1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: Guys, were official, We've got a sign on the back 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: of the wall. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's official. It only took like how many years 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: have I been doing this podcast? 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, so would take a lifetime. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 5: I know. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just wanted to be I just wanted 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: to look official. It's like I walk in and I 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: just like stare it. 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, cool, It's like. 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 6: It looks like a talk show set now right. 13 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: That'd be like a dream. I want to have my 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: own talk show one day. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 6: Well, manifested, I just did. Okay, there it is, Mark. 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: How are you doing? 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 5: I'm great? 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 4: How are you? 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: How am I today? 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 7: I'm like, that's what I've been wondering. I've been trying 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 7: to figure that out for the last five minutes since 22 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 7: I've been here. Yeah, Catherine goes, would you say to 23 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 7: me you okay? 24 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: I think I'm yeah, and I'm like, you look stressed. 25 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I'm stressed. 26 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm a little stressed because I did something that I 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't have done. 28 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 7: I knew there was something. 29 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: No, it's the school thing. 30 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: Oh that. 31 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, my mind went elsewhere too. 32 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: But okay, what did you guys think I did. 33 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what I can say and what I 34 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: can't say, but there's a whole bunch of stuff. And 35 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 5: then media again this morning, and there is. 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: Hopefully you're you're lying, Mark. I don't look at these things. 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: I told you, I don't. 38 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 5: I just there's a picture and I noticed the picture 39 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 5: and had a reaction to the picture. 40 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I think I saw that. 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: I didn't see that. Nope, came out fifty ten minutes ago. 42 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: I did not see that. 43 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: Wow, well oh that yeah. 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: Oh wow, we're here now. 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: I just got really sweaty. Now I want to puke 46 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: yet even either, but you know, it's really messed up. 47 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: As my ex was there the same night and the 48 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: photographer tried to get a picture with all three of us, 49 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: and I was. 50 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 51 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: Nice try and everyone kind of started laughing, but I 52 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: was like, not happening, No no, no, yeah, no, I 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: mean yes, obviously we were at the same place, and 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: when the photographer came, I just was like, and then 55 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: we were all just took a photo, but going to 56 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: be there. I had a feeling and yeah, that was 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: I will I will say that was a really that 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: that was really hard to see him there, but seeing 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: him like flirt with other girls and I mean granted 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: I was there as well, you know, do nothing, but 61 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: I it. 62 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Was that was really it was really it was hard. 63 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: It was it was really you know what it was hard. 64 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: It was like it was it looks so easy for him. 65 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: M h makes sense? 67 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's like he didn't look like a bothered 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: him one second, and that like hurt, you know, because 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I was like. 70 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: What's he's just untamed and on caged and he's happy. 71 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: I know when you're there. It's weird to be untamed 72 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 5: and on cage and knowing you're there. That seems I 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: don't know, that seems weird to me. 74 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I don't know. I think he's just 75 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 7: trying to cover it up and not show it. 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: I don't see. I don't know. 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: I think, you know, you know, unfortunately there was boundaries 78 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: around certain things and that he held a lot of 79 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: resentment against me. But I'm like, well, when things happened 80 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: repeatedly at certain places, it's very hard for me to 81 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: trust when you go out and do those things. So 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: I can totally see him being like finally I get 83 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: to like go out and drink and be at a 84 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: bar and like same. 85 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 7: I mean, so I like enjoying his best life for sure. 87 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: And and so that was you know, and then again 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: just like seeing him like with other women, I'm like, 90 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: is that going to. 91 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Be the future? You know, one with my kids? Like 92 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: that's where I go. 93 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean just to see like him be 94 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: so like happy and not bothered by it at all. I 95 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: mean we had actually we talked. I was like, this 96 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: is awkward, and he's like. 97 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: Not at all. 98 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, Like I'm glad that 99 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: he was like fine with it. But at the same time, 100 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: I was like I talked to my therapist about it. 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: I was like, just a little piece of me was 102 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: kind of like it would have been nice to be like, yeah, 103 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: this this is this is hard, but I'm glad we 104 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: can be cordial. That's just like acknowledgement that like it 105 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: might hurt a little bit. 106 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 5: I don't know, yo, could he be really trying to 107 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: go overboard to make it seem like he is fine 108 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: because he's hurting and he doesn't want to show anybody that, 109 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: so he just wants to be like show just act, 110 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 5: just act like everything is totally fine because I'm fine. 111 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: I want everyone to know I'm fine. 112 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I could see doing that if it were. 113 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 5: Me, Like I need to let her know that I'm 114 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: fine and nothing about this bothers me. 115 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: And I get that, like I mean, and I'm I'm 116 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: It was so strange. 