nicholache are on it, and my mom goes,
Speaker 1: my mom looks at this magazine cover and like has
Speaker 1: a look of terror on her face. And I know
Speaker 1: Mom wants the wrong and she goes that woman, I
Speaker 1: can tell that it's not a good woman. He goes,
Speaker 1: I tell that it's not a good Simpson being like
Speaker 1: like like like looking seductively at the camera like and
Speaker 1: I think she like a lot of lip cloths on,
Speaker 1: so like it looked a little crazy. My mom was like, woman,
Speaker 1: that is not that that one that culture, and I've
Speaker 1: never been able like my mom had this visceral like
Speaker 1: spiritual religious eversion. She's giving channels. It was like my
Speaker 1: sister never like Mom, are you mom? Are you? Like?
Speaker 1: What must you have seen? Right? I've never seen her
Speaker 1: like that. That woman, that woman can tell that a
Speaker 1: good woman. It was like a dark mark and what
Speaker 1: it was like a very Harry Potter, very Harry Potter,
Speaker 1: the dark Mark, the dark Mark, Baltimore is back. That
Speaker 1: was what the dark mark was, right, Well, this is
Speaker 1: in a world where we're talking about that when the
Speaker 1: when the stars the dark Lord and they got to
Speaker 1: each other and they go is it burning? And the
Speaker 1: O they were like yes. It was like a sort
Speaker 1: of Homerotic moment where like the deaths were all like
Speaker 1: is yours burned? Definitely? Yeah, yours is so beyond beyond
Speaker 1: just the brad and gen of at all. What were
Speaker 1: other tabloid stories that you can remember latching onto or
Speaker 1: was it kind of that that's the one that's imprinted,
Speaker 1: because you know what else? I remember being actually not
Speaker 1: to be like self flattering, but I remember being pretty
Speaker 1: early on like leave Brittany alone, Yeah, like that narrative
Speaker 1: and being like you know what, you back the fuck off? Yeah,
Speaker 1: being like this, like it seems like this is hard
Speaker 1: for and just really actually being like And also it
Speaker 1: was a moment where I had to step away, like
Speaker 1: at the Glee that which they were like her performance
Speaker 1: of Give Me More, which a disaster. It's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, like I thought, No, it wasn't relaxed about this,
Speaker 1: like I don't want this, and it really reveals such
Speaker 1: a pure heart to me. Thank you. And again it's
Speaker 1: like they always like that. Yeah, but I found something
Speaker 1: in me that was good. Yeah, this is my thing
Speaker 1: a much Charlie. He has a genuine love and understanding
Speaker 1: of women. Sorry, no, thank you. People were going so
Speaker 1: hard on her, yeah, like oh she drove her baby
Speaker 1: on her lap. It's like she really wanted to do that. No,
Speaker 1: it's like people are literally it was like mean spirited
Speaker 1: and it was not right and it was good. I
Speaker 1: was like, I found something in myself and that was
Speaker 1: an important moment. And that was an important moment. How
Speaker 1: do we how do we approach Brittany now? And we don't,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I think that's right. I think I
Speaker 1: think that what we what we have to understand is
Speaker 1: that we can be her fan. And she's got so
Speaker 1: much music out there and so much content out there
Speaker 1: that is to be enjoyed. And to ask her to
Speaker 1: who sort of approach like what she used to be
Speaker 1: would be asked her asking her to re engage. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. And so I think like in terms of now,
Speaker 1: it's just like letter post let her post on Instagram
Speaker 1: like give a double tap or unfollow, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like she doesn't care, she can't see it.
Speaker 1: If you can't do it with your heart, then it's
Speaker 1: like back away. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yes,
Speaker 1: you are right about him? No is that? What is that?
Speaker 1: What drew you to Charlie? What draw you to each other?
Speaker 1: What draw you to each other? You asked, how did
Speaker 1: you start? Tell us now? Actually like at an open
Speaker 1: and then we like drift in a grocery store for
Speaker 1: like an hour after what grocery store? Like, yeah, Charlie
Speaker 1: makes you know, like it's like by the Rosemont, you
Speaker 1: know the one on the Oh, yeah, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: just genuinely ask but it was a Rosemont. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was not a gay mic. It was just like
Speaker 1: a bunch of little gay there were gay guys there
Speaker 1: and gay girls and whatever. I could never I could.
Speaker 1: This is something like looking back, I don't think I
Speaker 1: could have done just like a straight mic, straight mics,
Speaker 1: and it really did like traumatiz it actually does like
Speaker 1: make you harder, like yeah, exactly because you are like
Speaker 1: I can't. It's actually such a crazy experience. It'd be
Speaker 1: like last at like the horrible open mic, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, And sometimes it makes you stronger,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? But you lose a tenderness,
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you and you're saying you
Speaker 1: have lost you calloused a little bit because of that. No.
Speaker 1: I did a long period where like there was like
Speaker 1: a year where I was doing Mikes before I met
Speaker 1: Charlie changed where I didn't have like friends doing comedy.
Speaker 1: I had improv friends, but like I didn't have any
Speaker 1: I would just go to Mikes alone. I like Creak
Speaker 1: in the Cave or whatever. I kind of like the
Speaker 1: anonymity of it it and the kind of you know,
Speaker 1: when I would there was no one there to see it,
Speaker 1: like yeah, whatever, But but then when you do have
Speaker 1: someone there and it's like it's horrible, then it becomes
Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, you're in the back, You're like screaming.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's kind of amazing. Well, I think we
Speaker 1: were very lucky because it was like we were very
Speaker 1: like held by each other and also like we started well,
Speaker 1: but you and I both had like we would like
Speaker 1: go our separate ways sometimes and like perform individually and
Speaker 1: we would both have like horrific experience. Oh god, yeah bad,
Speaker 1: and then like but I also remember like because we
Speaker 1: came up in like sketch and improv, it was like
Speaker 1: this like gayer thing already because everyone was acting because
Speaker 1: everyone knew it was like stand ups also have to
Speaker 1: understand it's what you're doing in the theater. It's theater,
Speaker 1: and it's not totally you have to like you're on
Speaker 1: a stage. You're not too literally you're literally not cool
Speaker 1: for doing it, and you have to you have to
Speaker 1: literally act like someone who is saying something. For one
Speaker 1: of the first times I said it, which is like
Speaker 1: complete theater, Like it's really to pretend. Yeah, it's so gay.
Speaker 1: It's so gay to pretend. That's actually really Coach number
Speaker 1: forty two, it's so gay to pretend. But I do
Speaker 1: remember like getting into comedy. I remember getting into you
Speaker 1: can say it. You could always say Okay, that actually
Speaker 1: makes another one comes out, that makes the rule a
Speaker 1: super rule. But I remember getting into comedy pretty much
Speaker 1: because I wanted to be an actress, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, the acceptable way for me, as a still
Speaker 1: closeted person at nineteen to like get into the one
Speaker 1: question me is to say, well, I'm doing sketch comedy,
Speaker 1: and with the hopes of one they being I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, night Live. You know. Being from Long Island,
Speaker 1: it's like a language that everyone can speak. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: so that's why I did no theater in high school
Speaker 1: because it really day to me. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: start doing anything until I was in whoa did you
Speaker 1: do theater in high school? It's really I really sports kid? No, really,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I had a coach, Dad, Sure, that'll
Speaker 1: do it. I had a coach dad, I was and
Speaker 1: I was like, took it very very seriously, in almost
Speaker 1: like a gay way. Right, Yeah, you guys, seriously, the
Speaker 1: game is next week and if we're not gonna show
Speaker 1: up on time to practice, yeah, I recently ran into
Speaker 1: someone this is crazy. So I was captain of the
Speaker 1: track team when I was like young. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like a sophomore in high school. Sophomore it's
Speaker 1: usually juniors, yes, And like basically, I like I had
Speaker 1: earned the respect of so basically, like I remember, I'm
Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school. I'm captain of the track team.
