1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Golf up under center turns gives I'm and rop flips 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: it out to Gibs. He's did the house baby touchdown 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: All that is. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Beautiful golf, hands it time and Roth, I'm and rop 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: flips it to. 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: Gifts and the Lions have got the lead back. 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: It is week four of the NFL season. I am 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Tim twenty minute. This is the twenty the Huddle podcast, 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: and most of you will know who is sitting next 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: to me. Dave Briquet does a great job covering the 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Lions beat for the Free Press Day. 13 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. Yea, absolutely appreciate. I always happy 14 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: to do this. 15 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always get you on once a year. It's 16 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: always one of my favorite ones. You've been doing this 17 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: a long long time. Are pretty entrenched here with the Lions. 18 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: So Dave, let's look back before we look forward a 19 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: little bit. You look at Monday night's game in all 20 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: three phases? Was that one of the more impressive games 21 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: that you've seen this Lion's playing your time on the beat. 22 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 23 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean I've been at the Free Press since twenty 24 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: ten and I can't think of many more better regular 25 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: season wins. Obviously, you know the the Rams the playoff 26 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: game that was a special atmosphere beat in Tampa. To 27 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: go to the NFC Championship game was amazing, but you know, 28 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: and look, it's early still, right, who knows what it 29 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: means at the end of the day. But to go 30 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: on the road against a team that I think is 31 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl contender to win the way that they did, 32 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: I thought it was as good a win at least 33 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: that we've seen under Dan Campbell in the regular season. 34 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Especially when you look at just everybody's predictions and everything 35 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: ahead of that game. I think, you know how they 36 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: always put the Monday night Yeah, guys on there, you 37 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: know it, and it was every single one had a 38 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: raven under it, like no one gave this team a shot. 39 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: And to go on the road and play the way 40 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: that they did, it was really really impressive, you. 41 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Know, I think because the first game went so I mean, 42 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: it just was nothing like we expected the Lions to 43 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: look even if you thought the Packers would win, just 44 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: the communication issues and the errors that they had that game. 45 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: To get all that cleaned up and really, you know, 46 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: one week, I mean one road playoff or one playoff game, 47 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: one road game, I'm sorry, one road game to get 48 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: all those issues fixed. I mean it was you got 49 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: to give credit to the coaches, give credit to the 50 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: players for make that happened. 51 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty four rushing yards, zero sacks allowed. 52 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Any concerns that might have been there with the offensive line, 53 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: are are they now less for you moving forward? 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: No doubt. 55 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: I mean you know that that week one, I think 56 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Taylor Decker said it after the game that that was 57 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: really a situation where guys weren't getting their butts kicked. 58 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: It was just communication issues, running the wrong play, And 59 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: he said, hey, don't don't panic. 60 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: This is all going to get fixed. 61 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: And it did. And look, I'm sure they're going to 62 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: have you know, there's gonna be some hiccups going forward. 63 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Right it's still two first year starters at guard. You know, 64 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: Nomine and Bouquet was out. Last game was out, last. 65 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: Game Sonoi was out. 66 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know there's I mean, the Browns will 67 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: have a better interior defensive line this week. They will 68 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: be tested going forward. But for for one game to 69 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: do it down the road against a really good team, 70 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: a team that dominated them in the trenches a couple 71 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: of years ago, I thought it was a big step 72 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: forward for Tate Ratledge and for Christian Mahogany. 73 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sewell with a ninety nine. Folks say, I 74 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: think it was the highest grade they said they've ever 75 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: given out in a game in the PFF era, which 76 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: I think goes back to what two thousand and six, 77 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: and then Ratledge with a ninety plus. You just mentioned 78 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: it right there. That was a game I think that 79 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: young man needed on the road against that kind of 80 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: team to dominate the way he did, especially in the 81 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: run game. I thought that's got to be such a 82 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: huge confidence boost for him move. 83 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: You know, he I think that that first game, you know, 84 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: and Taylor even said it again, right that the one 85 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: play that stood out to everyone where he's going one 86 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: way and the rest of the offensive line is sort 87 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: of gone the other and and it almost led to 88 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: a safety on David Montgomery. And I know it wasn't 89 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: his fault, Taylor said, you know, both he and Tate 90 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: were running one play. The other three linemen we're running another. 91 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: But you know he. 92 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: Heard that, right, you know, people said that was his fault. 