WEBVTT - How To Heal Your Inner Child Feat. Devi Brown

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, you guys. Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.

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<v Speaker 1>On this week's episode, we are joined by Debbie Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the Chief Impact Officer at Choprah. She's also

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<v Speaker 1>a mama author an overall just amazing human. On this

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode, you can expect to hear about healing your

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<v Speaker 1>inner child, identifying trauma, why children need someone to blame, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Man in history is to blame for the unempowered woman and.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little emotional talking about a personal inner

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<v Speaker 1>child realization that just happened. So make sure you guys

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<v Speaker 1>tune in. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode featuring

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie Brown. Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Erica and I'm Mila and it's the first week of April.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy spring hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I know y'all love when I sing, and nobody loves

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<v Speaker 1>it when you say you love when you sing? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you are don't You are fucking off key all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me started.

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<v Speaker 2>See you guys, what I tell you, don't let me

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<v Speaker 2>freestyle on my voice. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's April, and you know we just are we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of money March, which I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed last month because we had some amazing guests. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel very much more empowered about my finances. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited because we are going to be joining Loose Warrior

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<v Speaker 1>for her Wealth Rules Everything Around Me course starting on

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<v Speaker 1>May first and second. I'm pretty sure it's already sold out,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are. She is partnering with us US and

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<v Speaker 1>giving four scholarships to four of our listeners to join

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<v Speaker 1>that class, and it's going to be amazing. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to learn more about finances and feel more empowered,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, follow Loose Warrior because she's the shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And secondly, make sure you keep look out for her

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<v Speaker 1>next course because I think she's going to do another round,

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<v Speaker 1>and look out for that giveaway because you could be

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<v Speaker 1>in class with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're students. We're students again. Yeah, I want to take

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<v Speaker 2>a class. I know I have for like two years.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited to start here with my finances. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>feeling very empowered this April. It's spring. It's time to

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<v Speaker 2>birth some shit. Erica and I are birthing lots of shit,

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<v Speaker 2>so amazing, so many things. So I'm feeling I'm feeling springy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling ready to give birth to all of our

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<v Speaker 2>things and run with it so I can chill by

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<v Speaker 2>the pool in the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get you on that yap, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting on this fucking yacht if it's the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing I do. Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm really excited because this month, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not necessarily a theme per se, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to focus on wellness, tapping back into our wellness,

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<v Speaker 1>checking in with ourselves. You know, at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, we talked a lot about manifestation, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about you know, just healing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just really excited because we have a special guest

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<v Speaker 1>here who I feel like is going to like help,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kickstart this month off really in a really

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<v Speaker 1>amazing way. So Debbie Brown, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I'm so happy to be here with you. Guys. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you guys don't know who Debve is, well

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<v Speaker 1>you will by the end of this episode, and you

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<v Speaker 1>should anyway. She is the chief Impact Officer at Chopra

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<v Speaker 1>and she has her own podcast called Dropping Gems with

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie Brown, which is amazing. Like I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>it on the car ride here and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>screen recording. Should I like to come back to this?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yes, like what so make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>check that out. So, but welcome deVie, Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you big fan of you guys. Really happy to

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<v Speaker 4>be here and talk about all of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, DEBI from like a hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred. We're still young, but so young prior

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<v Speaker 1>to children I just infant prior to children's And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been so cool to watch your journey. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a little bit before the episode and you

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<v Speaker 1>said kind of like you've always been kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tap in into this space, but you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of didn't always feel like the space to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or like yeah you be judged or something. Yeah, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell our listeners a little bit about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I mean speaking to that like that, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>start there. You know, I think when I think about

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<v Speaker 4>being a seeker and just kind of being on.

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<v Speaker 5>This path, part of what lent itself to that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if anyone will identify with this,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I was the only child raised by a

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<v Speaker 4>single mom, and I was a latchkey kid for many years,

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<v Speaker 4>and like by nature of that, you go inside, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I was my only playmate as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I never thought about that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was only child till I was like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And so usually, especially if you have a single parent,

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<v Speaker 4>it lends itself to kind of like a high level

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<v Speaker 4>of maturity really young, and you're navigating with a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of adult language, like adult understanding, even if you're not

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<v Speaker 4>ready for it. So it kind of lends itself to

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot of natural ability to be in self inquiry,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think is the foundation of our spiritual journey.

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<v Speaker 5>It's curiosity.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how we get to change, that's how we get

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<v Speaker 4>to grow, that's how we get to heal. We get

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<v Speaker 4>really curious about ourselves or our situations or how our

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<v Speaker 4>life is unfolded, and we start seeking out the things.

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<v Speaker 5>That we feel called to.

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<v Speaker 4>So that like to that extent, like I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I would consider myself I was the kid that, like

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<v Speaker 4>the teenager that had self help books didn't apply most

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait were they chickens through to the teenage song are?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the seven highly effective, you know, traits of teens and.

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<v Speaker 1>You were reading that as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're very mature. Wow I was cold. This whatetererever?

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<v Speaker 3>That too?

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out to duality.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, you know I think, I mean it took

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<v Speaker 4>me years to apply as I think is the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we get the tools, but it's like when we

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<v Speaker 4>embody is just about our divine timing.

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<v Speaker 5>So like, intellectually I had the tools.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't always use them, but then as I got older,

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<v Speaker 4>they started sinking into my heart and started being like

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<v Speaker 4>a way of being. But yeah, I started my career

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<v Speaker 4>in entertainment. That's how we met in the entertainment world

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<v Speaker 4>many moons ago, and I was a radio personality for

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<v Speaker 4>a while, did some TV, mostly worked in hip hop

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<v Speaker 4>for close to fifteen years, and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>It fed my curiosity in so many ways. I loved

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<v Speaker 5>the music.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you know, I really felt called to spend

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<v Speaker 4>like my three D life more connected to what my

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<v Speaker 4>five D life looked like. So like I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>make the world that I was in for my work

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<v Speaker 4>on Earth to also be more representative about how I

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<v Speaker 4>actually spent my private time and like what I actually

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<v Speaker 4>thought about and.

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<v Speaker 5>What I was actually interested in it.

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<v Speaker 4>It got harder, like I don't even in this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't watch television at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I listened to.

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<v Speaker 4>The same three songs over and over frequency music like

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<v Speaker 4>so it was just harder to stay or to feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I had to really be enthusiastic about things that

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<v Speaker 4>didn't feel like they're of interest to me in that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>So I took the leap.

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<v Speaker 4>Almost almost five years ago, I started my business Karma Bliss,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the wellness kind of revolution really started happening

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<v Speaker 4>and deepening in.

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<v Speaker 5>That time span.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I take up space in a multitude of ways,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I just mostly underneath it all, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>grateful for the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>To lead a really curious life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. And I know that you're a mother too,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a little boy, how well is same?

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<v Speaker 3>He will be three in May, when like, what a

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<v Speaker 3>lucky child.

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<v Speaker 1>You've right to have a mom that's done so much work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and like I think for me and Mila too,

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<v Speaker 1>like we I think being a parent allows you this

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<v Speaker 1>unique opportunity to kind of like do everything that do

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<v Speaker 1>everything over like question the things that you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>knowing and change that perspective for your child, give them

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<v Speaker 1>like more space and more grace in so many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's you know, and play time, you know, boys

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<v Speaker 1>playing with Marbie's and not being judged, or like little

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<v Speaker 1>girls wearing crop tops and not like you know, sexualizes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or mom smoking weed and it not being the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the motherfucking world, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Just giving your child the gift of like taking a

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<v Speaker 2>time out, identifying your feelings and labeling your emotions and

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<v Speaker 2>like where our parents are like, right, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, You're okay, right, you are alive. So it's like, what

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<v Speaker 3>a gift to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to have a mom that's aware and is doing

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<v Speaker 2>the work and then offer that because I think that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that has been a big part of our journey, like

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<v Speaker 2>figuring ourselves out and then in turn and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, we have this huge responsibility to not only

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<v Speaker 2>figure ourselves out, but figure it out as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>because we are an example of someone else, yeah, who

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<v Speaker 2>inevitably will have to be figuring it out in their

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<v Speaker 2>thirties if we don't start doing the work now so

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<v Speaker 2>they can start doing the work now.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that yeah, and it's like, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what feels so good being a parent and like parenting

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<v Speaker 4>with such thoughtfulness and such consideration. It's like every time

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<v Speaker 4>we extend that kind of grace and dignity and unconditional

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<v Speaker 4>love to our kid, we're just feeding it right back

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<v Speaker 4>to ourselves. It's instantly filling our own hearts and healing

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<v Speaker 4>wounds from childhood or giving us permission to like expand

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<v Speaker 4>into the fullest versions that we are right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's wild. Like before I had a child, I legitimately

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<v Speaker 4>used to think people over exaggerated about how much they

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<v Speaker 4>love their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like, Okay, we got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I got It'd be like that my kid is my

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<v Speaker 4>world and I'd be like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gave birth, it's a child.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm like, oh my god, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>deepest taking life right, it's the greatest hit my sacred child.

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<v Speaker 3>Like obsessed with being a mother, I could cry at

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<v Speaker 3>the drop of the dime.

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<v Speaker 1>At the bat. Right now I'm literally free.