Speaker 1: And my coach comes to me and says, hey, one
Speaker 1: of the other captains is not pulling their weight, and
Speaker 1: I need you to tell him he can't be captain anymore.
Speaker 1: He was a junior, he was the coach was not good.
Speaker 1: So he was a junior, this kid, and he was
Speaker 1: like he was he did like events, he was like
Speaker 1: a high jumper. And also I intrinsically knew in my
Speaker 1: spirit that this was one of the only other gay
Speaker 1: kids at my high school. No, no, the other captain.
Speaker 1: So I had to do a gay kid. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I had to as a sophomore. Oh, I
Speaker 1: had to walk over to him before practice and I
Speaker 1: had to be like, hey, Frank, I was and I
Speaker 1: had to be like, listen, coach has come to me
Speaker 1: and let me know that, like you're not really like
Speaker 1: get you're not giving captain And and I remember he
Speaker 1: was looking at me like he and in his eyes.
Speaker 1: He could see me, and he was like, why are
Speaker 1: you doing this? Don't do this, don't don't do this.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: if you're if you don't want to be captain, like,
Speaker 1: don't be captain like and I was just like I
Speaker 1: started to start my heart started to break because he
Speaker 1: started to like cry a little bit, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, don't cry, don't cry, and all I all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do now. And what's funny is I'm
Speaker 1: in La like about a month ago, and I look
Speaker 1: over and I was just like, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: he comes over. He comes No, he's so successful and
Speaker 1: so good and he comes over, he goes Matt Rogers
Speaker 1: and I was like Frank and I just like hugged
Speaker 1: him and all. And it didn't come up. And he's
Speaker 1: never bounced back from now you have to start, you
Speaker 1: like he's doing. But I'll never ever forget like my
Speaker 1: straight coach who couldn't even take on the responsibility. It
Speaker 1: really horrible and my dad always had a bad feeling
Speaker 1: about him, and um so so I just remember like
Speaker 1: it was this heartbreaking thing of me needing to try
Speaker 1: so desperately to run status on this kid because I
Speaker 1: needed to prove to myself and other people that I
Speaker 1: was like good enough, tough enough, straight enough to like
Speaker 1: do this, and in the process, like, I feel like
Speaker 1: I hurt one of my sisters and I now and
Speaker 1: now now sisterhood is of course number one for me,
Speaker 1: right and I but I'll never forget at that. It
Speaker 1: was like a symptom of being like a sports kid,
Speaker 1: as you had to be a little bit like tough, stupid.
Speaker 1: Why are you crying? Right? And I am such an
Speaker 1: I'm so mommy and not like that, but I want
Speaker 1: to be crying in theater so bad. All I wanted
Speaker 1: to do was crying in theater. All I wanted to
Speaker 1: do was try out for like the swing choir and
Speaker 1: like do all those things. But I didn't do any
Speaker 1: of it. It's like, yeah, a lot of my girlfriends
Speaker 1: were in swing choir and like you know, did the
Speaker 1: plays and stuff, and they were like, Matt, just do it,
Speaker 1: do it, and I was just like I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: And they were like I could tell they were like
Speaker 1: rolling their eyes and they were like, our gay friend
Speaker 1: can't be gay, right, And it's so tragic, legit. When
Speaker 1: you described his eyes. It's very powerful. I remember looking
Speaker 1: in his eyes and no one looked each other in
Speaker 1: the eyes then, right or today right, And I was
Speaker 1: just like, I was just like, I've looked at it all.
Speaker 1: I've actually looked at all of you in your eyes
Speaker 1: this whole time totally. And now I can't, but I
Speaker 1: just remember like it was. It was so so many
Speaker 1: things were not being said in that moment that were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so harsh. Right, It's like, oh, you're both communicant. You
Speaker 1: can't you can't make the subtexts. Yeah, I mean like
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say was like, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: think either of us are having fun doing this. Do
Speaker 1: you want to go like blow each other yefirmed game
Speaker 1: fool around? And then and then you know what really sucked,
Speaker 1: right was afterwards I said to the coach. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did it. It's done. He's not good, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be captain anymore, but he still wants to
Speaker 1: be on the team. It's done. And then and then
Speaker 1: he was like good, He's like yeah, and then he
Speaker 1: said he turned to my assistant coach and I remember
Speaker 1: him being like, the thing is like, I feel like
Speaker 1: I can't say it to him because like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's upset and he's so obviously
Speaker 1: like you said that the coach in front of me,
Speaker 1: and I remember just sitting there and my my heart
Speaker 1: was just in my shoes. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was just like this is horrible and I'm complicit.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. And like at the time, I
Speaker 1: was so desperate to like code switch and fit in that,
Speaker 1: like it was like like party to this, like horrible,
Speaker 1: not just like this thing that guaranteed he went home
Speaker 1: and was so upset about and maybe remained upset about,
Speaker 1: but then for there to be stuff set about him,
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, Yeah, the coach
Speaker 1: was your Star magazine and Frank was Brittany. You were alone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: leave Frank alone. You don't know. God, it's seriously in
Speaker 1: It's also like it's so psychotic because it's like that
Speaker 1: was an adult right, literally, very much, very much so.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, it's like looking back now
Speaker 1: when you think back to teachers and we have conversations
Speaker 1: about this, because a lot of times this comes up,
Speaker 1: like because we talk about the culture that made us
Speaker 1: say blah blah blah, and it's like you return to
Speaker 1: that period and adults in your life at that time,
Speaker 1: it meant nothing that they were adults. Their behavior, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like teachers, I'm sure your schools as well, like really
Speaker 1: did have clear favorites and they're like, what's the gossip.
Speaker 1: Oh my, she like hooked up with him, And it's like,
Speaker 1: why you're talking about a sixteen year old? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: back off, get away, get away. It's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's weird. I'm just repeating, but because I agree, it's
Speaker 1: like it's even weird. It's no exactly, get a job,
Speaker 1: get away from her, Yeah, exactly. People people be posting that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. Like Bowen always talks about this one theater
Speaker 1: teacher he had that like ruin your life ruined. But
Speaker 1: oh oh, it's just it's like it's it's the person
Speaker 1: who like fucked you up, like made you feel like
Speaker 1: you were going to have to be a certain way
Speaker 1: or couldn't do a certain thing. It actually also takes
Speaker 1: like a really long time to get past that, especially
Speaker 1: something like that, Like you know, I'm glad Frank is
Speaker 1: doing okay, he's doing so great, right, but I bet
Speaker 1: you it actually was like a long time. Yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so you say whatever, but I'm sure it does take
Speaker 1: a really long time. Yeah, I was. Were we talking
Speaker 1: about this? I like didn't get into the improv groups
Speaker 1: and that I yeah, oh yeah, we were talking crayons laws, Yeah,
Speaker 1: poker literally exact high poker. Hey, you actually are nailing it, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because I guess what, I fucking knew all of
Speaker 1: the groups we used to go to like not compete,
Speaker 1: we would sometimes like do festivals with them, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe you weren't in it talk about this and
Speaker 1: I did Acapella instead, which I didn't, like, no offense
Speaker 1: to the Acapella community. It's okay, But then I did
Speaker 1: stand up at college and like I was like, well
Speaker 1: that's my thing. But it took me so long to
Speaker 1: get over the like church in my shoulder of like wow,
Speaker 1: like and truly like stills and not to animates me
Speaker 1: of like like how far I've come? Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, relax about that, you know, but don't relax. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are very deep, right, Well, you know one of my
Speaker 1: earliest wounds was when I went to go audition for
Speaker 1: the Danger Bucks improv group and Yu and Bow and Yang,
Speaker 1: and in our very first meeting, came over to me
Speaker 1: and said, hey, Matt, it's so great that I heard it.
