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Speaker 1: He did that move on you.

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Speaker 2: Dog wasn't the same, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him freeze building. The whole building was like

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Speaker 1: you heard the whole building going.

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Speaker 2: Again. The celebrities is different then, Bro, you didn't have access.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see it, like you only read in newspapers

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Speaker 2: or like oh ship if you were and it wasn't

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Speaker 3: That watched White Chocolate on a local you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, broadcast, Like if you live in Sacramento, you

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Speaker 3: get to watch him every single game.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the most three.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was like if you knew the numbers, but.

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Speaker 3: As a kid, you just watching inside stuff, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. NBA on NBC it is.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the players of the two thousands were

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Speaker 4: way more exciting to watch than now.

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Speaker 2: I think there's the celebrity is bigger because again, you

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Speaker 2: didn't get replaced. You can't stop rewinding. There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: bunch of highlights, There wasn't much social media clips. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we have more aura. You had to be there to

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Speaker 2: see it. If you didn't see it, yeah, like you say,

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Speaker 2: way more aura, bro, Like if he wasn't there, saying

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Speaker 2: that you missed all you and you just heard about it,

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Speaker 2: oh ship and everybody's legendary, like just their their narrative. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: called like eighty like this nigga right here we talked

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Speaker 2: about Sebastian. There's never been another motherfucker coming out of

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Speaker 2: looked it was like twenty thirty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Right bro, when these dudes was rookies. I remember following

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Speaker 3: it Vias, Slam Magazine, Inside Stuff, NBA on NBC, and

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if we had cable that year,

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Speaker 3: so I don't even know if I was watching it

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Speaker 3: on T n T for real. So what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: is like I was following these guys because it was him, Vincent,

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Speaker 3: Jason Williams were rookies, like everybody like was all the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah bro, so I'm following these guys, but like, how

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Speaker 3: many Boston games did I watch that year? Was tough

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Speaker 3: to see it, bro, Like I didn't get to see

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Speaker 3: this these dudes play for real, right, I'm just following

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Speaker 3: it via the media, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: like in the game, I didn't see the game. I

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Speaker 3: just saw the highlight, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 3: didn't watch the whole game. Was his shots like highlights.

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Speaker 3: You thought that was his whole game, his whole ship.

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Speaker 3: You think he's talking on niggas whole game. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's just so different, bro, with

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Speaker 3: like motherfuckers could just go on the fucking used to

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Speaker 3: sports streams and just watch a game. Watch anybody play

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Speaker 3: whenever you want.

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Speaker 2: I feel like like people will.

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Speaker 3: The old hands.

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Speaker 2: It's still don't step You're watch watch, You're gonna watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you might watch, you might watch your kids.

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Speaker 1: I mean the average just average fan and watching.

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Speaker 3: Not hyped on him, but like a game, bro, I

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Speaker 3: really do think Luca people might ask Lucas talking about playing,

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Speaker 3: let me see what doing.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me see what McGrady might drop.

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Speaker 2: And man's like this is all night.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, hold on, let me see down there,

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Speaker 1: let me do my.

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Speaker 3: League past pop up. If Warriors playing Nuggets playing Minnesota

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Speaker 3: is playing, I'm clicking on it. Everybody else depends on

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Speaker 3: the match, certain guys. Hold on, Celebrity was different. You

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Speaker 3: guys are just way more famous celebrities, Like, buy a

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Speaker 3: million more people watched your games, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like way more people watch the games.

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Speaker 1: Y'all mean. Let me see what y'all mean. God damn was.

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Speaker 2: Bro God Shack's movies weren't even great, but we used

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Speaker 2: to watch.

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Speaker 5: Some albums Gas Shack, Food, Blue Ship, like.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's just mores more Aura. It was

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Speaker 4: just like I had to tune in. When I'm at home,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, sitting there playing Dominoes. Kobe has sixty

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Speaker 4: three at the end of the third Like what.

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't think I was like that. I think

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Speaker 2: I was at that game. God damn sixty three quarters

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Speaker 2: of ship there, Like the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Also, guys act different they now it's not cool to

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Speaker 2: act like a celebrity no more. Come on, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Even still, you're not like the games.

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Speaker 2: You're not watching k like that no more.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even like even.

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Speaker 2: Was fun to watch even now with Steph killing you

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Speaker 2: start watching because they asked their team was good though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But so like, yeah, but because he was in high

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Speaker 1: D Wade, oh Ship, let me see what way doing tonight?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Flash was Flash had come on? Flash sixty down? Middle

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Speaker 4: Rich God, but who got who's out here dunking like

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Speaker 4: that right now?

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Speaker 1: Outside of a man?

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Speaker 4: We had about two motherfuckers doing that.

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Speaker 3: Dunk like like.

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Speaker 1: Jaylor Brown, like you got Jaylen Brown.

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Speaker 4: Man, we have Vince McGrady even like God damn, we

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Speaker 2: But again he said, they carried him like it's not

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Speaker 2: cool to carry yourself like a celebrity. It's cool now

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Speaker 2: to be a humble ro celebrity. Back then you were

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Speaker 2: a bigger celebrity, and you act like celebrity like you

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Speaker 3: Much more like Hollywood, you know what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 3: like so much more people was watching the n B

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Speaker 3: a bro Like that's what it boils down to, Like

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Speaker 3: there was less of it everywhere, and you know, like

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Speaker 3: I said, like a motherfucker could literally just pull up

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Speaker 3: an a legal stream. I wish I could do that

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Speaker 3: ship when I would have been watching every single Paul Pierce,

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Speaker 3: Jason Williams Lakers game, fucking Stephen KG like I would

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Speaker 1: Who could pass like j K in the NBA today

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Speaker 1: could pass like ja.

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Speaker 2: Closest Hallie not doing it fast.

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Speaker 3: Like Baron Davis. Baron Davis. People can't pass like him.

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Speaker 3: You didn't watch damn Bro.

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Speaker 2: He was nice, but he was nice.

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Speaker 3: Bro, he's like since Baron Davises like.

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Speaker 1: Before we started, because they didn't watch Baron Davis watch be.

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Speaker 2: Be was nasty, but he was like he was nasty, Bro,

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Speaker 2: He's explosive. He was explosive though he's more explosive. Was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Was like a bad pass the.

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Speaker 1: Closest, like one of the top five passion.

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Speaker 2: He had a couple of clops.

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Speaker 3: Not said he's a bad passer, but like, why we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, domes.

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Speaker 3: All you used to Blake Griffin makes dying master this

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Speaker 3: late day late days.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: Like, bro, why are we acting like he was.

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Speaker 2: Like Miller was like one of those like Tyrese Halibur

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Speaker 2: is the closest one to those guys. Yeah, Hallie, but

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Speaker 2: he's not j K. He's not Rondo, Rondo especial special brands.