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<v Speaker 3>She's frollicking in the sand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they're watering nothing. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>And see, you know what was like the greatest gift

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<v Speaker 4>for me and being a mom? I feel like it

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<v Speaker 4>healed when you stay open to it. Because motherhood is

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<v Speaker 4>also one of the most triggering experiences you'll ever have

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<v Speaker 4>in your life. Like you feel judged by your child,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, like if your kid is mad at

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<v Speaker 4>you or doesn't want kisses, it's me, what's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, by yourself. You feel judged by yourself, judge

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<v Speaker 4>by your own parents. Yes, the guilt, you know. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh God, everyone is running to check on you with

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<v Speaker 4>your pregnant and then the second the baby is here,

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<v Speaker 4>like my organs are still all over the place, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're doing it wrong, and you're still doing it wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're like, oh, but how's the baby. Why aren't

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<v Speaker 5>you doing more for the baby? Where is she?

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<v Speaker 1>You're ware and she's ware. Why aren't you together?

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<v Speaker 5>It is so it's oh God, so many things.

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<v Speaker 4>But to it's like, like, my child looks exactly like me, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like my son. We have the exact same face, still.

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<v Speaker 5>My whole face.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's interesting because through loving him, especially as a newborn,

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to love myself more deeply, Like it

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<v Speaker 4>really brought forward for me all any any like dormant

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<v Speaker 4>againstness I had for myself, any feelings of not being

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<v Speaker 4>in full acceptance of myself bounced off him. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>even the small things that we might see in our

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<v Speaker 4>faces and be like, oh I don't like that about me,

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<v Speaker 4>I see it in his face and I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I need to be reflecting this same kind of energy

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<v Speaker 4>back to myself. I have to love me the same

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<v Speaker 4>way that I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I love that. It's so true. It does.

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<v Speaker 1>It does tap into those dormant parts of yourself like

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<v Speaker 1>you are like maybe ignored or maybe you didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize we're there, and you're like, oh shit, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not healed.

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<v Speaker 2>It also gives you the opportunity, Like I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you would do anything for your child, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they mess up or they fall down, and

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<v Speaker 2>you encourage them and you're there to their every every

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<v Speaker 2>you know, back and call.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it dawned on me like I have to

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<v Speaker 3>have the mother myself. I have the mother.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to attend to myself the way I attend

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<v Speaker 2>to my child and like be as gracious and as

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<v Speaker 2>gentle and like you're going to fall down and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get back up, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's easy to apply that to when

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<v Speaker 2>you're mothering a child because we're just we're innately we

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<v Speaker 2>know to do that hopefully, but we forget to do

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<v Speaker 2>that for ourselves, and then we beat ourselves up so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a lot of us are just children.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm a child all the time. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>who the fuck gave me? And human I'm scared. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, just to eat. Yeah, she's six, and I'm still.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's my daughter, that's my daughter, that's my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and mother, that's my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like us talking about boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like, I have a boyfriend. We have a boo boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have boyfriends anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But so that one time that we did, we got really.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange time because that's how aligned we are. Got boyfriends

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, pretty much broke up at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. It was it was like we had to

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<v Speaker 1>practice saying that. I feel like that sometimes with Ironman,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I obviously know I've a child

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<v Speaker 1>and she's mine, but sometimes I look at her and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>How are we here? We're here, We're still here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a teenager, like what Yeah, And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>About like my younger self, and I was so adamant

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<v Speaker 1>about never having kids, like I was really like, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not want kids at all. It's funny. I was

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<v Speaker 1>having this conversation with my brother because he was judging

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<v Speaker 1>my parenting and he was like, he was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>because you're two this and.

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<v Speaker 3>That, but which brother, my twenty one year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old Oh of course, of course, someone with no children, no,

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<v Speaker 2>neither one of my brothers, no, right, no experience it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he was like he was talking it was

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<v Speaker 1>her eating habits, because my daughter's eating habits. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just very annoying. She's just very Eric is ashamed,

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<v Speaker 1>very we're making tiny progress, okay. But she had turkey

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<v Speaker 1>pasta the other day. No, it wasn't there, but she

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<v Speaker 1>liked it and it was sated. But he was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, you're to this, you're to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, one day, when you have kids, you'll understand, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, I'm not having kids. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like and That's what I said, and he's like, no

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<v Speaker 1>for real, and I was like, no, for real, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, Like with that Gusto behind it too,

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<v Speaker 1>like hell no. And now having one obviously, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine not having one and just totally shifts so much

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<v Speaker 1>in you and make sure you have to tap into yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I think that's what. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to do the taro or we can do

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end, but I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good segue into what I wanted to talk to you about,

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<v Speaker 1>which was healing your inner child and how important it

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<v Speaker 1>is and how it can be a lifelong journey. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's just like this one switch that

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<v Speaker 1>like just turns on and suddenly like all the traumas

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<v Speaker 1>or all the things that you've encountered as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>or just you know they're healed. But it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to tap into and check in

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<v Speaker 1>on often. And I was listening to your episode about

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<v Speaker 1>meeting your inner child, and I was listening and I

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<v Speaker 1>totally connected to when you were saying that, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>the strong friend and that people lead on you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you started you started that, like valuing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>by how much you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Take much hurt you could take? Yeah, how much?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my god, like we do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not just the strong friend, but like women

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<v Speaker 1>women It's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm okay, you know what, Like you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>think about all the time when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, who was the first man that hated women?

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<v Speaker 4>And how did he train everyone else to take his ways?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, It's like what was the shift? Because women

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<v Speaker 4>were always at the forefront of society and the forefront

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<v Speaker 4>of households.

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<v Speaker 5>We were the healers, we were the leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>And then at some point things shifted, and then all

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<v Speaker 4>books were written with women in a diminished role or

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<v Speaker 4>not mentioned at all, you know, and all of a

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<v Speaker 4>sudden women became.

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<v Speaker 3>Some research.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gotta be a trail back to this nigga. Okay, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Broke this nigga's heart, and it's the world has never

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<v Speaker 2>been the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Facebook group, Alexander, who the fuck did it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yo?

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<v Speaker 4>I think about it all the time because like even

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<v Speaker 4>in the little things, like I'm one of those people

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<v Speaker 4>that will like have an idea and then be like

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<v Speaker 4>so committed to it and go down all the rabbit holes.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like little things, right, like when even we

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<v Speaker 4>think of, like in Christianity, how Mary Magdalene.

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<v Speaker 1>Is referred to.

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<v Speaker 4>We're supposed to believe that she was a prostitute. That

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<v Speaker 4>was never written or mentioned. She was one of Christ's disciples,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And it's like the six in the six

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds or the I think it was like the early

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen hundreds, one of the popes was giving an address

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<v Speaker 4>and put one line in it that referred to her

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<v Speaker 4>as like a woman of the night. Unsubstantiated. It was

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<v Speaker 4>never in recorded history that this was truth, and then

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<v Speaker 4>the men of the world ran with it, and ever

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<v Speaker 4>since that's been part of the belief system that that's

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<v Speaker 4>who she was. It was like one guy started a

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<v Speaker 4>rumor about a woman and then okay, well.

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<v Speaker 1>We got that billions we found him t.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like we think about shocking Actually, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's a rid of a lot of evil. Is

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<v Speaker 3>the root of a hurt man? Oh my gosh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of evil letics.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we all get saddled with this this idea

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<v Speaker 4>of martyrdom being the basis of our value system, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like martyrdom.

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<v Speaker 4>Is always self sacrificing, it's never allowing help, it's taking

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<v Speaker 4>pride in all of the ways in which you are,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, considered really considered just a tool and service

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<v Speaker 4>to everyone else, you know. And it's like that somehow

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<v Speaker 4>became the fabric of what the family structure in this

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<v Speaker 4>country was supposed to look like, what women were supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to look like. And it's like, nah, nah, not no more.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not taking on any of that mess. Like my

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<v Speaker 4>love for myself comes first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, No, I totally agree. And I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's like, I mean, I feel like throughout history there

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<v Speaker 1>have been times where women there's been like this renaissance happening,

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<v Speaker 1>right and I feel like right now there's a black

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<v Speaker 1>renaissance happening. There's also like a renaissance of like female

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<v Speaker 1>energy coming together and feeling more empowered and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to say no, I don't believe that history, actually, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. That doesn't sound about I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't work for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very off brand for me about Pope the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>to me, don't do.

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<v Speaker 3>Some researching it back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, it's true. It's true. I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy who's like has a lot of rules,

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<v Speaker 2>and recently he was trying to like really really justify

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<v Speaker 2>why he should be able to like have a main

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<v Speaker 2>woman and a wife and like also have concubines and

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<v Speaker 2>like women on the side, but like but his wife

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<v Speaker 2>should not, you know. And I was just like he

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<v Speaker 2>was going into science saying there's more women and there

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<v Speaker 2>are men and like all these things, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I respect that for you, and I that

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<v Speaker 2>is really that sounds really good for you. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you'll ever find anyone who's gonna be cool

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<v Speaker 2>with those rules.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hear your science and all, but it

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't This is not a brand for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I'm not gonna I don't have concubines too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not the basic.

