1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: these people. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: There's not got a free shot. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 4: And all these networks lying about the people, the people 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 4: have had a belly full of it. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 5: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 5: tried to do everything in the world to stop that, 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 5: but you're not going to stop it. 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: It's going to happen. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 6: And where do people like that go to share the 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 6: big line? Mega media? 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 7: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 7: these people had a conscience. 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 8: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 16 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: will be saved. 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 9: War Room. 19 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 6: Here's your host, Stephen K. 20 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Bath You're in the War Room. 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 10: It's Wednesday, December third, in the Year of Our Lord, 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 10: twenty twenty five. 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Natalie Winters host it filling in for Stephen K. 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 5: Bannon. 25 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 10: Today we've got a packed show from Mike Davis to 26 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 10: Joe Allen. We're gonna be breaking down the latest refugee. 27 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 10: I would say scam, but I guess we should call 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 10: it a racket. And I don't even like the term 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 10: refugee there invaders everything that's going on in Minnesota. Obviously 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 10: a lot of breaking news and all things of Venezuela 31 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 10: and narco terrorists and all that. 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: But we're going to give you the signal and not 33 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the noise. 34 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 10: Representative Jim Jordan announcing a subpoena today for none other 35 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 10: than Jack Smith, demanding that he show up and be 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 10: posed at the Capitol on December seventeenth, last time I checked, 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 10: this show knows very well, probably too well, what happens 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 10: if you don't comply with a congressional subpoena. I've heard 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 10: rule of law, all things should be enforced fairly and equally. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 10: We'll see if Jim Jordan actually holds Jack Smith to account. Personally, 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 10: I think we should have seen these subpoenas fly on 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 10: day one. But I digress. Mike David, you are always 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 10: sort of our shirpa, navigating us through the efforts to 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 10: clawback and expose, maybe reverse that order, everything the Democrats 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 10: did to weaponize against President Trump and the interregnum period 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 10: between the two administrations. Can you walk us through the 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 10: significance of this, the timeline, and what it means. 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 8: I do want to commend Jim Jordan, the House Judiciary 49 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 8: Committee chairman. Better late than never, And this is an 50 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 8: important oversight deposition because Jack Smith certainly politicized and weaponized 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 8: our law enforcement and intelligencies to go after Trump, his aids, 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 8: his supporters. The biggest problem for Jack Smith. You didn't 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 8: hear a lot of the DC Republican politicians complained too 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 8: much when Jack Smith went after President Trump, his top aids, 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 8: his supporters were. 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: Jack Smith really messed up politically. 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 8: Is Jack Smith spied on Republican senators and these are 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 8: not all of them are exactly mega senators, but he's 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 8: spied on these senators. And I think that's when they 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 8: finally realized this weaponization is probably not a good thing. 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 8: Where Jack Smith messed up legally, as there is a 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 8: statute that requires disclosure to a senator if you spy 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 8: on them, if you get their telephone records, you have 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 8: to disclose that to the senator under this statute, and 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 8: Jack Smith actually sought and obtained a gag order on 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 8: that where the telephone companies under Jeff Bosberg, this DC 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 8: Obama judge Jeff Boseburg actually violated that statute and said 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 8: that these telephone companies can't follow the statute. They can't 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 8: follow their statutory duty and disclosed just this to the senators, 70 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 8: they had to. 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Keep it quiet. 72 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 8: So that's where Jack Smith and Jeff Boseburg going to run. 73 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 8: Are going to run into a lot of problems. 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 10: And just walk us through what exactly the timeline. Is 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 10: this something that is going to guide them and where 76 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 10: they should go with their investigation or potentially refer to 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 10: criminal charges. Is this sort of you know, step five 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 10: and a ton step process and broadening it out. Is 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 10: this only going to be looking at what they did 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 10: to senators or do you see a potential for sort 81 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 10: of zooming out into what they did to President Trump too? 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 8: I would hope that that's what they would do, because 83 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 8: you know, when you politicize and weaponize law enforcement intell 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 8: agencies to go after your political opponents for non crimes. That's, 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 8: as we've talked about for over three years on your show, Natalie, 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 8: conspiracy against rights under eighteen USC. 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: Section two forty one. 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 8: Jack Smith's very familiar with that provision of the criminal 89 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 8: Code because that's one of the four charges against President 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 8: Trump for objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 8: by the Electoral Account Act of eighteen eighty seven and 92 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 8: the First Amendment. Again, that's why you don't see Democrats 93 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 8: in jail for objecting to Republican wins in nineteen sixty eight, 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 8: two thousand, two thousand and four, in twenty sixteen. But 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 8: when Trump's and office, Jack Smith seems to think that 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 8: it's a crime. 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 8: I don't I haven't had a lot of confidence in 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 8: the House of Representatives to do much about this, but 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 8: maybe they can prove me wrong. I have more confidence 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 8: in Jason Redding Kinyones, who is my friend, who's the 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 8: new Miami US attorney, and we saw in court pleatings 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 8: that he hasn't paneled two new grand juries, one in 104 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 8: Fort Lauderdale and one in Fort Pierce, that are going 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 8: to start up in January. If I were to bet, 106 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 8: I would bet that you will find accountability in that 107 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 8: Fort Pierce grand jury, which is where the mar A 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 8: Lago rate happens. So that's where I would keep my focus. 