Speaker 1: You're really funny, and so I guess what happens in there?
Speaker 1: And I got caught first rounds. Yes, I see what
Speaker 1: you got. You were frank in that moment, and you
Speaker 1: were I was the coach. And then and then I
Speaker 1: stormed into that sketch audition the next day I got it,
Speaker 1: and then saw that one at the first party, and
Speaker 1: I said, you will never keep me down. Don't try,
Speaker 1: don't even try. And yet you did, and yet I
Speaker 1: did and I but then you have to learn from you.
Speaker 1: Then you become part of the acapella group and we're
Speaker 1: doing them a favorite with your gorgeous tone. Well I
Speaker 1: just didn't Yeah. Well, I'm like talk about it because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be like yeah. But
Speaker 1: my thing with yeah, my thing with it was I
Speaker 1: was always like, why don't we add an instrument? This
Speaker 1: might sound a little bit better, Like why are we
Speaker 1: trying to do this song? Like I know it's like
Speaker 1: we're trying to like approximate a guitar sound, right right,
Speaker 1: this might work a little bit better, Like acapella is
Speaker 1: an amazing way to prepare for a world in which
Speaker 1: if something happened, odd forbid instruments anymore. But thank god
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened, right exactly, So use them all you
Speaker 1: got them, and keep practicing. But we don't need to
Speaker 1: listen to It's likely do it in the bunker in
Speaker 1: the morning in right. Have you guys explored on the
Speaker 1: po at the show? Are the pod this like this
Speaker 1: idea a long time ago? Yeah, I think we talked
Speaker 1: about acapella. My thing with it now is I was
Speaker 1: remembering that I was in choir in high school and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that was actually amazing because that's
Speaker 1: music that's designed for just voices and it was so
Speaker 1: And that's also very like ego less art because you're like, really,
Speaker 1: I'm just one, and if you stand out, your choir
Speaker 1: teacher is like that someone in the tenors, it has
Speaker 1: a little bit of a nasal tone and you're like, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's for the many. Yeah, it's very cool because you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm here to help. Yeah. The idea of blending, blending,
Speaker 1: it's so powerful, and that's not like that so much
Speaker 1: in our work now, No, especially as such a soloist.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had to learn powerful
Speaker 1: distinct residence. Are you talking about Arlie? Are you both
Speaker 1: of you? Both? It's I'm talking about both of us
Speaker 1: all the time. Scalist say we, I mean I say
Speaker 1: When I say we, I'm talking about men. When I
Speaker 1: say I, I mean, I mean you get it right,
Speaker 1: Charlie's in that. You were talking about yourself, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: right right, I'm in there no problem. When I say that,
Speaker 1: I mean me and now pronoun joke A pronoun joke.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, hey, And they said we couldn't find
Speaker 1: a way, right, we did? Not hateful pronoun joke? How
Speaker 1: about that? Here's what I'm saying about it. That's what's
Speaker 1: up with you? Guys's with you? Guys? Wait? What's up
Speaker 1: with my guys? Um? Wait? Can I see me about vocalists?
Speaker 1: It's also about Wicked. Oh yes, I just saw Wicked,
Speaker 1: Oh my God on Broadway for my birthday for Broadway?
Speaker 1: What did you think for Broadway on my birthday? Um?
Speaker 1: It was one of the best experiences of my green
Speaker 1: I'm wearing green obviously, but it was so fun to
Speaker 1: see the ensemble members get their one little moment to
Speaker 1: sound cuckoo crazy, like they're blending, they're so perfect, it's
Speaker 1: all whatever, and then they're like, oh, here's and it's like, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: you got a particular voice on you. We didn't know
Speaker 1: that you could sound so you that you could send it,
Speaker 1: you could send it send. I ask you a question,
Speaker 1: because this actually is the most This is how I
Speaker 1: think you can tell if a production of Wicket is
Speaker 1: worth its salt. What did Madame Morrible give when she
Speaker 1: said wicked? What was it giving powerful? Was it giving
Speaker 1: vocal quality? Was a giving going forward or break? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did want to say that I found Madame Morrible
Speaker 1: as wonderful as she was an actor, to be a
Speaker 1: wittle city like, I think that's a really dark character,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just wasting the wait to
Speaker 1: quote Hamilton, quote, you know, to quote Hamilton? Have you
Speaker 1: have you do? You know who's playing Morrible in the movie, Michelle? Yeoh,
Speaker 1: she's not giving, she's not being whittle silly. It's giving imperious. Wait,
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that. Natalie's like my one note exactly,
Speaker 1: And don't worry because in the film that will last
Speaker 1: for all of time on celluloid. It's being performed a
Speaker 1: different way. Good, can I can? I can? I can?
Speaker 1: I give a spoiler? Actually, and like I think there
Speaker 1: will be some technics. No, no, no, no, because you
Speaker 1: just did. I was in the room. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can say this whatever it is, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: do a line. Okay, okay, we can cut it out.
Speaker 1: But this is how Michelle Yo said it in one take.
Speaker 1: That's do you think that's spoiler? Do you think we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to bleep it out? But but but I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I don't think we should.
Speaker 1: I don't think we should think. I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I think that's okay for I think that's a perfectly
Speaker 1: sized thing from bleeping it is one of the funniest
Speaker 1: ideas I have. I'm gonna say it again, bleep it again.
Speaker 1: I don't care she goes cheers like this is so funny.
Speaker 1: Don't bleep this. But one just said fag faget and
Speaker 1: and people are gonna cheer in the seats. I would
Speaker 1: be a fin so much. Michelle said, do you see
Speaker 1: that gazelle? Brian just went for it. Yeah, wait, we
Speaker 1: were talking about this yesterday, but that's all culture number
Speaker 1: ninety eight here you see it just went for it.
Speaker 1: Now he's talking about Gazelle Bryan on Reasonably Shady. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play it god, or have you guys watched Potomac
Speaker 1: it is? I don't think Charlie to learn about it
Speaker 1: through now, Yes, yes, I hear about it, like secondhand
Speaker 1: you went celest This thame was celest like, we won't
Speaker 1: watch Potoma but it was Celestia should watch it. But
Speaker 1: it is such a gift in my life to hear
Speaker 1: Natalie talk about Real House fives. Oh, because now it'll
Speaker 1: be like I'm like, I'm I'm sitting down, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: let's go, and they'll be like, okay, okay, here it is,
Speaker 1: and we'll just do a whole episode. Bryant saying the
Speaker 1: fsler on her podcast Reasonably trad Here we go talking
Speaker 1: about talking about I'mjesse Smllett. So what he did was
Speaker 1: the case you guys don't remember? Was he stage stage?
