Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour. On this Tuesday, we'll check in
Speaker 1: with the Great Jim Jackson, Turner's Sports NBA analyst. He
Speaker 1: got Game two coming up tonight, but once again, no
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, no Kawhi Leonard. I think we'll see Chris
Speaker 1: Paul in this series. I don't know if we're going
Speaker 1: to see Kawhi, but no updates right now. He's in
Speaker 1: COVID protocol right now. And there have been conflicting reports
Speaker 1: on Chris Paul that asymptomatic. Another report with Yahoo Sports
Speaker 1: says that or the Arizona Republic said that he is
Speaker 1: suffering from a fever but out with Game two coming
Speaker 1: up tonight and Kawhi Leonard, there's no time frame given
Speaker 1: on his knee issues. There eight seven seven three D
Speaker 1: P show email ADDRESSDP at Dan Patrick dot com Twitter
Speaker 1: handled a DP show. By the way, the meeting to
Speaker 1: decide on a twelve team playoff is expected to be
Speaker 1: voted on today and the timing, well, it's probably not
Speaker 1: great timing because this coming off of the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: you know Justice Cavanaugh basically saying to the NCAA, you're
Speaker 1: running a monopoly here, you know, anti trust and giving
Speaker 1: the athletes their name, image and likeness. Now it's state
Speaker 1: by state where you're going to be able to benefit
Speaker 1: off of your name, image and likeness. And you're going
Speaker 1: to have this juxtaposed to the NCAA going we're gonna
Speaker 1: make even more billions. We got a twelve team playoff here.
Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls coming up, update the poll results. Mclovin.
Speaker 1: If you can okay as you expected it to run away,
Speaker 1: if you can make either of these happen today, pay
Speaker 1: athletes or have a twelve team playoff, Which would you choose?
Speaker 1: Seventy eight percent? What the twelve team playoff? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I understand there's certain people who do care about the
Speaker 1: athletes getting paid or they shouldn't get paid. They're getting
Speaker 1: paid with a scholarship. There are students who are on
Speaker 1: scholarship who are to go out and make money while
Speaker 1: on scholarship, but an athlete is not allowed to. And
Speaker 1: this is going to change, whether you like it or not,
Speaker 1: whether the NCAA likes it or not, it's happening, and
Speaker 1: it's happening a lot sooner than you think. This has
Speaker 1: been going on for quite some time, and the NCAA
Speaker 1: could have probably embraced it a little more. Well, anything
Speaker 1: would have been more than what they're doing. But can
Speaker 1: you delay it? That's what the NCAA is trying to do.
Speaker 1: Can you delay this? Can we can we keep the
Speaker 1: money for five more years. First of all, the NCAA
Speaker 1: is not writing checks to the student athletes. Not This
Speaker 1: is for you know, other departments in the school. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, other athletic programs. Make sure that that you
Speaker 1: keep them afloat. This is about an athlete being able
Speaker 1: to cash in on name, image and likeness. Now McLevin
Speaker 1: said that you can't have a shoe deal. Let's say,
Speaker 1: and I keep mentioning Spencer Atler. He's the Oklahoma quarterback
Speaker 1: and probably one of the front runners for the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 1: Can you, under the name, image and likeness laws mclovin,
Speaker 1: have a shoe deal that is different than what the
Speaker 1: school has now, I remember this. When nil first came up,
Speaker 1: we had a guest who told us the shoe companies
Speaker 1: are carved out because all the rules are written in
Speaker 1: the States to protect the schools from having a conflicting sponsor.
Speaker 1: So if a school is a Nike school. You can't
Speaker 1: have your players out there wearing Adidas. Okay, we wondered
Speaker 1: if Zion Williamson was happening now, and let's say Adidas
Speaker 1: wanted to give him a million dollars in his own shoe.