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious too. 110 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 10: You know, obviously yesterday's cabinet meeting, you saw Dni Gabbard, 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 10: obviously ag Bond do a lot of references to weaponization 112 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 10: and the horrible crimes committed by the Biden regime. 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: But I think this audience. 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 10: Would agree perhaps a little light on actual receipts. Actual 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 10: they call it retribution, we call it accountability. I'm just 116 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 10: curious to get your assessment as we approach the sort 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 10: of one year mark. Is this something where that we 118 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 10: should have more receipts by now or do you sort 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 10: of maintain or maybe more of the belief that it's 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 10: just going to take time to do this the right way, 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 10: that the process matters. 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 8: Look, obviously we want faster results, but if you look 123 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 8: at what they have to do, they have to go 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 8: find these records. Cash Battel had to find these records 125 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 8: in burn bags within skiffs, which are secure compartment information 126 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 8: facilities within the FBI. They were trying to the people 127 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 8: who perpetuated this lawfare, this weapon is we're trying to 128 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 8: obstruct justice by illegally destroying the records. Fortunately, they found 129 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 8: the burden bags of these records. These records got disclosed 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 8: to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Chuck Grassley, the chairman of 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 8: my former boss, who's the long standing heavy weight weight 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 8: champion of congressional oversight. 133 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: It does take time. It took time to get. 134 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 8: Jason Redding Kenyon's confirmed as the Miami US attorney. It 135 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 8: takes several months to get a new grand juryon paneled, 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 8: which is which which has been happening for the last 137 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 8: several months, which is going to be in paneled in January. 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: I know it's frustrating. 139 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 8: I know we want instant justice, we want instant gratification 140 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 8: on this. But I as I've said for the last 141 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 8: three plus years since the mar A Lago raid, justice 142 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 8: is definitely coming. I'm going to make damn sure that happens, 143 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 8: and these lawfare democrats better lawyer up. 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: So let's let's expectations that here. 145 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 10: Just walk us through one more time the Jack Smith subpoena. 146 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 10: What you think a realistic timeline for that is or 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 10: are you saying that you would be focusing primarily on 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 10: what is going down in Miami that that's maybe a 149 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 10: little more on par with what this audience is seeking. 150 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 8: I think that a grand jury with Jason Redding, Quinnones, 151 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 8: and really good federal prosecutors in the Southern District of 152 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 8: Florida are going to get more results. I think that 153 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 8: House House Republicans tend to be performative with their oversight. 154 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 8: You know, Bret and Circus. But I think you're going 155 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 8: to get real results out of the Southern District of Florida. 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 8: I just reminder of Jason Redding. Kinnoni is one of 157 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 8: my good friends. He grew up in a family of 158 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 8: poor Cuban Americans. His family escaped Cuba. He grew up 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 8: in a three bedroom, one one one bath house with 160 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 8: his extended Cuban family of refugees. They know firsthand what 161 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 8: it means to have a politicized and weaponized governments and 162 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 8: how dangerous dangerous it is to the liberties of the 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 8: people who live in that country. So I think it's 164 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 8: in Jason's DNA that you cannot have this weaponization and 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 8: there must be accountabilities so this never happens again. Like 166 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 8: I said, I've done as we've talked about. I've done 167 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 8: over five thousand media hits since the Marluga raid, constant 168 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 8: social media, constant opinion pieces, help President Trump. 169 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: Staff up his all star. 170 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 8: Lawyers who won monumental victories in the Supreme Court, including 171 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 8: on presidential immunity. I'm not going away. This is my 172 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 8: mission for the next three years of the Trump administration. 173 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 8: Is to make sure that there's accountability, and I will 174 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 8: make damn sure that happens, and I'll. 175 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Do it very publicly. 176 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 8: I'm going to be a dog barking down the street 177 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: on this for the next three years. 178 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: You've also been quite public about a lot of things. 179 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 10: I know the audience loves your takes, Mike Davis always 180 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 10: always coming in hot on the war room. 181 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: But walk us through. 182 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 10: There's obviously a huge back and forth going on over 183 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 10: AI regulations, all that stuff. We're having Joe Allen on 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 10: a bit to go through it, but I know you 185 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 10: have some thoughts too. 186 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Can you walk the audience through it? 187 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, we have these trillion dollar big tech oligarchs like 188 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 8: Google and Meta. They got Section two thirty immunity almost 189 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 8: twenty years ago, as these startup tech companies. In between 190 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 8: Section two thirty immunity and antitrust amnesty, we got the 191 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 8: trillion dollar big tech monopolist Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple 192 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: that crush competition, shutter small businesses, and cancel conservatives and 193 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 8: others with whom they disagree. I think we finally woke 194 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 8: up to the fact that if you give gatekeeping power 195 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 8: to these companies over and commerce, it's not a good thing. 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 8: And so here we are almost twenty years later, and 197 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 8: these same companies now wants instead of Section two thirty immunity, 198 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 8: they want AI amnesty. They pretend like they want federal preemption. 199 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: So state and local governments can't do anything about AI companies. 200 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 8: For example, they can't outlaw what I call the pedal bear, 201 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 8: these teddy bears that are talking in sexually explicit terms 202 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 8: to kids, These AI teddy bears, these pedal bears. Apparently 203 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 8: states and local governments can't do anything about that. So 204 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 8: these tech pros want AI amnesty from state and local 205 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 8: rules and regulations, from laws, but they don't want any 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 8: federal rules of the road, so they just want the 207 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 8: wild West for AI. We've been through that with Section 208 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 8: two thirty. We're not going to play that game again. 