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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October eight. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who's always operating at full capacity.

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Speaker 1: J Peace Shadrick, You got that right. Welcome in Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on this Thursday. Ahead of the Jaguars Texans

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Speaker 1: matchup in week five, J P. Shadrick with Jeff Loghman,

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Speaker 1: We've got a show for you today, the Jaguars Texans

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Speaker 1: preview will dig into the XS and ohs a little

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Speaker 1: bit today. How these teams match up. The defense looking

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Speaker 1: for a sixty minute performance, played pretty well in the

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Speaker 1: first half. They gotta turn over, they had to lead

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Speaker 1: at halftime, and then I got run all over in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Last week. They've got a face to

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson here in week five. The balance of the

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Speaker 1: offense continues to be a talking point. How can they

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Speaker 1: get James Robinson the football a little bit more on

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Speaker 1: the ground and balance it out. Tony Pselli joins us

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Speaker 1: from Chicago at four thirty. He's up there for Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night football, the Bears and the Buccaneers. Brady Versus folds

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Speaker 1: tonight COVID nineteen issues around the league, including certainly in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: The Division rivals having plenty of issues and nothing official

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Speaker 1: has come down from the league yet as to this

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Speaker 1: week's game with the Bills. Will go into Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: football as well with Tony Jeff Lagaman from the home studio.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, what's happening, hey, JP? How you doing, Buddy?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? We're ready for some football. The Jackson a

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Speaker 1: three game slide going now. The Texans are oh and

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Speaker 1: four and they fired their head coach. Bill O'Brien has

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Speaker 1: gone on Monday, Romeo Cornell as the interim head coach.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, well, well we'll hear from Doug

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Speaker 1: Maroon coming up. He's obviously very close to Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: But does this do anything for the Texans? Does this

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Speaker 1: something to get them maybe a little more, a little

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Speaker 1: more pepper than in their step of sorts this week.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great question, And I think teams

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Speaker 1: a sudden play differently after the coach is fired. Because

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Speaker 1: when a coach gets fired, everybody kind of gets put

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Speaker 1: on notice. Hey, look, your jobs are on the line,

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Speaker 1: and if we don't play well after the coach has

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Speaker 1: already gone. So guess who's net be my rear out right?

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Speaker 1: I mean if I'm a player, so you start to

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Speaker 1: think about, well, I better start taking care of my

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Speaker 1: So you could get a little bit of a boost,

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Speaker 1: But then it's not. It's nothing that's typically permanent or

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Speaker 1: long lasting. And uh and I think it's a and

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Speaker 1: sometimes in some cases it can be very disruptive because

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Speaker 1: the players now have a distraction. You now have a

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Speaker 1: lot of change, and especially in the year with COVID

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Speaker 1: and protocols, And I mean it's hard enough playing football

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Speaker 1: right now than it is without trying to make an

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Speaker 1: end season change with with the head coach. And and

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Speaker 1: for me personally, I don't know what the Texans are doing.

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Speaker 1: Why would you fire the head coach after four games

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Speaker 1: unless it was something really agregious, which we haven't heard

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Speaker 1: anything of that nature. And if you're firing a coach

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Speaker 1: because he lost the first four games, he just gave

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Speaker 1: him the title of general manager to go along with

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Speaker 1: being the head coach back in January. He has taken

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Speaker 1: your team to a division title. I think four out

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Speaker 1: of the last five years. You go back to teen,

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Speaker 1: he led the team to the playoffs that year. I just,

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't understand it. This to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the Texans. I'm

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Speaker 1: not there to experience it. But but the whole Jack

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Speaker 1: I think it's very suspicious with this move that the

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Speaker 1: of some some player and coach interactions the last few weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know what what we're smelling. You know, you said

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Speaker 1: are not going well in Houston, of course. So let's

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Speaker 1: hear from head coach Doug Moron, who was very close

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Speaker 1: I probably I would say that you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know that he's an outstanding football coach.