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<v Speaker 2>Fairness in it all just doesn't add up like one

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<v Speaker 2>plus one just you know, equals to sounds a little stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just I mean, I know that works for

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<v Speaker 2>some people, and I'm not you know, I appreciate anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who knows what they want, but I'm at the place

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<v Speaker 2>finally in my life hopefully forever, but that that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're cool, and that's cool for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you find someone who's aligned in that, great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not me, you know, like, and I'm cool

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<v Speaker 2>being cool here and we could stay here, but anything

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<v Speaker 2>further the concubines down the line is not gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But for so long, women just are like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever, you're gonna love me, you're gonna take me,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna provide. Okay, no, no, there will be no

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<v Speaker 2>more mekas. Okay, Like it's okay to submit, but if

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't align for you, that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay to search yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>For what feels like the right thing for you and

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<v Speaker 4>not be dictated to like, this is our one life

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<v Speaker 4>as this version of ourselves. I've been here a million times,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is my one life as this person, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like, that's the thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 4>the most ridiculous of what we were robbed of. It

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<v Speaker 4>is the understanding that we always have choice as women,

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<v Speaker 4>We always have choice, and we have been trained and

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<v Speaker 4>forced and pushed to believe that we're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>waiting around to be chosen, and it's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 4>do the choosing. I do the choosing. I choose who

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<v Speaker 4>I want. I also choose what my circumstance is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be. And at any moment we can make another choice.

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<v Speaker 4>There's never such a thing as like truly missed opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>or misstability to change your life. In every moment there

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<v Speaker 4>is choice. There'll be the parameters that come with that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, which sometimes can be quite challenging, but you

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<v Speaker 4>always have the chance to recreate your life, or recreate

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<v Speaker 4>your partnership, or recreate your parenthood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I agree, I agree. There's never a like. I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes even women they're like, who are maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>in their fifties or in their late forties, or kids

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<v Speaker 1>or teenagers, they're like, it's too late for me, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely not. It's not too late. It's never too late.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how old you are. There's always a

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<v Speaker 1>time to check in with yourself and change the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of your life or change your views, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>heal from your.

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<v Speaker 2>Childhood or I feel like almost like attaching to something

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<v Speaker 2>too deeply with like, I think that's an issue we

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<v Speaker 2>attach to our beliefs even and then we feel a

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility to keeping them up, Yeah, to keep them up,

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<v Speaker 2>to always be that way, to always agree with them,

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<v Speaker 2>to withhold like, you know, I'm a Christian, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>ever fucking be a Jew, you know, Like I'm this

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<v Speaker 2>you good, That's what I'm saying. Oh, people have so

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<v Speaker 2>much attachment to their beliefs that almost there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of embarrassment if you want to fucking change your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But guess what, you can change your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You can wake up every day and change your mind

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what it is, in love, in life and parenthood.

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<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't work for you, if it no longer

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<v Speaker 2>serves you.

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<v Speaker 3>You could peace out quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no obligation to always believe one thing, to always

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<v Speaker 2>be one way we are in fact, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't change, if you don't evolve, if you're not growing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't expect to be the same person

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<v Speaker 2>who believes and feels the same way forever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, catch me next week. I might be a

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<v Speaker 2>wife with three concubines.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt that, but you know what I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>just like we have such an attachment as women, what

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to look like and fit so pretty into

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<v Speaker 2>this perfect box and what that looks like, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that makes us lose a great sense of who we are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it could look different from woman to woman, like

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<v Speaker 2>me and Ericas are crazy together, but we're also very different,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I just I want to celebrate the

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<v Speaker 2>differences and the change and the evolution, the growth, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think women have had the opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 2>in celebration of that enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, we're the more powerful species obviously, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like in many ways, you know, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's really the greatest lie I ever told. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's probably why that first man, whoever he is, like

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<v Speaker 4>what would his name even be, you know, like asshole,

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably why he turned everybody against us back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like, we have to remember our personal power.

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<v Speaker 4>And that has been the greatest tool of manipulation of

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<v Speaker 4>women through history is leading women to believe that we

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<v Speaker 4>are meek, leading women to believe that we are in

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<v Speaker 4>need of being led and that we're not the leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>And that narrative starts so early, so you know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, obviously, yeah, that is an amazing time for women

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<v Speaker 1>and us feeling more empowered and.

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<v Speaker 3>Tracy back from Pope six beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>But like as far as like you know, he your

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<v Speaker 1>inner child, I think I think some people, some people

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<v Speaker 1>I think feel healed, right, yeah, And but as an

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<v Speaker 1>outsider looking I know, I've met people they're like, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm healed. I healed from that, and.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, oh honey, yeah, maybe even including myself, I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like sometimes I feel like I've healed from things

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<v Speaker 7>and then it takes something a triggering moment for me

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<v Speaker 7>to be like, oh shit, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, so what are some what do you think are

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<v Speaker 1>some signs that maybe you have some inner healing and

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<v Speaker 1>child inner healing to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Through, you know, I think, and that like that's such

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<v Speaker 4>a beautiful point about this like idea of like are

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<v Speaker 4>we fully healed? Because what I think it really is

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<v Speaker 4>is in every moment, there's opportunity to deepen the healing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And it's like it's so important to not

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<v Speaker 4>look at it as like, oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Why am I getting so bothered by this?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I spent so much time I thought I was healed,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like you are, and you were and you

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<v Speaker 4>did diligent, beautiful work which arrived you at this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to get to an even deeper life that

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<v Speaker 4>is clearing you and cleansing you and giving you more

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<v Speaker 4>personal power.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like some of the stuff that.

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<v Speaker 4>We are working through is very literally our life's curriculum,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So many of the situations that for us

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<v Speaker 4>are like the deepest traumas or like the repeated patterns.

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<v Speaker 4>It's there because that is actually the curriculum we signed

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<v Speaker 4>up to know and to learn on. I believe this

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<v Speaker 4>adventure on earth that we chose to have, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>always more healing available. And I think anybody that stands

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<v Speaker 4>in a space of againstness, like no, I'm not willing

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about that because I already healed it, that

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<v Speaker 4>shows that there's charge, you know. And I think the

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<v Speaker 4>way to investigate where your wounds are are to see

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<v Speaker 4>what do I have charge?

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<v Speaker 1>About?

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<v Speaker 4>What am I avoiding even in the tiniest ways, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like the biggest gift is just being able

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<v Speaker 4>to dive into it. Like I get so excited when

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<v Speaker 4>I have more shadow work to do. Like if I

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<v Speaker 4>find myself crying about something, I'd.

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<v Speaker 5>Be like, oh, there's a gift inness for me. Okay,

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 5>I'll sit in it, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a beautiful way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's like, you know, it wouldn't be there

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 4>if I didn't need to look at it. So how

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<v Speaker 4>much time do I want to waste? Right when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes up? Do I want to try to run from it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do? So?

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<v Speaker 4>The more I do that, the more it stays with me,

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<v Speaker 4>right versus all right, you popped up for a reason,

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<v Speaker 4>divine timing. Let me sit down, let me look at this,

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<v Speaker 4>let me explore it, let me think about it, and

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<v Speaker 4>then once you decide to dive into it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so easy to dissolve.

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<v Speaker 4>But I definitely think if we're you know, the way

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<v Speaker 4>that that inner child wounding shows up is really everything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, like it's really everything any.

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<v Speaker 4>Level of toxicity in your life, any way that that

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<v Speaker 4>shows itself, typically there's always a pathway in a trail

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 4>that leads back to a very specific moment in childhood.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 4>And the reason that really those like inner child wounds

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<v Speaker 4>some times are so deep and so hard to look at,

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<v Speaker 4>it's because they really usually revolve around us in our

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<v Speaker 4>most vulnerable space as a child, and then we take

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<v Speaker 4>on judgment for how we responded as a child. And

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like we're looking back at that same wounding

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<v Speaker 4>with child eyes and child relatability and child charge inside

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 4>of ourselves instead of saying, you know what, in this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>I am a woman. I'm a grown woman. So let

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 4>me look back on those childhood wounds through the lens

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 4>of this adult who now better understands life. You know,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 4>like our wounding in childhood really stems from lack of

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<v Speaker 4>experience and us attributing meaning to the things that happened

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<v Speaker 4>to us with a very limited language and a very

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 4>limited understanding of the world. So when we're coming in

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 4>to repair and to heal and dissolve, we have to

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 4>come to it with the rational understanding of this happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a kid, I interpreted it as this, which

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 4>then lent itself to me, layering more and more on

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 4>top of it. Or this stem from my parent. You

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<v Speaker 4>know a lot of wounding comes from our parents or

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 4>the adults in our lives. And the reason it feels

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<v Speaker 4>so hard to heal is because our parents are our

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<v Speaker 4>first God, you know, like our family structure is our earth.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know that there's more world available to us.

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely don't know how it works. So if we

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<v Speaker 4>feel this conflict about our parents, it's almost like we're

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<v Speaker 4>in conflict with God because we're still looking at them

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<v Speaker 4>through that lens, and so like being able to shed

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<v Speaker 4>that is also and I know this can feel really

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 4>tender for people, depending on what your parental experience was.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a multitude of ways that you know, people experience

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<v Speaker 4>like deep hardship and the really the things that feel

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<v Speaker 4>unmentionable about our lives, sometimes at the hands of our parents.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's really important that we're investigating that wounding or

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<v Speaker 4>that timeline to do it from the space of an

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<v Speaker 4>adult who is now equipped with more emotional language, is more.