117 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 6: I was. 118 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: I was talking to my therapists about it the other day. 119 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I just what kept coming to my 120 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: mind was how did I get here? How is my 121 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: ex husband across the room and like this and like 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: seeing I'm like how did I get here? Like this 123 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: was like that. It wasn't that I wanted to be 124 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: next to him. It's not that I wanted it's not 125 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: even that I still have feelings like none of those 126 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: things are that because I don't want to be back 127 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: in that relationship that was a bad, toxic relationship, but 128 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: just to like what I thought it was and the 129 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: memories and like all it's like I'm like. 130 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: How is this? Like how did I get here? And 131 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: so I was. 132 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 6: It was. 133 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: It was very it was very strange. But I mean, 134 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: and again, like it's not that I want him to 135 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: be depressed. I don't want them to be depressed. 136 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 137 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't either, like, but it just would have been 138 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I just wanted that, like, 139 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: and it was great that he was cordial and like, 140 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, everyone had a conversation and everyone was cordial 141 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: and everyone was really nice and he was nice, and 142 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: like everything was great, but it just would have been 143 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: nice to not nice. But I don't know, just that like, yeah, 144 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: this is acknowledgment that this is, this is a little 145 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: this is this kind of that doesn't suck. It's just 146 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: like this is this is awkward, but like for him 147 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: to be like, no. 148 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: It's great. Everything's like this is amazing. 149 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, or maybe he's just really happy not 150 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: to be with me anymore. I think there's a piece 151 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: where even like you know, he had said when we're married, 152 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: like he just wants to be able to do what 153 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: he wants to do, and unfortunately he doesn't, like never 154 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: liked boundaries, and then when you cheat on someone repeatedly, 155 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna have boundaries even more than what a normal 156 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: typical marriage of boundaries would look like. And he's just 157 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: never liked boundaries ever. So it's like it was like, 158 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, I think he said this too. He's like, 159 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: there was no way it was ever going to work 160 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: because he just can't have those he can't be one down, 161 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: he can't have those restrictions. 162 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 7: Well then maybe he is happy and maybe he just 163 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 7: needs to live that life of going out and never 164 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 7: you know, good luck to the next girl having to 165 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 7: deal with that, though. 166 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: Well she won't have the trust issues, you know, like 167 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: because he won't cheat on them. Hopefully don't look at me. 168 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: But anyways, Wow, I did not see that that. 169 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: Was the school thing. 170 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: You were going to tell us was the school thing? Yeah, yeah, 171 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: I started. 172 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: So, Okay, this is kind of like what Chelsea Handler 173 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 2: said the other day, where you fire off a little 174 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: too fast. And I know that I do this and 175 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm working on not doing this, but in this situation 176 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: when it's around my kids, I. 177 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Fire off way too fast. 178 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: So I go into so jasonly goes two half days 179 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: and I even take him out. I pay for the 180 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: full day, but he I take him out of the 181 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: half day or like, I take him out in the 182 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: middle of the day because he still naps really good 183 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: at home. So I'm like, I just don't want to 184 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: like mess that up, so and I kind of wasn't. 185 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: Now they're for sure not going to be back if 186 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: they listen to my podcast, but I won't say that. 187 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: I won't say the school teachers. 188 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Right, So I was kind of like not loving the 189 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: one teacher. It's just I just didn't get a good vibe. 190 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: Didn't call miss missus McGillicutty sounds like great, Yeah, where 191 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: did you come on? 192 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Where did you pull? Missus? Missus l This is McGillicutty. 193 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So Missus McGillicutty, just I just don't really like her, 194 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Like she just kind of like gave me like a 195 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: weird vibe. But I will say I'm very highly sensitive 196 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: to Jase right now because he is he's having a 197 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: really tough time with transitions with the divorce. Like he 198 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: on on transition days, he's he struggles really bad. He's 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: he's super clingy, but he also is like very angry, 200 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: and he's just he's mad, he's sad, he's like all 201 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: the things like he just it's it's really sad to see. 202 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: And so I'm just like overly sensitive about him and 203 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: him being taken care of when when he's not with me. 204 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: So missus McGillicutty when when I met her, I was 205 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: just kind of like, but he needs to be somewhere. 206 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: That's something too, because like when he's with me, like 207 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: he's so clinging, and I'm like, I need at least 208 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: two days where I can do some some work because 209 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: he just won't let me do anything without him, like 210 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: basically on me like two half days, so from nine 211 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: to twelve. So I go there and he is soiled 212 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: in his pea and I was like, did you go 213 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: to the bath? Like he clearly went to the bathroom. 