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Speaker 1: He's he's proven that. UM. I know that he's very

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Speaker 1: So obviously we we've known this storyline for a few

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Speaker 1: who doesn't have a great record as a head coach

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Speaker 1: He's been around for a long time, and he's been

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Speaker 1: You're buying that, uh? I mean, look that That's my

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Speaker 1: whole point is that. I mean, first of all, Romeo

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Speaker 1: You just can't really affect any change whatsoever, you know,

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Speaker 1: So that move right there, you know, especially with the

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Speaker 1: that be to the Jaguars advengage this week? Maybe, But

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Speaker 1: we asked Gardner Minshew this week the Jags media did

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Speaker 1: I mean, make no mistake about it. Bill O'Brien is

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Speaker 1: little to nothing. And so they should have just fired

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Speaker 1: But one one thing Bill O'Brien had, I think this

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Speaker 1: is this is all pro level stuff by Miles Jack

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Speaker 1: And when he did vacate the game, JP, you're dead

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Speaker 1: on the money. The performance of the defense overall drop

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Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of an impact with everybody else.

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Speaker 1: But I mean when he leaves the game, I mean

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Speaker 1: you notice, I mean it's almost like the energy just

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Speaker 1: kinda goes goes down. But that's a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: to lose in one game, you know, because you know

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Speaker 1: c J and d J. You're talking too of your

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Speaker 1: starting defensive backs, and you're already missing Gerald Wilson, who

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Speaker 1: is expected maybe back this week. And then I think

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Speaker 1: in the game you lost for a short period of

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Speaker 1: time Josh Allen and he came back and I guess

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Speaker 1: he appears to be fine. And then obviously losing Miles

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Speaker 1: was a significant loss in that game. So, uh, this

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Speaker 1: football team coming out of the the Cincinnati game, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about five guys that didn't finish the game. Because on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, you have Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: and Laviska Chanal. So what's the status of all these guys.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's gonna be And obviously we're looking

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Speaker 1: at the practice report and it looks like some of

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Speaker 1: these guys will play. But the reality is JP is

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Speaker 1: that Look, when you don't finish a game, as as

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Speaker 1: as a pro football player, then you come back the

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Speaker 1: next week. Just because you're playing doesn't mean you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be very good because a lot of guys play through

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Speaker 1: it and they can play through it and be at

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Speaker 1: an effective level, but a lot of guys can't because

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Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, you're just trying to be there

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Speaker 1: for your teammates. But if you're hurting, you're hurting, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it will be very interesting to watch even who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be active number one. But then of the guys

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Speaker 1: that are active, how effective can they be. We still

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Speaker 1: haven't seen the official injury report come down today, but

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Speaker 1: as of yesterday, as you would expect, a lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys did not practice in the first day of

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Speaker 1: the practice week. We usually get a better idea on

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Speaker 1: Todd wash today though, did say that Trey Herndon is

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Speaker 1: the backup Nickel. He said this in his press conference,

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Speaker 1: So Herndon sounds like he's moving inside. It could be

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Speaker 1: Sydney Jones or Chris Claybrooks to play outside at corner,

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Speaker 1: uh and two guys that as we saw Claybrooks jump

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Speaker 1: in there last week. But Sydney Jones a lot of

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Speaker 1: and a couple of guys that just don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of of time in this defense. No, neither one

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Speaker 1: of them have a lot of time. And when you

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Speaker 1: had Cdy Jos come in, I thought it was an

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Speaker 1: oppressive play because when when he came in, he had

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Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback actually attacked him with the very first

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Speaker 1: the field. I'm like, wow, and how a where is

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Speaker 1: the young quarterback that he knows that he out a

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Speaker 1: new defensive back in the ball game and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: take a shot right at him. That impressed the heck

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Speaker 1: out of me as far as the mindset of a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. But you know, there's a lot that we

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Speaker 1: don't know about with Playbrooks and Sydney Jones. I mean

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Speaker 1: we've seen little glimpse of glimpses of them here and there,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't seen them to where they've had to

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Speaker 1: play through an entire game. And look, the Texans have

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Speaker 1: a Will Fuller who is pretty fast now and uh

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Speaker 1: and if you sleep just for a second, or you

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Speaker 1: you make one misstep in your coverage on him, he's gone.

