WEBVTT - T.J. and Amy Tell All Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And yes, I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast today. I'm probably not going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of it because now I've built it up

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm not a good starter, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go for it anyway. All I have to say is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited it's the last week of February. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a good way to look at it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the shortest month of the year. But does it

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<v Speaker 1>always feel like the longest month of the year?

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<v Speaker 2>To you?

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<v Speaker 3>Great job starting, by the way, I felt we should

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<v Speaker 3>say that should thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>I need affirmation and validation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Amy, I hate February over to you, TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm trying to sell hope and you know, positivity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, with that picked me up. What was the

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<v Speaker 3>question again, you say I hate February?

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<v Speaker 1>Two was well kind of, But what I was basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying was, does the shortest day of the month feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the longest the shortest month of the year, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the longest month of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh No, because Black History Month never feels like a

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<v Speaker 3>long month to me. It always just flies bah, which

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<v Speaker 3>I guess was by design, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight days.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we get twenty nine this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sleepier. Yeah, there's an extra person to celebrate in

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<v Speaker 1>Black History Month? And is that what they do?

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<v Speaker 3>We get an extra day, leapier black people are leaving

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<v Speaker 3>with joy? Oh no, please, just another This has been

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<v Speaker 3>a weird month for a whole bunch of reasons. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>but in New York especially, it gets cold and everything

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<v Speaker 3>gets kind of miserable, and you just it's not just cold,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that cold it makes you not want to step

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<v Speaker 3>a foot outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, sucks and the sun doesn't shine that much. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>onto something positive. This is something that we just were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with Emma and Andrew here with us because

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<v Speaker 1>we all got excited about this. I feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>schoolgirl when I know that we get to have more

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<v Speaker 1>daylight this weekend we switch over. There's cloppying and smiles. Yay,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get as excited about it, TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>When does it happen again this weekend? Saturday weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, you go to sleep on Saturday and you

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<v Speaker 1>spring forward, so you lose an hour of sleep, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fully willing to give back to get that extra

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<v Speaker 1>hour sun.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this week you're telling me I get an

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<v Speaker 3>extra day for Black History and more sunlight. Yes, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a money week, is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>I just made February better, right, No, I'm kidding. So

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of updates. We I was. Yeah, last last

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<v Speaker 1>week we were proudly saying that we were on our

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<v Speaker 1>run streak. Hell us, the dbay inspired us to run

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<v Speaker 1>every day at least two miles. Wellout, a'll want. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week just got busy and then once we missed one day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's just stick to the hall Higden

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<v Speaker 1>regular scheduled run. We have like a running a training

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<v Speaker 1>program and you actually we print it out, we put

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<v Speaker 1>it up on the kitchen and we have run days

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<v Speaker 1>and he suggests or at least the plan suggests four

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<v Speaker 1>running days a week. So we did do the four

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<v Speaker 1>running day and that is what I had done before.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel any different not running every day?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we were just so busy celebrating Black History that

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<v Speaker 3>we we missed a day of running. Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a andy. This is a theme now. This is all

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about is a Black history. The extra day now

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<v Speaker 3>is all you're getting from me? So yes, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 3>about it all. What were we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about missing we are. We we ended

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<v Speaker 1>our running Strike Street.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a that was that was legit. There was

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<v Speaker 3>some you know, life got in the way. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>we could have run it eleven night or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was a way too. But it was a

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<v Speaker 3>weird day and you know, life was coming at us

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<v Speaker 3>for a whole host of reasons, and we used today

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<v Speaker 3>but we didn't. And as well, I would suggest nobody should.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't beat yourself up about it. If your dry January,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a vegetarian and you had piece of meat,

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<v Speaker 3>what we got to give yourself a break, and it's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And we gave ourselves a break, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so yeah, this week we've got I think

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<v Speaker 1>we So the New York City Half Marathon, which we're

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<v Speaker 1>also excited about, is March seventeenth, I believe. So what

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<v Speaker 1>about three weeks from now. So this week we have

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<v Speaker 1>a five miler, a three mile er, a five mile,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have our nine mile run this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You ready for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I hope I can recover in time from all

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<v Speaker 3>the celebrating I'm doing for the extra day of Black

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<v Speaker 3>History months.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Also celebrating that my youngest Annaly's made

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<v Speaker 1>it back safe and sound in one piece from Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was nice to welcome her back.

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<v Speaker 3>She was not celebrating Black History Month well in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>In Germany, no, she was not. She was not, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was doing a lot of celebrating because

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<v Speaker 1>she came back very tired, but in one piece, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I ask at this point, and her passport

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<v Speaker 1>was in to.

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<v Speaker 3>And she came back. I mean, thank goodness she's back

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<v Speaker 3>in time. Since we have an extra day to celebrate Black.