214 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, when did this happen? And she goes a 215 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: little while ago, and I'm like, a little while ago, 216 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: what do you mean. 217 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: She's like, well, we were. 218 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: Outside and then we came in and then and I 219 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: was like, right, but all the kids are now like 220 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: getting in their nap time position. You could have clearly 221 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: changed him a little while ago. Like if it was 222 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: like five minutes, I'd have been like, oh, okay, like 223 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: you know, maybe ten a little while ago, Like what 224 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: is a little while too. A little while is. 225 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 7: Like twenty to thirty minutes to me, I don't know specifically, 226 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 7: but knowing that they were outside, I. 227 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Mean the kids were sleep, they were in their cots. 228 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Jason was waiting for me. Yeah, yeah, no, so that 229 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: means that he's too long. That means that he was 230 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: outside and then he sat and ate his lunch, thank 231 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: you lunch. 232 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 7: But didn't bring them bring him in for some reason 233 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 7: because of numbers, because they have to have a certain amount. 234 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: Of kids with teachers or whatever. But the fact that 235 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: they sat through lunch. 236 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: So they go outside lunch down for now, so I wouldn't. 237 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: So they're like, well, we can change him now, and 238 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: she goes to like touch him. I was like, do 239 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: not touch my son. And then I just grabbed him 240 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: and I was just like, we are not coming back. 241 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: So then because I'm like it's my son, he soiled 242 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: in his own piss, Like no, So I go to 243 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: the front office. I was like, I did not like 244 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: miss mcgilly called it whatever mcgilly cutty, I don't like 245 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: her now and a little while ago is unacceptable like 246 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: not happening. So I was like, we're not coming back. 247 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Well now I have had nowhere to take him. I've 248 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: called every freaking preschool. We are like I'm in like 249 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: the waitless for like the sixth seventh kid and I'm like, 250 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: I need help, Like we're like the craziest we've ever been. 251 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: I've got auditions, I've got like I mean, there's so 252 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: much going on a single mom in it like losing 253 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: my mind, and I'm like, I need these two days 254 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: for like sanity and to get stuff done. And so 255 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: I've called a bunch of places. I've emailed a bunch 256 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: of places and they're like, well, you're like tenth in line. 257 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: So I email them. I email the Old school and 258 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: I was like, tail between my legs. I was like, 259 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: I was like, I apologize for my reaction and can 260 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: I come back please? 261 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: Did you acknowledge your tail between your legs? 262 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 6: Because that's funny if you did that. 263 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: No, like, no joke. I can read you the email. Yeah, 264 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: I was like that. I mean I know imas pulled 265 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: up for you right now. 266 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: They tell if you're to come back, I mean you 267 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: have to be like, look, I was a little bit 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: of an outrageous bitch, but at the same time like, 269 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: but they have to also, it's not accept I would 270 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: like to talk to the teacher. 271 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: So this would happened. 272 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Literally subject line Jace tail between legs do dot that 273 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: I need him out? 274 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: Of his house. Hal, could he just come back. 275 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: Until he can move to a different class, until afferent class? 276 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: So because I want him in the next class, like 277 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: the goal is to get him to the next class. 278 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Like for the other teacher. Sure, apparently you guys don't like. 279 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: No, I don't have an issue with her. She's just 280 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: not as warm. I think she teaches. She's good for 281 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: what she's good for. She teaches them independents. 282 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm stressed out. So but they have not 283 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: emailed me back yet because the're probably like truck for you. 284 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: So this is where I haven't responded. Usually they always 285 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: respond to me the best part. So I told my therapist, 286 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta work on my actions a 287 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: little bit. I think I just needed to. I should 288 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: have just taken a breath and said, don't touch my son, 289 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna not say to quit leave, And 290 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: then what I should have done then was just said 291 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: I would like to have a conversation so this doesn't 292 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: happen in the future. But instead I've now screwed myself 293 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: and I am and. 294 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 7: Now that's going to be the teacher warm that you 295 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 7: have to see every day. 296 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: They are, Yeah, they are. 297 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: It's fine. 298 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: This is a lesson. 299 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: This is a good lesson learned. 300 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 7: Don't Chelsea teach us anything the other day. Look when 301 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 7: it's my kids, I know, I get it. 302 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: I did the same thing. I get it. 303 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: Look if it was, like I get it, you soiled 304 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: in your pa like Hope with Catherine, put it depend on. 305 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: I get it. Kids. 306 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 7: It's unacceptable. I mean, I'm not gonna defend. I mean 307 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 7: it's unacceptable. 308 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: For sure. 309 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: A little while is unacceptable. 310 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, if they have an accident, you have 311 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 7: to as soon as possible. You can even get a 312 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 7: floater to come in and do something. 313 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: Keep as soon as possible. 314 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: It needs to be changed. 315 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: Do you ever rash or anything? 316 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: I was so flustered, I didn't even know. I just 317 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: like coddled them like a little baby, which. 