1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. Welcome to Comedy Saved Me. I'm Lynn Hoffman, 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: and today's guest is someone whose comedy hits that rare 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: sweet spot, you know, that laugh out loud slash funny, 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: slash deeply human all at the same time. Graham Kay 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: is an award winning stand up comedian, actor, and TV 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: writer who's been called brilliantly funny by the Huffington Post. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I would also concur you have seen him on all 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: the late night network shows NBCs Bring the Funny. He's 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: got three comedy albums on Sirius XM, and he's also 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: had a role in Super Troopers too. But today we're 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: talking about something really special, really special. This is is 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: brand new stand up is called Pete and Me, which 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: premiered just earlier this month on April seventeenth on the 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Nateland Entertainment YouTube page. We'll tell you more about that 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: throughout this talk. Pete and Me is about Graham's relationship 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: with his older other Pete, who has profound autism. It 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: is sharp, it is dry, it is unexpectedly moving, and 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: it's exactly the kind of comedy we love on the show, 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: comedy that comes from a real place. That really saves you. 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Graham Kay is next on Comedy Savee Me, Don't go Anywhere. 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. Graham Kay, welcome to Comedy Save Me. 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: It is great to have you here, and I'm loving 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: No one can see this right now, but you are 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: rocking a really cool mustache. I love men who wear 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: a mustache. 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you. 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, my fiance likes it, so I have no choice. 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Ook she does see it now. Usually women don't like mustaches, 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: but that show you're back. 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're back in vogue. At least they are in 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: New Jersey where we live. 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I've gotten out of being in trouble because 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: she likes the mustache so much. 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes she's like, you're lucky you have that mustache, Like, okay, 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: not cutting it so cute. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Next thing, you have to add the goateea in the bottom. 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Then you'll be all even. Then you can have leftovers 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: later in the day. That's what my husband does. 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: Allow. 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: It's massive. Graham, Pete and Me just dropped. How are 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you feeling right about now that it's out in the world. 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Is releasing something this personal and close to you different 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: from your usual work? 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, This is like a culmination, I would say of 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: my twenty years of doing stand up, because this is 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: a comedy special about growing up taking care of my 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 3: profoundly autistic brother. And I never wanted to do something 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: that was would be misconstrued by the audience as making 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: fun of him. I never wanted people to think that 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: I was making fun of him. I didn't want people 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: to hear people laugh the wrong way. And I honestly 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: didn't know how to do it, how to talk about 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: it where I was, uh, just just sort of highlighting 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: him and showing, showing the audience how great he is 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: as a person. 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: And so it just took me a long time to 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: figure that out. And and I think I did it. 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: And you walk away from the special, you know, and 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: it was an it's an off Broadway. It was an 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: off Broadway show this past summer, and we filmed the 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: last performance and put it on YouTube so. 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: You can watch it. And and uh, and and I 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: think I succeeded. Like people walk away from it going like, 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: your brother's awesome. I want to meet your brother. I 66 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: know a lot more about autism. 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: I know more about what it means for a family 68 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: when somebody has profound autism in their family, what it 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: means for the siblings and the parents, because that's. 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Not that's never talked about. 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: And that's also what I wanted to talk about, you know, 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: because that's there's like nothing out there about that. 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was different, completely different. 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: What can you walk us through the origin of the special? 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: So when did you realize that your relationship with Pete, 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: your brother was the story that you needed to tell 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: on stage? Was there a moment that hit you? 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't think there was a moment. 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: I think it was like a sort of a creeping, like, 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: you know, maybe I started going to therapy and you 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: find out, you know, why you are. 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: The person you are and positive and negative, but positive 83 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: as well. And one of the reasons is Peter and 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: so just be you know, comedy is about tell talking 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: about yourself, and the elephant in the room was that 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: one of the reasons I am myself is because of Peter. 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: So I just slowly had to sort of come to 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: the understanding that I'm going to have to talk about him, 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have to do it in a way 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: where people are gonna get that he's awesome. And yeah, 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: so I think it just took, it took, it took 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: a few years. It was like a slow creep. 