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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on sp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zagura. Finally,

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Speaker 1: the week of training camp is upon us here at

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Speaker 1: the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barria, the official kickoff

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Speaker 1: to the Browns twenty two season. Nathan Tzagura and Jason

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Speaker 1: on Cleveland Browns Daily. And the quarterbacks, the rookies, and

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Speaker 1: some selected veterans those coming back off of injury have

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Speaker 1: been here since Friday. They put in some work over

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Speaker 1: the weekend and now tomorrow everybody else will report and

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Speaker 1: then training camp will officially begin on Wednesday, with the

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Speaker 1: first practice open to the public this Saturday. GiB A,

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Speaker 1: So what that means for you in this another week

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Speaker 1: and me, is that it's over, my friend, Summer is over.

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Speaker 1: Good news is summer's and brings football's beginning. And so

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Speaker 1: that gives me a little bit of comfort. So that's

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Speaker 1: the big thing. We're gonna get into. Some of the

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Speaker 1: news of the day, No, none of not the big

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Speaker 1: news that has not yet happened. As I know, everybody

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Speaker 1: is waiting with bated breath for the ruling from Judge

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Speaker 1: Sue L. Robinson on Deshaun Watson, but that has not

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Speaker 1: yet occurred. So we are in the same spot we

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Speaker 1: have been in for a long long time as it

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Speaker 1: relates to that. But DeShawn was here over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: together something for you guys that I think you're really

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Speaker 1: the first practice open to the fans will be this Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the first practice Wednesday with this football team as they

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Speaker 1: get ready for what could be an amazing two season

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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns, a very talented team. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: big question, and it is a massive one, you can't

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Speaker 1: be understated, what will happen at the quarterback position. We

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Speaker 1: that's when we really start to move forward and have

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Speaker 1: as we get ready here for but before we get

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Speaker 1: the week. We'll talk about that. I just want to

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Speaker 1: weekend of fun, so I wanted to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: what did you do uh to enjoy that? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? You know what? It was? Had a nice weekend,

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Speaker 1: had a fantastic little night out on Friday night. UH

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Speaker 1: favorite places I do. Um, I did that Saturday, a

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Speaker 1: little uh, little golf outing. My wife knew what that meant,

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Speaker 1: truly and lived up to the hype. And then some

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Speaker 1: We had a little uh a little family barbecue out

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Speaker 1: family I know why this is a family event before camp.

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Speaker 1: This is your last chance to really see your family

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you had a great weekend. Yeah, what about

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Speaker 1: It was gruesome. Josh Bishop emerged as the champion. He's

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Speaker 1: I'd highly recommend it. They had They brought in some guys,

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Speaker 1: a luchador named Commander from Mexico who I've seen a

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Speaker 1: Of course, the day we take off. It's just one

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Speaker 1: David Bell's the Brown's opening day starting slot receiver. UH.

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Speaker 1: as as we've said, didn't see him drop a single pass.

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Speaker 1: line will have what everybody's looking for, the white, but

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Speaker 1: it will not be this season for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I like all of these honestly, and I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: you know, some people are saying, why are there so many,

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Speaker 1: you know, black helmets? Um? Why because they're cool. That's

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Speaker 1: why they look cool. It's a cool kind of thing

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Speaker 1: that you're able to go out there and add to

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Speaker 1: your helmet repertoire. For teams that actually do wear black,

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Speaker 1: I think it allows them to. I think maybe the

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Speaker 1: twist that I came up is that they're going to

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Speaker 1: wear the black jerseys as well, like it will be

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Speaker 1: a yeah, that's what they're gonna do, a blackout. They

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Speaker 1: have black pants, just like the Jets are gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Commander one to me is such a huh

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Speaker 1: helmet to me. But again, they should have just stayed

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Honestly, they should have. I think

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Speaker 1: they enjoyed that better than Commanders. Same the red Texans

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Speaker 1: feels like a miss, but I'll hold reserve judgment there.

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Speaker 1: We said all along the Texans should be able to

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Speaker 1: use the oiler's colors and make a white lid that

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Speaker 1: has that blue with the red would be awesome. I'll

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Speaker 1: reserve judgment on the Bucks. I think the Jets are

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Speaker 1: gonna look great. I think the Saints willok great, The

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Speaker 1: Eagles look great, The Panthers are gonna look great. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are looking great. The Commanders will see I love those

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Speaker 1: throwback Cowboys unis, and I love the um what the

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Speaker 1: Bengals are doing with the whites and then pat the

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Speaker 1: Patriots undefeated, the Red Falcons elmt's also a great helmet.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants is gonna be great. So beautiful uniform.

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Speaker 1: I love those Giants uniforms. I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: all of this. I'm a fan of all of it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The NFL, No surprise here, the NFL is entering the

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Speaker 1: streaming marketplace with NFL Plus service. NFL Plus will allow

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Speaker 1: fans of you out of market preseason games on all devices,

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Speaker 1: local and national regular season po season games on mobile devices,

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Speaker 1: team and national radio feeds of particular interest to me

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Speaker 1: and you there Gibbey and Mr Jim Donovan and Gerad

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Speaker 1: Cherry meeting at So if you have NFL Plus, that

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Speaker 1: means that you can listen to our broadcast anywhere. I

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Speaker 1: believe so. I believe that's what this is, probably anywhere

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Speaker 1: outside of the local area because local you can just locally,

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Speaker 1: you can just listen to it because you're local, somebody

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Speaker 1: will be carrying it. UM. You'll also be able to

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Speaker 1: get NFL network shows on de Man along with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Films Archive, could also include content produced by teams.

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Speaker 1: Will be access through the NFL app and website. It

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Speaker 1: is an upgrade of the game Pass service has been

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Speaker 1: available to fans in the United States, and NFL Plus

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Speaker 1: will be able for available for four month or a

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Speaker 1: premium package which includes full and condensed gaming plays as

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Speaker 1: well as the coaches film is The game Pass package

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Speaker 1: was previously available for a hundred a year. NFL Plus

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Speaker 1: will will be a part of I don't know what

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Speaker 1: this means, but if you purchase automatically, get it, so

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Speaker 1: if you have season tickets to automatical yet, so it's

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Speaker 1: basically a free eighty buck value. So that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So game Pass has never worked away that we all

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Speaker 1: wanted it to work. I think anybody's ever fiddled around

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Speaker 1: with game Pass would would tell you that, and that's

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Speaker 1: nothing against it. So hopefully that this NFL Plus, this

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Speaker 1: app will give you that because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: do love it's the only place to get the All

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Speaker 1: twenty two film. We not have it last year. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we it was not available. Uh, it was

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Speaker 1: struggling last year. There's no an understatement. It was. It

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Speaker 1: was definitely. It was a struggle. Um moose. Smith says,

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Speaker 1: the cardinals have read Sparkles in the Black Helmet, so

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the that's another piece of the twist. But

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I like that. I'm I think

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Speaker 1: that cardinal uniform is gonna be awesome. Uh. It also

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Speaker 1: should be noted today that forty two years ago, this

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Speaker 1: very day, Caddy was first released in theaters, which is

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Speaker 1: my favorite comedy of all time, The End hard Stop.

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Speaker 1: I've read every book about the making of it. Were

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Speaker 1: three and insane time, I would have been too, but

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Speaker 1: thank you. I was three. Yeah old, forget that I'm

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Speaker 1: older than you. Yeah you are, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: We forty four, I mean I feel old. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: here we go. But so pretty much a great movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to make, I think tonight in honor

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Speaker 1: of that in homage, I'm gonna have to, uh, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna have to put that on for the

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Speaker 1: like the Nightcap tonight, A little kid, Danny, have a fresca.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna have more than a fresco for you,

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Speaker 1: because when we come back Anthony Poisel in studio, and

513
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Speaker 1: we're talking about one of my favorite position groups on

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Speaker 1: this team. I actually was just talking to our dB

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Speaker 1: coach about it. He's feeling good about it and excited

516
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Speaker 1: to see this team get out there and play. And

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Speaker 1: that's I think We're gonna play back end defense really

518
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Speaker 1: as well as anybody in the National Football League. So

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Speaker 1: coming up next, we're looking at the cornerbacks. How many

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Speaker 1: roster spots are open, what roles are truly open in

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Speaker 1: this cornerback room. We will talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: come back here on Cleveland Browns Daily on fift ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: key dot com to learn more. Joining me in studio now,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Poisel, Brown's staff writer, Brown's dot Com, the Brown's

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Speaker 1: mobile app. We see Big Drew Jeff walking by fine

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Speaker 1: bearded men there a p Are you like me? Are

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Speaker 1: you like constantly scrolling your Twitter or you just you

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Speaker 1: know that if something does happen your phone's gonna blow

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Speaker 1: up so much that you don't even need to be

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Speaker 1: like scrolling to see if any news is breaking. Yes, uh,

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Speaker 1: which I asked two questions. My dad would say, shame

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Speaker 1: on me, you know, I I've been doing both. It's

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Speaker 1: I've over the last few weeks, I've definitely like in