Speaker 1: I hate crying. So they were supposed to put a
Speaker 1: noose around his neck. They're supposed to call him baggett
Speaker 1: or gay gay empire fae. I like the people. This
Speaker 1: is not because she's deciding if she should say it
Speaker 1: or not. It's just remembering it. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think I think the lotus is. I think so
Speaker 1: many things are happening, she's just remembering it. She's bailing
Speaker 1: on it yea through and then she is playing dumb
Speaker 1: at the end. Yes, it's also it's it's what Gizelle
Speaker 1: doesn't every sing. You can also hear Robin Dixon a
Speaker 1: little bit and then back being like, oh replies on
Speaker 1: that tweet, and it replies on that tweet. It is
Speaker 1: they do post up. Kelly Osborne on the view that
Speaker 1: moment after mister Trump, No, no, in the sense that
Speaker 1: Kelly I went for it. Absolutely, you guys try to
Speaker 1: go for it. Do you like no, I'm I'm but
Speaker 1: I had for a really long time. Well, I like
Speaker 1: that the gizl has like a real levity to her,
Speaker 1: Like she'll just like be like laughing at everything, and
Speaker 1: I like that. But I do think it's it's a mass,
Speaker 1: it's a ask, yeah, and it's a little like her
Speaker 1: like other people's business like is funny to her. And
Speaker 1: at first it was like ha ha, and then it
Speaker 1: was like, wait, that's like someone's life. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: officially um what is it? What do you call it? Um?
Speaker 1: When something has gone too far? Sharks? Is that what
Speaker 1: you mean? It's officially like gone gone too far? The
Speaker 1: shark um bridge the gap. No, come on, there is
Speaker 1: a thing. You're getting a lot of good as all
Speaker 1: good could use them gone to what? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is? What is it? God? It's not as um.
Speaker 1: This is officially God must it's cuckoo. Anyway. We don't like,
Speaker 1: we don't like Giselle. We're actually on recordiz saying I
Speaker 1: know that word. We hate Giselle. I not gonna rect
Speaker 1: because that was the episode, but I'm here to say,
Speaker 1: at least for me, Jazelle Bryant is a person I
Speaker 1: hate and I don't use that and Robin together, I
Speaker 1: think is like a full bull. It's not good. It's
Speaker 1: not good, and it's actually well, we're very team Candics
Speaker 1: all the time, Like we actually celebrate Candidas. Wait, we've
Speaker 1: had on the podcast, We've had doctor. He's been a Candids.
Speaker 1: Candice did win the Record of the Year award at
Speaker 1: the last Culture Ratist Awards. So yeah, yeah, drive back
Speaker 1: back to the way. Drive back is on repeat, repeat, repeat,
Speaker 1: across a million screams on Spotify. Yes, so, I was
Speaker 1: just talking to my friend name about like we haven't
Speaker 1: had it's a very rare thing to have a housewife
Speaker 1: like you have Candy who like obviously has like musical background,
Speaker 1: but a housewife who starts as a housewife and enters
Speaker 1: the musical space. Yeah, and it's like not a joke,
Speaker 1: like like wait a minute, and like she's so it's
Speaker 1: just like it's a it's a rare thing. It's very
Speaker 1: it's really rare, and we are supporting all the way.
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe at maybe at last Cold Piece
Speaker 1: of Culture Awards w mort com. All right, it's time,
Speaker 1: is it time? So it's time now for I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. This is our really sixty second segment
Speaker 1: that um we do weekly, Yes, on our weekly podcast
Speaker 1: Never Never not Happens up? Where are we? Dare you? Um?
Speaker 1: We rail against something and Cold we really go forward
Speaker 1: against something in culture that should not be Um. So
Speaker 1: I do have something, okay, and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little controversial. I think, oh me too. This is Matt Rogers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts yet I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Mowanna again. I definitely don't think
Speaker 1: we need ma Wanna again. I think that we had
Speaker 1: Moana once and it was wonderful. I am on record
Speaker 1: for being like, is actual Maana a little bit slow?
Speaker 1: But act one half far ago? I love it. I
Speaker 1: love the end. Lovewell did that gorgeous? Linmonwell did that
Speaker 1: just yet? But I will say that ma Wanna live action.
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't want to see it in
Speaker 1: in ten fifteen years. I don't know that we need
Speaker 1: it right now. It's really sad that also what's happening
Speaker 1: with Harry Potter. Another saying is going to be a
Speaker 1: limited series of Harry Potter um on HBO. It's like, guys,
Speaker 1: these things just literally just happened, and please, let's just
Speaker 1: get a new idea. I also understand that it's a
Speaker 1: little bit I don't think so, honey, me even saying
Speaker 1: this because it's like we kind of get what we
Speaker 1: deserve as consumers, Like if we keep telling them all
Speaker 1: you want is the same thing, Like what do we expect?
Speaker 1: Like this is coming from someone who did see the
Speaker 1: Way of Water twice and didn't like it necessarily either,
Speaker 1: So I don't think so honey me and saying this,
Speaker 1: but I don't think so honey. Mawana again and that's
Speaker 1: one minute, just because again again again, like I wanna
Speaker 1: fine wanna again. And in terms of mo wanna comma again,
Speaker 1: like I get that it's gonna be live action, and
Speaker 1: I certainly think that'll that'll be something to watch, and
Speaker 1: you know, we have Dwayne the Rock that's gonna be
Speaker 1: in it. But the thing is like I just feel like,
Speaker 1: is it? Is it? Even though it would be fun,
Speaker 1: And I also know that so many millions billions of
Speaker 1: people love this movie and it means something to them,
Speaker 1: so like it's for them, it's four kids. I don't
Speaker 1: I shouldn't complain. I don't care. But it's also just
Speaker 1: like in terms of like just the business in general,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so now we're not even pretending that
Speaker 1: we don't care, like now we it's not even like
Speaker 1: we want the industry to be something good again. It's
Speaker 1: just like we are only interested in money. And I
Speaker 1: guess that's my thing with Disney in general, is it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are just genuinely only about the bottom line
Speaker 1: in a way that's like completely out indisputable, like you
Speaker 1: can't even talk about it anymore. Wait. Someone was telling
Speaker 1: me this and I didn't verify because I thought it
Speaker 1: was funny or if it was true. Um, but someone
Speaker 1: was like the live action Lion King, because I was like,
Speaker 1: why do you think keep making these live action like
Speaker 1: Disney movies? It look so bad and they keep doing them.
Speaker 1: And a friend was like, the live action Lion King
Speaker 1: and all those live action movies are like the top five,
Speaker 1: like highest grossing movies of all time. Yeah, they're up there.
Speaker 1: I actually was just because I literally just went on
Speaker 1: the site box officemojo dot com of course, because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see like sort of what was up right,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to see like what the highest
Speaker 1: grossing movies of all time were. And it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: They're literally all like either the same thing or like
Speaker 1: some version of something else, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's like Lion King two sixteen, but that one
Speaker 1: really was like top ten, wow, which is crazy because
Speaker 1: it's funny. Yeah, and that's like charl when I was
Speaker 1: high on marijuana down center and I laughed for an
Speaker 1: hour and now yeah, yeah, well I right, yeah's true.
Speaker 1: I told you that, and you were like, that is
Speaker 1: the funniest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: about one. But the highest grossing movies of all time
Speaker 1: are literally like The Star Wars New One, Avatar, Avatar too,
Speaker 1: the Star Wars New One, right at Lion King now
Speaker 1: Lion King, then Dress World, Rassic World, Dress Park. It
Speaker 1: is the last original story highest gross that, like, like
Speaker 1: broke Records, is that Titanic. Titanic is the only one
Speaker 1: in the top ten that's not like based on a franchise.
Speaker 1: And even that, it's like Titanic is now like ip right,
Speaker 1: like they could literally do Titanic again, and I feel like,
Speaker 1: of course they did. Wait, that would be funny if
Speaker 1: they're from where it left off again what happened? We
Speaker 1: know what happened? Be the movie was in the future too, right,
Speaker 1: so Titanic even knew if it happened, Like it's based
Speaker 1: on newspaper articles, right, that's the real you know what? Really,
Speaker 1: probably they should do and I might as well just pitch.