318 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 7: Like you bothered old thing. 319 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: Mama loves you. 320 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: I will never bring you back to you because he's 321 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: my son and I'm obsessed with him and I love him. 322 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: But I agree with you. 323 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 7: He has to be out of the house because you 324 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 7: have help here in the house. 325 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, Like I needed to do something earlier today 326 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: and like I have someone helping, and she's amazing and 327 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: I love her so much. But the problem is is 328 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: like he hears me. So he comes in the room 329 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to do this thing for and for 330 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: you know, content stuff, and I'm just like and then 331 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: I feel bad. So I'm like, okay, buddy, like come here. 332 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: But then it stresses me out. So then when you know, 333 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: and then she comes and she's like, and I got 334 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: the podcast and I want to get you know, I'm. 335 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: Pumped up for the guests we have today. 336 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: So it's just i mean, look, it's all champagne problems, 337 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: but it's also and now Mark, there's a People magazine 338 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: thing on me. Now I'm just like all freaking faster. 339 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do right now. Can 340 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: you imagine though, of us three got in a photo, 341 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: what were they thinking thinking? Well, guess what. I was like, 342 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: ain't gonna but they were like all gone for it. 343 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, do you know that 344 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: you're about to take a. 345 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: Photo with Like what are you? What are you thinking? 346 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: Got a chance? 347 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: Holy balls? 348 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm super pumped because we have Mike Vogel 349 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: coming on the show and he's from Sex Life, and 350 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: I just wow, there's just a lot to talk to 351 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: him about. So let's take a break and then get 352 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: him on. 353 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 6: Hi. 354 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: I just have to tell. 355 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: You that I I first fell in love with you 356 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: as Johnny, Like Johnny, come on, you see help I 357 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: have Okay, Johnny like he's like remember when she was 358 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: like Octavia Spencer, she was so scared because like the 359 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: husband's coming home and then she like drops her groceries, 360 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: but like Johnny like helps pick up the groceries, like 361 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: Johnny's amazing. 362 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 5: Member. 363 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was. I was the one, the one person 364 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 6: that didn't get to play a racist. It was fantastic 365 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 6: in that movie. What a beautiful, beautiful cast of characters, 366 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: beautiful message. To be a part of that was really neat. 367 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I know, I mean like you crushed 368 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: it and you're just like yeah, I was like I 369 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: want I like find me a Johnny like I wanted 370 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Johnny like just like a nice. 371 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: That was doing that was that was the was Uh. 372 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: We filmed that in Greenwood, Misissippi, and that I always 373 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 6: loved the style. But that was sort of as a 374 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 6: kid from Philadelphia, it's you know, you're you're Yankee eyzed. 375 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: But but I but I got to Mississippi, and I'm like, 376 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: all right, this, I need this in my life. And 377 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 6: uh and so a couple of years later we moved 378 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: moved to Nashville here, so it was great. 379 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: How do you like Nashville? So were you living in LA? Like, 380 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: did you did you go Philly to La, La to Nashville. 381 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Philly to LA for twelve years and then here 382 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 6: in Nashville for eight So I can say I was 383 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: here before the mass exodus of of LA people to 384 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: to Nashville. 385 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll I'll let you have that one, because I 386 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: was kind of saying, like I did, I was Detroit 387 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: to LA for about twelve years and then came here 388 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: about what five years. 389 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: Ago, six years ago? So I feel like we can. 390 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: We can say that like everyone in the last two 391 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: years can just like suck it. 392 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we're 393 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 6: og It's it's uh, it's interesting. It's an interesting question. 394 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 6: Do I like Do I like Nashville post exodus or 395 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 6: or pre exodus? It's a tough one. It's it will 396 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 6: always be an infinitely better town than Los Angeles. And 397 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 6: I love Nashville and I certainly love Franklin but there 398 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 6: are flavors of Los Angeles still, you know, now creeping in. 399 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 6: Uh and I just keep saying, well, I'm going to 400 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 6: have to move further out. I don't know. 401 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: Well, that's like. 402 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: It's kinda be hard for you because Catherine's and she's 403 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: a you were born and raised here, so it's like 404 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: you probably hate all these other people. 405 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 7: I am a unicorn, but yeah, I know it's kind 406 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 7: of terrible. 407 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: It is changed. 408 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: What makes it like is what makes it bad? For 409 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: like these are like us coming in here. 410 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 6: A lot. Let me count the ways, right, well, let. 411 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: Me start with how much a I'm just gonna I mean, 412 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's been nice that there's like yeah yeah, 413 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: nicer restaurants and stuff like that, Like I'll take that, 414 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: and just the traffic and the growth, and then. 415 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: You know, it's just people, it's their energy. 416 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So how many kids? 417 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: Three? 