93 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: And to come out and play the way he did 94 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: really to help key that rushing attack. David Montgomery was huge. 95 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: That's another guy that maybe he didn't need that because 96 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: he's a VET and everybody knows what he can do. 97 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: But you know, he's been the externally the forgotten man 98 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: with Jami or Gibbs there a little bit, and so 99 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: for him to dominate the way he did, I thought 100 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: that was pretty big too. 101 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Sonic and Knuckles are back right in a big way. 102 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: You know. 103 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: One other thing a lot of people talked about too 104 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: was the pass rush. Right and after the Week one, 105 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: you only had two quarterback hits, no sacks, You didn't 106 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: have a pass rush. It looked better against the Bears, 107 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: and then boy Dave seven sacks against Lamar. I think 108 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: that was the most that Ravens organization has given up. 109 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's an organization that plays a brand of football 110 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: very similar to Droit Physical, prides itself on its offensive 111 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: line play running the football. Couldn't do that either. That 112 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: pass rush looked terrific. Eleven sacks in three games. I 113 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: think only the twenty ten, nineteen ninety seven, and nineteen 114 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: eighty three teams had eleven sacks through three games, So 115 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: they're in kind of historic area here now. Obviously, when 116 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: you get seven in a game, you know, those numbers 117 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: are gonna feel good, But like we talked about with 118 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line, you feel a little bit better about 119 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: the pass rush too, or is that still I've got 120 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: to kind of continue to see it type down. 121 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 122 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: I think you know, coming into the season, I think 123 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: most people had three concerns, right it was the new 124 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: coordinators and what's the play calling going to look like 125 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: that that that interior of the offensive line, and how 126 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: good they were going to be in the pass rush. 127 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: And of those three, the pass rush is still the 128 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: one to me that maybe I'm not quite certain. It's 129 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: it's exactly what it needs to be for this team 130 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: to make a long playoff run. You know, Aiden Hutchinson 131 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: is going to be there. I still want to see 132 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: what that second edge rusher is going to be like 133 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: when Davenport comes back in a couple of months. You know, 134 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: if el Kadin Muhammad can can hold it down till then, 135 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: if they make a move, I still don't know that 136 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: they have enough. But for right now, and certainly in 137 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: a game like that, when you're playing with the lead 138 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: and you're playing a really good quarterback like Lamar, you 139 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: know they have impacted the passer. 140 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: You are you looking at my list here? Next, I 141 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: had coordinators here, let's talk about that. And obviously, you know, 142 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: like again there were some concerns like you had talked 143 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: about before. They didn't get any quieter after week one. 144 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: But boy, I mean that offense nine hundred yards and 145 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: ninety points stave in two weeks. The defense to have 146 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: have that scheme and execute it the way they did 147 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: against Lamar and Derrick Henry. Yeah, they've looked, They've looked 148 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: really good the last two weeks. Those coordinators and I 149 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: think their players have really kind of bought in to 150 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: kind of what they're all about. And look, it starts 151 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: with Dan Campbell. The coordinators take their cues from him. 152 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: But it just seems from the head coach of the 153 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: coordinators to the players, to me, it seems pretty seamless, 154 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: more steamless than I thought it would be early in 155 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: the year. 156 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned Dan, I mean, obviously it's his 157 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: vision that they bring to life. And just like Ben 158 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: Johnson did on offense and Aaron Glenn did before, you know, 159 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: you're seeing it with John Morton and Kelvin Shepard. Now 160 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: that that this is it's gonna look a lot the 161 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: same some of the trick plays, some of the aggressiveness 162 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: because you know, it's it's Dan's vision. You know, I 163 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: will say this like I think John was a guy. 164 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: The headline in our story, you know, we don't write 165 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: the headlines on freak dot com all the time. The 166 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: headline in my story immediately after the game was like 167 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: who needs Ben Johnson? Or what forget Ben Johnson? Or 168 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: something to that effect. And I think that that spoke 169 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: to what fans were thinking, like the first couple weeks 170 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: of the season, really going back into training camp, like, man, 171 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna miss Ben Johnson, what's this offense gonna look like? 172 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: And I think John Morton showed that, you know, he's 173 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: got a little trickery up his sleeve too, and he 174 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: can call a game against a pretty good defense and 175 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, same thing with the offensive line in the 176 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: pass rush, like they'll probably be a hiccup or two 177 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: going forward. But I thought both, you know, John Morton 178 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: and Kelvin Shepard called really good games. And give shep 179 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: credit because there there have not been a lot of 180 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: teams that have made that Ravens offense look like that 181 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: highest scoring offense in the NFL. And I know they 182 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: scored thirty, but one was a late touchdown and the 183 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: Lions got that goal line stand. Really good effort by 184 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 3: that defense. 185 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: And Dave, I don't think Dan gets enough credit for 186 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the offensive mind that he is. You know, we're giving 187 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: all the credit to John Morton, and look, he deserves 188 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: a ton too, but Dan is a very underrated offensive 189 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: mind and he is very much on the head and 190 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: very much in that offensive room with the game planning 191 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: week to week. I don't think he gets enough credit 192 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: for the offensive mind that he has as well. 193 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: There's no doubt. And look, the lines were blessed, right. 