Speaker 1: It's like a limited series on HBEL called like Rose,
Speaker 1: which is just about like in six episodes. There's just
Speaker 1: different moments in her life like between her after Titanic
Speaker 1: and before she was old as hell, Like, get six
Speaker 1: different actresses to play her, my God and Kate do
Speaker 1: one of them? Kate like a way shoddy so that
Speaker 1: no one can take Also, wait, you need to do
Speaker 1: before Titanic and after tan or just after Titanic. I
Speaker 1: think it's after Titanic and before she's old as hell
Speaker 1: and being like something at the at the pottery wheel.
Speaker 1: I think I thought I was thought I was iconic
Speaker 1: that she was at the pottery wheel. And then she's
Speaker 1: like because remember all those remember wattery when she's like
Speaker 1: local and when she's old potters the ancient times of course,
Speaker 1: but on a wheel. So when did we get the times?
Speaker 1: But don't you think all those pictures like when when
Speaker 1: at the end wood dud dude, dude, which by the way, iconic,
Speaker 1: um that all those pitches of her like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just the horse that I remember. It could be a
Speaker 1: Last of Us episode three type episode about her finally
Speaker 1: getting on the horse and like having a love affair
Speaker 1: with the guy who teaches her how to ride side saddle.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the episode you see
Speaker 1: her look back at like the she's she's just postcoital, right,
Speaker 1: she gets out of bed, she looks over her shoulder
Speaker 1: at the little house where she's just sucked the guy,
Speaker 1: and she rides side saddle away And that's the end
Speaker 1: of episode three of my limited series Rose. Wait, can
Speaker 1: I make another pitch for that? Yeah? You want to
Speaker 1: ride on the show? Yeah? Thank you? Okay, that's all. No, Um,
Speaker 1: I want it to be like Last of a Style,
Speaker 1: except it's old her, but she's actually surviving in a
Speaker 1: post character and she survived the whole time. I want
Speaker 1: to see that. I really like that. Yeah, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's actually like or that series two, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Like the first one is what
Speaker 1: you want, and then it's like we actually take it
Speaker 1: in a really different direction. Basically you're just pitching, like
Speaker 1: me getting overthrown as like exactly what you're pitching is like,
Speaker 1: that's cool that you want to do that. And then
Speaker 1: I take your job and do a different shop. Right
Speaker 1: then I thought we were us. Yeah, I know we
Speaker 1: used to be exactly we broke up. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: so are you ready to do You're out and think so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready And remember this, you said this is gonna
Speaker 1: be like incendiary and really rough. I just think it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna you're gonna disagree with me, and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna agree with you. Can I say I'm using
Speaker 1: your pop socket all this is? I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Skip AD
Speaker 1: someone worked really hard on that, and it's actually, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you rather be like be like, have to have it
Speaker 1: be upfront that it's an AD and not not have
Speaker 1: it be products placement? Like if I see skip AD,
Speaker 1: I know it's an AD. But if I don't see
Speaker 1: skip at and I'm watching something and there's like a
Speaker 1: Durist Cell battery like being like shoved in my face,
Speaker 1: then I'm like, is this a commercial for Durist Cell?
Speaker 1: It's actually skip ad. It's actually a blessing in the
Speaker 1: current media Landsky because because it's very very very spared.
Speaker 1: What this is? Everything else these days like like like
Speaker 1: ads are actually good. It's mad. It's bad. It's bad
Speaker 1: that we're being marketed to bloo boo boo boo. But
Speaker 1: it's like if if I see an AD on Instagram
Speaker 1: or TI, I go, oh, okay, this this sucks. This
Speaker 1: interrupts like, you know my experience, but at least I
Speaker 1: know what this is and I can just move on.
Speaker 1: But I think I think we're we're teetering into dangerous
Speaker 1: territory now where everything is an AD. But if you
Speaker 1: see skip bad, then you know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what it is exactly. Okay, that's one minute. I understand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I actually don't think anyone no. But it's
Speaker 1: also like what Mats was saying that nobody gets don't
Speaker 1: just don't just throw I thought that was going down
Speaker 1: on the table like four Actually, you guys don't highest
Speaker 1: grossing movies of all time. It's like Matt was saying about,
Speaker 1: like you teach the media how to treat you, Like
Speaker 1: the more we skip AD, the more they're gonna be like, fine,
Speaker 1: we'll pay for the movie itself. That's so true. So
Speaker 1: it's maybe like musical maybe season three of Rose is
Speaker 1: I think for sure the Great Musical Episode. Definitely there's
Speaker 1: one episode of God, what is your relationship with the
Speaker 1: Great Anatomy musical episode Disappointment? I think you came over
Speaker 1: to my apartment to watch it, to watch it, and
Speaker 1: we were all like, are you gree as anatomy culture. No,
Speaker 1: not even when it was good. No, what do you
Speaker 1: It's okay. I watched like a lot of TikTok, like
Speaker 1: South Park clips where it's like over a subway surfer.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I haven't watched a full episode of
Speaker 1: TV and maybe fifty years totally watches like clips clips.
Speaker 1: I was like American Dad Best of Roger twenty minute compilation.
Speaker 1: Never watched an episode of My Life creature. I'm like
Speaker 1: a YouTube creature. It's horrible. It's a more efficient way
Speaker 1: of watching. Yeah, well, I'm like, I want the best
Speaker 1: of Roger. I went like Roger, like all of his
Speaker 1: female personas all at once. I don't want to wait.
Speaker 1: I want to get them. And we have that technology now,
Speaker 1: I actually I have to come forward. And that's like
Speaker 1: me with like Abbot Elementary. I'll watch like best of
Speaker 1: Ava Yeah, and I'll watch Janelle coming in and slang
Speaker 1: and I'll be like I love yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and and and you do. There's many different ways to consume, right, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: it's like what like TV shows are like clips? Do
Speaker 1: you know what I meant? Well, it's funny because then
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll watch stuff and I'll be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: actually know what happens in this episode. Yeah, that I
Speaker 1: watched now over like forty different compilations. It's probably so surprising,
Speaker 1: right because I'm like, that's where they were, that's where
Speaker 1: they were going. There, I have no idea he revealed
Speaker 1: right exactly. It's literally nonlinear. And then you have this
Speaker 1: concept that you're a fan of a show, but you
Speaker 1: actually like, I don't. I think the number of episodes
Speaker 1: of the Office I've seen in full, it's probably like
Speaker 1: six or seven. But I was so invested. Of course,
Speaker 1: when Jim and Pam kissed, I was like, this was
Speaker 1: a moment I had waited for for years, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, no, you saw a flip of it
Speaker 1: happen on television. We're told that we stand and I
Speaker 1: was like, me too. I actually I think we all
Speaker 1: are gym and pans all want to thank you. They
Speaker 1: find and it's like, first thing, I'm emotional, the first
Speaker 1: thing Rachel and rom like, well they won't they and
Speaker 1: weren't they on a break or what? It's like I've
Speaker 1: never seen it, right, No, I believe Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: Friends is one of those shows where even if you
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, you literally have it like Seinfeld, right,
Speaker 1: even Charlie, I've seen Segfeld. Yeah. But actually, by the way,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I've seen mostly clips, right, and
Speaker 1: that since I've seen it so and then I've seen
Speaker 1: a few episodes with my grandmother back in the day,
Speaker 1: so I have like, you need actually one full episode
Speaker 1: to get the rhythm, and then once you have that, oh,
Speaker 1: you're good to go with the clips exactly, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's probably this part of the episode. Like, now
Speaker 1: that I know the structure, I can just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be cracking up. When Elaine is getting ready to
Speaker 1: say something. She'll be like, well, it's so true, and
Speaker 1: I'll be like that this is gonna be good. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Julia Emmy Seinfeld is the most nonlinear show,
Speaker 1: maybe because you can't cut together episodes from what you
Speaker 1: watched with your grandma to like a YouTube compilation and
Speaker 1: it will make sense. Yeah, it does work. It works.