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Speaker 1: my mind wondered, you know, in the screen time that

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Speaker 1: you kind of get on like your iPhone and it

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Speaker 1: gives you a report back on what I'm using. I

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Speaker 1: haven't taken a look at it, but I probably showed

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Speaker 1: as far as how much screen, how many clicks, and

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Speaker 1: how many times I've refreshed Twitter. I'm sure it's been

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Speaker 1: it's been high. It's been high for the last month,

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Speaker 1: two months now. Um, at this point, I would say

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Speaker 1: over the last few weeks, I've kind of been more

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Speaker 1: in the I'll find out, it'll somebody will reach out

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Speaker 1: to me if I'm not already plugged in, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out. I'll find out soon. So it's it's coming,

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Speaker 1: it's coming. It could happen. Well, I'm on the show here,

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Speaker 1: you know, I certainly hope that it is happening, and I,

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Speaker 1: as we all do, we all hope that it comes soon. Now,

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Speaker 1: one thing that we do know is that this Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown team has a very very good cornerback room. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you're ranking the position groups,

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Speaker 1: which is give me something we always like to do,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get that in before training camp. You know,

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Speaker 1: running back is going to be number one that you

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Speaker 1: feel the best about. But once you get a night now,

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Speaker 1: you could start talking about the cornerback room because it

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Speaker 1: is so deep. There's so much talent there. Where are

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Speaker 1: you right now with this cornerback room and what do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think about this room? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I just like you said, I would call I

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Speaker 1: would put it as the second, uh, you know, most

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Speaker 1: talented room on this roster, behind the running back room.

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Speaker 1: And then when you look at the depth as well,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many guys that I think, if if

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it starts with Denzel ward Um

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Speaker 1: and there's not there's not a whole lot of new

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Speaker 1: stuff we could say about him. He's been the same consistent,

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Speaker 1: productive cornerback every single year. Obviously they rewarded him with

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Speaker 1: that handsomely with that five year extension one of the

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Speaker 1: bigger news pieces of the offseason. Um, but he's got

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean double digit pass breaups every year

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Speaker 1: of his career. He's been everything that you know, you

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Speaker 1: can ask for when it comes to trying to get

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Speaker 1: one of the you know, a top cornerback in this league,

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Speaker 1: and um, he's been. He's been a top leader for

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Speaker 1: the defense too. I think you know, the guys that

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Speaker 1: the new guys that they've added to that room these

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Speaker 1: last few years have really kind of you know, attached

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Speaker 1: a lot from him, both just by watching what he

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Speaker 1: does in practice, and UM, you know, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: just so important to have a guy like him to

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Speaker 1: start out in a cornerback room and and then when

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Speaker 1: you kind of move on to the other guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: you see Greg Newsom and and the role that he

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Speaker 1: might be stepping into this year and the spot that's

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Speaker 1: I think the big question, the biggest question that's going

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Speaker 1: to be in that cornerback room and one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest questions on the defense this year is you know,

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Speaker 1: how big of an adjustment is that for him? And um,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think he's well suited for it, especially for

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Speaker 1: a guy that's only going into a second NFL season.

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Speaker 1: But he played well last year. And I think I

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Speaker 1: think the Browns, you know, they traded away Troy Hill

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Speaker 1: because they believe, you know, Newsom can step into that role.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get a good look at that in training camp.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that just you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at the depth chart and what is most likely

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Speaker 1: going to look like, you got to feel really good

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Speaker 1: about who they have. You know, injuries are going to

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Speaker 1: arise at some point, and um, as long as it's

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: not like they happen all at once or at one

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Speaker 1: particular point of the season, unless here in l A

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Speaker 1: playing the Chargers, then they all seem to happen at once. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the big A. J. Green, you know, stepped

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Speaker 1: up in that game, greedy, but even still like guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, they did what they could to step up

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Speaker 1: whenever those injuries happened last year. And uh, and you

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Speaker 1: know they added another guy to that room now with

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Speaker 1: with Emerson, So I think it's it's it's definitely one

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Speaker 1: of the top. Uh. You know, strength of this team

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Speaker 1: is is what they have in the cornerback room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned the Denzel Ward, your starters, Denzel Ward

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Speaker 1: and Greg Newsome, and then they'll kick inside when Greg

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Speaker 1: will kick inside when Greedy comes on. But you know

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Speaker 1: you need to have we've heard a lot you want

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Speaker 1: to have five corners. Well, we've talked about those top

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Speaker 1: three and and here's some things that are interesting. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned about Denzela, two time Pro bowler, multiple pass breakups

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Speaker 1: or double digit in every season of his career. Um,

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Speaker 1: then you have Greg who last year when he was

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Speaker 1: in the slot, allowed just point nine three yards per

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Speaker 1: cover snap, fifth best in the NFL. And then Greedy. Actually,

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Speaker 1: last year I had a seventy one point seven quarterback

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Speaker 1: rate when targeted, which was the best on our team

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Speaker 1: in terms of our corners, who played the most, only

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Speaker 1: one touchdown allowed all year, didn't allow a single pass

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Speaker 1: play of more than forty yards last year, eight starts,

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Speaker 1: two picks, ten pass breakups, which tied from team lead

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Speaker 1: with Denzel Ward. And so he had an excellent season,

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Speaker 1: and I know they're optimistic about him. And then you

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Speaker 1: go and use your first pick on m. J Emerson,

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Speaker 1: who was very good at Mississippi State. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: think this is one of the stats where you say, okay,

640
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: that's a lot of respect. Is that teams targeted on

641
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: just thirteen point three percent of his coverage snaps his

642
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: last year in the SEC. And there are good receivers

643
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: and good quarterbacks in the SEC. Yeah, I think that's

644
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: the big thing that you need to keep in mind

645
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: when you look at what Emerson did last year, like

646
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: his his the stats, the interceptions, the pass breakups like there,

647
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: they weren't numbers that you know, popped off the screen

648
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: race recently, right sore. But then you've taken that consideration

649
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: that he just wasn't being as targeted as as he

650
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: was in previous years and as as other top quarterbacks

651
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: are normally targeted. So um, and that's a compliment for him,

652
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: And that's because he played really well. I believe it

653
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: was his sophomore season at Mississippi State and and um,

654
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I think you know other teams took notice for that.

655
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: And that's why he was the third round pick. Is

656
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: that the Browns knew that. It's not It wasn't because

657
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: a lack of opportunity necessarily, It just there wasn't. Uh,

658
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: he didn't have a whole lot of chances to get

659
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: interception to peoples because he just wanted being targeted as much.

660
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: And um, I think they really liked the tall, lengthy frame.

661
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that they are always saying that

662
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: they like most about him is that you know that

663
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: that gives him an extra advantage and it's going to

664
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: help them go against a lot of the bigger receivers

665
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: that are becoming more and more dominant the NFL. It

666
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: seems right now, um, he'll be able to help him

667
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: out with that, and as he develops, I think that's

668
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the main thing he's assigned to. And I

669
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: think right now you know he's going to be competing

670
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: with A. J. Green to be the next guy up

671
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: should something happen. And Emerson, he's got the size six

672
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: to two o one thirty three inch arms. He's perfect

673
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: for our system Cover three press man. You mentioned that

674
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: stats don't jump out you, but he only was targeted

675
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty times in college that and had

676
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: fifteen PVU, so he was breaking up more than one

677
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: every for every ten targets that came his way. So

678
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: he can't get his hands on the football. And a

679
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: smart guy on a role in twenty nineteen and a

680
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: tough guy playing thirty six consecutive games, uh and mission

681
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: and miss huge in their season opener in twenty he

682
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: dislocated his shoulder in the game and finished the game

683
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: and didn't even miss a practice snap the very next week.

684
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: So those are your top four. And then a J. Green?

685
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: And how about this A J. Green? So I talked

686
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: about from our starters what Greedy led our team in A. J.

687
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Green only played a hundred seventy six snaps, but he

688
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: was a brown second highest grade defensive player overall eighty

689
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: six point two, had the highest coverage grade ninety point three.

690
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Again hundred seventy six snaps. He had six p bus,

691
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: one pick allowed, twenty seven point three percent completions, and

692
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback rating of twenty one point four when targeting. Yea,

693
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: though he played great, I was gonna say, are game

694
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: to me? Last year? Was always a guy that I thought,

695
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, he deserves like a more credit, Like I

696
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: think he's like an underrated player. Guy had an underrated

697
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: season last year. Like whenever he was did whenever the

698
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: injuries came up, he was able to step in and

699
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: get the job done like that, those six pass break ups.

700
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: When you look through the list of guys that you

701
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: know on the on the pass breakup list last year

702
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: for the Browns, he was like right up there and

703
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: to the top, only four less I think than Denzel

704
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: and Greedy. And it's like considering that he his opportunities

705
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: were limited just by where he was on the depth charts.

