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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to Amy and TJ. And yes, I'm starting

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Speaker 1: the podcast today. I'm probably not going to do a

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Speaker 1: great job of it because now I've built it up

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Speaker 1: where I'm not a good starter, but I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go for it anyway. All I have to say is

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited it's the last week of February. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's not a good way to look at it, but

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Speaker 1: it's the shortest month of the year. But does it

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Speaker 1: always feel like the longest month of the year?

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Speaker 2: To you?

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Speaker 3: Great job starting, by the way, I felt we should

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Speaker 3: say that should thanks?

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Speaker 1: I need affirmation and validation.

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Speaker 3: I'm Amy, I hate February over to you, TJ.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to sell hope and you know, positivity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, with that picked me up. What was the

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Speaker 3: question again, you say I hate February?

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Speaker 1: Two was well kind of, But what I was basically

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Speaker 1: saying was, does the shortest day of the month feel

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Speaker 1: like the longest the shortest month of the year, sorry,

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Speaker 1: feel like the longest month of the year.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, because Black History Month never feels like a

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Speaker 3: long month to me. It always just flies bah, which

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Speaker 3: I guess was by design, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight days.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we get twenty nine this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sleepier. Yeah, there's an extra person to celebrate in

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Speaker 1: Black History Month? And is that what they do?

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Speaker 3: We get an extra day, leapier black people are leaving

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Speaker 3: with joy? Oh no, please, just another This has been

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Speaker 3: a weird month for a whole bunch of reasons. Right,

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Speaker 3: but in New York especially, it gets cold and everything

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Speaker 3: gets kind of miserable, and you just it's not just cold,

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Speaker 3: it's that cold it makes you not want to step

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Speaker 1: Right, sucks and the sun doesn't shine that much. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: onto something positive. This is something that we just were

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Speaker 1: talking about with Emma and Andrew here with us because

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Speaker 1: we all got excited about this. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: schoolgirl when I know that we get to have more

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Speaker 1: daylight this weekend we switch over. There's cloppying and smiles. Yay,

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Speaker 1: you don't get as excited about it, TJ.

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Speaker 3: When does it happen again this weekend? Saturday weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you go to sleep on Saturday and you

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Speaker 1: spring forward, so you lose an hour of sleep, which

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Speaker 1: I'm fully willing to give back to get that extra

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this week you're telling me I get an

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Speaker 3: extra day for Black History and more sunlight. Yes, this

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Speaker 3: is a money week, is it not?

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Speaker 1: I just made February better, right, No, I'm kidding. So

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Speaker 1: a couple of updates. We I was. Yeah, last last

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Speaker 1: week we were proudly saying that we were on our

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Speaker 1: run streak. Hell us, the dbay inspired us to run

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Speaker 1: every day at least two miles. Wellout, a'll want. Last

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Speaker 1: week just got busy and then once we missed one day,

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Speaker 1: I was like, let's just stick to the hall Higden

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Speaker 1: program and you actually we print it out, we put

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Speaker 1: Do you feel any different not running every day?

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Speaker 3: No, we were just so busy celebrating Black History that

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Speaker 3: we we missed a day of running. Oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: a andy. This is a theme now. This is all

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Speaker 3: I'm about is a Black history. The extra day now

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Speaker 1: We were talking about missing we are. We we ended

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Speaker 3: That was a that was that was legit. There was

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Speaker 3: some you know, life got in the way. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Don't beat yourself up about it. If your dry January,

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Speaker 3: And we gave ourselves a break, It's okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so yeah, this week we've got I think

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Speaker 1: You ready for it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope I can recover in time from all

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Speaker 3: the celebrating I'm doing for the extra day of Black

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Also celebrating that my youngest Annaly's made

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Speaker 1: So that was nice to welcome her back.

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Speaker 3: She was not celebrating Black History Month well in Germany.

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Speaker 1: In Germany, no, she was not. She was not, But

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Speaker 1: she came back very tired, but in one piece, and

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Speaker 1: that's all I ask at this point, and her passport

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Speaker 3: And she came back. I mean, thank goodness she's back

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Speaker 3: in time. Since we have an extra day to celebrate Black.

