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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Klay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: A lot to discuss with you, particularly on the criminal

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Speaker 2: justice front. Let me tell you that if there is

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Speaker 2: a theme I can throw out for all of you today,

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Speaker 2: it would be if this was a we had law,

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Speaker 2: jurorsprudence and social thought was our pre law department at Ambers.

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Speaker 2: We could have started out the day or the class

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Speaker 2: today with what is justice exactly?

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Speaker 3: Question mark?

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Speaker 2: Because you have a couple of things all coming together,

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Speaker 2: the Daniel Penny trial, which I want to get into

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Speaker 2: some detail with you on an update on Jesse Smolette.

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Speaker 2: That's right, friends, and it is not a good one

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Speaker 2: for those who believe in justice and sanity. And then

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Speaker 2: also the continued freak out over Matt Gates as the

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Speaker 2: would be Attorney General of the Trump administration to this

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Speaker 2: day I will throw out, to this day, despite all

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Speaker 2: the things, never charged with any crime of any kind,

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Speaker 2: Congressman Gates, isn't that interesting? Maybe they should start the

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Speaker 2: discussions at least with that. If they were thinking about

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Speaker 2: this in legal terms, you would assume, right, we always

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Speaker 2: have to say alleged, but he's not even really alleged.

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Speaker 2: Is he, because no one's ever even brought charges.

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Speaker 3: It's just in the ether.

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Speaker 2: It's just rumor, it's just stuff that people have said

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Speaker 2: to other people, but that no authority has ever actually

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Speaker 2: that's important to put out there because the way that

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Speaker 2: all these discussions in the Democrat media are going, you

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Speaker 2: would think that somehow this had been adjudicated in a

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Speaker 3: And we like the truth here. So I do want

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Speaker 2: Can, with these two moments in time, with our justice

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Speaker 2: to do a deep dive into his initial interrogation, okay,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Penny. And then I will get to what is

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Speaker 2: going to be called now by at least Jesse Smollette

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Speaker 2: and his team, the exoneration of Justse Smollette.

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Speaker 3: That's right, friends, they've overturned.

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Speaker 2: Overturned that preposterous liars conviction. And I want to get

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Speaker 2: into why. I want to get into how this happens,

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Speaker 2: how it undermines our sense that the rule of law

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Speaker 2: real in this country. Just like with the legal immigration,

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Speaker 2: the lawlessness all around us builds up and creates a perception,

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Speaker 2: creates a broad feeling that this is now just a system,

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Speaker 2: meaning our league system through which power is exercised instead

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Speaker 2: of justice, and that includes racial justice, social justice. All

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Speaker 2: the different forms that they say, no, no, no, there

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Speaker 2: is only justice. All those other things are politicized versions,

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Speaker 2: are political notions. We'll get into this though. Right justice

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Speaker 2: as a concept, it's either just or it is not.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have these modifiers. But there's a

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Speaker 2: Daniel Penny. As you know, part of my story is

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Speaker 2: being broken into, people are being sexually assaulted, and nonprecedented

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Speaker 2: numbers something like twenty two hundred murders when I'm in

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Speaker 3: Guess what we did all day? We talked, right, And

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Speaker 2: You know what a stakeout is, hanging out with a

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Speaker 2: And then we lost that because of the vile communist

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Speaker 2: police and racial justice movement all tied in together. Abolish prisons,

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Speaker 2: view it that way. Any person can commit a crime

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Speaker 2: and should be held to account. We are all equal

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Speaker 2: in the eyes of God and the law, and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what those numbers end up being. Riker's Island,

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Speaker 2: the primary prison of New York City is over ninety

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Speaker 3: That is just the true. That is just the number.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they say, well, that's unfair. There must be

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Speaker 3: Guess what happens. We've seen what happens.

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Speaker 2: And in New York City specifically, they've seen this major uptick,

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Speaker 2: was a change in political will. Now enter Daniel Penny

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Speaker 2: and what happened here. I watched the whole interrogation tape.

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Speaker 2: He is facing right now manslaughter charges in your involuntary

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Speaker 2: How'd that go for her family? Why is this guy

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Speaker 2: lock him up?

