1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Hey guys, Welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast. So 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: I consider myself a very, very lucky to be kind 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: of a stress not stress free. But I have less 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: stress than a lot of people I know, less anxiety 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: than a lot of people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: I know. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: We all have, you know, everyone has a little bit 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: of anxiety and stress in their lives. But I'm definitely like, 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: if you were to look at what Bill, what do 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: people say? 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Like, if you were to look at a chart. 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Of everyone in the world, I would be very low 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: on that chart as far as people have a lot. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: Why do not do you think I have a lot 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: of stress? 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think I think you keep it 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: packed away and then at times it just comes out. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: That's a whole other podcast. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to that, or maybe we'll. 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Talk to doctor Amin about that. But today Doctor Amen, 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: who we love friend of the show, is joining us. 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: He is a world renowned psychiatrist, brain expert. He's just 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: like that go to guy that go to doctor. 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: He's a guru. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: He's all over Instagram. He's always answering everyone's question. So 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: we want to talk to him about one thing that 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: stresses me out beyond belief. The one thing in my 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: life that I have tremendous anxiety over my fear of flying. 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: I have a horrible fear of flying. If you're listening, 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: you probably have a horrible fear of flying too. That's 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: why you're tuning into this podcast today because you saw 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: the title was fear of flying. 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: So it's awful. 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: It's awful, and I'm going to get into how it 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: all started and what happens to me on airplanes, and you. 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Know why, I think I have abilitate. 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: It's debilitating and I don't even talk about it publicly 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: because I just don't. But now today we're unpacking this 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: fear of flying. And so here's the deal. I've been wondering, like, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: should we do a podcast on like hypnosis for fear 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: flying on em d R, which is this treatment for 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: fear of flying. I've researched them all, but I'm like, 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to go to doctor Amon 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: first and ask him what should I do. I want 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: to tell him he has no idea I have a 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: fear flying. I want to tell him about my fear 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: of flying. 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: See what he him? 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: Quarterback, Yeah, he's like my primary care physician at this point, right, Well, 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't know that. 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: He didn't sign uprise, he didn't sign up for and yeah, 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: and so let's welcome to the show. Is quite a 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: lengthy introduction. Is this your dissertation? 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Let's go? 56 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: Time is valuable, all right? 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Anyways, he's billing. 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: Out a thousands of dollars an hour, doctor Amitt, welcome 59 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: to the show. 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: We had a lot to talk to you about. 61 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for having. 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Me, doctor Amont. The one thing that. 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: Makes me my stress through the roof my MiG dilago 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: crazy flight or fight mode constantly when this is happening. 65 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: I have an incredibly awful fear of flying debilitating, okay, 66 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: and so when I'm on an airplane it's awful. But 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: the lead up to the airplane, I get depressed. Like 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Bill can tell. He's like, God, what's wrong with you? 69 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: Like you're acting? 70 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 5: You know? 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: What's wrong? 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: Are you? 73 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: Okay? Can I help you today? 74 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: And then he's like, wait, you have a flight in 75 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: three days, and so we've linked that. I get the 76 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: build up the lead up to the flight, I get 77 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: like really quiet, I get very moody, and it's that bad, 78 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: and then I have to take Xanax to get on 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: the plane and to get through the flight. I'm constantly 80 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: the entire flight, I'm tracking my flight on an app 81 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: and I'm watching myself, my altitude, my speed. I mean, 82 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: it is like insane. And I've and the more technology 83 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: that comes out all these apps, I get turbulence reports. 84 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: I pay all this money to get written turbulence reports 85 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: for each flight I'm on, so I get the turbulence 86 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: report ahead of time. I wouldn't leave Europe three weeks 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: ago because I was going to have a C plus flight. 88 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's debilitating, okay, So I wonder because EMDR 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: simply help. 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: So it's actually one of my recommendations for you. When 91 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: I read your history and I read that part, when 92 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: did it start? 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's been my whole life. I don't 94 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: remember ever not being scared of flying, but I will 95 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: say I think it was my mom. My parents were Italian. 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: We moved to Italy when I was America. When I 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: was little. My mom, I remember being on planes with 98 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: her and she was like always very nervous. There might 99 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: have been like an emergency landing. When I was younger. 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Everything was fine, but like it was like a door 101 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: was broken that to land the plane and my mom 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: was freaking. So I just think it was like as 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: a child, and I've hated like so debilitating doctor Amon 104 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: that like Bill, like I don't even want to go. 105 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: He'll take Duke on trips and like I can't go 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: because I can't even think about the flight. 107 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: So I want you to see it as a problem 108 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: to solve, and not that you have some flaw, but 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 5: you have like a little scratch on a record, that 110 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 5: fear of flying, fear of flying, fear of flying, and 111 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 5: it just sort of got stuck. I have one of 112 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: my patients who I love so much. She had this 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: fear of getting her blood drawn, and now she's just 114 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: great getting her blood drawn. If you keep predicting over 115 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 5: and over, this is trouble. It builds that rut in 116 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: your brain and EMDR eye movement, desensitization and reprocessing. It's 117 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: a specific psychological treatment for trauma. And you've been traumatized 118 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 5: over and over and over again because now every flight 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: you feel like you're going to have a panic attack. 120 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: And I've attacked something dangerous to something that's actually very safe. 121 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: It's death by a million cuts because you think you're 122 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: going to die every time you literally I. 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Think I'm going to I don't even think panty. I 124 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: think I'm going to, like crash. I'm sending messages to Bill, 125 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: like telling him who to tell messages to of my family. 126 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: I mean it's like, literally. 