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<v Speaker 1>History mark, what will she do with all of that

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<v Speaker 1>celebration ahead of her for the next few days nowhere?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get her out somewhere, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's amazing. Also, you know I mentioned March March seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the day that March Madness starts? Uh no, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>March nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go. So it's the same it's the same week, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>playing games essentially, yes, but yes, that week is a

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<v Speaker 3>big one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I last year was my first March with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were in hiding seclusion at least, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got to really fully experience March Madness with you last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year, am I wrong? Like basketball is already

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<v Speaker 1>taking over our lives?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it happens when as soon as the college football

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<v Speaker 3>and the NFL season are over, the focus absolutely does

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<v Speaker 3>shift and now everybody's every game matters. Everybody's still trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get into the tournament. So yes, right now it

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<v Speaker 3>is intense, and they have all the airwork, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to see time on Sunday or Saturday to

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<v Speaker 3>college football or NFL football. So it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what was happening yesterday. I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>couch watching TJ watching basketball all day.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you gonna watch me? Watch it? Why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you watch it? Watch your TV?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I glanced, but I did get a little board,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I thought it'd be fun to put a

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<v Speaker 1>little experiment out. Actually, I got the idea from my

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<v Speaker 1>from my cousin Nick, to see, hey, what what what

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<v Speaker 1>do our listeners want to hear from us or what

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<v Speaker 1>questions might they have for us? So I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put it out on Instagram just to see what I

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<v Speaker 1>would get, and it was it was. It was fun

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot of themes to it because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wanted to know about running. It seemed like that

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<v Speaker 1>was like the number one thing people wanted to ask about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was going to give credit to the first

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<v Speaker 1>person who responded on a DM to me and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved I love her handle her Instagram handle lima bean casserole,

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<v Speaker 1>because castle roles have been a theme with us too,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just think it was funny that the first person.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been a theme for you. This is not a

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<v Speaker 3>thing for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, it's my midwestern white eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But lima bean castle.

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<v Speaker 1>Role, so it made me laugh. Lima bean cast role

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know our health, wellness and diet information.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot of lima beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had a lima bean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I know. I hate lima bean. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the only way I can know. And I've also had

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<v Speaker 3>a casserole. So she combined well she lima beans, squash,

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<v Speaker 3>liver casserole. Let's throw all with guacamole.

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<v Speaker 1>Sour cream and guacamole on top.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw all the things I hate into one.

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<v Speaker 1>So in terms of TJ's diet, he's a texture person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't. I don't have a thing with like

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<v Speaker 3>pudding and whipped cream.

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<v Speaker 1>And yogurt and any of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Guacamole and alvocotte. Hate avocado. I hate it. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a texture.

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<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't like anything creamy or whipped like whipped cream.

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<v Speaker 1>He freaks out. The funny thing is he yucks my

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<v Speaker 1>m He's like, ew, that's what you say when I

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<v Speaker 1>put those things on my meal?

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<v Speaker 3>Makes me squirrel it, It makes me squirre. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>show Wipeout? We've been watching people watch wipe but we've

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<v Speaker 3>get caught up on all the old episodes. But they

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<v Speaker 3>started using foam and throwing like slime at people as

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<v Speaker 3>they go through the courses. And I have a more

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<v Speaker 3>difficult time watching the show because it sicks me out.

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<v Speaker 3>He will see that.

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<v Speaker 1>You will fast forward or say I can't watch it

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<v Speaker 1>anymore if there's slime. You just have a real issue

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<v Speaker 1>with textures.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what do you want for me?

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, what do you eat? Because Lima, being castrole,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what sorts of training and whatnot, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just health, wellness and diet. Like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>asked us what we eat? How you know how how

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<v Speaker 1>we use food to incorporate just our running and all

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<v Speaker 1>of our fitness.

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<v Speaker 3>I have always been a very good eater since college.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am pretty much just fish and veggies. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much. Don't have meat in my diet. I will

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<v Speaker 3>eat meat, like I said, I don't beat myself up

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<v Speaker 3>about it, but as far as my diet goes, my

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<v Speaker 3>meal is a Caesar salad with grilled chicken on a

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<v Speaker 3>grilled salmon on top, or maybe shrimp on top, or

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<v Speaker 3>it's a a Niewas salad with the tuna on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's it. That's I mean, you're around me all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, that's all I eat.

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<v Speaker 1>You're annoyingly healthy with your with your food because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't make the same good choices that you do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a baddie. I mean you throw some fried

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<v Speaker 3>chicken on top of a salad type of I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that sounds crazy, but you have it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>you're a terrible eating with us. We just don't incorporate

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of sugar, a lot of bread. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>no pasta like, no pasta, no. And I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>a potato of any kind on eat French fries. I

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<v Speaker 3>just it's not my work. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everyone's looking at you like wow, who is

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<v Speaker 1>this person.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is it is not a matter of

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<v Speaker 3>being disciplined, is a matter of having habits. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was in college and I played ball for a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years in the program at the University of Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had us on a particular diet. We're the

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<v Speaker 3>only carbs I got in life. They handed to me

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<v Speaker 3>from a refrigerator full of this liquid and say, here,

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<v Speaker 3>that was my car So I got into a habit

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<v Speaker 3>of eating a certain way. So I don't even cross

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<v Speaker 3>my mind to want a French fry or a baked

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<v Speaker 3>potato or let's go get pasta tonight. It just it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a routine into habit now. So more so for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just of just how I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, it's amazing to witness. I mean, he really doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I am the opposite. I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do the sugar thing. I was keto for about I

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<v Speaker 1>mean really strictly keto for about five years, even longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've let some carbs back in my life just