418 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 6: Ages twelve? And my son turned eight on Friday? So yeah, yeah, 419 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 6: I'm old dad. Now that's crazy to me. My gen 420 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 6: Z daughter frequently reminds me of how out of touch 421 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 6: I am. Dad. Listen to ski Mask the slump God. 422 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, what's his name? Slump God? Okay, is that yeah, so, 423 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 6: but it's yeah, it's it's fun. And I love, love, 424 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 6: love my kids. They're awesome and and Nashville has provided 425 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: them an awesome I'm staring at our horse out of 426 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: the back pasture and it's just provided a wonderful, wonderful 427 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: upbringing for the. 428 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure. 429 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean I've got two and I remember at the 430 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: time when I was married, we were like, we got 431 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: to get out of La Like this is just I 432 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: want my daughter to be able to ride her bike 433 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: to her friend's house and like not get you know, 434 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: trip over, like yes whatever. So yeah, right, there's a 435 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: lot of things we could trip over, but yeah, I can. 436 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 6: Make a trip over out there. 437 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: Okay, but I have to. So I I heard all 438 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: about sex life and then I was like, all right, 439 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to finally do it. 440 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 6: And I watched it. 441 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: I jumped in. 442 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: But the funniest part was is because I'm a I'm 443 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: a newly divorcee and I'm sitting there and I'm like 444 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: I pour my like glass of wine and sitting on 445 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: the couch, I'm folding laundry. And the episode, the first 446 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: episode is like you know this, like Mom, She's just 447 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: like and I. 448 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Was like, I feel so sick, just like I was 449 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: just like, oh my god. 450 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: But then what the crazy thing is is like when 451 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm watching it, but I'm like, you know, I'm like, 452 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: you're a great husband in it too. So it's like 453 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: just watching like the whole parallels of everything. It's so interesting. 454 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: But when you read the script, and especially with that 455 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: first like pilot episode where you kind of like, oh, wow, 456 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: like I do this to my wife, like I need 457 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: to like kind of show her more and attention in 458 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: a way like that, you don't realize that you're not 459 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: doing it until you're kind of set in that role. 460 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 6: You're you're It's what I love about the show is 461 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: the the yeah, I've been married for eighteen years, and 462 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 6: it's you don't realize the ways that you get complacent 463 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 6: and then you get lazy and you The beauty of 464 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 6: any long term relationship is that you develop a shorthand 465 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: with one another, and that's the ease of knowing someone 466 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 6: that well is awesome and it's what you're there for. 467 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 6: At the same time, you develop an ease and a 468 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 6: shorthand that doesn't allow one or the other or both 469 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 6: to express maybe certain things that they're feeling in certain 470 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 6: ways that their needs are being unmet, or that they're 471 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 6: not feeling seen, that they're not feeling hurt, and you 472 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 6: don't realize the way that that can that that can 473 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 6: were up over a long haul in a marriage and 474 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 6: it comes out maybe as you know, as as Sarah's 475 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 6: character in the in the show is I just I 476 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 6: need to have fun again. I need to have But 477 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 6: the root of that may lie somewhere in in this 478 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 6: thing that in that relationship where Cooper, where her husband 479 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 6: has not has not seen and validated certain things in 480 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: her that she and it may be things about herself 481 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 6: she doesn't even know that she needs to feel validated 482 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 6: about until all of a sudden it's like boom, there 483 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 6: it is. This is a problem. Now, this is a thing. 484 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: So I think that has struck a chord with a 485 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 6: lot of people. You know, the show certainly leans heavily 486 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 6: on the physicality. But I think, like I think it's 487 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: it's so funny, I said throughout a lot of the press, 488 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 6: the show's misleading. You know, we live in a we 489 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 6: live in a world where you can add access pornography 490 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 6: and someone's perfect life instantaneously, and you can get whatever 491 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 6: payoff you want. But the real hard work of any 492 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: relationship is doing the work learning you know, love making 493 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 6: is a language all to itself, and learning how to 494 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: keep that fresh and interesting over the long haul of something. 495 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: There's a challenge, and that's a person's hand I want 496 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 6: to shake at the end of all that. And so, 497 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 6: you know, you put a bunch of halfway decent people 498 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 6: to look at on screen, and that becomes like a distraction. 499 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 6: But I think it's a distraction from the deeper things 500 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: that are happening, you know, which, as you've said, you know, 501 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 6: you kind of clue in on. I think it's resonated 502 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 6: because especially heading through the pandemic and lockdown like we 503 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 6: just have, a lot of people have been forced to 504 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: stay home, stare at each other in the face and say, 505 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 6: were you again we get here? And did we ever 506 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: have this figured out? And some people have said, well, 507 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: it's time to figure it out, and other people have said, nah, 508 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 6: forget it. It's easy to do this somewhere else, and 509 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 6: people will take from it what they want. You know, 510 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: I got so many messages from people who said, my 511 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 6: husband and I sat down and had our first hard 512 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 6: conversation in years and we're excited for where that where 513 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 6: this is going to go, And other people said, I 514 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 6: can't have that conversation, you know. So it's just interesting 515 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 6: how it kind of impacts different people different ways. 516 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Did you have a conversation or something like, oh, hey, 517 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: I've noticed like through this, like with with your relationship 518 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: with your wife, that like where you've noticed where you've 519 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: become complacent in certain areas. 