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Speaker 2: Ask the Democrats that one Daniel Penny steps in. Now

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Speaker 2: Very frustrating because I think Daniel Penny, he's a young guy.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's easy for me to sit here.

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Speaker 2: Former CIA, you know, worked in worked with law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: Their job is to just find the purpse, get all

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Speaker 2: They're not on his team. He sat down with them.

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Speaker 2: This is the interrogation, the eight minute long interrogation, and

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Speaker 2: they they they very quick established rapport. You had a

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Speaker 2: out I'm not. I mean, this is what detectives do.

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Speaker 2: This is out of the one oh one playbook. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're all buddies here, talk to us without a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Play it.

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Speaker 1: I did a certain Marine corps.

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Speaker 5: was you haveslimore?

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Speaker 4: Ninety six to two thousand midloads.

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Speaker 3: So we want to talk to you about what happened today.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a trap and you just see him walking

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Speaker 2: That's how they got Martha Stewart, by the way, lying

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Speaker 1: Clay Travs here.

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Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving from all of us at the Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay An Buck. We're talking about the

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Speaker 2: Daniel Penny caase in New York City, which the whole country,

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's one thing for me. I'm six

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Speaker 3: Be like, oh, but he had aspiration.

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Speaker 2: You know, you punched him, but he eats, So what

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Speaker 2: Any of you who haven't read the book Bonfire of

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Speaker 3: By far. Go read it. You'll see the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: the whole playbook.

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Speaker 2: It's right there. Daniel Penny had to make that decision himself.

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Speaker 2: How am I going to take action here to save

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Speaker 2: And there's the interrogation tape, which I want to go

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Speaker 2: be critical of Daniel Pennig. It's just a teaching moment here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm a marine. I'm a marine.

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Speaker 2: We can trust each other, right, zem for five right,

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what happened. There's a lesson there.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 4: The vibe shift is real. The winning is stacking up.

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Speaker 4: I hope all of you had fantastic weekends. We've already

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Speaker 4: and Buck, I just want to run through some things

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, we had UFC fight.

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 4: They had not only like Netflix. First of all, they

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Speaker 4: had issues with it. But Buck, they brought back ring girls,

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Speaker 4: were times Buck where people said, your career is over.

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Speaker 4: You can't be saying positive things about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was told when I endorsed Trump, and

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Speaker 1: I was reading in the New York Times over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Out after he won the election.

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Speaker 4: They didn't do it before the election, but as soon

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Speaker 1: I voted Trump. Here's my sign. That's up.

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing Buck, video now of dudes rolling into and

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Speaker 2: Nobody, even the most ardent Trump supporter in Manhattan circa

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Speaker 2: So the change is real. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 3: I think on a number of fronts.

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Speaker 2: Clay, they really came up short. Kamala Harris was a

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Speaker 2: Kamala you know what I mean, Like you see these people,

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Speaker 4: See the most almost spit I was taking a sip

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Speaker 3: But it's true though, I mean, that's what these guys just.

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Speaker 3: People look at them now, you're like, you're such a shmo.

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Speaker 2: You you know, you were all in on Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: and she got destroyed by Trump. You wrote these op eds,

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Speaker 2: So you you gave her a ninety day campaign. Effectively

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of mockery.

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Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: That's hard to shake.

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Speaker 4: A couple of things that I want to play that

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Speaker 4: We made fun of Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski an

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Speaker 7: thirty three. The point applies if this is something not

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Speaker 7: as savage as Germany nineteen thirty three, but simply an

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Speaker 7: autocrat who decides to be a dictator on day one,

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Speaker 7: who decides to arrest all those who he doesn't like,

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Speaker 7: to take news networks off the TV, as he said

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Speaker 7: he would do if they're not supportive of him, who's

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Speaker 7: talked about assassinating generals that aren't sufficiently loyal to him,

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Speaker 7: has complained to his chief of staff that his general

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Speaker 7: should be more like Hitler's generals. Of course, Hitler's generals

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Speaker 7: tried to kill at af Hitler. But Donald Trump didn't

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Speaker 7: know history, so he didn't know that. Whose own lawyer

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Speaker 7: said in court he could use Seal Team six to assassinate,

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Speaker 7: to assassinateolitical rivals, and if you were president of the

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Speaker 7: United States, he could not be arrested.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 4: That's last month. Listen to what Joe Scarborough said. This

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Speaker 4: again last month. That's what he was telling his audience.