194 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Ben Johnson is an excellent offensive coordinator, There's 195 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: no doubt about that. But that was always sort of 196 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: a you know, when that offense started to turn around 197 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: a little bit that first year twenty twenty one, it 198 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: was Dan Collin plays, yeah, And I thought it took 199 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of Dan because he did a good 200 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: job to sort of, you know, give up those duties. 201 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: And he trusted Ben. And when he went out and 202 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: hired John Morton this offseason, he trusted John. John was 203 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: a guy who was here before, who he's known for 204 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: a long time, and so Dan is setting the tone. 205 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: He's the one who has the vision, but you know 206 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: those guys are extensions of him on the headset that 207 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: make it come to life. 208 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's move forward to Sunday. It's almost a 209 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: tail of two teams. 210 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: With Cleveland. 211 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: You look at their offense, and boy, they struggle. Joe 212 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Flacco a forty year old quarterback. They don't have a 213 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: ton of explosive plays. I think they've got six pass 214 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: plays of twenty plus yards, no ony plus yard touchdowns 215 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: this year, A big contrast to Detroit's offense. But defensively, Dave, 216 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: they're number one in total defense, their number one against 217 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the run fifty seven point three yards per game in 218 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: three weeks, and one of those was the Ravens, and 219 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: I think they're number four against the pass. Detroit's offense 220 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: has their hands full this weekend. 221 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: Don't think well, you know, look, I was certainly one 222 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: when I looked at the schedule where early on I 223 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 3: chalked this up as like a week the Lions are 224 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: going to win, you know, thirty one to fourteen, something 225 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: like that, And then I watched that game against the 226 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: Packers last week and what the Browns did to an 227 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: offense that we saw up close that was really good. 228 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: And Jordan Love look looked pretty darn good that first game. 229 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: And I know Green Bay didn't have red and who knows, 230 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: Kraft maybe was dealing with something like Zach Tom got hurt. 231 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: There were some maybe some some extenuating circumstances there. But 232 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: I thought the job that they did against the Packers, 233 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: it just really opened my eyes. Like you think of 234 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: that defense, and you know Miles Garrett's there right, you know, 235 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: they got some good players on the back end. I 236 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: think Mason Graham's playing good. 237 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Football was a great addition for them in the middle. 238 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: And when you have that front that's really good against 239 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: the run and has an elite edge rusher, I mean 240 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: we see it with the Lions right here, that's right. 241 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean that that to me is a good comparison. 242 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: When you put a Leam and Hutch next to each other, 243 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: just like when you put Mason Graham and Miles Garrett 244 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: next to each other and you have that inside outside 245 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: combo where they can play games and they can you know, 246 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't have a place to step up because 247 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: of Mason. Same with a Leam. I mean, it only 248 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: benefits Hutch. It benefits Miles. Miles the one to seven 249 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: players in the league with a sack every game this year. 250 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna get his He's gonna play a 251 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: majority over Tailor. They move him around a little bit, 252 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: but most of the time it's gonna be over Taylor. 253 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: That to me is the key matchup for this week. 254 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: It's I mean philosophically, like maybe not exactly what they do, 255 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: but just in terms of building that roster. In that line, 256 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: it's a lot like what they did here, right, elite 257 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: edge rusher. You try to get some beef in the middle, 258 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's it make it tough to run on 259 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: and then you can get after the quarterback. So I 260 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: think that that decor. You know, I want to see 261 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Graham against that interier offensive line though, too, because again 262 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: we talked about the guards the young that the Lions have. 263 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: Even though Graham's a rookie too, like this is going 264 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: to be a really big He's. 265 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: A little bit different in terms of he's got some 266 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: pass rush ability. You know, he's a big, stout guy. 267 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: You saw him at Michigan, but I think there's some 268 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: suddenness there and some twitch and his ability to get 269 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: in the backfield, play on the other sideline of scrimmage. 270 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I think is a great point by you that those 271 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: guys inside are going to be tested again Terry and Arnold, 272 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: any concern there at all? I know Dan talked this 273 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: week and he was asked about Terry Arnold. I think 274 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: it was ninety seven point one. He does his radio thing, 275 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: and you know, he brought up, you know, the possibility 276 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: of a Meek maybe playing here or there. We saw 277 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: what a Meek did Week eighteen last year against Justin Jefferson. 278 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: We know he can go outside and play. Where's your 279 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: concern level with there? 280 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: Is it? Still? He's a young. 281 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Player, David's only week four. Do we got to give 282 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: him some time or is there a little bit of 283 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: concern there? 