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<v Speaker 1>because of all of the training with running. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>not to have some carbs. But we don't do bread,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't French fries are my Achilles heel. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>chicken nuggets that I like to put into the air fryer,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel like they're slightly healthier if I cook

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<v Speaker 1>them that way, and then I put them on spinach

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, healthy things, and so that's how I justify.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, and I don't think we eat a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's another thing, like we don't eat a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and we don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of meals. I don't know how. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was more the work routine I got into with

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<v Speaker 3>are you getting up that earth? I just missed. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean we were so busy at times. Sometimes it could

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<v Speaker 3>be two in the afternoon and you go, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>did I eat it? You honestly don't even feel hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think intermittent fasting. I can't explain a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the health benefits, but I kind of fell into

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, and I think it may be beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't eaten anything today yet, have you?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean that's that's usually how I roll

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<v Speaker 1>as well. All right, So thank you Lima being cast role.

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<v Speaker 1>That was fun. Christa wants to know if we are

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<v Speaker 1>still drinking beer after our morning runs now that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not dry January.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you have a single time. And I

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<v Speaker 3>did once and I hated it. Yep, and here we

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<v Speaker 3>are where a month is almost out and it's just again.

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<v Speaker 3>You get into a routine, you get into different habits.

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<v Speaker 3>And I even forced myself. I didn't really want one,

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<v Speaker 3>I just let me try it out. I indeed I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't taste did you, I saw you do.

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<v Speaker 3>It just didn't taste good. Yeah, there you go with.

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<v Speaker 1>The habits, right, we created a really good habit. So no, Krista,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not drinking beer after our morning runs anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat wants to know how many times a week we

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<v Speaker 1>were running. I think we covered that. It's gotten less. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun though I did enjoy doing it for

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<v Speaker 1>one month. I think I'm going to do that next

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<v Speaker 1>January as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to pick it right back up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. Ye last week, which is a weird week

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<v Speaker 3>for a bunch of reasons, the kids are out of school,

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<v Speaker 3>one is traveling, and yeah, being was all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, I think, well I will get right back

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<v Speaker 3>on the streak. I would bet.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved how I felt just doing the two much.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like at least if everything else went to

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<v Speaker 1>hell that day, at least you accomplished something that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I looked at it, all right. Kristin wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's on our vision board for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Do you know, Emma? Do you know? Andrew?

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially visuals that you can plan ahead of a year,

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of a month, and they just kind of help

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<v Speaker 2>you focus on what you're trying to achieve.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you actually cut out pictures and put them

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<v Speaker 1>up on a board or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can make it digital, or you can use words of inspiration,

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<v Speaker 2>but it kind of like zones your mind and on

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<v Speaker 2>what you're focusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you done this? Do you have one?

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<v Speaker 2>I use Pinterest as like a vision board like fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's an example, what would you put

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<v Speaker 3>on a bit like I wouldn't even know for me.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Put like running goals like a marathon destination?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh that's cool, all right. It's just another way

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<v Speaker 1>of saying, what are your goals for the year? Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>but you visualize it and maybe manifest it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So yeah, I mean, definitely a marathon is

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<v Speaker 1>online for sure, probably New York. We were talking. We're

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<v Speaker 1>throwing around Chicago yesterday as a possibility, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>these days I do want to do London, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>missed the book for this year because it's in April.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on my vision board, and I just think just better,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want to. I just always trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be a better eater, a better person, a better mom,

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<v Speaker 1>like all those things. But I think the only one

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<v Speaker 1>I could put up there would be a marathon, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you?

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<v Speaker 3>I yes, after just yesterday spending time with your cousins,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Chicago might go up on the board today

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<v Speaker 3>for me to pull off running those two marathons at

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<v Speaker 3>about a month apart, Chicago and New York. So that

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<v Speaker 3>might be on my board now. I think I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize it would have been. But I feel great when

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about George January. Just I've gotten into a

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<v Speaker 3>longer routine of cutting back on drinking that I probably

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<v Speaker 3>ever have in years previous, So that is actually great.

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<v Speaker 3>Sabine stays on my vision board. I'm actually trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get her into running. I'm leaving here today and picking

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<v Speaker 3>her up some new running shoes, some new balance, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got some relationship goals. I guess I would

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<v Speaker 3>put up on that board as well. Maybe both the

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<v Speaker 3>visual will be I don't know, a little chapel or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on your co everybody got like really.

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<v Speaker 3>Quiet call in my call you too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's funny. Is Carmen Carmen not a question

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<v Speaker 1>for us? She just said she just wants us to

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<v Speaker 1>get married.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't the time of our commercer.

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<v Speaker 1>B Yeah, and welcome back to the podcast. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>last week I got a text from my mom on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and she sent me a link to a

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<v Speaker 1>story that made my jaw drop And there was some

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<v Speaker 1>connections and that's why she sent it to me. To

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Georgia and running two things that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my alma mater and I obviously we both

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<v Speaker 1>love to run. And this awful story about Laken Hope Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>who was murdered while she was running last week on

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<v Speaker 1>a a in an area that I know all too well.