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Speaker 3: Look at.

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Speaker 2: Yo Yo, that was.

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Speaker 1: Yo nasty dimes dog.

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Speaker 2: He's like that was that was nasty. Like he's like

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Speaker 2: the first again, he's like the first, the first of

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Speaker 2: the con to do it. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: the first time I'm doing some ABC camp says where

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Speaker 2: that pass come from? Bro? Like they was the first

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Speaker 3: No Luca got.

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Speaker 1: Does you got Baron Davis Dimes?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, like Baron Davis?

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Speaker 2: He got dons with not Yeah, it's definitely.

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Speaker 3: It's the young dominic no season donant people with no

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Speaker 1: Here we got how many lives this guys.

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Speaker 2: With all the other dudes that Rondo JK, do some ship, bro,

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Speaker 2: he throw white chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Even Ricky Rubio, have.

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Speaker 2: Some ship, bro.

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Speaker 3: This guy's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You have some ship.

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Speaker 3: sign out. As always, I got my homies with me,

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Speaker 3: Danny Green, Paul pierceon. You gotta get right into the

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Speaker 3: shot because energy is because the truth. He got dinner, Resie.

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Speaker 3: He's calling he's calling Ricky Rubio, one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: He was getting his show knowing to put some gas.

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Speaker 3: This is a nicetiness going on in the studio today.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's that's double unletted.

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Speaker 3: So let's get right into the Warriors, where the hits

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Speaker 3: just keep on coming for these guys.

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Speaker 3: Following Jimmy Butler's injury, we saw Jonathan kaminga back in

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Speaker 3: the rotation for the Warriors. His first game back, he

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Speaker 3: minutes in a thirty point blowout. I might add his

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Speaker 3: second game back, he had ten points in nine minutes.

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Speaker 2: And then unfortunately, Bro, he gets to it went, oh god,

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Speaker 2: he don't talking about it. We like, he don't be hooping.

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Speaker 3: Yah, yeah, don't.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately he injured his leg. It's probably not gonna spend

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Speaker 3: some time out. Steph Curry dropped thirty eight. They lost

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Speaker 3: to the mass by eight.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: It feels like this is the death knell of the

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Speaker 3: war you season. Damn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, I don't know, Bro, I don't know where

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Speaker 2: they go from here. Bro. Honestly, you know it's it said,

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Speaker 2: it's a different type of scenario. I was talking about

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Speaker 2: it with Harrison about like with Johann, it's like it's

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Speaker 2: he's won four championship. You can't just let Steph go

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Speaker 2: with him, or at least let him retire in a

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Speaker 2: good light. You know what I'm saying. So hopefully kming

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Speaker 2: is not out for long, but yeah, this is you

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Speaker 2: said it could be a Karma situation. The windows closed,

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Speaker 2: but this said, this could be a karmon situation of

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Speaker 2: y'all want to shop on Kamingo. Like now he's not available.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long it's gonna be, but he

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Speaker 2: has a reason to sit out now when you need him.

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Speaker 4: No, listen, we're at the stage right now to where

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Speaker 4: if I'm the GM, if I'm done leading or ownership,

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Speaker 4: it's time to sit down with Steph, Curry and Draymond.

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Speaker 4: Let's have a conversation. Let's go into the room and

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Speaker 4: ask them what do y'all want to do? Because if

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Speaker 4: y'all feel like y'all can win somewhere else, or do

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Speaker 4: you want to ride out the ship and let them

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Speaker 4: make that decision. They are legends for the Warriors, but

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Speaker 4: you know they have pride, they want to win, and

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Speaker 4: if they don't see light at the end of the tunnel,

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Speaker 4: where can that light reopen for them? Like Draymond, Like

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Speaker 4: But if they say, hey, we want to ride it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of his the Warrior season over, I

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Speaker 3: way worse than what you already are. Even this MAVs game,

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Speaker 3: I was watching it, It's like there's.

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Speaker 2: Only but so much Steph Curry can do. It's a

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Speaker 3: On his own exactly. And you know, I realized you're

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Speaker 3: they lost that game by thirty dot matter. That wasn't

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Speaker 2: That happens. Though, I'm just saving guys. Steph Curry can

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Speaker 2: get thirty. They could still lose by thirty. It happens.

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Speaker 2: He's still doing his part. Sure they getting from other people. Sure,

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Speaker 2: if you say so, I'm gonna say so. I hope

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Speaker 3: Thirty point loss. A lot of people can do that. Danny, Like,

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Speaker 3: give you have to be contributed. None of those guys

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Speaker 2: None of those guys do it. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's not a lot of people that can do it.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying Jonathan kaminga would have been some twenty

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Speaker 2: Single he's been a twenty point score before.

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Speaker 3: What's before besides three and four games at a time. No,

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Speaker 3: he's never shown his He's like, yo, I'm a twenty

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Speaker 2: In his what's the name is? When he played on

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Speaker 2: the stretches of games he's been, He's averaged twenty at stretches.

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Speaker 3: He had a nice and stretch last year in the

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Speaker 1: Do you give kaminga thirty minutes a game, he'll average twenty?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Bro, what are we talking about is no?

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Speaker 1: Look at this season?

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Speaker 2: It's not yes, like you should shooting thirty times a game.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four he averaged twenty six minutes and

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Speaker 4: He can't get the dub sure, Like in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Points in twenty four minutes. God, you give him thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: He should look at his numbers like he's solid forty five,

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Speaker 3: I promise you, Johnathan kaming is not lacking for opportunities.

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Speaker 3: The opportunities he got, he showed that he doesn't help

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Speaker 3: dying to play Moody, nobody's dying to play TuS Conne Anderson,

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Speaker 3: bro Like, these are the guys that played over you.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's dying to play.

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Speaker 2: I would like to think if there was another coach,

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Speaker 3: Would be winning. Probably.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I can't wait for this kid to get

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Speaker 2: to another team. So you're saying he's the reason why

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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying he wasn't helping them win. That's why

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Speaker 3: he didn't play.

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Speaker 2: You're shooting forty five percent from the field and averaging

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Speaker 3: There's gotta be a context of what you're doing. Danny,

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Speaker 3: like you can't just look at box scores and be like,

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Speaker 2: Why I'm not saying the numbers everything, but they tell enough.

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Speaker 3: And also, like the people that are in house, I'm

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Speaker 3: about what John D. Kaminga could do. Did Steve Kurbs

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Speaker 3: wan four championships with the team like this idea that

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Speaker 3: he's got so much to give and the coaches as

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Speaker 3: a personal vendetta gets him. The coach don't want to win.

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Speaker 2: It's the fitth system. It's not about the player. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't think he fits. The system has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the players production. You producing in a way. We

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Speaker 2: don't like the way you're producing. We don't think that

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Speaker 2: you're buying into not producing. You're playing for yourself. Bro,

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Speaker 2: forty five fifty two, fifty three points, fifteen points, that's producing.