284 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 285 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: I mean you do have to give him some time, right, 286 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean he's played you know, twenty games in his 287 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: career or whatever it is at this point, so he's 288 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: nowhere close to being a finished product. And what he 289 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: is right now was not with he's going to be 290 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: in week twelve. But you know, this is a championship 291 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: caliber team and you don't want to risk anything. You 292 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: don't want to lose a game. You shouldn't because something 293 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: happens in the back end. I don't know that terry 294 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: On is a high concern because you know, DJ Reid's 295 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: playing good football. They've got playmakers at every level. But 296 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: you know, same thing with as we talked about the 297 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: pass rush earlier, the interior of the offensive line. Terryan 298 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: is definitely someone that you know, my eyes are on 299 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: and you know he's there's a player to a game 300 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: where you're like, ah, man, that's a that's a pretty 301 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: big coverage buster. That's a penalty they didn't need to take. 302 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: And when you play good teams, a lot of times 303 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: those things cost you. So I do think they need 304 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: to get that fixed. And maybe the way to do 305 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: it is sort of what Dan alluded to. We'll we'll 306 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: see how it plays out. But you know, if maybe 307 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: they they give a Meek a few more outside cornerback 308 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: reps and they they sort of limit what terry On 309 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: is doing. Still use them, but maybe not use them 310 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the snaps. Maybe that helps him 311 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: find it. He's a confident guy. He's not gonna lose 312 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: his confident, but maybe that helps him find his footing 313 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: and what he needs to be and It should be. 314 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Stated too that that you know, Terryan was on the 315 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: field when those seven sacks happened, and right there was 316 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: good coverage and you know there's some a lot of 317 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: good there too, but like you mentioned, some of the 318 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: bad just kind of sticks out a little bit. You 319 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: don't want it to cost them. Quinch on Judkins, what 320 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: does he add to that? To that Cleveland offense they 321 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: were obviously couldn't do much, you know, week one, I 322 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: think he's got one hundred and fifty five yards five 323 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: point five average a touchdown. In the two weeks. It 324 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: looks like he gives them a little bit of juice. 325 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I talked to Tony Grosey long time, 326 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: you know, Cleveland radio personality writer over there. He called me, 327 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, kind of a lot of times, you know 328 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: how it is. There's there's writers in other cities that 329 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: you sort of catch. 330 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: Up to about the team. 331 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: And he was asking me about the Lions, And before 332 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: we got off the phone, I said, what about Judkins? 333 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Like is he and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, They're 334 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: going to give. 335 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: Him more and more as this thing goes on, Like 336 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: he is he's the guy that the Browns will will 337 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: lean on and it looks like I mean when he 338 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: came back from missing those first couple of games, our 339 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: first game at least he started right away. And I 340 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: know he didn't play a full compliment of snaps that 341 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: first game back, but you can tell they have high 342 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: hopes for him. So I do think you mentioned it earlier. 343 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: This is not an explosive offense. They've got two decent 344 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: tight ends, so maybe some guys that can get open 345 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: in the short area, but if you can run the 346 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: ball with Quinn shot Jenkins, and especially with that defense, philosophically, 347 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: you got to think that's what they want to do 348 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: to have a chance to beat a high scoring offense 349 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: like the Lions. 350 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: All Right, what's Dave Brichett's key matchup for the Lions 351 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: getting a big win at home moving to three and 352 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: one on the season. 353 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, we talked about the interior the Lions offensive line 354 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: against Mason Graham earlier. That'd be the one that I'm 355 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: watching on the offense because you know that that interior 356 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: pressure can really impact this offense. I think the Lions 357 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: will be okay, but I want to see those young 358 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: guards go against Cleveland's interior of the of the offensive line, 359 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: and then you know, defensively, like you know, I just 360 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: want to say, like Aiden Hutchinson because he's only had 361 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: you know, he had one sack and it kind of 362 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: came late in the game. Maybe he gets overlooked and 363 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't know that it's a key, key matchup that 364 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: will ultimately just the game. But you see him make 365 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: plays in draw double teams and everything that he does. 366 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: If that can help the rest of the Lions pass rush. 367 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: Playing at home in allowed Ford Field, I think this 368 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: Cleveland offense is gonna have a tough time getting started. 369 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Something tells me Aiden will hear all the miles Geared 370 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Sweet too. He's the best rusher in the league. How 371 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: are the Lions gonna stop him? I'm sure Aidan will 372 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: hear that and probably have something in store for Sunday 373 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: as well. 374 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: Dave. 375 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: It should be a fun one lines try to get 376 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: to three and one. I always love the ruckus environment 377 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: of ford Field football. Sunday at Ford Field. You'll be there, 378 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: I'll be there, a lot of you will be there 379 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: and or watching, and we'll be back. Welcome back to 380 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: the Twin Podcast. The man next to Me, well Mark 381 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Jackson knows a little bit with him, got familiar with him. 382 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: The other night, Monday Night, Al Kadi Muhammad two and 383 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: a half sacks, three and a half sacks on the year. 384 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: What a terrific game for you Monday night. 