WEBVTT - Episode 12 Ft. Julia Beverly 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.000 What's up is Angela? Yee? And you know what time 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.400 it is. It's time for lip Service. Of course, I 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.639 got g McGuire and Stephanie Santiago my co host with me. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 And this week's special guests are a good friend of mine, 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.000 Julia Beverly. She has the Sweet Jones Pimcies Trill Life 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.760 Story in stores now you can get it on Amazon. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.440 And of course she brought Jada. Now, Jada is in 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.600 the book, and well, I guess you're gonna learn a 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.040 lot just like we did on this episode of lip Service. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.800 We learned a lot of things about pimps and hose 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.760 and escorting and all of that. Very educational. Check it out. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.000 What's up is Angela? Ye, it's lip Service. I'm Stephanie Santiago, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:50.479 I'm g McGuire, gez bag. I missed you guys, and 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.960 we got special guests with us today. We got Julia Beverly, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.400 We have Jada. Hey. Now this is big because, as 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.360 you can see, Julia's book is up here. You did 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:05.880 this pim C biography right. Julia is also a good 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.160 friend of us. We loved Julia right, she started Ozone magazine, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.120 which was a big deal. And you're a photographer. Yes, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.480 she's a boss. She's an amazing photographer. And Jade is 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.920 up here with us. But actually, when I was moving, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.800 I had packed up some of my old Ozone magazines. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.120 Oh Wow, you gotta you gotta stash of Bozone that 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.560 posted one at the back Thursday, when oh wow, I 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.920 missed that. I had definitely have a stash of bo Zones, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.240 I would hope. So we're actually working on getting that 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.200 in a some some libraries, some college libraries, the whole collection, 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.160 and you know, for history, you know, as part of history. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.800 Do you know that when Little Wayne got out of jail, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.840 the first person he tweeted with Julia Beverley, that was 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.840 my claim to fame for for a little while, shout 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.320 out little Wayne. How did that even happen? I don't know. Well, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.360 I sent Wayne some books while he was in prison. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.559 I think I was actually the last person to interview 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.120 him before he went in. That was the Ozone cover story, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:59.720 I think, And I sent him a few books that 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.640 I thought were interesting, just so we'd have something to read. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.680 And when he got out of prison, I was one morning, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.400 I think I was like getting in the shower or something, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:07.880 and I just looked on Twitter and I saw he 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.840 had posted a tweet that he was home, and I 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.160 replied and said welcome home. And I got out of 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.480 the shower and I had like, you know, hundreds of 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.560 like and and I'm like, what happened? And so I 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.720 saw he had he had just tweeted me like thanks 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.519 or something like that. And so people were like radio 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.359 stations were calling me like, oh, you were the first 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.560 person Wayne tweet. We want to interview you, like seriously, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.839 And I just thought it was funny, but were looking 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.080 for information, looking for news. Being that you had Ozone magazine, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.680 a lot of guys always wanted to get on the 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.399 cover and stuff like that. Did you ever get propositioned? 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.480 A lot of guys like trying to hillight at you 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.000 to get that cover slot? Be honest, I'm just joy 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.359 some guys. I mean, being in the industry, of course 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.880 you get proposition I don't know for the cover specifically. Um, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.840 there was a rapper who his manager wanted him to 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.200 perform at the Ozone Awards in Miami, and I told 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.280 him we didn't have a slot, or I told him 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:58.960 no basically, and we hung up the phone and he 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.480 sent me a picture or of his penis or a penis, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:08.079 so it did not know No, his his group did 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.280 not perform, So the penis wasn't that impressive? If it wasn't, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:17.320 I don't think that unsolicited penis pictures really work. It 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.480 doesn't work for me penis pictures that Jade, I'm sure 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.480 you've gotten some unsolicited I didn't ask for is penis pictures. Oh, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.840 I get them all the time. Like them, you like 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:35.240 you like dick pics? No, you have guys like I 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.320 didn't ask for all that. You know, I didn't ask 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.360 for all that. What if they probably sent it from 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.880 their granny's basement. I don't want their dick. The kind 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.000 of guys who want does not. They don't say pictures, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:55.880 broken pictures, what is it? Or insecure one or insecure one? 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.280 You think that's insecurity? Add what if he isn't the 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.400 only thing they have to offer the world is are big? 