1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: After months, maybe even years of speculation, finally it happened. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: After constantly hearing Max Crosby's gonna get traded, Who's Max 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Crosby gonna get traded too, it finally happened. Max Crosby 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: is headed to the Baltimore Ravens. What's it mean for everybody? 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: How are we feeling about it? 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Honestly? How am I feeling about it? 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: As I sitting here with the Max Crosby side jersey 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: right behind my head. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: It's Bucket fits on Fox Sports Radio. He's buck rising up, 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Jason fitz buck. I've been waiting all day for this 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: moment where we get to talk about it because my 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: buddy Max Crosby gets traded from my beloved Raiders to 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens. I'm sitting here with the Raiders jersey 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: behind me, realizing it is the end of an era, 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: and this is one of those rare moments where man 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: like I feel a million different guys' ways. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I'm sitting here saying it makes sense. 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: You and I've talked about why. I think it was 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: kind of a win win the Raiders pick up two 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: first round draft pick for a team that's nowhere near 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: ready to compete. It just stinks when you constant, really 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: constantly realize that your favorite team, even when they get 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: good players, A can't win with them and B can't 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: hold on to them. It's sort of a reminder of 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: why certain teams have it and certain teams don't. 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: And no matter how. 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: We parse it out, at some point, I think Max 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: is a winner. He can go win some Super Bowls. 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: The rest of it, We're gonna have to see how 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: it plays out. But today is one of those tough 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: days for fans as they sit there and realize, man, 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: my favorite team is nowhere near competing, even with one 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: of the best players in the league, having spent several 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: years trying to change the culture. 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: There two things. 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 5: One, I'll put it before the court, Mary Mack being 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 5: the court, my buddy Max Crosby. 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: Fine or no fine. 40 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: I think it's important context cause I'm not asking you, 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: not asking you each your whatever you're eating, whatever you're 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 5: shoveling in your face, as we do live right across 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: the nation. 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: Whatever whatever it is that. 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: You can't be bothered to wait until before or after 46 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: the show. 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm emotionally eating here Buck emotionally, I. 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: Went into a bar city eating. 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: I went into a. 50 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Bar today and I was immediately like a buddy walked 51 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: up in the bar and said, man, I was laughing 52 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: out loud yesterday you making fun of your co host 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: wearing just a robe. So I don't want to hear 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: anything about professionalism because you barely got dressed for two 55 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: pros and a cup of Joe yesterday morning. 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: Just because you're wearing a shirt. 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: Today doesn't mean you get to call me out when 58 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to shovel in some good nutrition. 59 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: I was just trying to Also, who's to say that 60 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: I have pants on today? As we do the radio 61 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: show in the world middle of. 62 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: The afternoon, Mary Mack fine or no fine? 63 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: She's giving no fine, no fine? 64 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Mary Max showing up to work in just a dude 65 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: to Bide's robe with your chest air popping out while 66 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: you're facetiming with your co host and nobody sure if 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: you're wearing underwear or not, but you certainly look like 68 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: you just had an all night er with. 69 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Somebody that you probably don't know their last name. Is 70 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: that fine or not? 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: A fine? 72 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: Mary Max completely out on the show. Mary mackis decided 73 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: she's she's done, she's done with both of us. She's 74 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: done this, Buck, this is what's happening. 75 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Not so now that we've determined, not a fine from 76 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: me with Max Cross. It's fine. It's a fine. Oh 77 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: I'm getting fine. 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: It's not a fine me. 79 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: I want to go put my parfae in the fridge. 80 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: It's a fine both the Yuh, Okay, we're both fine. 81 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I was just giving my part in the 82 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: fridge show just started. 83 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just giving context here, Bluck. How we 84 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: How should I feel right now? 85 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm not going to tell you how you 86 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: should feel. I mean, that's rich. 87 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: I don't care how you feel. No, I of course 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: I care about, uh, your fragile emotional state, because again 89 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: I'm I'm just happy to see you eating food in 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: front of us for once, as opposed to, you know, 91 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: whatever ridiculous starvation diet you've been on these past I 92 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: don't know, two years. 93 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: I am. 94 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: I view this a bit, as you know, it's kind 95 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: of like a relationship type of situation where you've been 96 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 5: on the fence about whether or not you should break 97 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: up with this particular person, and finally there comes a 98 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: moment where you get the closure of Okay, it's just 99 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 5: now over. It's finally over. We can both move on. 100 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 5: Everybody can, you know, go their separate ways. But one 101 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: side is going to be left in a worse situation 102 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: than the other depending on who made the decision. Now, 103 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: if you're a Raiders fan, your organization made the decision 104 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: to trade him away. Trade Max Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens. 105 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: I don't like the trade for the Ravens, though, I 106 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: don't like it much at all. 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: Two first round picks. 108 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 5: They've never traded a first for anybody, much less two 109 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 5: first round picks. And I'm not down on the player 110 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 5: that Max Crosby is, but just objectively as a football 111 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 5: fan and somebody who has seen Max Crosby play in 112 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: person covered games that Max Crosby has played in. Because 113 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 5: of the nature of my job covering the Tennessee Titans, 114 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: I was just in Las Vegas and watching him whoop 115 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 5: some ass in a game that was really had nothing 116 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: else to be featured except for Max Crosby and Jeffrey Simmons. 117 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 5: I think that for Baltimore this is very uncharacteristic, and 118 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 5: maybe it is the thing that sets them over the top. 119 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: But they need those first round picks. And this is 120 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: not an. 121 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 5: Organization that does a move like this. Ever, they regenerate 122 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: their roster organically through the draft. They don't make big 123 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: splash moves like I mean Derek Henry. 124 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: I guess it is a big splash move. But even 125 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 4: then he was a thirty year. 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: Old running back that the world looked around and said, 127 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: how much longer can he keep doing this? Except Derek 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 5: is half man, half amazing. Is the fate does the 129 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 5: great Mike Keith once coined him. So that's a little 130 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: bit of a different scenario. I just I don't think 131 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: that this makes a lot of sense for Baltimore. If 132 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: that makes you feel any better, I think you want 133 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: the trade. 134 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Look, I think here's the hardest part about it. When 135 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: you're treated for draft picks, the Raiders get two first rounders. 136 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: I watched John Gruden get. 137 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: Traded from the Raiders for draft picks, and those traft 138 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: picks became nothing. I watched Khalil Mack get traded from 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: the Raiders and those draft picks became nothing. I've watched 140 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: multiple trades where draft picks are the incentive, And as 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: you and I have talked a lot about, I want 142 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: to remind you most of us listening, if your team sucks, 143 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: part of the reason they suck is because they are 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: inherently bad at the draft, right, So, you know, getting 145 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: draft picks for a team that's bad because they don't 146 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: draft well doesn't feel particularly hopeful. But I do think 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 2: there is hope in this. I think sometimes the toughest 148 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: thing to do in life is to look in the 149 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: mirror and realize that things aren't where they need to be. 150 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: And to me what the Raiders are finally admitting after 151 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: years of trying all these different ways to work around rebuild, 152 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: to work around the concept of a rebuild, to work 153 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: around this partial rebuild for everything that they always try 154 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: to do, to maintain some level of. 155 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: You know, commitment to excellence that I grew up hearing. 156 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: I said, when Kubiak was hired, the one thing I 157 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: finally wanted to hear from a coach wasn't We're going 158 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: to bring back the greatness of the Raiders. It was, man, 159 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: do we have a lot of work to do? And 160 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: I think what's happened since Kubiak has been brought in. 161 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Is that he and John Spytech, the head the general 162 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: manager of the Raiders, have finally acknowledged this team stinks. 163 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: And when you look at it through the lens of hey, 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: this is a multi year rebuild. What I see as 165 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: Max as twenty nine years old, and I've told you before, 166 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: as we've talked about this, even the prospect of him 167 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: being traded, I think the Raiders acknowledge that this is 168 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: a three year rebuild at least, right, so if everything 169 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: breaks right this year, this is a five or six 170 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: win football team with the quarterback that you hope is 171 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: the answer in Fernando Mendoza. And next year you hope 172 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: you get to eight or nine wins, and the year 173 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: after that you hope you're really in this pocket where 174 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: you are finally contending. That's a reasonable look at I 175 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: think what they're trying to build when you do that 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: with Max Crosby, by the time you get to the 177 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: point that you're contending, he's thirty two years old and 178 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: may or may not have as much left in the tank, 179 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: may not have I think what the Raiders did here 180 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: was they finally admitted they have looked in the mirror 181 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: and this is a three year and once you acknowledge 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: three years behind rebuild, and I know that's a long 183 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: time for everybody, but once you acknowledge three years as 184 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: a rebuild, now two first round picks this year, two 185 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: first round picks next year, and a ton of cap 186 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: space to spend, you would hope on young players that 187 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: you're going to try and develop. If those exist, it 188 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: does give you some at least idea. I think the 189 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: organization is finally looking in the mirror and saying, man, 190 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm fat, and there's nothing that's going to make me 191 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: not fat quickly. I'm just going to have to do 192 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: the right things over and over and over again for 193 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: the next couple of years to get not fat. I 194 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: think that that's a message that the Raiders are sending you, 195 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: which is, I think, honestly the right one. 196 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: Are we giving people three years to rebuild anymore? 197 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: Because it doesn't feel like that, like maybe that's something 198 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 5: that ownership says, But as somebody who covers a team 199 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,359 Speaker 5: that likes to, you know, fire people at will basically 200 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: on and I wouldn't say quite on a whim, like 201 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: there have been reasons each time somebody in Tennessee has 202 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: gotten fired. But you know, it's just kind of just 203 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: a weird carousel of who done it type of situations. 204 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: Where are you to blame for the fact that we 205 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 5: suck or is this person to blame? And you've got 206 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: people actively working against the interest of other people within 207 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 5: the building, and you create a Game and Thrones type environment. 208 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 5: I'm already reading stuff about the Raiders from Mike Silver. Now, 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: you did well on two pros when we were on 210 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: yesterday morning. By the way, we will be back on 211 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: two pros and a cup of Joe on Monday morning. 212 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: Because you just can't get enough of us around here. Apparently, 213 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: let's go. Yeah. 214 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 5: I think that in terms of Mark Davis, how do 215 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: you I don't know, do you trust him to commit 216 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: to it? 217 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: Is? 218 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 5: What is the feeling on Mark Davis's ownership Because he 219 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 5: gets good marks in the player's poll that the NFLPA does, 220 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 5: the player report cards or the team report cards. I 221 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 5: guess he typically gets good marks, but so does Amy 222 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: Adam Strunk. And that doesn't mean that they're good at 223 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 5: their respective jobs in terms of being an NFL owner 224 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 5: vision maker whose influence impacts every level of their respective organizations. 