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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Uh, you know, not that much going

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Speaker 1: Something hit me just the last couple of days watching

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, when it's third and eight, third and eleven,

427
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Speaker 1: third and six and the guy runs an out route.

428
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Speaker 1: Can he hit him in the hands? Where is he

429
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: gonna airmail him? And when they do dial up a

430
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: couple of deep shots. Let's say it's fourteen fourteen in

431
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: the second half and they dial up a deep shot

432
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: and they got the guy. Does he airmail him? Because

433
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: I've seen him do that too often? If he doesn't,

434
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: the Bills can win this game because their team is better,

435
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 1: but their quarterback It's hard to trust in this situation.

436
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: I've I find it difficult to think that the Bills

437
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: can overcome a bad game by Josh Allen. Now, if

438
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't turn the ball over and he is just

439
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: accurate in for his level, I don't need se but

440
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: I just no turnovers, you'll have a chance. And it's

441
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: not like the Houston Texans is some crazy home field advantage.

442
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: So I'm rooting for the Bills. I want to pick

443
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: the Bills. Houston is probably the safe bet, but screw it.

444
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: I'll take the Bills in this game. Uh, mainly just

445
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: going the X factor of their defense and they have

446
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, the corner White from l s U to

447
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: go up against Hopkins and then I'll just keep my

448
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: fingers across Josh Allen can make some play. It's a

449
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: pretty good game. This is This is a pretty good

450
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: UH Saturday afternoon opening to the NFL playoffs. I can't

451
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: complain game too. Tennessee at New England. Pretty clear who's

452
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: got the best quarterback and coach in this game? I

453
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: think the coach. It's a no brainer, Belichick. If you

454
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Speaker 1: just wanted to go in a vacuum of recent weeks,

455
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah, Ryan Tanny Hills playing better than Tom Brady.

456
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: But under no circumstances can I say with a straight

457
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: face you'd rather have Tom Brady than Ryan Tanny or

458
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannie Hill than Tom Brady in a playoff game.

459
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Even the biggest Patriot haters would agree with me. There.

460
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: Titans are getting five points on the road, which is

461
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. If I would have said the New

462
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: England Patriots are hosting a sixth seed and they got

463
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Tanne Hills a quarterback, he'd be like a ten

464
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: point favorite. That's where the X factor comes in. The

465
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: elephant in the room in this game? Is this the

466
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: last Brady Belichick game? And it's it feels kind of

467
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: real like if they were to lose this game, is

468
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Tom gonna retire? Is Tom gonna go play somewhere else?

469
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: What's going on? I don't necessarily know. I kind of

470
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: hope Tom just leaves. I just would like to see

471
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Speaker 1: a new quarterback, just mix it up. Every good thing

472
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: eventually comes to an end. But here's the other thing

473
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Speaker 1: that I remember from the Titans. Three weeks ago, when

474
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Speaker 1: the division was still a possibility for them, they hosted

475
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, and the tech has kind of took

476
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: it to him. Now. The next two weeks they played well.

477
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: The next week they played the New Orleans Saints and

478
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: I think Derrick Henry was out that game and it

479
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: was still really competitive. And then obviously last week they won,

480
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: but the Titans arresting a lot of people, but Derrick

481
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Henry was running wild. Agia Brown looks sweet that they're

482
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: playing well. They got some Derrick Henry should be able

483
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: to run wild on these guys. And A. J. Brown

484
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: has just been balling, and Mike Rabel John Robinson, the

485
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: general manager their New England Patriot guys. They kind of

486
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: understand what they look for in these big games. They

487
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: know the way that franchise wired. I think that helps

488
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm not saying putting much into that,

489
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: but I'm taking the Titans, and I'm not some Patriot hater.

490
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: If anything, I'm a Patriot stand I think Belichick's the

491
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: greatest coach ever. I think uh Brady's the greatest quarterback ever.