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<v Speaker 1>At the University of Georgia. She attended UGA through the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of twenty twenty three, and then she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to nursing school at Augusta University College, which the campus

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<v Speaker 1>is there in Athens, but she still was participating in

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<v Speaker 1>Uga activities, so she was there on campus. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard for me to read the story because

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<v Speaker 1>she did everything right. You know, we talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>stories when you're a runner, and you're a woman, especially,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this pit in your stomach when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about someone suffering any kind of harm when they're just

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<v Speaker 1>doing something to improve their life and improve their body,

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<v Speaker 1>feel the freedom of your own fitness, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so just heartrending to hear these types of stories. But

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<v Speaker 1>she did everything right. It was in the morning. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on a trail that was next to the intramural

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<v Speaker 1>fields there at Uga where lots of games and activities

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<v Speaker 1>are going on now. She was on a wooded path,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know those are always a little scary. I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes when I've done it, I think maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is done. But you never think it's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to you. She told her friends where she was going.

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<v Speaker 1>She always wore her Apple Watch, where I had her

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<v Speaker 1>location on her phone. She had her friends who could

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<v Speaker 1>see her location. And then when she didn't come back

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<v Speaker 1>when she normally would have her friend immediately called police.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just look at everything that happened and you

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<v Speaker 1>just feel sick because she did everything right and still

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<v Speaker 1>the unthinkable happened. And you know, it's just a story

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<v Speaker 1>that shook me because it's always a reminder as a runner,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a female runner, what's out there potentially. But

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<v Speaker 1>then this story, as I was following along, just took

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<v Speaker 1>a turn. And these are the stories that are tough

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got a victim, you've got the victim's family,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got real pain and real tragedy. And then some

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<v Speaker 1>stories get politicized, and this is one of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've been reading up on it as well, TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the look the politics of it are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to touch that, but it's there. There have been

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of names, is that some people even remember,

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<v Speaker 3>because maybe Molly Tippets might be the first one that

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind out of Iowa. She was twenty eighteen, maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>But they are not that frequent, but when they happen,

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<v Speaker 3>they get a lot of attention, and they are always reminders,

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<v Speaker 3>and people argue that we're having the wrong conversation and

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<v Speaker 3>we're directing it to the wrong group of folks. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we're directing it to women what they're doing right and

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing wrong. If you want to go outside

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you want to run, at any time a day

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<v Speaker 3>or night, you should be able to be safe in

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. And there's not enough talk and the direction

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<v Speaker 3>of the penalties for what a lot of times stalking

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<v Speaker 3>these women, preying on these women, but oftentimes there are

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<v Speaker 3>just crimes of opportunity. So ha, you do everything right

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<v Speaker 3>and everything still goes wrong. It is a tall It's

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<v Speaker 3>always should be a reminder. But that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>In the debate over this conversation, we've continued.

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<v Speaker 1>To yeh yeah, and the one of the conversations has

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<v Speaker 1>been yes, to put the onus on the woman is unfair.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is when you when you are a

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<v Speaker 1>woman and you are a runner, you do, but people

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<v Speaker 1>like you shouldn't dress a certain way, you should never

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<v Speaker 1>be alone, you shouldn't wear you know, headphones or air

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<v Speaker 1>pods or air buds, all of those things you know

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<v Speaker 1>can can increase your chances of staying safe. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those things that really really shook me

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<v Speaker 1>and I I know, and I just wanted to to

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<v Speaker 1>say something to her family, just just how awful it

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<v Speaker 1>is and how much our hearts are with her and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in that campus, because everyone described her as just

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<v Speaker 1>you know this she was going to be a nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we know nurses are some of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>people on the planet. They are you know, people who

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<v Speaker 1>are there to take care of each other and to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of one another, and so just for this

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<v Speaker 1>to happ into her is just really really really outrageous.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, and I know you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>touch the politics, but I think what bothered me now

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<v Speaker 1>is you've got this real tragedy. And by the way, police,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, caught the man right away. There were cameras

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<v Speaker 1>to the University of George's credit, there are security cameras

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<v Speaker 1>all around campus, and so they were able to identify

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<v Speaker 1>and actually you know, see the person who committed this

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<v Speaker 1>crime and were able to arrest him almost immediately, very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is the man who was arrested is an

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<v Speaker 1>undocumented migrant, and so now in a presidential year where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's pointing the fingers and trying to get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>attention for their causes, this has now become a political firestorm.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've seen these types of things happen where

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<v Speaker 1>you have a you know, a personal tragedy and it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes this political lightning rod. And so it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>tough to watch all the back and forth and the

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<v Speaker 1>finger pointing, and then there's the concern of backlash in

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<v Speaker 1>the Latino community. So I was just reading up on

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<v Speaker 1>this and just just wanted to express my frustration at

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<v Speaker 1>just how certain stories are politicized. And we see it

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<v Speaker 1>happen all the time, but in newsrooms there's always been

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<v Speaker 1>a question as to how to cover it, when to

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<v Speaker 1>cover it, and who to cover, Who's who's speaking the loudest,

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<v Speaker 1>and who has a good point to make. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been it's been a tough situation to read and

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. And the funeral is this week. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a visual today too at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia campus. But just a reminder to everyone out

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<v Speaker 1>there about just checking in with friends and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you do everything you can to protect yourself when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you go out on a run. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think unfortunately the onus is on women. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have been out with you and I've wanted to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone on a run and I'm like, I can't run,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's dark and I'm alone, and so we just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of those things where you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make certain choices as a runner, but it's this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a difficult, difficult story for everyone involved.