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Speaker 1: When I say he's gone, he's by you and uh

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Speaker 1: from watching the film of their game last week, he

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Speaker 1: got behind defensive backs on a regular basis, and uh,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a he is a one of the best

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Speaker 1: I think in the league right now at getting vertical

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Speaker 1: and he is their leading receiver right now with the

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Speaker 1: absence of DeAndre Hopkins. And so I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a great test for a very young secondary in

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to go against Will Fuller and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the wide receiving corps for them, you know, Cooks

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Speaker 1: and Cobb and all these guys that they kind of

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Speaker 1: acquired after they traded Hopkins. I mean, maybe this was

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Speaker 1: another reason why Bill O'Brien was gone, because they've gotten

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Speaker 1: pretty much next to nothing production wise compared to what

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Speaker 1: they would have gotten with DeAndre Hopkins. Blogs. Let's continue

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Speaker 1: our discussion about DeShawn Watson. He leads the league this

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Speaker 1: year and in times. He's been sacked sixteen times this year,

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Speaker 1: but that's kind of his m oh throughout his career.

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Speaker 1: He holds the ball, he runs with it. Um. I

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Speaker 1: think a couple of years ago he had what sixty

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Speaker 1: eight sacks or something and led the league. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Todd Washingtonday talked about the importance of keeping him

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Speaker 1: as a pocket pastor not letting him get outside, and

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Speaker 1: then that then you have to cover for longer, and

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Speaker 1: he can make plays either down the field, through the

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Speaker 1: air or with his legs in the running game. But

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Speaker 1: with the pass rush in the state that it's in

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Speaker 1: these days, can they go do that? Can they contain

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Speaker 1: him in that pocket? It's the big question mark, JP.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about four sacks in four games for the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: legitimately one, I mean, I mean a couple of them.

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Speaker 1: I mean the one that the two that Josh Allen have.

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Speaker 1: I mean he should be very thankful for the ones

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Speaker 1: that he have has. I mean, one of them was

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Speaker 1: a bad decision by the quarterback. He should have thrown

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Speaker 1: the ball away. And then the other one was essentially

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Speaker 1: a bust of playing a scramble for zero yard. You know. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not been very good and and I don't

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Speaker 1: expect it to change a whole lot. I think the

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Speaker 1: Texans offensive line JP, even though the numbers as far

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Speaker 1: as sacks on Deshaun Wahsington are pretty high, think it's

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Speaker 1: tackles are pretty good and Obviously, they paid a lot

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Speaker 1: of money for the left tackle. And when I say

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, they paid him a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And they gave up a lot of draft capital for

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Speaker 1: Larry Mtunsel, one of the reasons why I think that

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Speaker 1: Bill Brian's gone. And on the other side, they have

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Speaker 1: a a young man that they drafted, Tristan Worfs are

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Speaker 1: not worse a uh what was his name? The right tackle?

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Speaker 1: I got it here somewhere, Uh Titus Howard. Uh young

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Speaker 1: player last year and and they actually looks pretty good

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Speaker 1: to me watching him. He looks like he's improved. He's

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Speaker 1: a big body guy, small school from college wise, you know.

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Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson holds the ball a lot. So the

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Speaker 1: number of sacks I think that he can get can

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Speaker 1: be very misleading as far as Okay, you sit there

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Speaker 1: and you look at it and you go, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has been sacked sixteen times. We should be

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Speaker 1: The reason he gets sacked a lot is not because

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Speaker 1: a lot because he holds the ball, and he holds

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Speaker 1: even though he can hurt himself by thinking sacks, he

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Speaker 1: offenses are just bagging up and not respecting the run.

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Speaker 1: Are you know, if gardeners not in people stacking the box,

644
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: not respecting the past, or anytime you lose one of

645
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: the main guys who take most of the reps, you

646
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be difficult. D J. Chark Jaguars wide

647
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: receiver earlier this week and welcome back Jaguars Happy r J. P.

648
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Logaman getting ready for the Jags in

649
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: the Texans this Sunday, and we had to Chicago, Illinois

650
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: to welcome in Tony Basselli, who's getting ready for Thursday

651
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: night football the Bears and the Buccaneers tonight. Tony, good

652
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: to see you. By the way, the injury report is

653
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: a do out here just a little bit officially for

654
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: the Jags. Will get an update of that when it

655
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: officially comes down from the Jaguars PR staff. Tony, what's

656
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: up in Chicago? Actually, I ended up not I'm not

657
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: doing the game. I ended up staying here. And I know,

658
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: long story, it's a complex, interesting story that I'll tell

659
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: you at a later date. But I'm I'm in Jacksonville home. Okay, Okay, Well,

660
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: we're glad to have you here, Glad to have you here.