225 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: Just because you're a nice person and easy to be around. 226 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean that you tend to make good decisions. He 227 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 5: is famous for not making good decisions. 228 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: I think Mark Davis in this current since he really 229 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: became the owner, I think he's had a lot of 230 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: James Dolan like qualities to him. Remember James Dolan for 231 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: the Knicks seemed to be involved until he wasn't involved, 232 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: and then he hired Phil Jackson because Phil Jackson was 233 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: a big name and a legend that was going to 234 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: come in. Then he supposedly let Phil take over, but 235 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: Phil really wasn't all that into it, and maybe Dolan 236 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: was interfering, and we don't know. Like, I think Mark 237 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Davis is sort of that, like he wants to have 238 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: this six degrees of separation. Not my fault, guys, I 239 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: don't really know football. I just hire people that do, 240 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: and he makes bad hires repeatedly. Here's the thing, Do 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: I know if it's. 242 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: Going to work? Do I trust Mark Davis to give 243 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: it time? No? But if he doesn't, does anything change? 244 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: If they just go into this year's draft with Mark 245 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: with the things the way they've been and Max Crosby 246 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: comes out and has the greatest season of his career. 247 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: As I told you yesterday and I will remind everybody, 248 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: I watched a season a couple of years ago where 249 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Max was one of the league leaders in sacks, Josh 250 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Jacobs led the league in rushing, and Devonte Adams had 251 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: a thousand yards receiving. And in that same season where 252 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: they all three did that at once, the Raiders won 253 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: six games. So like, this team sucks, this organization sucks 254 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: every single year. The Raiders are bad. What's going to 255 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: break that? I think at some point, you gotta get 256 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: a little bit lucky. Like I don't think that the 257 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Houston Texans finally figured out how to have smart ownership 258 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: or a smart front office. I think the Houston Texans 259 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: finally got lucky in a year where they hired somebody 260 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: to become their head coach that aligned with a young 261 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: quarterback that had a historic rookie season, and everybody said, 262 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: oh my god, the Texans turned it around, right, Like 263 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: I think it's curious that Sean McDermott took over the Bills, 264 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: who at the time hadn't won anything in forever and 265 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: were dormant that it was McDermott brilliant. Was Josh Allen 266 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: a savior or did they get a little bit lucky 267 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: at the right time with all of it coming together. 268 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: I think at some point you just got a look 269 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: in the mirror and say, man, we saw and so 270 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: do I trust Mark Davis to give it three years? 271 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: No? 272 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: But I have looked at the rookie record of every 273 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: single starting quarterback that was drafted number one overall since 274 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and the only one that has had a 275 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: winning record in the rookie season as a starter was 276 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck. Every other quarterback drafted first overall has. 277 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: Had a. 278 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: Either eight hundred or five hundred record, I should say, 279 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: or less in their first year as a starter. So 280 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: what's that tell us? That tells us more than likely 281 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: the Raiders this year will be incredibly happy if they 282 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: win six or seven games, Like, that's more than likely 283 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna get the six or seven wins, and next 284 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: year you hope that six or seven becomes eight or nine, 285 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: and then you like, that's just real it. Does patients exist? 286 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: No? 287 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: But is that the real answer? Yeah? 288 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: I think I don't think there's anything the Raiders can 289 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: do at this point this season to be competitive this year. 290 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 5: As someone who covers a team, that most recently drafted 291 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: the last number one overall pick in the NFL draft. 292 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: You are adorable for thinking you're going to be able 293 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 5: to get to close to six or seven wins. You're right, 294 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: and my guy, listen, I won all the good things 295 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: in the world for my guy. 296 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: Fri Nanda Mendoza's in Indiana, Lum. 297 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: He has brought me the only source of sports happiness 298 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: that I think I've had basically since Christian Watford hit 299 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: the shot over Anthony Davis to knock off Number one Kentucky. Okay, 300 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: so I'm actively pulling for your Las Vegas Raiders. But Buddy, 301 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 5: I saw that team play and they beat the Titans 302 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 5: last year, which is not in a kind of Pelt 303 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 5: on the wall type of situation. But my god, neither 304 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: team deserved to win that game. 305 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: And that's why the Crosby tray continues to make sense. 306 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: I believe this is a long, multi year rebuild. 307 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: Now, the question is what do you do with positional 308 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: value and what positions actually can turn around a team 309 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: that sucks. 310 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: We'll answer that question for you next. 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Just 356 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: search Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart App. 357 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: I needed to go to a movie yesterday to distract 358 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: myself from Max Crosby being traded. 359 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: In the amount of text I was getting about it. 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: You raise a question. 361 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about sort of having 362 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: the understanding of where your team is. And this is 363 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: what gets kind of interesting to me because we talked 364 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: about this a little with two pros, and I went back. 365 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: And looked at it. 366 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: If you go into last season and you take a 367 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: look at the execs, coaches, and scouts that talked to 368 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler in July of twenty twenty five, they ranked 369 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the top ten edge rushers for twenty twenty five for 370 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: going into last season. Who was perceived to be the 371 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: top ten? Quickly, I'll run through some of these names. 372 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett number one didn't make the playoffs. 373 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: TJ. 374 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Watt number two didn't make the playoffs. Michael Parsons number 375 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: three didn't make the playoffs. Injury, I realized that Match 376 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Crosby number four didn't make the playoffs. Nick Bosa didn't 377 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: play enough to make any impact of the San Francisco 378 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Trey Hendrickson, now going to be a 379 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: free agent, didn't make the playoffs. Aiden Hutchinson for the 380 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: Lions didn't make the playoffs. You gotta get all the 381 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: way down to Will Anderson Junior for the Houston Texans, 382 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: who was ranked number eight coming into last year to 383 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: even find an edge rusher going into last season perceived 384 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: to be one of the best that actually made the playoffs. 385 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: This is what's wild to. 386 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Me because I get this concept book, but if your 387 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: team sucks, you need great players. The problem is so 388 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: many great edge rushers, particularly don't actually equal win. 389 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know what, dude, I'm. 390 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: Not gonna sit here and pretend the Raiders are better 391 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: without Max Crosby. I just think, did they get a 392 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: Max Crosby the entirety of his career and not win 393 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: a damn thing because one person doesn't win you football games? 394 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: Well, it's j J. 395 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: Watt without Deshaun or after Deshaun fell off, right, that's 396 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 5: just kind of what it became, or all these different 397 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, how many different TJ. Yates years 398 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 5: did we have, not Matt Cassel, who was the other one, 399 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: Matt shaub right for the Texans before. I mean, shab 400 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: had some good years, but then I think led the 401 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 5: set a record for like the most games with the 402 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 5: most consecutive games of the pick six or something ridiculous 403 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 5: once towards the tail end of his career. So yeah, 404 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 5: I mean it is it comes back down to a 405 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: team building philosophy and can one player really make a 406 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: difference in the NFL in the scope of things. 407 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a player can make a difference. 408 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: In a specific situation, But then you have to be 409 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: able to capitalize on whatever it is that player did. 410 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: Right. 411 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: If Max Crosby stripsacks a quarterback, recovers a fumble, you 412 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: still have to be able to punch it in or 413 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: put yourself in field goal position to be able to 414 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 5: capitalize on that. 415 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: Otherwise you know it's. 416 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 5: For not so for Max. He goes to a situation 417 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: where he has an offense. We'll see what happens with Lamar, right. 418 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: I mean, they've got some questions to answer in Baltimore 419 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 5: as far as are they going to be able to 420 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: get an extension done with Lamar Jackson because their cap 421 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: situation is not very favorable. 422 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: They have a lot of. 423 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: Different offensive line things to figure out at this point 424 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: in time, with their center Tyler Lindebaumer or their former 425 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: center set to make I don't know, only twenty two 426 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: million dollars on the open market this coming off season, 427 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 5: and that offensive line unit wasn't all that great to 428 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: begin with, so now you have to continue to try 429 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: and supplement that to prolong, you know, to support Lamar 430 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 5: Jackson and Derek Henry is he reaches the tail end 431 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: of his career. 432 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: I think Derek is. 433 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 5: I think Derek has two more years on an extension 434 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 5: at this point in time. But you know, at some 435 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: point it's going to have to be it's gonna have 436 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: to be a better version of what we saw last 437 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 5: year because the Ravens were not right on a number 438 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 5: of fronts. Max Crosby satisfies a huge need for them. 439 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 5: As far as a top tier pass rusher. When's the 440 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: last time they've had a pass rusher like anywhere close 441 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: to in the ballpark of Max Crosby, I can't. Suggs 442 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 5: was an incredible player, and I don't know if he's 443 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame caliber or anything like that, but Terrell 444 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: Suggs that wasn't He's not what Max Crosby is as 445 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: a player, Right, We're talking about very different things. They 446 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: always did that in terms of how they were able 447 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 5: to platoon guys at the best versions of those Ravens defenses, 448 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: and even then it was more about just suffocating you, 449 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: making you, snuffing out the run. Making the opposing offense 450 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 5: one dimensional and then you can pin your ears back 451 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: in pass rush as you see. But they've always done 452 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 5: it with like the Paul Kruegers of the world, and 453 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 5: pronell McFee and Courtney Upshell right, these are not like 454 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: top end guys that they've been able to make it work. 455 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: I know that those three names that I named are 456 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: from Raven's teams long ago, but still you understand my point. 457 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: So for Vegas now there becomes the question of all right, 458 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: you've relegated yourself to the idea that this is a 459 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: long term rebuild, and by long term we mean ballpark 460 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: three years. If John Spytech gets three years, Clint Kubiak 461 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: obviously will be starting after one year of John Spytech 462 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 5: being on the job. The second part of this is 463 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: how do you support for Nando Mendoza immediately, which there's 464 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: another Raiders transaction that we haven't gotten to just yet. 465 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: FITZI and I wonder if we should save the Geno 466 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: Smith talk for after the update, because I am very 467 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: confused by their release outright release of Geno Smith at 468 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: thirty four years old. Understanding Geno was not good last year, 469 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: but with a number one over pick coming in a 470 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 5: quarterback that you have said your intentions are not to 471 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 5: start him right away. Why the hell would you let 472 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: a quality backup quarterback who may not think he's a 473 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 5: backup quarterback, but at this point in his career should 474 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: probably be thinking that way. 475 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: Why the hell would you let Gino Smith go. 476 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: I have an answer for you. 477 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: We'll let Martin catch you up on the scoreboard first, 478 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: and then we'll figure out what exactly they're doing at 479 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: that quarterback position and if Gino has any value, what's 480 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: going on on the score. 