Speaker 1: Could they do that? You glob But scene had a
Speaker 1: good point, like, isn't this a pipeline where he goes
Speaker 1: he goes to Duke and then Nike says we'll take
Speaker 1: care of you when you get to the NBA, or
Speaker 1: not take care of you, but we'll sign you. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have athlete to go to an Adidas school or
Speaker 1: a Nike school because you're in the feeders system when
Speaker 1: you're in high school, AAU schools, and then you get
Speaker 1: funneled into those schools. Now, the Marquis players can pick
Speaker 1: and choose where they want to go. But I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Sonny Vicarrow, the man who basically created this
Speaker 1: blueprint for college basketball with these coaches and signed Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: He said that he knew of Marquis players who didn't
Speaker 1: want to go to a school first based off the
Speaker 1: color of the uniforms. And another star player didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to a school because they were an Adidas
Speaker 1: school and he wanted to wear nikes. And that's the
Speaker 1: reason why this player, who was a well known player,
Speaker 1: semi famous player, didn't go to this school because he
Speaker 1: didn't like the shoes that they were wearing. I don't
Speaker 1: know what this means for athletes down the road. It's
Speaker 1: got to be above board. You got to pay taxes
Speaker 1: on this, you know. Can you cap the income that
Speaker 1: you're going to make. That's what I'm curious about more
Speaker 1: than anything. I'm curious about how much money can you
Speaker 1: make and can they cap that? Um. Tom Brady came
Speaker 1: out and had some interesting comments. Now we only saw
Speaker 1: the trailer for this, but he was talking. He's on
Speaker 1: is that HBO's uh, what's the name of the show?
Speaker 1: The shop? The shop is at with Lebron Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Rich Paul Yeah okay. So Brady's on there and there
Speaker 1: there's an exchange there. I don't know the context of it,
Speaker 1: but this is when he was looking for another team
Speaker 1: when he was leaving New England. And I don't know
Speaker 1: who he's talking about, but he's reacting to a team
Speaker 1: that's going to stick with its current quarterback. And here
Speaker 1: is Brady's reaction one of the teams, and they weren't interested.
Speaker 1: At the very end, I was thinking, you're st okay,
Speaker 1: who could that be some good editing there? Yeah, Paulie,
Speaker 1: So now people are going down the list of the teams.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to do right now. Yes, because
Speaker 1: this is what nobody knew. Tom was interested in the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. This made news when I reported it. You know,
Speaker 1: however long ago, that was because nobody ever had heard
Speaker 1: that Tom was interested in Chicago. But you know, Brady
Speaker 1: was running out of options, believe it or not, Chargers, Bears, Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: I know that he was interested in the Titans because
Speaker 1: of Mike Vrabel. Now, I don't know if Mike Rabel
Speaker 1: said I'm sticking with Ryan Tannehill. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Bears at the time said we're sticking with Mitch Traubisky. Now,
Speaker 1: was this San Francisco and they were going to stick
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo, Like all right, you know it gets
Speaker 1: a little juicier there. Yeah, paul I'm gonna poo pooh
Speaker 1: the Garoppolo. Woo. I don't think he would say that
Speaker 1: about Jimmy. They at some level were co workers and
Speaker 1: maybe friends, and I don't think Exceph he wanted him
Speaker 1: out of New England. Yeah, except for that allegedly, thank
Speaker 1: you see, I'm gonna poo the crop. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna poop pooh the platter here. I
Speaker 1: think that, Uh, you know, Tom is, he's so competitive,
Speaker 1: I could I could imagine him going, hey, I'll come here.
Speaker 1: You interested in me? No? No, no no, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: stick with Mitchell Trubisky. You're gonna stick with that you gonta? Why? Now?
Speaker 1: Where were the other scenarios? It feels like Tennessee with
Speaker 1: and we're just speculating here. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: with the Bears or any of these other other teams,
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear the next clip. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that who's ever asking the questions? Then followed up
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, you can't leave us hanging, Tom, give
Speaker 1: us NFC AFC, AFC South. How about give us a
Speaker 1: Jersey number? But that was that was kind of spicy
Speaker 1: there for Tom. Tom's frisky man, get him out of
Speaker 1: New England. That dude is frisky. Yeah, getting drunk on
Speaker 1: the boat, throwing the Lombardi trophy around. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: just having fun social media. He's dominating. Yeah, Polly, it's
Speaker 1: like his midlife crisis. He's just he's airing all the
Speaker 1: grievances going on shows. Playoff hockey. Peacock has live coverage
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Speaker 1: Now my lightning last night put a beating on the
Speaker 1: Islanders ate nothing eight mill, yes, Polly, how come in
Speaker 1: hockey you never see the opposing team that gets blown
Speaker 1: out complained that the other team piled on the score.