Speaker 1: I remember amazing seeing in that Hearing and that Scissors song,
Speaker 1: that scene where Elaine and um, mister Seinfeld they're talking
Speaker 1: about if they're gonna have sex, and I had never
Speaker 1: watched it fully and like heard that was like why Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had this whole kind of really horny plotline if
Speaker 1: you choose to look at it that way, where it
Speaker 1: was like they have casual sex a lot, and they
Speaker 1: they just have conversations while they fuck, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so hot, it's pretty queer. I recently watched a
Speaker 1: porn where I recently watched a porno um where a
Speaker 1: guy was just like riding someone's dick and they were
Speaker 1: just talking to each other about their day, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, why is this so incredible? I love that.
Speaker 1: It's like villains villains, do you know what I mean? Oh,
Speaker 1: I am putting something like really private about my like
Speaker 1: psychual psyche um like villains, like they don't even care
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Oh yeah, he'll be shooting a gun
Speaker 1: and be like what's for breakfast? Oh yeah, but not
Speaker 1: to them. Yes, that's really good. I remember it can
Speaker 1: be like sex is that casual, It can be that casual,
Speaker 1: but they're friends, and then that's actually what started the
Speaker 1: gay community, right, you can be friends and have that right,
Speaker 1: really cool And with that, so I guess Natalie did
Speaker 1: the first cult culture, so Charlie should do the first
Speaker 1: t them think, so, yeah, I agree, and that way
Speaker 1: goes around the table too exactly, and so like Clow,
Speaker 1: it only took me directionally. What was happening? We always
Speaker 1: have no clock. It's like and left and right like
Speaker 1: that has never gotten easier, like no, or for you guys,
Speaker 1: or well you don't never got no, I don't, but
Speaker 1: I do it in my head. Takes me a little bit.
Speaker 1: But left and right is literally really hard. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like what's the difference? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what do we have to go on? The only
Speaker 1: reason left and right exists is because, like you, because
Speaker 1: human beings have like two shoulders, right what I mean exactly? Literally, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like losing you guys pretty hard. It's funny that
Speaker 1: the two smarties, I honestly think what's happening is you
Speaker 1: guys are trying to play pinky and you don't get it,
Speaker 1: Like you know, friends like Joey will say something and
Speaker 1: it's like how do you get through the day? Like
Speaker 1: they're trying to make you look so stupid? Like do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But it's like, well, whatever
Speaker 1: do you any way to target you? I feel my
Speaker 1: friend's target me. I feel, I feel, I feel targeted
Speaker 1: by my smart friends all the time, Like I have
Speaker 1: to hang out with Boone and study like all the time,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they'll look at each other and there, we
Speaker 1: don't do that. Now, they don't do that. Do you
Speaker 1: get a little kick out of it? Yeah? Sometimes I
Speaker 1: love being the clown. Yeah. And then sometimes you play
Speaker 1: it up so much and you're like, they think I
Speaker 1: can't like time, my shoes, oh the droet beany thing
Speaker 1: where it's like they actually over wrote it a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is now. This is Charlie's I don't honey, okay, um, Charlie,
Speaker 1: our day here is gurt. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Your time starts now. Okay, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: The thing when movie posters the names of the actors
Speaker 1: are not over the actors, that is, oh my god,
Speaker 1: confusing for me because guess what that's not Jessica Chastain. No,
Speaker 1: and you're seriously confusing everybody in the subway station. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm in a position where I've been like privileged enough
Speaker 1: to know from like my background and experiences who Jessica
Speaker 1: Chastain is right, But not everybody can say that. And
Speaker 1: if you're putting Jessica Chastain the picture underneath the words
Speaker 1: that say Diane Keaton. Someone is going to be like,
Speaker 1: that must be Diane Keaton labels. You're putting it over
Speaker 1: a picture. Look, I get that, Like the whole thing
Speaker 1: of it is like it's probably contract negotiation. So it's
Speaker 1: like Jessica Chastain is like, well, like it made sense
Speaker 1: for her on the poster to be on the right,
Speaker 1: but she's actually like she gets built first, so she's
Speaker 1: on the left. You know what you need to like
Speaker 1: like that doesn't matter to me actually, and left to
Speaker 1: right is not like a real hierarchy, So Jessica, it's
Speaker 1: okay for you to be on the right. This is
Speaker 1: confusing that everybody words should go with their pictures. That's
Speaker 1: one minute. That is so this is what they did
Speaker 1: with Charlie's angels in the photo it's it's it's Drew,
Speaker 1: Cameron Lucy and then on the top it's Cameron, Drew Lucy,
Speaker 1: switch Cameron and Drew. It's not that it's like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter like the it's like whatever, just like put
Speaker 1: them there to those actresses, right matters? So right, and
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the crazy. But the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: who's first in the names is different? Is the different
Speaker 1: hierarchy than allegedly then who is middle of a tree?
Speaker 1: There's visual who is in the middle. Visually it's it's
Speaker 1: it's satisfying for the eye, I think because she's I
Speaker 1: don't know, like, but there's nobody getting style like someone
Speaker 1: in the center and someone who's first and left most
Speaker 1: I would really left to right, Like that doesn't read
Speaker 1: as a hierarchy to me. I'm not like, oh, it's first,
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz. I'm like, whatever, you're all on top? Is
Speaker 1: that if you're top left on the on the poster,
Speaker 1: that means you're top building. You're really Yeah, you're the
Speaker 1: queen of the movie. Yeah kind of. This literally was
Speaker 1: big news actually when when Charlie Dane Wass even came out,
Speaker 1: because it was like, Cameron Diaz was paid like twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars for that movie and was top build and
Speaker 1: then twenty million. Yes this is back in the day
Speaker 1: when she was commanding twenty mili and so Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: was a producer on the movie, so made money that way,
Speaker 1: but only was paid like twelve point five because of
Speaker 1: her commanding power. And then Lucy was paid way less. Wow,
Speaker 1: even though even though they were all doing an equal Yeah,
Speaker 1: like maybe who's the protagonist a little bit, but like
Speaker 1: not really, it's like a three hander. It's Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 1: But at that time, like Lucy Lou was not a
Speaker 1: quote unquote movie star in the way that like Cameron
Speaker 1: was and then secondarily Drew was. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: thing though, like the lawyers are going back and forth
Speaker 1: right to like make sure their client gets like and
Speaker 1: by the way, it's like your storytellers, like why don't
Speaker 1: you tell an honest story of like I'm on this
Speaker 1: poster and Lucy Lou, Like that's what this is about.
Speaker 1: Like they're abandoning craft. They're abandoning the craft to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like you've lost the plot here. We want to
Speaker 1: know who Drew Barrymore is first and foremost. That's the
Speaker 1: story of the poster. Yes, yeah, it's really I don't
Speaker 1: like that sometimes too, like if you can tell it's
Speaker 1: like a it's like a situation where they were like
Speaker 1: we don't want to do that, like if and it's
Speaker 1: a true two hander, like you'll get a thing where
Speaker 1: on the on the one title card. They both come
Speaker 1: up at the same time, Like I've noticed that that.