481 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 6: So in the NBA, four minutes left in the first quarter, 482 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 6: the Pistons lead the Nets twenty three to seventeen. Four 483 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 6: minutes left the first quarter for the seventy six ers 484 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 6: and Hawks Philadelphia up twenty four to twenty Tyrese Maxi 485 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 6: with ten early points. We saw the Magic beat the 486 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: Timberwolves earlier today one nineteen to ninety two, Palo Bancaro 487 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 6: with a twenty five point fifteen rebound double double, Anthony 488 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 6: Average with thirty four points, and men's Kyleo's basketball with 489 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 6: twenty seconds left in the game, Florida by the five 490 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 6: point lead over Kentucky eighty two to seventy seven, fifth 491 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 6: ranked Gators in the lead, trying to close them out 492 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 6: with Kentucky in the second half, so I scored them 493 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: by forty five to thirty three. 494 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: We have one big. 495 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 6: Upset today with Amarquette upsetting fourth ranked Yukon sixty eight 496 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: to sixty two. 497 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: Dan Hurley getting ejected. 498 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 6: In the final second of the game after bumping into 499 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 6: a referee. In the NFL, the Packers have traded defensive 500 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 6: tackle Colby Wooden to the Colts for Zaire Franklin, the 501 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 6: linebacker who led the NFL in tackles. 502 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four. 503 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 6: The forty nine Ers and kickie kicker Eddie Pinero have 504 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: agreed to a four year deal. Connor McGovern and the 505 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 6: Bills have agreed to a four year, fifty two million 506 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 6: dollar contract thirty two over that guaranteed. The Brandon Aubrey 507 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 6: and the Cowboys not able to come to an agreement 508 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 6: on the long term deal. 509 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: So that's a free agent tender. 510 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 6: The team's gonna slap on the kicker for the twenty 511 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 6: twenty sixth league year. 512 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 4: It's five point seven million one. 513 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: If they have teams have an opportunity to offer him 514 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 6: a contract Cowboys can match it. If they don't, they'll 515 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: get a second round pick. And Rams cornerback Darius Williams 516 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 6: has retired after eight NFL seasons. 517 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: Fellas back to you. 518 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz Buck and Fitz hanging 519 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: out with the on Fox Sports Radio The Big News. 520 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: Obviously they came in last night, Max Crossby being traded 521 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: and Buck, you just raised a question about what all 522 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: that means, because we understand that the Raiders at this 523 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: point are in a complete rebuild. They now get two 524 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: first round picks this year that they have Theirs plus Baltimore's. 525 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: Baltimore's was fourteenth. They also will own two first round 526 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: picks in next year's draft, Theirs and whatever Baltimore ends 527 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: up having, which, if you're the Ravens, you believe is 528 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: now going to be a very low pick in the 529 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: first round because you believe Max is gonna make you 530 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: a super Bowl caliber defense. Understanding that you raised this 531 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: a good question here where Gino Smith is going to 532 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: be released by the team, and the question is why, 533 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: because Spytech has said that he doesn't believe a quarterbacks 534 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: should have to play right away. I don't think that 535 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: that's wrong. I just think two things here. One klik 536 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: Kobiac remember was the offensive coordinator that came into Seattle 537 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: last year and looked around and said. 538 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: Nope, we'd rather have Sam Darnold. 539 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: So now he comes over to this offense and says, nope, 540 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: have insert name of quarterback here. The other part of 541 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: it is, I think the team understands Number one, they're 542 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: not going to be particularly good, so they're not worried 543 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: about a quarterback. They can win them games. They're worried 544 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: about quarterback, they can be mentoring. I think what we're 545 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: gonna see because the Raiders have a ton of cap 546 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: space and interesting to the minutia that people don't care about. 547 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: The Raiders have a ton of obligation to spend money 548 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: to hit the salary cap floor, which has factored out 549 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: every three years, so this minutia. But they are going 550 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: to have to spend money. So now they're letting Gino walk. 551 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: What are they going to spend money on. It's not 552 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: going to be a quarterback. 553 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: I think they're going to spend a ton of money 554 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: on offensive linemen that are twenty six, twenty seven and younger. 555 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 3: So young offensive linemen, they believe that they can get 556 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: They're gonna get them all for three year contracts. They're 557 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: going to frontload those contracts, and then they're comfortable letting 558 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Geno go and bringing in Kirk if they can get 559 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: Kirk or really anybody like I think the Raiders are 560 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: telling you, we don't care if we start a backup 561 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: for half the season. We're not gonna win games anyway. 562 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: We just want to get the offensive line better for 563 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Ashton Genty and for Fernando whenever he's ready to actually 564 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: get in the game. 565 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 5: Well, it's not like Gino was winning you games. I 566 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: just why, So, why is Geno Smith not mentor type? 567 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 5: Like everything that I've heard, I mean, since you know 568 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 5: that one practice squad linebacker broke his jaw with the 569 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: Jets because Geno owed him money or something like that 570 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: one hundred years ago. Everything that we've heard and seen, 571 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: And I would defer to you again because you pay 572 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 5: far closer attention to the Las Vegas Raiders than your 573 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: average person is a fan of the team. Since when 574 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: is Geno Smith not good mentor guy? Also, since when 575 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 5: is Geno Smith good enough to win you football games? 576 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: Given what the Raiders are doing right, now with the 577 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 5: number one overall pick, Like, I don't think that Geno 578 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, at thirty four years old, is 579 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: going to turn it back on like we've already written 580 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 5: him off for once, right and with the whole you 581 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 5: know they wrote me off, I didn't write back type deal. 582 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 5: I'm not thinking. I just don't understand if if you 583 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: have somebody who can serve in that role, Like, isn't 584 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 5: it the job of the coach and the coach can 585 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: do what he wants here? Right, They're not under on 586 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 5: any obligation to keep Geno Smith, But it just seems 587 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: like change for the sake of change, because Clint Kubiak 588 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: doesn't think that Gino Smith. 589 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 4: Works for his system or whatever. I don't know. 590 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 5: That's not a good excuse to me to get rid 591 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: of a quality backup quarterback. Well, I think it's figure 592 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: it out. You're the offensive genius, Fay, you figure it out. 593 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: Well. 594 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: Number one, you want to be running the same offense 595 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: for Fernando, and you're one that you'll be running for 596 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: Fernando in year two, so you don't want to have 597 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: to make a ton of adjustments to that. But number two, 598 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Gino really wants to be somewhere where 599 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: he's about to be dead man walking. He still believes 600 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: he can be a high quality starting quarterback. He believes 601 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: he's going to go somewhere and get a three year deal. Right, 602 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure Gino wants to be around all 603 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: of that. And if he doesn't want to be around all. 604 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 5: Which is fine, by the way, Yeah, if it's if 605 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 5: it's what makes sense for both sides, then I'm you know, 606 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm making much ado about nothing. But if like Gino 607 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: wanted to stay there for the opportunity to compete, let 608 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 5: Geno Smith stay there. 609 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was a at least enough of a 610 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: rub between the fans and Gino that I don't know 611 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: that like you never listen to the fans. Take it that, 612 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: But anytime you're starting quarterbacks out here flipping off the 613 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: fans at a home game, that's just a tough look 614 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: to bring back. Sometimes for a player that's about to 615 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: just hit, you know they're going to hit a wall 616 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: of not being particularly good. And I think you're Titans Camp, 617 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: by the way, And for anyone that doesn't know Buck 618 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: covers the Titans in Nashville, I think the Titans. 619 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: Are a real reminder. 620 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: I mean, for as many times as we say this, 621 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: I'll continue to echo it. Look at the teams that 622 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: are consistently bad, consistently bad. So we're talking about the Raiders, 623 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: the Titans, the Jets, the Browns, like teams that never 624 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: win football games, over and over and over again. I 625 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: think at some point you look at it and you say, man, 626 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: what's the one thing that turns all that around? And 627 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: the real answer, for most teams, the thing that seems 628 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: to turn you around the fastest is getting it right 629 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: at the quarterback and head coach. 630 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: Combo, I don't think it's one or the other. I 631 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: think it's both. 632 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: I think you gotta have the right quarterback that speaks 633 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: the right language, for the right coach that speaks the 634 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: right language, and they got to have this like eighties 635 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: wrestling tag team duo, this sinner that works together. So 636 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: if you're the Raiders, part of what you're looking at 637 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: now is we're putting everybody on the same clock. Like 638 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: you mentioned, it's year two for Spy Tech in Vegas, 639 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: which is fair, but it's year one for Kubiak and Fernando, 640 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: which we believe is how it's going to go at 641 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: the beginning of the draft, so it's really going to 642 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: be and this is year one of spy tech having control, 643 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: because most people will tell you Pete. 644 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: Carroll had a lot of control last year. 645 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: So I think what you're seeing is a year one 646 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: movement to hear towards we don't care what the past 647 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: has been, we don't care about any of the things 648 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: that have lingered over this organization. 649 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: We're going to start fresh. I think moving Max even 650 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: is part of that. 651 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: It's just a part of cleaning house to get some 652 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: sort of freshness in the entire building. Now, that to 653 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: me is part of why I keep stressing I think 654 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: this is a multi year like. 655 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: Look. 656 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: The Patriots, I think are the outlier. The Patriots going 657 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: out spending a ton of money, having it work, playing 658 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: a really easy schedule with the coach that was managed. 659 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: They managed to come in and really get the pulse 660 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: of this thing right away with no learning curve and 661 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator that's not hirable. 662 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: Anywhere else as a head coach. And now goes back 663 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: to what he did brilliantly. 664 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Like that's all stuff that had to go on the 665 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: pot at once and come out perfectly I think most teams, 666 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: it just doesn't work that easily. 667 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: Even Washington. 668 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Washington had a one year turn right where they became 669 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: huge and then all of a sudden they sucked again. 670 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Sustainable greatness, I think for most of these bad teams, 671 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: when you've had, like the Raiders have had fifteen starting 672 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the last whatever ten years, I think it 673 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: just is going to take a full reset, repush on everything. 674 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: So there is just an element of get everybody out 675 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: the door that you think in any way, shape or 676 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: form isn't part of your future, and just start building 677 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: for three years from now. 678 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: No, I just watched the team that I covered do 679 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: the exact same thing. I mean, you know, save Jeffrey 680 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: Simmons basically, and that's because jeff is, I don't know, 681 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: twenty eight and coming off a year where he's the 682 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: best defensive tackle in football, And if you were to 683 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 5: trade jeff for draft picks, then you would have to 684 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: figure out how to replace. 685 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you your first round pick that you get back 686 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: for Jeffrey. 687 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: Could eventually become two thirds of the player that Jeffrey 688 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: Simmons is. Right now, I'm not saying that Max Crosby 689 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 5: isn't the same caliber of player. But I do think 690 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: that there's at least some logic to try and to 691 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: cash in on it. If somebody offered the Titans two 692 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: first round picks for Jeff, I have to imagine that 693 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: they would have at least had to think about it 694 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 5: a little harder. No matter how much the player continues 695 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: to bang the drum on, No, I want to be here. 696 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: I want to be here for the turnaround. 697 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: I want to help build this place back up after 698 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 5: I've you know, I was good, and they were good 699 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: for a period of time and then they've fallen on 700 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: hard times basically for the last four seasons. There is 701 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: some level of how difficult is each individual player that 702 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: we're talking about here to replace where there's just on 703 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 5: a roster with not that many good football players, whether 704 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: you're talking about the Raiders of the Titans or any 705 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 5: of these teams who are in this situation. 