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: He is awesome, Peter aka Peter Parker Spider. 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Peter Parker spider Man. 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I've seen the little glimpse into your life with him too, 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: that kind of bounce in and out of where you 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: have just regular conversations about things. It's just so special 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: and beautiful, and the material really blends like your quick 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: wit and sharp stand up with very intimate storytelling. How 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: did you find that balance between the laughs and sort 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: of those heavier emotional moments, because it can be. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: It's super hard as a stand up comedian to like 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: not hear laughter and as you just sort of you're 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: just trying. You're trying to write a joke every twenty seconds, 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: but if you're going to get an emotional subject across, 106 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: you kind of have to stop for like sometimes two 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: minutes at a time. And that, honestly, that that was 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: just that was that was like torturous in the beginning. 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: But I knew that. 110 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: As long as I had a joke at the end 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: to sort of relieve tension, and I didn't have to 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: know what that joke. 113 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: Was right away. 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: But if I knew that I eventually would find it. 115 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: When I did find it, I knew that it was 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: it released the tension and help the medicine go down. 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. So but 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: the main thing is is. 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: Like people will come with People will come along with 120 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: you if. 121 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: They like the story. Doesn't always have to be funny. 122 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: So I think that also made me a better stand up, 123 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Like I didn't have to worry about you know, punch punch, punchline, 124 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: punch sligne, punchline. 125 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'll do stand up and I'll. 126 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Do really really well, and I'm like, people didn't know 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: who I was, and they're gonna they're gonna be like, oh, 128 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: I like the third guy on the show. 129 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: They're not going to remember my name or know anything 130 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: about me because I. 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: Was just killing and talking about airplane peanuts or something 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: like that. 133 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, so this special there is one 135 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: woman in the audience that has a laugh like unbelievable, 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: it's like infectious too. Does that help you when the 137 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: audience when there's like a couple of members that are 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: just laughing at everything, even stuff that's not funny. Does 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that help you or the audience. 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: I think it definitely helps the audience. 141 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: You want them to only laugh at stuff that's funny, 142 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: but laughter is contagious, and I think that you need 143 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: you need good laughers. I don't know who she is, 144 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: but I love it. 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: She you know who I. 146 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: Think I do. 147 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I think I know that laugh like I have a 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: friend who laughs like that, and I think it's her. 149 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: I have to ask her. I owe her dinner. She's good. 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: She's very good. 151 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: You cover a lot of your childhood resentment pretty honestly 152 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: in the special. Was it scary to say. 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: That out loud? 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's very complicated feelings as a sibling. Or 155 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: was it actually just freeing to you to be able 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: to just get it off your chest. 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: I think it's a little scary, But also I have 158 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: control of I have control of the narrative, and I 159 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: can decide if it feels gross anymore, and I certainly 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: don't have to record it. 161 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: So that's true. 162 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: So so yeah, I think it was definitely scary in 163 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: the beginning and then but I knew that what I 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: was saying was in the end nice and I think 165 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: most people could see that. 166 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: So and just being just being honest. 167 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: Again, I wanted to be honest and tell everybody what 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: it's like because there's no. 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: There are certain burdens you have, and. 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: There's no support for us society after twenty one. After 171 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: the person with autism is twenty one, there's pretty much 172 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: nothing out there. It's like, well the parents, and what 173 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: if the parents are all well, then it's the brother 174 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: or the sister they have to have to take care. 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: So there are things you have to come to grips 176 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: with when you start reaching middle age like me, you know, 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: you start realizing like, oh, I this isn't this is 178 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: something that's going to be for the rest of my 179 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: life and I better be on board. 180 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: You better. 