Speaker 1: I know there's not blowouts of eight zero hockey very often,
Speaker 1: but anything over five is a blowout. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: the Islanders after the game saying, you know that you
Speaker 1: can't be uh, you can't be taking shots, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's a five five nothing, you
Speaker 1: can't be taking shots. Yeah, it does. That doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in hockey. They're like, yeah, all right, put a beating
Speaker 1: on us, man, we're coming back next game. They're hockey players, babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick clem. It's like swinging three oh swing three baseball
Speaker 1: written rules because eight to nothing in hockey is about
Speaker 1: fifty six to nothing in football. Okay, so each one's
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Yeah, I'm gonna give you a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: the lightning, your lightning should have pulled their goalie for
Speaker 1: the last and just not replaced them with anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't pull the goalie and then bring another a time, right,
Speaker 1: you just pull them him sitting for a while, get
Speaker 1: some gatorade. But you don't hear hockey players, you know,
Speaker 1: lamenting the fact that you did a one timer there,
Speaker 1: You don't do that. That's the un Are there unwritten
Speaker 1: rules on hockey? Because I know there's unwritten rules of baseball,
Speaker 1: there's I don't know if there's unwritten rules on huh.
Speaker 1: I think like headshots when people go stick to the head,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where it crosses a line. No, they
Speaker 1: have rules for that. There rules. They're written rules, but
Speaker 1: they're enforced by the other guys. They have written rules
Speaker 1: for that one. Yeah, I'm like gloves, but there's got
Speaker 1: to be like a code like it's go time, Like
Speaker 1: how do they know when to fight? Yeah, that's unwritten.
Speaker 1: I guess. I think there's just there's this premonition that
Speaker 1: you go okay, all right, okay, ready, okay, and the feud.
Speaker 1: Let's play the feud. Yeah, I have a list hockey
Speaker 1: unwritten rules. No sucker punches, the unwritten rules. When you
Speaker 1: drop the gloves, you do it head on. You don't
Speaker 1: come up from behind someone and sucker punch him. It's
Speaker 1: like a drop the gloves. We're agreeing to fight now, Okay,
Speaker 1: when the guy hits the ice, you stop punching him
Speaker 1: when the other like, even if it's a good fight,
Speaker 1: once he hits the ice, usually the rafts jump in.
Speaker 1: But is there anything about piling on the points scoring
Speaker 1: goals here, PAULI, because because what you're saying, all right,
Speaker 1: unwritten rules, but that has to do with just fighting, right,
Speaker 1: there's nothing about embarrassing the opposition. Yeah, okay, the lightning
Speaker 1: role they call him. Yeah, all right, some phone calls here,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Jim Jackson. He'll join us. Coming up,
Speaker 1: Zack and Iowa, Hey, Zach, what's on your mind? Fellas?
Speaker 1: How we're doing? Today is my last day of working
Speaker 1: from home, so tomorrow I will actually have to sneak
Speaker 1: in the DP show a little on the side, maybe
Speaker 1: an airpot or something. But work doesn't totally love that.
Speaker 1: Two things. First of all, Dan, you should go to marketing.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine going down Tuscaloosa and there's a local
Speaker 1: insurance company that runs an out of something along the
Speaker 1: lines of protect your Home Ado like the Boys in Crimson,
Speaker 1: and then it pans to the offensive line. Boom. That'd
Speaker 1: be hilarious. Boom. Second thing, I kind of like the
Speaker 1: idea of what the national the ANIL or whatever name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness. Do you think it could spread out
Speaker 1: the talent across the country, not necessarily in areas like
Speaker 1: Florida where there's no state income tax, but if you
Speaker 1: could go be the third string quarterback, wait your time
Speaker 1: in Alabama, or go to the school like Houston or
Speaker 1: some other school where you can come in right away,
Speaker 1: you become the brand of the school. You can kind
Speaker 1: of think of like being here in Iowa, Rock Purdy
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go to Abama, goes to Highways State.
Speaker 1: Obviously right now I can't catch in, but there'd probably
Speaker 1: be somebody to pay him a pretty buck up here
Speaker 1: been at the program for three years, coming on his
Speaker 1: fourth year. I think could really yeah, you could really
Speaker 1: spread out the talent, and especially like college basketball. You
Speaker 1: think of a guy number thirty five in the country
Speaker 1: going to Kentucky where he's going to be third, fourth option,
Speaker 1: or goes to another program and kind of again makes
Speaker 1: his name for himself, gets paid. We'll shut up and listen,
Speaker 1: tom boys. Thank you, Zach, and good luck with your
Speaker 1: job there. Yeah, this is it feels like the wild
Speaker 1: wild West here of you know, who's going to be
Speaker 1: able to allow their athletes to do this state by
Speaker 1: state And I read down the list an hour ago
Speaker 1: of the states and when they're going to allow these
Speaker 1: athletes to be able to do this this name, image
Speaker 1: and likeness, and yeah, could absolutely see an insurance company saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're here to protect you and you
Speaker 1: just show the defensive linemen. The ideas are endless. Local restaurant,
Speaker 1: all you can eat, you got you know the lineman
Speaker 1: there because you're your your star players. You know that
Speaker 1: they're locally going to get paid because you're going to
Speaker 1: be able to capitalize on them. Now to what degree,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be capped? That's what I'm really
Speaker 1: curious about. If they say, hey, you can only make
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. That's probably not going to change college athletics. Yeah, mclub.