706 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: And that's why, like the honest rebuild answer for most 707 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: teams is just you got to hit it right in 708 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: the draft over and over, Like when's the last time 709 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: you saw the Titans and you finished the draft coverage 710 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: that we all have to do right, You finished the 711 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: draft coverage and you said, my god, what a home 712 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: run draft for the. 713 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: Titans twenty nineteen. Okay, and Jeffers Simmons, AJ Brown. They 714 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: drafted a guard that ended up starting for them in 715 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 5: the third round of money Hooker's starting safety still here. 716 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: Like they hit on every pick but one. He was 717 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: a pass rusher out of Georgia and I can't remember 718 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: his name. 719 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: Right when it's been that many years now, we have 720 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: such a like that's the realist indicator of why the 721 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: Titans suck, if you just start stacking, like, look, the 722 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: Browns last year had an epic draft. The Browns had 723 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: a Hall of It. This's what I constantly tell people. 724 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: A former GM told me years. 725 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: Ago that a home run Hall of Fame caliber draft 726 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: is getting five or six quality news starters on your team. 727 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: Five or six that's a oh my god offseason, as 728 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: off season a whole, not a draft and an off season. 729 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: So between the free agency and the draft, five or 730 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: six high quality starters is a Hall of Fame offseason. 731 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: Now ask yourself, like, look at your favorite team and 732 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: ask yourself, how many players starting from my favorite team 733 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: would actually start on a playoff team. 734 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: I do this exercise all the time. If you look 735 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: at the Raiders as a Raiders fan, if I had 736 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: to ask myself how many of these players would actually. 737 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: Start on an elite football team, the answer to that 738 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: now is maybe Ashton gent Brock, Powers, maybe Colton Miller 739 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: maybe so like three, three at the most. So that 740 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: means my favorite team needs nineteen new starters. If six 741 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: new starters is a Hall of Fame level offseason, that 742 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: tells you that my front office of my favorite team 743 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: would have to put together three straight Hall of Fame 744 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: level off seasons just to make my team competitive. 745 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: That's why most teams that suck continually suck, because it's 746 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: just a long process of getting everything right over and 747 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: over and over again, and nobody can no It's. 748 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: It's completely fair. I think. I think that you have 749 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: the right mindset. 750 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: You have come you have come to terms with the 751 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: situation that your favorite football team is getting ready to 752 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: put you through yet again. I just hated for Raiders 753 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: fans because it feels like they are doing this, you know, 754 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 5: with regular ready basically the last two decades. 755 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: This is the bad teams in the NFL do this 756 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: all the time, all right, from the from the from 757 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: the drama on the field, do the drama off the field. 758 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: Somebody got hacked and Instagram may never be the same. 759 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: Because of it. We'll tell you about it next. He's 760 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. 761 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 762 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Bucking Fits hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. 763 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. We'll get you updated 764 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: on some big college basketball going down in just a 765 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 2: few minutes. But, uh, we got hacking? Do we we 766 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: have hacking? Maybe we have some interesting social media going on, Buck. 767 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: And this one comes in the form of, like, let 768 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: us all be this lucky. Let us all be so 769 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: lucky in our lives that if we're ever unlucky enough 770 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: to get hacked, that when we get hacked, it's absolutely 771 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: going to be the best, nicest, most glowing moment you've 772 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: ever seen. Because Rashaun Kerry NFL player went to social media, 773 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: at least it appeared on Instagram for a very thoughtful 774 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: What appeared on Instagram, Like I had a picture of 775 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 2: him as a player and his goodbye statement to the Packers, 776 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: like it was a beautifully written I'm out, thank you 777 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: for my time statement that went to Instagram and then 778 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: was deleted shortly after, only to then have Rashan turn 779 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: around and tell. 780 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: Everybody he was hacked. 781 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: Like buck I cannot imagine that I finally get the 782 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: pass code to hock it and to hack it to 783 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Buck Rising's Instagram account, and what I do is I 784 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: go to it and I don't, like, I don't slide 785 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: into anybody's DMS. 786 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't go out there. 787 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: I don't, you know, photoshop you in a robe and 788 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: put it out there for the world to see. 789 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: No, insteadir e fact. 790 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: Instead no, I write a heartfelt thank you and put 791 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: up a glowing picture of you, like what a. 792 00:34:59,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: Way to be. 793 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: Well the last I mean, there have obviously been situations 794 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 5: where an athlete or somebody of some level of import 795 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 5: has said they've been hacked when something on their social 796 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 5: media has gone awry. But the last one that I remember, 797 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 5: like at least in the world of the NFL, of note, 798 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: was Laramie Tunsel. You remember how crazy that was on 799 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 5: Draft night where somebody posted a picture of him in 800 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 5: that weed gas mask on Draft night and then, if 801 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, also posted text conversations between I want 802 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 5: to say it was his father in Hugh Freeze about 803 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 5: you know, some at the time before name, image and 804 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: likeness was put into place, some improper benefits type of 805 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 5: situation like actively trying to undermine this person, and that 806 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: you know that was of a very nefarious nature and 807 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 5: did cause him to drop on draft night. But Rashan 808 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: Gary's situation, there was some reason to believe that the 809 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 5: Packers could do it because if my math is right, 810 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 5: they could save eleven million dollars if they were to 811 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: move on from Rashaun Gary. 812 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 4: And he's twenty eight years old. 813 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 5: He's been the subject of trade talks for a while 814 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 5: according to a lot of the league insiders, and there 815 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: would be a sizable amount of dead money if they 816 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 5: were to move him at this point in time. But like, 817 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 5: this is a good player. Was I think a lot 818 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 5: of people were surprised to see the news. In fact, 819 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: we were talking about it on the local show and 820 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 5: again to remind people that I covered the Tennessee Titans 821 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 5: who were in need of a pass rusher this offseason, 822 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: I said, he immediately jumps to the top of my 823 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 5: list in terms of free agent players that I would want. 824 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 5: And how much better does the free agency pool look 825 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 5: after some of these cap casualties than it did after 826 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 5: we got through the first round of franchise tag stuff 827 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 5: and things of that nature. Right that it raised the 828 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 5: profile of the players that were going to be available immediately, 829 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 5: and I thought that Rashan Gary should. 830 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 4: Be at the top of many teams lists. 831 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 5: And then for that it was leaked or not leaked, 832 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: but given to a lot of different people, both Green 833 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 5: Bay media and national insiders that his instagram was hacked. 834 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 5: But like, who is going to take the time to 835 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 5: come up with a thoughtful goodbye post from Rashan Gary 836 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 5: on his own Instagram? That's what I'm saying. Like it was, 837 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 5: there was nothing inflammatory about it. There was nothing you know, 838 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 5: that would do something to to troll or cause harm 839 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: to the reputation or the image of Rashon Gary. 840 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: No, it's just a it's a good bipost. So he 841 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: had one. I don't we we don't have like a sound. 842 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: Or imaging to connote reckless speculation on my part, But 843 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 5: let me just say that I'm going to recklessly speculate 844 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: and say that he fired off a post that he 845 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 5: then was informed No, this is not the direction that 846 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 5: we're heading with you bud, you may want to take 847 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 5: that down. 848 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: And then instead of saying yeah, my bad, my bad, guys, 849 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: that one's on. 850 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 5: Me, little little little trigger happy there, he decided to 851 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: go with the narrative that even if you did get hacked, 852 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 5: nobody's gonna believe you, right, Like, we've had too many 853 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 5: people cry wolf on the hacked thing at this point 854 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 5: to actually buy off on somebody getting hacked. 855 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: Like, if somebody's gonna get hacked, I would think it 856 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: would look a lot more like Ryan Rossilo's Instagram looked 857 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Then it would with Rashan coming 858 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: into it, like and and I don't even know if 859 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: Racillo got hacked, Like I think when I think, when 860 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: I think hacked, I think something just eye opening where 861 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: you look at it, You're like, IM, that's I'm just saying, 862 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 2: like a thoughtful, well worded thank you to the city 863 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 2: that drafted you with an on to my next adventure 864 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: sort of thing. To me, I immediately read as the 865 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: team told his agent, Hey, if we can't get this reworked, 866 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: if we can't figure out some money stuff, we're gonna 867 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: cut you or we're gonna trade you. And then he 868 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: puts that out and all of a sudden, then the 869 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: phone start ringing. They're like, well, wait a minute, don't 870 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: don't cut him. 871 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: We can give you some trade value, like if he 872 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: gets traded over the course of the next several days. 873 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 3: It still screams to me that he was telling us 874 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 3: all what the plan was before the plan was. 875 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 2: Actually the plan, right, Like it's just what a dreamy 876 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: situation to be in Buck, where it's like, oh, I. 877 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: Got hacked, but you know what, it's okay. 878 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: I got hacked by somebody that wanted to make sure 879 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: I look like just a great overall dude. 880 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: Like I love the idea of Buck going into my 881 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: Instagram to hack it and then be like, you know 882 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 3: what I want to do. 883 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: I want to make sure he looks like he's an 884 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: awesome guy that has his stuff together all the right things. 885 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: That's never never ever gonna happen. 886 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 887 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: All right, it's a big day in college basketball for 888 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: two teams, and one coach will tell you about it. 889 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: Next. Buck Rising Jason fitzbucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. 890 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 891 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: Usually when we're sitting on our day like today where 892 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: you have Duke North Carolina it's all anybody's thinking about. 893 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: It's all anybody's talking about. You spend a. 894 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: Week hearing about the matchup, you spend a week hearing 895 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: about rivalry, reminded that it's the greatest rivalry in college 896 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: basketball and one of the greatest rivalries in sports. 897 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: And now, even as we sit here with the. 898 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: Game going on, Duke ranked number one North Carolina, a 899 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: top twenty team trying to sweep the Blue Devils, it 900 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: just feels like some of the magic maybe isn't there. 901 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: Bucking Fitz, Buck Rising, Jason fitz hanging out with you 902 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 903 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: And Buck, I don't know what it is because you 904 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 3: and I talk a lot about the fact that we 905 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 3: love college basketball. 906 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: This has been a big Saturday. We'll get to Hurley 907 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: in just a second. This has been a big Saturday 908 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: for college basketball in general, and seeding is just going 909 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: to be wild. There is actually something on the line 910 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: in this Duke North Carolina game above beyond just the 911 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 2: bragging rights of Duke North North Carolina. Duke is trying 912 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: to secure the number one overall seed in a year 913 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: the tournament that looks wild. They're the number one team 914 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: in the land and it's a weirdly quiet number one 915 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: for Duke, and they're taking on a North Carolina team 916 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: that certainly wants to try and play their way up 917 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 2: into the three seed four seed range and not find 918 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: themselves in the five seed range. 