181 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I am because he's the best he is. 182 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: And you know what I have one of my best 183 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: best best friends is suffers on the spectrum of autism, 184 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and it's just an incredible relationship. Autistic people are people, 185 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: they're they're humans. There are some of the most amazing, 186 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: incredible human beings on this planet. And it's amazing that 187 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: there isn't more discussion about it, like what you're talking about? 188 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean then you know, the main thing 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: to know to know is that there's if you met 190 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: one person with autism, you've only met one person with autism. 191 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter what level they are, how profound 192 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: they are. 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: Everyone is a worthwhile human being and just as worthwhile 194 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: as the next person. They don't have to have a superpower. 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: They don't have to be Einstein. Who was Einstein, by 196 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: the way, probably had autism. Yes, I agree with that, 197 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: you know, so yeah, so the yeah, definitely what. 198 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: It's a ritual, Graham, or a habit between you and 199 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: Pete that maybe outsiders like us would never understand what 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: means everything to the two of you. 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Definitely, every morning we pretend that we are Burt learning 202 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: from Sesame Street. That is a ritual that that's the 203 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: best that we cannot break. 204 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: He will not let it break. And he's forty one. 205 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm forty four. 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: Now and every morning he calls me every day, Hey, Bert, Hay, Ernie, 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: how's it going good? Good? You know, and yeah, it's 208 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: fun and it keeps you like you could be having 209 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: a bad day and. 210 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: You know, you get a call from Ernie. 211 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: How can you not smile? 212 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: How can you not smile? Yeah, so it's a gift. 213 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: How did your parents shape the way that you and 214 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Pete relate to each other. Was there something that got 215 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: right that you didn't appreciate, maybe until you became an adult, 216 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: or was it early. 217 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: On that my parents got right that I didn't appreciate. 218 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: I think I never really appreciated how much work it. 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: Was that my parents had to go through. 220 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: And now that I have a child, I'm a new dad. 221 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: We don't know if my child is autism or not, 222 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: but I just I know how much work it is now, 223 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: and I know that it would be more work if if, 224 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: if my child ends up having autism and have two children, 225 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: you know. And I was a bit of a handful too, 226 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: And just the persistence they had, and I'm sure it 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: was really hard, you know, and I and I did, 228 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: I didn't really fully appreciate that. And they they pushed, 229 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: they pushed my brother. They kept pushing and believing, and 230 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: certain specialists and society and education educators would say that 231 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: these are his limits, my brother's limits, and my parents 232 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: would not accept that. And once, you know it, most 233 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: of the time he was he could do more than 234 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: they said. And and and they put a lot of 235 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: time in that in achieving those goals. Like you know, 236 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: how you drive around your kid to soccer pract Oh, 237 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: now they're travel soccer or whatever, and you just spent 238 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: all weekend at volleyball or soccer so they can get 239 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: like a scholarship or something. Well, my parents did that 240 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: so he could like ride the bush, I mean, and. 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: That's their scholarship that they got my brothers. He has 242 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: like independence and that's spectacular. I mean, yeah, it's cool. 243 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is You had said something earlier when 244 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: we were talking and it just popped into my head 245 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: about the medicine going down. Were you referring to your 246 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: comedy in that it heals not only the audience but 247 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: yourself as well. 248 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: I think so. I think. 249 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: You know, anytime you're in an interpersonal relationship and you 250 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: say what's on your mind. 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: It always feels better. 252 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: And I think that you're you know, any kind of art, 253 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: like if you want to consider stand up art is 254 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: whether it's painting or music, because you're having a conversation 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: with yourself and you have. 256 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: To be honest. Saying it out loud and being. 257 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: Honest it definitely helps helps us say it out loud, 258 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: and I think like people can pick up on that 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: when someone's being authentic or not and that's what makes 260 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: the best stuff. 261 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: So hopefully they can hear that. 262 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: It's very true. But referring to comedy as medicine is 263 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: really Yeah. 264 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: I think so, I think it is. Yeah, I think 265 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: it is. 266 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: I think like you know, you know, if you are 267 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 3: ever disagreeing with the spouse and they're angry at you, 268 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: and then you make them laugh, you can really get 269 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 3: yourself out of a pickle, you know what I mean. 270 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Yes, when I was a kid growing up, when I 271 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: would see any comedian, you know, whether it was on 272 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, Carol Burnett or you know, Saturday Night Live, 273 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: or anytime anyone can make me laugh, I was in 274 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: love with them matter how old they were. So, you know, 275 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: I tell my mom and dad that I wanted to 276 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: marry like Gene Wilder. 