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<v Speaker 5>Equipped with like what are the processes of.

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<v Speaker 4>Being an adult? Things that you know, sometimes we take

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<v Speaker 4>personally as kids. It's like when we become adults, you're like, oh, yeah,

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't because I wasn't wanted or neglected, like my

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 4>mom had to go to work, right, you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>like or you know, this happened or this circumstance. Adult

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 4>life is complicated, and the circumstance lent itself to me

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<v Speaker 4>feeling like this but if I look at it from

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<v Speaker 4>the lens of what is true from an adult perspective,

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 4>does it still have to hurt me? Is there opportunity

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 4>for me to re experience it, apply my understanding of

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<v Speaker 4>now and.

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<v Speaker 5>Give it some grace and give it some healing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's so important. And I never even

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>really looked at it that way, as like putting Erica

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>as an adult in those adults and looking at it

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like is that really what happened? Or let you know,

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it's so crazy too, because even today I was met

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>with something that was really triggering for me, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is, and I'm just listening to you now

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<v Speaker 1>I realize I correlated the two, is that I was

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>triggered today because there is a healing that has to

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>happen for me amongst me and like my stepfather who

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like and for me, And it's rooted in my relationship

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>with my father, who me and my father didn't really

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>have a relationship and he didn't show up for me

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>in that way. And it's different now, but we're more

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>so friends than we are like fatherly daughterly. Yeah, and

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>my stepdad never really took on the role of being

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>my father. Really, I think he didn't want to, like

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't. He just kind of he didn't know how to.

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know how to do it, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>and as a child, I was angry about that and

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>upset by that and.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt like, well, you should have tried harder.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Who cares if I said, you're not my dad, Like

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you should have tried harder.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And today, like we had an interaction that really

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>triggered me, that irritated me, and it felt like he

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't showing up for me again.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>And I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, like, and it triggered me because my dad didnt

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>show up for me and like you're supposed to be

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>my other dad, Like yeah, And so today I, for

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the first time ever, I messaged him and I was like,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>we should probably talk, and like I know that he'll

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>never do that, like he'll never reach out to me.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>So like as an adult, I'm the child, but I'm

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>also I'm an adult now, and like I don't want

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to have that experience anymore. I don't want to keep

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>repeating this feeling because sometimes we're like in great spirits

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>together and then other times I'm like what happened? Like

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>did I do something?

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Like why are we here?

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Like what's going on? And it felt good to like

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it did feel good because I was feeling a lot

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>of anxiety today. I was angry, and then I was like,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I just needed to like talk to him. Why don't

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I just talk to him? Because I'm because I wanted

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>my dad to talk to me and he and he

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of did, but not really. I wanted him to

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to me and he's not. But I'm an adult,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>so I can go to him and I can heal

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that part of me and even put myself as an

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>adult in the shoes of myself then and our interaction

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>then and try to understand why he has chosen, why

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he did some of the things that he did. Yeah,

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just now, I mean, obviously it's today. It's

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like day one of embarking on this journey hopefully with

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>him and like healing that and hopefully it'll help heal

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>parts of my relationship with my own father too. Yeah,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but being able to like be adult about it is

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>something that you just said that I didn't even realize.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I kind of applied today. So that's so it's first

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of all, like alignment is so real. I'm so glad you're.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 3>Here right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm gonna cry because I'm just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's been like a long time coming in my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the men in my life because I haven't

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>always felt safe and I haven't always felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>could depend on them. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, I don't.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be that way. Sometimes it's just

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a conversation that has to happen. So he feels like

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>he's given given permission to show up for me that way. Yeah,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, And it's so like, one, I

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<v Speaker 4>just like, really prize you for doing that because.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so challenging.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Like that's so challenging because it's also feels, you know,

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 4>there's a piece of you that feels like why do

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 4>I got to be the one to do this?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of like the stance I've always taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like that's not serving me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's this is so powerful, Like this is the stance

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<v Speaker 4>of like a really powerful, awakened person. And it's like

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 4>remembering our personal power is so important because we find

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 4>ourselves and this is just biologically how it works, how

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 4>like the programming of our brain and our hearts really

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 4>operates with certain people, we will fall into a role

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 4>that is not.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually who we are or how we show up in

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<v Speaker 5>the world.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is especially true when it comes to family

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 4>and family enmeshment. Like it's really it's like you could

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 4>be killing it in a boardroom, you could be leading

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 4>in all these ways, but you get home and it's like, oh, yes, sir,

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 4>or okay, or no one listens to me or you know,

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, it's always beautiful opportunity for us to

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 4>continue to anchor in the truth of who we are

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 4>in this moment. I think, like I definitely have two

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 4>thoughts around what she said. You know, a piece that's

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 4>powerful but really challenging, and.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 5>It takes a lot, a lot, a lot of practice.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 4>So anybody listening, it's okay if you don't get it

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 4>the first try the second third, like it'll come with

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the practice. But as frustrating as it feels, especially if

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 4>we've been wounded by the adults that knew us as children,

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>it's so important to realize like adults are flawed, like

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 4>which we know now, Like we think about our friends

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 4>and their wounding, we think about our wounding like adults

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 4>are highly problematic, but we were children and we were

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 4>viewing them as safety. We were also trained to view

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 4>them as that by television, by film, Like every American

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 4>ideal for family structure was built around this. You know,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 4>two parent household, two parents, and you were made in

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 4>love and you know they wanted to have you, and

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 4>then they raised you and always put you at the forefront,

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<v Speaker 4>and they had a college plan available to you, and

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 4>the mom was on the pta and the father provided

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 4>and we have thisby and if they weren't safe and

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 4>they unconditionally love us, well, news flash, that is not

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 4>true for ninety eight percent of people living. But there

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 4>are these like unicorns that have been crafted as a

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 4>legend for which our family structure, it's created, this comparable

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 4>ideal forever and it's not true for any of us,

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 4>like it really isn't. And when we give ourselves that

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 4>freedom that none almost none of us you know, had

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 4>that experience, it frees our hearts so deeply because it's

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 4>the comparison that hurts when we settle into the what

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 4>is this is the parent I was given? There is

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 4>spiritual curriculum to that. What do I need to know

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 4>about this? How is this meant to actually be a

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 4>gift to me, you know, And it's hard because sometimes

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 4>those gifts are so painful, you know. And also a

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 4>piece of it, we don't speak to enough as adults

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 4>now that we're in these mental health conversations. So many

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 4>adults from our childhoods have personality disorders, They have undiagnosed

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 4>mental illness or personality disorders or complex post traumatic stress

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 4>or PTSD. They were barely surviving the things that happened

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 4>to them, but they didn't have the language, and they

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 4>didn't they didn't have the resources that so many of

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 4>us have. Now It's like there are books, now, there

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 4>are groups.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 5>Now I can.

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Open my Instagram, Like it cracks me up when I

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 4>open Instagram on some of these psychology pages I follow

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 4>because I'm like, I spent three thousand dollars on that

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 4>breakthrough over that years, and today I get to scroll

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 4>it and get the truths.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 5>So simply, like, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have things and we're having conversations that our parents never

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 4>got to have either, you know. And when we go

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 4>down that like family tree, it's like so many of

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 4>our parents were in deep pain and survived abuse and

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 4>for them, for some for some of them, you know,

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like something we say right now that I said

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot that I had to really get more humble about,

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, I'm breaking the chains. I'm the ancestral

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>freedom for my lineage. Like you know, I am the

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>person that came to Earth at this time to heal

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 4>my whole family line. And I think everyone thought they

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 4>were doing that, you know, like every like some of

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 4>the things that I have against this about with my upbringing,

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 4>it was literally one hundred times better than how my

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 4>mom was raised, you know.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:34.720
<v Speaker 5>And it's like so for her.

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<v Speaker 4>There was so much honor and so much thoughtfulness and

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 4>what she thought was the parenting she never got.

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 5>But to me, that parenting still felt flawed, you know.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 5>And it's like it's because.

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<v Speaker 4>We're each coming here with our individual recipe of what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm welcome, and people aren't always.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes me so scared to be a parent. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're so scared to say I am. I

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm I'm showing. I'm showing her all these

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>new things. And what if she grows up and it's

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like not enough, Mom?

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Will I break it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that's the thing, is like we

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 2>it is unavoidable to fuck up. It's yeah, I mean

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it is like we're not perfect. This is not perfect.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>And I think like there's no instruction book. When you're

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 2>handed a baby. It's almost like it's the most shocking

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 2>shit you'll ever do. Like you said, you're pregnant. Everyone's

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>so nice to you and they send your ass home

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and you're like help, you know, And I just feel

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 2>like and it's something I'm sure we've all had to

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 2>deal with, Like you're about to come to tears talking

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 2>about a conversation how with your stepdad.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 3>And it just reminds me like.

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>There has been there's been a lot of pivotal points

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 2>in my adulthood where I had to like look at

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 2>myself and look at my parents and accept that they

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>are just people. They are children, Yeah, they are all

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 2>They're healing, they're working through it, and like had to

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>really come to that anger and that frustration and that sadness,

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>that shit, you know, Like like there are many times

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I would just get in a conversation they want to

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>talk to me, and I want to cry.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh my bit, you're thirty years old. Why are you

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 3>about to cry? Because it's such a sensitive topic.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It's unhealed, because it's so easy to just be that

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>teenage hurt wounded not herd girl again, you know, and

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.240
<v Speaker 2>to be pissed and frustrated and like, fuck, you should

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 2>know this, Like you're fucking up. You know, you're talking

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>shit to me, but you're fucking up because I feel

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 2>like that, you know what I mean, and just taking

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>having the grace to say, oh my god, Like my

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>mom is just a child, she's just a little girl.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 3>She's still figuring it out.