919 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: So, like there's a lot on the line. 920 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: For this and I just don't feel like it has 921 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 2: the same level of sizzle if I lost my mind. 922 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 923 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 5: I mean, if you talk to anybody who's following college 924 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 5: basketball even since the NFL season ended, right, Duke North 925 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 5: Carolina is always going to have some level of hatred. 926 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 5: And maybe it's just because there are a lot of 927 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 5: Duke and North Carolina basketball fans just in the general populace, 928 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 5: whether they're from or went to either of these institutions, Like, 929 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 5: there are enough people that have a rooting interest in 930 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 5: this game. Whether you consider that to be you know, 931 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 5: real fandom or not. You know, that's a different conversation 932 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 5: for another day. 933 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 4: I feel like in my part of the world, here. 934 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: In the Southeast, I feel like there's been plenty of dialogue, 935 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 5: plenty of interest about this game, especially to see how 936 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 5: North Carolina continues to try and do this without Caleb Wilson. 937 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 5: So to prior to today's game. Tonight's game, he had 938 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 5: missed the previous six. He's now been ruled out for 939 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 5: the season. Their star freshman, he's going to have surgery 940 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 5: on Or has already had the surgery on a broken 941 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 5: right thumb that he has sustained during a practice. So 942 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 5: they have been without him since February tenth. They are 943 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: going to try and put up a fight at Cameron Indoor. 944 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 5: Are putting up a fight against Duke at Cameron Indoor. Duke, 945 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you can't beat Michigan the way that they 946 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 5: did on a neutral court in Washington a couple of 947 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 5: weekends ago and be a quiet. 948 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 4: One seed fits. I'm just going to disagree with you there. 949 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: It's maybe it's just because not one. 950 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 4: Seed but number one overall team. 951 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I'm so used to just the vitual 952 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: that comes to Duke and between the players. Understanding the 953 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: players don't play for four years anymore, so the ability 954 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: to fall in hate instead of fall in love with 955 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: guys like Christian Laitner or JJ Reddick seems it seems 956 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 2: a little different right now. I think maybe it's just 957 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 2: because I'm used to people having such fiery opinion about 958 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 2: duke one way or the other. And this duke team 959 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: is I think you and I have discussed a little bit, 960 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: is almost likable. Like John Shire's ability to just step 961 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: in and take over for Coach K has taken some 962 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: of the edge of hatred, it feels like for some 963 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: people off And maybe that's in fairness because I'm living, 964 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: you know, twenty minutes from Yukon, which has become the 965 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 2: new villain in college basketball, and Danny Hurley certainly didn't 966 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 2: do anything to help himself in that conversation today. So 967 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 2: maybe because I feel the sort of way that Hurley 968 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 2: is perceived in Yukon is perceived, maybe it feels like I'm. 969 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: In that bubble. 970 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: I just feel like usually when we start talking about 971 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 2: duke number one duke, there is just such a loud 972 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 2: conversation about it, and you know, I don't know if 973 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: it's a sports calendar. I don't know if it's if 974 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: it's all these things combined. Maybe it's just maybe I'm 975 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 2: just lost on it. I just feel like a Coach 976 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: K team that had your usual duke villains, that was 977 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: number one in the land taking on Yukon would have 978 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: been just this explosive. It'd be this explosive thing that 979 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 2: we're talking about going into the tournament. And certainly even 980 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: when took down Michigan whatever that was last week, watching 981 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: that game, it felt like most people believed Michigan would 982 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: win that game. There wasn't this big like Duke moment, 983 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: even for them ascending to number one. 984 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 3: There wasn't a man, we all got it wrong with Duke. 985 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: Like, it just feels like Duke is just a normal 986 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: basketball team this year, which is fine for any of 987 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: the brand. 988 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 3: This is not what I'm used to for Duke. 989 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you and I touched on this on Monday. 990 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 5: For people who didn't hear it on two Pros and 991 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 5: a Cupature when Fitzy and I were filling in, well, 992 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 5: I guess that was just yesterday morning, and then we'll 993 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 5: be back on on Monday morning for those of you 994 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 5: who want to hang out with us again for a 995 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 5: couple hours in the morning and you drive. I think 996 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 5: that in the absence like not every Duke team has 997 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 5: had a villain player, right, so when they did not 998 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 5: have villain players, who was the villain? Ssski? Well, there's 999 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 5: plenty of people who don't like Czski. No matter, especially 1000 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 5: when you when you win at the rate that Duke 1001 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 5: and Coach K did. When you have the level of success, 1002 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 5: it's hard for you to be viewed favorably. And then 1003 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 5: you know, Coach K has some personality stuff that rubs 1004 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 5: people the wrong way in certain moments, especially North Carolina fans. 1005 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 5: Shire hasn't really had that. I think there was among them. 1006 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 5: There was a disgruntled North Carolina fan in our building 1007 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 5: on Friday that brought up to me the different ways 1008 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 5: that he has found to hate John Shire, which I 1009 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 5: think to be you know, kind of difficult and trying 1010 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 5: to manifest things. I guess there was a court storming situation. 1011 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 5: There was a court storming situation. 1012 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 3: In North Carolina. His coach got punched, right. 1013 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and people are looking for you know, there's 1014 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 5: cameras everywhere, right, there's phones everywhere, phones with high quality 1015 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 5: cameras and things like that. Nobody can find evidence, apparently, 1016 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 5: according to the North the disgruntled North Carolina fan of 1017 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 5: this thing actually happening. So it's just he's just sitting there, 1018 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 5: you know, huffing and puffing on. John Shire's just making 1019 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 5: us up this cent and again it's like, okay, now 1020 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 5: you guys are just looking for things to try and 1021 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 5: hate this, and I'm fine with it because I think 1022 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 5: hate is good in sports. I love when there is hatred, 1023 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 5: legitimate hatred and rivalries. Obviously not advocating for like or 1024 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 5: that kind of that kind of stuff, but you know, 1025 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 5: I hate Perdue, I hate Kentucky. Those are Indiana basketballs, 1026 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 5: I mean, theoretically greatest rivals, but Indiana basketball hasn't been 1027 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 5: good enough to have rivalries against either of those programs 1028 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 5: in the last couple of years. So you know, you 1029 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 5: get to a certain point with those kind of teams 1030 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 5: where those rivalries lose juice if one side of the 1031 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 5: rivalry isn't doing their job. But in this particular case, 1032 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 5: if Duke wins the national championship next year and John 1033 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 5: Shire and all these different players that you're talking about, 1034 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 5: Boozer and people that you know, people that are looked 1035 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 5: at differently than previous years in the history of this program, 1036 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 5: if they win the national championship, people will be gunning 1037 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 5: for People will find ways to hate them. John Shiro 1038 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 5: will continue to be covered heavily. Not like there's a 1039 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 5: lack of media coverage for Duke basketball at any point 1040 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 5: and no matter who the coaches. But yeah, I mean, 1041 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 5: if they're in the spotlight long enough, people will start 1042 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 5: to hate them. They just haven't really been in the 1043 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 5: spotlight like that just yet. This is their moment. Now 1044 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 5: we all just sit around and wait for their villain 1045 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 5: turn at some point. 1046 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right about that, that every moment 1047 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: of greatness is met with the villain turn, which Yukon 1048 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: has felt. 1049 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: We mentioned Dan Hurley. He was ejected with less. 1050 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 2: Than a second left. They then put a second back 1051 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: on the clock in a loss. Huskies lose sixty eight 1052 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: sixty two to Marquette. Now a little context here. It 1053 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: was a one bucket game. It was right down to 1054 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: the wire. There was an opportunity for Yukon to tie it. 1055 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: There was a drive to the lane. No foul was called, 1056 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: and Hurley hated it. Hurley absolutely, he believed that Silas 1057 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 3: Tamari was fouled. He hated it, and he got right 1058 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 3: in the official's face. And at least it looked like 1059 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 3: on the review that he bumped into the official. 1060 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: He says he never bumped into him. The replay seemed 1061 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: to be a little bit questionable. It looks like he 1062 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: bumped into him from some of the screenshots. Hurley, of course, 1063 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: responding to that, said quote, you could screenshot whatever you 1064 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 2: want a screenshot. 1065 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I made any con with John. 1066 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 3: I don't believe I did. This is the usual, Like 1067 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 3: I mean, you will talk about heros in villains. There's 1068 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: no doubt that Hurley obviously loves being the villain for Yukon. 1069 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: It's exhausting. It just wears me out. I'm so tired 1070 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: of it. It didn't help his team. 1071 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: A technical was called on him in that process that 1072 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: obviously they were going to lose the game either way. 1073 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 2: But I love that even in that moment afterwards, there 1074 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 2: wasn't I need to be better, I need to control 1075 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 2: my temper better. 1076 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 4: No. 1077 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: His first thing to say is, you can screenshot whatever 1078 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 3: you wants screenshot. I don't make any contact with John. 1079 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 3: Like he's just curly being the petulant child that he is. 1080 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 4: I enjoy it, I really do. 1081 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 5: Like. I love the way that he goes at refs. 1082 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 5: I love the way that he you know, I enjoy 1083 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 5: the sideline antics. Now if he was doing it in 1084 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 5: a game against the team that I root for, maybe 1085 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 5: I would feel a little less and obviously if he's 1086 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 5: doing it's it's far easier to look at him and 1087 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 5: say petulant child when he's losing as a higher seed 1088 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 5: where Marquette upsets them as the number four seed in 1089 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 5: the Big East regular season. 1090 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 4: Finale, So uh they are? 1091 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 5: I keep saying seed ranked team number four ranked, Yukon. 1092 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 5: Not a great way to end the season heading into 1093 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 5: conference tournament play, which is gonna be a lot of 1094 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 5: fun in a couple of different conferences. I don't know 1095 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 5: what it's gonna look like down here in Nashville for 1096 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 5: the SEC tournament. I'm gonna be doing my show locally 1097 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 5: here from that all through I guess Wednesday through Friday, 1098 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 5: in the middle of free agency. It's going to be 1099 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 5: a bit chaotic. But I don't know. I mean, Hurley, 1100 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 5: do you do you want him to be? 1101 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 4: Do we want people to be conciliatory? Conciliatory? Like? 1102 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 5: What do you as a fan gain from seeing a 1103 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 5: humbled and you know, hat in hand if he wore 1104 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,439 Speaker 5: hats Danny Hurley, Like, I don't. I don't think that 1105 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 5: that's that's who you want that guy to be? 1106 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 4: Right? 1107 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 5: There have to be villains in sports, don't There for 1108 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 5: the for for there to be the kind of emotion 1109 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 5: that's required. It can't all be happy, feel good, sportsmanship, 1110 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 5: all these different things. And I'm not saying the lack 1111 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 5: sportsmanship or anything like that. I don't think this is 1112 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 5: a moment that lacks sportsmanship. I think he probably I mean, 1113 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 5: in an honest moment. If if after he cools down 1114 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 5: a little bit, does he think, you know, differently of 1115 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 5: the situation after the factor, Maybe somebody shows him something 1116 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 5: that it's a different angle than what he thinks in 1117 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 5: real time, and maybe he changes his tune the next 1118 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 5: time he's in front. 1119 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 4: Of the media. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't. I don't. 1120 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 5: I don't really want him humble. I don't want to 1121 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 5: humble Danny Hurley like that. That sucks. I want him loud, 1122 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 5: I want him petulant. I want him screaming at people. 1123 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 5: I want somebody in sports that gives it a little 1124 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 5: extra juice. And he does that. He fills that role. 1125 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 5: He plays that role as well as anybody on any 1126 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 5: sideline in America, regardless of sports. 