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Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. Also, you know I mentioned March March seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: March nineteenth.

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Speaker 3: There we go. So it's the same it's the same week, okay,

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Speaker 3: playing games essentially, yes, but yes, that week is a

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Speaker 1: So I last year was my first March with you,

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Speaker 1: got to really fully experience March Madness with you last year,

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Speaker 1: but this year, am I wrong? Like basketball is already

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Speaker 3: Well, it happens when as soon as the college football

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Speaker 3: shift and now everybody's every game matters. Everybody's still trying

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Speaker 1: So that's what was happening yesterday. I was on the

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Speaker 3: Why are you gonna watch me? Watch it? Why don't

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Speaker 1: But I was going to give credit to the first

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Speaker 1: loved I love her handle her Instagram handle lima bean casserole,

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Speaker 1: because castle roles have been a theme with us too,

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Speaker 1: So I just think it was funny that the first person.

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Speaker 3: Has been a theme for you. This is not a

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Speaker 3: But lima bean castle.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of lima beans.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a lima bean?

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Speaker 1: So in terms of TJ's diet, he's a texture person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't have a thing with like

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Speaker 1: Just health, wellness and diet. Like a lot of people

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Speaker 3: I have always been a very good eater since college.

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Speaker 3: So I am pretty much just fish and veggies. That's it.

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Speaker 1: You're annoyingly healthy with your with your food because I

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Speaker 3: You know a baddie. I mean you throw some fried

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Speaker 3: just it's not my work. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know everyone's looking at you like wow, who is

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Speaker 3: But the thing is it is not a matter of

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Speaker 1: just how certain stories are politicized. And we see it

438
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: happen all the time, but in newsrooms there's always been

439
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: a question as to how to cover it, when to

440
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: cover it, and who to cover, Who's who's speaking the loudest,

441
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: and who has a good point to make. But it's

442
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 1: just been it's been a tough situation to read and

443
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: to hear. And the funeral is this week. I know

444
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: that there is a visual today too at the University

445
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: of Georgia campus. But just a reminder to everyone out

446
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: there about just checking in with friends and making sure

447
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,239
Speaker 1: that you do everything you can to protect yourself when

448
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: you when you go out on a run. I do

449
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: think unfortunately the onus is on women. You know, I

450
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: have been out with you and I've wanted to you know,

451
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: we've gone on a run and I'm like, I can't run,

452
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: it's it's dark and I'm alone, and so we just

453
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where you have

454
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Speaker 1: to make certain choices as a runner, but it's this

455
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Speaker 1: is just a difficult, difficult story for everyone involved.

456
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Speaker 3: So the honest is on, please mind you. There's no

457
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Speaker 3: anybody I care about that's going out on a run

458
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Speaker 3: on her own that I wouldn't say, make sure you're

459
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Speaker 3: not covering your ears, make sure you dress. Yes, I would,

460
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: I absolutely, And I think we all should take responsibility

461
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: for make sure we do all we can to protect ourselves.

462
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: I think the debate it's Adidas who's done some great

463
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 3: work on this. That survey they put out that ninety

464
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Speaker 3: two percent of women in their survey, ninety two percent

465
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Speaker 3: said that they actually do feel unsafe or have taken

466
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Speaker 3: measures to protect themselves. A forty percent said they actually

467
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: have been either verbally or physically harassed out in the run.

468
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Speaker 3: But the thing that got me was sixty two percent

469
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Speaker 3: of men acknowledged that, yes, this is a problem for women,

470
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Speaker 3: but then only eighteen percent of the men felt like

471
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Speaker 3: the onus was on the men to help in the costs.

472
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Speaker 3: They put it solely on the women to protect themselves.

473
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Speaker 3: And that was a striking number to hear how much

474
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Speaker 3: men feel we are removed from responsibility in helping and

475
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Speaker 3: making sure that women are safe out there when they're

476
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Speaker 3: running alone. But look up Ridiculous Run if you can.