661
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: No matter where you are, We're glad to have you

662
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: here for sure. Let's actually, let's get to the Jaguars

663
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: injury report. It's about to be officially sent down, but

664
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Speaker 1: we have it here. How school was full today, that's

665
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: good news. Lender was full today. Uh and then some

666
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: other guys fulled. Tyler Shatley not injury related, he was back.

667
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Effort limited, A Quality limited, C J. Henderson limited today,

668
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: Miles Jack limited, Cam Robinson limited. All those guys did

669
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday. Josh Allen did not practice for the

670
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: second straight day. Guys coming off that knee issue last week,

671
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: he came back in the game, has not practiced yet

672
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: this week. And that's Tony certainly a little concerning for

673
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: the Jags defense. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean he's

674
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: your best pass rusher and that's talking about the team

675
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: that really can affect the quarterback right now, and he

676
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: has struggled to get the quarterback as well. But I mean,

677
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: we know he has the town the ability to do

678
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: it and to get hot and into really stress an

679
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. So I think you know, when you're one

680
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: of three and you come off two losses the way

681
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: you have, you know, backpack losses against um, the Dolphins

682
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: and the Bengals, and the way the defense is playing,

683
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: you need all hands on deck and best case scenario,

684
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean that long list of in uh that you

685
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: just went through a lot of more defensive players that

686
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: you need to count on, and you're going against the

687
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: Houston team that you know and four, but they got

688
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can play pretty you know, he's not

689
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: playing great this year, but he has the capabilities hurt

690
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars in the past. We'll get back with Jeff

691
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: coming up. But Tony, Yeah, when those guys went down

692
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: on defense last week, there was a notable drop off.

693
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Speaker 1: Certainly when Jack went out of the ball game, things

694
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: kind of came unraveled there for this group. Yeah, I

695
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: started going batter before that. I mean they gave him

696
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: a couple of long drives and then Japere exactly right

697
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: when Jack got heard. It was even worse, especially stopping

698
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: the run. I think it was more past before that. Um,

699
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: but Myles Jack left the game and all of a

700
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: sudden they were getting just gashed and you can see

701
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the run. Fits weren't very good to go to Watson

702
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: was Rugland and uh they need I mean, he's your

703
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: best player right now. I would argue that he's the

704
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: best player on this football team the way he's been

705
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: playing and at such a high level. So you definitely

706
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: want to get Miles back out there. But we saw him,

707
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: you know, hobbling noticeably on the sidelines during that game,

708
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: and it will be interesting to see. Um if he's

709
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: able to play. I doubt he'll be, but a lot

710
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: of guys aren't this time of year, or at any

711
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: point after you have one game, So it's a wait

712
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: and see situation with him. But the bottom line is

713
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: they have to play better. They have to play better

714
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: on on both sides of the ball, but I think

715
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: especially on defense. If they want to have a chance

716
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: to win football games. Tony. We heard from Chart there

717
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: at the start of the segment about and and basically

718
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: question was they kind of missed you last week, but

719
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: you made your your impact this past week against Cincinnati.

720
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Speaker 1: When you return to the lineup with the two touchdowns

721
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: and nearly a hundred yards, it's obvious when he's in there.

722
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: It gives Jay Gruden so many more options to spread

723
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: things out or they've got to cover deep, so maybe

724
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: they bring an extra guy out of the box for

725
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: the run game. If they're close to the game, they

726
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: can go to that run game. But you gotta have

727
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: all your weapons on offense. Chart see what Nault's situation

728
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: is this week when they have all those guys out there,

729
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: then Jake Gruden has his full assortment, his full arsenal

730
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: if you will. And what was Nault's status on the

731
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: injury report, JP, I can't remember what it was next

732
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to his name. Let's see here Chault limited yesterday and

733
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: today with a hamstring. But that's a good sign that

734
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: he's at least out there trying to do something. Um,

735
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: we'll get to you know where they are, whether they're probable,

736
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: question going you know everything else tomorrow but yeah, I mean,

737
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's breaking news for you. Um, it's

738
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: better to have your really good players than not have them.