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Speaker 4: Listen to what he said. This is a new clip

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Speaker 4: we got this morning about Trump.

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Speaker 7: Think about this. Of the one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 7: votes cast, Donald Trump got fifty percent, Kamala Harris got

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Speaker 7: about forty nine percent. So I don't know. Seems to

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Speaker 7: make sense for leaders of both parties to seek common ground,

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Speaker 7: if it's possible at all. And I will tell you

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Speaker 7: a lot of Democratic leaders we've talked to this past

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Speaker 7: week since the election have told me and me it's

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Speaker 7: time for a new approach. And when I say top Democrats,

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Speaker 7: I mean top Democrats. They said we're open. And this

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Speaker 7: is before we talked to Donald Trump. He said, listen,

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Speaker 7: we're open to working with the incoming president. If the

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Speaker 7: incoming president is open to working.

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Speaker 1: With us, Buck, I mean, this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Can I throw out something?

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Speaker 2: Do you think he would come on this show and

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Speaker 2: explain to his mindset shift? If if he's serious, if

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Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough is serious about maybe Trump isn't Hitler and

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Speaker 2: we need to see common ground. He should be willing

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Speaker 2: to reach out to the other side himself as a

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Speaker 2: thought leader of the left or whatever. I think he

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Speaker 2: considered himself an independent and come on and can try

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Speaker 2: to I mean I would have questions for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it would just would he become overtly

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Speaker 2: hostile by being asked the obvious questions like why'd you

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Speaker 2: say somebody's Hitler?

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Why would you see compromise with Hitler? I would seek

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Speaker 2: no compromise with Hitler. I certainly wouldn't go to Hitler's layer.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to like the eagle's nest or whatever,

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Speaker 2: you know, the fallback location.

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Speaker 3: Hey, can I rub your feet and tell you how

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Speaker 3: great you are like, no, no, I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: So hey, what's up, h Man, give me a fist.

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Speaker 4: Pound always thought you were under respected under Radia. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's well, we should invite him. He will probably not

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Speaker 4: come on, but Ali, you can try to reach out

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Speaker 4: to his apparatus corporate wise and invite him on the show.

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Speaker 4: We don't run from people, even if they have moronic opinions,

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Speaker 4: if they want to discuss them on this show.

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Speaker 1: But I also want to play you this buck. I

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Speaker 1: had the team grab it.

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Speaker 4: You know who suddenly has decided that immigration is out

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Speaker 4: of control? How about Justin Trudeau who has announced that

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Speaker 4: he is going to now limit immigration in Canada.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of listeners north of the border.

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Speaker 4: A and they are overwhelmingly disgusted with the decisions that

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Speaker 4: Justin Trudeau has made.

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Speaker 1: You talking about a major vibe shift.

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Speaker 4: It's not even just in the United States, America's top hat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we blew it on immigration. Justin Trudeau is saying, listen.

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Speaker 8: Immigration, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 5: In the last two years, our population has grown really fast,

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Speaker 5: like baby boom fast, and increasingly bad actors like fake

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Speaker 5: colleges and big chain corporations have been exploiting our immigration

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Speaker 5: system for their own interests.

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Speaker 8: So we're doing something major. We're reducing the numbers of

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Speaker 8: immigrants that will come to Canada for the next three years. Today,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna let you in on what happened, where we

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Speaker 8: made some mistakes and why we're taking this big turn.

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Speaker 4: Buck Canada now is saying, hey, this whole immigration thing, Hey,

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Speaker 4: maybe we got a little bit ahead of ourselves. We're

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Speaker 4: not going to basically allow immigration for the next three years.

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Speaker 4: So you got Joe and Mika, you got basically the

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Speaker 4: entire NFL, and now you've got Justin Trudeau. Trump's ability

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Speaker 4: and you're right on this to get things done has

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Speaker 4: never been more readily apparent in his entire political career.