127 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: You give into it. Every time you give into that, 128 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 5: you strengthen the worry. And so what I would want 129 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: you to do is, one, never leave a flight, even 130 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: if you're freaking out, because when you leave, it strengthens 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 5: the fear. The second thing is learn diaformatic breathing, and 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: it's this very specific pattern breathing with your diaphragm mostly 133 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 5: your belly, and pretty women hate that because they're always 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: holding their belly in, which, oh, by the way, makes 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: them more anxious. So four seconds in, take a big breath, 136 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: hold it for a second and a half. Eight seconds 137 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: out and hold it for a second and a half. 138 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: And when you're on a plane, just really focus on 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: exhaling as long as you can. That resets your nervous system. 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 5: And then just start writing down all the really awful, 141 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: terrible thoughts you have, the images and then correct them. 142 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: So une have you ever interviewed Byron Katie. She's a 143 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: wonderful teacher and she wrote a book I like called 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 5: Loving What Is, And it's really about taking each thought captive. 145 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 5: So your brain is generating Stephen King like disaster movies 146 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: in your head. Well, you've allowed it to do that, 147 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: and I want you to see it just like that. Oh, 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: I've allowed my brain to do it, and in fact, 149 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: have trained your brain to see the disaster movie. And 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: if that's true, then you can retrain your brain to 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: see peace. And so we're going to crash. And so 152 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: here are the questions. I would always want you thinking 153 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: fortune telling. So this phobia is a fortune telling phobia, 154 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 5: that you're predicting the worst even though you don't have 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 5: evidence for it. Right, I mean they say airplane travel 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: is way safer than traveling in a car. 157 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I tell her that all the time. 158 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: I know. 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: Right, So it's going to crash. Here are the five questions, 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: and just answer them. And I'm not a fan of 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: positive thinking. I'm a fan of accurate thinking. Know the truth, 162 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 5: the truth will at you free. 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that true? 164 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 5: You're going to crash? 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 5: Okay, that's the most honest answer. The second question, is 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: it absolutely true with one hundred percent certainty you know 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: you're going to crash? 169 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: No? 170 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: Third question, how does that make you feel? How does 171 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: the thought we're going to crash make you feel? 172 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Awful? 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: Awful, scared, panicky? 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Yes, awful, start sweating? 175 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 176 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 5: You then your son's going to be without a mother, correct, 177 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 5: and the bill's going to find some woman that's not 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 5: as going to be as good for him whatever the thought. 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: Is, hopefully not as attractives. 180 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: Fourth question, so it's really simple, is it true? Is 181 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: it absolutely true? How does it make me feel? How 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 5: would I feel if I didn't have the. 183 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: Thought hmmm, great, amazing, if I didn't have the thought 184 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: of incredible, like the way to the world lifted off 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: my shoulders. 186 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: And then the fifth question is what's the opposite of 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: the thought that's bothering you? 188 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: The opposite of the thought that's whether me is freedom. 189 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: Is we won't crush. Yes, and that's what you meditate on. 190 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: That, that's what I meditate on. 191 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 5: What you meditate on is question five. So if you 192 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: write down and you have to do this like thirty 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: to fifty times just to begin to retrain your brain. Yeah, 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: and then the emdr what they would do, So don't leave, breathe, 195 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: write down what you're thinking, corrected, and if it's still 196 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: is not working, Fanny Gabba, magnesium just like taking a xanax, 197 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: but it's not addictive and you're not going to want 198 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: more and you won't rob anybody to get more of it, 199 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: and it's not bad for your brain. 200 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay, and then E M D R. 201 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 5: What what you would do is they would have you 202 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: think about being on a plane and some of your 203 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: worst episodes. Get your eyes to go back and forth. 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 5: There's a whole process to it. 205 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's. 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: Actually really good for simple phobias. That sounds like a 207 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 5: specific simple phobia, and it's probably related to some other 208 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: things in your life. 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: But maybe not like loss of control. Maybe right when 210 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: I'm out there, I have no control. 211 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 3: Well, you're a micromanager by nature. You you know you you, 212 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: and I just that that's a bad thing. But that's 213 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: just your personality. And I think the fact that you're 214 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: not in control, I'm not like flying the plane, right, 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: I think that causes Again, I'm not a psychology. 216 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: They don't know plane. So it's probably better you're not flying. 217 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, for sure, it's better that you're and. 218 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 5: You probably aren't going, you know, on a junket with 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: a drunk pilot. You're probably making a thoughtful decision. 220 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: Yes, so E MDR could be helpful and hypnosis. Should 221 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: I try hypnosis? 222 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 5: Or no? You absolutely should? 223 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well why not? Nothing to lose from it? 224 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 5: Make you a tape where you just play it on. Uh, 225 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 5: you know when you're on the flight. 226 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: Okay, No, this is all really good. 227 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: And then every day this is very important. Every day 228 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: you win or you learn that there's no failure. You're 229 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: just always curious and you're not furious. And so you know, 230 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 5: for some women it could be where are they in 231 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 5: their cycle? They're going to be more vulnerable. For some 232 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: did you let your blood shugar go low? And that's 233 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 5: why you had a panic attack? Right, You're in a 234 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: vulnerable situation. Your blood shirter is not great because you've 235 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 5: been on a plane how many times? 236 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: Millions of miles? 237 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: I mean. 238 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: Some flights are worse than others, right, Yes, And I 239 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 5: would just want you to be curious about, you know, 240 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: when do I have the most trouble and and be 241 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: a good student of your own nervous system. 242 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: That's interesting and I would suggest more sleep because you're late. 243 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: You come alive at eleven o'clock. 244 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: I do. 245 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: That's why I thought I also had because I thought 246 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: that's what happened. 247 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Like you, I come alive. 248 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: I do much because I can focus, like I don't 249 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: have all the just distractions. I get a lot done. 250 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: Doctor d amazing. It was such an honor having you on. 251 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: We so appreciate you. 252 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much. I'm so grateful.