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:23.479
<v Speaker 5>She's still so.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Hurt, you know, like she's blamed things like because she

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>misses her mom, Like she's she's a human person, you know,

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's taken a lot of those conversations with myself,

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>even in like my adulthood and evolving and trying to grow,

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>or then looking at my parents and like, oh my god,

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>you guys are fucking teenagers. But I think a part

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:44.959
<v Speaker 2>of it is, like we have to accept that there's

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>no part of our parenting that's perfect. We are imperfect people.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's by design, right, Because like you said, I

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 2>liked what you do. I love what you said about

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the curriculum of life. Every fucking single experience, every interaction,

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>every relationship, including family are as a part of the

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 2>curriculum of life. Like I do believe that we choose

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 2>our parents, and I know, like some people don't want

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to hear that, but there are lessons in that, those

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.959
<v Speaker 2>those relationships closest to you that you have to heal

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>and learn and figure out. And I'm still figuring it out,

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, accepting people and like, are my parents as

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>who they are. And I think one of the biggest

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 2>things I've tried to apply because lord knows, I may

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>not be doing this parenting thing completely right because I'm

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a little crazy, but like it's just letting my daughter

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>see me vulnerable letting her know, like I don't have

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 2>all the answers, like letting her know I messed up.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm sad. Like the other day I cried and she's

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 2>right here. I cried in front of Luna and she

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, why are you crying? And I was like,

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. Just hug me, hug me,

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, But like I don't. And

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I've seen my mom cry and there were things, but

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>just sometimes it just takes being vocal and vulnerable, and

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 2>even if your kid is six, you know, and I

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>think I think our parents thought that was deeply traumatizing

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 2>to not let your kid know that you didn't have

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 2>everything all together.

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was like.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Everything's fine, everything's fine, the bills are paid. I'm so happy, Like, no,

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you're not to lose your shit.

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 4>Everybody was so hyper vigilant because even that is such

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 4>a layered experience. It's like for us it would be like,

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 4>why mom, were you not just more vulnerable with me?

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 4>And then it's like for a mom of that generation,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 4>especially a woman of color, you were pushed into this

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 4>this unwanted role of forced resilience all the time, Like

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>society didn't give a shit about what you were walking through.

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 4>So you probably not only didn't even.

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Vocalize it outside of yourself to.

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Anyone, because you knew it when it matter and when

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 4>it changed, but you didn't even vocalize it to yourself.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 4>So the ability to be vulnerable is not even a possibility.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not even you don't even recognize it in yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone expressing it to someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>And I experience that now, like, oh, Erica, like you're

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not okay. I'm like, maybe you're right.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't even realize that you're not okay

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>until you've given yourself the grace to say it to

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>yourself out loud.

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's such a powerful thing, Like in exploring the

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 2>inner child is like first you have to identify that

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>those that those wounds even exist, and then you have

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to dig back into your your deep subconscious about exactly

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the moment and experiences and interactions that you've had that

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 2>contributed to how you act out in adulthood. Because I've

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<v Speaker 2>i was listening to your podcast, I've experienced a lot

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>of ways, like drinking, you know, I've feend a lot

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of my twenties and now like excessively drinking, or like

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>unnecessary sex and unnecessary relationships and toxic love and just

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling comforted by that toxicity because I'm actively avoiding dealing

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 2>with my fucking self, you know, because that hurts too much.

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, if toxicity is our normal, we're just craving home,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like we're just craving that same dynamic that

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 4>we were so used to and that was the foundation

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.919
<v Speaker 4>of our beans. So it's like even sometimes when we

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<v Speaker 4>want more for ourselves, we continue these loops in these

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.359
<v Speaker 4>patterns because that is what was illustrated as safety to.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Us trauma bonds.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really learned that, like the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was backstepping and backstepping and backstaffing with my.

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Bad Luna go blame God, Oh my business.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm backstepping and then like just these toxic cycles of

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<v Speaker 2>such pain. But I was literally putting myself in the

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<v Speaker 2>position actively raising my hand to get there. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it took me a long time and realized, like

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<v Speaker 2>and I would even notice. I would when things would

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 2>start to feel panicked in my regular life, even if

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>they were already like high stressed, I would seek that

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 2>even though if it heightened, it would heighten the discomfort,

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>my sadness. But I saw that with my parents. I

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>saw my parents have toxic relationships my entire life, yelling

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and screaming and acting crazy and coming and going, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I saw myself attached to that in my adulthood

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and in ways that the relationships mirrored so much it

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<v Speaker 2>scared the shit out of me, you know.

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 3>But I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actively doing it to myself and then getting so mad

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<v Speaker 2>at myself because A, I know the results, be you

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 2>keep doing it, be you keep doing it, you keep

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>doing it, you keep doing it, and then finding some

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 2>weird sick comfort in it. Yeah, and then even to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where my closest friends were like, there's something

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>wrong with you. We're concerned, you're sick, like and then

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<v Speaker 2>like like, we're really concerned because you keep saying this

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>and doing that. And I was getting so fucking mad

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 2>because I know that, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling like, you don't think I know?

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's that easy?

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<v Speaker 2>Like and actively finding the words to try and like

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 2>justify it, but not, and then trying to explain to

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<v Speaker 2>my friends who have none a long time, like you

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think I know you don't think I'm working on

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<v Speaker 2>it and like I don't need this shit from you now.

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a crazy realization of self to be like

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm inflicting pain on myself because it's comforting to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's like it's like nostalgia, right, Like we like

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 4>get excited when we hear a nineties R and B

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 4>record or something because it puts us into that place,

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 4>and that's nostalgia with like an upbeat flavor.

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh my.

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 4>God, they don't make music like this, Oh this is

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 4>my jam. But it's the same thing with some of

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.760
<v Speaker 4>our toxic family traits. It's like you have a longing

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 4>for it sometimes, you know it really there is this

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 4>nostalgia of wanting to recreate what you knew.

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<v Speaker 5>As a child.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like in moments like that, you know, part

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<v Speaker 4>of like the reparenting dynamic that's so important, Like reparenting

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 4>yourself is treating yourself how you wish you were treated

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 4>as a child. It's talking to yourself with kindness. And

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<v Speaker 4>so often when we're feeling frustrated with ourselves from like

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 4>where we're at with growth, it's like, come on, get

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 4>it together, you know, Like come on, And it's like

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 4>you have to do the opposite to you. Anytime you

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.320
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're recreating chaos or you're finding yourself in crisis,

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 4>it's literally about.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, oh, baby, you're hurting, take a breath.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Imagining yourself as a child, Like speak to yourself the

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<v Speaker 4>way you would any three year old on the street,

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 4>not even your own child. If I see any three

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 4>year old on the street, I'm like, oh, look at

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 4>a baby, you know, and I'm like, Hi, oh gosh,

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 4>you're so smart.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi beautiful.

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Like it's giving yourself that same kind of nourishment and

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 4>parental guidance to that little you that's still inside. And

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's how we heal. It's through the kindness.

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 4>It's through the grace, it's through the patience with ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>as a child, and it's not through the get it together.

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<v Speaker 5>You should know this. Come on all right, Like go

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<v Speaker 5>to therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to dad.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the tenderness. It's the slowness, and if it

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<v Speaker 4>takes your whole.

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<v Speaker 5>Life, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all we're here for anyway, right. We're just here

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<v Speaker 4>to experience and to learn and to grow and transcend.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you need to take your time, take it,

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<v Speaker 4>but do it with tenderness.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was listening to your podcast, you had mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you said something that was or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you had asked a therapist or someone you were

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<v Speaker 1>speaking with. You'd said, why is like finding wholeness the

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<v Speaker 1>fight of our life in the childhood?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is finding wholeness the fight of our life in

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<v Speaker 1>our adulthood? And I told me. I was like, oh

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.359
<v Speaker 1>my god, is that what our whole podcast was about?

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<v Speaker 1>Is like finding our wholeness? And I was like, kinda,

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<v Speaker 1>And it does feel like oftentimes it does feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the fight of your life. And I think she said

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<v Speaker 1>a child has to blame or else.

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<v Speaker 5>She'll go and say, oh my god, that was like

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<v Speaker 5>what Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, day when you said that child.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to blame or else, she'll go and say And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like wow. And now having a child and

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<v Speaker 1>her always like when something goes wrong, you like, she

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:02.879
<v Speaker 1>did it, you did it did And I'm like, yeah,

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Carl're not in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not in trouble, Like, why are we blaming someone

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 3>right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was so interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so like and it's also so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know not, I know it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is yeah, you know I so I you know,

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 4>off and on. I've gone to therapy over the years.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 4>I do think like cognitive therapy is phenomenal, and it

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 4>gives you language and it.

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<v Speaker 5>Gives you structure to your experience.

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<v Speaker 4>But we have to add in like somatic experiencing to

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<v Speaker 4>really be in the healing or to like dissolve the trauma.