492
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Speaker 1: And I think they've had one of the great twenty

493
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Speaker 1: year runs in the history of sports. You could argue

494
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: it with modern day salary caps and the draft, and

495
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: they've had the greatest twenty year run ever in sports.

496
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: You could to argue that when you wanted a factor

497
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: in free agency. But everything eventually comes to an end,

498
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: and it does feel like their mojo. How with the

499
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: wild card on the line at home, would Belichick and

500
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Brady lose to the Miami Dolphins and they did? So? Yeah,

501
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't think this is just some fake talking point,

502
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, debate show bullshit. I think the Patriots have

503
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: really real issues. They've They've showed it to us over

504
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: and over and over again. But last week at Foxboro

505
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: was the craziest, and every Patriot fan would tell you

506
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: that's insane. Lose with the Dolphins at home with the

507
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: number two seed on the line. Now, I'm not even

508
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: that big of a believer in Tennessee. I just think

509
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: they're I think they got some pretty good, big impact players,

510
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: and I think Canny Hills played pretty well this year,

511
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: and I want to bet on an underdog. I'm actually

512
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: thinking about doing a little parlay with the Tennessee Titans

513
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. Seems a little extreme, but I

514
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: actually like the Titans in this game. We're going to

515
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: do that Bills against Houston. It's kind of crazy that

516
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: the that the New England Patriots, there's a chance for

517
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: them not to make it. In the second week of

518
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they were eleven and one, like a month ago.

519
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: Think about that. Minnesota at the Saints, uh coach Quarterback

520
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: Saints X factor. There's only one X factor, and that's

521
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: just the Saints are dramatically better franchise, dramatically better operation,

522
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: dramatic dramatically better franchise might be strong. The Minnesota Vikings

523
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: have been solid, but since they signed Kirk Cousins, they've

524
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: been off, and I would say the X factor for

525
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: the Vikings his cousins. He's oh and nine in the

526
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: primetime games. Nobody and I repeat nobody beside his family

527
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: trusts him in a big spot. How in a million

528
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: years do I expect him to go into the Dome

529
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: arguably the hardest place to play in the NFL, definitely

530
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: in the NFC, besides like Seattle, and win a game

531
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Speaker 1: when the Saints I have to be one of the

532
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: best number three seeds I've ever seen, because even Packer

533
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: fans would tell you, like, yeah, we're good, but I

534
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: don't know if we should be the number two seats.

535
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: This should have been the two seeds, but the way

536
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the tiebreakers worked out, there the three seats and now

537
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Minnesota has to pay. The only way I can see

538
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota upsetting the Saints. I look back at the box

539
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: score when the Falcons beat him, and they ran for

540
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: about a hundred forty five yards and they sacked Breeze

541
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: like six times. So to me, the game plan is

542
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins not throwing the ball a lot. It would

543
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: be like a hundred and fifty plus yards just to

544
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: cook alone. Probably to run for about two hundred yards

545
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: for Cousins and not turn the ball over, which would

546
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: be difficult for him and them to sack the living

547
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: crap out of breeze. That would be the blueprint. If

548
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: that would be the only chance they have to win

549
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: that they have no shot. If it's like a Saints

550
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: forty nine or shootout game, Cousins doesn't have that pitch

551
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: in the bag. That that's uh, that turns into a

552
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: forty to ten blowout real quick. And that's why I

553
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: probably tend to see this game probably like thirty five

554
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: to ten something like that. Have they just knocking if

555
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball, I don't see how Kirk

556
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: Cousins throws it on these guys. I like the Saints

557
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: line the latest I saw seven and a half. You

558
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: probably right around that number. Hell, I might take the

559
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Saints minus seven and a half Seattle at Philly. This

560
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: is a tough game, uh, I think there. If you

561
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: go coach, you could argue it's a wash. Now. Pete

562
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Carroll has been doing a lot longer, but Doug Peterson

563
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: won a playoff, won the Super Bowl two years ago,

564
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: in a playoff game last year, so in the last

565
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: two years he has four playoff victories, one on the

566
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: road against the best defense in the league with a