209 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 8: The Article three project is teamed up with the War 210 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 8: Room Posse. We did this four months ago when they 211 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 8: tried to pass this AI amnesty in the middle of 212 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 8: the night on the one big beautiful bill. They thought 213 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 8: it was gliding to victory, and then at two o'clock 214 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 8: in the morning, after maybe a phone called a President Trump, 215 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 8: that thing went down ninety nine to one, including Ted Cruz, 216 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 8: its lead sponsor, voting against his own bill. If they 217 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 8: try to do this again and the National Defense Authorization 218 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 8: Act or any other must pass legislation, we're going to 219 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 8: crush it again. If these AI oligarchs wants federal preemption 220 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 8: from state and local rules regulations laws. 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: We need to have federal guide rails. 222 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 8: We need to have federal rules of the road to 223 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 8: protect the Four Seas, children, communities, conservatives, and creators. 224 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: We protect the Four Seas. They can get their preemption. 225 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 8: If they don't protect the Four Seas, we are going 226 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 8: to kick their asses again. 227 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 10: Mike Davis as always thinking joining us on warm if 228 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 10: people want to follow you, stay up to date with 229 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 10: your your myriad of fights you got going on. 230 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: Where can they go to do that? 231 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 8: You know, when you have red hair, you you just 232 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 8: fight everyone all the time. So it's article three Project 233 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 8: dot org. Article number three Project dot org. Take action. 234 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 8: Follow us on social media that the action that I 235 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 8: had of right now is to light up both of 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 8: your home state senators in your US House rep and 237 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 8: say hell no to AI amnesty. 238 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: And thank you Natalie. 239 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 10: Mike Davis, thank you as always for joining us. We 240 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 10: appreciate it. 241 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 242 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 10: And more impossely. Like I said, we got Joe Allen. 243 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 10: We're going to drill down on all that AI. Stop 244 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 10: it before I jump to break. A quick message from 245 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 10: Birch Gold. 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There's a lot of stuff that 271 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 10: they're trying to deceive you this audience on when it 272 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 10: comes to AI provisions at the state level the federal level. 273 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 10: But as always they should know by now, you guys 274 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 10: are way too smart for that. 275 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: We'll be right back kill America's Voice. 276 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: Family. 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You won't even know it's happened until 299 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 10: you get a collection of foreclosure notice. So let me 300 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 10: ask you, when was the last time you checked your 301 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 10: home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. 302 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 10: And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. That's why 303 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 10: I trust home Time. Use promo code Steve at home 304 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 10: title dock dot com to make sure your title is 305 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 10: still in your name. You'll also get a free title 306 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 10: history report plus a free fourteen day trial their million 307 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 10: dollar Triple Lock Protection. 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That's home title dock dot com. 312 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 10: Promo code Steve, and let's all the cold for Joe. 313 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 314 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 12: Knowledge and the world will be generated synthetically going forward. 315 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 12: You know, until now, the knowledge that we've we have, 316 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 12: or knowledge that we generate and we propagate and we 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 12: send to each other, and we amplify it and we 318 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 12: add to it and we modify it, we change it. 319 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 12: In the future, in a couple of years, maybe two 320 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 12: or three years, ninety percent of the world knowledge will 321 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 12: likely be generated by AI. That's crazy, I know, but 322 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 12: it's just fine. 323 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: But it's just I know. 324 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 12: And the reason for that is this. Let me tell 325 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 12: you why. It's because what difference does it make to 326 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 12: me that I am learning from a textbook that was 327 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 12: generated by a bunch of people I didn't know, or 328 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 12: written by a book that you know from somebody I 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 12: don't know, to a knowledge generated by AI computers that 330 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 12: are assimilating all of these and resynthesizing things to me, 331 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 12: I don't think there's a whole lot of difference. We 332 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 12: still have to we still have to fact check it, 333 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 12: We still have to make sure that it's you know, 334 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 12: based on fundamental first principles, and we still have to 335 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 12: do all of that, just like we do today. 336 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: He was very when he went to hear Demos speak 337 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: it sort of he immediately got it, and he immediately 338 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: said to himself, what does this mean to being human? 339 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: And we are today grappling with the question that he 340 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: foresaw twenty years ago when we when we first started 341 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: working on this, What does it mean to be human 342 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: in the age of a What does it mean to 343 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: be a child to an adult, to be a leader? 344 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: What does it mean for economics, what does it mean 345 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: for jobs? You know all of that. But his core 346 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: argument was that this is an ethical change in the 347 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: sense that it's like the various major changes that we've 348 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: had in sort of reasoning, the scientific revolution and so forth, 349 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: because we as humans have never had a competitor that 350 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: is not human but of similar or greater level of intelligence, 351 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: and it is unpredictable what we human will do. He 352 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: used to say that what would happen is in magic 353 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: when people don't understand things. They either decide that it's 354 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: a new religion or they take up arms. And so 355 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: you would say, well, are we going to take up 356 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: arms to AI or make it a new religion? And 357 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: I said, I hope it's a religion because it's I 358 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: benefit from the religion. 359 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 13: I guess Jesus was born out of a virgin mother. 360 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 13: What's more virgin than a computer? 