477
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: Did you see that video from Adidas. It's called Ridiculous

478
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Speaker 3: Run and it's short, but it shows women running at

479
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 3: night and they're running, but there's two cars with their

480
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: headlights on behind them. There's a motorcycle on each side.

481
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: There's somebody riding the horse. They're showing that this is

482
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Speaker 3: how ridiculous it is for a woman to feel safe

483
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Speaker 3: while she's running. Wow, and it is ridiculous. But it's

484
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Speaker 3: just to your point. To that young lady on campus. Again,

485
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Speaker 3: it doesn't happen a lot, but Sydney Sutherland and Arkansas,

486
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: same thing happened to her. Eliza Fletcher, the teacher out

487
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: of Memphis in twenty twenty two. A lot of people

488
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Speaker 3: will remember this happens, but it's just the crimes of opportunity.

489
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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't let you. I mean, I do it stupidly,

490
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Speaker 3: and I've been criticized over the oh I say criticized,

491
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Speaker 3: but I could run it too in the morning.

492
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Speaker 1: Three you do I run with you at three o'clock

493
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Speaker 1: when we're only with you at three o'clock in the morning.

494
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Speaker 3: That's dumb as a guy. You shouldn't. I mean, I

495
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Speaker 3: got doesn't do like Holy hell. But you also know

496
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: something I always do. I run with one AirPod in.

497
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: I want to always be aware of what's around me

498
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: day or night, who I'm with. I always do that

499
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: tell I do on the subway here in New York.

500
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Speaker 3: And I think that what are the things they tell

501
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 3: women to do? That something? The hair? Are you supposed

502
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Speaker 3: to keep it up right?

503
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Speaker 1: So you can't be if you have a ponytail, then

504
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: someone can pull and grab and that has happened before.

505
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: So yes, you're supposed to either have a hat on

506
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Speaker 1: and have your hair tucked in so they okay.

507
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: But the clothing is supposed to be tight and not loose. Yep, right, yep,

508
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: same thing for exactly.

509
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Speaker 1: It's crazy when you're getting dressed as a woman that

510
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: you have to think about those things. But the more

511
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: and more stories and unfortunately you know you say they

512
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Speaker 1: are rare, and they are, of course, but when they

513
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: do happen, it's it's so unnerving because these women aren't

514
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. I mean, I think that's the thing

515
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: that just I've never when I'm running, no matter what's

516
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: going on in my life, like I'll get emotional about it.

517
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I feel free, I feel powerful. Even when I'm having

518
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: a bad run, I still feel my own strength, and

519
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: it's just for there's an emotional and physical connection to running,

520
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: and as a woman to be able sometimes to go

521
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: out and do it on your own feels so empowering.

522
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Speaker 2: You know.

523
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Speaker 1: I don't run alone that much because these types of

524
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: stories do scare me into not wanting to do that.

525
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: Picking the time of day I run, picking where I run.

526
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Speaker 1: Here in New York City, there's so many people around.

527
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Speaker 1: I don't really ever feel nervous. I would on the

528
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Speaker 1: West Side Highway, you know, before it turns light outside,

529
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Speaker 1: I would be nervous. And I have run there with

530
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Speaker 1: you and then with some girlfriends. But even with my

531
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Speaker 1: two girlfriends, I went running like at six am one

532
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Speaker 1: morning before maybe even five point thirty, and it was

533
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Speaker 1: I felt I felt nervous even with two girlfriends next

534
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Speaker 1: to me. So it is something that we always have

535
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Speaker 1: to think about. I'm curious because you said that you

536
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you only run with one AirPod

537
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: because you want to be aware, which is so smart.

538
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: And I have done that a couple of times too.

539
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: But when I'm with you, I do feel safe, so

540
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't feel as the onus is on me to

541
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Speaker 1: not do that. But have you ever felt unsafe when

542
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: you're running, you know what? Not?