567
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, and he won a Super Bowl. He beat

568
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick the quarterback clearly as Russell Wilson. But I

569
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: wrote an article today for the for the Athletic about

570
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: the teams that the Niners might play next week, and

571
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I looked into Carson Wentz's numbers over the last four

572
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: games or four game winning streak. He gets seven touchdowns,

573
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: no picks, and a completion percentage about sixty. And Doug

574
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Peterson told him over that straight you reminded him a

575
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: little bit of far where he just took the team

576
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: and put him on his back. Now, Seattle, despite losing

577
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: Chris Carson signing Marshawn off the couch, they still got Locket,

578
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: They still got dk Metcalf, Hollister is a good player,

579
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and obviously they got Russell. Where Philly, you know, ERTs

580
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: has broken ribs and potentially like a leaky spleen, uh

581
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: DeShawn is out au Sean m i A for weeks.

582
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: They're playing with practice squad running backs and practice squad

583
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers and Dallas Godder. But this the place of

584
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: the link, like that's the X factor. Home playoff games

585
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: and certain markets do matter, and you could argue that

586
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: Philly and that fan base, you know, for as cool

587
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: as it was being the one seed two years ago,

588
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: what really made that run special was they kind of

589
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: turned into the underdog when Carson Wentz went down and

590
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Nick Foles was the quarterback. When you think of Philadelphia

591
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: was the first thing most sports fans think of, Rocky

592
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Vince Papali. They are the underdog, and they're literally the

593
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: underdog in this game, though with Seattle having a million

594
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: injuries to to me, it's a true coin flip game.

595
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: But I think it's easy for the Eagles fans to

596
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: just play the underdog role because they kind of have

597
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: been over this last month. The Cowboys are supposed to

598
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: win the division. The Cowboys supposed to win the division.

599
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: Injury injury injury injury didn't matter. Carson Wentz kind of,

600
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, shook the narrative that, you know, he couldn't

601
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: carry the Eagles. He wasn't gonna be Nick Foles. He's

602
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: not Nick Foles. He's much more talented now. He hadn't

603
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: been playing that well and he started playing really well

604
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: this last month. Now, you could argue as the Giants twice,

605
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and the Cowboys. Either way, he led him

606
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. If this game was in Seattle, I

607
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: would like Seattle. If this game in Philly, I still

608
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: tend to lean Seattle. But it's hard for me to

609
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: discount the Eagles. It really is. They have the coach

610
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: has been there, the quarterback has not. But he gets

611
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, breakthrough his playoff virginity at home,

612
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: which helps. I mean, it really helps that that whole

613
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: crowd is gonna be behind him. So if Seattle cannot

614
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: run the football, I like Philly. I mean I I

615
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean Philly. I don't feel great about it.

616
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: This game is really really hard to pick. I mean,

617
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: you're basically it's like a pitching duel. It's just Russ

618
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: would be like Surezer verse Strasburg. You know, it's just

619
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Russell even though they're on the same team, Russell Wilson

620
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: verse Carson Wentz. Because they got a lot of randoms

621
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: around them right now. I mean, I saw clowning in

622
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: practice to day. It's just they got a lot of injuries.

623
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: If you can buy the two injuries on this team,

624
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine if you added up the money

625
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: of the injuries that are on the sideline. But so

626
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Bills. Don't feel good about Titans, my

627
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: upset pick feel good about just because I think New

628
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: England's and shambles Minnesota no chance like the Saints, and

629
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean Philly. I'm gonna lean Philly. So enjoy

630
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Okay, let's Middlecofp mailback. Let's get it going

631
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: at Jim Middlecoff Instagram slide up in those d m s.