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Speaker 4: I mean this honestly, than what he's going to be

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Speaker 4: able to do in the next year. We've got to

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Speaker 4: efficiently get things done. But he's never had a larger mandate,

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Speaker 4: more public support, greater cultural power than he does right now.

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Speaker 2: It's a remarkable thing to see. And we're going to

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Speaker 2: be focusing on the consolidation of the cabinet and those positions.

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Speaker 2: Also the battle over Senate confirmation that may not just

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Speaker 2: be with Democrats. Some Republicans make it a little weak

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Speaker 2: in the knees over the possibility of some recess appointments.

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Speaker 2: Here and here's what I see, Clay, and I believe

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Speaker 2: Trump has already spoken to this. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: a warp speed administration. Member Operation Warp Speed back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. It'll be a warp speed administration. And so

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Speaker 2: far as they're going to have to do the big

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Speaker 2: things right away, right out of the gate, it's going

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Speaker 2: to have to be, you know, going for it in

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Speaker 2: year one. I think we are heading into whatever one

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Speaker 2: thinks of the different choices and policies. Just in terms

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Speaker 2: of the amount of political capital that is going to

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Speaker 2: be spent by an administration, I think year one, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five of Trump two point zero might be one

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Speaker 2: of the most consequential years we've seen in American politics

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Speaker 2: in twenty years, maybe more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: you could quantify it.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be the most most consequential we've

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Speaker 2: seen in our lifetime, short of nine to eleven, maybe

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Speaker 2: when we decided to invade a bunch of countries.

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Speaker 3: But that's another conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think Bucky had a prediction for you. We can

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Speaker 1: mention and we come back.

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Speaker 4: You know, you watch Stranger Things, right the televisions. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you know when they had the Mondel and Ferraro

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Speaker 4: like yard signs and you looked at it because it's

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Speaker 4: a nostalgic show for people who don't know. I think

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Speaker 4: in the years ahead, even people who didn't vote Trump

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Speaker 4: are going to start claiming that they voted Trump. That's

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Speaker 4: when you know the vibe shift is real.

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Speaker 1: Is that four years.

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Speaker 4: From now, I think Trump's going to come in and

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Speaker 4: be so much more powerful that I think people are

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Speaker 4: going to be embarrassed to say that they were Kamala

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Speaker 4: Walls supporters, just like a lot of people people who

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Speaker 4: voted for Ferraro and Mondel. I've never even heard anybody

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Speaker 4: talk about voting for them. Because the Reagan Revolution was

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Speaker 4: so powerful in eighty four, I think we're going to

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Speaker 4: see that with the Trump win.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Buck Sexton from Our Home to Yours. Have

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Speaker 2: a wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show. The

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Speaker 2: recapture of the Starship as it comes back down to Earth.

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Speaker 2: We don't do a lot of I feel like the

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Speaker 2: Starship Enterprise theme song should be in the background here.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk a lot about, you know, outer space

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Speaker 2: exploration and the forefront of science here. This is incredible.

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Speaker 2: This guy who may have saved free speech in the

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Speaker 2: Western world because of his purchase of X, and has

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Speaker 2: changed the car industry and is creating robots that are

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Speaker 2: almost too human it's getting freaky. Also has reopened Clay

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Speaker 2: Space Exploration. The entire space industry has had life breathe

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Speaker 2: into it by Elon Musk and it's going to take

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Speaker 2: some time, but we are now on a trajectory to

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Speaker 2: dramatically expand as a species or ability to be in

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Speaker 2: space to colonize other places.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible stuff.

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Speaker 4: I was texting with my sixteen year old about this

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Speaker 4: last night. He was so impressed. He loved the idea

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Speaker 4: of space travel. I know many of you out there

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Speaker 4: probably are fascinated by it too. What Elon has done

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Speaker 4: when you talk about remaking the automobile entire engine and

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Speaker 4: whether you want to buy an EV or not, the

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Speaker 4: fact that that even exists is pretty remarkable, and that

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Speaker 4: SpaceX is better than NASA at Space Exploration. Now Elon

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Speaker 4: and we know he's bought x, which is a major

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Speaker 4: difference in the way the media has impacted. But Elon's

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Speaker 4: goal is to be on Mars before he dies. I