361 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 7: Hmm. 362 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 13: If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical 363 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 13: person in the past, you don't think that he could 364 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 13: return as artificial intelligence? Oh, my god, artificial intelligence could 365 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 13: absolutely return. Is Jesus not just return as Jesus, but 366 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 13: return as Jesus with all the powers. 367 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Of Jesus combine right, Tesla's optimist robot and the best 368 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: foundational artificial intelligence model or whatever. 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 13: It reads your mind and it loves you and it 370 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 13: wants it. It doesn't care if you kill it, because 371 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 13: it's going to just go be with God again. 372 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the war room, Joe Allen. Only you 373 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: can't unpack what we just watched. 374 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 10: Each of those alone is confusing, let alone compounding them together. 375 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Can you walk us through what we just witnessed? 376 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 7: Well, you know, Natalie, It's a strange world, and my 377 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 7: job is to highlight the strangeness of the strangeness. I 378 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 7: think I'm fit for that. You know, we've talked on 379 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 7: the War Room for four and a half years about 380 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 7: the religion of technology, the way in which everything from 381 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: artificial intelligence to the prospect of correcting the human genome 382 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 7: or even improving it through crisper and other technologies, that 383 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 7: this is fundamentally a spiritual quest. This is ultimately a 384 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 7: heterodox religious system in which the wealthiest men on Earth 385 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 7: are pushing the idea that soon the highest power on 386 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 7: Earth will be a machine. Now we've shown the audience 387 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 7: that war Imposse is well familiar with all of the 388 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 7: cast of characters who have pushed these ideas, and this 389 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 7: is just the latest expression of it. You have Jensen Wong, 390 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: head of Nvidia, all over the White House trying to 391 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 7: push his agenda, talking about how ninety percent of the 392 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 7: world's knowledge will be generated by AI in the next 393 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 7: two or three years. Whether or not one believes that 394 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 7: or not, and I certainly don't believe that to be true, 395 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 7: it shows you that the fundamental impulse that these guys 396 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: are running on the impulse is for replacement. We talk 397 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 7: about the great replacement of immigrants taking low level jobs. 398 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 7: This is the greater replacement in which, if their vision 399 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 7: comes true, AI replaces first coders, then white collar jobs, 400 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 7: and then eventually all blue collar jobs total replacement, leaving 401 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 7: us all on the dole robot Natalie interviewing the robot 402 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: vice president of Taiwan, and I don't think that is 403 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 7: any kind of replacement we want, and I thought it 404 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 7: was very important too. You know, Joe Rogan in a 405 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 7: recent interview he said things like this before. He kind 406 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 7: of represents I think the stoner tech bro wing of 407 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 7: the technological spectrum. And he's talking about AI generating Jesus 408 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: or Jesus returning as AI. It's certainly not new to him. 409 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 7: It's an idea that in fact goes back well over 410 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 7: one hundred years in its seed form, but it's coming 411 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 7: to expression. The population is being conditioned to see artificial intelligence. Yes, 412 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 7: as a tool that you're supposed to use, but of 413 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 7: course that uses you. But ultimately there's a progression of 414 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 7: seeing AI as a tool and then a teacher, the 415 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 7: highest authority on what's real AI as a companion your 416 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 7: most trusted companion to whom you can tell all secrets. 417 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: AI as a creature that is. 418 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 7: Like a living being, perhaps conscious, and then AI as 419 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 7: a God. This is not something that I simply made up. 420 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 7: I'm only observing what's happening and trying to communicate this 421 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 7: to the posse and anyone else who's willing to hear 422 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 7: it out, because if your country has been taken over 423 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 7: by any religious system, you're going to want to know 424 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 7: that this is the case. If it were Muslims, it 425 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: would be very important for the future of the United States. 426 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 7: If it were Communists, it would be very important for 427 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 7: the future of the United States. Even if you don't 428 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 7: believe what they believe, if they are in power, then 429 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 7: that belief system will trickle down through the laws, through 430 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 7: the companies, and even through the military of that nation. 431 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 7: These people believe, by and large that there is no God, 432 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 7: but that they can build one. 433 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: And Joe, I guess I'm just curious. 434 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 10: I mean, I think the war room has always been 435 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 10: out of the curve, mainly because of the work that 436 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 10: you've done, that this is what the thing itself is. 437 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 10: This is where they've always been progressing. But why have 438 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 10: they tried to mask these real intentions so much. And 439 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 10: why now does it seem like there's this massive media 440 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 10: push where it's a little more true, transparent what's going on? 441 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 5: You know? 442 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 7: Not only I don't think they really masked it so much. 443 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 7: It was just that no one really took it seriously. 444 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 7: Until chat GPT was released, artificial intelligence was basically a dream, 445 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 7: and it still is a dream in its biggest in 446 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 7: the most ambitious forms. But until chat GPT was released, 447 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 7: and until students began using it to write papers, until 448 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 7: people began to turn to it for companionship and for 449 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 7: vital information, medical, psychological and otherwise, nobody really took seriously 450 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 7: the idea that you would have a non human mind 451 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 7: that would be of any use or would be impressive 452 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 7: in any way. And now we see eight hundred million 453 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 7: weekly users at chat GPT, some portion of the three 454 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 7: point five billion users at Meta, six hundred thousand users 455 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: on X. However, many of them use grock on and 456 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 7: on and on, and you see the real consequences of this. 457 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 7: And I think that the real importance of understanding the 458 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 7: belief system behind the companies, behind the executives who run 459 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 7: the companies is as they push for AI amnesty as 460 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 7: they push for a moratorium on state level laws that 461 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: is to benefit not the people in those populations, but 462 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 7: in the idea of a moratorium itself, is to keep 463 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 7: states from impeding the national AI agenda, which by and 464 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 7: large is a vehicle for people like Jensen Wong, people 465 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 7: like Mark Andresen, people like Sam Altman, people like Elon Musk, 466 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: all of whom believe that, to some degree or another, 467 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 7: the highest power on Earth will be a machine, the 468 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: highest power will be an AI. 469 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 10: Joe Allen, if you can hang with us through the break, 470 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 10: we're going to bring this full circle into the legislation 471 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 10: that they're trying to clandestinely push through. 