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Speaker 2: I never had that ever in my career.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Danny, but why did you? Why were your minutes

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Speaker 3: not jerked around on teams that went to championships I played?

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Speaker 2: The team is mediocre.

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Speaker 3: This is a mediocre team. He can't get minutes for

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Speaker 3: you're getting minutes or championship teams not scoring sixteen. Why

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Speaker 3: because you help real teams win, like this guy's not.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure if he went to Charlotte or if he

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Speaker 2: Right now, he could play win some games, more games

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time believing that. I think john

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Speaker 3: I think Johnson kaminga. If he went to a shitty team,

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Speaker 3: he went to any team that actually has aspirations of

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Speaker 3: winning big in the NBA, he would not play because

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't contribute. And I don't want to, Like, I

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Speaker 3: hate taking up a management coach. I don't give a

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Speaker 3: fuck about these people. Like they're not players, they're not

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Speaker 3: the reason why we watched the games. But like this

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Speaker 3: idea keep saying, like, oh, cominga got joked around another

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Speaker 3: thing again off season. You could have took your one

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Speaker 3: year qualifying offer. Bet on yourself. I'm going to unrestrict

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Speaker 3: the free agency. Fuck these people, they don't respect me

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Speaker 3: in my game. I'm gonna put them in a bond

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Speaker 3: and walk away for nothing. Instead, he was like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the team friendly deal. And now it's

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Speaker 3: like yo, they're jerking me around. I just can't the

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Speaker 2: Again, he's only played for one team. We'll see he

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Speaker 2: will be with another team at some point in his career.

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Speaker 2: I better believe that. Then we'll see what kind of

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Speaker 3: I love to see it. I would love to be

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Speaker 3: proven wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's like saying LaMelo doesn't produce because Charlotte Horner suck.

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Speaker 2: Cause numbers are but those numbers help.

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Speaker 3: Don't compare LaMelo, who's driving the team's offense. He's the

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Speaker 3: focal point if he has the ball all day, So

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Speaker 3: if the team is scoring, it's because of the guy

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Speaker 3: that's doing everything. That's like when you give Comminga the ball,

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Speaker 3: it's like, all right, I'm gonna try to score one

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Speaker 3: on one and I don't do nothing else ever on offense.

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Speaker 3: So when I I'm not scoring, I'm not helping.

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Speaker 2: I got to give you a better example than LaMelo.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that do what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: he does that don't fucking win games, is what I'm saying. Bro,

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Speaker 2: You know the point I'm saying, and is not the

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Speaker 3: Like he is.

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Speaker 2: But do I have to give you another analogy if

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Speaker 2: you don't understand that you can produce and still fucking lose.

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Speaker 3: Bro, not Bro, And I said all the time, I'm

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Speaker 3: saying people put big numbers up in losing context all

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about like Zion?

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Speaker 3: You think you think.

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Speaker 2: Zion is like not producing, it's not helping towards winning

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: Not really, you can't put can help.

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Speaker 2: It's about that situation.

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Speaker 3: If he's doing exactly what he does in New Orleans,

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Speaker 3: maybe if he changed the way he played, like same

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Speaker 3: with Kaminger, if he changed, if he goes somewhere and

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Speaker 3: he plays differently, meaning like if you tell me he's

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Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere and the team's gonna be like, yo,

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Speaker 3: Johnathan committee his.

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Speaker 2: Name help the team? Do you think George, Oh yeah, George,

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Speaker 2: hell yeah, yo buckets bro. These guys are young guys

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Speaker 2: that get buckets right yeah.

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Speaker 3: And these guys actually manipulate defenses, re defenses, make smart

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Speaker 3: plays out of defense, like recognize the defensive coverages. That's

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Speaker 3: not Johnathan Kaminga. He's a one track minded player and

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Speaker 3: his one track. Ain't that impressive? You need to be multiple,

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Speaker 3: but he can't ben scoring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does more than just scoring.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well let me ask you this did Jamal Crawford

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Speaker 4: and lou Will not impact women. Jamal Crawford and they

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Speaker 4: came back to they come out the bitch and got buckets.

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Speaker 3: Jamal Will. Lou Will, who Will fucking lived at the

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Speaker 3: free throw line was incredible pick and roll ball handler

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Speaker 3: like lou Will. Like literally, you could give him the ball.

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Speaker 3: He run your offense, John Thinkminga, don't run by the offense.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Jamal Crawford Like what the

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Speaker 3: these guys actually? Like, these these dudes actually knew understood

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Speaker 3: basketball in terms of basketball, Like.

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Speaker 1: You is a low IQ player that can get him?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's he's very athletic. He fixed the physical profile

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Speaker 3: of a guy who should be help his win. But

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Speaker 3: when he plays, he doesn't. Like that's just what it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I understand what people's like. He's athletic, he's fast,

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Speaker 3: he's got the side.

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Speaker 1: You got to develop his talent.

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Speaker 3: So still, I'm not saying it's over for him.

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Speaker 1: You got to develop.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying he hasn't shown it. He's never shown it.

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Speaker 2: I think production for me, I think he can help

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Speaker 2: the team, like he can win some games. Let's while

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Speaker 2: you're standing again, you would say Russ rust doesn't.

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Speaker 7: Play again, m VP winner, twelve time All Stars Comparing that,

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Speaker 7: I'm just asking Johnathan's.

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Speaker 2: Saying, like a guy that makes like cerebral play like So.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, Bro Westbrook, unquestionable production in terms of like

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Speaker 3: the year kd left, that team won forty eight games

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Speaker 3: while he's dominating possession game after game. You really think

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Speaker 3: a team's gonna go out like Kaminga is gonna win

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Speaker 3: MVPs and go to All Star Games if a team

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Speaker 3: just gives him the ball and gets out the way.

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Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying, you're saying because he has

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Speaker 2: a low IQ, he can't be a productive player.

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Speaker 3: I just say he can't. I said he has never

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Speaker 3: see him show it. I'm not saying he's incapable of

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Speaker 3: ever out been a team, but doing what he's done

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Speaker 3: so far in his career is not what helps teams win,

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Speaker 3: and that's why he hasn't played.

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Speaker 2: I only brought up Russ because Rush to me, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying he's a low IQ player, but he plays

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00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: his way. He's not like he's playing a system. There's

440
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that play their own system. I'm

441
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: saying John kaminga if he was put in a different

442
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: situation where he could play that free. Just let him loose,

443
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: let him loose, let him do what he does. Just

444
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: be an athlete like Russ could just be an athlete.

445
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he'll be an MVP, but he will

446
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: be a productive.

447
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: We can all agree. He's not gonna's not win MVP.

448
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: Say he's not gonna be Russ damn, but he can

449
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: be a productive player to help the team one game.