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.399
<v Speaker 4>We have to love the trauma. We can't just give

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 4>it language and understand, Oh I act this way because

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 4>this happened to me. It's like, Okay, now that I

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 4>can understand that, how can I bring that intellectualization down

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 4>into my heart so I can actually live as the

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 4>person I want to be that I really am. And

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<v Speaker 4>so sometimes like I have this one phenomenal psychologist, sometimes

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.399
<v Speaker 4>I just cut. Like so I do a lot of

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.240
<v Speaker 4>healing work on myself, but I also do a lot

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 4>of healing education for myself. Like over the last ten years,

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 4>I've probably gotten like an Ivy League education in different

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 4>healing modeality. So sometimes I'm like the weirdo that books

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 4>time with a leading psychologists to ask them questions that

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 4>aren't necessarily about me.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'll be like, how does.

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<v Speaker 4>This work in the brain or why does this happen?

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Or why do kids do this? You know, I'm really

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 4>really freaking curious. So I you know, when I study

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 4>trauma and I study the barriers that we put up

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<v Speaker 4>against our own healing, the common denominator for all of

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 4>us is this under underlying feeling of being unworthy or

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 4>being worthless. That is where I feel that one hundred

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 4>percent of all of our trauma really sinks into and

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 4>also experiences lend itself to that. Certain experiences happen that

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 4>we interpret as being judgments against us or wrongness about us.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was asking her, I said, you know, why

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 5>is it that.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything always comes down to us not really thinking we're

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<v Speaker 4>worthy or us really loving ourselves? And she said, you know,

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 4>when you're a kid, she said this phrase to me,

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<v Speaker 4>thats that you share that Jess.

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 5>Like it rocked my soul.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you know, well a child has to blame

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 4>or else that will go insane. And she said, you know, biologically, neurologically,

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 4>the way your mind works as a young person is

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<v Speaker 4>that like you don't have context for anything, you don't

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 4>have language for hardly anything, and you don't have life experience,

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 4>and so everything about our experience is crafted by how

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 4>we understand our caregivers. So if our caregivers, who we

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 4>now come to understand as adults, are these problematic flawed

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 4>adults like we are, and like we know.

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<v Speaker 1>I look like I can't wait to call my mom. Problemiz, Mom,

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 1>you were a problematic caregiver. You did your best.

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 3>I love you did. It was probably dev said that

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to say that Dad, it's problematic step father.

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.439
<v Speaker 1>When I go talk to my stepfather, So listen my relationship.

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 3>You're a problematic adult and I am too.

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 4>And also, you were a wounded child, right, you know,

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 4>like you were a wounded child and you wounded me,

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 4>and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it is.

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 4>But you know, the process of like a child blaming

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 4>or it will go insane, is really found in that

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 4>the way.

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<v Speaker 5>A child processes it has.

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<v Speaker 4>To give meaning because it's craving to understand its experience,

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 4>it's craving to build its structures. And so for a

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 4>young person, it's not even conceivable to you that the

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 4>problem is your parent, or the problem is your family system,

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 4>or the problem is your home.

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<v Speaker 5>If that were to occur to you, it would put you.

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<v Speaker 4>Into a fight or flight that is not survivable, like

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 4>if your parent is God, if your home is really

0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.839
<v Speaker 4>your earth, and something is wrong with that, and you're

0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:03.280
<v Speaker 4>all so very clear that you cannot care for yourself.

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.839
<v Speaker 4>If you were to find fault in that system, it

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 4>would send you spiraling.

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 5>Who would care for you as a kid.

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 4>You would probably give yourself a heart attack from being

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 4>in fight or flight constantly. So you have to think

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 4>it's you. You have to think that it's something wrong

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 4>with you, and then you commit yourself to this path

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 4>of being better, of earning love, of you know, trying

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 4>to get the attention, or trying to get into a

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 4>safe space with your parents or with your family so

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 4>that you can feel the love, so that you can

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 4>feel safe, which then leads you usually on this lifetime

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 4>journey of on the far end of the spectrum either

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 4>becoming a sociopath and a full on narcissist or becoming

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 4>a really really committed people pleasing.

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>People say that sounds like the recipe.

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 4>For people please who's in fear of losing love, who's

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 4>in fear of losing safety, who's in fear of losing self?

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 4>And you know, either side of that is not necessarily

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 4>anyone's fault, but they are interesting things to look at

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 4>as we heal ourselves. You know, what is me and

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 4>what is like this false programming that I can like

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 4>all of.

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Like defense mechanisms almost that we've become accustomed to an

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 2>innate too. That like someone if certain reactions in adulthood

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<v Speaker 2>start to make you react different ways. There was something

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<v Speaker 2>else you said. I think everyone has childhood trauma. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no one's no one's fucking missing it, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think and it's hard. You think about your entire

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 2>childhood and it's hard to go like pinpoint certain moments.

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<v Speaker 2>It almost takes you like kind of like really getting

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<v Speaker 2>into that space and really committing to deep diving into

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>your memory about what you remember, conversations, all those experiences.

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I think also with children and with childhood, as

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 2>we I know, I have been able to block things out.

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:01.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like our response to traumas like I can forget

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 2>some shit quickly, like don't mention it again. I'm gonna

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 2>forget now, okay, but like actual tangible tools and ways

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<v Speaker 2>to go and start the process. So a friend of

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 2>mine told me recently, like getting into feudal position and

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 2>like thinking of those things. And then I know I

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 2>heard in your podcast about like pulling up a picture

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of you in a certain age that you weren't comfortable with.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny that you said that, because I

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was scrolling through my phone like last night or the

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 2>other night, and you know, the phone behaving like years

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and years of shit you didn't ask for, and I

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 2>was just like scrolling. I was like, wow, things have changed,

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 2>thank god. But you know, like all these pictures were

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of triggering in like places. I was like, in

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.120
<v Speaker 2>certain relationships, how I was feeling in the really times.

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<v Speaker 1>Both memories is the worst thing Facebook ever did to humanity.

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and now the phone is good.

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Now have you noticed that iPhones are now just reminding

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 2>me where you.

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Have to create a whole album that you don't ask for.

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm really like seeing my baby daddy on the beach.

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, we asked for this. Shit. Fuck I

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 3>ask for this goddamn memory. I was there. I didn't

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 3>need this. I take the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be pulling shit ibout and asked for Siri, Yo,

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Siri cut the ship.

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck? But it just it just you know,

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 3>even fuck even.

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Childhood this last year, bitch, I was looking at pictures

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 2>from the last the twenty twenty. I was like, I'm

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 2>a whole different person. I've come so far. Wow, you

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. But just like giving yourself permission

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to dig and dive into those places like I don't

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.440
<v Speaker 2>think sometimes we have the tools to where to begin.

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 2>It's so it's so hurtful, it hurts so bad. Yeah,

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I've locked those doors. I've cemented it.

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, so what are some tools, like some beginner

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>step tools for people that are like I don't even

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 1>know where to start with this healing?

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, love it.

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 4>It's actually it's actually so simple, but it takes practice

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 4>to feel.

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 5>Comfortable with it.

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 4>It's really be able to look at the work you

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 4>need to do with joyful curiosity.

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 5>Or at least like deep interest.

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 4>You know. It's like when something comes up for me now,

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<v Speaker 4>like if there's a piece of shadow work that I

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 4>have to do, it's it's really about like, oh what

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 4>is this? Why do I feel that right now? Am

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 4>I jealous? Am I angry?

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 3>What has charged?

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Why does it feel that way? Instead of like I'm

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 4>so angry right now?

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Or god?

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, like people always do this and I'm just

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 4>so instead of leaning into that as the way that

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 4>you're processing what you're feeling, coming into it from more

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.440
<v Speaker 4>of a neutral space allows there to be like a

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 4>rapid fire healing.

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I can't even stress that enough.

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Like the healing comes so fast when you come more

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 4>into a space of neutrality about your journey and come

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 4>more into a space of just like really deep interest

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 4>in curiosity, as if you were walking a dear friend

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 4>through their process. You know, like, well, what happened? What

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 4>comes up for you when you say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what did something happen that lent itself to that? Like

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<v Speaker 4>you're in the role of like journalists and women, we

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 4>are natural inherent psychologists, journalists and detectives. Sure, yet we

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:15.080
<v Speaker 4>don't apply that same ability that is a refined skill.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't apply that to our own process of self.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like if we gave it that same level

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<v Speaker 4>of diligence, that same level of like creative introspection and

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<v Speaker 4>that same curiosity, like we can free ourselves so much

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<v Speaker 4>faster with ease, with ease and joy, Like healing does

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<v Speaker 4>not have to come through all of the knights on

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<v Speaker 4>your knees and tears or the yelling into your pillow,

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<v Speaker 4>or the taking the drives, like healing can come through

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<v Speaker 4>the tiny moments, the twinkle of an eye, the joy,

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<v Speaker 4>the self inquiry question. You know, it can come through

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<v Speaker 4>the one time that you decide to say no, and

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<v Speaker 4>then that starts to build up your ability to say.