632
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: John had a thought come to me last weekend after

633
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: watching the Niners and then the Chief's play. Travis Kelsey

634
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: and George Kittle are both the lead talents, but they

635
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: run completely different after the catch. I like this. Kittle

636
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: has some gronk to him and runs extremely violently, But

637
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: with that, you have to wonder how his body will

638
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: hold up. Would you rather have him have him run

639
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Speaker 1: a little more like Kelsey after the catch and stay

640
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: healthier over the course of his career, or demoralized defenders

641
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: and risk injury. That's a good question, and it's something

642
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: that I've really noticed from George Kittle this season is

643
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: when he gets the football, and there is a defender

644
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: around him, especially someone that I would consider inferior, you know,

645
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: like a smaller safety, you're definitely a corner, or even

646
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: like a nickel linebacker. He'll lower shoulder and try to

647
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: kill the guy. And I haven't thought about it, and

648
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I praised him for that, But yeah, I would say

649
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: one thing they'll probably have to work on in the

650
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: off season is just being smart about it. There's one

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: thing right fourth and five game on the line against

652
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: the Saints, breaking tackles and tossing guys second quarter against

653
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Cincinnati Bengals. Do you need to truck

654
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: the safety? It's it's a hard balance, it really is.

655
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: But if he's gonna play twelve years, you're right, he's

656
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: gotta be smarter he does. Where do you see sports

657
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: data analysts going in professional football? And do you think

658
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: it will work in the NFL? It seems like the

659
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: NFL is slightly behind basketball and Major League UH in

660
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and big data movement, I'm part of

661
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: particularly invested or interested in how you, as a former scout,

662
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: feel about it when analyzing a potential prospect or trade acquisition.

663
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Is it a tool that helps or something that trumps

664
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Speaker 1: the gut instinct of a scout seems like something there's

665
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: tension between data analysts and scouting. I you know, this

666
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: is a little overblown. Football has always used analytics. What

667
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: do you think the combine is ford your dash, body weight,

668
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: body mass index, height, you know, production, catches after the catch, yardage, fumbles.

669
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Speaker 1: I mean they've used stats forever. I think as long

670
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: as you mirror those with your eyes, you won't make

671
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: good decision. To me, the biggest difference though, and I

672
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: think this goes for all sports. What separates like the

673
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: best players in any sport, but specifically in football, and

674
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I'd even go with basketball, where toughness and physicality matter.

675
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: You do have to be able to, you know, determine

676
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: who the human is. We cannot quantify everything in life

677
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: because when you're dealing with humans, not everything is quantified.

678
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: Double like first great of a shooter as Steph Curry is.

679
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: What makes Steph Curry truly great is he's like the

680
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: greatest teammate of all time. It's like Kevin Durant wants in, Yeah,

681
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: no problem, I'll pass you the ball. Like that's how

682
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: most people don't think like that. So, like what made

683
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady the greatest quarterback every Yeah, he's he's accurate,

684
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: but it was like his innate and just incredible drive,

685
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: his incredible discipline to eat like avocado ice cream. The

686
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: the thing that Drew Brees that Reggie Bush tweeted out

687
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago about Drew Brees in the

688
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: don't in the practice facility by himself just grinding for

689
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: like three minutes. I mean that he was in there

690
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: longer than that. But it's like you're dealing with people

691
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: like look at the number one data analysts in basketball,

692
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: Daryl Morey. He fundamentally believes that his way is correct,

693
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: shoot threes, go to the basket. Yet every freaking time

694
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: held myself from swearing there really badly because we know

695
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: some children listen, they lose in the playoffs because they

696
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: refuse to break them all. So sometimes I say, what

697
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: what I never understand is I I and I think

698
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: most people are like this. Most of my friends that

699
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: work in the league that I would say are more

700
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: scout first, the number guys they're willing to be like, yeah,

701
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Why can't data, you know, the analytical side,

702
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: ever admit you know what I was wrong? They never

703
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: do that because in their world. This is my biggest

704
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: issue with it, and I'm pro numbers. We all use

705
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: freaking numbers. This notion though, Oh, they're only going forward

706
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: on fourth down now because the analytics. Every single human

707
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: alive that's been watching football, well before I was even born,

708
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: has been screamed at the coach to go for and

709
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: fourth down. It's common freaking sense. I'm so tired of that.