450
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 2: It's not bro.

451
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 6: Bro.

452
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: He kept saying he don't be hooping like it seems.

453
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, he'd be hooping. I never seen him

454
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: like box score ship is just like that means something.

455
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: People just look at the ship for no reason.

456
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: Bro. I'm just saying, man, people get paid for stuff

457
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: that isn't like the Boxer. I don't I don't disagree

458
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: with you, but you also get paid because you get

459
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: paid because you help people win. You know, get paid

460
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: because you can you know you could be like a

461
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: Trey Young and you're like, that team is in a

462
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: position right now where you have to be their best player,

463
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: and you know we're not in a position to win,

464
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: but like what you do is very invaluable to position

465
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: we're at right now, and you get paid, Like, but

466
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: that's an obvious thing that you're giving somebody.

467
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, we're just gonna agree to

468
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: this one.

469
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I just like to see production. So when I go

470
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: to that table with my agent and was like, look

471
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: look at this.

472
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty five twenty twenty six minutes, fifteen points, that

473
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: equal something twenty three million.

474
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: One day.

475
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead,

476
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I want to say on the Warriors.

477
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: It just popped in my head that I was looking

478
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: at something that said that Draymond not a dirty player.

479
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: Y'all see that? Did y'all see that?

480
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: Somebody said that, No, Draymond saying on this podcast he's

481
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: not to ask anybody to leave.

482
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: Tonight. He elbow. I kicked out the guy, bro see that?

483
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: No?

484
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: No, that was that was literally everything all that came

485
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: out today. Did you did you see that?

486
00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh?

487
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: That and didn't get kicked up the day the game the.

488
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: Next day, asked anybody in the I mean you might

489
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: say that about yourself with the ticket further and say

490
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: ask anybody like I think I can ask Steven Adams.

491
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: That's what he said, you guys, asked anybody in the league.

492
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: Look, look, look, look.

493
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: Look at this. You drive you on some bullshit?

494
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: Tell he.

495
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Got a whole compilation. That's wold, ain't it? That's super dirty.

496
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: The punch, the NURKDS elbow.

497
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: Elbow chest did he step on? That's the bonus chest

498
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: that he stepped on.

499
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: Someone has grabbed him, So I'll give little grace on

500
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: that one. But the punch, the NRKTS, the spinning punch.

501
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: The spinning.

502
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: And he jumped on his.

503
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, what the fuck crazy? The spinning punches wild, bro,

504
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: this is crazy.

505
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: That ain't dirty.

506
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy man anyway.

507
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's over Golden State right now. Yeah, they

508
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: were dumb.

509
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: More teams looking like they falling off of their pace.

510
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 7: Man.

511
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: The Knicks and the Rockets recently haven't been looking like themselves.

512
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: They had some very hot starts of this season, but

513
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: have cooled down a bit. They're both in the top

514
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: ten and their conferences still and the Knicks just beat

515
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: the Sad sack Nets, but have lost nine of the

516
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: last is actually twelve games, so they're three and nine

517
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: in their last twelve. What have you guys seen from

518
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: the Knicks since they had that sort of peak like

519
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: winning the Cup and directly right after they won a

520
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 3: few games after that, and it's kind of just been

521
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: a low.

522
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: It was expected for me anyway, Like I know, it's

523
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: just a trend. Most teams that go to the Cup

524
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: final always kind of take a dive. Even San Antonio

525
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: took a dive, like they lost to some teams. They

526
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: had injuries. Josh Hart was out for a little bit,

527
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: even Jalen Brunson's out for a couple of games. There

528
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: was the one concerning game on MLK Day. Lose the

529
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: Dallas at home, so no Anthony Davis, Dallas MAVs, just

530
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg and not only you lose, lose by thirty

531
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: and they're booing you and I'm saying in the garden.

532
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: So you know, players only meeting raise some concerns. You

533
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: get a big win, not big enough to like for

534
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: people to like take it serious. So we have to

535
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: see where they go from here. But honestly, again, we

536
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: all talked about it, like this frustrations that builds with

537
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: Cat sometimes in the offense, he's career lows and two

538
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: just carillos and post ups. You know, I just think

539
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: for me, it's like they know that they're clear favorites

540
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: and they just I want to say, they get bored

541
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: with the process. But they're just going out there like

542
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: we cool, we can turn on when every want to.

543
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: You shouldn't. You shouldn't. That's maturity. But they're showing immaturity

544
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: of just being like we're the best in ease, like

545
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna show up like you gotta start playing like

546
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: you can't just like think we're gonna be the best.

547
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: They look like they don't like each other. Let me

548
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: tell you something.

549
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 4: Me and Kjus had a great conversation the other day

550
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: because if we saw the Knicks, they had the team

551
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: meeting right, and so we was like, damn, people like

552
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: a regular fan and people ain't never been in a

553
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: team meeting. They don't know what's being said in the

554
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: team They be really thinking like, oh, it's about basketball,

555
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: Like you can have a whole team meeting, like when

556
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: you call a players only meeting, and this is what

557
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: it means it's gonna be the players.

558
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna have no damn.

559
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: Coaches, no, no nobody else with the players, and ship

560
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: might come out in the player there's meeting that might

561
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: not even pertain the basket.

562
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: Like that's what people don't know. You might be talking

563
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: about the mother fucking partying all night. You need to

564
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: get there and get some shots up.

565
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: You out here fucking with holes and all of this

566
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: shit like like it like yo, hey, this is a

567
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: time to air everything out. Like the reason you ain't

568
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: playing the way you play is because of this. And

569
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: it might not be something to pertain the basketball.

570
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: Might be small internal beefs with like females or something.

571
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be some like he man, this might

572
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: be a girl issue. It might be a family issue,

573
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: like where your mind that like with the average fan.

574
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: Don't know when you hear this in the media, when

575
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 4: you talk about as a players only meeting, it might

576
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: not always be just basketball. You A, I didn't have

577
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: a players meeting, man had none to do a basket.

578
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. It was just about like the old

579
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: heads wasn't kicking it with the young boys. And that's

580
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: what's calling the disconnect on the court, and that's why

581
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: we're not winning. You know what I'm saying, It could

582
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: be a whole bunch of stuff.

583
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: I only have a few, not many, and what players

584
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: only means First, yeah, we have one that the only

585
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: one that leaked out because mostly when when it happens

586
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: in San Antonio, nothing gets out very good. The one

587
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: that got leaked out, which again wasn't that crazy like

588
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: players with the Qaui thing. So it was like we

589
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: came to him. It was like maybe two or three

590
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: weeks before playoffs. You know, he had been sitting out

591
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: for a while. We're trying to get up, so we're like, yo,

592
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, we got a couple of weeks left, Like

593
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: how you feeling where you at? You know what I'm saying, like,

594
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: and uh, you know he sat there and was like

595
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: yeah right now. Everything like it was just you know, dry,

596
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, basic blend and just like is.