706
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: A super impressive season, and you know, you need you

707
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: can't have a deep cornerback room unless you have guys

708
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: like a J. Green that can step in on a

709
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: moment's notice like that, come in and handle you know,

710
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: some pretty tall assignments against some top receivers. Um. I

711
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: know last year against the Chargers was one of the

712
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: games he had with two pass breakups, and that was

713
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: a game that, yeah, like the you know defense struggle

714
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: that day, but then everything else after that, like that

715
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: was kind of like the low point. And I think

716
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: that game helped them, you know, that experience, just getting

717
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: their feet wet in that one game that season really

718
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of helped the rest of the back end of

719
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: the cornerback room that really kind of take off for

720
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the end of the year. And um, you know, I

721
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if if a J. Green's counter on

722
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: again at certain points this season and performs just as

723
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: well as he did last year. I just I just

724
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: thought he deserved more credit for what he did last year.

725
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: He did he was great, and that's the thing you

726
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: go back and you look at, you know, I remember

727
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: from my talking to Jeff Howard about him, he said,

728
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: he's accountable. You can always count on him to do

729
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: the right thing, be in the right position and the

730
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: right alignment. And so he did that last year. And

731
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: to think about the fact that he played a hundred

732
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: and seventy six snaps and was directly involved in three

733
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: takeaways one interception. He's the last Bronze player to ever

734
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: intercept Ben Roethlisberger, the last Brownze player to ever get

735
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: an interception at Hinz Field. As being named that's a

736
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: trivia question is question, and he had to fumble recoveries

737
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: as well. So I think those top five are locks.

738
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: Barring injury, there are five or five I and then

739
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: you know we were going to talk about it, well,

740
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: are they gonna keep five guys or six guys? I

741
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: think they will take six guys just because when you see,

742
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: you know the type of players that they have behind him,

743
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: with partner Motley, Reggie Robbins, and her Miller, Seawan Jolly.

744
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: So the guys that we don't know really a whole

745
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: lot about it yet. But I mean, if one of

746
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, has a solid training camp and

747
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: if they're you know, we like we talked about on

748
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: the last week, you know, there's gonna be a lot

749
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: of hard decisions and you know, difficult roster spots that

750
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: you gotta decide or they are we going to keep

751
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: this amount of guys in this position, and they just

752
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they do keep six corners though,

753
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: just because you need that depth and you've got to

754
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: make sure you have a plan in case. You know,

755
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: Andrew has always come up with that position. So yeah,

756
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: so we've got four more corners on the roster that

757
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: my guests would be competing for one active spot and

758
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of spots on the practice squad and

759
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: see what they you do there. But her Miller was

760
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: the guy who was with us last year, I would

761
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: say he probably has the early advantage. Nine games last year,

762
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: mostly on special teams, had five teams tackles. Um this

763
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: guy who played four games for Tampa Bay and twenty,

764
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: had a pick in five tackles. He's well liked by

765
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: the players too. There's no doubt her Miller as well.

766
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Like but you mentioned Reggie Robinson. He was a fourth

767
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: round pick of Dallas in twenty. He's been in five

768
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: career games. Parnell Motley has four career games and one start.

769
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: He's been with Tampa, the Niners, Denver, Detroit, and now

770
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: the Browns. So those guys have experienced than Sean Jollies

771
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: are underrafted free agent this year, who's more of a

772
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: smaller slot corner. Three time All Sun Belt Conference first

773
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: team out of apple Achian State. But a couple of

774
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: those guys could still be in the program, and one

775
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: of them has a chance, and and right now you'd

776
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: say her Miller's got the best chance. But Reggie Robinson

777
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, you know, was not an

778
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent like Miller, so that people liked him

779
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: obviously coming out of Tulsa. Yeah, I mean maybe there's

780
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: something that Jeff Howard, can you know a little piece

781
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: of advice that you can give them that okay, maybe

782
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: help him find that extra gear. But I think you know,

783
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned special teams and that's really what that specific

784
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: job is going to come down to is you know

785
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: which guy can maybe do the most on special teams.

786
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: That's just how it normally plays out at the end

787
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: of the cornerback room. But um, I mean, if they

788
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: do decide to keep five, you know it's gonna be

789
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: a good five. Uh and it's great five So um,

790
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like if you're Joe Woods

791
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: and and all the combinations and possibilities that he likes

792
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: to throw together in packages with his secondary guys, and

793
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: he sees what he has in his room right now

794
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: and then the safety room, and I mean, you can't

795
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: be in a much better spot if if you're like

796
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: who Joe Woods is? So give a hand some questions?

797
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: Well new somebody the full time slack corner. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't I think so. I mean that's what that's

799
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: the look that certainly they kept on offering in in

800
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, spring practices and everything. So uh, that that's

801
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: who I fully expect to see out there for most,

802
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: if not all, the training camp. And um, I mean

803
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: that's like we were talking about before. I think he's

804
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: he's well suited for it. It's going to be an

805
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: adjustment for him. A bigger challenge, But um, I don't

806
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: think it's anything he's not prepared for. I think he's ready.

807
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: How big are the injury concerns? The position and the

808
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: depth we talked about. We think the depth is great,

809
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: and yeah, injuries happened. I mean, you want to see

810
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: these guys playful because you know, Denzel, that was when

811
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: can you play the full season? Gregg played in twelve

812
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: games a year ago. You know, Greedy missed all of

813
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: and then he played sixteen games six which is just

814
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: like I mean, I think that was the most games

815
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: that that any quarterback played last year for for the

816
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Browns was sixteen by Greedy, which was just great to

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: see after after his injury. So they said last year

818
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: five cornerbacks made the roster over under just right, I

819
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: think I think we'll get six. I would say I

820
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: would say six as well, but I mean that could

821
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: change maybe a week in the training camp, depending on

822
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: who other positions too. I mean, there's just so many

823
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: factors in variables to consider when you're predicting the bottom

824
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: spots like that. So oh yeah, so yeah, I mean

825
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it six on the ESPN

826
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Top ten cournerbacks. Is what if I and fell exact

827
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: coaches and players Denzel Ward came in number six, push

828
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: for top five status, thinks to elite coverage skills to

829
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls in four years. Quote if the dude is

830
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: healthy and on the field, he is one of the

831
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: best man coverage players out there. Is elite footwork and

832
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: fluid movement. Would knock him on instincts. Will probably never

833
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: be a Dion Sanders top level anticipator, but he's got

834
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: all the tools. Award at three interceptions uh last year

835
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: one a FC coach that he doesn't think Ward's toughness

836
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: matches others on the list, but an a FC exact

837
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: push back on that, he said, actually, darned tougher than

838
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: he's given credit for. He's just small at five ninety,

839
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: so it's more durability than toughness. Over four seasons, Ward

840
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: is a lot of five point nine yards per tempt

841
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: as a primary defenders. Completed percentage at is five point

842
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: six percent lower than expected per next gen staff. So

843
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: obviously a very talented player, and I think I think

844
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: the Brons have a lot of talented guys in this room. Yeah,

845
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it's just specifically when you get

846
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: the top three guys, right, Denzel, Greg Greedy, Like if

847
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: one of those guys hurt, you're not slamming the panic button. Uh.

848
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: You know Greg is able to obviously start on the outside.

849
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Greedy That's how he got a lot of his you know,

850
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: quality plays last year was when he was starting on

851
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: the outside. And and it's like, you know, they just

852
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: they have options. And this is about as deep of

853
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a cornerback room as you can ask for when it

854
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to building a defense like this, and um,

855
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, having a room like this where

856
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: you can yeah, okay, if if Denzel and Greedy are

857
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: on the outside and Greg's on the inside, and you

858
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: can count on all three of those guys, that's gonna

859
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: change the defense so much. It's gonna give you more

860
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: time for you know, the edge rushers. You know, two

861
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: great add rushers here too, to be able to get

862
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Like, it just changes so much about

863
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: how you're able to operate as a defense. And especially

864
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: like I was saying, you know, with all the different

865
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: diamond nickel packages that Joe Woods likes to incorporate, it's

866
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: it really offers him a lot of options and really

867
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: make sure that you can maximize every single strength that

868
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: this defense has to offer. There's no doubt and they

869
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: have done and I think this cornerback room and allow

870
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: what Jeff Howard does with it, what what Brandon Lynch,

871
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: the assistant dB coach does with the then obviously how

872
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Joe Woods incorporates that gives them a lot of flexibility.

873
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: And we see Nickel, we see dime, which is three

874
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: safeties with the three corners. I think we have a

875
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: potential to see some four corner dime this year. And

876
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: m j Emerson one of the things I think that's

877
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch her in training camp. One

878
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: of things that I'm I'm looking forward to seeing is

879
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of at the end of O.

880
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: T A. S and in the mini camp was him

881
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: getting some work as the dime defender. Because think about it,

882
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: he's six to he's big, he's strong, he's physical, he

883
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: can run, and he has great cover skills. Well, that's

884
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: a guy who you can put on a Mark Andrews

885
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: and say you go play Mark Andrews in this situation.

886
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see if we get some of

887
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: that where and that might be the role for m J.