277 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Or you know, to marry Gene Wilder. 278 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one understood that. But now that I'm older, 279 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I realized it was because they made me laugh. They 280 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: made me feel so good without even having to know me. 281 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 282 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: It's just amazing. It's like your superpower. Kind of now 283 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: I understand why comedians are comedians, because it's like rock stars, 284 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a superpower. It heals people, and 285 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: it's it's an incredible gift. 286 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: I'll take you. 287 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: And this is comedy save me. So I have to 288 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: ask directly, did you know a time like in this 289 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: context of growing up in this family, you know, did 290 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: comedy save you or do anything so growing up? 291 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: I was thinking about that before I did this podcast, 292 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: Like how am I going to answer this question? And 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean the jokey answer would be like, no, it 294 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: ruined my life, you know, but it. 295 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Definitely saved me. 296 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: I think I was you know, I worked in an 297 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: office before this, and I mean a long time ago, 298 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: and I just I knew that I wasn't gonna like 299 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: make enough money working in restaurants to get the kind 300 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: of life I wanted. And so I like I knew 301 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: it was I was gonna have to stay in an 302 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: office and I just didn't feel good there and I wasn't. 303 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: I felt like I was smart, but I couldn't achieve. 304 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: The quality of work that I thought was up to 305 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: my intelligence because I had you know, I'm dyslexic, or 306 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: I have ADDD or ADHD, you know, all these like 307 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: little things that kind of like maybe their excuses, maybe 308 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: they're not. 309 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: But I just wasn't good at office work. I just 310 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: was bad at it. I would forget things, I would 311 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: misplace things. 312 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: The email I think I thought I'd send the email 313 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: and never present like all this kind of stuff. 314 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm disorganized, you know. 315 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: And I just thought I was going to have like 316 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: a miserable life in a drab cubicle and really regret 317 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: it and probably drink too much on the weekends. And 318 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: and then I found and I just was like, let 319 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: me try comedy. 320 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm young, I got nothing to lose. And 321 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: then I not. 322 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't it was It wasn't like the stand up 323 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: that I gravitated to. It was like the people, like 324 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: I found my my people. I found where I like, oh, 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be here whether I make it or not. 326 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: I have a group of people that I can always 327 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: be with that I understand and they understand me. 328 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: And that was like a huge relief. 329 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: As a young adult, I can imagine yeah, and I 330 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: and it's like been a lifelong gift I never thought 331 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: I would have had, because comedy is an alone thing, 332 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, and you think it'd be very competitive because 333 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: we're each each one of us are striving for the 334 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: same things you think would be be against each other, 335 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: but no, it's like we all are the only people 336 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: on earth who understand what it's like to do what 337 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: we do, so we empathize and get it more. And 338 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: it's and there's a shorthand you go to like Tulsa, Oklahoma, 339 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: and the local your opener picks you up from the airport. 340 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool, and you kind of know each other immediately. 341 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: Even though you don't know. 342 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: Each other, you kind of get who they are and 343 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: they get who you are. 344 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: And it's it's fun. It's really great. 345 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: Fun, you say, though, but you still have to get 346 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: on stage in front of an entire bunch of strangers 347 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: and talk about your life and especially Pete and me, 348 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: this is an extremely personal situation, but back when you 349 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: were leaving an office. By the way, I'm dyslexic too, 350 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: so nice. I find that very interesting that a lot 351 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: of people that I meet in our industry and entertainment 352 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: and broadcasting. 353 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Have that though, like, I'm not going to read, I'm 354 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: going to talk. 355 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't show me words. I'm just gonna screw it up. 356 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: I will make them. Yeah, I'll talk. Yeah, We'll be 357 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: right back with more of the Comedy Save Me Podcast. 358 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Comedy Save Me Podcast. 