597
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: This the way they they said, people were saying Tony

598
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: Parker kind of well, Tony said something somebody they blamed

599
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: one of the vets of being like way too like overbearing,

600
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: they said, the meeting that was hounding Kawhi.

601
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't the case at all. It was a

602
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: simple conversation, so he said what he said and at

603
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: the end, like we didn't really get many answers. So

604
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, so does that mean like you're ninety percent there?

605
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: And he was just like, nah, I can't like taking

606
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: a day day by day, you know that type of thing.

607
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: So we're like, all right, you know me, I'm like,

608
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 2: I guess we got a hoop, you know right, everybody

609
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, what the fuck? We didn't gett knowing it, Like,

610
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: it don't seem like he's here mentally.

611
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: So you think some people were frustrated by the album.

612
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure was the reason why I think it snowballs.

613
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: Start of it was he came back. It was like

614
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: early December. He played like nine games or so. He

615
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: didn't have his lift, he didn't look well, his knee,

616
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't look well. And the next you know, he

617
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: was going to get checked out again. Pop says something

618
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: to media like, oh, you got to talk to Kuhi

619
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: in his camp, and I don't think they took that.

620
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: They know what I'm saying. You know, Uncle Dennis wasn't

621
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: happy with it, Like I don't think they were cool,

622
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: Like mind you is emerging superstar like, yeah, they don't

623
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: treat superstars like superstars, and san Antonio, I don't care to, like,

624
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: we're not gonna fucking like and fucking baby you and

625
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: show up to listen. You take care of what you

626
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: gotta take. Everybody here, No one man is bigger than

627
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: the team, so they're not gonna treat him that way,

628
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: and you know, rightfully, so he felt he should be

629
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: treated a different way. So that happened. He starts, he's

630
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: out for a while, he's hooping, he's like working out

631
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: and ship and then in the media, Tony had tot

632
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: he had tort some ship in his thigh the last

633
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: season he had like a something like a thigh strain

634
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: or something pop whatever the old people have. He has

635
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: something like that, something in his in his a quad.

636
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: So Tony in the media goes, yeah, I don't know

637
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: what's going on with Kauhi, Like, you know, I had

638
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: an injury. Mom was ten times worse. I'm bad. Yes,

639
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: he's just like, you know, my mom is a little worse,

640
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: but you know mine's back. So we don't. But and

641
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: a hit again, it might be a language very thing,

642
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: and his defense is like, I don't we don't know

643
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: what's wrong with it. It's something obvious because he should

644
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: be healthy because I've gone through something, and like it

645
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: was like a real injury, like we don't know what's

646
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: wrong with his knee, but they took it as you know,

647
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: Tony's shipping on Kawi like yeah, you know he's he's

648
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: duck and smoke. Well, he's not caring to play.

649
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not doing everything that he can to be

650
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: out there.

651
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: So that snowballing to more of like more tension of

652
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: nah than he like Tony ain't. We don't fuck with Tony,

653
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: we don't care to play with him, like that type

654
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: of thing. And there was like rumblings about it. We

655
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: didn't hear it from him directly, but there's RUMs like

656
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: he wasn't fucking with Tony, wasn't playing with them, and

657
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 2: then you know the whole pop thing like and then

658
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: other stuff behind the scenes like oh, we're not and

659
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: there was like talks I we won't see Kawhi Leonard

660
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: and you know san Antonio spurs Jersey again type of thing.

661
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: Like but I like that you're bringing that up because

662
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: both of y'all are talking about two things that matter.

663
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: One that the aeronet, the grievances. But to the flip

664
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: side of that, when stuff gets out, yeah, and how

665
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: that can affect Like you think the players the only

666
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: meaning is this great thing, and then stuff gets out

667
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: and then people feel a way about.

668
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: And then they could get chopped up, dice up in

669
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: some bullshit. It might not even happen that one credit.

670
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: They've kind of come out and been like, Yo, wasn't

671
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: that serious. We had a talk. We had a chat.

672
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: It's not the end of the world. But I do

673
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 3: think like there needs to be some recognition, like Paul

674
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: said that, like, Yo, you guys haven't won a championship.

675
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: Going through the season, going through the motion doing cool

676
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: guy basketball is like a like, I don't understand that

677
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: as their attitude and their approach again to things, And

678
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: I think that's a problem for sure.

679
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: They they gotta start playing like they're the clear flavors

680
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: and not just showing up and think it's gonna happen.

681
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I said it before on the show too, Paul,

682
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: like they they don't have the type of defense that

683
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: could just dominate every single night on just shere talent

684
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: and will, like they can be good by going extremely

685
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: hard and nailing every single assignment and making sure you're

686
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: in every single spot, nail every rotation, that kind of thing.

687
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 3: But it feels like on a night to night basis,

688
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: they don't feel like bringing that mentality. And when they're

689
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: off it is not top five top three like it's

690
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: been at many points in the season. Well, then that's

691
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: when you see the ls pop.

692
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: Before the last week they were the top bottom five

693
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: offensive defensive.

694
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: So for laving an identity crisis right now, yeah, like

695
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like at this stage

696
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: in the season, you should know what your identity is,

697
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: Like what is the next because last year, the last

698
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: couple years, other than a tough, rugged team that's gonna

699
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: grind it out, they got closers. They got Jalen Brunson

700
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 4: who's gonna wear you out all game, and they're gonna

701
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: grind this out with their defensive prowess, with.

702
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: Offensive rebounds.

703
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 2: Team.

704
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't see that this year.

705
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: They just really need All Star break right now. That's

706
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: what it's showing to me right now.

707
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rockets are also kind of struggling, which I'm

708
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: actually like less worried about. I just think you know,

709
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: their offense, even though they have an efficient offense. Sometimes

710
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: it's just it's just kind of to get stuck in

711
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: the mud. And I think it does. It is because

712
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: they don't have a real, you know, point guard organizing,

713
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: Like you can't just be acting KD at his age

714
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: to be bringing the ball up in organizing your half

715
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: court offense against the best defenses in the league, Like

716
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: it's too much to ask for me. He should just

717
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: be like, yo, get us buckets when we need it,

718
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: organizing our whole freaking offense. This should be somebody else

719
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: that's able to do that, And I think they're having

720
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: right struggles with that.

721
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: I feel like if the three horsemen of the league,

722
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: and I truly believe this, if they're your best player,

723
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you can win a championship. And the

724
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: three horsemen I'm talking about is Steph, KD, Lebron And

725
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: this is I mean just at their age. Yeah, if

726
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: you're asking them to still be your best player at

727
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: thirty seven and thirty eight and forty one, like you know,

728
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: like you need somebody like Bakers have more of a

729
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: chance because now you have Luca, who's being like better

730
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: than Lebron today. Yes, but the other two somebody needs

731
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: to step up and be better than KD and not

732
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: have that pressure on him to be the best player

733
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: and do it like Steph. Steph needs to get Giannis

734
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: over there to help him if they're gonna win a championship.