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<v Speaker 5>It more and more when you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>And really investigate.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's the secret is the curiosity, Like I treat

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<v Speaker 4>myself with the deep curiosity for my needs, for my joys,

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<v Speaker 4>Like hmm, what am I craving today? Like what could

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<v Speaker 4>I use to smile today? What would feel good for me? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let me do that to then? Oh wow, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>really defeated today. Okay, what's coming up? What do I feel?

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<v Speaker 4>Where in my body do I feel it? It's in my heart? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that feels like grief? What am I experiencing right now?

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<v Speaker 5>What's here?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>And just being willing to be with yourself. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what we avoid, you know, I think we get through

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<v Speaker 4>life without realizing all the tools of avoidance we have

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<v Speaker 4>for ourselves. We avoid ourselves with the packed schedule, We

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<v Speaker 4>avoid ourselves with friendships, with fun, with perceived happiness, like

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<v Speaker 4>we can find we can turn anything into a tool

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<v Speaker 4>of avoidance.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything, and so it's so.

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<v Speaker 4>Important to really create those moments where we're just with us,

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<v Speaker 4>Like go stare at yourself in the eyes in the

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<v Speaker 4>mirror with your face two inches away from the mirror.

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<v Speaker 4>Light a candle and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>For a minutes and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for real, Like it's really comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get eye contact? Period? Is some shit? It

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<v Speaker 3>is really some shit, especially with yourself. It's crazy. You

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<v Speaker 3>said that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an acting like exercise with a stranger in

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<v Speaker 2>an acting class randomly, and the exercise was for us

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<v Speaker 2>to stare at each other in each other's eyes for

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes. And I was I get awkward. I can

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<v Speaker 2>like someone can yell at me or send me something,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me something sensitive, and I'll like smirk, So I

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<v Speaker 2>can avoid very easily. But this girl started to cry

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like I embraced her, and I was like, god, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's first of all, is this acting class is

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<v Speaker 2>fucking therapy both But second of all, like damn, that

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<v Speaker 2>is like she saw me seeing her and it made

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<v Speaker 2>her very vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I will catch myself in the bathroom I'll try and

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<v Speaker 2>tell myself things, but I'm like, oh wow, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>looked at you in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's like this deep and you know

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<v Speaker 4>what you just said in the acting class, that's so

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful because like in like the mindfulness world, in like

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<v Speaker 4>retreating systems and workshops, what you did is actually a

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<v Speaker 4>really powerful tool for meeting yourself. And it's called soul gazing.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's like I've been I've been at retreats

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<v Speaker 4>before where I got in a line outside with two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred people and we each spent a minute staring into

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<v Speaker 4>each other's eyes, like spent the whole afternoon what all

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<v Speaker 4>walks of life. So you're seeing every kind of face

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<v Speaker 4>and every kind of eye. And I remember the very

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<v Speaker 4>first time I did it, I was like I could

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<v Speaker 4>see like every person I would look in their eye

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<v Speaker 4>for that time span, I would literally just say to them,

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<v Speaker 4>you are whole, you are worthy, like with my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would extend that same feeling to myself. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I've cried, or the people in front of

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<v Speaker 4>me would cry, because we don't realize how often we're

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<v Speaker 4>not even getting enough touch alone enough eye contact, especially

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<v Speaker 4>now in quarantine, like you know, for those that have

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<v Speaker 4>been inside or having like really limited access to people,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like something like holding your friend's hand. Like me

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<v Speaker 4>and my best girlfriend, she came to hang out with

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<v Speaker 4>me and my son for a few days, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever she comes over, we spend a few days together,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, which is like rare, Like we're both busy,

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<v Speaker 4>so we rarely get to do it. But when we do,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, let's have a sleepover for three days. Like

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<v Speaker 4>she'll come over, spend time with the baby, We'll wake up,

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<v Speaker 4>have coffee together. Sometimes her and I just sit on

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<v Speaker 4>the couch and we'll hold hands watching something, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean, And it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's my friend, like really just my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, it's like it's giving people you care about,

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<v Speaker 4>those moments of intimacy, that deepening, you know, looking at

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<v Speaker 4>someone in their eyes, like it that's such a gift

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<v Speaker 4>for you and them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think that the longer we've been

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<v Speaker 2>friends with people, and the longer people around us, we

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<v Speaker 2>forget to do that. Yeah, because I remember like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously, I mean, Erica at the closest people that

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<v Speaker 2>ever existed in fucking human friendship. But like in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>like the first meeting Erica have only really been best

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<v Speaker 2>friends for three years. But in the first like year

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<v Speaker 2>or two of our relationship, even now, because she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>my friend that had been super comfortable with for years

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<v Speaker 2>and years and years, she would just touch me and

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<v Speaker 2>like rub my shoulder and be like, you don't seem okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I would just like jar me because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>used to that, you know. And now you feel so

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<v Speaker 2>close to people, but sometimes you'd get so close to

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<v Speaker 2>people that you are not close, you know, you forget

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<v Speaker 2>to offer them the courtesy of just like the things

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<v Speaker 2>I touched, you know, of cuddling, of love, and just

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<v Speaker 2>like those little things of her like reminding me. Even

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<v Speaker 2>like she apologize this to me, I'm like, no, well, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Where my feelings hurt? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like they weren't, but maybe they were, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But because we forget that gentleness, we forget that like

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<v Speaker 2>that that kindness to be to the people we've known

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<v Speaker 2>the longest, our moms, our parents, you know, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, as a friend, I am a kissy, huggy,

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<v Speaker 4>like wis your birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like birthday's in the close to mine. I

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<v Speaker 2>just read this June and nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>My birthday is June eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, mine June twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>She's only I'm a Gemini or I'm a double Gemini

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<v Speaker 4>with the Leo Rising.

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<v Speaker 2>A Leo Rising too is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love being a Leo Rising. Oh okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask some o question.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we've been talking a lot, but we had

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<v Speaker 2>this question, and I don't know if you have any

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<v Speaker 2>more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was gonna actually ask that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have a question our DMS for you

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean to read it or yeah, go ahead, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a question. Actually, this is from Torri, who I love.

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<v Speaker 3>She love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's always a.

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<v Speaker 2>Young cool ass listening, artistic shout out to tor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's dope, she said. I'd love to hear her

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<v Speaker 1>approach to breath work and how she ritualizes it throughout

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<v Speaker 1>her day.

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<v Speaker 2>But before you start, I want to say when I

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<v Speaker 2>picked my two cents that I recently went to Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>I told everyone, tell everyone again. I was with like

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<v Speaker 2>my hippie friends and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>There part of Mexico we went.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in zach It was like right outside of

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<v Speaker 2>Cabo called Zacatthas. Oh okay, No, not Zachary's those total No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I And we did acid.

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<v Speaker 2>So all those things you were saying, like one drop

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<v Speaker 2>of this, one drop of kinda is like one drop of.

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<v Speaker 3>Acid heels everything, but a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the first week of being there, they're just like

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<v Speaker 2>cool hippie burning man people and we're just doing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a lot of moaning, a lot of looking at due,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of beautiful sight seeing, and just like a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of touching, like a lot of bodywork.

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<v Speaker 3>And getting on my body. That was and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know it was my jam girl. I didn't know was

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<v Speaker 3>just following my white people.

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<v Speaker 1>Were eating fruits.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eating fruits and moaning, seeing sunsets, waking up early.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Stretching naked, dancing naked around the house like we're having

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<v Speaker 3>this my jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Energetic intimacy, just being comfortable, just be vulnerable, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we don't give ourselves the permission to do

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot. And so days later and we did

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<v Speaker 2>this acid trip and we put attention into the acid.

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<v Speaker 2>I had this like life changing experience and so what

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<v Speaker 2>I've taken from that is that experience. But very much,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck where I'm at, who I'm with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like fucking uber, like yup, join me?

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<v Speaker 3>When to join? Ye? I have a hard to die homework. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have a lot of weird stares.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I feel like there's fucking I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I have a podcast, so there's there's power and frequencies

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<v Speaker 2>and voice like we put our we put our words

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<v Speaker 2>out and those frequencies go forever until they bounce off

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<v Speaker 2>of nothing, you know, to the universe. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>based on Tory's question, like how what.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the question?

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<v Speaker 1>The question was she loved to hear your approach to

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<v Speaker 1>breath work and how you ritualize it throughout your day.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, for me, everything is literally sacred, Like

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<v Speaker 4>every single thing about my day is a ritual or

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<v Speaker 4>an offering to God in some way. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I feel like I'm building a life for myself,

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<v Speaker 4>that my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the altar for God, you know. And it's like

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<v Speaker 5>with breath.

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<v Speaker 4>Work, that is a piece of it's just a natural

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<v Speaker 4>piece of everything. Like I'm always stopping much like you

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<v Speaker 4>just describe to take a moment to breathe, to take

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<v Speaker 4>a moment to center, Like yesterday I was on not

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<v Speaker 4>like my work day is typically and this is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>sound crazy considering I work in well being, but my

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<v Speaker 4>day is five am to ten am every day, every

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<v Speaker 4>single day without fail. And moms I know can definitely relate.

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<v Speaker 3>To that, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a lot, but I managed to get a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of great solid sleep, and I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>How am I functioning?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really because if I have ten minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>each hour, I'll use it for myself and I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>outside and i'll ground and I'll just focus on my

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<v Speaker 1>breathing and for me, like the hand placements that feel

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<v Speaker 1>really good, it's like one over my heart, check ra

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<v Speaker 1>one over my sacral and just really take time to

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<v Speaker 1>like feel my heartbeat, connect to my womb, my creativity center,

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<v Speaker 1>and just.