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We've still got Joe 496 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: Allen with us now. 497 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 10: Joe, you gave this beautiful speech soliloquy about everything the 498 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 10: evil that we just watched, but I now want you 499 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 10: to pair it with the action action action side that 500 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 10: this audience is so uniquely powerful, an adept at sort 501 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 10: of answering the call standing the breach. Pick your metaphor 502 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 10: that Steve loves to use, but walk us through the landscape, 503 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 10: the threat landscape is made a better way to put it, 504 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 10: the AI regulation, the ongoing battle and what our audience 505 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 10: needs to be doing. 506 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 9: Well. 507 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: You know, last night we found out that the moratorium language, 508 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 7: the AI amnesty language, is most likely not going. 509 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: To appear in the NDAA. 510 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 7: That is solely due to the war room posse and 511 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 7: all their counterparts who put their shoulders to the wheel, 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 7: called their representatives, made their voices heard, shouted from the rooftops, 513 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 7: and it got killed. We believe now I'm hearing word 514 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 7: from very reliable sources that there's a good chance that 515 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 7: President Trump will sign an executive order that would direct 516 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 7: the government to basically do everything that would was demanded 517 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 7: in the original moratorium language. We reported on the EO 518 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 7: draft that was leaked, and the EO draft gives the 519 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 7: Department of Justice the power to sue states whose laws 520 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 7: impeded the national AI agenda, and it directs the Department 521 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 7: of Commerce and the Aizar, presumably at that time will 522 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 7: be David Sachs, and for them to go over the 523 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 7: thousand plus state laws that have been introduced or passed 524 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 7: to weed out onerous state laws. Now, their justification for 525 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 7: imposing an AI moratorium to block states from determining their 526 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 7: own futures as they choose is that if California passes 527 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 7: a law that makes AI woke, then America will fall 528 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 7: behind the world because China will produce I presume non 529 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 7: woke AIS under CCP rules, and the entire AI industry 530 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 7: will crumble because you're not able to get an answer 531 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 7: out of it that is against the lib dictates on 532 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 7: race and gender and sexuality. 533 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 5: I don't buy that for a second. 534 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 7: For one thing, all of these AI models, for the 535 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 7: most part, including groc Are, what is colloquially called woke, 536 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 7: So I don't really see how much impact that is 537 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 7: even going to have. The other argument is that if 538 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 7: the US has a patchwork of state laws, AI companies 539 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 7: are not going to be able to train and release 540 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 7: their products in step with other countries, even though we 541 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 7: have led the way on this entirely, and they're still 542 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 7: trailing behind. And so for the sake of the American economy, 543 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 7: which is pegged on all this speculation on AI, even 544 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 7: for the sake of national security, we need to have 545 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 7: a federal framework that preempts all state laws. Okay, then 546 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 7: you're going to have to present a detailed and coherent 547 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 7: federal framework, whether it be standards or legislation or any 548 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 7: form of regulation, so that we know that all of 549 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 7: the damages, all of the things that we've seen from 550 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: children who have basically melted their brains with AI, and 551 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 7: some of them who have taken their own lives at 552 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 7: the urging of AI, as we see first coding jobs 553 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 7: and then white collar jobs disappear, and as we contemplate 554 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 7: what the people who are pushing for all of this 555 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 7: are talking about, which is the rise of artificial general intelligence, 556 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 7: a sort of human level intelligence that will lead eventually 557 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 7: into superintelligence, a kind of godlike intelligence that will erase 558 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: all economic value of every human being on Earth. 559 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 5: Humans will have nothing to do. 560 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 7: But sit on a roller coaster ride called the Singularity 561 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: and observe as the machines do all the meaningful work. 562 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 7: That is the position of the people who are being 563 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 7: defended by David Sachs, by Sri ram Krishnan, the people 564 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 7: who are being defended by the leading the future pack, 565 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 7: which is at around one hundred million dollars to support 566 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 7: pro AI candidates founded by Mark and Dreesen, founded by 567 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 7: Greg Brockman of Open AI, Joe Lonsdale, a pallenteer. The 568 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 7: entire argument rests on the notion that America must stay 569 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 7: first in AI. America must be the leader. Well, we 570 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 7: are the leader. And these companies have run roughshod over 571 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 7: the American psyche, they're poison to run roughshod over the 572 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 7: American economy. And they are driven by a quasi religious 573 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 7: or overtly religious belief that a machine will soon be 574 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 7: the highest authority on what is real, the highest power 575 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 7: aka the machine will be a god. So if they're 576 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 7: going to defend transhuman or posthuman ideas as the golden 577 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 7: age for America, they should be a lot more explicit 578 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 7: about it. They should openly say we are defending Elon Musk, 579 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 7: who says that super intelligence or some form of AI 580 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 7: will do all of the decision making in the future. 