739
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: He's your best receiver. You want them on the field

740
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: and they need them. And again we talked about with

741
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: the defense, and I mean the offense is playing better

742
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: than the defense, but still your origin for air, it's

743
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: very very small with this football team. I mean just

744
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: think back to the game where you didn't have chart

745
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: and we bemoaned the fact that there was a couple

746
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: of big drops and that like somehow like two players

747
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: changed the entire game early in that game. And when

748
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: you're a good team and you're you know, an efficient team,

749
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: you can overcome those And right now this team is

750
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: not able to overcome those type of mistakes. And they

751
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: really need to be playing on you know, at the

752
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: highest level, hitting on all cylinders, uh for them to

753
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: be effective. So I mean having Shark out there is critical.

754
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: You need James Robinson, you need I think Cam Robinson

755
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: is a big part of that, and it'll be interesting

756
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: to see if he can play left tackle. They're a

757
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: better team with him out there. And then obviously the

758
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: play of Gardner Minshew, Jeff Lagman is apparently back with

759
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: us now and on this well to be It's actually

760
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: it's good to hear you guys, because before I was

761
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: just scratchy. So I mean, you know, sometimes you guys

762
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: are painful to listen to. But it was really painful

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00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: there for a while. Wow. Thanks a lot, lugs. Appreciate that.

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00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm listening you guys on Monday night. And sometimes you

765
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: guys you're painful, painful. You know, I agree that those

766
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: two guys are painful. Yes, I agree. All right, So

767
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: let's let's get the the left tackle play in this

768
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: game coming up Sunday, Tony, how how good is Tounsil

769
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: and Logs? How would you attack Tonsil? I mean you

770
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: go first? How good is he? Yeah? I mean he's

771
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: a good player. He's in the upper echelon of left

772
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. I don't think he's overly physical. Um,

773
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: he's a good pass balker. He's a great, very good athlete.

774
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be in the right position. Um.

775
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's the highest paid left tackle. Do I

776
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: think he's the best left tackle all around game? I

777
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: would say no. Um, but you know he's a guy

778
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: that you know, you look at the last couple years

779
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: when we played him, he did a great job against Gockway.

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00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy you can count on as

781
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator to win one on one matchup. So

782
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that you want um playing

783
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: left tackle and he's a good player. He absolutely shut

784
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: down in Gockway, uh the entire game. I mean Gockway.

785
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: The only thing, the only the only sniff that in

786
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Gockway got of Deshaun Watson's deodor was when he would

787
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: he would go up against Laramie Tounsil and then wait

788
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson to escate somewhere and then in Gockway

789
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: would would pursue. And that's the only way that in

790
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Gockway got near HIMPS this past game against the Minnesota Vikings,

791
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: by the way, and Tonsil is a is a great

792
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: matchup for in Gockway. And the reason why Tony talked

793
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: about that he's not real physical. I think the way

794
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: that you have to pass rush Laramie Tounsil is you

795
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: have to be physical, you have to power him, you

796
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: have to bull rush him, and that's not his strong suit.

797
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: He if he can sit back there and just be

798
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: an athlete and catch you and not worry about your

799
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: power and strength of driving him back into the lap

800
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Then you know it's gonna be a

801
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: tough day. And so he's a good football player. You know,

802
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: through the Jaguars have anybody that can bring that level

803
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: of power to him. I think that's the one part

804
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen and also Calavon Chezan's game that they

805
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: need to ramp up. I think at times they're not.

806
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: They're not being physical enough. When I say physical is

807
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: pass rusher. You know, an Tony will tell you that

808
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: one of the hardest guys in the world to block

809
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: is a guy that's gonna bring power and he's got

810
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: speed and he's got moved Guys that can be what

811
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: I would term multiple because as an offensive tackle, they

812
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna do. And so I think

813
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: that Josh and Kalman need to add that to the

814
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: repertoire more consistently so that they can then have the

815
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: other stuff be a little bit more successful with the

816
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: speed and working the edges in the mood. Yeah, I

817
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: mean to Jeff's point, he's exactly right. I mean I

818
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: used to say, if if I didn't fear your power.