543
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Speaker 3: I think in other cities. I used to travel around

544
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Speaker 3: a lot for work and have to get up in

545
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Speaker 3: the morning and running at four or five, and there's

546
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Speaker 3: some places you don't want to get stuck in certain cities,

547
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: and I've done that, and I've felt unsafe and even

548
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: stupid for running. Here in the ark, I think, I

549
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: know you know the route so well, and I don't

550
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: do it as much anymore, but just know the routes

551
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: and so familiar that I don't usually feel unsafe, and

552
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: I can understand. I can be out sometimes and there's

553
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Speaker 3: just there might be a lone woman that I'm running

554
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: up behind, or she's coming towards me. I will go

555
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Speaker 3: out of my way to adjust myself in a certain

556
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Speaker 3: way to make sure she feels comfortable. I never run up,

557
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: but we might be running in the right lane I

558
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: will distance myself and I'm about to pass her to

559
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Speaker 3: make sure I don't sneak up on her or scare

560
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: her or who knows where that comes from, and why

561
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: if that's considered, if that's necessary. But I think about

562
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: that all the time when I am out there running

563
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: and there's no way. You told me you were getting

564
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Speaker 3: up at five am, and I'm going to go take

565
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Speaker 3: a run somewhere on the west anywhere in New York.

566
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Speaker 3: But I would say, okay, I see in a little bit,

567
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: no way.

568
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because and I appreciate that my mom, and

569
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I think she feels good now that I have you

570
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Speaker 1: as a running buddy, because I've been running since I

571
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: was in my twenties. But I did I did stupid

572
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: things when I was younger. And I say stupid just

573
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Speaker 1: that you put yourself in a category where something could happen.

574
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Where I did run on wooded paths by myself. I

575
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: did it upstate. I did it in Washington, d C.

576
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Along the Potomac, and I loved that feeling of being

577
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Speaker 1: in the woods and being alone and running. But then

578
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, you start to hear these stories and it's

579
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Speaker 1: just it's it's too much of a gamble, too much

580
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: of a risk to put yourself in. But I will

581
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: say it's one. It was one of my favorite things

582
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: to do was to run in the woods like that.

583
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: But you know, you hear that, and it's you know,

584
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: we love our horror movies, and so you just start

585
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: to think, you know what, you know, the chances are slim,

586
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely in increasing my chances of something happening

587
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: if I do this. So you just change your route

588
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: and change your path. But it's funny when you mentioned

589
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: traveling for work, I'd be alone, you know, and in

590
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: smaller cities. I remember the most afraid I ever was

591
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: was in Nebraska when I was I was running and

592
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: there was no one in sight, and all of a sudden,

593
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: someone's coming towards me. I'm on these train tracks and

594
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: you just think, what am I doing? This isn't worth it.

595
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: So it's just it's another reminder that unfortunately, as women,

596
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Speaker 1: we have to we have to put ourselves in a

597
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: different category in terms of preparation. I'm curious you always

598
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: run behind me. Is that strategic on your part?

599
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: That's a mind game I'm playing, it really is. It's

600
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: because if you're running behind me. I will end up

601
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Speaker 3: running at my pace, and which is a pace that

602
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: might be a little.

603
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Quick for I will never see you again. You'll become

604
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Speaker 1: a distant dot.

605
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because just like and I get it. Because when

606
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: I run, when I'm behind you, you running for five miles.

607
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: I could have collapsed five miles ago. You wouldn't know

608
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: it because you don't ever look back.

609
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I do look back. I do. I do. Sometimes you

610
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: don't look back.

611
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: It's okay. And when I get that, when I have

612
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: at times led us in the runs, I don't look back.

613
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: There have been times and we've gotten lost and separated

614
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: because you've gone ahead and I can't catch up.

615
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: Yes, so that is the strategy. That's not a safety strategy.

616
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: That's why.

617
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: The funny thing is everyone always because I ran first,

618
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: or I was the I was the long distance runner

619
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: before TJ, so everyone assumes that I'm the faster one

620
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: or that I'm the stronger one. That is hilarious. You.

621
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see what your pr would be

622
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't choose to stay back with me.