735
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: Like it's too much to ask these guys, Like who

736
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: at the age of thirty seven thirty eight was the

737
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: best player on the championship team.

738
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody Bron only Bron, Yeah, and.

739
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 4: Twenty he was thirty five, yeah, thirty five, Yeah, But

740
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: at thirty seven, who's been a thirty seven year old

741
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: the best player on the championship team.

742
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: You don't see it, really, are you? Probably We've probably

743
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: never seen it.

744
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do think they should still try to,

745
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: you know, shore up the roster.

746
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: I do.

747
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: I would like to see that, but I'm not too

748
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: concerned about them. I'm a little bit more concerned about

749
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: the Knicks. But even the Knicks, I just think in

750
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: the playoff setting, they're gonna go as hard.

751
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: As help you just defense. You just don't want to

752
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: fuck around thinking you could just turn to switch on

753
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: whenever you You don't want to end up in acting

754
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: right now the home court, like like you ain't gonna

755
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: switch it on all the time.

756
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: To so you want to you want to play the

757
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: Hawks or somebody in the first round and save your

758
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: energies for the second round. But let's move on, man.

759
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: We told you guys were we're doing our picture making.

760
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: We're keeping up, bro, We're bringing y'all receipts when it

761
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: comes to these prize picks.

762
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: Man.

763
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Wednesday night was no different for us in terms of

764
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: our season long hot streak. The Calves at the Hornets,

765
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 3: Danny went four and oh. Paul and I both went

766
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: three and one solid. You're in the black, Thank you

767
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: very much.

768
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: You should be like having a down payment on a

769
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: new house by then. What's going on?

770
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: So Donovan Mitchell four point five assists more or less?

771
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: We both said he would have. We all said he

772
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: would have more. He had six LaMelo Ball four point

773
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: five assists. We all said more. He had seven. Conker

774
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: Nipple more or less, it's seventeen and a half. He

775
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 3: had twenty one. Me and Danny said more. Paul said less.

776
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: Evan Mobley more or less than seventeen and a half.

777
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: He ended up with fourteen. I said more, Danny and

778
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: Paul said less. Right Now, I'm thirty three and seventeen,

779
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: Danny is thirty and twenty, Paul is twenty nine to

780
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: twenty one.

781
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: This is an.

782
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Incredible game, but we're saying, just last week, this is nuts.

783
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: So let's get into our favorite part of every single show.

784
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: That's the Picks of the Night, presented by Prize picks Man.

785
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: We got the Nuggets at the Bucks. The Nuggets another

786
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: win against the Washington Wizards, beat.

787
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: Them by ten, took a tough less of the night,

788
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: took a tough.

789
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: Loss to the Lakers. They were winning that game double

790
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: digits in the Lakers that first half.

791
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: We were like, oh, it's over. Yeah.

792
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: Lakers ended up coming back to their credit. But the Nuggets, man,

793
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: they're keeping the pace until Yokic gets back. They're gonna

794
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: maintain a very high seed in the Western Conference. Super

795
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: happy for them. But let's get into our picks of

796
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: the night. Let's Johannis first up, more or less than

797
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: three point five dunk?

798
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets me, he gets to the rim. Man,

799
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say less though. I think I think it's three.

800
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets four.

801
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less as well. I feel like the

802
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Nuggets are gonna play a slower paced game.

803
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: I just feel they're gonna get blown out again, and

804
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna be.

805
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: All the Bucks are gonna get Jesus can't even beat

806
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: the Yo.

807
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: He said they were well he they lost, Okay, it's

808
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: a really good team. He's like, we're not playing hard,

809
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: We're not playing together. I don't seen the press conference,

810
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: but you know, post game comments. But he's like, I'm like, damn,

811
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: you know. So they might play harder, but again, I

812
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: still think they're gonna.

813
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: Before we get into these next picks, Danny, I want

814
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: to ask you about that because, oh, sorry, what's your

815
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: pick three point? I'm going less as well? What is

816
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: that like? How does that supposed to make a guy

817
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: who's out there playing their role as hard as they can,

818
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: as hard as they can and your superstar comes out

819
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: for lack of a better so he threw those guys

820
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: under the bus. That's what that felt like to me.

821
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: You lose to Okay, see best team in the league.

822
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 3: Obviously they blow a lot of teams out. This isn't

823
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: like something they don't do on the regular Sure, what's

824
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: that like.

825
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: For a role player? Could go one of two ways?

826
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: If I felt like we really didn't play well. Then

827
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, he's right, but I felt like, yo,

828
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: if I'm busting mind.

829
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: I watched that game Gouds. We're trying, dude, I'm.

830
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: Saying, if they're busting, like we're busting our ays here

831
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: and you're just like shitting on us. It's like, damn, bro,

832
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: he really don't want to be here. It's disappointing. It's

833
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: a little disheartening, but yeah, I try to see both

834
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: sides of the scope, even as a player, Like, all right,

835
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: I see where he's coming from with that. It's probably frustrated.

836
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: And then like, what did we how did we play?

837
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Did we play hard? I'll look at the film. If

838
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: that's how we played play hard, I'll be like, yo, bro,

839
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: we trying. Bro. Let us know what we need to

840
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: do to help you. You know what I'm trying. We're

841
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: doing what we can. Is there something more we can

842
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: do for you? Obviously missing something. We don't have the

843
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: roster that you're used to having in the past when

844
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: you were contenders. So that's when a role player like

845
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: myself will come to the start playing le Yo, We're

846
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: trying trying our best, bro. Let us know there's something more.

847
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: We can try to do the fix, but right now

848
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: there's not much more we can give.

849
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: Bro, Like, yeah, Paul, I feel like you weren't the

850
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: type of guy that would just go and just kill

851
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: your teammates like that in a post game after a loss,

852
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: Like what is that even about? Bro?

853
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Man? It just shows me that the frustrations is building up.

854
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: It's like, Man, he talking about a generational talent on

855
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: a team that's most likely looking like they're not going

856
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs.

857
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: And the eleventh seed right now, like he's in this page.

858
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: So the frustration is definitely built up. A guy who

859
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 4: should be like in conversations for MVP every year, but

860
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: because his team success is not there, he's not there

861
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: and we're not talking about him winning a championship this year.

862
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: And this is a guy who I've said, like, this

863
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: is a guy who keeps you in championship contention. Yeah,

864
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 4: But the way I look at it, Man Siskopo, he's productive,

865
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: he puts up his numbers, but his game just has

866
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: and evolved to me, like I don't like watching them play,

867
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: Like it's like give the ball to Linus and get

868
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: out the way. That's like the offense, and I'm like,

869
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: something has to change, whether it's the personnel.