359 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: It must have been extremely intimidating initially when you leave 360 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: an office job and you go take a stage in 361 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: front of an audience to be a comedian. How did 362 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: you overcome that or did you have to. 363 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: I definitely had to overcome that. I would just I 364 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: was so nervous. I was so nervous. And the first 365 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: few shows I did were in front of big audiences, 366 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: like amateur nights, so people would come to see the 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: new comedians. 368 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: And and then I moved. 369 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: To New York and there's the open mic or opening 370 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: shows you do in New York. When you first start 371 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: are so bad. There's like six there's no audience. There's 372 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: six comedians waiting to go on. That's your audience. They're 373 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: looking at their notes, no one's paying attention. And that 374 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: really helps you build up an armor where you kind 375 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: of like it would be nice to perform in front 376 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: of people you know, and then you so you kind 377 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: of want that to feel what to get, and then 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: you finally start doing better shows where you're in front 379 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: of people and you kind of yeah, it becomes it's 380 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: you get used to it, like anything else. 381 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: So you started sort of under the radar by default 382 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: because of being new and in New York. 383 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you kind of build you build it up. 384 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: You go from you know, six people, four people in 385 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: the audience to ten people who actually want to be there, 386 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: and then you know, yeah, and you just do so 387 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: many shows in the beginning, like I was doing like 388 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: ten shows. 389 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: A week, so you like build up, you build up 390 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: an armor. 391 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: Did people tell you maybe you shouldn't do this for 392 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: a lit or were there any naysayers that you had 393 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: to prove wrong? Or was this totally self inflicted? 394 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: It was totally self afflicted. 395 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: I had all of the advantages to not do this, 396 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 3: and I did it anyway. I think that my parents 397 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: didn't encourage me, but they also didn't dissuade me, which 398 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: I think is really nice and kind in a way. 399 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: You know. 400 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: My dad was like, well, r if you're gonna do this, 401 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: you may have a plan. What's the plan, what's your 402 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: five year plan? How are you going to get there? 403 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: And now we'd have these long talks in the car 404 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: and he'd be like, show me your plan. How's your 405 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: plan coming, you know, and are you implementing it? 406 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: From last time we spoke, and I think that stuff's 407 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: really helpful. 408 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a lot of stats that show 409 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: that people who have plans, even if they just say 410 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: them out loud, yeah. 411 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: You know, they have a hot great greater chance of success. 412 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: Well, careful what you wish for and careful what you 413 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: write down, because it usually does happen, doesn't it. It 414 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: does self affect. It's amazing how much we manifest that 415 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: you don't realize. And whoever came up with that hindsight's 416 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty line there, it's like, couldn't we have hindsight sooner? 417 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 418 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well. 419 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: I found yeah, or I was just yeah, my hindsight 420 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: has never been twenty twenty. 421 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: I never understood that. I'm always like, should I done that? 422 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Or should I done that? I don't know, I never know. 423 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: I never know what happened back there. 424 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, Well, these sound like all amazing lessons that 425 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: you're now going to be able to pass down. Congratulations. 426 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: You're the second person that I've interviewed that when I 427 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: was doing my research, I didn't realize that you're a 428 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: dad now, and when I was watching all of your stuff, 429 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: you were not a dad. So congratulations, that's very exciting. 430 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: This is two months in so yay. Yeah, yeah, it's great, 431 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: it's great. It's really awesome. 432 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: Now back to your brother, Pete can't sit in the 433 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: audience and watch you perform. Have you ever found a 434 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: way to share this part of your life with him? 435 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Does he you know, ever get I'm guessing you get 436 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: to practice stuff with him? 437 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he's come to see shows. Oh yes, yeah, 438 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: he's come. He's wearing a Autawa and stuff. He comes 439 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: check it out. 440 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: He's never watched this particular special, this one man show, 441 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: because I've just never had. 442 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: A chance to run it in Ottawa. 443 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: But I've done like an hour of stand up in 444 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: Ottawa and I've done the I've done parts of it, 445 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: the jokeiest parts of it I've done, And so he 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: knows what I'm talking about, and he's I've told him 447 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: that I've sent him the link. 448 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but he had just had. 449 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: He definitely isn't interested in watching it. 450 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: But that's kind of cool. 451 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah I did. 452 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: I opened for Napragatzi in in the. 