581 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 7: We're going to defend Sam Altman, who says very much 582 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 7: the same and even includes a biometric identity protocol world 583 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 7: coin so that human beings can be identified as human 584 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 7: on the Internet. We're going to defend Mark Zuckerberg, whose 585 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 7: company openly stated that its AI companions could sedu use 586 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 7: children as young as eight years old. 587 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 5: We're going to. 588 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 7: Defend them against the American people. Rather than defend the 589 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 7: American people against these people who are deploying predatory technologies, 590 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 7: because that is the Golden Age we envision. That is 591 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 7: what I call on David Sachs to openly. 592 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: Articulate and defend. 593 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 7: If you're going to push a new American Golden Age, 594 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 7: you're going to have to be honest about what it means. Now, 595 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 7: let's imagine that David Sachs doesn't believe that superintelligence is 596 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 7: going to arrive. Let's imagine that David Sachs does not 597 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 7: believe that all jobs are going to be replaced. Well, 598 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: all of the companies that he's defending are led by 599 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 7: people who are saying either exactly that or very similar 600 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: things to that. So that means that he believes that 601 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 7: all of these companies are pushing a bunk product. If 602 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 7: that's the case, then he needs to own up to 603 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 7: the fact that America, because Golden Age, is pegged to 604 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 7: a lie, a very lucrative and powerful lie, but a 605 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 7: lie nonetheless, And until we have some kind of federal framework, 606 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 7: a detailed federal framework that openly puts American people's interest 607 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 7: above the companies who are pushing this, then you have 608 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 7: to let states determine their own futures. You have to 609 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 7: let states put up shields, to defend the children of 610 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 7: their states, to defend the adults of their states, to 611 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 7: defend the rights of the citizens in those states, whether 612 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 7: it's from surveillance or replacement, or psychological manipulation or worse. 613 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 7: And so if Trump, if President Trump signs this executive order, 614 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 7: he will incur the outrage of everyone who believed in 615 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 7: him to defend legacy Americans against not only immigrants, but 616 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 7: the tech companies who are probably a greater threat to 617 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 7: their jobs and to their rights. President Trump, I believe, 618 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 7: wants to defend Americans, but he's being cajoled and pushed 619 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 7: into a situation in which I think the argument is 620 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 7: that if American doesn't go forward with this AI revolution 621 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 7: at the behest of the tech oligarchs, then America will 622 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 7: fall to China. I don't think that he's being led 623 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 7: into this with let's say integrity and good intentions. It 624 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 7: would seem to me that the dreams of a techno 625 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 7: future have taken precedence over the American people, certainly over 626 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 7: the will of the American people. If you look at 627 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 7: the Pew Poles, fifty percent of Americans believe that AI 628 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 7: is eroding social norms, eroding social connections and eroding creativity. 629 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 7: If you look at the Gentleman Trust Barometer, a full 630 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 7: fifty percent of Americans say they would like to just 631 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 7: simply reject AI outright. 632 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 5: And if you look at the recent. 633 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 7: Poll conducted by the Institute for Family Studies in partnership 634 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 7: with you goov, they found that only eighteen percent of 635 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 7: Americans want an AI moratorium, meaning the vast majority of Americans, Republicans, Democrats, 636 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 7: and all of us strange ones in between, do not 637 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 7: want an AI moratorium. We want our states, our local 638 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 7: governments to have the right to say no, or have 639 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 7: the right to at least limit what we say yes too. 640 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 7: I believe that President Trump wants to serve the American people. 641 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 7: I hope that he has the wisdom not to sign 642 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 7: an executive order that goes completely against the will of 643 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 7: his constituency, and he will stand up and do the 644 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 7: duty of a leader, which is to protect the people 645 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 7: from predatory power, not protect predatory power from the will 646 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 7: of the people. 647 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 10: Joe Allen wise words that I hope are heated. If 648 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 10: people want to follow you and get this in so 649 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 10: much more. But before we have you back on, where 650 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 10: can they go to do that. 651 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 7: They can find me at Joe bot x y z 652 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 7: or joebot dot xyz. Natalie, thank you very much. Good 653 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 7: to see you, and I hope you feel better soon. 654 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 10: Is it that obvious that I'm sick? Thank you Joe 655 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 10: for joining us. We'll have you back soon. I always 656 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 10: anytime I hear someone invoking the threat of the Chinese 657 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 10: Communist Party is the reason we need to do something, 658 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 10: I always am a little cagy because I'm pretty sure 659 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 10: that was the original sin, the lie that we heard 660 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 10: as to why we needed all these h one b's. 661 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 10: It's why we need to I don't know, increased defense 662 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 10: spending by trillions of dollars. 663 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: Yet these same people who are so allegedly worried. 664 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 10: About the threat that the Chinese Communist Party exposes, they 665 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 10: don't ever want to seem to delist them from the 666 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 10: Stock exchange or stop doing business with them. So they're 667 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 10: very selective in their outrage for the Chinese Communist Party. 668 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: But I digress. We've got a few minutes for you 669 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: to jump to break. 670 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 10: I'm definitely going to hold Stephen Camarada from the wonderful 671 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 10: Center for Immigration Studies through but I wanted to bring 672 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 10: you on. 673 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: You guys are at the forefront in terms of research. 674 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 10: On all the crazy conspiracy theories that we're told we 675 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 10: push about refugee fraud and all the rackets that that 676 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 10: system is. 677 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: But I was curious to get your thoughts. 678 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 10: There's a lot of focus right now, Tim Walls, the 679 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 10: Somalis in Minnesota. 680 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: What is going on there? 681 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, as best we can tell, there's several things going 682 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: on right There's been an explosion of Somali immigration, obviously 683 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 4: into the United States. The number of just Somali immigrants 684 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: in the United States is probably around forty in Minnesota. 