888
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Emerson to be against past heavy teams with dominant tight ends,

889
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 1: maybe he plays some of that dime role to match

890
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: up with those tight ends better than say Ironnie could

891
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: in coverage situations exactly. Like if if he's ever able

892
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: to do that, what are you able to do? Then

893
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: with the Grant delta the Ronnie's of that defense, then

894
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: you know the bigger guys that you're having the secondary there.

895
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And um, I mean who knows. I bet Joe Woods

896
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: knows exactly where they put those guys if it's if

897
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: it's where if Martin Emerson is the guy that is

898
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: is playing uh you know Mark Andrews those kind of

899
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: big tight ends. Um, I mean, that would be such

900
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: a huge advantage. Now, the thing with Emerson is obviously,

901
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: like they don't have to rush him right like it's

902
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: if it if he needs a little bit of time

903
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: to really, um you know, find his way in the league,

904
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: then because they have just this deep, strong cornerback room,

905
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: like they'll it won't be uh at the end of

906
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: the world for that room. So um, I mean, yeah,

907
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's good that he's on on a defense

908
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: like this he's gonna be you know, they can be

909
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: afford to be patient with him, and I think you're

910
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: gonna try to make him a versatile player that they're

911
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna be able to, you know, plug and play anywhere.

912
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be exciting to see this room developed.

913
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: So that's when again Brown's tends you should feel very

914
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: good about this cornerback situation, the depth of the talent,

915
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: the coaching, all of it. I think it's gonna be

916
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: an elite room and give the Browns one of the

917
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: best past defenses in the entire NFL. Now, a couple

918
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: of things I wanted to touch on with you real

919
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: quickly before we got out of here. Did you see

920
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Peter King this Josh Allen today and what did you

921
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: think of it? Josh Allen appeared to be in a

922
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: great deal of pain. Yeah, I thought he wasn't a

923
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: great deal of pain, But I will say both of

924
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: them are. Specifically, Josh Allen played it off expertly, just

925
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: keeping his hand out there waiting for I don't know

926
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: if there was somebody behind the camera that was motioning

927
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: to Peter be like you've you've got extra business here

928
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: by shaking that hand like you know, just letting him

929
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: know that there's this is an awkward moment, but Josh

930
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Allen played off perfectly great moment, and yeah, it's great.

931
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: The way he keeps his hand out there, he's kind

932
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: of left like hey, even tried to get him a

933
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: little sound effect like whoa, whoa whoa, like hey, Peter

934
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: King is so locked in, delivers it and then turns

935
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: to shake his hand like nothing ever happened, which is

936
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: somehow makes it even even better. All right, So that

937
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: was one thing, and then the other thing is so

938
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb squats six hundred pounds. I know, we had

939
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: some fun on our social media with other things that

940
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: weigh six hundred pounds. Number One, that's insane to me.

941
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Number two, it makes me a little bit nervous whenever

942
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: he does that because it just doesn't seem like the

943
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: human body is designed to do that. But the fact

944
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: that there's so much weight on there that it makes

945
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: a weightlifting bar look like a noodle, Yeah, it's insane.

946
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: So the one little caveat wull add into that is

947
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: the bar. I believe it's called a tsunami bar. Do

948
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: you know what that is? No? So it all mag

949
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: Lee Ben's that's not just like the one that we're

950
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: going out there bench pressing, right, It's not like it's

951
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: not I don't think it's made out of steel. Should

952
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: It makes me feel better about this beca It's not

953
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: a steel bar that'spending like that. It's a bar that's

954
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: supposed to have a little bit more, you know, yeah,

955
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: give to it. So, I mean, still super impressive. Um,

956
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: obviously he's got a cushion down. The one thing I

957
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: wanted to point out that that was crazier that we

958
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't haven't talked about. This was back in May, but

959
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: there's also another video back in the off season of

960
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: him squatting six seventy five with a steel bar. So

961
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that if you look

962
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: it up, but I just saw him. Didn'ny power clean

963
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: four fifty? Yes, I mean he's done in sun insane.

964
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy as far as squatting goes. This the videos

965
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: that came out this week, we're not his max this offseason.

966
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: He did one six seventy five rep, so you can check.

967
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I put it in the story because I remember I

968
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: was like, didn't he do something else? This? Yeah, that's crazy.

969
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: But what's wild to me about is you know, like

970
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: some people when they do their power cleans, they don't

971
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: go necessarily all the way back down like you're just

972
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: trying to get it up and catch it. He doesn't,

973
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: but he then basically does the power clean, which is incredible,

974
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: and then front squats for fifty like it's nothing. Yeah,

975
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: he's insane. I I can't. I can't wrap my mind

976
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: around that. I'm not No, I can't. Um. Yeah, that

977
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: seems that's outrageous to come close to that stuff. I

978
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: don't view and me combined that the guy is unbelievable. Alright,

979
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: a P. What can people be on the lookout for

980
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: clon Browns dot com. Brown's Wednesday Big Day. Uh, we'll

981
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: get our training camp observations going on the website. That'll

982
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: be something we're knocking out every single practice. Um. Really

983
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: looking forward to having the fans in on Saturday. There's

984
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: just always an extra buzz that um, you know, kind

985
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: of gets brought to the whole campus here. So um,

986
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be awesome on Saturday. But um, obviously

987
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: you know for the practices where we won't have fans,

988
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: will still have it covered as far as you know,

989
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: any news headlines coming out of that um any notable

990
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: feature stories uh for the day, and and then you know,

991
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: just your your daily dose of training camp observations and

992
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: what happened that day at practice. That's right. I'll be

993
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: doing some two minute drills and Brown's Lives to make

994
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: sure that everybod he's not able to get out here

995
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: and yet a feel for what's going on here in

996
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Barria as the Browns get ready for training camp and

997
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. All right, when we come back,

998
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: you've earned it another opportunity, so keep them good. Zero

999
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1002
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland Brown's Daily, our number two here training camp

1003
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: week kicking off on Wednesday. The players will report tomorrow.

1004
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks and rookies have already been here. Some new names

1005
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen in the mix now. Perry On Winfrey has

1006
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: signed his contract and we are ready to get going

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1011
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Speaker 1: calls to seven eight zero eight fifty if you get

1012
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: those into us. That's my guess. Are a lot of

1013
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: people already are tweeting, tweeting back to me with various questions.

1014
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: Garrett says, well, Brown's practice be live on YouTube again.

1015
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: If so, what does the schedule look like. Yes, we

1016
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: will have Browns Live back for you this season. It

1017
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: will not be every practice. There is a schedule for it.

1018
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if that has been released yet. I

1019
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: can tell you though, for sure. The first episode will

1020
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: be live this Saturday for the Brown's first practice that

1021
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: is open to the fans. That will be live this Saturday.

1022
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: We will have Browns Live. Will be myself and A D. D.

1023
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Kin Kabala bringing you all of the action here from

1024
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: the Cross Country Mortgage campus and really giving you some

1025
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: peaks in now. I know you guys, get used to it.

1026
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: The cameras are gonna be tight. That's just the way

1027
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: that it is. That's how it is at this time

1028
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: of the year for training camp. But we will do

1029
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: our best to update you on everything that's going on here,

1030
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: all the latest news, the latest storylines, exclusive player interviews.

1031
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Will have all that for you on Browns Live. So

1032
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: that is coming your way beginning this Saturday, which is

1033
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: the first practice that is open to the players again.

1034
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: To zero eight fifty is the number that if you

1035
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: guys want to get on board with us. Still to

1036
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: come in this hour, we had got Mike to Rocco,

1037
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: the ESPN NFL Nation Jaguars reporter, to look at our

1038
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: ten most intriguing teams of two and the Jags are

1039
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: an incredibly intriguing team given that last year was a

1040
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: complete and utter disaster and really a wasted season, and

1041
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: now they have an opportunity to turn it around with

1042
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson uh now the head coach down there in Jacksonville.

1043
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: But for the Browns, obviously the big thing is still

1044
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson decision. When that comes, when that will

1045
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: be looming uh and people, we're starting to feel like

1046
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: perhaps soon I and rapped boards saying that there could

1047
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: be some news today on that matter, and Albert Brier

1048
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna try and get you some of that audio,

1049
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: but was doing some interviews today and Albert Brier saying

1050
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: that he believes the NFL will not appeal whatever decision

1051
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: is handed down by Judge Sue L. Robinson. So there

1052
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: were a lot of people that felt for a while

1053
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: that should the decision be handed down and it were

1054
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: two games, four games, that the NFL would then perhaps

1055
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: appeal it and then they could hand down their own decision.

1056
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: There's a feeling now that the NFL will not appeal up,

1057
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: but again we don't know until that happens again. To

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Speaker 1: zero eight fifty with your Brown's questions as we get

1059
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: ready for training camp, also saw something that I found

1060
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: to be just a little bit crazy. So Tyreek Hill said,

1061
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: was on today, was on a show today this morning

1062
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: and was asked why he chose asked by Bart Scott

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00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: why he chose Miami? Uh, and he was on it

1064
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: was First Take today. He said, why did you choose Miami?

