WEBVTT - Respect and Protect the Black Woman 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.639 My league Buns has all the knowledge you want. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.400 My league has all the knowledge you need. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.399 League but Chad, they have out the books that the 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:13.320 whole wild world one up read My League Buds. Welcome, Welcome, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.800 Welcome to Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together with books, 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.200 culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik, your host 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:28.080 of Malik's Bookshelf. Welcome everybody. This is the one hundred 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:33.320 and third episode and I'm just so excited every week 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:40.080 to bring you the next episode or segment now this week. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.160 As I told you last week, if you hadn't listened 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.720 to last week called I Am Enough, I hasten you 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.319 to go back and listen to last week episode I 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.560 Am Enough, because I was able to interview Grace Buyers 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:01.240 and I was able to do a moderation with Well, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.240 let me rewind this say. Because I said I did 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.840 an interview with Grace Buyers, I didn't tell you. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.959 She's the author of this epic New. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.520 York bestseller children's book called I Am Enough, and I 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:21.520 believe I can't. She's an actress and a activist, and 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:28.039 her book has made an overwhelming impact throughout this country 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:33.480 because it deals with self esteem, love of self I 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.360 was able to interview her at a book signing that 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.720 we hosted in partnership with b sep Out in Cleveland 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.160 High School in Los Angeles County. It was remote, it 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.640 was on the spot, and so it had a little 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.400 audio difficulty, but you can pretty much hear it and 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.440 get the gust of the beautiful conversation I was able 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.520 to have with Grace buyers. But I also interviewed or 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.680 moderating an event we held at MAIK with Ladarian Williams. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.720 He's a new author. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.600 In fact, he made the New York Times bestseller list 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.680 last week, well this week, and he was just so 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.880 elated and we was graciously happy to be able to 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:14.359 help him. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.320 We hosted him, we did a pre order campaign. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.840 The book is called Blood at the Root, and Ladarian 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.840 Williams had busted down some doors, opened some new windows 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.440 with the book Blood at the Root, which depicts a 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.799 young black boy coming of age who doesn't know who 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.480 to trust, how to trust and find his true self 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.799 and learn about his legacy, his roots. I just strongly 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.320 liked the fact that the book was centered around a 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.560 strong coming of age black mail, which it's just not 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.280 a lot of books out written in this manner. Now, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.880 this is a fantasy, a magical book. The main characters 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.359 Malik got powers and he don't know where he came 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.120 from and how to control them. But it's like the 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.440 black version of Harry Potter. Instead of going to hard world, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.640 he goes to a HPCU, a historically black college and 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:15.200 university to find his true self and how to control 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.760 his abilities, his powers. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.360 It's a fantasy book. It's a wide book. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.120 We got at Malise and its signs to come through 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:29.239 or order online Milikbooks dot com. Ladarnwilliams New York Times Bestseller. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.440 Now that's historic because he's a new author and he 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.800 hit that list with his first book, so that's an achievement. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.880 Moving on, moving on, moving on. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.520 We're going to talk about this upcoming episode because I 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.520 was able to host an epic event at Malik Books 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.960 and Seanie Henderson, she used to be married to Shaquille O'Neal, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.240 wrote a book called Undefeated, Changing the Rules and winning 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:03.160 on my own terms. We popped out Malik Books standing 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:08.200 room only, and we had co stars from the Basketball While. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.280 Because Shanie Henderson is the producer of The Basketball Wives, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.200 we got of these show. It's a big hit they've 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.200 been on for many years, and her being married to 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.240 she Killed O'Neil, being a Basketball wives and having other 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:28.240 cast members also married the professional basketball players formed this 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.839 TV series called Basketball Wives, so you know it takes 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.600 you on their reality and their situation as it pertains 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:40.279 to being married to professional basketball players. But I wasn't 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:46.120 able to interview her specifically because I had a moderator 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.920 named Jasmine Simpkins, who is a journalist as an entertainment 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.719 news reporter and she also a reporter for kt LA. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.760 Jasmine Simpkins was the moderator for our book signing and 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.000 b talk with Shannie Henderson. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:03.440 But I'm gonna bring you some. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.279 Of that because it was explosive and Shaney got a 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.480 lot to say. Remember, she's married to a professional basketball 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.360 brother called Shaquille O'Neill, not to mention the fact that 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.640 she is a mother, is a wife, and an entrepreneur 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.880 on top of being a producer who produced a hit 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.239 TV series called Basketball Wise. So that's gonna be featured 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.800 on this episode as well. I also want to talk 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:32.160 about on this episode what has taken the social media, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.120 the news by the storm. It's all over the place, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.000 but I want to chime in on that because I 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:45.239 think that it's relevant police bookshelf bringing a world together 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.720 with books, culture and community. And one thing for certain, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:55.120 you can't bring the community together without respecting and protecting 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.200 the black woman. So I got to chime in on 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.440 Sean Diddys. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.200 So enjoy this hundred and third. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:10.480 Episode Jasmine Silk and she's gonna be the moderator. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.400 Now, let me tell you a little bit about. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.280 Her before she come out. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.640 All right, before, but. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.280 Before I talk about Jasmine, I need everybody to follow 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:25.240 Elite Books. I need everybody can post tonight. All right, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.200 we gotta cry a wave, right. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.080 Shiney Henderson is in the house. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:31.200 How they gonna know? 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:32.039 Let your poll. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.480 You know what they used to. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.240 Say, if a business don't have a business card, it 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.160 ain't no business. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.760 But if you don't have a social media pain, you 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.480 don't have a business or a movement. So hey, you 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.240 got to follow Elite Books, tag us tag Shiney follow. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:56.280 Her as well. Now I told you I'm not man boat. Also, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.800 I'm gonna post actors. I don't want to leave that out. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.520 You know, I use to make a difference in our community. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.360 I've been doing it for thirty years and I love 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.440 what I do because books is the kiff that keeps 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:10.080 home kiffing. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:11.200 All right. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:21.520 So now, Jasmin Simpsons, she's a journalist entertainment Noodles. She 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.240 is one of the journalists on and interviewers for a 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:32.440 show called La Unscripted. She works with k t LA, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.080 so she's very experienced, she's very knowledgeable. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.280 She is in the house tonight, and y'all gonna have 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.680 to bring her up with a. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:42.720 Round of applause. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:51.720 Chasman Simpkins, thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:59.320 One down, the next to come, the main feature. This 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:04.559 is why all y'all here tonight. We here to lift 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:11.320 up celebrate our new author. And she's more than an author, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:19.360 all right. She's a mother, she's a wife, and she's 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:20.840 a producer. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.240 And she here that night and she created a hit 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.680 called Basketball Wives. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:32.640 And she's resilient. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.079 And that's why her book is called uh Defeated. You 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.440 see what I'm saying that some little changing the. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.760 Rules and win it on my own term. And that's 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.480 the kind of woman we gotta malise Books tonight. A 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:53.520 strong black woman, a woman that came through in firsity, 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.400 got a story in a journey to share with us, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.680 and we're gonna bring her out tonight with a roundable plot. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:09.360 Because she's deserted. Le's goat, that's pretty up, Sonny Dennison, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.240 give on a reception, and. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.080 Because she's desert because she's a star. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.440 Not today, not today, it's gone for. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:34.320 All right. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.400 In all of my life, I don't know if I've 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.160 ever had anybody but an introduction? 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.600 Shall we give around a Pontimli. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:47.000 Whoa if y'all don't buy a book today? 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.839 After all of that, I. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.320 Tell you, guys, I was in here and I did 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.320 an interview with him on my show for KTLA, and 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.319 I left and I bought three books. I'm not lying 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.320 like I was so inspired as if I had not 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.800 a clue that I was coming in to a bookstore. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.920 He will make you buy a book and so much more. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.760 But again, let's give a run of loss to the 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.480 League for allowing us to be here in the beautiful 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.200 Books for one of two locations. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.840 Actually, he started thirty years ago, by the way, during 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:18.199 the riots, Rodney King riots, and was so inspired to get. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.680 People to read, and boy is he doing it. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.120 And he always has people of color, people that look 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.440 like us here in his store in his bookstore to 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.880 do a book signing. And so today we are going 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.600 to be getting into Undefeated, written by first of all 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.640 my friend who is now an author, but the amazing 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:40.600 Shawnie Henderson. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.960 You know, I don't cry, but a little tickle. It 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.280 was almost don't do it. I've cried enough. All right, 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.520 all right, let's get into Undefeated. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.040 And then we will also allow everyone, as many people 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.560 as we can to ask a few questions. But I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.640 wanna get into why you wanted to write a book. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.640 I feel like everyone has a book inside of them, 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.520 no matter who you are, what you've been through, We've 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.439 all got a story to tell. And so I'm curious 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:13.920 did you always feel that way or was there something 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.640 that happened that you were like, it's time to tell 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:17.160 my story. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.800 Cause you know, I've been telling you always need to 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.920 tell your story, Jude's You've been saying that for years. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.480 It's nothing that happened. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.600 I think that now this place that I'm in in life, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.520 I find myself having a conversation about myself a little 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.800 more like. I don't know if it's because I'm more 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.080 active in the community with church and things like that, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.640 where I'm constantly talking to women, I'm constantly sharing my 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.040 experiences that I was like, you know what, let me 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.160 go ahead and do it. I tried writing a book 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.320 like back in I don't know. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.640 Two thousand, eighteen nineteen. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.760 And I just it wasn't my passion. It wasn't I 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.520 wasn't ready to share my story. And even writing this book, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.240 I think I've m I changed it so many. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.440 Times just out of fear. I was scared to share 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:03.920 my story. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:09.720 I was scared to just share because people are just people, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.840 be peopling, you know, and they'll take your experience twisted 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.200 up into what they wanted to be as they are. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.240 But it's just like getting over that fear of what 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.120 if or what if they think or how. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.679 They'll you know, see my story in themselves. And I 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.920 don't know. I was scared. But I'm about to be fifty. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:35.040 So I'm like, I'm all black. I'm black because you 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.840 don't look even forty. Okay. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:44.200 So the title is called undefeated, Yes, what is being 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:45.080 undefeated to you? 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:45.320 Like? 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.800 What does that mean? And what do you hope people 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.560 get from that word? Tweeting the book Undefeated? For me, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.040 it's literally. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.280 Not taking any experience as a loss. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.559 Right, So I always think I. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.080 Haven't always thought, but I'll say now I I really 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:07.280 do think of an experience. Even if I don't succeed 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.200 at what I'm after, I think me not succeeding I 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.000 still take as a win, cause now I know how 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.000 not to do it right and I can go a 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:15.760 different route. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:16.559 So it's like. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.320 Something that I've learned out of it. So I'm not 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.720 defeated in that either. Even if it's not the goal 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.679 that I was reaching, I now have a new perspective 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.600 on it, so I'll take that as a win. So 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.560 I just I want people to read it and realize, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.720 no matter what, you can take an opportunity, and you 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.960 can take a challenge and make it an opportunity. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.560 It's just a choice. So you know, whether it's me 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:40.760 being broke, whether. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.400 It's me you know, back in my parents' house, whether 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.600 it's just mess ups in life, like, you can take 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.720 that challenge or that moment in life and make it. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.720 Into an opportunity. We're gonna get to that in a minute. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.880 Uhh, when you were at your parents' house, I remember 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.520 that time talking about that. But I do wanna ask 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:03.720 you what has this journey from being a basketball wife 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:10.040 to being divorced, to being broke, to starting the amazing venture. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.480 That is basketball wives, to. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.720 Being a first lady now and now an author. What 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.880 has that journey taught you about yourself? 