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.480 You know? Because men, they might also think they like 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.640 getting pictures from us, So maybe we were like, you know, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.000 I think that's what it is. They love getting pictures 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.200 from women, So I think that, and they think the 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.280 same from us. They think that we liked it, but 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.040 I don't really know a lot of girls that want 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.800 you to just send your dick VI. Well, men are visual, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.960 but women we want to be like teased a little bit, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.159 like I'd rather see a little you know, a little 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.360 dick print and that that's why what was it? Uh swept? 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.280 What was it called? The bob? Did women like that? 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.039 Like we rather to see it in your sweatpants and 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.120 actually see it. Oh, I don't like to dick if 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.440 I asked for it, if I'm looking for it, but 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:41.159 not a random one. Not just random. Yeah, you're sending 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.080 me that dick pick is not gonna make me send 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.920 you a picture. And I always think when guys send 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.799 a dick pick they've had it like in their phone 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.520 for a while, yeah, because they feel like it's not 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.840 like a fresh I'm taking this today picture. There was 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.400 an actor in l A that I met at a 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.240 party and he showed me he had a separate phone 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.520 with about twenty dick pictures and he was just like 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.080 just had just met him, like literally two minutes ago. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.039 That definitely happened in l A. Right, do you know 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.520 what I'm talking about? That? Yeah, but he was creepy. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:15.760 He liked he had a nice sauce because some porn star, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.120 so I'm sure, yeah I have. I'm sure that you've 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.000 seen them. You know? Is it weird like to be 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.640 friends at the porn Star and West Airporn and be like, oh, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:31.240 I really loved your working. When curiosity kills the cat, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.840 I feel like, you know, you might google their name 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.200 and find some dirt out and just be creeped out. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.800 So they're just like a grimy porn star and shameful 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.240 friends at that point. Now, Dada, let's talk about why 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.480 you're here today. All right, Julia actually bout you when 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.880 you're in her book about him c. Yeah, I'm here 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.680 to support her, right, and um, you have some interesting 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.400 stories though, because when she told me about you, I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.279 was like, I would love to meet Jada just to 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:59.800 pick her brain because she always said, to the hell 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.039 need you are? How you just talk about anything? And 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.280 you yourself A said you're very blunt about certain things. Yeah, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.040 I don't bite my time, you don't bite you to 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.400 matter what the consequences are. So I was reading the 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.760 book and you actually used to would you say date Pimcy? 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.400 Was that like your what do what do you consider? 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.680 How would you characterize your relationship? I would say that 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.240 he was a guy that came in my life and 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.200 proved himself to be like the definition of a real 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.640 niggo whatever. You know. He um, he taught me, you know, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.840 value and you know how men are supposed to treat woman. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.520 And you know, he gave me up like, you know, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.360 if if I'm gonna be someone with somebody, you know, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.719 make sure that they don't play me off my mind, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.360 play me off my heart, or play me off my pussy, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.159 you know. And and you know, he started kind of 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.440 instilling those type of values that a big brother or 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.839 a father figure would, you know, and still in a 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.279 woman that you know needs to know those things. But 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.040 but you guys did have intimate relations at the same time. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.560 And I don't want to comment on that. I don't 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.880 want speak on anyone else's dick. But he was very 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.600 good to me. You know, he was a good person 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.880 to me. How did you guys meet? Um? We met 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.160 at the Montreal You know, I kind of like I 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:15.080 was taking care of business. I was hustling. You were 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.000 an escort at that I was an escort at the time, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.400 and I was going to take care of one of 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.840 my clients. Yeah, I was going to take care of 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.840 one of my clients, and um, you know, I kind 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.640 of want to He tried to get my attention when 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.800 I went upstairs. Um, the situation you know, was very 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.560 lucrative and only last about fifteen minutes. So I came 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.000 back down and okay, wait, now let's let's go back 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.360 to that fifteen minutes. What are you doing fifteen minutes? 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.520 I mean, I mean I was I was an adult 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.720 service provider at the time. Fifteen minutes and now she 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.320 was just doing her got job good. It was over fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.880 you know ahead of time that it's only going to 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:01.680 be fifteen minutes pretty much. Yeah, pretty much home downstairs 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.920 and he was like, save bitch, he said, because I 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.480 save bit. And and I was trying to me you know, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.200 I was the pimps how at the time, so I'm 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.560 like looking at the ground, you know, doing all this 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.160 creepy stuff that they try to put in your head whatever, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.760 and I felt like he was trying to be your pimp, yeah, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.640 you know, and he had you know, the image jewelry whatever. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.720 He was very flamboyant, and I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.400 not another nigga. And I was like he's like, I'm 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.120 not a pimp. I pimp the rap game, you know, 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.360 and he you know, started talking talking to me about 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.720 that broke well know that, Yeah, I googled him later, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.720 but you know, broke the ice and we ended up 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.640 talking about you know, things from you know, the music 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.480 industry to my lifestyle to God, and you know we 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.600 kind of like bonded from that point. So he was 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.040 kind of kind of more of an accountability partner and 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.360 a mentor and a real friend, you know, and someone 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.520 that wasn't At first, I was timid, you know, I 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.800 thought maybe he wanted my money. But you know, after time, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.120 I I've seen he was doing things for me that 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.839 nobody else did, like things like what like you know, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.760 basically making me a better person, making me a better woman, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.040 you know, teaching me that, you know, everything that I 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.920 need to know. I don't need to pay anyone to 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.959 get It's all in my head. You know, I could 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.680 go out and get it myself. I could you know, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.720 be a better woman, a stronger woman, and kind of 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.559 like balance my self out and make better choices. Do 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.679 you think it's an escort you have to have a pimp. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.880 I don't think as an escort you necessarily have to 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.960 have a pimp. I would say about half of them, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:42.520 do you know, because you think or not? Um, it 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.080 just depends. I mean, if you're human traffic victim and 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.000 you're in the situations to where you're actually in the streets, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.360 then you might need protection. You know, if you're on 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.559 a different level and you know, people have their credit 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.480 card information and they're taking care of you and it's 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.839 a sugar daddy type of thing and yeah, what like, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.840 you know, it might it might not be that situation. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.000 But some people are just you know, they don't even 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.280 have a bank account, so you know they might need 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.640 a little guidance. But no, but what you said, what 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.880 you said how you met Pimsey was interesting to me 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.720 because you know, girls in the game, you learn about 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.560 pimps and the relationships they have with their girls, and 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.520 you know, one of the rules you can't look at 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.160 another pim Yeah, talks to another pim yeah, look down 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.559 or look another way. You never make eye contact with 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.120 another pick Yeah. And you know you you being from 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.600 the East Coast, like you guys are you know, strong 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.840 independent woman, so you don't necessarily like but these girls 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.840 on the calls don't. Don't let it fool you. They 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.640 got pimps to you for so well, No, I would 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.079 say they're just tricking. I don't think they have pimps 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.160 because they're not getting you know, they're they're not getting 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.000 but they're not getting the rules because I don't know 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.000 what the rules. Okay, so they're tell me some tell 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.200 me some of the rules. These the pimps here on 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.559 the East Coast. It's it's like fake pimping. They're groupies. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.800 They're groupies. They're probably paying rappers, they're probably paying you know, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.120 the boys or whatever, you know, but they're yeah, they're 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.760 getting like a thousand dollars and there, and they're passing 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:19.199 their money and maybe getting whatever it's But but really, 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.880 you know, real boss witches out here on the East 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.600 Coast don't kind of understand that mentality. On the West Coast, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.400 you know, they kind of like Bill, they need help 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.560 sometimes some girls do. But once once you pay for whatever, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.240 you need to know, like, you know, do your own thing, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:40.320 retire yourself, going to a different business. You said, I know, 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.600 you said. Five years is usually what they tell you, like, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.240 do this for five years. Stuck in. Yeah, when I 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.840 got in the game, it was like, hey, you know 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.640 what to take care, take care of your business. Graduate 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.760 in five years, have some business to show for yourself, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.839 you know, have something to show for yourself, and and 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.839 carry on. And I think a lot of people don't 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.120 know how this boy, because I don't really know that 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.200 much about the ship between pimps and their hose, you know, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.280 escorts or whatever. So Stephanie said, one of the rules 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.960 is you're not allowed to look another pimp in the 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.079 eye when you have called reckless eyeballing reckless eyeblinks. So 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.800 give me some more rules because I don't know some 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.080 of the other one. I know that one because I 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.200 have two brothers who are actually doing a lot of 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:22.560 fed time right now. For I know, I'm feeling that 