WEBVTT - Draft Show: Live Mock Draft 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:28.160 Selex Emit Smith running back from Florida. We are just 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:33.280 twenty eight days away from the NFL Draft, at least 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.680 that's what the scheduled at the moment in April twenty third. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.519 But it's Thursday in March twenty six and we are 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.279 less than a month away from the draft. And this 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.360 may be the new norm going up into the draft. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.720 We are remote here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.880 Draft Show. Jeff Cavanaugh's in Casa Dela Cavanaugh. You've got 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.880 David Hellman in the Hellman House. You've got Kevin Turner 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.880 in Katie fun apartment or whatever it is. The thing 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.320 is Katie fun Lay. And then now I'm in the 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.319 Yeoman's Cave. So we're glad you're with us, you're on 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.240 the draft show, and it's a new norm. But we're 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:11.080 gonna bring you a first mock draft here of twenty twenty, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.560 and guys, I'm excited to get things started with all 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.080 of you. And it's a little bit odd not having 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.319 you guys sitting across the table in the SWBC Mortgage studios. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.760 But I will have to say, Jeff, I'm glad that 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.680 you're feeling better and you're not coughing about five feet 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:33.280 away from us either. Sorry, oh there it is. Well. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.440 I will say that I'm glad that we're not together 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.720 because Dave doesn't shower enough. So I showered right before 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.360 I came on this show. I'll have you know I 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:47.480 did not. Quarantine has not changed my cleanliness habits. Thank you, though, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.280 appreciate it. Katie. How are you doing there than that 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.560 that bottom right hand corner. I'm doing great. I just 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.360 feel weird that everyone else has a pretty awesome backgrounds 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.760 and I have these these shades back here. I'm just 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.840 keeping my apartment closed. I don't like for people to 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.560 see what I'm up to and my tiny apartment because like, 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.600 it's really boring when you watch me at night watching 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:16.560 day three draft prospects. Yeah, that's basically what your entire 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.760 apartment would I guess consist of. I guess at a 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.920 late hour like that. But before we get into the 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.760 mock draft, which we will do picks one through thirty 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.200 two over the course of this show, let's start things 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.799 off talking about a former draft prospect, one that was 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.359 drafted in twenty thirteen and a recent retiree and Travis 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.760 Frederick and I know each of us have had different 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.799 platforms to kind of talk about this a little bit, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.960 but I kind of wanted to ask you, guys in 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.359 a draft, since how much does this elevate the need 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.480 that Travis Frederick of five time Pro bowler has now 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.720 retired and now he is moving on to better things 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.480 beyond football. But what kind of need does this elevate 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.079 for the Dallas Cowboys. Dave will start with you. I'll 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.000 be honest with you. I would be wildly disappointed if 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.560 it elevated anything. You know, if the Cowboys were to 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.920 spend better than like a Day three pick on a 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.520 center because of this decision. It seems knee jerky to me. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.760 You resigned Joe Looney last week. You obviously you drafted 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.080 Connor McGovern in which a year ago people didn't know 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.679 what they were going to do with him. Well, it 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.720 turns out when you draft best player available, these things 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.200 just kind of fall into place. And then you've got 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.919 Connor Williams, You've got Adam Redman. I mean, there are 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.160 a lot of options for guys that can slide into 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.720 the center spot, and you know, maybe it won't work 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.520 out and you can draft the guy later. But you know, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.080 people talking about Caesar Ruise out of Michigan and Lloyd 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.480 Cushionberry out of LSU. I just I can't imagine the 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.840 Cowboys need to draft the center in the first three rounds. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:58.119 It seems that seems aftly panicky to me. Katie Well, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.640 I think the good news is, you know, the rest 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.560 of the offensive line is intact, and you know, maybe 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.960 we're rolling the dice a little bit on Tyrn Smith's health. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.760 But you know, I think you feel good about what 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.840 you have with Lyle Collins at right tackle, you feel 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.040 great about what you have with Zach Martin, and then 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.440 you just let Connor Connor Williams, you let Connor McGovern 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.720 and you let Joe Looney just go fight it out 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.960 in camp and you figure out who's gonna play where. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.640 So I think it's it's sort of those things that's exciting. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.000 Connor Williams may be in a position where, hey man, 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.240 you can either go win left guard, or you can 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.960 go be the swing tackle, or you could be the center. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.760 Like he's got a big camp coming up, and that's 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.360 for McCarthy and the offensive coaching staff to figure out. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.880 But like there's no one there at seventeen in the 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.840 first round that you're gonna you're not gonna want to 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.320 draft a center there. You're really not a great draft 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.920 for interior offensive lineman in general. So you know, I 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.080 think you wait, wait until day three and maybe if 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:52.960 if you feel the need or find a player that 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.760 you like and he falls to you, you know, in 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.520 round four, round five, then then that's fine to go 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.640 ahead and draft a guy and add to the depth. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.599 But yeah, don't go reaching for a center right now. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.480 You've played without Travis Frederick before recently. You can do 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:14.000 it again, all right. Just your right tackle makes more 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.479 than ten million dollars a year, your left tackle makes 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.799 more than ten million dollars a year. Your right guard 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.080 makes more than ten million dollars a year. If you 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.839 have to throw more resources at the offensive line to 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.360 make it work, you got a problem. I think Connor 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.120 McGovern Remember Connor mcgovernor had a high draft grade from 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.600 this team than Tristan Hill did. So they made one 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.000 reach pick and obviously they missed on that. Hopefully there's 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.799 a lesson learned. Then they made one best player available 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.919 pick on Connor McGovern and hopefully that turns into a 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.240 lesson learned that he's able to step in. It's unfortunate 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.520 that he had to basically red shirt last year and 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.760 do nothing, But I would fully expect that a guy 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.320 who started fourteen games at Penn State at center that 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.839 you had a second round grade on can beat out 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.320 Joe Loody and Camp and be the starting center. You 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.760 should be able to get by with three ten million 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:07.400 dollar guys, a second round pick, and a third round 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.320 pick on your offensive line, and if you can't, you 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.039 got bigger problems. I completely agree, and I think it's 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.280 kind of tough looking at it though, from Connor McGovern's standpoint, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.360 because that's a guy who didn't practice a whole lot 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.560 last year, if barely at all. He just wasn't necessarily healthy, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.839 so his health going into twenty twenties a big question 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.400 mark for me. Dave, I didn't mean to cut you 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.839 off or no, no, I just was agreeing with Jeff absolutely. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.320 I mean, it's cool that they had so many first 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.960 round picks on their offensive line, but it's hardly necessary 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.240 or it shouldn't be at least well. With all of 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.000 this being said, it's it's a little sad to see 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.359 Travis Frederick move on, But at the same time, what 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.440 a legend in what he's been able to do with 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.479 his six healthy seasons. He made five Pro Bowls with 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.560 the Dallas Cowboys. So definitely something that the Cowboys are 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.599 gonna mess in some production that they're gonna have to fill. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.760 But let's go ahead and move on to our first 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.400 ever or first draft mock draft this year for the 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.599 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, and here's how things 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.920 are going to kind of shape up in terms of 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.080 how we're gonna do this. We're each gonna be the 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:16.720 GM of this potential or of these specific franchises. As 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.400 we take a look at the mock draft order between 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.040 the four of us. You've got David Hellman. He's going 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.320 to have the first pick, so he can go ahead 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.920 and select his guy, Joe Burrow. He can have that 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.280 and of course be able to flaunt the fact that 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.840 he picked Joe Burrow, but he's also got picked seventeen 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.400 with the Dallas Cowboys. Just the way that this worked out, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.320 Katie ends up having like half of the trades that 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.560 have happened in the first round, or more than half 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.080 of the trades that have happened. Jeff Kavanaugh goes third, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.720 and then he will go around the order. One of 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.560 the most intriguing picks that he has on the board 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.120 has picked number seven with those Caroline and Panthers, and 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.560 then I'll go forth. It's going around the table. It 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.200 was originally going to go around the table like it 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.680 was in the SWBC Mortgage Student. So it's a little 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.240 bit jumbled up with us being in these different boxes. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.200 But this is how the mock draft is going to start. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.640 We're gonna do one through ten first. We'll take a 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.400 break after pick ten, but David, we're gonna go ahead 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.080 and put you on the clock. The Cincinnati Bengals are 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.480 ready to select, and I'm just dying to know exactly 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.760 who you're going to pick. Well, you can be facetious 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.480 all you want, Kyle, I actually like I approached this 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.760 whole thing. By this point in the draft process. I'm 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.160 bored of all the mock drafts because for the most part, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.800 you're seeing the same stuff, and rightfully so, obviously, So 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.880 I'm sitting here thinking like, is there something Cincinnati can 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.880 do besides draft Joe Burrow? And short of trading out 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.280 of the pick, which we're not going to be doing 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.920 trades in this mock draft, We're just we're worried about 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.240 getting way in the weeds. I guess we can talk 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.400 about the potential, but unless Cincinnati gets offered like a 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.720 king's ransom, there's no way this can't be Joe Burrow. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.840 They need help on their offensive line, but they drafted 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.760 an offensive tackle eleventh overall last year, or Joanah Williams. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.240 They'll get him back. They have other picks they can 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 use to address that and not to mention like, I 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.520 just think the fan base would riot, so it's boring. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.760 But I just feel like, unless somebody offers them everything 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.840 for the pick, it is Joe Burrow. That's who I'm picking. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.400 LSU quarterback number one overall. You got it. You kind 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.840 of scared me for a little bit. I thought you 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.120 might have actually gone out there and maybe if I could, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.600 if I could, if I could talk myself into it, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.560 I would, But I don't. I mean, what would a 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.679 team have to give up to get that pick? You know, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.560 if Miami wants to offer all their first round picks 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.480 to get up from number five, is that enough? Maybe? 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.680 But at the end of the day, I think it 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.560 just makes too much sense for a Cincinating to make 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.439 this pick. So is there any possibility, and I'll bring 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.120 in Katie and Jeff on this as well, But is 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.640 there any any possibility that maybe one of these teams 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.920 that needs a quarterback and needs one in dire straight 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.400 it goes up and tries to give that King's Ransom 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:08.760 to Cincinnati. I think there's a chance, but I don't 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.240 know if you know, Cincinnati's even gonna play that game. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.959 I think with the uncertainty of to US you know, medicals, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.720 and it's gonna be really hard to know how teams 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.840 feel about that. If it's not Burrow for them, what 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.240 is it. You know, they're obviously done with Andy Dalton, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.400 like it's it's time to go ahead. So I think 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.840 you're Cincinnati, you just sit there and take it. But 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.160 you know, we'll see. I mean, if you're doing a 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.280 full rebuilt, the smart thing is to do is put 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.960 that thing on the table and see how many picks 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.240 you could get back for it. But I think they're 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.120 pretty confident. I think Joe Burrow is gonna be the 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.319 clear highest graded quarterback in this draft because of to 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.000 US medicals as part of all that thing. So I 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.520 think there's a very very limited chance that the Bengals 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:55.720 don't take Joe Burrow. Okay, So with that all kind 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.000 of way it out. Now Joe Burrows the only one 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.439 off the board. Katie, You're up next with the Washington 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.360 side of things. And now you've got two of the 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.800 next three picks and NFC East rivals for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.000 These are guys you're gonna see twice a year. Who 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.560 you got for the Washington Redskins at pick number two. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.600 What I personally would do is I would take twa 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.440 if his medicals were good. But I do it. No, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.400 I'm not gonna do what I think. I'm gonna do 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.480 what I think is gonna happen. Ron ROVERA no, no, no, no, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.559 we need to establish the ground rules. Is this a 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.600 predictive mot draft or is this you are the GM 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.440 because I heard you are? You are the GM. This 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.079 is gmode. This isn't predicting what's happening. This is if 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.880 you were the GM of these specific franchises, who were 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.000 you taking? And Katie, you kind of lean that way. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.560 Is this gonna change things or not? Can you show 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.000 me the X rays on Tuah, don't be a coward, Katie. Well, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.439 if we're playing, if we're playing Criteria Bowl right now, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.679 then tell me what the two of medicals are, man bro, 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.880 what are the medicals? He looked really good throwing in 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.440 that Twitter video the other day. Yeah, I look good 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.520 out in my backyard throwing the backyard pick or don't 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.199 make the pick? Chase Young across from Montes sweat and 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:16.240 a three four situation for Washington. Chase Young from Ohio 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.880 State is who the Redskins pick for Ron Rivera and 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.120 Jack del Rio. So he went away from it. So 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.760 two is still on the board and the Lions are 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:31.640 up next. And is there any real legitimacy of the 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.760 Redskins even looking at two, even if he is healthy 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.200 at that point? Or are they I wonder if there 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.960 should be one percent? There was one hundred percent legitimacy 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.040 to that. It's a new it's a new coaching staff, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.400 it's an you know, it's an entirely different regime. It's 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.560 an owner who's got a reputation for doing what he wants. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.480 I think it's totally legit. But I honestly I called 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.560 Kat a coward, but I don't disagree with him. Like, 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.120 just take the very safe, very deathly gonna be productive 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.000 defensive end and you can figure out, Okay, tis the coward. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.040 He should have taken two. He's a coward. I'm a 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.880 count It's not like Dwayne Hatskin's career is over like 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.800 I would rather. I'd rather work with him and have 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.040 Chase Young than add a potentially unhealthy toa to my roster. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.480 I'm the coward of the county. You have fun boys whatever. Coward? 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.600 All right, Jeff you're next? Are you gonna be a coward? 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.800 Are you gonna see what the Lions do with pick 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:34.600 number three? We're thinking please hold um, thank you. So, yeah, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.040 what we're gonna do is pretty simple. We're gonna rail 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.320 against the tyranny and oppression that's happening in this mock 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.680 graph that's forcing us to take our guy at three 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.000 when really we're gonna take our guy at five because 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.680 we're gonna trade with Miami. They're gonna come up and 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.600 take TWOA and I'm gonna take Jeff Okuda at five. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.280 But we've banned trade, so I have to take South 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:05.720 Grand Prairie Zone Jeff Okuda corner Ohio's state at number three. Ah, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.800 So back to that Ohio state, guys, And yeah, we 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.760 did band trades but at the same time we can 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.800 talk about just how likely they are, and I think 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.120 this is probably the most spot for a team to 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.040 come up. Yeah, that's one hundred that's one hundred percent 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.120 that the Dolphins or the Chargers are gonna pick at 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.440 number three, and then the Lions are gonna pick Okuda 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.760 at either five or six, as as the Charsons, Oh, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.640 all the way up from number nine. Huh what I mean, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.680 they've got some capital to do. So they got Gardner Minshew? 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.840 What fourteen picks? Yeah, I mean that's that's not that's 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.280 not a bad point. I got Gardner Man. You really 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.920 are you really sold on Gardner minshew? Though? They're sold 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.160 enough that they are trying to get rid of a 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.800 twenty million dollars quarterback that they overpaid for no reason 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.400 they believe. Are you sure that's for Gardner Minshew? Are 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.320 you sure that's not because they're trying to trade up 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.880 and draft a quarterback? Well, yeah, yeah, you're not trying 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:01.600 to trade a guy before. You know, if you can 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.360 trade up the draft a guy, you gotta know that 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.240 you got that in the bank. Feels like they're starting over, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.560 feels like they're trying to lose a bunch of games 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.640 this year, and that's my opinion. I could see that one, 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.920 and I mean the tank for Trevor. Every thing is 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.240 legitimate as well. Look, the Panthers are going to be 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.000 some pretty tough competition there. They're coming after Trevor. Laurence 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.800 are two expansion teams from the nineties. Go get it. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.080 As far as expensive draft picks go, the Jacks have 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.680 picked nine, pick twenty, pick forty two, pick seventy three. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.840 They also have Unique and Gackway, who could probably fetch 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.400 you something in a trade too. I don't know if 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.480 that's as appealing as what Miami has to offer, but 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:48.000 I it's theoretically possible. Miami has five, eighteen and twenty 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.720 six as the person that holds the dolphins number five pick. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.720 I can just say that if trades were possible in 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.880 this mock, I would be going up to three to 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.520 get to us. So I think Jeff is one hundred right, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.040 I co sign as the guy who holds the Dolphins 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:09.200 eighteenth and twenty six. Let's go, but no trades because 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:13.720 it's confusing for the listener. Okay, so that said, the 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.720 Dolphins are gonna end up getting two attack in this 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.800 draft anyways, just for the soul's sake of the fact 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.480 that I've got the fourth pick and the New York Giants, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.680 who could go offensive tackle here, and I think there's 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.120 a really high chance they go offensive tackle here. But 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.600 because I'm the GM, I'm picking Isaiah Simmons out of 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.680 and taking Simmons off the board at number four. That's 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.600 a linebacking corps that needs some help. It's not their 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.120 number one need, but he's the best player pick number 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.480 four by far, at least I'm in my mind, And 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.520 so I'm taking Simmons at four for the Giants. Poor 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.080 Daniel Jones. Damn, oh my god, I would have guessed 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.320 McKay Beckton or Tristan Worth's. I like the pick the 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.280 right You did the right thing. Yeomen, you did the 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.040 right there too. They're gonna do many good tackles in 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.960 this draft. You can get a solid guy in the 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.160 second round. And you look at what the Giants have 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.320 overall in their in their draft, overall, they've got thirty six, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.000 so they're picking a couple just right at the beginning 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.679 of the second round. They're gonna get a solid tackle 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.400 at pick number two. So I think at fourth overall, 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.520 I think there's definitely a chance that they go up 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.880 and maybe take a chance at a guy like Simmons. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.960 I agree with you on that because if you look 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:30.600 at I mean, look, Cam Fleming is gonna be their 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.399 starting tackle. But if you ask me the question, do 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.639 you want a good offensive tackle on this draft? Or 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.440 do you want the best offensive tackle on this draft? 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.400 I would look at you and go, who's the best 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.440 offensive tackle on this draft? I'm not sure it's clear 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.080 cut and who that is. I mean, I have I 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.760 have Wills graded higher than any other tackle, but I don't. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.200 I can't tell you that I feel a lot better 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.199 than about him than I do Tristan Worf's from Iowa 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.919 or becked in from Louisville. Like, you know, something is 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.119 is you're mentioning a lot of guys that won't be 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.480 there the next time the Giants pick. Like, there's gonna 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.719 be a run. There's gonna be a run on tackles. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.520 There could be as many as like six taken in 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.000 the first round. Absolutely, and we're probably gonna see a 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.320 couple of those coming up over the next couple of moments. 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.720 So with that being said, let's go to pick number 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:19.440 six or pick number five. Rather go Dave, You're gonna 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.960 go straight to six. We're not gonna overtalk this. I 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.360 fully agree with Jeff. Like either Miami or the Chargers 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.560 is gonna pick at three. I feel very confident saying that. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.600 But for the purposes of this two is sitting there 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.720 at five for the Dolphins, and that's who they take 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.719 fifth overall to a tongue of iloa. Same for me. Six, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.880 I'm six with the Chargers. I'll take Justin Herbert off 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:47.000 the board right there. So back to back quarterbacks after 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.119 three straight picks with no quarterbacks, and that sets up 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.320 the Carolina Panthers. This is one of my most intriguing 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.120 picks because there are so many ways that you could 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.720 go here, Jeff and I'm intrigued. It's as to how 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:05.160 you're actually gonna attack it. Well, me and thinking, man, 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:11.240 here we are considering Jordan Love, We're thinking about it. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.960 We think you've still got Teddy Bridgewater. Listen, I'm not 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:22.560 a Teddy guy. Um oh, come on, we're drafting Derek Brown, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:29.640 defensive tackle. Why did you say? Okay? Sad about that? Okay? 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.840 Because I'm drafting a nose tackle at number seven overall. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.199 But he's a freak. We'll take him. We'll be all right. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.760 The best player available fits the biggest need of the Panthers. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:43.920 So yeah, Derek Brown, Yeah, all right. I wanted Iaish Simmons. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.840 I wanted I wanted Kyle to screw up and pick 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.639 an offensive tackle. I wanted iash seven. Sorry everybody, but 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.480 I am going to take an offensive tackle with my 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.919 next pick. Thank you. Arizona Cardinal said, Hey, now, I 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.159 will say this is another spot or Miami could trade 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.439 up if they didn't want to take a quarterback at 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.119 five and they wanted to maybe see how things played 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.000 out in the front seven picks. I don't think that's 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.240 likely by any means, but if for some reason that happens, 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.600 I mean, the draft is crazy. I think the Cardinals 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.440 would be probably the next spot that you could start 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.680 looking at, maybe a quarterback or a team to trade 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.720 up for a quarterback like a Jordan Love. But with 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.600 that being said, with no terms of quarterback or in 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:31.040 terms of nobody trading rather, I'm gonna go with Tristan 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.680 Worth's offensive tackle out of Iowa at pick number eight 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:40.600 for the Arizona Cardinals. I like it. You know, they had. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.639 I was surprised that they did not invest in the 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.480 offensive line last year in the draft, and they took 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.240 a bunch of wide receivers, which I wasn't surprised that 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.679 Kingsbury did that, but I really thought they were going 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.480 to try to get Kyler Murray some more help. They 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.240 have to do that this year. I mean, yeah, I 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.359 think if Derek Brown's there, I think they might lean 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.359 that direction. But offensive line help has to happen for 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.680 the Cardinals. They need to help Tyler out as much 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.760 as he can. So I love that pick right there, Kyle. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.440 All right, so final two picks before we take a break. Oh, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.560 go ahead, Dave. No, it's just it's an interesting thought that, 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.720 you know, if you can let go of the idea 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.960 of the Dolphins going after a quarterback in the top five. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.199 I'm not saying they will, but they could draft the 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.119 best offensive tackle available they need, they need that badly, 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.160 and they could still make a run at Jordan Love. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.800 That is the I mean, that's the type of ability 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.840 you have when you have three first round picks. That's 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:37.200 It's an interesting thought for sure. All Right, Dave, who 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.560