710
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: But you're dealing with humans, and Daryl Morey is a

711
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: great example of He just refuses to go outside the

712
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: analytics and he loses every fucking time. I couldn't help

713
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: but cussing there because I think the Rockets are a joke.

714
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: But like Belichick, use analytics like you can use both.

715
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you're you're dealing

716
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Speaker 1: with people, so yeah, I think you use them both.

717
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Paul D. Podesta, who's the Mets guy that works for

718
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the Browns, went on record and said that Carson Wentz

719
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a top twenty player. He said that with

720
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: his own mouth, those words came out of his mouth.

721
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be a top twenty player. They felt good

722
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Speaker 1: about passing on him. He said that I mean, so

723
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: what were his numbers wrong? He'd never admitted. He'd be like, ah,

724
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: the variations, the variables, you know, blah blah blah blah blah,

725
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: just take the l bro. That's my biggest issue is

726
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: like everyone uses numbers, now, can you use more? Sure

727
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: if the numbers make sense. But like shooting threes and

728
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: basketball is this new trend? Yeah, I got no problem

729
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: shooting threes if Steph Curry and Claire taking him. But

730
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: if I want to shoot a mid range shot with

731
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard or Lebron James, I feel good about doing

732
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: it too. Like I I never understand how the analytical

733
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: movement they are so extreme and refused a budge. They're

734
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: never wrong. That's my biggest issue. There never a freaking wrong.

735
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll take els all the time. I thought Mario stunk,

736
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I thought Baker would be good. I

737
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: was wrong. You know, I don't know what to tell

738
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: you now. A big reason, for example, John Dorsey drafted

739
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was because he thought he had you know,

740
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: the bravado, the Brett far kind of you know what,

741
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, some some stuff. To him, it's just the moxie,

742
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: and you know, you can get wrong on players too.

743
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: You get wrong on people too, But at the end

744
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: of the day, it's the people in the business right

745
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: that determined at all. Uh okay found via I'm a

746
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: die hard Vikings fan. If we get bounced in the

747
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: first round, do you read up? Do you trade up

748
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: and try to get a quarterback early in the first

749
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: rounds Our roster is pretty set with young, good talent

750
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: all around beside the line, and Cousins only had one

751
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: year left on the deal. Well, here's the problem. If

752
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: you guys lose, your picks gonna be what you were

753
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: ten and six, so your pick will probably be like

754
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty two. Uh how do you trade up?

755
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna trade one of your second round picks

756
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: to move up ten spots to get Justin Herbert. I

757
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the realm and possibility. But

758
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins on your team next year. So I'm a

759
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: big believer in sun costs and moving on. But it's

760
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: a little more difficult when the salary caps two or

761
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: a million and you're paying the guy twenty seven million dollars.

762
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: So I think you just it sucks. You either got

763
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: to trade him this offseason. I don't know if he's

764
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: tradeable or just to roll with him one more season,

765
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: But at this point in time, it's it's kind of

766
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: it kind of is what it is. I would love

767
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: to hear your take on the Ross fumble in completion

768
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: during the O s U Clemson game. I saw lots

769
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: of tweets about the replay not being conclusive. Reps are

770
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: not allowing play to continue close fumbles knowing that challenges

771
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: can be issued and not wanting to rule the play

772
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: dead just in case. But if you're demanding conclusive, then

773
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: defenses would have a huge advantage given this officiating flaw.

774
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: Speed thoughts, I think it's pretty simple. You you let

775
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: the play go, you don't blow the whistle right away,

776
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: as they do in most college and the NFL, and

777
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: then you go to review. He clearly fumbled it. They

778
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: screwed up the call. I mean it was there's no

779
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: it's not there's no even argument. They they bumped, they

780
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: bungled the call. They were just wrong. Now did that

781
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: cost Ohio State the game? No, they still had chances

782
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: to win. Should they? You know, I don't know what

783
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: to say. It was just it was a bad call.