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<v Speaker 3>So the honest is on, please mind you. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>anybody I care about that's going out on a run

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<v Speaker 3>on her own that I wouldn't say, make sure you're

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<v Speaker 3>not covering your ears, make sure you dress. Yes, I would,

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely, And I think we all should take responsibility

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<v Speaker 3>for make sure we do all we can to protect ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the debate it's Adidas who's done some great

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<v Speaker 3>work on this. That survey they put out that ninety

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<v Speaker 3>two percent of women in their survey, ninety two percent

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<v Speaker 3>said that they actually do feel unsafe or have taken

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<v Speaker 3>measures to protect themselves. A forty percent said they actually

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<v Speaker 3>have been either verbally or physically harassed out in the run.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing that got me was sixty two percent

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<v Speaker 3>of men acknowledged that, yes, this is a problem for women,

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<v Speaker 3>but then only eighteen percent of the men felt like

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<v Speaker 3>the onus was on the men to help in the costs.

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<v Speaker 3>They put it solely on the women to protect themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was a striking number to hear how much

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<v Speaker 3>men feel we are removed from responsibility in helping and

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<v Speaker 3>making sure that women are safe out there when they're

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<v Speaker 3>running alone. But look up Ridiculous Run if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see that video from Adidas. It's called Ridiculous

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<v Speaker 3>Run and it's short, but it shows women running at

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<v Speaker 3>night and they're running, but there's two cars with their

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<v Speaker 3>headlights on behind them. There's a motorcycle on each side.

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 3>There's somebody riding the horse. They're showing that this is

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<v Speaker 3>how ridiculous it is for a woman to feel safe

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<v Speaker 3>while she's running. Wow, and it is ridiculous. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>just to your point. To that young lady on campus. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't happen a lot, but Sydney Sutherland and Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing happened to her. Eliza Fletcher, the teacher out

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<v Speaker 3>of Memphis in twenty twenty two. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>will remember this happens, but it's just the crimes of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't let you. I mean, I do it stupidly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been criticized over the oh I say criticized,

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<v Speaker 3>but I could run it too in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Three you do I run with you at three o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>when we're only with you at three o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dumb as a guy. You shouldn't. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>got doesn't do like Holy hell. But you also know

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<v Speaker 3>something I always do. I run with one AirPod in.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to always be aware of what's around me

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<v Speaker 3>day or night, who I'm with. I always do that

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<v Speaker 3>tell I do on the subway here in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that what are the things they tell

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.959
<v Speaker 3>women to do? That something? The hair? Are you supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it up right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't be if you have a ponytail, then

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<v Speaker 1>someone can pull and grab and that has happened before.

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.159
<v Speaker 1>So yes, you're supposed to either have a hat on

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<v Speaker 1>and have your hair tucked in so they okay.

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 3>But the clothing is supposed to be tight and not loose. Yep, right, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing for exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy when you're getting dressed as a woman that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to think about those things. But the more

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<v Speaker 1>and more stories and unfortunately you know you say they

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<v Speaker 1>are rare, and they are, of course, but when they

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<v Speaker 1>do happen, it's it's so unnerving because these women aren't

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything wrong. I mean, I think that's the thing

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that just I've never when I'm running, no matter what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in my life, like I'll get emotional about it.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel free, I feel powerful. Even when I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a bad run, I still feel my own strength, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just for there's an emotional and physical connection to running,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a woman to be able sometimes to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and do it on your own feels so empowering.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't run alone that much because these types of

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<v Speaker 1>stories do scare me into not wanting to do that.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Picking the time of day I run, picking where I run.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in New York City, there's so many people around.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really ever feel nervous. I would on the

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<v Speaker 1>West Side Highway, you know, before it turns light outside,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be nervous. And I have run there with

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<v Speaker 1>you and then with some girlfriends. But even with my

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>two girlfriends, I went running like at six am one

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<v Speaker 1>morning before maybe even five point thirty, and it was

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt nervous even with two girlfriends next

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<v Speaker 1>to me. So it is something that we always have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. I'm curious because you said that you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you only run with one AirPod

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to be aware, which is so smart.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And I have done that a couple of times too.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>But when I'm with you, I do feel safe, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel as the onus is on me to

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<v Speaker 1>not do that. But have you ever felt unsafe when

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<v Speaker 1>you're running, you know what? Not?

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<v Speaker 3>I think in other cities. I used to travel around

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<v Speaker 3>a lot for work and have to get up in

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 3>the morning and running at four or five, and there's

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 3>some places you don't want to get stuck in certain cities,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've done that, and I've felt unsafe and even

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<v Speaker 3>stupid for running. Here in the ark, I think, I

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 3>know you know the route so well, and I don't

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>do it as much anymore, but just know the routes

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>and so familiar that I don't usually feel unsafe, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can understand. I can be out sometimes and there's

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<v Speaker 3>just there might be a lone woman that I'm running

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<v Speaker 3>up behind, or she's coming towards me. I will go

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<v Speaker 3>out of my way to adjust myself in a certain

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<v Speaker 3>way to make sure she feels comfortable. I never run up,

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 3>but we might be running in the right lane I