520 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 6: Oh, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. You know again, 521 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 6: you have you have a certain way of being and 522 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: I think, as guys, and I can only speak for guys, 523 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: we have the mentality of wanting to be celebrated and 524 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: wanting to be seen and known is not as big 525 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 6: a deal for us, and so we project that, I 526 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 6: think a lot of times into our relationships, and it's 527 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 6: a constant reminder. I had someone in college tell me 528 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 6: he said, fellas, how many of you who are married? 529 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 6: Which I wasn't on of course, but he said, how 530 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: many of you that are married are still dating your wives? 531 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 6: Everyone started to laugh. He said, no, no, no, I'm dead serious. 532 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 6: How many of you are still dating your wives because 533 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 6: of the minute you stop your relationships over And I 534 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 6: think we run through that process early on of dating 535 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 6: and making the commitment, and then we forget that that's 536 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 6: an ongoing thing that then has to continue to evolve 537 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 6: and develop as the relationship goes on. 538 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in eighteen you said eighteen years you've 539 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: been married, And. 540 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: How long have you been married? 541 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: Fourteen? 542 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's just like a long time because 543 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: you're changing and you're growing and you're you know, it's 544 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: just like to have that. You got to have that 545 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: like awesome communication because if not, I mean, you're like 546 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: you said, like during the pandemic, you're like, wait, huh, 547 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: who who are you? 548 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: Like I don't even know who you are? 549 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: M hmm. 550 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of you know, first of all, congrats you're 551 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: incredible in the like in the role and I love 552 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: the first season. Were you a little like nervous telling 553 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: your wife about it? Like, I know, you're an actual 554 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: You've done a bunch of stuff, you've been you know, 555 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: but I mean this is like a totally different level of. 556 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard, and we had a lot 557 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 6: of she you know, she read the scripts along with me, 558 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 6: and and it's hard. It continues to be hard. It's 559 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 6: not it's it takes a special special person to be 560 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: the spouse of someone in this industry. And it's the 561 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 6: same with a lot of industries. I've said, you know, 562 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: I've often compared it, while I'm in no way comparing 563 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 6: myself to a first responder or a soldier or someone 564 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: like that, But it takes a certain a certain strength 565 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: of a spouse to be married to someone who when 566 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 6: they leave and walk out that front door in the morning, 567 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 6: or when they go on deployment, you don't know if 568 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: they're coming back. And there's plenty of people who would 569 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 6: look at that and say, yeah, that's not a that's 570 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 6: not a life that I think I can I can stomach. 571 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 6: That's not a life that I think I can that 572 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 6: I can sign up for. And the tough part about 573 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 6: this business is it's why I think you see so 574 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 6: many relational issues is over the long haul of a career, 575 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 6: there's there's so many different ways that that things can 576 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 6: go sideways. If you're not being diligent and being on 577 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 6: top of your your relationship, it's easy for things to 578 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 6: get away from you. And she is fortunately an unbelievable, 579 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 6: unbelievable woman. She's certainly certainly the better of these two ads. 580 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 7: So speaking of telling your wife, what about telling your kids, Like, 581 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 7: how do you have that conversation with because I'm scared 582 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 7: to watch it because I'm afraid my twelve year old 583 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 7: son is going to go on my Netflix and see 584 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 7: that I'm watching sex Life. 585 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question. 586 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: I have watched it. Take it off the Netflix. 587 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 6: It certainly is a difficult and it's a subject that 588 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 6: we had to broach that we knew we knew heading 589 00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 6: into this, but I think kind of where we sided ish, 590 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 6: there's still fourteen year old is coming into a place 591 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 6: where it's it's hard hiding certain things from her, but 592 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 6: also wanting for me being and I think for my 593 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: wife as well, being involved in a show where it's 594 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 6: done through the female gaze for the first time, you 595 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 6: know ever, you know, normally these things are done through 596 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 6: the male gaze and giving voice to female desire and uh, 597 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 6: you know, the issues within a woman of wanting wanting 598 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 6: to be seen and known and realized, and wanting that 599 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 6: from my daughters someday for their relationships and knowing that 600 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 6: that the world will will heep on its own stuff 601 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 6: on them and and and hopefully to be involved in 602 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 6: something again. And this is. If I have one reservation 603 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 6: to the show, it's it's that that it becomes about 604 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 6: the physicality when you know. What's misleading about it to 605 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 6: me is so much people. 