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.880 I think it's taught me that I actually have some 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.560 true resilience, like and and I'm capable of. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:36.120 Putting my feelings aside and just learning. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.160 I want to I want, I cognitantly want to be 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.920 better right and I want to try to be better 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.360 at making better decisions, treating people better, my engagement with 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.800 people Like I. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.000 I will look sometimes at. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.400 My husband and I always say this all the time, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.080 like he has this level of grace that is commendable 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:59.320 but so hard to achieve because I am I'm like, why. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.840 We gotta get at her in the third opportunity, you. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.800 Know, like you gave them two already and I'm over it, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:06.120 you know. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:10.280 But that's a learning process for me. And I really do. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.600 Sit back and sometimes just be like, Wow, that's amazing 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.400 because you aren't supposed to show grace. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.040 You aren't supposed to you know, people make mistakes. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:23.520 So I think just this process of continuing to learn 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.760 in every moment and deciding to be grateful for those 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.200 moments will change your perspective on like everything every day, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.000 Like you let things kind of roll off your back 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.320 because you don't care as much about petty stuff because 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.080 you're like M, you know, like I'm grateful for X, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.640 Y and Z. I'm not gonna allow you or this 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.880 to disturb my piece. Yeah. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.240 So the book is fourteen chapters, a little over two 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.640 hundred pages. But you get into a lot. You get 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.240 into a lot of this book. How many people have 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.360 read the book already here? I know you have friend you're. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:00.120 So. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.520 I don't want to give too much away, but you 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.480 get into a lot in the book. But were there 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.080 what was that process or feeling like in terms of 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.920 being this vulnerable in this book and telling your story 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.160 in this way, because I know it was. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:14.000 There's a lot. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.360 You went through a lot and during this time, even 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.840 and you go all the way back, you know, I do, yeah, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.040 I do, yeah, I I think it was therapeutic to 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:22.480 go through. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.520 It was the journey. It's so much that I looked out. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:25.200 I mean, even the. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.080 Conversation we were just having, I was. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.920 I'm gonna tell that story or verbally one day. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.160 But even when I was talking to Alicia when I 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.200 got here and she was reminding me of things. She 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.200 was like, oh, you didn't tell the story about this, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.000 and I was like, oh my god, I forgot about that. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:45.080 But they're like big pivotal moments. But again, it was 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.680 the fear of exposing other people that I was like, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.920 mm okay, I don't need to share all that. I 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.040 really tried to stick to sharing moments that stuck out 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.400 to me that were that kind of changed the trajectory 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.240 of my life, like this happened, and it caused this, 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.120 and this happened and it caused that, as opposed to 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.240 many of the other stories that I probably could have shared. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.760 That, but I'll share an interviews one day, or. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:14.200 You're sharing a movie speaking that movie Undefeated movie, right, anybody? 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.879 Anybody would watched that, right? Yeah? The stories where the 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.280 windings go speak that into existence. You turn this into 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.240 a book and or the next book, right yeah? Yeah, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:27.040 I mean. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.359 Yes, I don't know what that's gonna be. But I 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.399 kind of like this book thing. I feel like I 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.119 can say I can write a lot of things that 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:35.800 I won't say. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.600 I don't like talking about myself, Like in. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:44.080 Conversation, I really don't. But I can write about myself 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.119 a lot easier, like here, here's what I said, instead 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.400 of sitting here talking about it, and I just show. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.720 Up, you know, like I show up as my genuine self. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.280 And I hope that me showing up as that speaks 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.879 for itself instead of me having to talk about it, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.760 like I want to show you who I am versus. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:02.360 Tell you who I am. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:07.040 Yeah, the book, if anything, I think it's very empowering 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.800 and inspiring to women. I don't and men don't see 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.000 how anybody could read this and not feel like, gosh, 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.840 if she could do this and climb those mountains in 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.600 those valleys and have the journey that she's had, then 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.080 I know I can do this, right. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.639 That was the point, Like that's the only reason I 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.520 shared it, because when I would talk to women and 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.679 share like oh girl, this happened to me and you 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.880 know this is what I did, they were like, wow. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.600 People don't know this about you. So wrote the book. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.119 And I'm hoping that that's the end result, right, that 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.360 you can read it and realize like, oh yeah, it's 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.000 not much that I can't push through, but it's a decision. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.359 It literally is a mindset that I wish somebody had 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.639 shared with me. You know, I wish somebody. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.720 Had told me, girl, you can like change your mindset 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.080 and not have to be depressed and not have to. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.720 I mean, and don't get me wrong, depression is a 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:00.359 real thing. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.840 But at some point you have to have a conversation 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.560 with yourself and you have to, you know, dig deep 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.440 and it might take a minute, it might take therapy. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.800 Trust me, you've been there too. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.560 But it's the decision to make the decision to help yourself. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.760 Speaking of decisions, Okay, So the book starts off. You're 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.800 on your mama couch. Mama and your daddy couch and 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.080 La Dara Heights at their house. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:28.480 Kids are laying on you, and you talk about how 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.760 you told your divorce attorney that you didn't want a 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.320 cent to kill. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.120 You had a Tina Turner moment, I don't want nothing 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.880 but my name moment. I would have gave that back, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:46.119 but I have little kids. He's gone now. But where 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.280 did that come from? 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.400 Because I'm sure if I said it or I didn't, 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.960 I was thinking, girl, how are we doing that? I know, right, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.960 I say that to myself right now, like, but it's admirable, right, yeah, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:05.800 I guess where did that spirit of I am prioritizing 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:10.040 me and I am taking this journey by myself for 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.199 myself with my kids come from. 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:16.520 I was exhausted, like I just chose my piece. I 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:21.240 was so so exhausted. And I had gone through the depression. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.640 I had gone through the crime, said, I gone through 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.560 the anger. I literally went through all levels of everything, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.879 and I just was so tired that I didn't want 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.520 to fight, you know, to me, I was like, how 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:34.840 am I gonna win anyway? 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:35.160 Right? 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.000 Like I'm fighting against him, It's just not gonna be 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.440 a fair fight, So why bother. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.680 I was just gonna be more stressful. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.720 It was already such a scary thing to get up 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:50.439 and leave that I was so fearful of just everything. 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.720 I didn't know what was happening. You know, I'd never 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.240 done anything like this before. I never had experienced a 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.400 divorce with a huge celebric that could say whatever they 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:02.760 want to say and everybody's. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:02.919 Gonna believe them. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.440 There was already lies going around about me. I didn't 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.680 want to be in a public eye because people were 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.080 thinking I was cheating and stealing money. All these lives 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.520 were being told, So it was like, I was so 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.840 scared and just wanted piece so bad that I was like, here, 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.639 keep it. Can we just get the papers done so 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.879 that I could get this just over with. 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.760 I am not encouraging anybody else to do that. It 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:33.359 was not smart, but it's it's just what I needed 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.720 at that time. I needed the peace of mind and 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.119 it gave me that. I will say that after all 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.520 the stress and all that, and. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.080 I had to go through that because I don't think 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.119 I would be sitting here right now if I didn't. 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.879 It wasn't smart, but I chose peace of mind. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:55.640 And because of it is where basketball wives and everything 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.720 else trickled because I really like I had thought of 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.679 the idea of basketball lives but sat on it. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:02.360 It wasn't a big deal. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:06.120 I'm comfortable right, I'm living okay, I'm I don't need it. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.560 But when I did, you know, it was like, no, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:11.560 this has to work. 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.520 Like I don't have any career, any purpose, any money 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:17.560 until it's divorces over. 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:18.959 I won't even get child support. 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.119