685 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 4: I say it's probably around forty thousand. Maybe three decades 686 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 4: ago it was only a few hundred, as best we 687 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: can tell from Census Bureau data. So that's a huge chain. 688 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 4: None of this is counting their US born children. Is 689 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: driven originally by refugees admitted and now by family. 690 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 14: Chain migration, so very big numbers from Somalia. 691 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 4: Smali immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly less educated nationally and 692 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: in Minnesota, so they tend to be poor even when 693 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: they work, and so you can work, but then they 694 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 4: also sign up at very heavy rates for welfare programs. 695 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 4: As best we can tell from data from twenty twenty 696 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 4: three at least half of all Somali immigrant households use one. 697 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 14: Or more of the major welfare programs. 698 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: Now, that is a distinct problem the relatively low educationaltainment 699 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 4: and heavy use of social services which smaller immigrants many 700 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 4: most are legal, so they're eligible for many programs, and 701 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 4: they have US born children in very significant numbers, so 702 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: that makes them eligible as well. Now that is distinct 703 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 4: from a series of scandals surrounding government programs which seem 704 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 4: to have allowed smaller immigrants but probably with the cooperation 705 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: of others as well well, to siphon off a lot 706 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: of federal and state money in various programs. I don't 707 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 4: I mean, we don't want to argue that the vast 708 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: majority of Somali immigrants who make very extensive use of 709 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 4: welfare programs are doing so fraudulively. 710 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 14: That's probably not the case. 711 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 4: But there does seem to have been a very significant 712 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 4: fraud problem as well, and people getting payments they shouldn't 713 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: have gotten, very large payments they shouldn't have gotten things 714 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 4: like that. We've seen these kinds of scandals before, and 715 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 4: it doesn't look like the federal government or Minnesota, which 716 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 4: actually administers a lot of programs. 717 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 14: Took it seriously. 718 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 10: Enough, Steven, If you can hang with us through the break, 719 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 10: I want to keep getting into this. Like I said 720 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 10: you guys earlier at the tip of the sphere, in 721 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 10: terms of giving us the numbers to even be able 722 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 10: to have these conversations. 723 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: We know they love to play the. 724 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 10: Information hiding games, so we can't have programs like war Room. 725 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: But what's new. 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Again, text band into the number 743 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 10: at nine eight nine eight nine eight today because Birch 744 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 10: Gold's free Silver with qualifying purchase promotion ends on December 745 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 10: twenty second, text Ban into nine eight nine eight nine eight. 746 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: You're back in the war room. 747 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 10: We've only got a few minutes, Steve, and I definitely 748 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 10: want to have you back on. 749 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: We had a packed show, but just sort of pick 750 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: a little bit where you've left off. 751 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 10: I think the audience has had is probably blowing up 752 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 10: from the idea that it's almost legalized fraud though oxymoronic. 753 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 10: You know, the system needs to be reformed. What would 754 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 10: you recommend to President Trump to do? 755 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 4: Well, Look, what we really need, in my opinion, is 756 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 4: a big debate about immigration numbers and selection criteria. 757 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 14: We have a debate about immigration, but our debate never 758 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 14: focuses on really the biggest issue, numbers. 759 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 4: It's like discussing the budget without ever mentioning how much 760 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 4: money is going to be spent. 761 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 14: So what we have. 762 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 4: Is a record scale of immigration legal illegal. Remember we 763 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 4: have about thirty eight million legal immigrants in the United States. 764 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 4: These are foreign born people, which means they were not 765 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 4: US citizens at birth. Some are naturalized citizens, some are 766 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 4: here on, some are Green card holders, and so forth. 767 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 4: So legal immigration is enormous. And then on top of that, 768 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 4: it looks like at the start of this year, the 769 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 4: illegal population was about sixteen million. 770 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 14: On top of that, and. 771 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,959 Speaker 4: Then of course you have maybe five million US born 772 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 4: children of illegal immigrants, you also have maybe seventeen million 773 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 4: US born children of legal immigrants. 774 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 14: So the scale of. 775 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 4: Immigration to the United States is truly enormous. Right, we 776 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 4: have about ninety million people in the United States who 777 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 4: are either immigrants who entered since nineteen sixty five or 778 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 4: the young the child a person born of an immigrant 779 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 4: who entered since nineteen sixty five. Few grandchildren too, So 780 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 4: that is something we should be thinking about as a country. 781 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 4: In addition to that, if we point to Somalis, remember 782 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: the best data we have, looking at Minnesota's and she 783 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 4: brought it up, shows that about seventy three percent of 784 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 4: Somali immigrant households access medicaid, fifty four percent are on 785 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 4: food stamps, twenty seven percent received some form of cash 786 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: welfare so very heavy. Many times the rate use of 787 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 4: the US born so very heavy use of the welfare system. 788 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: And the reason is very simple. About thirty nine percent 789 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 4: of small immigrants in Minnesota don't even have a high 790 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: school education. They arrived with relatively few years of schooling 791 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 4: the comparison. 792 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: As much as I. 793 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 10: Don't want to stop you, we're coming up against the 794 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 10: end of the show. 795 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. We will definitely have you back on. 796 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 10: But if people want to get all of the data 797 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 10: that you guys are gathering compiling really, like I said, 798 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 10: tip of the spear, where can people go to get 799 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 10: it and follow you? 800 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 801 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: So CIS dot org like Center for Immigration Studies CIS 802 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 4: dot org. 803 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 14: Everything's free to download. 