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<v Speaker 3>will distance myself and I'm about to pass her to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure I don't sneak up on her or scare

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<v Speaker 3>her or who knows where that comes from, and why

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 3>if that's considered, if that's necessary. But I think about

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>that all the time when I am out there running

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<v Speaker 3>and there's no way. You told me you were getting

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<v Speaker 3>up at five am, and I'm going to go take

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<v Speaker 3>a run somewhere on the west anywhere in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would say, okay, I see in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>no way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because and I appreciate that my mom, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think she feels good now that I have you

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>as a running buddy, because I've been running since I

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>was in my twenties. But I did I did stupid

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>things when I was younger. And I say stupid just

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that you put yourself in a category where something could happen.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Where I did run on wooded paths by myself. I

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>did it upstate. I did it in Washington, d C.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Along the Potomac, and I loved that feeling of being

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods and being alone and running. But then

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, you start to hear these stories and it's

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's it's too much of a gamble, too much

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of a risk to put yourself in. But I will

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>say it's one. It was one of my favorite things

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to do was to run in the woods like that.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you hear that, and it's you know,

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>we love our horror movies, and so you just start

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to think, you know what, you know, the chances are slim,

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm definitely in increasing my chances of something happening

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>if I do this. So you just change your route

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and change your path. But it's funny when you mentioned

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>traveling for work, I'd be alone, you know, and in

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>smaller cities. I remember the most afraid I ever was

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>was in Nebraska when I was I was running and

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<v Speaker 1>there was no one in sight, and all of a sudden,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>someone's coming towards me. I'm on these train tracks and

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you just think, what am I doing? This isn't worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's another reminder that unfortunately, as women,

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>we have to we have to put ourselves in a

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<v Speaker 1>different category in terms of preparation. I'm curious you always

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<v Speaker 1>run behind me. Is that strategic on your part?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a mind game I'm playing, it really is. It's

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 3>because if you're running behind me. I will end up

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 3>running at my pace, and which is a pace that

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>might be a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick for I will never see you again. You'll become

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<v Speaker 1>a distant dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because just like and I get it. Because when

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>I run, when I'm behind you, you running for five miles.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I could have collapsed five miles ago. You wouldn't know

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 3>it because you don't ever look back.

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I do look back. I do. I do. Sometimes you

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>don't look back.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 3>It's okay. And when I get that, when I have

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<v Speaker 3>at times led us in the runs, I don't look back.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>There have been times and we've gotten lost and separated

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>because you've gone ahead and I can't catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so that is the strategy. That's not a safety strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is everyone always because I ran first,

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>or I was the I was the long distance runner

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>before TJ, so everyone assumes that I'm the faster one

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>or that I'm the stronger one. That is hilarious. You.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see what your pr would be

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't choose to stay back with me.

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<v Speaker 3>We may never know, because I still I appreciate I would.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I would rather have a part in running than a

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 3>pr in running, So that's not that's a non issue,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but seriously, I could have done that plenty of time.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Could have I could have kept going in this last

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>New York City marathon while you were up chucking on

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we can we can talk a little bit about

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that after the break. How about that, right, It's a

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>good tease and welcome back everyone, And I wanted to

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>stay on the running thing because I just want to

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just talk about what an amazing part of life it

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>can be. And no one should be deterred from any

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>headlines that are out there about violence against women running

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a reality, and it's it's a possibility,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>but it shouldn't deter you from from what you love.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And this has been such an integral part of my

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>life and such a big part of who I am

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and and honestly, like even my friends, like my friend

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>group has been has evolved because of running, and that's

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a cool thing to be able to have a shared

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>experience like that. I know you and I definitely grew

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>closer closer because of running.

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<v Speaker 3>M oh, there's no question about that, But yeah, you

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 3>were what's the right word pestering, annoyance.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Pressure, I put a lot of pressure on it.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>That was a nicer word, That was a nicer way

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 3>to put it. But no, no, I was I was run.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 3>You got me into being a runner, not just running

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.239
<v Speaker 3>for exercise. I am a runner now because of you

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and all those training runs. And look, everybody's going through

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>something in life. I was going through something in life.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 3>You were going through something, and running got us both

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 3>both through a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One of the questions that I got from the

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>aforementioned DM was how did you start running? And why

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>do you keep running? How did you? I don't even

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>know the answer to this. How did you or when

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>did you start running?

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Uh? It was just a matter of you, I mean,

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>being around you and seeing you every day. Like you

0:31:55.520 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 3>don't have to necessarily always say that. You don't have

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 3>to come up with the right words to motivate somebody.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Just lead by example and they will end up motivating themselves.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>And I was around you enough to see what you

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>were doing and got curious about it, got curious about

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 3>how I could push myself. And then once you start,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you go out for the first time today anybody,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and all right, I'm gonna run a mile. You time

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 3>yourself running a mile, and then time yourself again tomorrow,

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 3>and then do it the next day, and then do

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<v Speaker 3>it the next day. And what you're gonna find yourself

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>doing is man, I can do better, I can do faster.