385 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: Just just how. 386 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Fun was that going on the road and your defense 387 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: doing what they did. Thirty four pressures them, seven secs, 388 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: seven quarterback hits. You guys got after it, check casey Rogers. 389 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: They put together a great plan, but the players executed it. 390 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: And how rewarding is that when you go on the 391 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: road and have a game like that. 392 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: I mean, to have a game like that Monday night football, 393 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: prime time, don't get no better than that. And you know, 394 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: the great thing is, guys was just flying around. 395 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean it was just play at the play. You know, 396 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: I'll make a play. This got to make a play. 397 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: You know. 398 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: It was just amazing to just see the guys flying 399 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: around and everybody playing together most importantly, you know, so 400 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, coaches put an amazing you know game play together, 401 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: and we went out there and we executed. 402 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, we talked at the end of last year 403 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: and we were just chatting kind of off the record, 404 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, you know, you want to 405 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: come back your entery free agency and you said, yeah, 406 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, i'd love to. Why was that important for you? 407 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: Why was Detroit the number one kind of destination for 408 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you and free agency? 409 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: The culture, just how they do things around here, I 410 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: mean from top down. I just I mean I love 411 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: this place. I mean I just feel as though, like 412 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's a great fit for me. And I knew, 413 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: you know, coming back, you know, I can definitely help 414 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: the team and excel in this defense. So you know, 415 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: it's just it's the coaches, it's the guys in the 416 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: locker room. This is just a great place to be at, 417 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, just all around the board. You know, it's 418 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: fun and uh, you know, we do it the right 419 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: way here. So this is great to be a part of. 420 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of coaches and players say, hey, 421 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: look I don't read what's going on in the media, media 422 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but you guys do a little bit. 423 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: And you know, just I'm curious all the stuff off 424 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: season about you know, did we get enough pass rushers? 425 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: Ye? 426 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Do we have that guy opposite Aiden Hutchinson? When you 427 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: saw that stuff, how much did you take that personal? 428 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Knowing Brad made you a priority to come back. You 429 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: were successful at the end of last season when you 430 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: got an opportunity, and you know, I know from just 431 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: us talking, you were excited about getting an opportunity again 432 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: this year. Marcus goes down, Oh my gosh, what are 433 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: we gonna do? How much would you take that? Personally? 434 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Like like coach, like like, we know what we got here. 435 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we know what we got, So there's no need 436 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: to really like, you know, to uh, you know, I 437 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: call it taking the cheese, you know. Let you know, 438 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: let you know the outsiders be the outsiders. You know, 439 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: the reporters, you know, some fans and. 440 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: You know whatever. 441 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: You know, we know what we got here, and uh, 442 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: just you know, when your name and number is called, 443 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: you know, you just make sure you know you do 444 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: what you need to do. I mean, Chep always say 445 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: all the time in the meeting room. You know, he's 446 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: not just talking to one person, He's talking to everybody. 447 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: You know, when we making corrections and we're doing different things. 448 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: And that's true, that's true. So you know he's he 449 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: always say he's counting on everybody on that defense, you know, 450 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: and we know what we. 451 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: Got and everybody's here for a reason, you know. 452 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: So it's it's it's it's not just about you know me, 453 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: I just you know, happen to be able to you know, 454 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: you know my name and number was calling. You know, 455 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: took advantage of the opportunity. But you know that that's 456 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: that's the NFL. I mean, that's just what it is. 457 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: You know, it's just you know, injuries happen, Things happen, 458 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: and uh, you know that that next guy up is 459 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: the next guy mentality, you know, and sometimes it do sucks. 460 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: I don't wish an injury on nobody, but at the 461 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: end of the day, you know, it's all hands on 462 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: deck and that's and that's what Schep and you know, 463 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: our coaches always talk about, you know, just make sure 464 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: you know, being on the details. He's always preaching being 465 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: on the details and stuff like that. 466 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I definitely don't take that for granted. 467 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: How much you love playing for Ship and you just 468 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: look at the scheme, how he's how he's incorporated so 469 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: many different guys. You guys are playing a lot of 470 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: bas defense, extra linebackers. Yeah, you know, it just it 471 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: looks like it's a fun defense to play, and how 472 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: much are you enjoying it so far? 473 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. I mean different, man, He's different. He's 474 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 4: hot energy. 