1127 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Fine, but then don't act like you 1128 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 3: are just the victim. This man acts like he is 1129 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 3: the one. 1130 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 5: He is in the middle of it, in the heat 1131 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 5: of the moment, though, like when all of these things happen, 1132 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 5: I hate postgame immediate post press conferences. Okay, and you 1133 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 5: know NFL is different than in college basketball, is different 1134 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 5: than NBA whatever, But like I hate postgame press conferences 1135 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 5: as somebody who regularly does postgame press conferences, because I'm 1136 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 5: asking a coach about stuff they haven't seen or stuff 1137 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 5: they don't have access to when I have seven thousand 1138 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 5: different angles of things and much better perspective on it, 1139 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 5: and they don't have those perspectives or those different points 1140 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 5: of view until the Monday when we do the recap 1141 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 5: press conference. Like, the postgame press conference is one of 1142 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 5: the most fundamentally useless things in the world. Other than 1143 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 5: there's there does tend to be a little bit more 1144 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 5: raw emotion if he thinks that something happened in game 1145 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 5: or didn't happen in game, that you know, after the fact, 1146 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 5: he realizes, oh, yeah, I was just caught up. There's 1147 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 5: a million things flying around me at that point in time, 1148 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 5: and I did the thing that I said I didn't do. 1149 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at Danny Hurley about that, no. 1150 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 2: But the next time I hear Danny Hurley issue an 1151 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 2: apology in front of a microphone will be the first 1152 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: time I've heard Danny Hurley issue an apology in front 1153 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 2: of a microphone. And even in this instance, when they 1154 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: were asked if he expected to be suspended, he said no, 1155 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 2: he didn't make contact, and then said, I've been ejected before. 1156 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 2: I've I've been back out there. It's not my first rodeo. 1157 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: That's the problem. Like, no matter how many times they 1158 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: eject him, no matter how many things he screams, no 1159 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 2: matter how much he cries over and over and over 1160 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 2: again to everybody that will possibly listen, he just keeps 1161 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: coming back and doing it, and we let him get 1162 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 2: away with the The man makes eight point three million dollars 1163 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: per year. He is the highest paid educator in the 1164 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: state of Connecticut. We can argue all day long how 1165 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: much educating he's actually doing. All I'm saying is that 1166 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 2: if you stand up in front of a team of 1167 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: college athletes and tell them that they need to act 1168 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: a certain way because they have Yukon on their chest, 1169 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: then you need to do the same damn thing when 1170 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: you are the head coach of that basketball team. And 1171 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying that knowing full well that we are on 1172 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 2: in Hartford. One of our affiliates is on in Hartford. 1173 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 2: I live twenty minutes from this. Every time I say 1174 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 2: something about Yukon, somebody tweets me with you don't really understand. 1175 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 4: Now. 1176 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 2: I understand better than everybody because I listen to this 1177 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 2: jackass over and over and over again every single week 1178 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 2: act exactly like this. It's exhausting. The whole world doesn't 1179 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 2: have it out for you, and if they do, you 1180 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: might want to look in the mirror and figure out 1181 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 2: why you're part of the problem, because you are part 1182 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 2: of the problem. Like I get it. Heroes and villains 1183 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 2: are good for sports, and it's good for what we do. 1184 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: It's just exhausting listening to It's like listening to my 1185 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: passive aggressive mom every time she wants to be passive aggressive. 1186 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 2: Just say we do damn chest Pam, Just say it, 1187 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 2: we do chest Hurley all right, like and say it 1188 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 2: once and then move on. 1189 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 3: Good God, Like the guy just wears me out. 1190 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 1191 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 3: I love Yukon basketball. Living in this neighborhood, it's great. 1192 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 3: Hurley is just too much. He's buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. 1193 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: Now that I've equated a very successful basketball coach to 1194 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: might not so successful Mom, Yes, go ahead. 1195 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 4: Buck Well. 1196 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 5: I was just going to say, I don't know how 1197 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 5: many more comedically better names you could have used than Pam. 1198 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 5: And what I will tell you with my chest is 1199 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 5: that the best pregame show every weekend is on Fox 1200 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 5: Sports Radio. They're Countdown presented by Bett MGM every Saturday 1201 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 5: and say morning from nine am to noon Eastern six 1202 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 5: to nine am Pacific, we will count you down to 1203 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 5: all the biggest games of the weekend. Tune into Countdown 1204 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 5: presented by Bad MGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning right 1205 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 5: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart app. 1206 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 2: We spent so much time talking about the Max Crosby trade, 1207 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 2: but there have been two other very significant trades this 1208 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: weekend so far in the NFL. In the last couple 1209 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 2: of days. We'll break down what they actually mean for 1210 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contenders when we come back. Bucking Fits on 1211 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Still haven't talked him into frozen grapes. 1212 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 2: Frozen grapes are delicious? Why are we being fined? How 1213 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: am I possibly being fine? 1214 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,479 Speaker 4: Uh? Not way, sweetheart, That's all. 1215 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 3: Mine being fined for? What am I being fined for? 1216 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 3: Frozen marriage? 1217 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,439 Speaker 4: Tell him what you just told me before you turned 1218 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: on microphones. 1219 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1220 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 6: My thing is, every time I hear these rejoins, I 1221 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 6: just hear something new to hate on. 1222 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 3: And I finally caught the Porsche controlled part. I don't 1223 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 3: know why I never heard that part till now. Yeah, 1224 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 3: portion control, because I'm not a monster here. I'm measure 1225 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: my macros. I measure my macros here. No it's not 1226 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 3: I'm disciplined. I am disciplined. I am trying to get 1227 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 3: my abs to have abs. 1228 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: I can't just go willy nilly when I've got you know, 1229 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 2: twenty milligrams and edibles in my system. If I don't 1230 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: have these Porscha controlled, I'm gonna eat the entire bag 1231 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 2: of grapes the next day. 1232 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: Porsa controlled. 1233 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1234 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I pre measure my grapes, pre measure my grapes, 1235 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 2: put them in a little baggies, pre measured when I 1236 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: freeze them. 1237 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 3: That is that way. I just go in, I pull 1238 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 3: out a little baggy, pull out a little. 1239 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: Baggy of snacks, and I know that I will not 1240 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: over indulge, like I know right now that I have 1241 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven. 1242 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 3: Calories left for the day. 1243 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to enjoy those with a rice crispy treat 1244 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: and a few frozen grapes. 1245 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 3: That's That's what that's called. Discipline. People. 1246 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 5: My fat ass just got up in the middle of 1247 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 5: that commercial break, walk to the vending machine and got 1248 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 5: a snickers. 1249 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what kind of you know? 1250 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 5: The beautiful part of this is I will let you 1251 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 5: get to whatever you want to get to here in 1252 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 5: just a second, FITZI I uh am supposed to be 1253 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 5: the show. Okay, like this is, and it's not just 1254 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 5: not supposed to be. I am okay like that is 1255 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 5: a title that I've had my entire life. I'm a snob. 1256 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm the latest, and I'm good with it. Like self 1257 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 5: awareness is key. The best advice I've ever been given 1258 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 5: in any in any facet of life is the sooner 1259 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 5: that you could admit you're a d bag, the easier 1260 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 5: life becomes. 1261 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 4: And I know that I am okay and it's freeing. 1262 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 4: I love it. 1263 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 5: It makes me very very happy, and I'm happy to 1264 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 5: tell anybody that I come across, Yes, I'm that guy, 1265 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 5: except when I sit across from you. Okay, because you 1266 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 5: you are under some kind of impression that you are 1267 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 5: not equally as snooty as I am. But the person 1268 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 5: who talks publicly about counting their macros and how many 1269 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 5: calories they have for the rest of the day and 1270 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,919 Speaker 5: portion controlled and all these things, it's okay to do them. 1271 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 4: We don't have to hear about it. It's okay. 1272 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 5: Also, how many you you say abs on top of 1273 00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 5: your wraps, how many abs you have? 1274 00:56:59,840 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 4: Right? 1275 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 3: I got one? I've got one? 1276 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 4: App is like a weird growth. 1277 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the funny thing. 1278 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 2: Is like, like, I've worked my ass off tiressly for 1279 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 2: two years at this point, almost two years. May seventeenth 1280 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 2: will be two years of absolute dedication and work. 1281 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 3: And if we if Buck and I walked in together, 1282 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 3: nobody would. 1283 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 2: Be like, oh yeah, one of these guys is a sacrificing 1284 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: and the other guy isn't. 1285 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 3: Like I completely acknowledge this. I am trying so hard. 1286 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 3: But when you get you know, I mean, come on, man, 1287 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna be for what it's worth. I'm gonna 1288 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 3: be forty nine in a couple of months. I gets 1289 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 3: tougher at my age, am to just to cut these things. 1290 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: I know I look good for my age. I'm not 1291 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 3: gonna lie about that. 1292 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: But like it gets tougher and tougher as you get 1293 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 2: to this pot to see and like I keep thinking 1294 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be happy with wherever I end up, 1295 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: and then. 1296 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: Wherever I end up, I don't quite have the apps 1297 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 3: and want yet. No, I'm just done. I set out 1298 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 3: for a goal. 1299 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm very goal oriented book, so if my goal is 1300 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 2: to get ABS, I refuse to stop short of that. 1301 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: But I may at some point soon have to give up. 1302 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: I may just have to decide that God looked at 1303 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: me and said, not you've that, Jesus, you don't get 1304 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: the apps, like I will say, though, I saw I 1305 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 2: saw somebodies from ESPN the other day at a minor 1306 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 2: league hockey game, and I haven't seen some of them 1307 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: in several years. 1308 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 3: And the first thing that a couple of them said is, 1309 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 3: oh my god, you got Jack, dude. This is the 1310 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 3: best thing you could tell me. 1311 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 2: Is because at least like people notice some small difference 1312 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 2: when I haven't seen them in a minute. 1313 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you buck, like I really do. Like 1314 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 3: it's it's a nightmare. If I walk into a room 1315 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 3: and I see people haven't seen for years, and nobody says, wow, God, 1316 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: have you been in the gym? Like at this point, 1317 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 3: if that doesn't happen, I might as well just crawl 1318 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: into my bed and sleep for three days because I'm 1319 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 3: just sad. 1320 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 5: When's the last time you and I have been in 1321 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 5: the same place in person? Was that Super Bowl? Two 1322 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 5: super bowls ago in New Orleans? 1323 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 3: New Orleans? 1324 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 4: Was last year? 1325 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 3: Not this super Bowl? But yeah, yeah super bowls A. 1326 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, okay, So the when when we all get 1327 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 5: together as a show in LA, because I'm going to 1328 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 5: be in LA at whatever point the NFL puts out 1329 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 5: the schedule for the year. The Titans will play at 1330 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 5: Los Angeles this year. So we're gonna make FITZI schlept 1331 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 5: from Connecticut to Los Angeles so we can all be together. 1332 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 5: We have to the three of us, Ian and Mary 1333 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 5: and myself. We all have to commit to the bit 1334 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 5: that none of us will compliment Jackson fits on his 1335 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 5: physical appearance. 1336 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 3: You know what, here's the thing. 1337 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: By the time, now that I have that date, like 1338 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: my guy Jeff always asked me to give him important 1339 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 2: dates on the calendar, Like I just gave him a 1340 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 2: birthday is an important date like dates I want to 1341 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 2: look good right Like for me, I'm gonna circle that 1342 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: date and I'm gonna tell him, look, I don't care 1343 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: what you have to do. 1344 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: I don't care what kind of shape you have to 1345 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 3: put me in. 1346 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 2: And then you're not gonna have a choice put to 1347 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 2: say anything, because I ain't gonna wear a shirt like 1348 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk. 1349 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 3: In and there will be no shirt at all. 1350 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 2: And let me tell you something, I'm gonna be waxed, 1351 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 2: like you'll be able to eat putting off of me 1352 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: and not get a hair like. It's gonna make make 1353 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 2: sure that literally every portion of upper body as far 1354 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: as you there will not be in out. There will 1355 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 2: be no hair anywhere, like if I got to get 1356 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 2: a lasered off. I'm gonna make sure that every app 1357 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 2: has the chance to ripple through. 