623
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Speaker 3: We may never know, because I still I appreciate I would.

624
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: I would rather have a part in running than a

625
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: pr in running, So that's not that's a non issue,

626
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: and that's that's not gonna happen.

627
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: That's very sweet.

628
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: Oh but seriously, I could have done that plenty of time.

629
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Speaker 3: Could have I could have kept going in this last

630
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: New York City marathon while you were up chucking on

631
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: the side of the road.

632
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: Well we can we can talk a little bit about

633
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: that after the break. How about that, right, It's a

634
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: good tease and welcome back everyone, And I wanted to

635
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: stay on the running thing because I just want to

636
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: just talk about what an amazing part of life it

637
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: can be. And no one should be deterred from any

638
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: headlines that are out there about violence against women running

639
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's a reality, and it's it's a possibility,

640
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't deter you from from what you love.

641
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: And this has been such an integral part of my

642
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: life and such a big part of who I am

643
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: and and honestly, like even my friends, like my friend

644
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: group has been has evolved because of running, and that's

645
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: a cool thing to be able to have a shared

646
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: experience like that. I know you and I definitely grew

647
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: closer closer because of running.

648
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: M oh, there's no question about that, But yeah, you

649
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: were what's the right word pestering, annoyance.

650
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Pressure, I put a lot of pressure on it.

651
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: That was a nicer word, That was a nicer way

652
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: to put it. But no, no, I was I was run.

653
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Speaker 3: You got me into being a runner, not just running

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Speaker 3: for exercise. I am a runner now because of you

655
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Speaker 3: and all those training runs. And look, everybody's going through

656
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Speaker 3: something in life. I was going through something in life.

657
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Speaker 3: You were going through something, and running got us both

658
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Speaker 3: both through a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the questions that I got from the

660
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Speaker 1: aforementioned DM was how did you start running? And why

661
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Speaker 1: do you keep running? How did you? I don't even

662
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Speaker 1: know the answer to this. How did you or when

663
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Speaker 1: did you start running?

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Speaker 3: Uh? It was just a matter of you, I mean,

665
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: being around you and seeing you every day. Like you

666
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Speaker 3: don't have to necessarily always say that. You don't have

667
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Speaker 3: to come up with the right words to motivate somebody.

668
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Speaker 3: Just lead by example and they will end up motivating themselves.

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Speaker 3: And I was around you enough to see what you

670
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Speaker 3: were doing and got curious about it, got curious about

671
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Speaker 3: how I could push myself. And then once you start,

672
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Speaker 3: you know, you go out for the first time today anybody,

673
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Speaker 3: and all right, I'm gonna run a mile. You time

674
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Speaker 3: yourself running a mile, and then time yourself again tomorrow,

675
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Speaker 3: and then do it the next day, and then do

676
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Speaker 3: it the next day. And what you're gonna find yourself

677
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Speaker 3: doing is man, I can do better, I can do faster.

678
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Speaker 3: And then what you're gonna find yourself doing next is man,

679
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: I could do two today, and then the next thing is, oh,

680
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna go for three. And the next

681
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Speaker 3: thing you say, well, you know where there's a five

682
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Speaker 3: k happening locally, I'll enter. And that's how it got

683
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Speaker 3: going for me. It was just keeping up with it

684
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Speaker 3: and timing and challenging, and that's how I fell into it.

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Speaker 1: But your first official race was a half marathon.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Uh yeah, oh yeah.

687
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty impressive.

688
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, new York City half of the Brook, the.

689
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Speaker 1: New York City half. And then you know, people people

690
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Speaker 1: always ask me because I think I got into running

691
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Speaker 1: because my dad was a runner and I always saw

692
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Speaker 1: him running, and I thought it's free. I didn't have

693
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, I couldn't join a gym, and

694
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Speaker 1: so I thought, well, I'm gonna do what he does.

