WEBVTT - 06/22/21 DPS Hour 3 Jimmy Jackson 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.720 Sports Radio Final Hour. On this Tuesday, we'll check in 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.119 with the Great Jim Jackson, Turner's Sports NBA analyst. He 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.280 got Game two coming up tonight, but once again, no 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.000 Chris Paul, no Kawhi Leonard. I think we'll see Chris 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:19.800 Paul in this series. I don't know if we're going 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.440 to see Kawhi, but no updates right now. He's in 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.880 COVID protocol right now. And there have been conflicting reports 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:33.240 on Chris Paul that asymptomatic. Another report with Yahoo Sports 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.839 says that or the Arizona Republic said that he is 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.840 suffering from a fever but out with Game two coming 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.800 up tonight and Kawhi Leonard, there's no time frame given 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.800 on his knee issues. There eight seven seven three D 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.720 P show email ADDRESSDP at Dan Patrick dot com Twitter 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.600 handled a DP show. By the way, the meeting to 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.960 decide on a twelve team playoff is expected to be 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:02.279 voted on today and the timing, well, it's probably not 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.679 great timing because this coming off of the Supreme Court, 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.360 you know Justice Cavanaugh basically saying to the NCAA, you're 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.760 running a monopoly here, you know, anti trust and giving 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.080 the athletes their name, image and likeness. Now it's state 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.720 by state where you're going to be able to benefit 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.720 off of your name, image and likeness. And you're going 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.920 to have this juxtaposed to the NCAA going we're gonna 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.319 make even more billions. We got a twelve team playoff here. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.319 We'll get phone calls coming up, update the poll results. Mclovin. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.280 If you can okay as you expected it to run away, 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.679 if you can make either of these happen today, pay 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.000 athletes or have a twelve team playoff, Which would you choose? 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.800 Seventy eight percent? What the twelve team playoff? Yeah, and 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.440 I understand there's certain people who do care about the 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.280 athletes getting paid or they shouldn't get paid. They're getting 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.360 paid with a scholarship. There are students who are on 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.040 scholarship who are to go out and make money while 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.120 on scholarship, but an athlete is not allowed to. And 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.919 this is going to change, whether you like it or not, 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.280 whether the NCAA likes it or not, it's happening, and 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.960 it's happening a lot sooner than you think. This has 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.560 been going on for quite some time, and the NCAA 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.440 could have probably embraced it a little more. Well, anything 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.239 would have been more than what they're doing. But can 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.160 you delay it? That's what the NCAA is trying to do. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.360 Can you delay this? Can we can we keep the 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.120 money for five more years. First of all, the NCAA 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:40.040 is not writing checks to the student athletes. Not This 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.720 is for you know, other departments in the school. Uh, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.440 you know, other athletic programs. Make sure that that you 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.880 keep them afloat. This is about an athlete being able 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:55.079 to cash in on name, image and likeness. Now McLevin 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.440 said that you can't have a shoe deal. Let's say, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.760 and I keep mentioning Spencer Atler. He's the Oklahoma quarterback 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.320 and probably one of the front runners for the Heisman Trophy. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.480 Can you, under the name, image and likeness laws mclovin, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.280 have a shoe deal that is different than what the 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.200 school has now, I remember this. When nil first came up, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.120 we had a guest who told us the shoe companies 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.800 are carved out because all the rules are written in 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.119 the States to protect the schools from having a conflicting sponsor. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.440 So if a school is a Nike school. You can't 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.720 have your players out there wearing Adidas. Okay, we wondered 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.840 if Zion Williamson was happening now, and let's say Adidas 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.680 wanted to give him a million dollars in his own shoe. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.920 Could they do that? You glob But scene had a 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.560 good point, like, isn't this a pipeline where he goes 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.160 he goes to Duke and then Nike says we'll take 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:48.720 care of you when you get to the NBA, or 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.240 not take care of you, but we'll sign you. Well, yeah, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:56.520 you have athlete to go to an Adidas school or 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.440 a Nike school because you're in the feeders system when 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.680 you're in high school, AAU schools, and then you get 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.960 funneled into those schools. Now, the Marquis players can pick 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.520 and choose where they want to go. But I remember 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:14.160 talking to Sonny Vicarrow, the man who basically created this 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.919 blueprint for college basketball with these coaches and signed Michael Jordan. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.159 He said that he knew of Marquis players who didn't 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.800 want to go to a school first based off the 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.120 color of the uniforms. And another star player didn't want 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.640 to go to a school because they were an Adidas 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.440 school and he wanted to wear nikes. And that's the 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.919 reason why this player, who was a well known player, 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.000 semi famous player, didn't go to this school because he 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.680 didn't like the shoes that they were wearing. I don't 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.840 know what this means for athletes down the road. It's 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.800 got to be above board. You got to pay taxes 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.359 on this, you know. Can you cap the income that 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.320 you're going to make. That's what I'm curious about more 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.360 than anything. I'm curious about how much money can you 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:04.000 make and can they cap that? Um. Tom Brady came 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:08.440 out and had some interesting comments. Now we only saw 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:14.640 the trailer for this, but he was talking. He's on 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.760 is that HBO's uh, what's the name of the show? 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.760 The shop? The shop is at with Lebron Yeah, okay, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.520 Rich Paul Yeah okay. So Brady's on there and there 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.320 there's an exchange there. I don't know the context of it, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.960 but this is when he was looking for another team 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.719 when he was leaving New England. And I don't know 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.960 who he's talking about, but he's reacting to a team 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.080 that's going to stick with its current quarterback. And here 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.840 is Brady's reaction one of the teams, and they weren't interested. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:51.400 At the very end, I was thinking, you're st okay, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:57.679 who could that be some good editing there? Yeah, Paulie, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.000 So now people are going down the list of the teams. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.040 I'm sure we're going to do right now. Yes, because 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.000 this is what nobody knew. Tom was interested in the 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.240 Chicago Bears. This made news when I reported it. You know, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.600 however long ago, that was because nobody ever had heard 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.240 that Tom was interested in Chicago. But you know, Brady 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:25.160 was running out of options, believe it or not, Chargers, Bears, Buccaneers. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.440 I know that he was interested in the Titans because 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.440 of Mike Vrabel. Now, I don't know if Mike Rabel 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.680 said I'm sticking with Ryan Tannehill. I don't know if 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.560 the Bears at the time said we're sticking with Mitch Traubisky. Now, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.880 was this San Francisco and they were going to stick 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:49.840 with Jimmy Garoppolo, Like all right, you know it gets 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.080 a little juicier there. Yeah, paul I'm gonna poo pooh 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.719 the Garoppolo. Woo. I don't think he would say that 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.919 about Jimmy. They at some level were co workers and 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.040 maybe friends, and I don't think Exceph he wanted him 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.280 out of New England. Yeah, except for that allegedly, thank 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:11.400 you see, I'm gonna poo the crop. Um. I don't 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.480 know if I'm gonna poop pooh the platter here. I 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:18.040 think that, Uh, you know, Tom is, he's so competitive, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.680 I could I could imagine him going, hey, I'll come here. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.559 You interested in me? No? No, no no, no, we're gonna 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:30.200 stick with Mitchell Trubisky. You're gonna stick with that you gonta? Why? Now? 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.520 Where were the other scenarios? It feels like Tennessee with 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.000 and we're just speculating here. I don't know what happened 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.600 with the Bears or any of these other other teams, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.160 but I would love to hear the next clip. I'm 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.720 hoping that who's ever asking the questions? Then followed up 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.680 by saying, oh, you can't leave us hanging, Tom, give 0:07:51.760 --> 0:08:00.520 us NFC AFC, AFC South. How about give us a 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.440 Jersey number? But that was that was kind of spicy 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.400 there for Tom. Tom's frisky man, get him out of 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.600 New England. That dude is frisky. Yeah, getting drunk on 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.560 the boat, throwing the Lombardi trophy around. I mean, you're 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:22.600 just having fun social media. He's dominating. Yeah, Polly, it's 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.200 like his midlife crisis. He's just he's airing all the 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:31.160 grievances going on shows. Playoff hockey. Peacock has live coverage 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.040 of Stanley Cup semifinals in final. Don't miss out stream 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.280 every game. Go to peacock tv dot com to sign up. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.120 Now my lightning last night put a beating on the 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.439 Islanders ate nothing eight mill, yes, Polly, how come in 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.360 hockey you never see the opposing team that gets blown 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.959 out complained that the other team piled on the score. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.880 I know there's not blowouts of eight zero hockey very often, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.559 but anything over five is a blowout. I didn't hear 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.320 the Islanders after the game saying, you know that you 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.040 can't be uh, you can't be taking shots, you know, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.480 I mean, come on, it's a five five nothing, you 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.400 can't be taking shots. Yeah, it does. That doesn't happen 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.200 in hockey. They're like, yeah, all right, put a beating 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:19.920 on us, man, we're coming back next game. They're hockey players, babies. Yeah, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.720 Nick clem. It's like swinging three oh swing three baseball 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:29.880 written rules because eight to nothing in hockey is about 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.600 fifty six to nothing in football. Okay, so each one's 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.000 a touchdown. Yeah, I'm gonna give you a touchdown. So 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.640 the lightning, your lightning should have pulled their goalie for 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.679 the last and just not replaced them with anybody. Yeah, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.360 you can't pull the goalie and then bring another a time, right, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.240 you just pull them him sitting for a while, get 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.600 some gatorade. But you don't hear hockey players, you know, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.880 lamenting the fact that you did a one timer there, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.240 You don't do that. That's the un Are there unwritten 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.520 rules on hockey? Because I know there's unwritten rules of baseball, 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.360 there's I don't know if there's unwritten rules on huh. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.080 I think like headshots when people go stick to the head, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.720 that's kind of where it crosses a line. No, they 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.600 have rules for that. There rules. They're written rules, but 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.800 they're enforced by the other guys. They have written rules 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.560 for that one. Yeah, I'm like gloves, but there's got 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.680 to be like a code like it's go time, Like 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:23.320 how do they know when to fight? Yeah, that's unwritten. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.840 I guess. I think there's just there's this premonition that 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.240 you go okay, all right, okay, ready, okay, and the feud. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.120 Let's play the feud. Yeah, I have a list hockey 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.360 unwritten rules. No sucker punches, the unwritten rules. When you 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.360 drop the gloves, you do it head on. You don't 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.760 come up from behind someone and sucker punch him. It's 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.440 like a drop the gloves. We're agreeing to fight now, Okay, 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.679 when the guy hits the ice, you stop punching him 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.320 when the other like, even if it's a good fight, 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.160 once he hits the ice, usually the rafts jump in. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.240 But is there anything about piling on the points scoring 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.960 goals here, PAULI, because because what you're saying, all right, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.000 unwritten rules, but that has to do with just fighting, right, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:10.120 there's nothing about embarrassing the opposition. Yeah, okay, the lightning 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.120 role they call him. Yeah, all right, some phone calls here, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.840 we'll talk to Jim Jackson. He'll join us. Coming up, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.600 Zack and Iowa, Hey, Zach, what's on your mind? Fellas? 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.760 How we're doing? Today is my last day of working 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.560 from home, so tomorrow I will actually have to sneak 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.800 in the DP show a little on the side, maybe 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.560 an airpot or something. But work doesn't totally love that. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.800 Two things. First of all, Dan, you should go to marketing. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:40.080 Can you imagine going down Tuscaloosa and there's a local 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.040 insurance company that runs an out of something along the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.320 lines of protect your Home Ado like the Boys in Crimson, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.280 and then it pans to the offensive line. Boom. That'd 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.760 be hilarious. Boom. Second thing, I kind of like the 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.440 idea of what the national the ANIL or whatever name, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.280 image and likeness. Do you think it could spread out 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.360 the talent across the country, not necessarily in areas like 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.680 Florida where there's no state income tax, but if you 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.520 could go be the third string quarterback, wait your time 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.719 in Alabama, or go to the school like Houston or 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.480 some other school where you can come in right away, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.000 you become the brand of the school. You can kind 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.960 of think of like being here in Iowa, Rock Purdy 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.200 had an opportunity to go to Abama, goes to Highways State. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.679 Obviously right now I can't catch in, but there'd probably 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.000 be somebody to pay him a pretty buck up here 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.280 been at the program for three years, coming on his 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:41.240 fourth year. I think could really yeah, you could really 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.880 spread out the talent, and especially like college basketball. You 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.960 think of a guy number thirty five in the country 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.520 going to Kentucky where he's going to be third, fourth option, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.280 or goes to another program and kind of again makes 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.800 his name for himself, gets paid. We'll shut up and listen, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.280 tom boys. Thank you, Zach, and good luck with your 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.160 job there. Yeah, this is it feels like the wild 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.680 wild West here of you know, who's going to be 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.280 able to allow their athletes to do this state by 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.920 state And I read down the list an hour ago 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.680 of the states and when they're going to allow these 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.120 athletes to be able to do this this name, image 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:26.400 and likeness, and yeah, could absolutely see an insurance company saying, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.320 you know what, we're here to protect you and you 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:36.880 just show the defensive linemen. The ideas are endless. Local restaurant, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.120 all you can eat, you got you know the lineman 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.960 there because you're your your star players. You know that 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:48.120 they're locally going to get paid because you're going to 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.800 be able to capitalize on them. Now to what degree, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.560 I don't know, but that's what I want to know. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.560 Is it going to be capped? That's what I'm really 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.679 curious about. If they say, hey, you can only make 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:04.480 fifty thousand dollars. That's probably not going to change college athletics. Yeah, mclub. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.480 It's amazing for a player like Brock Purty, who's been 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.800 playing since the nineties to be here for this. How 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.319 is that guy still in school? That's Seaton's quarterback. By 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.120 the way, yep, yep, Seaton had him for Heisman the 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.080 last five years. I think he finished like third demand 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.240 Zell in the Heisman voting. 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In fact, even the broadcasters for the Brewers said, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.800 this is embarrassing, but you did finish. I did. I 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:24.600 was passed that. But that had to be the worst 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.280 last place finishing the history of the sausage race. I 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.280 can't imagine anyone did that any slower than me. It 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.440 was a lot of fun and we got some mileage 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.600 out of that, and they didn't ask us to come back. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.760 So Todd threw out the first pitch and I said, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.640 you have to go out there with no sleeves. On 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.160 showed the guns and you had to go pro. On 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:50.000 had like a medium white under armed shirt that I 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.320 should no business wearing that size, just showing up way 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.360 too much waste. Yeah, but you're a man, Candy. I 0:16:55.360 --> 0:17:00.880 mean that's what we were. You know, we're put ar sneakers. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.600 That's what the ladies wanted to see. There. Used to 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.000 be a baseball player Ted Klazuski played for the Cincinnati Reds. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.920 He had cut off sleeves, He had big guns and 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.320 played for the Cincinnati Reds. Yeah, they allowed him to 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.840 wear cut off season the game. Yeah, he just had 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.159 like it looked like a vest, like a vest and 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.720 gun show. Yeah, it was the Gun Show. Absolutely, they 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.719 should do that now, guys would love it. We had 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.000 Rex Chapman on last hour and I said, hey, we 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.400 got Jim Jackson coming on in final. How he goes, Yeah, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.520 I think Jim put fifty on me. So Jim was 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.679 on the call for Game seven between the Hawks and 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.199 seventy six ers on Sunday night, and Jim joins us. Now, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.560 do you remember putting fifty up on Rex Chapman? Jim, Uh, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.120 not quite fifty maybe forty four. Oh, so you remembered 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.440 her exactly forty four? Well, you know what, I don't. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.520 I don't know if he was. Rex might have been 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.639 on that. It was that's when they were the Washington Bullets. Okay, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.000 when we were we played them. Actually, as I dan 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.919 it said, night before I tore my ankle up when 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.000 we went to Jersey. But I think Rex was on 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.760 that Washington team when that went down A little bit 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:18.040 was a little bit? Was he guarding you? Evidently not? Now. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.640 Rex said that he looked forward to facing Vinnie del 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.840 Negro because he knew he'd probably have a little easier night. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.920 Who did you, who did you look forward to? Where 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.399 you just went, oh, I gotta circle that on the calendar. Uh, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.800 you know, i'mnna be honest with you, man. It was 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.399 during that time I had the ball so much. It 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.919 really didn't matter because I was always going to have 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.119 a ball now I had. It was tough two guards 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.040 at the time to play against. Rex was one of them, 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.200 Mitch Richmond, Reggie Miller. Michael was out of the league 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.840 right when I got in because he retired, um Clyde Drexeler. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.880 It wasn't It never was an easy night, I would say, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.480 in the league at that time because Dan, if you remember, centers, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:04.119 two guards and probably power forwards where your meat of 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.560 your team. So it was never a guarding Rex was 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.560 hard because Rex ran off a lot of screens that 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.119 chase him around the whole night. You know, that was 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:17.240 extremely difficult. How would your game be now if you 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.840 were playing It's a great question. You know, it'd be 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.359 totally different. You know. Alonzo Mourning right, good friend of mine. Right, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.200 He said, Jimmy, you know if I played this era, 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:28.960 you know I would dominate, that would do I said, no, 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.359 you wouldn't. He said, what you mean? I said, because 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.840 not that you couldn't. You would be talented, I said, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.879 but at the age of eleven to twelve, you wouldn't 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.440 be posted up on the block. You'll be picking pop 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.520 three point shooter, handling the ball, So you'll be a 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.960 totally different player. And I would be a totally different 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.119 player because I was a post guard that stayed in 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.720 the paint mid range. I got my three point ball 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.680 later after my injury, but I would be a totally 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.720 different player just based upon how kids grew up and 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.440 played the game than I was when I played. Rex 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.359 Chapman brought up the comparison to Ben Simmons, and he 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:07.760 said Jason Kidd because Jason through most of his career 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.919 wasn't a good shooter, didn't want to take the shot. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.320 And Rex said that they would get mad at him 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.560 and say, you gotta at least take shots. So we're 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:17.720 not double team when we you know we come off 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.000 a pick, your man is going to double team is 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.960 and you know, I know we're all trying to be 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.600 therapist here and psychiatrist with with Ben Simmons. I don't 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.720 know if this is a simple fix. Jim, what would 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.919 you do if if Ben is if you took him 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.919 under your wing. You know, first I mean, that's a 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.320 great comparison with Jay Kidd. I didn't think about that, 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.640 but the difference with Jason. Jason wasn't afraid to attack 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.280 and still get to the basket, even though he struggled 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.160 sometimes at the free throw line. Early on. Jay would 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.360 never side back away from attacking, and Ben's still making 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.639 a play. Ben would not. Now we had to implore 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.840 Jason to shoot too early in his career, but that 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.800 turned out to be great him. I mean later on, 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.120 and then it's hard to get into somebody's mind. You've 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.399 been around the game, games and professional sports enough to 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.959 know that until a person wants to seek help, you 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.320 can't help him. Okay, if you're still telling yourself in 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.200 the mirror and you look at yourself and say it, 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.639 I really don't need help. I can solve it. There's 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.680 nothing that advice we can do. Look entertain the entertainer 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.959 had it when they have stage fright. Okay, people who 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.080 are public speaking, Okay, they can be great in front 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.520 of a small audience, but get him into a bigger 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.800 audience and more people, they don't perform as well. So 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.480 it's not just a sports thing, it's a psyche thing. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.040 And until that individual says I need and will accept 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.359 some kind of help. It's really nothing you can do 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.440 about it. But can you change his form? Like at 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.320 this age he's going to be twenty five in a 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.919 couple of weeks. But it's nothing. But he has good form. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.679 That's the that's the killer part. Then it's not like 0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.159 he goes up there and he has a hitchen and 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.800 shot okay. But he has a good form. But it's 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.520 like this, it's a guy that goes and puts in 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.959 the world. Ben Simmons works on his game. People say, well, 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.360 he should go and work shoot all these free throw 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.359 He does that. Sam Casselle, we were going out to 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.320 dinner in Philadelphia during the he was Game two. He's like, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:18.720 I can't go. I got to go to the gym 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.840 with Ben seven o'clock at night and shoot free throw. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.399 It's not that he doesn't work on it, not that 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.360 his form is not there. Is that when he gets 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.240 in the game and doesn't have immediate this is just 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.840 me immediate results, all of that goes out the window. 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:34.919 All of that work you put in is left on 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.120 the practice court. And that's the different look at Mark Hill. Folks. Now, 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.080 remember the Trump struggles Mark Hill faults had in Philadelphia. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.160