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<v Speaker 5>Take that big deep breath.

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<v Speaker 4>In through your nose. And I usually do a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the slower breathing or like the lion's breath, where

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<v Speaker 4>you're taking in a big breath through in heal through

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<v Speaker 4>your nose, really big, filling your lungs like their gorgeous balloons,

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<v Speaker 4>just expanding holding the breath for a moment and then

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<v Speaker 4>like letting it come out and just doing that repeatedly

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<v Speaker 4>and really noticing myself and my body and even like

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<v Speaker 4>wiggling and how do I feel and what feels good,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and like letting your eyes kind of hang

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<v Speaker 4>a little lower and go with the natural movements of

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<v Speaker 4>your body. And then sometimes I like to like do

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<v Speaker 4>one like deep journey a week. So like last night

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<v Speaker 4>I did a two hour breath work journey, and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was more intense. There was definitely the.

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<v Speaker 4>For two hours, and then like everything started tingling and

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<v Speaker 4>I might have like, you know, levitated for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 4>I went somewhere really really fucking enjoy my own company,

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<v Speaker 4>like I am such a great friend to me, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I really like having moments to just spend with myself

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<v Speaker 4>and there not be any comparison, there not being any

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<v Speaker 4>Like I can, honest to God, find joy and absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>anything and feel connected to it. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the way that I use my practice throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 4>But also like if I enter a room in my house,

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<v Speaker 4>I let it incense before I walk into my office,

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<v Speaker 4>I do a prayer in the room, I light an incense,

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<v Speaker 4>I light certain candles, I call in, you know, certain

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<v Speaker 4>energies to just aid me. And that's a part of

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<v Speaker 4>every single day and of every process. If I run

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<v Speaker 4>myself a bath, I do reiki over the water and

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<v Speaker 4>like say a prayer that the water rejuvenates me, and

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<v Speaker 4>then I get in and you know, it's like there,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's always opportunity to turn something into

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<v Speaker 4>like a moment, not just for growth. Like we can't

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<v Speaker 4>get too focused on how we're growing, what we're growing,

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<v Speaker 4>how we're healing. Sometimes it's like, let me relax into

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<v Speaker 4>the pure joy of what is in this moment and

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the version of myself who I am in this moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I'm looking to potentially refine or chisel in

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<v Speaker 4>this way and in this way, but I can also

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<v Speaker 4>love the shit out of her right now as is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can also love how she's showing up to herself

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<v Speaker 4>even when she hasn't figured out this tool yet.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I can.

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<v Speaker 4>Still celebrate the process. So that's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 4>way that I move. But definitely I introduce breath to everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I introduce reiki to everything. I find ways to do

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<v Speaker 4>both in every part of my day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. That's amazing. I've seen the breath work that

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<v Speaker 1>you've done on social, on following your on social, and

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<v Speaker 1>Miila's really inspired me to. I mean, I've always incorporated breath,

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<v Speaker 1>but like honestly, like I feel like there has been

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<v Speaker 1>even sort of like, don't breathe too loud.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's weird, You're actually weird. You know, rhythm,

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<v Speaker 2>like why are you just dancing for no reason? Chill

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<v Speaker 2>out like you're being weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, don't breathe that loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't make us all known right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like even like we want a yoga class and you

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<v Speaker 1>hear that one person that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, ah, you're like shut up, Actually no, it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're having the best classes ever know the poss but

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<v Speaker 1>I get but like, no, it's really It's really has

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<v Speaker 1>helped me. So thank you, Mila, And I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that we have reconnected. I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you live in the valley, So now I'm not You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get rid of me. I'm coming over to

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<v Speaker 1>your house. I just want you to know me and

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<v Speaker 1>Erica bring the things we bring.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and Erica recruit all of our guests to be

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<v Speaker 2>our best friends in three way and three way group text.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm your your were birthdays with three days apart.

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<v Speaker 3>We're best friends now we both like.

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<v Speaker 2>Simon, let's let's moan less, let's dance like ground naked

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard, let the kids run free. I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>that life. Absolutely put attention into our water together name.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm only available for people like this in my.

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<v Speaker 4>Life, like the girls again, gift of like being this

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<v Speaker 4>version of me and the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like I there's no time to be wasted none.

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<v Speaker 1>I want only people near me that we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be naked together sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you hold me? Can we hold each other?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's hold and you know what you said too, And

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<v Speaker 4>I know we're ending. Sorry not to drag it on,

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<v Speaker 4>but like when we were talking about like like how

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<v Speaker 4>breath work shows up, or like making sounds like last night,

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<v Speaker 4>after I did that that two hour journey, I went

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<v Speaker 4>and I took a shower and I just started making

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<v Speaker 4>crazy sounds in the shower. Perceived crazy, it's not crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but I was just like, what would this sound sound like?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I just started making any sound that came

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<v Speaker 4>to me. And it's like doing that, it creates like

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<v Speaker 4>such a freedom and a space disst and you like

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<v Speaker 4>create with your breath, like make sounds what's inside of

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<v Speaker 4>you that wants to come out, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids do it forgot child.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids do that ship all day They do weird ship

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<v Speaker 1>all day long. My daughter is a fucking weirdo.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her showing me shit Like look, mom, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, honey, you know y. I was like, lately,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's been taking showers alone, which has been wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>like like we've found We've gotten to this new ritual

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<v Speaker 1>of like every morning you take a shower, okay, Like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we'll skip a day and I'm like, you know what, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not skiing in mornings. And so she has been

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoying it by herself. And I hear her in

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<v Speaker 1>there making all types of sounds and ship singing like water.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like this, she's ancient like healing because Lina does

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. She'll get in there even as a

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<v Speaker 3>young kid, like she was in there forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get her out. I'm like every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okaybe it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Been thirty there's deep healing in water, that's why. And

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<v Speaker 2>the kids be knowing, girl, the kids be knowing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the primitive things and you that want to come out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay to give your permission to let them out.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Debbie, can you tell her our people where they

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<v Speaker 1>can find you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, hit me on the gram. All my channels and

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<v Speaker 4>my website is just Debbie Brown. So d E v

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<v Speaker 4>I Debbie Debbie Brown on ig you hit my.

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<v Speaker 3>Link in bio.

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<v Speaker 4>It leads you to all the places and all the

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<v Speaker 4>things awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys know where to find us Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>Good Mom's Underscore, Bad Choices. Make sure you follow us

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon. That's patreon dot com backslash Good Moms, Bad Choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie is going to be blessing us with a full

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<v Speaker 1>moon meditation. It's a little five minute, short little meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>but get us in the get us in the spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always me and Jamila are always about

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<v Speaker 1>manifesting period. But on the full moon, and even after

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<v Speaker 1>we had this conversation last month with Loose Warrior, your

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<v Speaker 1>all needs to be manifesting on your period.

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<v Speaker 2>My period is like all on the end, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just had I was feeling bitchy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I did tap in. I'm like, have you heard about

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<v Speaker 3>the red tent?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Loose Warrior she talked to us about rev

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<v Speaker 1>her by the way, Oh, she's amazing to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the tent. And basically, how like in ancient history, women

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<v Speaker 1>were put in the They had this red tent and

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<v Speaker 1>these tribes and all the women because their cycles would

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<v Speaker 1>be would be the same, because you know, once as

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<v Speaker 1>women can get together, our cycles start to be similar

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<v Speaker 1>in the moon, and they would all go into this

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<v Speaker 1>red tent and they would anything that the tribe needed

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<v Speaker 1>to get done down, they would write it down, give

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<v Speaker 1>it to the women. They'd go in the red tent

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<v Speaker 1>and pray, pray over it and manifest. They believe that

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<v Speaker 1>for the community. When you're on your period, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a direct you have a direct channel to God.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've been we've tapping in on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess what I'm gonna be on my period

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<v Speaker 1>on the full move So I'm red tenting and full

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<v Speaker 1>moon manifest.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, well, yeah, I hope my period doesn't the

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<v Speaker 2>end by Saturday, me too.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you got three day residual effects.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and I'm sure me and you have manifested

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shit in our period together and absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and also in addition to that, please go check

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's the bomb and she's about to.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've been drinking out of her glasses all day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're drinking wine. There are her baby daddy tear glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Our baby daddies are crying right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now and we're drinking their tears.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay hydrated ladies, choking on them, just like a baby daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>Just like a baby daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>You would Anyway, you guys don't where to find us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, have an amazing week and we'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, for people who are exploring this. If you're

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<v Speaker 8>trying to fulfill something that's missing in your primary relationship,

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<v Speaker 8>like that's that's not the way to go into this.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like you're so fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 8>By your partner and you want like little extra icinger

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<v Speaker 8>sparkles on the cake. You know, it's like this is

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<v Speaker 8>this is this is not something to relationships. You're not

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<v Speaker 8>don't try to fix your relationship, like go in with

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<v Speaker 8>an empowered relationship or as I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Done it as a single woman.

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<v Speaker 1>That is fun.

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<v Speaker 8>It's going to dude, being a single girl of a

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<v Speaker 8>sex party is so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>This is

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