870
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Speaker 3: Jamal Murray, who's been on an absolute heater more or

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Speaker 2: Gonna I'm gonna go more, He's been said without Yoki's

876
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00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, twenty eight is such a big number

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00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: He had twenty six the first half, but I'm going less.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be the tie breaker here. I'm gonna

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00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: go with more. I just think Jamal Murray is like

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883
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00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,400
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886
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Speaker 3: less than twenty eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say less, just because again I think they're

888
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,440
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00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: More for me, more for me, Yiannis, he's the numbers guy.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get his numbers. Yeah, I got more a last,

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00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: but not least, Peyton Watson, your guy Paul more or

892
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,600
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Speaker 4: Peyton Watson has been on the radar for most improved

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895
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,320
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Speaker 2: He opened three, yeah.

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984
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Speaker 1: How do you like?

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989
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: out for Phoenix since moving off with kd Well?

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Speaker 2: I mean, way better than I expected. Honestly, if you

991
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: didn't think like a like them kind of in rebuild mode,

992
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: be playing as well, like they're going to be probably

993
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: a top six seed in my eyes. You know, you

994
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: get Jayleen green Back and he's he come on the bench.

995
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he's playing heavy minutes either, but he

996
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: gets a rhythm. That's another score. You know, Dylan Brooks

997
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: has been playing well obviously, Devin Booker is always an

998
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: all star Cali player. Gillespie has been hooping. You got

999
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Dunn, you know Voyce O'Neill like the added pieces.

1000
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: They're playing hard. You know, shout out to the coaching staff.

1001
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: They're doing what they're supposed to do. They're playing way

1002
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: better than I expect them to play.

1003
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, sometimes you get into a situation to

1004
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: where when you clear out the clutter, and then you

1005
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Speaker 4: clear out the expectations, it's easier to play for them.

1006
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: I feel like last year there was heavy expectations.

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Speaker 4: Because when I saw the Phoenix Suns on paper before

1008
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1009
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,360
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1010
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,040
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1011
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:25,759
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1012
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,439
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1013
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Just hooping, playing free and playing free. And that's why

1014
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: I probably see that Phoenix is having the success they're having.

1015
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting to me about the KD move,

1016
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: And you mentioned Booker and Bradley Beal and KD in

1017
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: comparison with this year's team, where their identity is kind

1018
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: of just like down and dirty, get your fingernails, dirty

1019
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: blue collars, scrappy bunch. I don't think they could have

1020
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: assumed that identity with last year's team. No, And we

1021
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,680
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1022
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: oh for sure, but they couldn't assume that identity. I

1023
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,479
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1024
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,000
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1025
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: you got three proven All Stars on the team now,

1026
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: but you guys assumed the like sort of gritty identity.

1027
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: How come it is that y'all were able to do that?

1028
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: What do you think prevented Phoenix from not sort of

1029
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, just having this like lack of a

1030
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,000
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1031
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the players, I mean,

1032
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,000
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1033
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1034
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1035
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Speaker 4: But then when you talk about guys like Tony Allen,

1036
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1037
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1038
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Speaker 4: think nobody in the league, but he has to screen

1039
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: the team squabble with us, Like when you look at

1040
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,640
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1041
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1042
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:18,960
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1043
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,799
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1044
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,440
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1045
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1046
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,320
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1047
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,560
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1048
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Speaker 1: We'll take the long route.

1050
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Speaker 2: I mean, Phoenix had a lot of injuries, but raid

1051
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,000
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1052
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,520
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1053
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,640
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1054
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,400
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1055
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,160
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1056
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: an adjustment. So yeah, they didn't. They didn't even have

1057
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,480
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1058
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1059
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1060
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1061
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1062
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
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1063
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,440
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1064
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,440
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1065
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1066
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1067
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1068
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1069
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1070
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1071
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1072
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1073
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,640
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1074
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Speaker 2: You know. I mean that wasn't Katie played something and

1075
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,480
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1076
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
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1077
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1078
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1079
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1080
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1081
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1082
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1083
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1084
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Speaker 2: our guys for like the offensive was where we had

1085
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 2: the trouble. Yeah, on that end, but yeah, man shout

1086
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: out to Phoenix. They hoop him bro I love it.

1087
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: And they are one of the toughest, grittiest teams. A

1088
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: lot of Dylan Brooks again deserves his flowers for the

1089
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: sort of mentality that he's brought and he's helping them

1090
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 3: forging identity on that. And so shouts to the Suns

1091
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: in the power move they made to have the foresight

1092
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: to be like, you know what, our future would be

1093
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: better if we moved on from Kevin Durant. So the

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00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 3: other day, Paul you said that the Lakers are basically

1095
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: a constant soap opera, and of course, right on cue

1096
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: back to the Home of ESPN drops this bombshell, huge

1097
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 3: story about Genie Buss, her family, how the sale of

1098
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: the team came together.

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00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, to meeting with good people man, good article.

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00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: Her relationship with Lebron, different things, all of an angling

1101
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: she had to do. But basically, you know, they sold

1102
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 3: the team for ten billion, all of doctor Bus's kids,

1103
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: I think it's six kids in total, basically sharing in

1104
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: that Genie stays on as she negotiated. First of all,

1105
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: she negotiated bonuses for all of her crew, not her

1106
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters, just you know, uh Linda Rambiz, Kurt Rambis, herself.

1107
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: She fired her two brothers.

1108
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: In succession bro who works succession who.

1109
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: Worked in the player personnel, basketball ops, excuse me, and

1110
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: so just some of the quotes about Genie with like

1111
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 3: the Lebron stuff they said. The Genie privately grumbled, people

1112
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: close to the team say about what she felt was

1113
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: James's outsized ego and the overt control that he ain't

1114
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: clutched sports, which represents both James and Anthony Davis exerted

1115
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: over the organization at times. Also, she didn't like that

1116
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: James was considered a savior for a floundering franchise when

1117
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: he arrived in twenty eighteen, and that it was he

1118
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership, receiving

1119
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: praise for landing him. Team sources have been adamant for

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00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: years that James's camp informed the Lakers as early as

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. I thought this was interesting that people around

1122
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: the team was like, yeah, we knew, basically we tampered

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00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 3: with this guy since twenty seventeen that he was going

1124
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: to join the Lakers the following year. The distance between

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00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: James and Genie widened after the Lakers trading for Russell Westbrook.