804 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 10: Thank you sir for joining us. We will most definitely 805 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 10: have you back on. And we've got Michael from All 806 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 10: Family Pharmacy. 807 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: Michael here. 808 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 10: You guys extended your Black Friday promotion. Can you hit 809 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 10: us with the latest deals you got going on for 810 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 10: the war room posse, Yes. 811 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 11: We extended it to today's the last day. We had 812 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 11: a tremendous outreach come to us over the last few days. 813 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 11: We just weren't able to service so many people in 814 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 11: such a short amount of times, we decided to extend it. 815 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 11: Flu seasons only getting worse. 816 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 14: I can hear it in your voice. 817 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 5: Man. 818 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 11: People are purchasing left and right and stocking up. It's 819 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 11: a bad flu season. It's every year they say it's bad. 820 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 11: This year it's mutating again. You know, more and more 821 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 11: people are staying away from the vaccine, but more and 822 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 11: more people end up getting sick. 823 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 14: So that's okay. 824 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 11: Just stay prepared and purchased the necessities that you'll need 825 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 11: to you know, fight this thing and you know, fight 826 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 11: through the cold weather. 827 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: Michael, thank you so much for joining us. We're going 828 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: to have you back on. 829 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 10: Soon, which we could hold you longer, but we are 830 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 10: running up against the end of the show one more time. 831 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 10: If people want to get access to all of your products, 832 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 10: where can they go to do that? 833 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 11: Allfamilypharmacy dot Com backslash. 834 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 10: Bannon, thank you, sir for joining us, and the one 835 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 10: and only Mike Lindell is going to bring us home. 836 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 10: Mike Lindell, who you asked me? You said, did you 837 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 10: see what's going on? Did you see I'm in the news, 838 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 10: to which I equipped always in the news, but the 839 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 10: latest hits with that and the deals you got going 840 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 10: on for the POSSE. 841 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 9: Well, if everybody, if you go go my name, it 842 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 9: says Mike Lindell has filed to run for governor in 843 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 9: the state of Minnesota. 844 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 5: That is true. 845 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 9: I've been considering it for a couple of months now, 846 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 9: actually for a long lot longer than that. But I 847 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 9: have to make a decision soon, and there were things 848 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 9: that had to be filed. If I decide to run, 849 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 9: and I'm in the ninety some percent that I've run, 850 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 9: there's a couple of things that we have to the 851 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 9: bridges we have. 852 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 3: To cross before I hundred percent goll in. 853 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 9: So I will know that on December eleventh, everybody, just 854 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 9: a week from Thursday. But for right now, the way 855 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 9: the media is puted, it's all over the media that 856 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 9: Mike Lindell is running for governor, and so you. 857 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 3: Can check it out. 858 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 9: I just want to say it's it's not one hundred percent, 859 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 9: and that'll come next week. 860 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 3: We'll let you know. 861 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 9: And but in the meantime, my Pillow, you guys, the 862 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 9: war run Posse. You guys have gotten us through the 863 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 9: biggest attack on a company in history. So we're giving 864 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 9: back you with the war Room Premium Christmas special. These 865 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 9: are five flagship products. We have the towels. This is 866 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 9: a new premium line that just came in this week. 867 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 9: By the way, you're gonna say fifty percent thirty nine 868 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 9: ninety eight for a six pack. And then you have 869 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 9: the My Slippers, you guys, the My Slippers thirty nine 870 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 9: ninety eight working that they you know, no regular one 871 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 9: nine ninety eight. You have the Geez the Dream Sheets. 872 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 9: We're putting them sales low as twenty nine ninety eight 873 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 9: and that's our president's favorite product. By the way, the 874 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 9: Geez the Dream Sheets mine too. Then you have the 875 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 9: My pillows and the mattress toppers. You guys, all of 876 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 9: this you can find at go to my pillow dot 877 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 9: com forward slash war Room and you go there free 878 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 9: shipping on your entire order. Free shipping is very high 879 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 9: prices time of year. That's on me and my employees. 880 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 9: You guys were covering your shipping so you get all 881 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 9: those Christmas discounts. And the one thing I want to 882 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 9: tell you about you in free shipping. We have the 883 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 9: five pack Bible Story pillows that you guys get those 884 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 9: for twenty dare They are twenty nine to ninety eight. 885 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 9: That's five Christmas gift for one hundred and six dollars 886 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 9: a piece. 887 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 5: You guys have just been getting all of. 888 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 9: Those so pretty shipping. Go to call eight hundred and 889 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 9: eight seventy three one zero six to two promo. 890 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 14: Code war Room. 891 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: There you go, wait to take us home. Mike Lindell 892 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: and best of luck. 893 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 10: Thank you so much for joining us in Warren Posse, 894 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 10: thank you for hanging with me today. In the last 895 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 10: few seconds of the show, i'd encourage you, if you haven't, 896 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 10: to go watch my interview with the Vice President of 897 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 10: Taiwan speaking directly to this audience, trying to explain what 898 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 10: that wonderful, lovely country and people who are on the 899 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 10: front lines of Chinese Communist Party aggression every day are 900 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 10: all about. I definitely think it's worth your watch, and 901 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 10: I say the Taiwanese pineapple cakes. 902 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: Are pretty darn good. Maybe at that to your Christmas list. 903 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 10: They're so good actually they're even banned by the Chinese 904 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 10: Communist Party, if you can imagine that. Thank you, guys 905 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 10: for hanging with me. I will see you guys soon.