784
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Listen to your hand pod. You in habes opined that

785
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: the Niners made the right choice taking Samuel over Metcalf.

786
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: Could it be credibly argued that the Niners have potential

787
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: metcalf in Jalen heard, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts and

788
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: thanks for the too thoughtful kick ass podcast. Uh yeah,

789
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean I I always struggle with young guys. They

790
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: were injured their first year. I don't know anything, you know,

791
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Jalen heard the kid from Tennessee, former running back transferred

792
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: to a Baylor to think that he's gonna come next

793
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: year and be Metcalf in a perfect world. Yeah, but

794
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: this year he didn't play all season long because he

795
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: had a back, a broken back. So I I'm not

796
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: trying to be a pessimist. One thing I'm trying to

797
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: do in two thousand twenty is being optimist. But I'd

798
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: have a big fat red flag on that one, a

799
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: big fat red flag. Chiefs fan here with thorn her

800
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: Thornhill tearing his a c L yesterday. Is it possible

801
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: the chief signed Eric Barry to a short deal for

802
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl run? I'd say no, not that that

803
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: ship is sailed, but that's that's a sneaky, big loss man.

804
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: That kid had been playing really well right next to

805
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Honey Badger. Their defense had really been playing good. I

806
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: think you could argue that the Chiefs are a They're not.

807
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: You can't be a sleeper when you're the two seed,

808
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: but they are a super Bowl factor. And you can

809
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: get him a certain betting size for about plus four fifty.

810
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: It's pretty good value. You know, I'm a poor college

811
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: dude with a love for football. I've been listening to

812
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: your show for a while now. I'm a big Bears fan,

813
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: and like you, I believe in Naggy's ability to coach. However,

814
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: it's concerning that Club Dub was open after our win

815
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: against the Vikings second and third stringers and a disappointed

816
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: eight and eight season. Do you think Naggy was right

817
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: for opening Club Dub. It's hard for me laugh. Or

818
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: that should have been used to teach mediocrity should not

819
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: be celebrated. You know, there's two school thoughts. I would

820
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: say in the ninety nineties, the parcels of the world. Yeah,

821
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: there's no Club Dub never would have existed in two

822
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Speaker 1: thousand twenty. Part of being somewhat of a players coach

823
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: and having fun. And I do believe in celebrating all

824
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: victories in football, not like in life, you know, but

825
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: in football a victory is a big deal. You only

826
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: play once a week. It's it's it's like in school

827
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: when you get a A or B on a test,

828
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: like you're allowed to be added about it. You only

829
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: take so many tests football like, you don't get to

830
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: celebrate practice. You don't get to celebrate film study. It's

831
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: that you work all week to play in the game.

832
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: So it it's just kind of their thing. Uh. When

833
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: I when you're saying club dub, I just assume you

834
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: mean like when he kind of like us his hands

835
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: to like slam and they all go nuts. I don't

836
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: think it's that big a deal. I think the biggest

837
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: issue the Bears have right now is they cannot Mr.

838
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: Bissy can't be the starting quarterback next year. He's just

839
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: he can't be. I don't know how else to say it. Uh,

840
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: just heard your podcast on Cousins and how he gets

841
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: paid so much and not that good. What you're feeling

842
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: on Derek Carr in the future of the Raiders, Well,

843
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: I think there are two scenarios for Derek. One they

844
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: try to sign Philip Rivers or Tom Brady, and if

845
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: they get one of those two guys, Derek's done. If

846
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: they don't, they might draft a guy. And if they

847
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: trade or just draft a guy at twelve or nineteen,

848
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: let's say Justin Herbert or two. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: two was coming out, we'll find out next Monday. Then

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Speaker 1: Derek would just have to be a pro. Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: did it, and Alex had accomplished a lot more than

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. When Patrick Mahomes came in, and he acted

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Speaker 1: like a pro. He indebted himself to the Chiefs. He

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Speaker 1: was nice to Mahomes. Now, I don't think Derek would