475 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: You know. I love it. 476 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: And and you know he want the best for every 477 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: guy on it in the room, he want the best 478 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: for every guy. And you know you can either take 479 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 4: it personal or you could or you could take it. 480 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: And and you know, hone in on on the message 481 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 4: and what he's trying to accomplish, you know. And at 482 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: the end of the day, we all trying to win. 483 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you know, we all 484 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: got families, we all got you know, you know, people 485 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: that depend on us. So I love the energy. 486 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't sugarcoat anything either. No, do you 487 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: respect that as a player, because he's been in your shoes. 488 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: He's going to ask you to do something he hasn't 489 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: done himself or been asked to do, and so he 490 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: tells it. 491 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: To you straight too. 492 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: You have to probably appreciate that as a player other 493 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: than some coaches maybe beating around the bush or whatever. 494 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: He'll come right up to you and tell you what 495 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: he what he wants, what you're doing wrong, Here's how 496 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to help. 497 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: You do it. 498 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: And so far, that's where you have to appreciate that. 499 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Don't you. It's grown men business, you know. 500 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: So that's how I look at it, like it's grown 501 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: it's not it's not for the it's not for kids. 502 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: It's grown men business. You know. 503 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: It's a lot of people that's depending on each and 504 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 4: every one of guys, each and every one of the 505 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: guys that's on that field. 506 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: You know. 507 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: So when you understand that, you understand the importense of 508 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: you know, what we're trying to accomplish as as an organization. 509 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: You know. 510 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: So I love him whatever it is, what it is, 511 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 4: you know, so I rock with it. 512 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: What do you like about playing opposite Hutch? Didn't get 513 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity. 514 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 4: It's fun, obviously, it's fun planning on the opposite of Hutch. 515 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: Hutch is so funny, you know, if you really get 516 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: to know him, you know, he has a great personality. 517 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's a great person. You know. 518 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: So it's really. 519 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: Really really really fun, really is extremely fun. And you know, 520 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: we talk, we talking meetings, we talk on the field. 521 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: And what I like about playing you know, on the 522 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: opposite of Hutch. We both got that that mentality, you know, 523 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: we like we like we like a shark and the 524 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: ocean and we smell blood, you know, so so it's 525 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: it's it's it's fun. It's fun being in a room 526 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: with Hutch and being on the opposite side of him, 527 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: and I know how hard he works. I know what 528 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: he's about, you know, and I know what I'm about, 529 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 4: and I'm sure he knows too. 530 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, it's like we're both. 531 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: Trying to get after it, you know, and and and 532 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: and that's it and and we get extremely happy, you know. 533 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: When we when we make things happen out there. It's fun. 534 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: It's so funn We come in sideline, we talk about 535 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: it and you need to go back out there, and 536 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: we try to do. 537 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: It again and do it again. 538 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: So it's really it's really extremely fun to see him 539 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: bounce back from you know, that injury and see him 540 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: get back out there and doing what he loved to 541 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: do and executing and playing at a high level. 542 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 543 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Okay, eleven sacks in the last two weeks for you guys. 544 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: You guys are really rolling as a defensive line, really 545 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: as a defense because without the secondary and playing and covering, 546 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: you guys can't do what you do up front. So 547 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: it's really been a whole defensive effort. What jumps out 548 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: to you about Cleveland this week's opponent. Obviously everybody talks 549 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: about them defensively, number one overall defense, Number one against 550 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: the run, number four against the pass. I've got a 551 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: really good, you know, a really good front. What is 552 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: it maybe that that's been the point of emphasis facing 553 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland's offense this week at home. 554 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: I mean, Cleveland is a They're a good football team, 555 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 4: you know, and uh, they're gonna come out here and 556 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: they're gonna compete and they're gonna come to play. So 557 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, it's no 558 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: different than last week. We have to be on our 559 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: a game. We gotta go out there and we gotta compete, 560 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: and you know, last week is last week. This is 561 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 4: new week, you know, And at the end of the day, 562 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: you gotta turn the page and you gotta have a 563 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: next play mentality, you. 564 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: Know, short memory and move on, you know. 565 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, you know, they're 566 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 4: gonna come out here and they're gonna be fired up, 567 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, we gotta go out there 568 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: and we gotta build. We gotta build on what we 569 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: did last week, and we gotta take that next step, 570 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, to to come out on top. 571 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: Last one, how's your son doing? One of my favorite 572 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: moments was that interview for Thanksgiving with you guys, when 573 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: he was hyping you up. He's playing a little football 574 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: eighth grade, I think, right. 