695
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Speaker 1: But what I think the biggest intimidation is getting started

696
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Speaker 1: and that first mile, like if you haven't like running

697
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Speaker 1: is not like riding a bicycle. Once you've done it,

698
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Speaker 1: you can just keep doing it. If you stop or

699
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Speaker 1: you don't stay in a pattern or a habit of it,

700
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Speaker 1: it sucks when you start back up again because your

701
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: body does not have muscle memory. It's like, what is

702
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Speaker 1: this crap that you are putting me through right now?

703
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Speaker 1: So my big thing was to just start with and

704
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Speaker 1: someone told me this and I loved it. To start

705
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Speaker 1: with a time, not a mile, so you don't feel like, oh,

706
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Speaker 1: I didn't get a mile in or I didn't get

707
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Speaker 1: two miles in. But to say I'm going to run

708
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Speaker 1: for ten minutes, I'll see how far I get. And

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Speaker 1: then the next day you just add a minute. And

710
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Speaker 1: if you kind of give yourself that grace of just

711
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: incrementally increasing the time that you're running, you'll find that

712
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: it gets easier. And it does get easier. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think maybe running every day for us not only

714
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Speaker 1: was it great because I felt like I accomplished something,

715
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Speaker 1: but you just are always feeling like you've got a

716
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Speaker 1: fitness level where you can take it to the next

717
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Speaker 1: level if you so choose.

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Speaker 3: And you maybe think of something now. The timing is

719
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Speaker 3: how I before I started running with you, I would do.

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Speaker 3: There's a particular light post on the corner at the

721
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Speaker 3: end of Broadway, just past the Wall Street Bull downtown.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, as that's specific. I would start

723
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Speaker 3: at that, I literally touch that light post, take off

724
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Speaker 3: running and go past this little spot that's right up

725
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Speaker 3: behind Brookville Place. Mall touch that and come back.

726
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Speaker 1: You touched it.

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Speaker 3: I would always physically boom, come to the next one, boom,

728
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Speaker 3: touch and turn around and go. And I was timing

729
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Speaker 3: myself and doing that around fourteen minutes, and I kept

730
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Speaker 3: doing it and getting the time down, down, down, down down.

731
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Speaker 3: So to your point about the advice you got about running,

732
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Speaker 3: it didn't have to be about distance. It can be

733
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Speaker 3: about time. That's how I first started getting into it.

734
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Speaker 3: So if that trick will help anybody else run the

735
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Speaker 3: same route of any kind you want to, but time

736
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Speaker 3: yourself doing it, and you'll start to challenge yourself about

737
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Speaker 3: getting the time.

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Speaker 1: Downe that's so cute. I didn't know that story. I

739
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: love that. The other thing that I think it's so

740
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: overwhelming is just look your body. Everything in your mind

741
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: tells you stop. This is awful. But I think the

742
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: biggest problem I did, I made, and I think most

743
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: people do, is that we run too fast, like you

744
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to be in a race or running

745
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, at full speed. If you slow it way down,

746
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: it's so much more enjoyable and then you can build

747
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Speaker 1: this speed. But if you're if you're uncomfortable, you should

748
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: slow down, like I think people think somehow it's it's

749
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: not good enough or you're not really running. We pass

750
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Speaker 1: people all the time who are you might say, barely running,

751
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: but you're in my mind, I'm looking at them and

752
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, good for them. Way to go, oh, way

753
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Speaker 1: to get out there and do it anyway, even if

754
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: something hurts or you're not you know, speedy Gonzalez, as

755
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: long as you're just taking one step in front of

756
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Speaker 1: the other. And another thing is it's okay to walk,

757
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Like how many times in races do we see people

758
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: walking They still completed the marathon they or the half

759
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: marathon or whatever race you're in. So like walk up

760
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: the hill, run down the hill, walk for two minutes,

761
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: run for one minute, but you're still out there getting

762
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Speaker 1: it done. I think a lot of people just feel like, well,

763
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: if I can't do it this well or I can't

764
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: feel good, then I'm not doing it at all, and

765
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: it gets discouraging. So I just want to encourage people.