606 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: Are looking at it like, oh my god, it's a 607 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: soft porn. It's like, no, it's actually like this wife 608 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: is like, you know right, So yeah. 609 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: It's also this place of we show. Someone had said 610 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: to me in the process of the press. They were like, dude, 611 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 6: what does it feel like playing the dope, playing the 612 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 6: you know, playing the guy? They can't figure it out? 613 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 6: I said, I'm sorry, I said, I don't. I don't 614 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 6: quite see it that way. In fact, I see him 615 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 6: as all of our experiences, I said, because the mind 616 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 6: blowing sex that she's having. As I sit here and 617 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 6: say it quietly, I'm staring at my daughter on the 618 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 6: back porch, that answers my question. You know, the mind 619 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 6: blowing sex that she's having with her ex boyfriend. Any 620 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 6: of us that have been in relationship for any amount 621 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 6: of time, Yeah, that's there sometimes, and that probably was 622 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 6: there a lot in the beginning. Maybe maybe it wasn't, 623 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 6: But like anything, it takes work, and if you think 624 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 6: it's going to stay like that all the time you're 625 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 6: sadly misguided and it becomes about the very deeper things. 626 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 6: And so so I said to her, I said, I 627 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: actually quite like Cooper's fumbling and stumbling and getting squirted 628 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: in the face with breast milk, because I think all 629 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: of that is real having lived those moments and in fact, 630 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 6: between between a husband and wife, between two spouses, those 631 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 6: are the things that deep in love because there are 632 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: moments that anyone can go out and have a romp 633 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: and have have a wild night, but it's those intimate, 634 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 6: awkward moments that only two people like that could share 635 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: that actually for me get logged logged away in the 636 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 6: in the vault of that's pretty stick and cool to 637 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 6: share something that awkward and that intimate with someone that 638 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 6: deepens love. 639 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: So sure, yeah, no, I agree with you, and especially 640 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: like where you want the show to be known for. 641 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: And I respect that a lot. And I think like 642 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: even circling back on like you know, the with the wife, 643 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: like with your wife is you know, we were having 644 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: a conversation just the other night about how you know, 645 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: talking to people and it's like, hey, so like in 646 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: my roles, like I'm going to have to kiss people 647 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: and like are you comfortable with that? And trying to 648 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: explain to someone that doesn't understand that world can be 649 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: hard because I'm like, it's so, it's not really like 650 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: you're you have to have certain boundaries when you're on 651 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: set and offset, and but like onset, it's like not 652 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: like after I made out with the person, it's like, hey. 653 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: What are you having for lunch? 654 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Like do you want to get the oysters or do 655 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: you want to get the like calamar Like it's like, yeah, 656 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: it's really not. It's only when you step outside of 657 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: the boundaries of going in the trailer or you know, 658 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: reading out or just like and having those conversations or 659 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: talking too much about your problems in your marriage or whatever, like, 660 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: that's going to start blurring the lines. So I think 661 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: as long as you can have the healthy boundaries, it's 662 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: it's it can work, you know, obviously it can. 663 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: And it's it's also like it's hard to describe to 664 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 6: someone this is like a handshake, yeah, you know. And 665 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 6: what's what's more interesting is the most intimate thing that 666 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 6: we do on a set is a stage. Just that's 667 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 6: because everything we're doing in this show is camera angles 668 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 6: and uh, all of that stuff. It's far less intimate 669 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 6: than a stage case. That's the one thing that we 670 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 6: do that is that any actor does that is probably 671 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 6: the most the most similar to real life and not. 672 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 6: And I think you've got to set up you have 673 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 6: to police yourself when you have to set those boundaries 674 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 6: if you plan on having any sort of any sort 675 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 6: of long lasting relationship. Yeah, where you're where you're honoring, 676 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 6: where you're honoring the other. 677 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: Person, for sure. Okay, moving on to collection. 678 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: So it's available now theaters that you on demand, all 679 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: digital platforms. 680 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: You play a debt collector. 681 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, tell me. 682 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: Tell me about the collection. Give me, give me because 683 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: I want to. I want to watch it, but I 684 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: need to know. Tell me, tell me what it is, 685 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: what's about. 686 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 6: So it's it's a look into it's a look into 687 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 6: the high stakes world of debt collection. We've all gotten 688 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 6: those annoying phone calls. I still get them now in 689 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 6: my forties of hey, your college debt is outstanding. No 690 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 6: it's not. No it's not. But you see the angle 691 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: and as I as I found out, the world is 692 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: far seedier and far more menacing than I realized. As 693 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 6: you get into the higher, the higher dollar targets, but 694 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 6: it centers around Alex Petipher and I started this debt 695 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 6: collection business. And what I loved about the film is Alex. 696 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 6: I was like, you get to be there and be 697 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 6: pretty and beautiful and be the love interest and I 698 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 6: don't have to deal with that for once, and I 699 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 6: just love it. I can be a complete jerk and 700 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 6: I can be brash and uh and not have to 701 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: There's a relief in not having to service the love 702 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 6: story at the same time. So he had a lot 703 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: of the heavy lifting. But our the high value target 704 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 6: that we kind of go after turns out to be 705 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 6: a woman that he falls head over heels for, and 706 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 6: it just complicates the line of priorities between he and 707 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 6: I and her and how that all breaks down here. 708 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. 