Speaker 1: It's like that with the other two. It's like Drew
Speaker 1: Tarver and Helena York like not one is not over there. No,
Speaker 1: They're like, we're not doing this where it is equal.
Speaker 1: It is equality, and it's like the way like the
Speaker 1: work will stand out, like you can put your name first,
Speaker 1: but it's like if you're not serving like first person,
Speaker 1: you won't be remembered. Yeah, I'm sure there's examples of
Speaker 1: that one. I mean, have you have you seen the
Speaker 1: movie in a Question with Jessica chats Stand and Diane Keaton. No,
Speaker 1: And I don't even know there. I just can't. Just
Speaker 1: don't because you know what I think one by THEE
Speaker 1: there was one that came out recently. I think it
Speaker 1: was Clared Armageddon Time, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: like Anne Hathaway and Jessica chat Stain, Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: believe it was something like that where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: are they sort of insinuating the Anne Hathaway It's just
Speaker 1: like a chat Stain because that's my gay ass and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that ain't her. Yeah, but I remember
Speaker 1: watching and I was like, yeah, one sleigh is harder
Speaker 1: than the other. First of all, what a hard conversation
Speaker 1: I have. So I do forbid, God forbid, literally, god forbid.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't slayed different, not harder, just different. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were wearing different wigs, which set them up for different sleighs, right, exactly,
Speaker 1: the wigs. That's the slave. You have to like be
Speaker 1: honest about that when that happened. Yeah, and it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's a hard conversation. And also it's like when you're
Speaker 1: looking when you get the script for Charlie's Angels, and
Speaker 1: it's like you are all turning the page of the
Speaker 1: table read. I mean you're like you're like sort of
Speaker 1: in a slag contest. Yeah, oh, you have to sort
Speaker 1: of like because that movie is actually a really good
Speaker 1: example of the all three of them equally slay. It
Speaker 1: really is remarkable how it's equal slag, totally slay or lane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like they are perfectly cast. Cameron dis as like earhead
Speaker 1: genius dancer, Drew Barrymore as like fucking Stoneer Macgoner, like
Speaker 1: I could give a fuck, but also I kick your
Speaker 1: ass and I'm super smart and I'm like that and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suck Tom Green because that makes me horny
Speaker 1: and the smart bad at cooking and like whips chains leather,
Speaker 1: but also it sucks. Joey Tribbiani likes them and just
Speaker 1: like cold hard numbers, like love it. That's scene where
Speaker 1: the guys have her across and she's like, h no,
Speaker 1: it's so good, Lucy. The best line of the movie.
Speaker 1: Flip your hair? What flip god damn hair? Moment culture.
Speaker 1: Actually it's actually a moment of culture. What that was
Speaker 1: a moment of That was a moment culture. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that so thank you so much for that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so that was really good, no problem.
Speaker 1: You know what I've realized right now, I think I
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey Live was like before. I think
Speaker 1: before our guest time. I think I did you one
Speaker 1: the way I did cars. All right, it's good. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like did you feel on the night one? Great? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like it. Well, I think I like everybody
Speaker 1: what I said, everybody that is like, you guys create
Speaker 1: a space where everybody's slaves. That's very nice. That is
Speaker 1: the dream. I don't I don't know if we always
Speaker 1: achieve Yeah, and we knew that going into the podcast.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, we're nervous, and was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, they create a space where everyone the
Speaker 1: people we talked to you who I've done it. We
Speaker 1: went to our elders and they were like, they really
Speaker 1: make it so that you feel so comfortable and like
Speaker 1: you feel like you're doing well. I mean, we love
Speaker 1: you guys, say, got sure, can I do the thing
Speaker 1: that I've heard people doing this podcast? I'll do it
Speaker 1: really fascinated. And then and then I'm going to create
Speaker 1: a show that Charlie takes over and we'll do better
Speaker 1: than yeah, and then we'll do the Fungus season that
Speaker 1: There have just been certain times when I've been feeling
Speaker 1: low that I have turned to this when I'm like
Speaker 1: when I'm like things are just like messy in my
Speaker 1: head and I'm like I just need something and entertaining
Speaker 1: that hits like it has to be something that keeps
Speaker 1: me entertained because I don't really like the other stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about right now. It's you guys, and
Speaker 1: you really do it in you you know. I literally
Speaker 1: was like I was so excited that you guys were
Speaker 1: coming on because I genuinely like, I mean I'm I'm actually,
Speaker 1: that's like one of the reasons why I want to
Speaker 1: move back is because there's like people here that I
Speaker 1: feel like I have to know. You and Richard Perez
Speaker 1: at a moment the other night, well, I sort of
Speaker 1: went over there and I was like, listen, hey, YouTube,
Speaker 1: I tell us the less. You two have a similar
Speaker 1: energy where Richard. You and Richard are both good at
Speaker 1: like coquettish like yeah, you know, like I really I
Speaker 1: really respond to Richard. Oh my god. Rich first of all,
Speaker 1: talk about a genius. I mean that video of them
Speaker 1: getting fucked perfect every video, everybody out video. What I loved.
Speaker 1: What I loved about it was every the sudden like laugh,
Speaker 1: like crying a little bit, Like I was like, you
Speaker 1: really are like the most personal like glimpse into getting
Speaker 1: fucked like like just like the whole thing. I was
Speaker 1: just like, I feel really really did this thing the
Speaker 1: other day that was like a certain way of walking
Speaker 1: and I saw I was like, so you see everything, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you know what it was. It was like
Speaker 1: celebrity walking from the restaurant into their car and it
Speaker 1: was like hitch perfect. Was it like head down, a
Speaker 1: little bit down for a little bit of that and like, bag,
Speaker 1: wait you the brothers I'm saying is performer exdin I
Speaker 1: see it. Um, we see each other as a break
Speaker 1: I see you. No, No, that was Candy. Candy Burris
Speaker 1: had a two who we miss? Yeah? Is that Avatar too?
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you as one, but I
Speaker 1: see as well as well as see another great tune,
Speaker 1: one of the great. You will always be famous. Natalie.
Speaker 1: Natalie is Nalie Rotan. I don't think so many of
Speaker 1: your time starts now, okay, it's Housewives one. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey. When you're binging
Speaker 1: a Housewives series and you get to the part where
Speaker 1: the women found out about by Felicia, there's no franchise
Speaker 1: that doesn't touch every single franchise you're watching through it's
Speaker 1: twenty ten. You're just watching like an amazing scene where
Speaker 1: it's like you talked about my marriage. I would never
Speaker 1: do that to you, like my marriage is off limits,
Speaker 1: and the other person's like you did, just can't want
Speaker 1: buye Felicia. You're like do a little gasp, and then
Speaker 1: it's like a scurche, Like there's no woman who doesn't
Speaker 1: say it there's no franchise doesn't touch. And it got
Speaker 1: to them and it fits so perfectly with what they
Speaker 1: need to say to each other, which is like you're done,
Speaker 1: you know, and am And as soon as it comes,
Speaker 1: it goes, and it never feels good. And I don't
Speaker 1: know when Bye Felicia hit the culture, but it's obviously
Speaker 1: like a year later it hit them. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: you guys. Wait didn't it just happen on Miami? First
Speaker 1: of all, get out? I want to say, you have
Speaker 1: to watch I watched a few of Miami with Celeste,
Speaker 1: watched an episode, but also didn't. Where are you guys
Speaker 1: getting together to watch Celeste's house? You guys go over
Speaker 1: to Selst house and watch Miami. This is what happened.