1065
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: And this is what he said. I've said it once

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00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. I'd rather play with the

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00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: most accurate quarterback in the NFL to a He's not

1068
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: your typical gun slinger, but if you pay attention to

1069
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: his game, everything is spot on, everything is pinpoint, the

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00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: ball is on time, as fundamentals are on point. The

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: most accurate quarterback in the NFL. That is wild to

1072
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: me there, that's a wild statement. I think that to

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: a look, he's got a chance to prove all the

1074
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: doubters and all the haters wrong. But to say that

1075
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: he's the most accurate quarterback in the NFL, that feels wild.

1076
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: And not only that, it just feels like he's going

1077
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: out of his way to put twa over while kind

1078
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: of throwing a little bit of shade at Patrick Mahomes.

1079
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: And and so for Patrick Mahomes, who has only been

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00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the league, that's it's

1081
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: just gotta be a It's a strange situation for me. Honest,

1082
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that that's a little bit of an odd

1083
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: an odd one there, But that's kind of that's where

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00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: we are. Listen, the fact of the matter is last

1085
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: time to Shaun Watson played in an NFL season, he

1086
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: led the league in completion percentage. So maybe he's the

1087
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: most accurate quarterback in the center of NFL. And we're

1088
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: certainly excited to see what that looks like when he

1089
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: takes the field. As I said, the quarterbacks are here.

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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: They have been putting in the work over the weekend. Yes, Gibbe, Oh,

1091
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: all right, we got the phones fixed. That's good. And

1092
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: now we've got the people, Gibbe, give them to me.

1093
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: Daniel in Naples, Florida to kick off the segment with

1094
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Nathan's a girl on Brown's Daily. What's up, Daniel? He

1095
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: just hung up? Maybe not? What about Mark? Did he

1096
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: get potted up there? Oh? He just hung up. Sorry,

1097
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't a mono. Yeah, how about Marks? Um? Good?

1098
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? I'm gonna be lucky enough

1099
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: to come out to camp next week. And because I

1100
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: say attention to the scores, I know there's gonna be

1101
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: seating changes for the fans. And I was wondering if

1102
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: you can kind of explain what's going on. So what

1103
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you as part of the expansion here

1104
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: in Burriaz that the Browns purchased all those hopes. If

1105
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: you've been out to train camp before, they were kind

1106
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: of all those homes, uh behind the fences, they bought

1107
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: all of those. They have leveled all of those and

1108
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: so now there is a ton of more seating, more

1109
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: v I p areas. You've got some of those trailers

1110
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: that people are gonna be able to rent for the

1111
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: regular season for those tailgates they're there. Um, there's just

1112
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: it's just so much more open, more seating, more space,

1113
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, and I know they're putting in more. I

1114
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: was in the meeting this morning outside they are putting

1115
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: in more bleachers on both the east side and the

1116
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: west side. Uh. There will be seating for the general

1117
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: public in both shich s ations. There there's just flat

1118
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: out more room, more areas to to do things and

1119
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: to move around, and to have space and to be

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00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, close to the action and see the action.

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00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: It's just such a a much bigger facility. And I

1122
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: think there are now new points of ingress and egress

1123
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: as well, right, maybe because you used to only be

1124
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: able to enter at the far end, but now you

1125
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: can come in the side where some of those houses

1126
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: used correct. Yep, there are three different entrances now you can,

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00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: I want to say, over by the field house. There's

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00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: an entrance there. Um, there's the one on the side street,

1129
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: there's one on Beach Street, the usual one. Yeah. So

1130
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: it basically the Browns have gone uh and really opened

1131
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: up the space, opened up the area to create a

1132
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: better experience for the fans. That's you know, what we're

1133
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: about is putting obviously the best product possible on the

1134
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: football field, but also delivering the best experience of the fans.

1135
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: And I think when you're out here, you're going to

1136
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: see a change in that. Looks like they're significantly more

1137
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: space and room. As I said that there, and yeah,

1138
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: Jeff Jdubs was making fun. He said, hello me taking

1139
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: phone calls, hell, trying to get this phone where he's got.

1140
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: Mr Bean. Yeah, I don't know what happened right there.

1141
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm not on the phone, and I'm

1142
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: just a man right here in the studio with you,

1143
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: GiB um. As you mentioned earlier, Albert Breer sharing his

1144
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: perspective on how the aftermath of Deshaun Watson's suspension might

1145
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: play out on The Dan Patrick Show. Here is a

1146
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: here's a little clip of that beautiful Let's say DeShawn

1147
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: Watson's suspended today. Let's say it's eight games, yea, Then

1148
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: what happens from the NFL's side of things and the

1149
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: commissioner's side of things. I think my guests would be

1150
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: they wouldn't fight it. And I know that sounds crazy

1151
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: because they've been so like they've very forcefully gotten word

1152
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: out there, right, And the reason that settlement talks fell

1153
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: apart is because they were assistant insistent on a year

1154
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: and now they're seeking something more than that, which is

1155
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: an indefinite suspension, which under the c b A is banishment. Right,

1156
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: Like it's like almost like he's not an NFL player.

1157
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: So the NFL has sort of been forceful and letting

1158
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: their stance be known. Why would they do that, Like

1159
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: if they know that that's angering the U. S. District

1160
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Court Judge Sue Robinson, why would they do that. They

1161
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: do that because they think things might be going the

1162
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: other way, and maybe they don't want to fight another

1163
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: round on the back end, and so at least it's

1164
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: known out there now what they were seeking. The biggest

1165
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: problem that the league has now if it does come

1166
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: down to be six, eight, ten games, because they negotiated

1167
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: this process two years ago with the union. This is

1168
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: the first high profile case. And what are you saying

1169
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: if in the first high profile case, you're completely undermining

1170
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: the process that you just put in place, especially when

1171
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: that process was driven by a lot of owners, Like

1172
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: remember how remember Dan, You remember how angry Jerry Jones

1173
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: was over the Zeke Elliott thing, right like it was

1174
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: really and and and and the whole premise of Jerry's

1175
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: argument and a lot of other owners arguments at that point,

1176
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: was why are we in the business. Why are we

1177
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to be the FBI here? How about we just

1178
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: let law enforcement take its course, and how about we

1179
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: let others lead us through the process. And if we

1180
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: have to outsource this, maybe we should outsource some of this.

1181
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: But we keep stepping on rakes when it comes to

1182
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: these things, whether it's Josh Brown, Ray Rice, Greg Hardy,

1183
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, they've messed it up so many times. The

1184
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: whole idea of negotiating that thing two years ago was

1185
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: take it out of our hands so nobody can point

1186
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: the finger at us anymore. So I think the way

1187
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: for the NFL to have its cake and eat it

1188
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: too here is to get word out there that they

1189
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: were looking to be really tough with the Shaun Watson here.

1190
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: But ultimately, this is the process they put in place

1191
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: and they have to let that take its course. All right.

1192
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: That was Albert Brier on the Dan Patrick Show, and

1193
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: that goes a lot of kind of what we have

1194
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: been hearing that about this process that ultimately it is

1195
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: up to Judge Sue Robinson to make the decision. The

1196
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: NFL could appeal it, but that that could lead to

1197
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: more of a court battle and something that they'd want

1198
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: to steer clear up. So again, the best thing for

1199
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: everybody is that we just find out what's going on

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: so that we can have the revolution resolution we can

1201
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: all move on. So Okay, here's what it is. Let's

1202
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: all go forward, and that I think is the best

1203
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: thing ultimately for for the league, for the Browns, for

1204
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, for this whole situation to be able to

1205
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: be resolved, and Sue Robinson is the one who makes

1206
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: that decision. Those of you who are fans of building

1207
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: the Browns, the weight is overbuilding the Browns. Returning this Sunday.

1208
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: We will have an episode this Sunday, July the thirty one,

1209
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: an episode on August August, and then September the eleven,

1210
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: so four more episodes to go, one every two weeks,

1211
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: leading you up to the Browns twenty twenty two season

1212
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: uh and taking you inside and behind the scenes. Is

1213
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: only the Emmy Award winning Building the Browns can all

1214
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: right when we come back, We're gonna look at lanzer

1215
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: Lines top ten offensive Rookie of the Year candidates. No

1216
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, but we'll talk about could David Bell be

1217
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: in the mix when it's all said and done. That's

1218
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: coming up next. And then at two thirty Mike the Rocco,

1219
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: the ESPN NFL Nation Jacksonville Jaguars reporter, as we look

1220
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: at one of the more intriguing teams in the NFL.

1221
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: Coming up next when Cleveland Brown's Daily returns here on

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00:59:26,720 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily. Nathan Zigura and Jason

1224
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Gibbs here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Burridge,

1225
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: just two days before the Browns kick off their twenty

1226
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: twenty two training camp to prepare for a big, big season.

1227
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: And we tried the phones. Naughty naughty, but we did

1228
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: get a Twitter question give a from hamp the champ.

1229
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: What's up? Mr hamp He says, what position, group battles

1230
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: are you most looking forward to this camp? Any group

1231
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: you think maybe under the radar that we are not

1232
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: currently talking about. And I know you wrote about this.