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And then what you're gonna find yourself doing next is man,

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<v Speaker 3>I could do two today, and then the next thing is, oh,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm gonna go for three. And the next

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 3>thing you say, well, you know where there's a five

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>k happening locally, I'll enter. And that's how it got

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 3>going for me. It was just keeping up with it

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and timing and challenging, and that's how I fell into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But your first official race was a half marathon.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Uh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty impressive.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, new York City half of the Brook, the.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>New York City half. And then you know, people people

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>always ask me because I think I got into running

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>because my dad was a runner and I always saw

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>him running, and I thought it's free. I didn't have

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, I couldn't join a gym, and

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>so I thought, well, I'm gonna do what he does.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But what I think the biggest intimidation is getting started

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and that first mile, like if you haven't like running

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is not like riding a bicycle. Once you've done it,

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you can just keep doing it. If you stop or

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't stay in a pattern or a habit of it,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it sucks when you start back up again because your

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>body does not have muscle memory. It's like, what is

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this crap that you are putting me through right now?

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So my big thing was to just start with and

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>someone told me this and I loved it. To start

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>with a time, not a mile, so you don't feel like, oh,

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get a mile in or I didn't get

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 1>two miles in. But to say I'm going to run

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>for ten minutes, I'll see how far I get. And

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>then the next day you just add a minute. And

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>if you kind of give yourself that grace of just

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>incrementally increasing the time that you're running, you'll find that

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 1>it gets easier. And it does get easier. That's why

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe running every day for us not only

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>was it great because I felt like I accomplished something,

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>but you just are always feeling like you've got a

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>fitness level where you can take it to the next

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>level if you so choose.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 3>And you maybe think of something now. The timing is

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 3>how I before I started running with you, I would do.

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>There's a particular light post on the corner at the

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>end of Broadway, just past the Wall Street Bull downtown.

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying, as that's specific. I would start

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 3>at that, I literally touch that light post, take off

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 3>running and go past this little spot that's right up

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 3>behind Brookville Place. Mall touch that and come back.

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You touched it.

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I would always physically boom, come to the next one, boom,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 3>touch and turn around and go. And I was timing

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>myself and doing that around fourteen minutes, and I kept

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 3>doing it and getting the time down, down, down, down down.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 3>So to your point about the advice you got about running,

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 3>it didn't have to be about distance. It can be

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>about time. That's how I first started getting into it.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So if that trick will help anybody else run the

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 3>same route of any kind you want to, but time

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.919
<v Speaker 3>yourself doing it, and you'll start to challenge yourself about

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 3>getting the time.

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Downe that's so cute. I didn't know that story. I

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>love that. The other thing that I think it's so

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming is just look your body. Everything in your mind

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>tells you stop. This is awful. But I think the

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>biggest problem I did, I made, and I think most

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>people do, is that we run too fast, like you

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>think you're supposed to be in a race or running

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, at full speed. If you slow it way down,

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it's so much more enjoyable and then you can build

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this speed. But if you're if you're uncomfortable, you should

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>slow down, like I think people think somehow it's it's

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>not good enough or you're not really running. We pass

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>people all the time who are you might say, barely running,

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but you're in my mind, I'm looking at them and

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, good for them. Way to go, oh, way

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to get out there and do it anyway, even if

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>something hurts or you're not you know, speedy Gonzalez, as

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>long as you're just taking one step in front of

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the other. And another thing is it's okay to walk,

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Like how many times in races do we see people

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>walking They still completed the marathon they or the half

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>marathon or whatever race you're in. So like walk up

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the hill, run down the hill, walk for two minutes,

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>run for one minute, but you're still out there getting

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it done. I think a lot of people just feel like, well,

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>if I can't do it this well or I can't

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>feel good, then I'm not doing it at all, and

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>it gets discouraging. So I just want to encourage people.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how far you go, even how long

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you go, if you're walking and running at the same time,

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's about getting out there and improving yourself and then

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>little by little you'll be surprised at how your body responds.

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's a huge thing. Like I

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>never thought. I used to always say there's no way

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I could ever run a marathon ever. And my dad

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>had run three, and he started in his fifties, by

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the way, so it's never too late to say. I

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>want to say that much. He started running marathons in

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>his fifties. My first marathon, I think I was forty five.

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So when I first did, I don't know if I've

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>told the story. My first half marathon, I wouldn't even

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>fully commit to. I said, I'll run half of the

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>half marathon, I'll do a relay with my friend, and

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>so doing that like just giving myself kind of signing

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>up for it and doing it anyway, and then realizing

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I was stronger than I think. Isn't that something that

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're all always looking to do to realize that we're

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>stronger than we think? And I I just wanted to do it.

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Like just seeing so many of the questions you all

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sent were about running. It just got me thinking about

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>just encouraging folks to just get started and just putting

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>one foot in front of the other, and all these

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>little tricks that we play. I mean, whether it's I

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>listened to podcasts, listen to audio books. Music gets old

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>after a while, but just having a friend to talk to.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>We had a talking run the other day.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh one, not of eight hundred runs we've gone on.

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We talked, Yes, how did that run compare?

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I prefer because it makes the time go by. I

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>realize this with I think we've told this Matt James.