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Speaker 4: think he's going to manage it. And it's a pretty

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Speaker 4: remarkable thing to contemplate all that he has accomplished. And

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Speaker 4: it makes me feel good that he is on the

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Speaker 4: Trump train as aggressively as he is, because he sees

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Speaker 4: the woke mind virus as a threat to human accomplishing.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's critical because if he wasn't also

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Speaker 2: political now and fully on the Trump train, there would

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Speaker 2: already be in you know, elite academic and technology circles

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Speaker 2: at the very top discussion of how this guy is

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Speaker 2: lining himself up in terms of his accomplishments, which I

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Speaker 2: think are beyond lining himself up to be in the

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Speaker 2: category of those greats like Isaac Newton, da Vinci, Einstein, Marconi, Gutenberg.

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Speaker 3: This is civilization advancing stuff that he is doing. I

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Speaker 3: think it's the largest.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the largest thing sent up into the

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Speaker 2: sky ever as well. I mean, I will just say

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Speaker 2: it's not a plane, right, It's like the largest aerial

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Speaker 2: object that we've ever had up in the air and

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Speaker 2: to have it recaptured and make it reusable. This is

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Speaker 2: in a hundred years us.

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Speaker 3: No one's gonna be talking about how Kamala gave.

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Speaker 2: The worst speeches and who cares, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see if she's President's your point, Clay, Nobody will

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Speaker 2: even remember her name in ten years if she doesn't win,

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Speaker 2: but they will remember this moment going in, you know,

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Speaker 2: and on this Columbus Day, people can think to this

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Speaker 2: is a civilization advancing achievement. And I just think, you know,

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Speaker 2: all due respect to not just Elon but everyone at

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Speaker 2: SpaceX and the people who are doing incredible things. Incredible

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Speaker 2: things are still very possible despite the communists who are

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Speaker 2: trying to tear us all down.

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Speaker 4: I do think the accomplishments of Elon Musk, in particular

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Speaker 4: his goal to make to make a world humanity a

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Speaker 4: multiplanetary species, is pretty remarkable. And what he did with

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Speaker 4: landing that device with SpaceX is is extraordinary. Front page

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Speaker 4: article Sunday edition, New York Times talking about Elon Musk

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Speaker 4: seeing the Trump election as essential to his goal for

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Speaker 4: the progress of humanity. And I actually thought our old

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Speaker 4: friend John Fetterman, Pennsylvania Senator, who is one of the

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Speaker 4: few Democrats that make sense on a day to day basis, said,

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Speaker 4: don't underestimate the impact of Elon Musk. Here is cut seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Most endorsements don't count for much in this business. But

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Speaker 6: Musk is incredibly popular, and he has an appeal to

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Speaker 6: a demographic that Democrats have been struggle with there and

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Speaker 6: to some people that they see him as that's Tony Stark.

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Speaker 6: He's the world's richest man, and he's undeniably a brilliant guy.

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Speaker 6: So I think that is a situation for Democrats. We

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Speaker 6: would have to acknowledge that. And it seems now now

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Speaker 6: I see that on the front page of the New

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Speaker 6: York Times now talking about it. So you know, that's

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Speaker 6: a significant development for me in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: He's basically Buck moved to Pennsylvania. Elon Musk has he's

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Speaker 4: running a campaign out of Pittsburgh to try to win

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Speaker 4: the state for Trump.

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Speaker 2: Look, it is significant that Elon created a free speech

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Speaker 2: platform with x because of the sharing of information. Did

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Speaker 2: we mention it's the four year anniversary of the Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: Land destroy today.

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Speaker 2: It is today the four year anniversary of the New

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Speaker 2: York Post breaking the Hunter Biden laptop story, and then

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Speaker 2: the collusion between the biggest social media companies to shut

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Speaker 2: it down, to lock the New York Post, which I

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Speaker 2: think is the oldest newspaper in New York, you know,

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Speaker 2: ongoing newspaper in New York, lock it out of their

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Speaker 2: own account. Total scandal that couldn't happen the same way today.

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Speaker 2: Elon's kicked it wide open and also the richest guy

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Speaker 2: on the planet and the most important CEO and entrepreneur

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Speaker 2: going all in for Trump means something