766
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how far you go, even how long

767
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: you go, if you're walking and running at the same time,

768
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: it's about getting out there and improving yourself and then

769
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: little by little you'll be surprised at how your body responds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a huge thing. Like I

771
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: never thought. I used to always say there's no way

772
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: I could ever run a marathon ever. And my dad

773
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: had run three, and he started in his fifties, by

774
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: the way, so it's never too late to say. I

775
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: want to say that much. He started running marathons in

776
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Speaker 1: his fifties. My first marathon, I think I was forty five.

777
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: So when I first did, I don't know if I've

778
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: told the story. My first half marathon, I wouldn't even

779
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Speaker 1: fully commit to. I said, I'll run half of the

780
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Speaker 1: half marathon, I'll do a relay with my friend, and

781
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: so doing that like just giving myself kind of signing

782
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: up for it and doing it anyway, and then realizing

783
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I was stronger than I think. Isn't that something that

784
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: we're all always looking to do to realize that we're

785
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: stronger than we think? And I I just wanted to do it.

786
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: Like just seeing so many of the questions you all

787
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: sent were about running. It just got me thinking about

788
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: just encouraging folks to just get started and just putting

789
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: one foot in front of the other, and all these

790
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: little tricks that we play. I mean, whether it's I

791
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: listened to podcasts, listen to audio books. Music gets old

792
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: after a while, but just having a friend to talk to.

793
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: We had a talking run the other day.

794
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Uh one, not of eight hundred runs we've gone on.

795
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: We talked, Yes, how did that run compare?

796
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: I prefer because it makes the time go by. I

797
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: realize this with I think we've told this Matt James.

798
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: The first time I ever went for a run and

799
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: had a conversation, he introduced me, like guys going the

800
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: golf course in golf and have a business meeting, you

801
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: can do the same thing while you're running. And he

802
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: challenged me to well, he can challenge me. He said, hey, yeah,

803
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: we can catch up while we're running. Five miles, What

804
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: the what? And then I went out there and did it.

805
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: And that's when you realize, oh, hell, I am in

806
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: better shape than I thought. I am actually in a

807
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: good place. And to you, to your point, you were

808
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: just making the folks. You're always trying to push and

809
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: challenge yourself and see what you are capable of. And

810
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: that's the one thing about it I love. And now

811
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: you talk about habits. You you get into the habit

812
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: of running to the point where going two days without

813
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: a run now feels like just blasphemous.

814
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: It feels awful, right, Yeah, I mean I and I

815
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: have to say too. We we talked about this, the

816
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: treadmill thing. That has been tough.

817
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: But I have gotten to best God.

818
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Who likes the treadmill? No one likes the treadmill.

819
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Speaker 3: I think people mentally stronger than I am. It's a mine.

820
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: It's totally a mind thing. Oh heays, like I can

821
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: do the mind. That's not it at all. Obviously, you

822
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: feel it'd be easier. You have a TV in front

823
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: of you, you have all this, you're inside, the climate

824
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: is controlled. You think it'd be an easier get me

825
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: off this thing. And that was that I didn't We

826
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: didn't break the streak that day, but that was one

827
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Speaker 3: day that we were supposed to do an eight miler

828
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Speaker 3: and I went downstairs on the treadmill. I got to

829
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Speaker 3: four and said, to hell with this, and later on

830
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Speaker 3: tried to get on the treadmill again to do the

831
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Speaker 3: last four, got to two and said that with this.

832
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it, but I think it's good

833
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: for people to know that even someone who's run two

834
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Speaker 1: marathons like yourself, can just say f this after two

835
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Speaker 1: miles and quit right. I mean, I've had so many

836
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Speaker 1: bad runs. I've had a lot of good runs, but

837
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Speaker 1: I have had so many bad runs. I have cried

838
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: and I'll just bring this back. So I've been struggling

839
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: with nausea while running, which you've unfortunately been witnessed to, and.

840
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Speaker 3: The law right away from it run in front of

841
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: you or behind you. I'm getting it some way, but.

842
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else. I've been googling it.

843
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: I would appreciate anyone who has any advice for me.