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>The first time I ever went for a run and

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 3>had a conversation, he introduced me, like guys going the

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>golf course in golf and have a business meeting, you

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>can do the same thing while you're running. And he

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 3>challenged me to well, he can challenge me. He said, hey, yeah,

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 3>we can catch up while we're running. Five miles, What

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 3>the what? And then I went out there and did it.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's when you realize, oh, hell, I am in

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>better shape than I thought. I am actually in a

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 3>good place. And to you, to your point, you were

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 3>just making the folks. You're always trying to push and

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 3>challenge yourself and see what you are capable of. And

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that's the one thing about it I love. And now

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 3>you talk about habits. You you get into the habit

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of running to the point where going two days without

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 3>a run now feels like just blasphemous.

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It feels awful, right, Yeah, I mean I and I

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>have to say too. We we talked about this, the

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>treadmill thing. That has been tough.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 3>But I have gotten to best God.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Who likes the treadmill? No one likes the treadmill.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I think people mentally stronger than I am. It's a mine.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 3>It's totally a mind thing. Oh heays, like I can

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 3>do the mind. That's not it at all. Obviously, you

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 3>feel it'd be easier. You have a TV in front

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of you, you have all this, you're inside, the climate

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 3>is controlled. You think it'd be an easier get me

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>off this thing. And that was that I didn't We

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't break the streak that day, but that was one

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 3>day that we were supposed to do an eight miler

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 3>and I went downstairs on the treadmill. I got to

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 3>four and said, to hell with this, and later on

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 3>tried to get on the treadmill again to do the

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 3>last four, got to two and said that with this.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it, but I think it's good

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>for people to know that even someone who's run two

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>marathons like yourself, can just say f this after two

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>miles and quit right. I mean, I've had so many

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>bad runs. I've had a lot of good runs, but

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I have had so many bad runs. I have cried

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just bring this back. So I've been struggling

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>with nausea while running, which you've unfortunately been witnessed to, and.

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 3>The law right away from it run in front of

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>you or behind you. I'm getting it some way, but.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anyone else. I've been googling it.

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I would appreciate anyone who has any advice for me.

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>But on the longer runs, I have been getting really,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>really nauseated, and to the point where TJ has seen

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>me have to go off into the bushes. Or find

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a tree, and it happened in the New York City marathon.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So lost I think at least maybe almost as much

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>as ten minutes on our finished time because I was sick.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to edit that piece of this podcast out

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 3>and use it over and over because there's a part

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 3>where there where you said TJ has seen me go

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 3>behind the bushes or behind a tree. I just want

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 3>to use that audio clip or how I had to

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.760
<v Speaker 3>pee in the future for yes, what you were saying,

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>But here's something I think I've discovered it. I can't

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>wait to try it out. I'm going to try it

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the half marathon. I have realized I always

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>thought that I needed coffee in the morning because I'm

0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a big coffee drinker before the run to kind of

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like jump start my metabolism get my body ready to

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 1>go for the run. But I've stopped drinking it before

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a run, and so far I want to knock on wood.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I have seen an improvement and that kind of makes sense.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 1>So I think the biggest challenge when you're doing these

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>long distance ones is figuring out how to fuel, what

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to eat, and for me, how not to get sick.

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 3>When I'm which benefits a lot of us.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and I do feel bad when my when

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm yucking. You're young?

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>How does that apply here?

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're enjoying your run and then I yuck it up.

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>By ah, there we go, by yak.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's fine, yucky young, by yaking.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we haven't run today yet.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, we'll get in. What if we don't? Not gonna

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 3>beat myself up a bout, but I'm gonna. I'm going

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>to try to, but I don't know if I can.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll be busy celebrating Black History Monk, which is wrapping

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 3>up here soon.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And on that.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, happy, No, we should just encourage everyone to enjoy

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the rest of February, this lovely twenty nine day month

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this year around, Yes.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 3>And love to I hate the handle, not a down note,

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 3>but your campus. They're just that whole community down there

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 3>in Athens we talk about and I love the thing here.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll want to say her full name every time, Lincoln

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Hope Riley. I love her name. That got so much attention.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 3>But the day before they're on the university campus, a

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 3>young man, Wyatt Banks freshmen died by suicides and was

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 3>found there in a dorm on campus. So back to

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 3>back days, to have something like that happen. We've been

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 3>on campuses that it really shakes the community to have

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 3>anything traumatic like that happened. To have it back to

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 3>back days, it's just kind of unthinkable. So it's unthinkable.

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 3>So your home campus there sort of your hearts go

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 3>out to.

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Them, sending love to everyone there in Athens and everyone

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>who loved both of those incredible students. And I know,

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's a vigil today for both of them,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>honestly to be honored and by the people who loved

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>them and celebrated they lived. And and you know, the

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>only way these we've covered these types of tragedies, there's

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>there's no easy way. There's there's no you know, it's

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>hard to even say there's a silver lining because it's

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's so tragic. It's it's so awful to have two

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>young people gone by the age of twenty two. It's

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's really unthinkable for their families and friends. But seeing

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>everyone come together and honor how they lived and just

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>remembering to hug one another, to to love one another,

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<v Speaker 1>to be grateful for the time we do have here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a game changer in just how you approach how

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<v Speaker 1>you live each day and the choices you make and

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<v Speaker 1>what you say to people and how you treat people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I hope that there's some hope out

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<v Speaker 1>there about how to live better and how to live differently.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just want to, yeah, send our love and

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<v Speaker 1>our support to the University of Georgia. Go dogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening Themation the patan thecation puts the bats