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Speaker 1: My son cheated on his pregnant wife and told me

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Speaker 1: he's not prepared for what I'm about to do. John,

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Speaker 1: I'm all in an angel, you know I want to

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Speaker 1: see this that. I think this son cheating on his

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: Ope.

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Speaker 3: He did it because someone was like, I will literally

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Speaker 3: give you a million dollars to bring your entire family

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Speaker 1: OnlyFans lifting families out of poverty since whenever that was founded.

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Speaker 1: My son, twenty eight male, has been married to his

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Speaker 1: high school sweetheart, Olivia twenty six female. Fake name, guys,

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Speaker 1: so don't try to look her up for five years now.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago was my son's birthday. He went out

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Speaker 1: of state with some of his community college friends to

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Speaker 1: spend time at a resort. Olivia had chosen to stay

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Speaker 1: in state as she is heavily pregnant with twins and

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Speaker 1: is at high risk seven months. I told my son

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Speaker 1: to cancel his trip and stay with his wife, but

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Speaker 1: she insisted they go have fun. She's a cool wife

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Speaker 1: like that. She's like, honey, go stay home with the babies,

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Speaker 1: go go with the full community college friends.

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Speaker 2: I love community college friends.

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Speaker 3: Like he couldn't have just said like his, like his friends,

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Speaker 3: his friends in community college college.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, uh op, he is like already just

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Speaker 1: embarrassed by his son, like I'm just getting that vie,

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Speaker 1: his failure.

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Speaker 2: Barely educated gang of miscreants.

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess this is the mom so her

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Speaker 1: her son.

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Speaker 3: Her son, I was saying, like his, like his, my

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Speaker 3: son's gang of miscreants.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yes, I correctly. Aha. I told my son

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Speaker 1: to cancel the trip and stay with his wife, but

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Speaker 1: stay with me so she can stay in bed, and

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Speaker 1: she accepted with some pushing. Now I love Olivia. She

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Speaker 1: is sweet, respectful and like a daughter to me. Her

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Speaker 1: own parents were not so great, so we bonded easily

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Speaker 1: as she dated my son. We talk daily and see

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good good setup, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A good setup. Everything everything's going fine. You know, the

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Speaker 1: son's going out for a little birthday chabang and the

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Speaker 1: gonna be fine. You know, everything is going to turn

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Speaker 1: out perfectly perfect. After my son got home from his trip,

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Speaker 1: I could tell something was off.

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Speaker 2: Oh god.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't accept any drinks I offered him, refused to

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Speaker 2: Cautious.

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Speaker 1: Something seems to miss John. I don't know what. Maybe

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Speaker 1: something happened on the boy's trip.

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Speaker 3: He's nervous about surprising them with the million dollars he

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Speaker 1: Thing, of course, Yes, yeah, that OnlyFans money came in hot,

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Speaker 1: pulling the family out of poverty, one one bang at

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Speaker 1: a time. I asked him over and over why he's

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Speaker 1: went home with Olivia. Throughout the following week, Olivia would

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Speaker 1: how the mom knows all this, like yeah, dude, like

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Speaker 1: Olivia is like talking to her, is like yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: like your son won't bang me like you used to.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to bone mama. He won't do he trying to.

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Speaker 1: Just I'm trying to get these twins a little mixed up,

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Speaker 2: Listen. They say you get strange cravings when you're pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I spoke to my son about it, I got

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Speaker 1: that on his birthday trip, his college friends hooked him

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Speaker 3: They're they're they're building a pergola for the new babies.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, they're working on his uh on his

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: So why would you not use any protection?

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Speaker 1: First of all, what kind of friends are you having

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Speaker 1: What do you think the mom's gonna do? What do

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Speaker 1: I flat out and told him no, and that if

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Speaker 1: cheated again. Yes again. Apparently he cheated on her multiple

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Speaker 1: I can still hear it echoing in my head. I

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Speaker 1: I feel so lost. My son has blocked my number

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we can we get a lot

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Speaker 1: Like this is this is a rough one for sure,

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Speaker 1: Well do you deal in this situation?

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Speaker 3: My father is forcibly inserting himself into my therapy sessions.

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Speaker 1: Okayop, this is okay. Ope. I'm Samuel Dunner and I'm

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Speaker 1: John Fry and we tell the funniest stories on the Internet.

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Speaker 3: So Sam, let me ask you, like if you can

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like basically that exact line, right,

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Speaker 3: But you know they're not Those aren't great situations, I

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Speaker 1: Do you don't want your father forcibly inserting anything into anywhere?

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Speaker 3: Oh good gravy, you do not, Oh goodness, So god,

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Speaker 3: Therapy is supposed to help, but I just don't think

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Speaker 1: Old essentially adulthood? What is official adulthood? Eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Definitely for some a lot of needed context about me.

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Speaker 3: Work right right, Yeah, and especially like I guess she's

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Speaker 3: Like she's doing all the work as a sixteen year old,

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Speaker 3: They wanted to talk to me and my dad, and

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Speaker 3: they asked a lot about my sister and well, my

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Speaker 1: Oh my, this is prison insane, Like I canceled Christmas?

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Speaker 1: How is that helpful? Also, like therapy is so private,

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow man, that's an insane situation. Yeah, dude, I

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Speaker 3: And just all the things, like just the myriad of

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Speaker 1: All this happened. Yeah, I think the dad needs to

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Speaker 3: Miserable, like selling her phone and her three DS to

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