844
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: But on the longer runs, I have been getting really,

845
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: really nauseated, and to the point where TJ has seen

846
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: me have to go off into the bushes. Or find

847
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: a tree, and it happened in the New York City marathon.

848
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: So lost I think at least maybe almost as much

849
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: as ten minutes on our finished time because I was sick.

850
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Speaker 3: I'm going to edit that piece of this podcast out

851
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: and use it over and over because there's a part

852
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: where there where you said TJ has seen me go

853
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: behind the bushes or behind a tree. I just want

854
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: to use that audio clip or how I had to

855
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: pee in the future for yes, what you were saying,

856
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But here's something I think I've discovered it. I can't

858
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Speaker 1: wait to try it out. I'm going to try it

859
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: out of the half marathon. I have realized I always

860
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: thought that I needed coffee in the morning because I'm

861
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Speaker 1: a big coffee drinker before the run to kind of

862
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: like jump start my metabolism get my body ready to

863
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: go for the run. But I've stopped drinking it before

864
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: a run, and so far I want to knock on wood.

865
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Speaker 1: I have seen an improvement and that kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So I think the biggest challenge when you're doing these

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Speaker 1: long distance ones is figuring out how to fuel, what

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Speaker 1: to eat, and for me, how not to get sick.

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Speaker 3: When I'm which benefits a lot of us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I do feel bad when my when

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Speaker 1: I'm yucking. You're young?

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Speaker 3: How does that apply here?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're enjoying your run and then I yuck it up.

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Speaker 1: By ah, there we go, by yak.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's fine, yucky young, by yaking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we haven't run today yet.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we'll get in. What if we don't? Not gonna

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Speaker 3: beat myself up a bout, but I'm gonna. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to try to, but I don't know if I can.

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Speaker 3: I'll be busy celebrating Black History Monk, which is wrapping

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Speaker 3: up here soon.

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Speaker 2: And on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy, No, we should just encourage everyone to enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of February, this lovely twenty nine day month

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Speaker 1: this year around, Yes.

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Speaker 3: And love to I hate the handle, not a down note,

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Speaker 3: but your campus. They're just that whole community down there

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Speaker 3: in Athens we talk about and I love the thing here.

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Speaker 3: I'll want to say her full name every time, Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Hope Riley. I love her name. That got so much attention.

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Speaker 3: But the day before they're on the university campus, a

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Speaker 3: young man, Wyatt Banks freshmen died by suicides and was

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Speaker 3: found there in a dorm on campus. So back to

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Speaker 3: back days, to have something like that happen. We've been

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Speaker 3: on campuses that it really shakes the community to have

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Speaker 3: anything traumatic like that happened. To have it back to

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Speaker 3: back days, it's just kind of unthinkable. So it's unthinkable.

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Speaker 3: So your home campus there sort of your hearts go

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Speaker 3: out to.

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Speaker 1: Them, sending love to everyone there in Athens and everyone

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Speaker 1: who loved both of those incredible students. And I know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, there's a vigil today for both of them,

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Speaker 1: honestly to be honored and by the people who loved

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Speaker 1: them and celebrated they lived. And and you know, the

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Speaker 1: only way these we've covered these types of tragedies, there's

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Speaker 1: there's no easy way. There's there's no you know, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to even say there's a silver lining because it's

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Speaker 1: it's so tragic. It's it's so awful to have two

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Speaker 1: young people gone by the age of twenty two. It's

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Speaker 1: it's really unthinkable for their families and friends. But seeing

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Speaker 1: everyone come together and honor how they lived and just

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Speaker 1: remembering to hug one another, to to love one another,

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Speaker 1: to be grateful for the time we do have here,

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Speaker 1: it's a game changer in just how you approach how

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Speaker 1: you live each day and the choices you make and

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Speaker 1: what you say to people and how you treat people.

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Speaker 1: So I just I hope that there's some hope out

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Speaker 1: there about how to live better and how to live differently.

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Speaker 1: But we just want to, yeah, send our love and

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Speaker 1: our support to the University of Georgia. Go dogs, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening Themation the patan thecation puts the bats