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Speaker 1: be mean to the guy, but it would be a

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Speaker 1: little awkward because unlike Alex, who was kind of entrenched

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Speaker 1: as a starter. And I think that year, his last

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Speaker 1: year in Kansas City, had his best statistical year when

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Speaker 1: he played there and they went to the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: think they that was the year they lost the Max

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Speaker 1: and Mariotta. Think of the irony there. Mariota has now

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Speaker 1: been benched in the in the first round when they

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Speaker 1: were like the three verse the six. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Derek unless they get a veteran. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I throw Cam Newton in there. We'll see who they

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Speaker 1: head coaches and whether they keep Cam or not. But

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Speaker 1: what they do Derek, Derek will survive even if they

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Speaker 1: draft a guy that That would be my take. Could

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Speaker 1: the Niner secondary be their downfall in the playoffs? Whatever

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Speaker 1: corner plays opposite Sherm has been punished by accurate quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: down the stretch, Witherspoon has been bad stretch. Mosley makes

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Speaker 1: rookie mistakes. Just a casual fan question, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I I think you could argue beside, like most teams,

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Speaker 1: their secondary is gonna be their downfall. Think of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Most teams don't have two good corners. Most good teams

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Speaker 1: have one good corner. Hell, some teams just have one

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Speaker 1: good defensive back. So the Fortys have Sherman, Kwant Williams

878
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Speaker 1: actually is a really good nickel corner, Quaski Tarts coming back,

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Speaker 1: he's a good safety. Jimmy Ward like, they have more

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Speaker 1: than enough good dbs. If if you have one quote

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Speaker 1: unquote weakness and it's one corner, you're ahead of the game,

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Speaker 1: you know, So, I don't think is that gonna be

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Speaker 1: their downfall? I think the downfalls, they just get beat.

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Speaker 1: You know, every team has a weakness. The Saints are

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Speaker 1: missing multiple defensive lineman for injuries. The Packers have one

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Speaker 1: good wide receiver. The Ravens do they have good enough

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Speaker 1: wide receivers? You know to win it? The Chiefs are

888
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: their linebackers good enough? The Patriots can they score enough points?

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Speaker 1: You know? The Texans? Do they have anyone else beside Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: Watson and Watt? So it's just this isn't Madden. There's

891
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Speaker 1: no such thing as a perfect team. It just kind

892
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Speaker 1: of is what it is. Great content is always my

893
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Speaker 1: twin and I enjoy listen to the pod and following

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Speaker 1: your work. Suggesting for you, Ask kicker is one of

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Speaker 1: your iconic phrases. Every time you say that the podcast,

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Speaker 1: it resonates. If you had to name an ass kicker

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Speaker 1: of the season, who would it be? Ps? What about

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Speaker 1: an ass kicker of the week segment for next year's pod?

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Speaker 1: Not a terrible idea. I might have to write this down,

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Speaker 1: ask kicker of the week. If I had to do

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Speaker 1: an ass kicker of the year, Well, on offensive b lamar,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he kicked everyone's ass on defense. Trying to

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Speaker 1: think of the top defensive players, t J. Watt, Minca,

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger. I'm gonna be biased on this one because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't this big fan and this guy kicks serious

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Speaker 1: ass all season long. So my ass kicker of the

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Speaker 1: Year will go to a rookie, and that would be

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, because one, I didn't want them to draft him,

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Speaker 1: and too, I mean, the guy has been He's basically

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Speaker 1: the white Khalil Mack. He gets double teamed every game

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Speaker 1: and he's just tossing dudes left and right. And I

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Speaker 1: know he came right off the couch, but in that

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Speaker 1: game against Seattle, he tossed the tight end and stuffed

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. This guy is just incredible. He is really good.