819
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: If I didn't respect your power, you had zero chance

820
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: of ever getting to the quarterback. There was no chance

821
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: you were not going to beat me. And Jeff and

822
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: I have had conversations and we joke around and I'm

823
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: not and I love him go way, I'd love I

824
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: wish you, you know, I wish it would have worked

825
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: out here. But I told Jeff I I would have

826
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: never I would not have been overly concerned with the

827
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Gockway as a pass rusher because he wouldn't have been

828
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: able to power me. And uh Tunsil's a guy that

829
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: is such a great athlete that if you don't bust

830
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: them in the chops early, then you have no chance.

831
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: Like you have to establish and put the some fear

832
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: in him that you can put, you know, hit him

833
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: in the mouth and push him back into the lap

834
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: of the quarterback so that you at least he's thinking

835
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: about it when he sets, and that he has a

836
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: little bit of lean. He's gonna get his hands out there,

837
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: because then as a rusher, you can chop the hands,

838
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: you can get the edge, and you can set things up.

839
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: But outside of you know, outside of the fear of power,

840
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: A good offensive tackle you're not gonna threaten now an

841
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: average or a bad offensive tackle you can beat all

842
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: day with speed. Um, you know, speed is gonna you

843
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: will kill those guys because they're not great athletes. You

844
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: can get the edge. And I'll go back to, you know,

845
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: playing a guy like Derrick Thomas, Hall of Famer, great player,

846
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: fast as you can believe. And if you played him

847
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: at home in casey with the sound, Um, it was

848
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: really difficult. But because I was not afraid of his power,

849
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: I could sit deep and wait for him and just

850
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: catch them. And it was I'm not saying I'm not

851
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: and it will never say it was easy because he

852
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: was such a great player. But um, there were guys

853
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: that were lesser known names. And Jeff you talked about

854
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: one last week, I think, and Michael McCreary. Michael McCrery

855
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens back in the day. You know,

856
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: did was not the athlete, did not have the ability

857
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: from a speed standpoint of it, Derrick Thomas, but he

858
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: would threaten you with power enough that you had to

859
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: respect it because he'd run you over if you didn't. Um,

860
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: that made it very difficult to block. Yeah, and and

861
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: and Tony is talking about JP for for a lot

862
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Speaker 1: of people out there, they might have a hard time

863
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: trying to understand what we're talking about, because you know,

864
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: we're saying, oh, hit him in the mouth early as

865
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: a as a pass rusher, and Tony alluded to a

866
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: little bit of this as a pass rusher, when you

867
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: show that you can be physical and you can power

868
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, it's so funny. And that offensive lineman

869
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: in defensive lineman two for that matter, everybody that plays football,

870
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: there's this thing about you don't want to be overpower.

871
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: And as an offensive lineman, sometimes you can get pushed

872
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: back to the quarterback and it's okay because you're making

873
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Speaker 1: it so much longer for the defensive end to even

874
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Speaker 1: have an impact on the quarterback. But the mindset of

875
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Speaker 1: football players are, I can't be pushed around. And so

876
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: when an offensive lineman gets pushed around, their next reaction

877
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: is when you're approaching them, they lean forward. Like Tony

878
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: talked about, they sit down a little bit to get

879
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: ready for power, and they show their hands a little

880
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: bit sooner and in some cases show all the way

881
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: because they're anticipating that power. Well, when they sit and

882
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: they lean forward. Now all of a sudden, when them

883
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: hands come out, you knock the hands and then you

884
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: go around the guy or or you can you know,

885
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: fake the power and then a little little chop swim.

886
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different things that get set

887
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: up off of power. And you know, I was never

888
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: a great pass rusher, but the one of the things

889
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Speaker 1: that I always did, and from watching some of the

890
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: great ones do it was that if you established power

891
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: early in the ball game, a lot of things were

892
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: able to follow suit. And uh and right now, I

893
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars, the edge pass rushers, I would like

894
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: to see them try to establish a little bit more

895
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: physical element early in the ball game and then let

896
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: the other things kind of fall into plate. Yeah, I

897
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: want to JP. Let me add on that. I'm gonna

898
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: tell two stories that Jeff I appreciate. Is he's so right.