1233
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: What was your answer? And ap came in and was like,

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to go with that? And

1235
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: I was like, well, one other and he's like, well

1236
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: there's one really really big one out there, and I'm like, well,

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't think of it that way. Um God, what

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: did I write? Well? Would you say right now? I

1239
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: just ask you the question? Just get me right off

1240
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: the cuff. Yeah, I mean I would say. I mean

1241
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: we all talked about defensive tackle, but I feel like, okay,

1242
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I am fascinated to see what happens in the corner room.

1243
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: What's the battle as you see it? Well, is Denzel healthy?

1244
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got dinged up at mini camp.

1245
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: You know who's and if Newsom is moving into the slot,

1246
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, just is Greedy moving up where wasn't ready.

1247
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: I think the expectation is that he will be ready,

1248
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: and we'll find out obviously on on Wednesday if he's not.

1249
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: But I think that if that were the case that

1250
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: you didn't have Denzel, I think what you would do

1251
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: is Greedy would be outside on one side, Greg and

1252
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: Greg would be the other outside corner in your base,

1253
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: and then if you went into a nickel, Greg would

1254
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: kick inside and then probably a J Green if m J.

1255
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Emerson is not ready it but Ajen probably get the

1256
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: first crack. It's starting outside and it's still a pretty

1257
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: darn good group. I agree. I just think that there

1258
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: it bears watching from a competition standpoint. I also think

1259
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: they're I think there's something to the lie Becker side

1260
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah, I think j Okay, Uh not j Okay.

1261
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: I think Jacob Phillips and Anthony Walker Jr. Is a

1262
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: very good competition and one of the few starting spots

1263
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: that are that are up defensive tackle. Obviously that room

1264
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: is totally wide open. Uh punter is a big competition

1265
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: right now between Joe Charlton and Corey Horkez. So those

1266
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: are really those are the spots. And then he got

1267
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: now I think Dobbs and Rosen competing for the third

1268
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: quarterback spot. Uh hamp said. Here me personally, I think

1269
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: that Ford versus Johnson versus Felton could be fired. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if Felton is gonna be with

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Speaker 1: the running backs. I really don't. And I think that

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Speaker 1: then you could go and say, all right, so in

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, there's incredible competition because you know

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Speaker 1: Mari Cooper, you know David Bell, you know, Donovan People's

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Speaker 1: Jones and Anthony Schwartz. Those are your top four. But

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Speaker 1: once you start getting beyond that, you know, jachiem Grant's

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Speaker 1: gotta count as a wide receiver, and when it's all

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Speaker 1: said and done, their fifty three spots, so he'll be

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Speaker 1: UH receiver and he's your return specialist. You've got Michael Woods,

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Speaker 1: your sixth round pick out of Oklahoma, who's got a

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Speaker 1: big body at six one and has made a nice

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Speaker 1: impression on a wide receiver. Coach Chad O'Shea. You've got

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Speaker 1: you know, Demitrich Felton then who could be in the

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Speaker 1: mix looking at that spot as well and competing to

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Speaker 1: make this roster. Plus Ja Marcus Bradley. You've got got

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Speaker 1: a four year veteran with thirty three career games and

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Speaker 1: seven starts in Javon Wims, who's six four and has

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Speaker 1: a different body type. You've got the young man Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Weston out of Northern Iowa who's six four and a burner.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the all time leader and receptions

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Speaker 1: at the U and Mike Harley Jr. So this is

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Speaker 1: a a room that I think has a lot of

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Speaker 1: competition in it, so I think I think that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty uh, that's a pretty good one. There There are

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Speaker 1: some things outside of the starters that are worth watching.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of that second level, that next level

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Speaker 1: that would that would need to step up. God forbid

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Speaker 1: someone goes down, but we all know injuries are part

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Speaker 1: of the game. Like, who who's that next level that's

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Speaker 1: gonna step up? I think there's a lot of positions

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Speaker 1: there to be decided. There are, and I think how

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Speaker 1: that ultimately plays itself out is going to be very

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Speaker 1: very interesting. And I think that that is when you

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Speaker 1: look at one of these these positions, you say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we know who our top two quarterbacks are. We don't

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Speaker 1: know who number three is. You know the running backs,

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01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: we know who our top three running backs are. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we know number four is gonna be forward,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that's why Felton moves on to receiver

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Speaker 1: perhaps to be able to find a way to make

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Speaker 1: this roster. What's Johnny Stanton's role? Do we carry a

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Speaker 1: fullback or does he make it as a third fourth

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Speaker 1: tight end and he makes it in that way. On

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, I think there's some battles on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line to make this team. We know the starters,

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Speaker 1: but the backups, you know, that's where it gets interesting.

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Speaker 1: Chris Hubbard, I feel good about him making this team.

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Speaker 1: James Hudson. Uh, you've got Ethan Postic, Michael dun Blake Hants,

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Speaker 1: but then you drafted Dawson Deaton. You still have Drew Forbes, yelled,

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Speaker 1: yelled the froe Holt was with the team a lot

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Speaker 1: of last year. You've got a young guy in Alex

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Speaker 1: Taylor the Browns really like at the tackle position. So

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Speaker 1: this is there are a lot of people, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about the defensive tackle room. We don't know anything

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Speaker 1: that's going on there, who the starters are, who the

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Speaker 1: backups are gonna be. You know, you've got an idea,

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Speaker 1: but right now you've got really five guys for four

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Speaker 1: spots and couldn't undrafted free agent like uh Glenn Logan.

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Could he make an impression and say and play his

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Speaker 1: way onto this roster and then he got six guys

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Speaker 1: for four spots. I think that is that's curious. Who

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Speaker 1: are your reserve linebackers? You know, did Tony Fields take

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: enough of a step forward that Tony Fields is the

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Speaker 1: guy that makes this football team or behind him. You

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Speaker 1: brought in Dakota Allen, who's a three year veteran. You

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: got Willie Harvey who's been here for a couple of seasons.

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Speaker 1: So you know, does Richl account solidify that fourth safety

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Speaker 1: job or does perhaps he get pushed for that? You know,

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: does the Anthony Bell push him? A guy who's made

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Speaker 1: a good early impression on the coaches, will he make

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Speaker 1: that impression you know once we get into camp, the

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Speaker 1: young man out of West Florida. So these are the

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: questions that faced this football team. You know, from a

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01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: starting stay and point, it's really all right, Phillips or

1345
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Walker? Who wins your mic job? Who are your

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackles on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, if if Conklin is not ready, who's

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: your right tackle? Is it Hudson or Hubbard? If um?

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, who wins the punting job? And that's kind

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01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: of it, that's kind of it. You know, does David

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01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: Bell comes? Yeah, but it's different than when we had

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01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: no idea who was starting anywhere for this Browns team. Yeah,

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: it was I thought I thought it was. I think

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: that this is a very solid, solidified roster where they

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: were probably really at the end of the day, forty

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: five of the fifty three spots are set, if not higher.

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Speaker 1: I mean we could go through it. Uh. I'm interested

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01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: to see who who becomes the training camp darling. Who's

1359
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: the undrafted guy or the under the radar guy that

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: shows up and makes it running at one of these

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: spots well I mentioned like the Anthony Bell and the

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Speaker 1: safety room, you know, pushing rich account. I think that

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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: he would be one or maybe get They keep five

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01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: safeties because of the flexibility. If he's a guy who

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: can play some time. Um, I think, you know, do

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Speaker 1: you keep four running backs? And if so, you know Chubb, Hunt, Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and Ford. Where does that leave Felton the wide receiver room?

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Speaker 1: How does that last spot play out in the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room? So there are some there are some interesting

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Speaker 1: battles and things obviously that the Browns are gonna have

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Speaker 1: to sort out as this training camp unfolds. And I

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Speaker 1: think what's gonna happen. The proof is gonna be with

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01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: the pads on in these practices and then obviously in

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Speaker 1: the three preseason games, and our first preseason game is

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Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville, just like it was a year ago

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Speaker 1: against the Jags and coming up next year on Cloom

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Speaker 1: brown Jailey, Mike de Rocco, the ESPN NFL Nation Jaguars reporter,

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01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: joins us to talk about what should be a dramatically

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Speaker 1: different second season for quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1: on ESPN Cleveland. Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily. We

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Speaker 1: are continuing our ten Most Intriguing Teams of series with

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Speaker 1: a look now at the Jacksonville Jaguars, and boy are

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Speaker 1: they intriguing to me and to help us talk about

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Speaker 1: this team and give you some insights. Who better than

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: our current guests Mike to Rocco, the ESPN NFL Nation

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Speaker 1: Jags Reporter. So, Mike, let me just start with this,

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Speaker 1: could last year have been anymore of kind of not

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01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: even unmitigated, but an unfathomable disaster in Trevor Lawrence's first

1389
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: season in terms of what happened, what didn't happen, and

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: and the fact that it was just kind of a wild,

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: wasted year down there in Jacksonville. Gosh, I'd hate to

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: think that it could have been any more of a

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Speaker 1: disaster than it already was, because it was pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. I've been in this

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01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 1: business for thirty years and have not even come close

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01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: to experiencing a season like that. Um. From a media standpoint,

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01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: let alone from I can't even imagine what it was

1398
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: like that those players to have to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: But you know it, there's only one way to go

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: when you when you're coming off a season like that,

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: and that's off and you know there there are certainly

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: some arrows pointing up for the Jaguars for various reasons.