709 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, guys, make sure to watch sex Life and Collection 710 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: and follow along with Mike Bogel because he is awesome. 711 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, thank you so much for coming on Wine Down, 712 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: appreciate you, thank you. 713 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh he's so sweet. 714 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 4: He is he's so cute. 715 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 3: He's so cute. He's so cute, He's adorable. 716 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: Can I reminds me of Ryan, Like just there's like 717 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: good guys like married for like eight very much. 718 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: Ryan's been married for what nineteen years? My old cool star. 719 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: It's like they're good guys, great guys, good guys out there. 720 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: They're just all married. 721 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: True, they've only married for the those twenty years. 722 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 6: You know. 723 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 2: It's like they're good actors. I mean, I know I 724 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: love that. Do you think you could ever marry an actor? 725 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 6: Like? 726 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 4: Could you? 727 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: If Nick was like? 728 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's different because I think it's it's hard 729 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: for people that weren't than want to. It's like whoa whoa, whoa, 730 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: whoa whoa. But I don't know, could you be okay 731 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: watching Nick make out with someone? 732 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 4: Probably not? 733 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: No, probably not, but like you see me do it 734 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: and you know it's not anything No. 735 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, probably not. M I'll just leave it at that. 736 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 7: I mean Nick has always said that, like he would 737 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 7: never want to go on the road, like as a musician, 738 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 7: you know, we're so used to music business. He's like, 739 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 7: there's no way, Like women are throwing themselves like I 740 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 7: would just never put myself in that position. 741 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: H yeah, I mean I mean the boundaries is a 742 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 2: tough thing. Yeah, I mean that's not being hones set. 743 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 4: You'd like to think that you would be good at that. 744 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 7: But you know, I don't know. And I think that 745 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 7: even the people that are just like special people, the 746 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 7: spouse that just you know, takes a certain person to 747 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 7: do that. I still do not believe there's not a 748 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 7: level of jealousy at times. I think they still get 749 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 7: jealous sometimes. 750 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: Well, for one, well, I was never jealous of any 751 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: of like the actor guys I dated that had like 752 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: makeup scenes. 753 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 3: Which is so weird, right. 754 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 7: I don't mean if you're both actors, oh okay, I 755 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 7: mean if one is not and one is, so you 756 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 7: might be married for twenty years and you may be 757 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 7: the wife to an actor who's and you are that 758 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 7: special person and you're still married, you handle it. I 759 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 7: still think they get jealous. I mean, how could they 760 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 7: not exactly. I think that they're lying if they say 761 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 7: they never get jealous. 762 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 2: I mean, we even talk to my co star because 763 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 2: it's like people, I never met my co star's wife, 764 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: but a lot of people were like. 765 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you and Ryan you're so cute together. 766 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: And you know, I ended up having talking to his 767 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: wife because I'm like, you know, people are a very 768 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: invested in my love life. 769 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: But also, you know. 770 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: Ryan and I did have. We do have a really 771 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: great connection and like you know, we're being fun and 772 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: posting for lifetime and on the socials, and I think 773 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: that that would be hard for anyone, which is why 774 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: I talked to you know, his wife to be like, hey, 775 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: like I can only imagine, like that's really hard. 776 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: And people are like, oh, you should. 777 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: Date him, and I'm like, you know, he's married, like 778 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: and so that's like and she's very secure, Like they're 779 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: very secure, like they've got great boundaries all of that, 780 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: but it's still like, I bet there a little peace. 781 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: Well yeah, she's like there's a little piece where it's 782 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: just kind of like hey, like you know, married for 783 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: like nineteen something years, you know. 784 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, so just making sure you know that. 785 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's great about it. No, she's amazing. 786 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 2: And if you guys live in La Plate Therapy is 787 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: their company and they do great like food delivery stuff. 788 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: So but yeah. 789 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 2: I think it's just a no matter what I think, it's, 790 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: it would be hard for anybody. 791 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: Mine is. I think actor on actor is a little 792 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: bit different. 793 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I just think that you know the 794 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 7: world more, but like but at the same time, you 795 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 7: know the world more so it would be a. 796 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: Little like I see, I like boundaries. I like when 797 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: people give me boundaries, and I like to get boundaries 798 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 2: like a child. 799 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: I like a child. 800 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: I like to be told basically what I can't and 801 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: can do. 802 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 4: They were going to see what. 803 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 5: The problem is. We have polar opposite situations here, right, 804 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 5: she likes me. 805 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. 806 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 6: I don't like boundaries. 807 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 3: There we go. 808 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: Maybe that's all we got. Glad I spent thousands of 809 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: dollars in therapy for that one. 810 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: That's good. 811 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: All right, talk to you all next week. Go have 812 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: some sex.