899
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: It's about it's mentality as an offensive tackle. It's not

900
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: just getting run over and getting get out of sack.

901
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: It's the barrassment of getting pushed into the lap of

902
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and that's in your mind. And two things

903
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Speaker 1: of quick stories. I remember the first time we started practicing,

904
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905
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906
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Speaker 1: He couldn't have beat me and no pads if his

907
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Speaker 1: life depended on it. I mean, I was like, man,

908
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Speaker 1: this is a high price Freegan. I got it pretty good.

909
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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the first day we had the

910
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911
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been blocking this guy the whole time

912
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913
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914
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915
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback and one on one pass rush, and

916
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck was that? And the

917
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: rest of the time he was more difficult to block

918
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: in practice because now I respected this power and and

919
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: it made it more difficult. And the same thing. I remember,

920
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Speaker 1: I played against the late Chris Doleman, who's a Hall

921
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922
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: quarter of that football game, I was so worried about

923
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,960
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924
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925
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926
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927
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Speaker 1: It does not matter to me. He can try to

928
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929
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Speaker 1: on I had no problem blocking him. And the message

930
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Speaker 1: there is for young pass rushers is put the fear.

931
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Speaker 1: Just let them know, let them feel your power, because

932
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Speaker 1: it will change the rest of the game of how

933
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Speaker 1: that tackle approaches approaches you as a as a rusher.

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Speaker 1: hour in about seven minutes from now, JP Shadrick, Jeff Lagman,

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Speaker 1: and Tony Basselli. Let's take a look around the league,

1000
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: and obviously the biggest story in the league this week

1001
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: is the Tennessee Titans situation with COVID nineteen more positives

1002
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: as the days go along here, so their building is

1003
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: not open. The game this week is in jeopardy. Could

1004
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: this game be moved as a question? Will there be

1005
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: a week eighteen? Could there be a forfeit if they

1006
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: determined they broke protocol. There's numerous stories now that the

1007
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: Titans not only had one practice off site when they

1008
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to, but maybe numerous practices off site. And

1009
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: it's now a watch and wait and see what happens

1010
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: from Park Avenue in New York, Tony. Yeah, it's um.

1011
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean I would be shocked if they played football

1012
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, you have they are positives test today. Um.

1013
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: And so if you're not gonna open the facilities, you

1014
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: play Sunday. I mean how that it's almost two weeks

1015
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: you've been out of the building. So Um, the NFL

1016
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: is gonna have a scheduling issue and they're gonna to

1017
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: figure out what to do and where they put these games.

1018
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they can fix the one in the bye

1019
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: week right now. I I think they're gonna have to

1020
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: extend the season. Um as we go on push back

1021
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, push back the uh you know,

1022
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: either pushing get rid of the Pro Bowl, and you

1023
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: know you had a week there, maybe push the Super

1024
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Bowl back, but you're gonna see a change because or

1025
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna condense the schedule, um, based on how many

1026
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: games you end up playing, because there's no way you're

1027
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna get it through it all. And I think the

1028
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Patriots similar a similar situation because you're having positive stuffs there.

1029
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they're opened up for business yet. And

1030
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: I believe they do have a game this weekend, so

1031
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. As far as the Titans

1032
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: in in breaking protocol, I think it's pretty clear they did. Um.

1033
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of video evidence out there that they

1034
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: were practicing. UM. How the NFL comes down, I don't

1035
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: think they're gonna come down as hard as the new

1036
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: regulations say, because those kind of came out after all

1037
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: this surface UM. But I wouldn't see be surprised if

1038
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: you see large finds maybe losing a traffick. Um. But

1039
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go the forfeiture route at this point.

1040
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean you might, you might not

1041
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: have a choice about forfeiture. I mean not to me.

1042
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is only what four games in and

1043
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots already have or excuse me, the Titans have

1044
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: a second game that's threatened going into Week five, you know, so, uh,

1045
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: you may not have a choice, you know. And an Tonia.