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01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: That doesn't you know. I'm not saying that they're they're

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: headed for like a Cincinnati Bengal Super Bowl running you know,

1405
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: year two of Trevor Lawrence, but certainly, um, I don't

1406
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: think they're going to be at the bottom of the league. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'd agree with you. Let me ask you this, when

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: did you know? At what point was it? It may

1409
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: have very well been like the first training camp practice

1410
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: you saw or heard about, but when did you know

1411
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: that last year this something was amissing. This team was

1412
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: not being coached like an NFL team, were prepared like

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: an NFL team. Well, when they walked out on the

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: field for the open or in Houston and We're just

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: it looked like they had just showed up the day

1416
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: before and we're like, hey, we're playing a game tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Glad you guys are all here, let's go. Uh. They

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 1: just looked un order that they got penalized um twice

1419
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: or they had they had too many men on the

1420
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: field on defense twice and had to call a time

1421
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: out to avoid having it happened a third time. Uh.

1422
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: It was brutal just how unprepared they looked. And I thought, oh,

1423
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: because that's Houston team. Everybody thought last year was going

1424
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: to be the worst team in the league by far,

1425
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: and it wasn't the case. And then the night that

1426
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: Urban was you know, caught on video in the bar

1427
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: up in Columbus behaving inappropriately, That's when I knew that,

1428
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: uh yeah, there was no uh, there was no chance

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: for that team to have any success last year. It

1430
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: was shocking. But the good news is that is in

1431
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Speaker 1: the past. Incomes Doug Peterson, and now this is a

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Speaker 1: team that you feel like, as you mentioned, there is

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: some talent. What's the biggest you know, in your mind,

1434
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: difference maybe from O T or the mini camp that

1435
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: you saw with with Peterson in charge and how how

1436
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: bright is the outlook for this Jaguars team as a result, Well,

1437
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,879
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest thing, honestly is is the personnel

1438
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: significantly better than the group that walked off the field

1439
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: last year? Um, Christian kirk z A Jones. Okay, those

1440
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: guys aren't you know, massive Pro Bowl All Pro receivers,

1441
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: but they're significant step up from what the Jaguars dealt

1442
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: with last year. Evan Ingram, the tight end, signed a

1443
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: one year deal. He's probably the best pass catching tight

1444
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: endless franchises maybe ever had, except back in the day

1445
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,440
Speaker 1: with Pete Mitchell way way back in the in the nineties. Um,

1446
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: so their personnel offensively is better. You've got Travis e

1447
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: t n on the field this year. I mean miss

1448
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: last year is a rookie with the Liz Frank injury.

1449
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: But you know, looks fantastic is completely cleared at the

1450
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: start of camp and ready to go. So just the

1451
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: that factor alone makes them better. And then you talk

1452
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: about what they did on defense with Devin Lloyd and

1453
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and adding uh Foyer, lewkn and um, you

1454
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: know Darius Williams the corner from the Super Bowl champion Rams.

1455
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: So their personnel is significantly better. And then you add

1456
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: in the fact that you have a competent, experienced, non

1457
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: dysfunctional coaching staff led by Doug Peterson, who is a

1458
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: former quarterback in the league and obviously a guy who

1459
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with a backup quarterback and Nick Foles,

1460
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: and you know, we saw how that disaster worked out

1461
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Speaker 1: here in Jackson. And and by the way, we all

1462
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Speaker 1: forget this too, he took Carson went into an m

1463
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Speaker 1: v P Canada before he got hurt. So I mean

1464
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Speaker 1: you add all that in and you look at this

1465
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: team and you think, yeah, they're not great, they may

1466
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: not even be good, but they're certainly better than they

1467
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: were last year, just on on you know, talent alone,

1468
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Speaker 1: and and the fact that Doug Peterson is in charge

1469
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: now that that that should make this team a six

1470
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: win team. Um, yeah, I think there's upside on that,

1471
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Speaker 1: as we talked about obviously, when you got Trevor Lawrence,

1472
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: who was regarded, you know, is so can't miss coming

1473
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: out a wasted a year and hopefully the damage was

1474
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: not significant that was done in that year, but that

1475
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: he can bounce back from that. He's got you know,

1476
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: Za Jones and Christian Kirk in what did you think

1477
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: of those contracts and how are they going to be

1478
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: utilized with Marvin Jones in that receiver room and it

1479
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: is there the potential for a Lavisca chenult resurgence. Uh. Well,

1480
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: you know the Kirk contract thing is eighty three million

1481
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: dollars and and everybody was like, oh my, that's Christian Kirk.

1482
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: You're giving all that money too. But the bottom line

1483
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: is if you look between now and then, the Jets

1484
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: kind of ruined the wide receiver market for all these

1485
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: teams that have had to pay big time money to

1486
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: get their guys. So they're taken a couple of dance

1487
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: out of some team salary caps. In the future. Um,

1488
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: you know Kirk will play mainly in the slot. Um.

1489
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: And you know he had a really nice catch on

1490
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: the sideline today, tiptoe type of thing. Um, you know,

1491
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: late in the practice. This was their first practice today.

1492
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: But the thing of it is is, you know, Marvin Jones,

1493
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: z A Jones and and uh, Christian Kirk of their

1494
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: top three, without question, those are their top three. And

1495
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: you know Laviska Shenal is gonna have to find a

1496
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: way to make some impact after that. Because um, you know,

1497
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: this team has also got Lakwan Treadwell, who was probably

1498
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: their best receiver at the end of the year they

1499
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 1: brought him back. And then also dealing with Jamal Adnew who,

1500
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: Um you know, he's only been a receiver for several years,

1501
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: but he's one of the league's best kickoff returners. He's

1502
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: coming back off an injury. Um you know. Then you

1503
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: you look at at the tight ends with Ingram and

1504
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, who has been a solid pass catching tight end.

1505
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: Even if you look at Laviska Chanal is the number

1506
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: four wide receiver. I mean, there's a lot of other

1507
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: guys that are going to get the ball e t

1508
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: n Um you know, so there may not be a

1509
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: ton of opportunities for Leaviska Chandals. Um you know last

1510
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: year he led the team and drops. It was uh

1511
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, he his numbers. You look at his numbers

1512
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: and you just say, okay, he had a pretty good year.

1513
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: But man, he led, like I said, lead the team

1514
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: and drops. He was out of position a lot there.

1515
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure we've all seen the clip. You guys have

1516
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: all seen the clip where uh he and Marvin Jones

1517
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: running into each other. Uh you know late in the

1518
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: game at the end of the year because they were

1519
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: running the wrong router, Levisca was running the wrong route. So,

1520
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: um Leavisca has a long way to go to kind

1521
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: of be one of their top three or four options offensively.

1522
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: But he's the secondround pick. They're not going to give

1523
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: up on him for sure. And he looked good no

1524
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: t A s and you know, he had a nice

1525
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,919
Speaker 1: catch and run today in the first day of practice,

1526
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: so you know, it's a good start form for sure.

1527
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: When you look at this offense and you've listed you know,

1528
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: Kirk and Jones and Jones, that receiver Evan Ingram at

1529
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: tight end, Travis Etien, and then James Robinson who I

1530
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: know avoided the pup list on the defensive side of

1531
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: the football, how do you see you know, is there

1532
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 1: anybody from a fantasy perspective that you think is going

1533
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: to emerge as the one guy you want in this offense? Wow? Uh?

1534
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: I mean I think Kirk will Will you know, he'll

1535
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: be their wide receiver one, so he'll get the wide

1536
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: receiver you know, one action. I guess he's not, you know,

1537
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: a true number one wide receiver. That makes a whole

1538
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But the guy I you know, I've

1539
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: had people ask me as the guy I'm said, I

1540
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: I tell people go ahead and draft or take Evan Ingram.

1541
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a big time factor in

1542
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: this offense. You can move him around, do a lot

1543
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: of things with him. Uh. You know, when the jag

1544
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: had Dan Arnold on the field last year and he

1545
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: was healthy, which was not a whole lot of time.

1546
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they got him the ball a lot, they

1547
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: moved them around. I think they're gonna do a lot

1548
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: of the same kind of things with Ingram. Get some

1549
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: matchup issues. Um, you know, if you've got Ingram on

1550
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: the field as well as e. T n and Kirk

1551
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones, now all of a sudden, you've got

1552
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: options there in the middle of the field. Was not

1553
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: an area that they worked very well last year. But

1554
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: I think Ingram will allow them to do that this year.