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.400 because my brother in law is from Detroit, and they 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.920 put you like, you know, you don't have to be, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.360 you know, in in the game to the rules. You 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.720 know the rules, because if you're you know, just a 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.120 smart person, you're gonna want to be aware of your surroundings, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.320 whatever type of What are some more of the rules, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.439 so we know, I'm just curious. I want to You 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.840 can't get out of pocket, you know, you can't get 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.040 out of pocket. No mouthing off and no, like you 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.320 you know, the only male you're supposed to communicate with 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.320 is your daddy, you know, and your daddy is supposed 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.560 to you know, take care of you or whatever. But 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.920 if you get out of pocket, you know, you might 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.520 suffer the consequences. What is getting out of pocket? Getting 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.920 out of pocket is kind of like cheating on your boyfriend, alright, 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.320 So no, like having deep conversations with somebody else, not 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.640 even looking at another guy, not even being on the 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.120 phone with another guy, exchanging numbers. So you can't have 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.320 a boyfriend? No, yeah, no, okay, what are some more 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.760 rules I need to know about? A bottom bitch? Like 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:33.880 is there? Okay? Okay, okay, bottom No, no, no, okay, okay. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.000 I've had a whole bunch of sister wives. That ship 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.880 has hell it crazy. It's a bunch of hose, you know. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.920 And they chased after the same cock, and they're sold 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.800 the same illusion. And there they either keep it, yeah, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:51.240 they either keep it real or you know, they're they're 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.000 not in it to chase the same millions. If they're 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.360 in it to chase the you know, the guy you know, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.400 they won't have they'll have a short expiration date. If 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.600 they're in it for money, then they might be yeah, 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.800 a bottom bitch. Have you been in a situation where 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.840 there was a bottom bitch? Or yeah, yeah, yeah, and 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.720 and that and that's some bullshit. That's basically like you 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.040 take the ass end of the stick. You gotta like 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.640 have all these responsible you're like the junior pim, you know, Yeah, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:22.800 you don't like so you don't like to tack to 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.000 you a little more. I mean, if if a guy, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.120 if a if a p has a bottom bitch, if 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.960 a pimp has a bottom bitch and she's on you know, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.000 and on businesses and is a direct reflection of his empire, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.520 you know, then I could be like, oh, okay, you know, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.200 salute to you because you have something to show for yourself. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.800 But if you're a bottom bitch and you're at the bottom, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.080 you know, the bottom of the barrel and the bottom, yeah, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.000 the bottom, this is a good thing. Like I'm holding 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:56.800 my man down. Mentally, Sometimes the bottom bitch has just 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.560 been round enough and she has to be told she's 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.440 the bottom bitch because she's just you know, been around 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.960 too much. But to me, you know, it might I 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.120 thought that you know, the bottom bitch might get like 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.240 special treatment. Yeah, yeah, she holds it down in real situations, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.240 which there's about five pc of the and the bottom 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.680 gets pregnant. No no, no, no no no no no 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.120 no no no no no no no no no no. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.640 If you were in a if you were in a 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.080 situation and you're in a situation over you know, six 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.680 seven years, and you have planned and it makes sense, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.280 and you've put in millions and it makes sense to 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.720 bring a child into that environment, then salute to you 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.200 because you know you have enough money for a nanny 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.760 and you know, you know, you know, early child development, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.960 private school. But if you don't got it like that, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.120 your bottom bitch that lives at the motel six needs 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.880 to yeah, needs to get her tubes tied, because it's 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.200 not you're gonna have some fun up child. I agree 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.240 with that. Now, let's well, let's talk about two for 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.760 a second. Data because in the book you refer to Jamal. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.320 Now it turns out I was beating the description of footnotes. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.640 Jamal is Molly Mall from Love and Hip Hop? Is 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.280 that correct? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Jamal's cool. Were you his 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:20.880 bottom bitch, Jamal? Ever, Jamal didn't have a bottom bitch. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.160 Jamal ran um kind of like a business, you know, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.760 a legitimate business and a licensed opera, um, a licensed 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.800 operating you know in room entertainment business. Okay, it's called 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.480 in room entertainment. Yeah. Yeah, it's like legal in the 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.000 state of NA. Yeah, it's legal in the secondary and 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:46.240 um you know the great thing. Yeah, it's like movies. Yeah, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.600 it's nothing legal French it was we were like, you know, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:56.400 we were like the Hugh Hefner playboy bunnies of that decade. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.680 So he was getting his money though, for real, because 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.560 Molly mall Um, I could say, you know, after being 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.159 in you know all these people's homes. You know, no 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.320 needs name drop or whatever. Everyone's home. Everyone's fake mansions 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.040 that you know the record label Yeah, that the record 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:20.840 labels paid for. It's whatever whatever whatever. Like Jamal Ship 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.400 is solid. You know, he pays his taxes, like his 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.600 mansion is. I would describe as like Michael Jackson's like 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.680 never never Land. You know, you might get some Jesus Joes, 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.040 you might run into lions, tigers, bears or whatever, but 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.520 you know it was likenyimately paid. He has a legitimate business. Yeah, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.800 he's paid. Because when I was introduced to him, it 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.560 was like, oh, you know, world famous producer. I was like, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.640 who is Molly? I've never heard of him. He's an 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:53.080 executive producer. Phober writes his music and music and stuff 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.760 like that, you know, and they're they're like a duo 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.040 or whatever. I don't know, So what was it like 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:02.719 working for Molly mall um? That was the you know, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.560 one of the best experiences of my life. It honestly 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:10.439 coming from nothing, you know, coming literally from nothing, um 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.600 sugar bread sandwiches, you know, to um being picked up 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.480 from the airport and you know, a Rolls Royce and 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.000 you know, being driven around, you know, everywhere, and by chauffeurs. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.000 I I don't drive, I get driven. You know. He 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.399 put that in me. You know, to this day, you 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.399 don't say, girl, I say the same thing. I like 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:39.480 to get driven. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, but it 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:45.359 wasn't very Yeah, I definitely don't know how to drive. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.840 You live in New York. Now, I don't drive. I 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.680 get driven. And because I do, yeah, yeah, she's like Uber, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:59.760 I take Uber because I don't know how to drive. Yeah, 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.359 but I don't take public transportation because it's embarrassing and 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.040 its small. It's embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie. Take the 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.680 train because it's quicker. Yeah, because it's quicker. Sometimes sometimes 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.640 you get that can tell people. I know people recognize you. Yeah. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.639 But if I'm going like just the most too famous 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.400 to be on the train, he is, no. Because look 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.439 sometimes I go offrom My jab to Midtown and might 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.200 take me an hour to drive, but on the train 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.320 to take me ten minutes. People don't hand your demos, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.280 and no, nobody has me demos, And they'd be like, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.160 are you actually You just be like, no, I'm not 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.520 everybody because I get demos, so I know you get demos. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.399 But back to this, right, back to this to Molly Mall. Okay, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.000 well Molly Mall's good fronts with Tiger right Well, no, no, no, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.080 I don't. I don't know if you know, I don't 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.440 know their relationship, but I know he invested a lot 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.359 in his music projects and stuff like that, and you know, 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.879 he did a lot of good things for Tiger. You know, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.359 one thing I could say about Tamal is like he's 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.480 done a lot for people and they didn't give him 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.160 credit for it. No, I just ring Tiger up because 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.080 we just had um, we just had Cindy star on 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.480 the show, and the media takeout made up a big 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.560 lie about her being with Tiger. So I wanted to 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.520 ask you, like, what do you think about transgenders being 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.680 in that circle? Can you hear me a lease? Yeah? 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.719 Like what do you think about the transgenders in that circle? 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.600 Like do you think they exist in that circle? We 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.720 think it's lies. You know, are there a lot of 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:41.879 transgender escorts? Hold up, Jesus man, hold up, um, you know, honestly, honestly, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.320 I've been around. You know, we all been around. You know, 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.040 we all been around close studio sessions and all types 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.399 of ship and just sitting there like the wall flower 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:55.880 flowers watching them on Molly, you know, do their thing 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.320 and seeing guys be a little bit too friendly. So 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.200 you know, I've seen a lot of guys. Is that. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.000 I scratched my head and I'm like, you know what, 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.320 So you thought I knew them, but you know, I 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.360 don't necessarily know them like that. So as far as Tiger, 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.040 you know, I don't know him personally, but I do 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.440 believe the story because I mean, but you're like I'm saying, 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.640 I'm just asking because you know, you're in the circle. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.439 You've been around for years, you know what. I'm so 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.320 you do believe the story though, Like I'm just I 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.480 you've seen because I know you're really honest. You said 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.840 that from the beginning. Okay, I'm not gonna say, I'm 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:31.959 not gonna say any names, right, but around you know 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.359 that whole little you know, that whole little you know, 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.359