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: The Hockey Arena in Ottawa in front of eighteen thousand. 454 00:22:53,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: People like two weeks ago, and my brother came to 455 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: the show with my parents, and I did a couple jokes, 456 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: and mostly just regular stand up jokes, but I did 457 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: a couple jokes talking about how I have a brother 458 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: with autism. 459 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: And then from Pete and Meat and just so people 460 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: got to know my brother because I knew he was there, 461 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: and I knew I was going to do this. And 462 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: at the end, I said, Peter, stand up. I knew 463 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 6: they were kind of where they were sitting in this 464 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 6: big you know, eighteen thousand people and he was in 465 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 6: the lower bowl, and I got to stand up. 466 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: I said, everyone cheer, cheer for Peter, Peter Parker, Spider Man. 467 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 468 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: And then he, you know. 469 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: He took his Spider Man hat off and he did 470 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: the Spider Man fingers where Spider Man pushes his middle 471 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: and ring finger into his palm and it shoots out. 472 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: The webs, the web. So Peter does that hand gesture 473 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: to everybody. There's a great picture on my Instagram. 474 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: Of Peter standing up with his hat off, rounded by 475 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: thousands of people and they're all cheering him. 476 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: He was awesome. 477 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing, amazing. Now, were you nervous? I mean, was 478 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: this the first time your parents, and your brother came 479 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: to a show together. 480 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: No, they've been to a bunch of shows and I 481 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: when they come to town, they come. 482 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much he understands of 483 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: the show, but he definitely comes. 484 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: And he likes that people know what he is. He 485 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: likes that people know that he's being talked about. 486 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: He must love too watching his brother. 487 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: I think so getting that think he thinks it's cool. 488 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: He know what he likes to do. 489 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: He goes with his special needs group to go see comedy, 490 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: like maybe once a month and they go to like 491 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: comedy shows in Ottawa and it's a close knit comedy community. 492 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Everyone kind of knows me or I know them. 493 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: And he'll walk up to the back and you know, 494 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: he's a big guy, but he's he dresses like a 495 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: little kid kind of and he's got a spider Man 496 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: belt buckle and he'll he'll walk up, he'll walk up 497 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: to these people, horner them and be like after the 498 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: show and be like, look I have looked down like 499 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: like that. It looks like he's pointing at something else 500 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: and it'll be this belt buckle and you go, my 501 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 3: brother's Graham K see you. 502 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Later, Mike drop. 503 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: I love that. That is so awesome. April was autism month, 504 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: so how fitting that this special would drop in the 505 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: month of April and Pete and Me has landed right 506 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of that moment. What was was that 507 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: intentional on your part? Did you realize that was a month? 508 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 509 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to coincide with that and then uh, 510 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: honor that. 511 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you what would you hope that people, 512 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: especially families with autistic loved ones, take away from from 513 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: all of this that you're doing. It's great stuff. 514 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 5: I just hope that you know that there's other people 515 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: out there that are going through like you, and that 516 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: you know it likely will be all okay, and that 517 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 5: I hope you can laugh with me about all the 518 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: fun stuff and interesting stuff that comes up that I 519 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: know that you know comes up just. 520 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: A fun it's a fun shown it's about family and love. 521 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Yes, that You're absolutely right. That's the overarching feeling that 522 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: you get when you take away honestly, Nate Bargatzi you 523 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: just mentioned executive produced this special and it's on his 524 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Nate Land Entertainment YouTube page. Lots of funny stuff. What 525 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: is that relationship meant for your career, and what's it 526 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: like being part of Nate Land and what he's building 527 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of stuff coming up down 528 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: the pipeline. 529 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: It's a huge honor to Johnna having the biggest comedian 530 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: in the world at the moment, a producer special. Yeah, 531 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 3: it's just really cool to just be part of that 532 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: and then he can like to tell people about it. 533 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: Just to have him tell people about it is awesome. 534 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: It's very exciting and it's an honor. 