1555
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: And he's really a wide receiver playing tight end. I

1556
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: mean he's not here, you're you know, in line tight end,

1557
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: so he you know, he almost have to look at

1558
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver. So I'm telling people when

1559
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: they asked take Evan Ingram, I think he's in line

1560
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: for a big, big year for for the Jaguars. When

1561
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: you look at at Trevor Lawrence, what's the biggest difference

1562
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: you see in him right now then from from a

1563
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: year ago, It's just Um, it stood out to me

1564
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: in O t a s too. It's just a confidence

1565
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: and the um comfort level that he didn't have last year. Um.

1566
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's a rookie, he's coming off shoulder surgery.

1567
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: He's dealing with a head coach and coaching staff that

1568
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: was making the transition to the NFL. UM. He's dealing

1569
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: with all the issues that I mean, we don't have

1570
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: enough time to go into with Urmand. Meyer's here and

1571
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: he has to be. He had to stand up at

1572
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: the end of the year and be the leader for

1573
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: that entire team, and that includes his head and he

1574
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: had to sit there and say, look, we need James

1575
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: Robinson on the field. He needs to be on the field.

1576
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: We can't have any more of these distractions. This stuff's

1577
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: gotta stop. UM. So that leadership married to the fact

1578
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: that he feels so much better because he knows what

1579
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: to expect. He's got a great head coach in Doug Peterson,

1580
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: a guy who played the position he's a quarterback friendly guy.

1581
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: They're building the offense around him. They got him all

1582
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: these extra weapons. He just looks so much more confident

1583
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: and comfortable. Now does that mean he's a thirty touchdown,

1584
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, seven interception guy. Yeah, I don't know, but

1585
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: certainly you have to feel good if you're the Jags

1586
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: that that he's in the mindset that he is heading

1587
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: into his second year. So that's the offense. The defense.

1588
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: You know, you had the number one pick in the draft,

1589
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: two first rounders to that defensive side of the ball.

1590
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: What do you like about this defense? And and by

1591
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: the way, why can't this team win their division? I

1592
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: think Tennessee is middling. The Colts, we'll see they're good,

1593
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: but they don't or anybody. And they need to get

1594
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against last year's Jags. And all I

1595
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: do is beat him and couldn't do it. And the

1596
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: Texans are you know, they still don't seem to have

1597
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: everything figured out. If this d is good, why couldn't

1598
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: this team do some things of consequence? Yeah, that is

1599
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: a question that that that I've actually kind of thought about. Two,

1600
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: because like this is not the a f C West

1601
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 1: as as you mentioned, you know, the defensively, the Jags

1602
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: couldn't get to the quarterback last year and that's been

1603
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: their their problem last couple of years. And then two

1604
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: years ago they couldn't stop the run. They're marginally better

1605
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: at it last year. So but but the main thing

1606
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: is getting to the quarterback, which is why you know

1607
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: they signed R and T in free agency. It's why

1608
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: they drafted Trayvon Walker number one overall, even though he's

1609
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: a real raw uh prospect at outside linebacker. Um, you know,

1610
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: it's why they drafted Devin Lloyd overall, a guy who

1611
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: can kind of do it all. He's not, you know,

1612
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: your true typical pass rusher, but he can play inside outside,

1613
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: he can rush the pass or at times. Um, you know,

1614
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: they added another a linebacker and Chad Muma who could

1615
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: play inside a little bit of outside as well. And

1616
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: I mentioned Darius Williams from before. Um, you know, all

1617
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you've got three corners that you

1618
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: feel really good about with him and Tyson Campbell and

1619
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin. And you know Williams will work mostly in

1620
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: the slot. So you've gotten pieces. Now do they mash?

1621
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: Do they gel? I don't know, Um, this franchise has

1622
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: a lot of problems with the Titans. Uh, they haven't

1623
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 1: won in Nashville since two thousand thirteen. Um, and Derrick

1624
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: Henry just kills this this franchise. So UM you know

1625
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: that to me? You know, I still think the Titans

1626
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: are pretty good. Um, but you know, losing a j

1627
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: Brown is certainly gonna hurt. And the question is how

1628
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: much how much longer can Derrick Henry perform at that

1629
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: big of a level, at a high level for a

1630
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: physical back. Um. But I mean I love Matt Ryan.

1631
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: I think that was a really good signing with the Colts. Um.

1632
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: But you know, Jonathan Taylor is the key there and

1633
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: can this team stopped Johnson Taylor? Um? You know, Garris Leonard,

1634
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I guess is dealing with an issue. But I mean,

1635
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: you should be fine for the regular season. I do

1636
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: think it's a little more open than maybe everybody thinks.

1637
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: But but if you've made me, you know, could the

1638
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Jags sneak in as the champs at nine and seven?

1639
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: I think that might be asking a little bit too much.

1640
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: But are nine and eight? Excuse me? I can't really

1641
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: get to the seven teams game on math never adds

1642
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: up it's hard. It is, it is, But I mean

1643
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: I still think they're a year away from being a

1644
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: team that could win this division. They've got to figure

1645
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: out how to win at least six games first. Um,

1646
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: So that that's kind of where I think they stand.

1647
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: Is that what you kind of put them at right now?

1648
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: Six and eleven, seven and ten, what would be considered

1649
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, a successful season for them. I Well, to

1650
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: be honest with you, six wins might get Doug Peterson

1651
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: a statue after the last two and there's won four

1652
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: games the last two years combined. Um, you know, and

1653
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: they played the a f C West, so that's not good. Um.

1654
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: You know, they play the NFC East as well, and

1655
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, well, we'll see how that goes. But you know,

1656
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: I mentioned the problems with the Titans. You know, if

1657
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: they can get six wins and there's no distractions, no

1658
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: off field issues, no dysfunction, no one's at a bar,

1659
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: no one's getting arrested, it's just a normal NFL season,

1660
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: then I think that's a massive success for this franchise

1661
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: because the last two years certainly have not been that,

1662
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: and this franchise needs normalcy at this point. It sure does.

1663
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: And I hope they get it. Always have fun when

1664
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: we go down there, and we will for our preseason

1665
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: opener on Friday. That is what August the twelfth, is

1666
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: that right? I got that date right, Friday, August the

1667
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: twelfth will be down in Jacksonville. So we'll look forward

1668
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: to seeing you and and hope that you know, things

1669
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: for the Jags can be better. I think Trevor Lawrence

1670
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: has got a lot of people like them coming out.

1671
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 1: Would like to see him get a chance with some stability,

1672
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: so that should come this season. Mike, thank you so

1673
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: much for the time. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me,

1674
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: all right. That was Mike de Rocko, the ESPNFL Nation

1675
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Jags reporter, thirty years plus cover in this league. He

1676
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 1: never saw anything like he saw last year, and hopefully

1677
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: for Jakes fans they will not again. So much more

1678
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: to come here when we return. Wrapping up this Monday

1679
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: edition of training camp week here on Cleveland Brown's Daily

1680
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Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily, ESPN Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown's mobile apps. You can go to our YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com Slash Brown's I got two of drills.

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Speaker 1: Position previews, every position on the roster, every player on

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Speaker 1: the ninety man roster, learn about them, get ready when

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Speaker 1: you come out here. And then of course the Brown's breakdowns.

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Speaker 1: I urge you all to check those out. Those are

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Speaker 1: our YouTube channel as well. That's myself and the rookies

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Speaker 1: position coach, So David Belts me and chat me and

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Speaker 1: chat o'sheay for you're talking about Perry on Winfrey. It's

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Speaker 1: me and defensive line coach Chris Kiffin for KD York.

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Speaker 1: Me and special teams coordinator Mike Preefer for Martin Emerson Jr.

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Speaker 1: Me and the great defensive back coach Jeff Howard. So

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Speaker 1: it's me and the position coach of that rookie in

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Speaker 1: the film room looking at their college tape and then

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Speaker 1: where applicable some of their tape from the O t

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Speaker 1: A s in the mini camp. I can't stress enough

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Speaker 1: how much I enjoyed making this series and I think

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Speaker 1: it will provide insights to you about these rookies that

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Speaker 1: quite frankly won't be able to get anywhere else, So

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Speaker 1: I urge you to go ahead and check those out

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. Slash Browns want to thank Mike the

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Speaker 1: Rocco for joining us about the Jags, and I mean

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01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,839
Speaker 1: when he said it, in thirty years, never seen anything

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Speaker 1: like that. It just tells you how unbelievably unique and

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Speaker 1: frankly bad things were last things were the last year

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Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville. I guess, like as good as college

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Speaker 1: coach as he is, if you're a college program, are

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Speaker 1: you giving him the keys at some point in the

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Speaker 1: next like two years. College is totally different. It's totally different.

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Speaker 1: Of course he can recruit, Yeah, of course it's it's

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Speaker 1: different than the NFL. You can have superior talent and

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Speaker 1: be able to win that way in college the NFL,

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Speaker 1: everybody sets himself. I think a school that's looking to

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Speaker 1: make a splash is going to give him a shot

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Speaker 1: because he does build championship programs in the collegiate game.

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Speaker 1: You can't deny that at all. All right, big thanks

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Speaker 1: to a p Thanks to Mike, to Rocko for give

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Speaker 1: a I am Nathan Szagura saying the next level is next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty,

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