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Speaker 1: So my ass kicker of the Year on offense will

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Speaker 1: go to Lamar. Ass kicker of the year on d

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Speaker 1: would go to Bosa. What do you think about Captain

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Speaker 1: Kirk needs to do to minimally to sign another contract

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Speaker 1: with the Vikes after two thousand twenty well you mean

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one. I would say he would need

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Speaker 1: to win a couple of playoff games, so maybe a

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Speaker 1: big upset of the Saints, maybe win a second round game,

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Speaker 1: maybe get him the championship game next year, maybe win

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Speaker 1: a couple of playoff games. He's got to win some

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Speaker 1: playoff games, so you either just he's gotta win playoff games.

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Speaker 1: No one cares what you do in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: and let's call spade a spade. His regular season this year,

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Speaker 1: in big moments wasn't great either, So I would say

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Speaker 1: right now, slim chance that he's the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: Vikings after two I guess yes, starting in two one,

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Speaker 1: So next year he'll be there one more year. The contract,

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Speaker 1: you know, runs next season, and that would be it.

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Speaker 1: I listened to Collins take about the decline of the

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Speaker 1: Pats and how it's gradual. Do you think we are

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Speaker 1: seeing the same thing with Bama, a gradual decline with

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Speaker 1: the loss of assistance and rise of another program like

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Speaker 1: l s U in the SEC? I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if two hadn't gotten hurt, they beat Auburn and they're

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and who's who's say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they probably they would play out l s U in

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Speaker 1: that game. L s U probably still beats them. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think BAM is still pretty good

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Speaker 1: as long as they're getting top five recruiting classes. Nick

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Speaker 1: sabans so the head coach. I I just to me,

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Speaker 1: the Patriot thing is dramatically different because saban is one

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Speaker 1: with of his five national championships, I think he never

947
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Speaker 1: had the same quarterback twice. For Belichick, there's been one constant.

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Speaker 1: It's Brady. And you could say in the second iteration

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Speaker 1: of the you know, the last seven eight years, it's

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Speaker 1: been a group of guys, mccordy, Edelman, gronk Well, gronks gone,

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Speaker 1: Edelman's hurt, mccordy's just getting older. Brady's forty two. I

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Speaker 1: would say it's different. I would I would not consider

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Speaker 1: the two the same at all. Hi John loved the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy g r Ryan Tanney Hill for Comeback Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year Greetings from Argentina. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: the other day. I don't know if Jimmy Garoppolo can

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Speaker 1: be the comeback player of the Year when he had

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Speaker 1: like six career starts heading into this season. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can be the comeback player of

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Speaker 1: the year. He had never been a full time starter.

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Speaker 1: He started two games in in New England and he

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Speaker 1: had started five in the season San Francisco, So that's

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Speaker 1: seven and then three he tarned ten career games. I

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Speaker 1: would give it to Ryan Tannehill, not that like Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has been better than Ryan Tannehill start to finish.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been the full time starting quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill accomplished coming off the bench, being traded, former

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Speaker 1: first round pick, battle a bunch of injuries. I think

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Speaker 1: it's much more remarkable. Ryan Tannehill did like most people thought,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo was gonna come back and just be good.

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Speaker 1: Like we thought Jimmy was good even though he hadn't

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Speaker 1: played that much, and then he was just good. Now

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Speaker 1: he's probably been better than even some of us thought.

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Speaker 1: But Ryan Tannehill, most of us thought he sucked, like

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Speaker 1: he had some moments, that he was always hurt, that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't good. Then he got traded that he was

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Speaker 1: the backup, and then he came in from Mariota, a

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Speaker 1: team that was not going to go to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and lead the freaking team to the playoffs. So I

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Speaker 1: would go Marcus, I would excuse me. I would go

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill as a comeback Player of the Year, mainly

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Speaker 1: because I don't think I just don't think Jimmy qualifies

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's a description somewhere where

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Speaker 1: you can read the qualifiers, but he would not get

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Speaker 1: my vote. Appreciate everyone listening Three and Out podcast. Tell

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Speaker 1: all your friends and thanks for the middle coff mail

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Speaker 1: back questions. Enjoy the weekend, and uh enjoy some playoff football.

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Speaker 1: Godspeed and happy New Year.