535 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: You know, he's an old buddy of mine and we 536 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: always you know, when you starting comedy, you're like, I 537 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: hope one of. 538 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Us, maybe he'll make it, that'll be cool. And then 539 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: he did. 540 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: One of us did make it, and it was him 541 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: and he was bigger than I could ever even imagine 542 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 3: what making it is. 543 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: It's like awesome, so proud of him. 544 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: What's next for you though, speaking of making it, is 545 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: there more of Pete's world that you want to explore 546 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: on stage in other forms or any other ideas for 547 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: projects you have coming down the pipeline. 548 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: I have a new comedy, so this is this. This 549 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: just came out Pete and me. I'm super proud of it. 550 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: I filmed another comedy special a couple of months ago, 551 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: and it's going to come. 552 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Out later in the year. We're not sure when yet. 553 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Also through Nate Land, do you know what's going to 554 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: be called? Not sure yet? Not sure yet? 555 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we don't want to jinx anything. 556 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's about being an old dad for the first time. 557 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: So we're not an old dad. 558 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: Come on, forty four back is sore picking up babies. 559 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's tough. 560 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 3: But I'm really yeah, I'm really excited about just I 561 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: got a bunch of dates coming up. I'm gonna be 562 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: in Ottawa and me in Vancouver and me in Toronto 563 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: and a lot of Canadian stuff and then just sticking 564 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 3: around New Jersey where I live right now with my 565 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: new family and taking it all in. 566 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: But it's it's uh yeah, big year, big huge year. 567 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm having two specials coming out this year, two comedy specials. 568 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: But the second one is just gonna be like regular 569 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: straight stand up about being an old dad. 570 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, this, this, this one, Pete and Me is 571 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: really special. 572 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: And and and dear to my heart and like, yeah, 573 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: just the more people that could know about it, the better. 574 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agree with you. And look at you taking 575 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: over to continent, you know, Canada and America. Did I 576 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: say contents in my country? 577 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: Sorry I'm a little Yeah, there is big as comment. 578 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks, No, but that's really cool. And now 579 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: you're just reminded me of two other people that I 580 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: wanted to marry when I was little, Bob and Doug Mackenzie. 581 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: A awesome Yeah, you're cool. Yeah, thank you. 582 00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 583 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: There is there a moment, Graham, before I let you go, 584 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: or a joke or a bit, or even just like 585 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: a night on stage where you felt comedy really genuinely 586 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: pulled you through something where it actually saved you. 587 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: Very good question, I would say, I would say, you 588 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: go through breakups and then you instead of just staying 589 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: at home at night in your apartment with half the 590 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: furniture left in it, you can go out and talk 591 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: about it and make people and laugh at your own 592 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: situation and know that the people that are laughing in 593 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: the audience have also been. 594 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Through it and that's why they're laughing. 595 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: And then you feel like a sense of community and 596 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: you feel like it's they're okay. 597 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: If they're okay, I'll be okay. No one's gonna be okay, 598 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: and and then you get to be with all your friends. 599 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah it is. 600 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: And they're not laughing at you. 601 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: They're laughing laughing with you. They're laughing with you. And 602 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: at the situation, it's a human situation. It's really nice 603 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: to be able to go through something traumatic and then 604 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: be able to turn it into something that heals you. 605 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: I guess Graham kay. 606 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: His special right now on the Nate Land Entertainment YouTube page. 607 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Go check him out and keep an eye out for him, 608 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: because he is He's like a super nova. And and 609 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: but like you know, at a good speed. 610 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah what I am. Yeah, I just look for Pete 611 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: and me Graham K on YouTube. It'll pop right up. 612 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. 613 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: And then you will pop right up in laughter and 614 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: and love because there's a lot of that. And please 615 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: tell Pete aka Peter Parker that I send my love 616 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: and a big hug. It just I could feel him 617 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: right through the screen and congratulations on everything so far, 618 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: and come back and see us again. 619 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your next special. I will. Thanks 620 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: so much for having me. 621 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: Thanks Graham, I'm buzz night, and thanks for listening to 622 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: Comedy Save Me with Lynn. 623 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: Hoffman and do check out our other podcast, Lynn Hoffman's 624 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: Music Save Me podcast. Also Sarah Harrelson and Taking a 625 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: Walk Nashville and Don't Forget also about taking a Walk 626 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: hosted by Yours Truly. 627 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: All shows are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and are 628 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: part of the iHeart podcast network