1046
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Speaker 1: First of all, the Pro Bowl. You can get rid

1047
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl altogether. Yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna

1048
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl. It's a it's a total

1049
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: waste anyway, you know, So get rid of the Pro

1050
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Bowl because it doesn't matter. And uh, and take the

1051
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: time that you need if you can play every game

1052
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: that is in the league. I don't know if that's

1053
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: going to happen, but and I know there's a lot

1054
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: of things being talked about about expanding the season to

1055
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Speaker 1: eighteen weeks. Look here, here's the reality. If you need

1056
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: to expand it to twenty, then you go to twenty.

1057
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean that that may be what is necessary, and uh,

1058
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: and it's asking a lot. But at the same token,

1059
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Speaker 1: you're trying to perform in some pretty tough circumstances this year.

1060
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Speaker 1: And I would expect that the Tennessee Titans. I think

1061
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a pretty significant fine. I think it's

1062
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Speaker 1: gonna be draft picks. I think they're gonna try to

1063
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Speaker 1: find a way not to have a forfeiture. But boy,

1064
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Speaker 1: that that doesn't reflect very well. And Mike Rabel and

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Speaker 1: what they're doing in Tennessee as far as violating all

1066
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Speaker 1: these protocols not very smart. Yeah, the other argument is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, why should the rest of the league had

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Speaker 1: to adjust when all those protocols are broken? If that

1069
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Speaker 1: are proven to be the case, why they are having

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Speaker 1: all these positives? He always followed the money JP And

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Speaker 1: if and if all of a sudden you have to

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Speaker 1: have forfeiture of games, guess what, that's one less game

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Speaker 1: on television. And so if you're uh, CBS or box

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Speaker 1: or ESPN, and if you're getting one less game, well,

1075
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? Look, we're in this

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Speaker 1: to make money. I mean we're we're supposed to have

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Speaker 1: you know, X number of games, and if we don't

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Speaker 1: have X number of games, guess what, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a percentage decrease in what we pay you

1080
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Speaker 1: because we have less products. So, I mean, the NFL

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Speaker 1: will probably try to play every game that they can,

1082
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Speaker 1: might just have to end up, you know, stretching the

1083
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Speaker 1: season out a little bit longer. And if it takes

1084
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Speaker 1: twenty weeks. I mean, it takes twenty weeks, so be it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to even you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I'm actually shocked they played on Saturday Monday night,

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Speaker 1: knowing that Cam it been around a number of players

1088
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Speaker 1: that I mean, they were aware enough to separate the

1089
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Speaker 1: people who have been close to them into a separate plane.

1090
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Speaker 1: And and now you have Stephan Gilmore coming back positive, um,

1091
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Speaker 1: and so I think there's real threat that they don't

1092
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Speaker 1: play this week as well. So you start getting these

1093
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: things piling up on you a little bit, Um, And

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Speaker 1: I'm with Jeff, I think you're just gonna have to

1095
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: expand the season. You do whatever it takes. Um. Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick said it today. The player's safety comes first, making

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Speaker 1: sure everyone's healthy. Obviously. I think that has to be

1098
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Speaker 1: the you know, your philosophy moving forward as the league,

1099
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Speaker 1: and I think that's what it will be. Um. I

1100
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Speaker 1: just don't see. I don't see a way you get

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Speaker 1: all these games in under seventeen weeks. Alright, guys, quickly,

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, Tom Brady and the Bucks visit Satan,

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles and the Bears. Who you got tonight, Tody,

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Speaker 1: I got the I mean, the Bears can't score points,

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady just it's coming on five football games.

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: That offense is getting going. Um, they're gonna be without

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: Chris would win again, but they were with at him

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Speaker 1: last week and scored all those points. The Bears are

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Speaker 1: just awful. I mean just awful on offense. I mean

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Speaker 1: what they did against the Colts. And I know the

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Speaker 1: culture of the number one defense in the league, but

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Speaker 1: my goodness, um Tampa is pretty good at defense as well.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Buccaneers win this football game. You

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Speaker 1: got lives quick, real quick. I'm taking the Bucks. And

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Speaker 1: and if Foles was in relief as a backup quarterback,

1116
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Speaker 1: then I would have picked the Bears. But I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what he is. He's a backup. I mean, who

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Speaker 1: are we? Full wellogs. Thank you very much. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you in a second, Tony. We'll talk to you this weekend,

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Speaker 1: all right, tell coach I said, hello, We'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is out of here. The dug Brons show

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Thank you for watching and listening to

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