575 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Eighth grade. How's he doing. 576 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: He's doing really really good. He's gonna be bigger than me. 577 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: You know, he's thirteen. 578 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: He'st brand and Dan though, get on him early, keep 579 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: eye on. 580 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: Him, Keep eye on him. You know, you know, Wi 581 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: almost the same height. You know, he wears a size thirteen. 582 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: So is he playing defensive tackle? 583 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: He played a little d tackle. Dn. 584 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 4: He's in my closet a little bit, you know. So 585 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: you know, he gave me all the motivation I need. 586 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: I gotta go out there and make some things happen, 587 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: you know, because you know he's a big k He 588 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: gets expensive now, but he's never really really good man. 589 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: I'm really proud of him. He's amazing. 590 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: I love that. Man. 591 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: You're doing really really good too. You're playing at a 592 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: really high level to start this year. Great game Monday night, 593 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: keep it up on Sunday. Thanks so much. Welcome back 594 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: to the twenty in the Huddle Podcast. I am very 595 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: happy to welcome and Mary Kay cabit. She does a 596 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: terrific job. She is the person to go to if 597 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: you want anything on Cleveland. Does a great job for 598 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: the Playing Dealer Cleveland dot com. She's a two twenty 599 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty five of the Bill Non Memorial. She's going to 600 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. She is the insider 601 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: for Cleveland. Mary Kay, thank you so much for joining me. 602 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 603 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 5: Oh great to be here. Thanks for having me. 604 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's start with this. First off, Lions fans 605 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: want to thank you for the win last week against 606 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: green Bay. I'm sure Cleveland fans appreciated the Baltimore loss 607 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: as well. But what was the most impressive thing in 608 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: your mind, Mary Kay about that win against green Bay 609 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: last week. 610 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: I would say it was just just another dominant defensive performance, 611 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 5: my goodness. To hold green Bay to ten points that 612 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: was remarkable, and to really contain Jordan Love, to hold 613 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs to only thirty yards rushing. He averaged one 614 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: point nine yards per game, and they just really couldn't 615 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 5: get anything going. And the Browns came through with a 616 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 5: big interception late and that kind of helped get things 617 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 5: rolling for them, but really it was just the defense 618 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 5: keeping them in the game drive after drive when the 619 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: Browns offense could not score a point for the first 620 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 5: fifty six minutes plus of the game. 621 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: Well, and that's the next question, Mary Kay, you know 622 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: what has been the biggest issue offensive Because you look 623 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: at the defensive stats and they really jump off off 624 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: the page. They're number one in overall defense. They're number 625 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: one against the run, I think fifty seven point three 626 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: yards per game. That's ridiculous. They're number four against the pass. 627 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: But offensively they're in the bottom, you know, third of 628 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: most of those categories. What's been the biggest issue kind 629 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: of getting rolling offensively? 630 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's really a combination of a lot of things. 631 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 5: I don't think that Joe Flacco has always played his best. 632 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 5: I don't think this offense is a well oiled machine 633 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: right now. Because they conducted a four way quarterback competition 634 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: in camp, Joe Flacco did not have time on task 635 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 5: with these guys. They really didn't get it rolling. And 636 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: then it's another new offense again, it's just a bunch 637 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: of guys trying to learn a new scheme. There's a 638 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 5: lot of young guys on it, and then Quinchhawn Judkins, 639 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: they're running back. He did not have his first full 640 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: practice until last week heading into that game, So I 641 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: think that also had a lot to do with it, 642 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 5: that they didn't really have their running game up and running, 643 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 5: so to speak, until they faced you know, the Packers, 644 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 5: and then he rushed for ninety four yards. So I 645 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: think there's been a combination of a lot of things. 646 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: I wrote a story today talking about how Joe Flacco 647 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 5: and his number one receiver, Jerry Judy, they just really 648 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 5: haven't been able to connect yet or get any rhythm going. 649 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 5: Jerry has only ten receptions for one hundred and thirty 650 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: four yards, no tds. Joe has only thrown two touchdown passes. 651 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 5: So there have been some issues. 652 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, going back to the defense a little bit, 653 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Mary Kay. They've obviously played Baltimore, They've played Green Bay. 654 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Those are two really good offenses. But this Detroit Lions 655 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: offense is really humming right now. I mean, nine hundred 656 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: and thirty seven yards of offense last two weeks, ninety points. 657 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the pre snap stuff, the 658 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: motions and just some of the misdirection I'm curious in 659 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: talking with some of the players and coaches this week, 660 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: what have they said about the challenge that Detroit's offense 661 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: possesses and how much of just how well they've played 662 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: the last two weeks can they take into this week 663 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: as well. 664 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: Well. I'll tell you what they have really noticed what 665 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: Detroit has been doing in the last two weeks, and 666 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: especially just in that Monday night game. As you mentioned, 667 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: all the creative shifting and motion and misdirection and trickery 668 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 5: and deception going on there from that offense. It's pretty incredible. 