1358 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 3: And all you're gonna think. 1359 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: The whole time is God, that's a lot of nipple, 1360 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 2: Like there's just no there will. 1361 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 3: Be no hair. What is happening right now? 1362 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 5: The first thing I'm gonna say to you is you 1363 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 5: look like a forty nine year old naked mole. 1364 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 4: Rat Martin, give. 1365 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 9: Us some updates, all right, McDuffie trade, Oh yeah, oh yeah, 1366 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 9: my amend you disgust me? 1367 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 3: My god, that really though, Martin, If you want to 1368 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 3: give us the scores, you can. 1369 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I just got to say the score right now, 1370 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 6: buck one fits none a man, I mean, what are 1371 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 6: we doing? 1372 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 4: A man? 1373 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Go all right? 1374 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 5: And that's and that's all. That's an all time score, 1375 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 5: like all time quarterback. 1376 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 4: That's that's it. 1377 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 5: I'm all time undefeated. LeVar Ball never lost a right, 1378 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 5: you definitely took the dub in that segment. 1379 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm getting so much waxing done before we see each 1380 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: other in the falls. 1381 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to eat a bathroom body works candle. It's 1382 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 2: gonna be all waxed. 1383 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 10: Drop to drop, all right, Nobody wants to eat pudding 1384 01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 10: off you. 1385 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 3: We're just gonna pull that audio. It's ago you region. 1386 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: You sure don't want to eat putting off me, nobody. 1387 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 3: There's somebody out there. It's ready for body pudding. I'm 1388 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 3: telling you. Are you so listening? Are you as that 1389 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 3: was going on here? Are you right now? Spernero is going. 1390 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 5: To text us and say you're never getting in front 1391 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 5: of microphones ever again? 1392 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 3: Good thing? This is radio. I mean this was he 1393 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 3: had to blur this out on TV. 1394 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 6: I said, forty five left in the third quarter of 1395 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 6: the Pistons lead the Nets sixty seven to forty eight, 1396 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 6: the seventy six and Hawks and a tight one Atlanta 1397 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 6: with seventy nine to seventy seven lead Tyrese Maxie with 1398 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 6: twenty two points, Jalen Johnson matching him with twenty two himself. 1399 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 6: The Magic Lead beat the Timberwolves one, nineteen to ninety two, 1400 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 6: Palo Bancaro with twenty five points and fifteen rebounds. Anthony 1401 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 6: Edwards had thirty four points, and college basketball had a 1402 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 6: major upset. Marquette beat the fourth length Yukon Husky's sixty 1403 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 6: eight to sixty two, Dan Hurley getting ejected in the 1404 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 6: final second of the game for bumping into an official. 1405 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 6: The Ravens have resigned backup quarterback Tyler Huntley, Packers trading 1406 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 6: defensive tackle Kolby Wooden to the Colster Ziar Franklin, a 1407 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 6: linebacker forty nine Ers and kicker Eddie Pinero agree to 1408 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 6: a four year contract. The Eagles make defensive tackle j 1409 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 6: Jordan Davis the highest paid no tackle in the league, 1410 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 6: on a three year extension. Connor McGovern and the Bills 1411 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 6: have agreed to a new four year contract extension to 1412 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 6: keep the middle of their offensive line intact. Rams cornerback 1413 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 6: Darius Williams retired after eight seasons, and Cowboys have not 1414 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 6: been able to come to an agreement with a long 1415 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 6: term contract extension for Brandon Aubrey, so the team has 1416 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 6: moved to a restricted free agent tender worth five point 1417 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 6: seven million, and that if the team can match it, 1418 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 6: and Cowboys have opportunity to match that, and if they don't, 1419 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 6: they'll get a second round pick. And you know, I 1420 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 6: was trying to come up with a joke, but I 1421 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 6: got nothing. I really got nothing. I really am I 1422 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 6: don't know. I was host to host show in a 1423 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 6: half an hour. I'm totally distracted right now. 1424 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 3: I've got to be sitting there wide eyed. 1425 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 4: I got to recap thinking about body pudding. 1426 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be all for the rest of it. 1427 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm not in my life contemplated this before. And now 1428 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 3: I have so many questions, none of which I should 1429 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: ask back to you. 1430 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Nilla wafers are always the answer. He's buck Rising. I'm 1431 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Jason fitz Bucket Fish Human. 1432 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Sports. Welcome to the Last ever bucket fits on. I 1433 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 3: got scared there for a thank you so much, thank you, 1434 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 3: thank you so so much. 1435 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 2: All Right, So I've had an epiphany, not about body pudding, 1436 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: but about the NFL. Uh And I can't believe I've 1437 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: had this epiphany, but it finally hit me. I said 1438 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 2: something to you a couple of days ago that I 1439 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 2: think applies to more than just quarterbacks. We were talking 1440 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 2: about whether quarterbacks need to lift up talent or talent 1441 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: needs to lift up quarterbacks, and I mentioned at the 1442 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 2: time it's a little like a teeter totter or a seesaw, 1443 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: depending on where you grew up. Like in the beginning, 1444 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 2: I think you have to surround a bunch of a 1445 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 2: bunch of talent around that young quarterback, and that talent 1446 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 2: is really the weight, and then over the years, the 1447 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 2: quarterback becomes the weight and they lift everybody else up. 1448 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 2: I feel like that's the same thing with draft picks, 1449 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: because earlier I said, how do you get great You 1450 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: nail it with the draft over and over and over again. 1451 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 2: And if you nail it with the draft, and I'm 1452 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 2: not talking just about first rounders, I'm talking about second, third, fourth, fifth, 1453 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 2: If you just consistently nail it with the draft and 1454 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 2: development and depth. Then it provides the opportunity eventually when 1455 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 2: you're really good, to say f them picks. And so 1456 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 2: often what we see, like the Raiders get two first 1457 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 2: rounders for back Scrosby. Well, in theory, you know, hopefully 1458 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: they don't blow it with these first rounders. It could 1459 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 2: be a real opportunity to reset, but realistically most teams 1460 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 2: suck don't do well with those. The opposite of it 1461 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: is the Rams have drafted so well as an organization, 1462 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 2: not just at the first round they've traded their draft pick, 1463 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 2: notine in the last ten years, right, but the rest 1464 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: of the draft they've nailed. They've nailed so much of 1465 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 2: how to put together their and then they continually aggressively 1466 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 2: trade high draft picks for young talent they can still 1467 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 2: get a few years out of that they still believe in. 1468 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 2: So Trent McDuffie gets traded to the Rams, and the 1469 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 2: whole time I just keep thinking, well, of course, this 1470 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 2: makes sense because they are at a spot where the 1471 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 2: majority of their fifty three is good. Like the same 1472 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 2: exercise we talked about earlier, if you ask yourself, how 1473 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 2: many of these. 1474 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Players would start on a playoff caliber football team. The 1475 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 3: answer for the Rams buck is a bunch, and when 1476 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 3: that's the answer, then you can be more aggressive. Like 1477 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 3: part of the reason you didn't love the Ravens trade 1478 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 3: was they have a lot of holes. The Rams don't 1479 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 3: have a lot of holes. So while they're in a 1480 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowl now window, saying FM picks is actually a 1481 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 3: really smart strategy because of where they are in their 1482 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 3: window and where they are with their total roster today. 1483 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 5: Well, this was a fact. It's not a stat but 1484 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 5: a fact that was given to me on the local show. 1485 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 5: I guess at some point within the last two weeks. 1486 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 5: I can't remember if it was while we were a 1487 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 5: combiner or this past week with all the information flying around, 1488 01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 5: I guess it would have been this week because we 1489 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 5: were talking about the McDuffie trade. It happened while we 1490 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 5: were live on the air here in Nashville. Do you 1491 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 5: know who has made the most draft picks of any 1492 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 5: team in the last ten years. 1493 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to guess, because you're asking me, the Rams 1494 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 3: are going to be the. 1495 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 4: End, it's the Rams. It's the Rams. 1496 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 5: Shout out Robert Walsh for finding that fact. They are 1497 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 5: not actually a bleep them picks team. They are a 1498 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 5: bleep them first round picks team. They are eating feasting 1499 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 5: in fact less Need and his staff in the bulk 1500 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 5: of the draft. On Day two and Day three, they 1501 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 5: are hitting on cost effective, starting caliber players across the board. Now, listen, 1502 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 5: everything is cyclical, especially in an inexact science like the draft. 1503 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 5: So is that a sustainable way for them to continue 1504 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 5: to operate For them, it seems to be with a 1505 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 5: decade of a sample size. 1506 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 4: The idea that they've made more picks than. 1507 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 5: Any other NFL team in the last decade, despite everybody 1508 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 5: thinking that they just trade picks away at will, is 1509 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 5: one of the easiest things. 1510 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 4: It was mind blowing for me to hear that earlier 1511 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 4: this week. 1512 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 5: So to their credit, they have enough confidence in the 1513 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 5: rest of their system and their staff and their process. 1514 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 5: However you want to describe this to make sure that, yeah, 1515 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 5: the first round pick is the thing that shiny and 1516 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 5: bright and everybody thinks is going to be the thing 1517 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 5: that changes the. 1518 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 4: Entire future of your team in the draft. But instead 1519 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 4: of leaving that up to fate. 1520 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,919 Speaker 5: And using our high variance risk situation on a first 1521 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 5: round draft pick that may be a good player. It 1522 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 5: may not be a good player depending on what the 1523 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 5: hit rate, the average first round hit rate is for 1524 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 5: NFL teams. We're going to use those first round picks 1525 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 5: to buy essentially quality, proven starters in the NFL and 1526 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 5: then just bank on the fact that we know what we're. 1527 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 4: Doing better than just about any other team. 1528 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 5: You might debate the merits of that, but I think 1529 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 5: their track record speaks for itself that we're going to 1530 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 5: be able to get this done on Day two and 1531 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 5: Day three, and the first round pick isn't anything, but 1532 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 5: you know, a shiny where you do have more opportunities 1533 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 5: to take chances on an Anthony Richardson type situation. 1534 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 4: I know that's an extreme example of that. 1535 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 5: Not everybody's drafting, Like Taylor Green is not going to 1536 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 5: be a first round draft pick, the Arkansas quarterback who 1537 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 5: has some of the freaky athletic characteristics at least as 1538 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 5: far as the combine testing goes, as Anthony Richardson did. 1539 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 5: But still, you understand my point. They don't need the 1540 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 5: first round picks because they're using them in more viable ways, 1541 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 5: in a more exact way than just about any other 1542 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 5: team in the sport. 1543 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and That's the interesting part about it is that 1544 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 2: so often we talk about the coaches, and we talk 1545 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks. But to me, there are a handful 1546 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 2: of gms or team runners, whatever that might be, that 1547 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 2: are just better than everybody. A few years ago, field 1548 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Yates tweeted out when the Chiefs were in their second 1549 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 2: second straight when they won their second straight Super Bowl, 1550 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: field Yates tweeted out the success of the Kansas City 1551 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 2: Draft in second, third, fourth, and fifth round picks over 1552 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 2: the course of a five year period, and all but 1553 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 2: one player at the time from those drafts that was 1554 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 2: picked second, third, fourth, and fifth was on the Chiefs roster. 1555 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 2: That buck speaks to what you're talking about. Like Les's 1556 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 2: need is a cheat code, Howie Roseman is a cheat code, 1557 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 2: not just for the way that they acquire players, but 1558 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 2: for the way that they utilize the draft. It's one 1559 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 2: of the craziest things to me that in a sport, 1560 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 2: in a league where there is no cap for how 1561 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 2: much you can pay a front office person, I genuinely 1562 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 2: don't understand. Like, if Mark Davis really wanted to turn 1563 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 2: around my beloved Raiders, the first thing he could have 1564 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 2: done years ago was just gone to Howie Roseman and said, 1565 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 2: I'll give you a hundred million dollars, like there's got 1566 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 2: to everybody has a price. 