1126
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: People close to the team said that the team have

1127
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: made the trade in an effort to appease James. But

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 3: the acquisition ended in catastrophe LA with thirty three and

1129
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: forty nine and missed the playoffs, and James seemed to

1130
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: wash his hands of the acquisition as if he had

1131
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with it, you know, And so there

1132
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: was some frustrations about a sort of lack of accountability

1133
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: on Genie Bust's part. She released a statement to My

1134
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: God Sam may Man up the Athletic saying, quote, it's

1135
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: really not right, given all the great things Lebron has

1136
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: done for the Lakers, that he has to be pulled

1137
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: into my family.

1138
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 8: Drama to say that it wasn't appreciated. It's just not

1139
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 8: true and is completely completely unfair to him. Interesting, what

1140
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 8: are your thoughts on this?

1141
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: I think the Lebron stuff is probably a little overstated.

1142
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: Which part they gave him his extension twice, they drafted

1143
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: his damn kid who probably didn't deserve to be drafted.

1144
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: They basically, outside of not giving him the extension last summer,

1145
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: which he bitched about in the press, and oh, we

1146
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: don't like the direction and stuff, they gave Lebron everything

1147
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: he wanted. So this idea that she hated Lebron or

1148
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 3: didn't funk with Lebron. It was mad about this with Lebron.

1149
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: They paid him and when he wanted favorites done, they

1150
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: did it.

1151
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: So I don't mean she had like to do it

1152
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: fair because he had all the leverage.

1153
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: Sure, I mean we saw that iconic game where James

1154
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: was not playing, sitting next to Jants, Jeanie Buss and

1155
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: Missus Lambeth.

1156
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: It was all late.

1157
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: It seemed like bells and whistles and giggles right there.

1158
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 4: We saw that on a national TV game. So for

1159
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 4: this to come out like it is and make James

1160
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: look like the bad guy, listen, they got everything they

1161
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: wanted out of James. If you get James in the

1162
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: trade and you get a championship and ten billion dollars, yeah,

1163
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: pretty good.

1164
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Pretty.

1165
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: If you ask me. I want to ask you guys

1166
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: though about the tamper and accusations because I think I

1167
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: think it'd be interesting for listeners to understand the sort

1168
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: of business back end of the NBA. And I know

1169
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: for a fact you could take KB going to the Warriors,

1170
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: don't That chatter started in January of that year. Lebron

1171
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: to LA started in like twenty sixteen after the Cleveland.

1172
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: Champion because people knew it. It's not about the team

1173
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: trying to It's what he wanted to do, right. It

1174
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: ain't about all the team exactly should be receiving praise

1175
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: for landing him, but.

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00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: Like somebody like Lebron, and I think somebody like Lebron,

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: he's not gonna make a choice to like he's not

1178
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 3: showing up the free agency July first and be like, hmm,

1179
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: what am I going to do this here?

1180
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew way before, you.

1181
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: Know, before especially a player that important. Danny informed us

1182
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: about his own free agency at twenty twenty, where he

1183
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, certain dominoes had the fall for me

1184
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: before I decided where.

1185
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna be.

1186
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: Lebron is a It's a different type of situation at

1187
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: the top of the domino with exactly. They're the fucking dominant,

1188
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: So we're waiting for them to make decision before we can, yeah,

1189
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: everything after them. I appreciate the candor of the story,

1190
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: but I wonder if fans even are naive enough to

1191
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: think that guys are picking teams, especially the biggest guys

1192
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: are picking teams.

1193
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: Now, teams can persuade them a little bit, but guys

1194
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: already know in their mind where they want to be,

1195
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: where they want to go. The whole tampering thing is

1196
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: silly to me. In any type of sport, who gives you.

1197
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: And I think the Templar thing is funny because if

1198
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: you want to say they talked to him in twenty seventeen,

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01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 3: I remember the first finals against the Warriors, this guy

1200
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. They lost, but like he played his ass

1201
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: off for Cleveland twenty eighteen, same shit, So you can't say, like, oh,

1202
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: he was distracted and he was thinking about l A

1203
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: and like, bro, these guys are so competitive he's gonna

1204
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: kill it for whoever is paying them to play. So

1205
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: that's that's what my whole thing with the tampering thing is.

1206
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of fans get conspiratorial about

1207
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: some of this stuff, Paul, but like like a Lebron

1208
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: and his whole freaking media operation.

1209
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering why this came out now. I don't

1210
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: understand why it came out now.

1211
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. We would have to ask Baxter about this.

1212
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: Is he probably been working on this since the sale

1213
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: for sure.

1214
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: If I know, back waiting a different time, like it

1215
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a good time, and maybe a summertime type

1216
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: of thing.

1217
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the Lakers are always big

1218
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: news in.

1219
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: The middle of them struggling, like ship when they're struggling,

1220
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: the podcast and all that. Yes, it's the traffic.

1221
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: I guess there's a few teams that in sports general

1222
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 4: that if there's any type of news, it's always yeah Cowboys.

1223
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cowboys, And like the Yankees, it's like it's always newsworthy,

1224
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: whether like matter when it happened, exact moment, you know

1225
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: that it matters at that time.

1226
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 6: This is Lebron made five years ago, then it would

1227
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 6: be different, maybe like six years ago, Miami Bron, You're

1228
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 6: not ready talking so for real, because then it's like

1229
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 6: blow by dunk. He's got more game to him, more agile.

1230
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 6: Right now, he's like, look, I always been saying, you

1231
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So so like you can like

1232
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 6: press up in him. You can like, you know, cut

1233
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 6: him off spots so you know his moves he's gonna do.

1234
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 6: So you can like always chirp a little bit. For

1235
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 6: some reason, he likes to do a little chirping.

1236
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: But then he realized that a lot of with the

1237
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: shades on the comments are though reading the comments, they're like, oh,

1238
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: so you're just okay, we're picking on the old guy.

1239
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: Basically you're not.

1240
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: That's in the person from an old lady.

1241
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: It's the first talking about gangs, the old lady person.

1242
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: Basically, it's what he says, gang picking on a senior citizen.

1243
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: That's that's basically what he's doing. But I think that

1244
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: everybody knows.

1245
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: He just said in the prime, he probably still would

1246
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: have done it. But he's saying it's harder to talk

1247
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: ship to a guy that's probably gonna still it would

1248
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: have been too embarrassing to continue. Like he was like,

1249
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't respect you to give him forty You know

1250
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because like, I don't respect her till

1251
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: you give me forty. Brown would probably have like forty

1252
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: five on him in his Miami days, but old Lebron

1253
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: like twenty maybe twenty two.

1254
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: Still a hundred, one hundred.

1255
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: But I like the admission though, the self awareness.

1256
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: Of like, bro, he's he's not he's not delusional.

1257
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: Of course I can talk ship now, and you know,

1258
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: obviously Lebron is somebody he looked up to his whole career.

1259
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: I do appreciate the honesty though, like I do this

1260
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: ship because he's old.

1261
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't run.

1262
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: All right, folks, that's our show for today. If you're

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,960
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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,360
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01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,760
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