Speaker 1: We would do that whenever you're in time, we watch
Speaker 1: the house lives together and the most But bo, where
Speaker 1: did Felicia just happen? I think Felicia Survivor you're thinking
Speaker 1: of surviving? Oh it happened on Survivor just now, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: jet where someone said by Felicia to Jeff Right, someone
Speaker 1: said bye Felicia and to another contestant, and then the
Speaker 1: contestant was was like, well, I guess I'm Felicia. Someone
Speaker 1: was surmising that they were going to get voted out
Speaker 1: and they were like, and Jeff, I think that I'm
Speaker 1: Felicia tonight to like Deconstructor. Yes, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, there's lots of talking on the beach, like
Speaker 1: everyone's scattering and that Survivor right and tonight, I'm afraid
Speaker 1: I might be Policia. Tonight I'm Felicia. And then Jeff
Speaker 1: is like, well, if you're Felicia, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Like TB Council, you're Felicia, Carolyn, what do you do
Speaker 1: if you Felicia? Jeffer? And there's this crazy woman Carolyn
Speaker 1: on the season who literally tolts like this and she's
Speaker 1: gonna win the show. If you're not watching Survivor this season,
Speaker 1: you're not doing dragule. It's actually super rule culture number
Speaker 1: one one. If you're not watching Survivor season, you're not
Speaker 1: Why why didn't you? Because Natalie wasn't doing it? And
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe can you do your avoids again?
Speaker 1: Well I want just sitting there and they're talking about
Speaker 1: and when I'm telling you, she's playing by far the
Speaker 1: best game. Oh my god, part of the game when
Speaker 1: when you watch the show. First of all, there's never
Speaker 1: been a season of Survivor that doesn't start like, oh,
Speaker 1: sixteen Survivors, Like, they didn't do that. This This season
Speaker 1: opened on this woman's confessional and they're like, so, tell
Speaker 1: us your name, and she goes, just tell you my
Speaker 1: name and they're like, yeah, like tell us, tell us
Speaker 1: her name, tell us you want to get to know you.
Speaker 1: She goes, We're okay, and then it was like and
Speaker 1: then this season started. But when I'm telling you this
Speaker 1: is never and I'm telling you, like, Carolyn, get out
Speaker 1: there yet, and I'm like from water Like part of
Speaker 1: me is like, are they fixing it? Because they know
Speaker 1: they have like a star and they're like, Caroline, they might.
Speaker 1: They know how to make that show with this. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's not like it doesn't matter if we're
Speaker 1: in the wild West, which a Survivor. They're producing a
Speaker 1: reality and they know a star when they see one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the casting team Felicia, Felicia Jeff I might
Speaker 1: be in his tone. So are you feeling Felicia? How
Speaker 1: many people do feel like Felicia Jeff And after tonight
Speaker 1: Felicia don't live here, no mom thatch, which is a
Speaker 1: sort of remember that one every Every Housewives does the
Speaker 1: boy by Felicia. I was scared. I think I drowned
Speaker 1: the most today. But it's not a competition, huh nothing,
Speaker 1: I think I don't think so many. I was like
Speaker 1: really hyping it up in it and guess what didn't
Speaker 1: And Lane, I think the four of us did slay
Speaker 1: our slay in our own lane. Fla lay in your
Speaker 1: own lane. You love that. I am feeling tired and
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like bowen Yang is feeling tired. Everyone.
Speaker 1: It must be Tuesday. Shut up. No, I'm not gonna stop,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to come in here on the
Speaker 1: first episode. You ever come in here and say stop stop? Um? Well, wow,
Speaker 1: this has been an absolute and you believe that we
Speaker 1: had to sort of fight to make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but good things are worth fighting for good? Can we say?
Speaker 1: Charlie before we hit record, Charlie went, I might have
Speaker 1: to go take a pea break, and we said, and
Speaker 1: you guys said, no one had ever done that. No
Speaker 1: one happened. By the way, I need to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom so bad. You Yeah, By the way we're
Speaker 1: gonna end, but no problem. We never want this time.
Speaker 1: Do you have a small black don't? Yeah? You do?
Speaker 1: You peel a lot? Yeah, and you do not love it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. So I love the feeling of it,
Speaker 1: and I love the feeling of sneezing too. I hate
Speaker 1: I hate coughing, throwing up. I don't think you should
Speaker 1: be a lot to sneeze around other people because it's
Speaker 1: so sexual. Oh my god, wait, it is the same
Speaker 1: like pleasure, right, Like you're like, am I gonna am?
Speaker 1: I gonna? Am I gonna? I like? So I tutor?
Speaker 1: So I like, and I've been sneezing a lot and
Speaker 1: what like allergies. Yeah, but I relaxed, understand, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: Or like when I sneeze, I too on tutoring. I
Speaker 1: like when I sneeze, I just can't help but teachum.
Speaker 1: But it's like, because I'm on zoom, I'm like, let
Speaker 1: me not sneeze directly into the microphone. I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: mute myself. So thoughtful. Yeah. And then recently what happened
Speaker 1: is I was like, oh, I'm gonna need to sneeze,
Speaker 1: and then I accidentally muted the kids. I was talking,
Speaker 1: so the vibit was. I was like, can you shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up for one second? And then I sneeze
Speaker 1: into the microphone because when you're here, by sneeze, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so beautiful. And then also I can't
Speaker 1: You can't un mute someone else when you're on zoom.
Speaker 1: So I basically like muted someone sneeze, and then I
Speaker 1: had to be like, can you Oh my god, was like,
Speaker 1: I have something important. I know you're talking about the
Speaker 1: problem at hand, and they're like you and the onus
Speaker 1: is on them to un mute them, right right, And
Speaker 1: I have to ask have to be like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: so I actually made a mistake and I muted you
Speaker 1: instead of myself. I took away your voice. I took
Speaker 1: away your voice. Yeah, oh my god. Well I'll tell
Speaker 1: you whose voice we did not take away these two
Speaker 1: And I feel we're gonna grasp pans one more time
Speaker 1: and just say this was so fun and so wonderful
Speaker 1: and it was one of our favorite episodes we've ever done, ever, ever,
Speaker 1: ever and song and if you know the song, you're
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Speaker 1: wait hold on is it? Do do do do do?
Speaker 1: Or do do do do? Do? Wait? Oh? Go lower.
Speaker 1: I am finding the lower harmony lately, and it's been shocked.
Speaker 1: It's actually harder than the upper harm because can I
Speaker 1: say something, I'm a man apparently, and I guess I
Speaker 1: have to sort of be on the lower to be
Speaker 1: comfortable everywhere, to stop put it away a bitch, yes
Speaker 1: to go. I was gonna say this, which is that
Speaker 1: we all want I think as gay guys, you want
Speaker 1: to be a soprano or an alto and you have
Speaker 1: to reckon with It's like sometimes you're a baritone and actually,
Speaker 1: like when you're choosing karaoke songs, you can't always do
Speaker 1: the ones that you want. No, I've always I'm limited,
Speaker 1: but I've always and that's what set me apart from
Speaker 1: other game in a counter an, what you can do
Speaker 1: when you stand, deliver and use your I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: pelvic floor of doom. It's like and like it is
Speaker 1: really wild. And then then moments where we used to
Speaker 1: sing let me be your Star Alive which was a
Speaker 1: large part of our sort of live performance career. I
Speaker 1: was always shocked when you let me do the high
Speaker 1: harmony of it, because you can do it. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you are a natural star. Everyone here is slaying, and
Speaker 1: they're laying bye bye