1567 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 3: Million dollar man, straight up, I'll give you whatever it takes. 1568 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 3: If I'm a team that sucks, I'm going to less 1569 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 3: need and I'm saying, hey, how much you want, what's 1570 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 3: the dream? 1571 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 2: I'll pay you more than we pay anybody in the 1572 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 2: history of this organization. I'll make you the part owner 1573 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 2: if I have to. 1574 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 3: I want you to come on to this team and 1575 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 3: do with this team, to this team that you've done 1576 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 3: with the Rams, because certainly the Rams are in a 1577 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 3: window right now with Stafford, and let's see how it 1578 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 3: looks when they don't have Stafford. 1579 01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 2: They're going to have to figure out their quarterback future. 1580 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 2: But I love the way they're handling all of this, 1581 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 2: and it's about being strategically aggressive. Like we're going to 1582 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 2: question for a long time whether or not the Colts. 1583 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 3: Were correctly strategically aggressive in acquiring Sauce Gardner because we 1584 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 3: don't really know if Daniel Jones is the quarterback for 1585 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 3: the future. I'm not sure if this season goes off 1586 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,600 Speaker 3: the rails they don't get something worked out positive with 1587 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and they suck. Is stichen gonna be one 1588 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 3: foot out to do? I don't know. 1589 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 2: There's so many stability questions with them, it doesn't necessarily 1590 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 2: make sense right now to know if they were being aggressive. 1591 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 3: The Rams don't have any of those stability questions. The 1592 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 3: Eagles don't have any of those stability questions. 1593 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 2: So like we all understand where stability comes in those organizations, 1594 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 2: and that gives you the opportunity to be particularly aggressive. 1595 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 5: Speaking of things that are unstable. 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Be sure to follow the podcast right of 1603 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 5: five stars, and you can even provide a review if 1604 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,839 Speaker 5: you are so inclined. 1605 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 4: We do love your reviews. 1606 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 5: Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast, 1607 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 5: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we 1608 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 5: get off the air. Unless what happens last week happens 1609 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 5: this week and you get an hour of Karm and 1610 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 5: Alex in our podcast. 1611 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 4: It's fine. I'm not mad at anybody. I'm just lashing 1612 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:23,879 Speaker 4: out recklessly. 1613 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 3: Okay. 1614 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, if that, 1615 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 2: if that protects us from our own nill away for 1616 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 2: content that's probably not the mighty better. I mean, that 1617 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: might be better at this point. He might just be 1618 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: my making smart career decisions. From the first time hearing 1619 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 2: of this, Oh oh yeah, oh oh Mary, how's that 1620 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 2: not a fine? He went to a microphone to call 1621 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 2: out the producer without saying anything to the producer first. 1622 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 3: That seems like that's a bad teammate. Fine, who are you? 1623 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying to question your authority in here. I'm the 1624 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 3: body pudding man. 1625 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 2: All right, you know what, it's time for the single 1626 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 2: greatest game show in the history of sports talcer God, 1627 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,639 Speaker 2: would you rather coming up next to Bucking Fits? Bucks 1628 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 2: still getting fined somehow someway? Would you rather coming up 1629 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 2: next on Fox Sports Radio? Nope, it's Bucking Fits hanging 1630 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 2: out with you on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. 1631 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz. Saturday night. We'll be back with you, 1632 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: by the way, Monday morning. We're in for two pros 1633 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 2: and a cup of Joe the two of us will 1634 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 2: be hanging out getting your morning set. 1635 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 3: So don't forget. 1636 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: NFL Free Agent Legal Tampering starts at noon on Monday, 1637 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,639 Speaker 2: so we'll have plenty of time to break that down. 1638 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 2: What you think we're not going to get invited after after, 1639 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, body putting, I. 1640 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:39,759 Speaker 4: Think that would be wise. 1641 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 5: I think I think Brady and Levarr and Jonas would 1642 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 5: be like, you know, maybe maybe maybe think about something again. 1643 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,639 Speaker 3: I'm going to call an audible on this one. 1644 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 4: Let me have someone else in. 1645 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 5: There, like you know what, Like, no, I'm not going 1646 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 5: to be dragged down by you and your body pudding. Okay, Like, 1647 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 5: let me let me do this and then you we will. 1648 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,640 Speaker 5: This may be the part where we this may be 1649 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 5: the point where we part ways, you and ire. 1650 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, like like Brady is too 1651 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 2: pretty for body pudding, LeVar is too cool for body pudding. 1652 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 2: So then it would have to definitely go to Jonas, 1653 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 2: Like Jonas is gonna be the sorry buddy, like Jonas 1654 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 2: is in, Jonas. 1655 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 3: Is gonna be the body putting. Like that's it. That's it, 1656 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 3: That's where that's where we are. We'll be in for 1657 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 3: the three of them. And uh, we'll see. 1658 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Like, I can't guarantee you I can't guarantee you that 1659 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 2: I won't bring body pudding, and I can't guarantee you 1660 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,799 Speaker 2: that Buck will actually wear clothes because it gets. 1661 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: Really weird when he's up that early. That's what happened. 1662 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 3: So that's a dangerous combination. 1663 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 2: It's time for the single greatest gape show in the 1664 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 2: history of sports talk radio. 1665 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 3: Though it is time right now for what you rather there. 1666 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 4: Guys, don't think I have to or fix it. 1667 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 3: I meany We got there eventually, Yeah, it was. 1668 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 10: It was all right the second two words. We're in line, 1669 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 10: but it's always you just need that first word to 1670 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 10: kind of like established things. 1671 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 4: Blondond, I'm sorry, who's running the show? Back there? You two? Okay? 1672 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 3: What does that say about you? How about? 1673 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 4: How does it feel to be attached to all this? Wow? 1674 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 3: Wow, I can't look at that. You need to talk 1675 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 3: to your therapist about displacement. Go ahead, go ahead, give 1676 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 3: us a give us what you got here. 1677 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 4: You talked about therapists. 1678 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 10: Okay, So would you rather be locked in an empty 1679 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 10: room without any windows, clocks, or human contact for an 1680 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 10: entire year? But you get one hundred million dollars at 1681 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 10: the end of it, or would. 1682 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 3: You rather not do that? 1683 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 4: I'd rather not do that. That sounds awful. 1684 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 3: Okay. Is there a price tag? 1685 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 4: Though? 1686 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Like? 1687 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 10: Is there? Because I struggled with how much money the 1688 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 10: prize should be? The like, if it was a trillion dollars, 1689 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 10: would you do it? 1690 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 1: No? 1691 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 5: I don't think I would. That sounds like like the 1692 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 5: hell you would be ever warped. I mean a year 1693 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 5: in total isolation, you would be a totally different person. 1694 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 5: On the other side of that. What good would the 1695 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 5: money be? But you would you would? Yeah, Okay, it's 1696 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 5: what that is. One of the perfect encapsulations of money 1697 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 5: does not buy happiness, all right, Like, I don't know. 1698 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm stubborn. 1699 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 5: Maybe people would think I'm insane for saying no to 1700 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,759 Speaker 5: any amount of money. But there is not an amount 1701 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 5: of money you could put in front of me to 1702 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 5: make me want. 1703 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 4: To do that. 1704 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'll take all of it. I'll take 1705 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 3: one hundred million. 1706 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 4: I mean, associopath look like. 1707 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,799 Speaker 3: So it's funny because, especially when you first start in Abandon, 1708 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,560 Speaker 3: you have to do West coastuff. You just have to 1709 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 3: ride in the tour bus. The whole time. So sometimes 1710 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,720 Speaker 3: you're on the bus for twenty four hours to day 1711 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 3: four or five days in a row, and everybody ever 1712 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 3: toured with always got so antsy by day three or 1713 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 3: four of Like I can't move off this bus, and 1714 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are we complaining about? Like, I just 1715 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 3: I don't I sit still fine in those situations when 1716 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 3: I know that there's an end game towards all of it, 1717 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Like I'd need to be able to shower and shave 1718 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 3: and things like that, so why I still feel human 1719 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 3: during the process. 1720 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, like and ideally if you gave me some books, 1721 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 2: that'd be nice. But yeah, if one hundred million dollars 1722 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,799 Speaker 2: at the end of three hundred and sixty. 1723 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 3: Five days, I'm disciplined, baby, I'll take that one hundred 1724 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 3: million dollars crazy or not, I'll lop some of that 1725 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 3: off for the therapy I'll need afterwards, and then boom. 1726 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna go to Abtha and take all 1727 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 3: the pills I'm in one hundred percent, one hundred million dollars. Woo, No, Marcus, 1728 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 3: rustle the hell out of it. 1729 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 2: But come on, what I mean, I'm just saying, I'm 1730 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 2: gonna party my way through one hundred million dollars afterwards, 1731 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll take all the money, all right. 1732 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 4: Yes, we knew if he was unhanded, if the last 1733 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,480 Speaker 4: hour of the show did not already. 1734 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 10: Tell us this, okay, would you rather be okay? Another 1735 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 10: another thing about being trapped? Would you rather be trapped 1736 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 10: in a spacious capsule way out and outer space or 1737 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 10: at the. 1738 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Bottom of the ocean spaces capsule and outer space? 1739 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 2: Because at least then I feel like I feel like 1740 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 2: the whole time, I'd be thinking that the ocean's going 1741 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,680 Speaker 2: to collapse. Whatever I'm in in the ocean, then I'm 1742 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 2: gonna drown to death. And that sounds so scary. 1743 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 4: Are you watching? Are you on like a prison movie 1744 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 4: kick or something like that? What's going on? 1745 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Ian? What are we working through here? 1746 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 4: Buddy? 1747 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even know. These just 1748 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 3: came to me today again concerns. 1749 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 10: You use a good mixture of chat, GPT and just 1750 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 10: like brain power here, this was a brain power. 1751 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 5: One, not something that I would claim is brain power. 1752 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 5: But I will also take the I will take the 1753 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,879 Speaker 5: Martian experience. You can send me to the spacious capsule 1754 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 5: and out of space, I don't know. There is something 1755 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 5: specifically claustrophobic about the ocean and the darkness of the 1756 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 5: depths of the ocean. 1757 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 4: I don't want that. 1758 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 3: Oh, I got news for you about space. It's dark. Yeah, 1759 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 3: but I'm in a cap if I'm in the big 1760 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 3: I'm in a capsule. Do I have lights in the capsule? 1761 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 3: Like maybe a lava lamp? Yeah, you can have a 1762 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 3: lava lamp. Okay, and I'm good. You want to get 1763 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 3: us another one? 1764 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 4: That's all he only needs. 1765 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 3: Oh, that's all. That's all. That's all I wanted. 1766 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 4: Was it was? 1767 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 3: It was the lava lap gives one more. 1768 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:04,839 Speaker 4: Wheel? Was buffering? 1769 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 3: All right? 1770 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 10: Would you rather be able to get your energy through 1771 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 10: photosynthesis instead of eating, or be able to get eight 1772 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 10: hours worth of rest and recharge in just a five 1773 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 10: minute nap? 1774 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 4: Oh? That the ladder? I because I'm a terrible sleeper anyway. 1775 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 5: Like, if I can get five consecutive hours of sleep 1776 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 5: in any one night, I'm having a good day. So 1777 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 5: if I could, if I could feel like I got 1778 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,760 Speaker 5: eight hours and five minutes photosynthesis. You have to have sun. 1779 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 5: Like FITZI hasn't seen the sun in six months. He 1780 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 5: lives in Connecticut. It sounds awful. 1781 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 3: You know what they say? What are they? Ain't no 1782 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 3: rest for a wicked well that is. I think I 1783 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 3: would take the I don't I love the idea having 1784 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 3: that much time. I'd have twenty three hours, I'd have 1785 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 3: almost twenty four hours, So I'm in for that. That's 1786 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 3: more time than i can have body putting. 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