669 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 5: But the Browns defense, they're just going to have to 670 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: understand what they're facing. And I don't think that they 671 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 5: can get outside of themselves and try to get too 672 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: caught up with what they think that the Lions are 673 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 5: trying to trick them about or do to them. They 674 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: need to play their own brand of defensive football, which 675 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: is really attack, attack, attack, Get the quarterback off of 676 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: his mark, get him somewhat rattled, make him be somewhat inconsistent, 677 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: and make it so that the passing game just isn't 678 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 5: a well oiled machine. So these are some of the things. 679 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: And then stopping the run. They've done a really really 680 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: nice job of stopping the run. It's a really good 681 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: defensive line. Miles Garrett is off to a really really 682 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 5: great start, and then they've got Mason Graham in there 683 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 5: in the middle now and he's doing a really nice job. 684 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: So it's just it's been working well. 685 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has a lot of the lines lines offensive players. 686 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: And talk to Jared Golf on Wednesday and he said, 687 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: look that that defensive line and the back end is 688 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: really good. They're just really good at all three levels, 689 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: and they're well disciplined and they play really well. That's 690 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: obviously going to be a great matchup. Injury wise, Mary, Kay, 691 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: how's Cleveland doing anything of concern there? I know it's 692 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: still kind of early in the week, but anything of 693 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: concerned injury wise? 694 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 5: Well, they do actually have a pretty big issue at 695 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 5: offensive tackle for themselves. They're right tackle Jack Conklin, he's 696 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: missed the past two games with an elbow injury, and 697 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 5: then they're left tackle Dewan Jones suffered a season ending 698 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 5: knee injury in this past game, so he's out for 699 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: the season. They had to sign another player today off 700 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 5: the Patriots practice squad, and you know, and they've got 701 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: backups that are candidates to start at left tackle in 702 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: place of Dewan Jones. So this is not exactly how 703 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: you want to go into a game against the Lions 704 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: when your forty year old quarterback is not that mobile 705 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: to begin with. So this is something that they're going 706 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: to really really have to focus on and figure out. 707 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 5: They're going to have to get the ball out of 708 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: there quickly. They're going to have to try to run 709 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 5: the ball as best they possibly can and try to 710 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 5: do whatever they can to keep Joe Flacco upright because 711 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 5: he got hit ten times by the Packers, really hard 712 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: hits after the throw. You know how physical the Lions 713 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: are going to be. You know what the game plan 714 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: is going to be after they watched that film to 715 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 5: get to and get after that forty year old quarterback. 716 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: So that's something to watch. There are the tackle issues, 717 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: and then Denzel Ward, their number one cornerback, did not 718 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 5: practice today and in addition to a shoulder injury, he 719 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: has a toe injury that cropped up on the injury report. 720 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: So we're keeping an eye on that one as well, 721 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: and don't really know what's going on there yet. 722 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point about the offensive line, you know, 723 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson leads this Detroit Lions seemed thirty pressures against 724 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens seven sacks, Mary Kay. So they've been getting 725 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: after eleven sacks in the last two games, so obviously 726 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: an issue. Are last one for you? 727 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: Mary Kay? 728 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: To you, what's the biggest matchup in this game? How 729 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: does Cleveland come out of Detroit with a victory? They do? 730 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: What? 731 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Well, what do you think that? How do you think 732 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: they can win this game? 733 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be an incredible chess match 734 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: between Jim Schwartz and that Detroit Lions offense and all 735 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 5: the things that I watched a lot of that film, 736 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 5: and I'm seeing what they're doing there, and I know 737 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: that Jim Schwartz has got to be working overtime to 738 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: try to figure out how he's going to slow those 739 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: guys down, because I think it's going to come down 740 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: to the Browns defense doing its thing, the Browns line 741 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: doing its thing. Miles is very very very hard to block, 742 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 5: as you know, but so are a lot of other 743 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: guys on that defensive line. They make it very very 744 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 5: difficult on the opposing offense, as Joe Burrow found out, 745 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: you know, as Jordan Love found out and even to 746 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 5: a certain extent, it was tough sledding for Lamar for 747 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: a little while until the dam broke late in that 748 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 5: game because of some turnovers and things like that. So 749 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 5: it's an excellent, excellent Browns defense and they have their 750 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 5: toughest challenge yet this coming Sunday, and it's going to 751 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: come down to how that defensive line handles whatever Detroit 752 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: is doing to it. 753 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Well, it should be a really fun match, one of 754 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league against arguably the best 755 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: defense in the league. For fie Fields gonna be rocking. 756 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: It's a short trip up for you and the safe 757 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: travels and we'll see you Sunday at for Afield. 758 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: Sounds good, looking forward to it. Thanks a lot.