Speaker 1: It's amazing for a player like Brock Purty, who's been
Speaker 1: playing since the nineties to be here for this. How
Speaker 1: is that guy still in school? That's Seaton's quarterback. By
Speaker 1: the way, yep, yep, Seaton had him for Heisman the
Speaker 1: last five years. I think he finished like third demand
Speaker 1: Zell in the Heisman voting. It wasn't far off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me take a break here. More phone calls coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll talk some hoops with Jim Jackson, Lindsay expect Chris
Speaker 1: Paul back and what about Kawhi Leonard? How that impacts
Speaker 1: this series here, it's coming up on sixteen after the hour.
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Speaker 1: break this day and show history. We were in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: at the Brewers game and took part in the sausage
Speaker 1: races there. Mclovin ended up winning Todd finished m d
Speaker 1: f L. In fact, even the broadcasters for the Brewers said,
Speaker 1: this is embarrassing, but you did finish. I did. I
Speaker 1: was passed that. But that had to be the worst
Speaker 1: last place finishing the history of the sausage race. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine anyone did that any slower than me. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun and we got some mileage
Speaker 1: out of that, and they didn't ask us to come back.
Speaker 1: So Todd threw out the first pitch and I said,
Speaker 1: you have to go out there with no sleeves. On
Speaker 1: showed the guns and you had to go pro. On
Speaker 1: had like a medium white under armed shirt that I
Speaker 1: should no business wearing that size, just showing up way
Speaker 1: too much waste. Yeah, but you're a man, Candy. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what we were. You know, we're put ar sneakers.
Speaker 1: That's what the ladies wanted to see. There. Used to
Speaker 1: be a baseball player Ted Klazuski played for the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 1: He had cut off sleeves, He had big guns and
Speaker 1: played for the Cincinnati Reds. Yeah, they allowed him to
Speaker 1: wear cut off season the game. Yeah, he just had
Speaker 1: like it looked like a vest, like a vest and
Speaker 1: gun show. Yeah, it was the Gun Show. Absolutely, they
Speaker 1: should do that now, guys would love it. We had
Speaker 1: Rex Chapman on last hour and I said, hey, we
Speaker 1: got Jim Jackson coming on in final. How he goes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jim put fifty on me. So Jim was
Speaker 1: on the call for Game seven between the Hawks and
Speaker 1: seventy six ers on Sunday night, and Jim joins us. Now,
Speaker 1: do you remember putting fifty up on Rex Chapman? Jim, Uh,
Speaker 1: not quite fifty maybe forty four. Oh, so you remembered
Speaker 1: her exactly forty four? Well, you know what, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was. Rex might have been
Speaker 1: on that. It was that's when they were the Washington Bullets. Okay,
Speaker 1: when we were we played them. Actually, as I dan
Speaker 1: it said, night before I tore my ankle up when
Speaker 1: we went to Jersey. But I think Rex was on
Speaker 1: that Washington team when that went down A little bit
Speaker 1: was a little bit? Was he guarding you? Evidently not? Now.
Speaker 1: Rex said that he looked forward to facing Vinnie del
Speaker 1: Negro because he knew he'd probably have a little easier night.
Speaker 1: Who did you, who did you look forward to? Where
Speaker 1: you just went, oh, I gotta circle that on the calendar. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, i'mnna be honest with you, man. It was
Speaker 1: during that time I had the ball so much. It
Speaker 1: really didn't matter because I was always going to have
Speaker 1: a ball now I had. It was tough two guards
Speaker 1: at the time to play against. Rex was one of them,
Speaker 1: Mitch Richmond, Reggie Miller. Michael was out of the league
Speaker 1: right when I got in because he retired, um Clyde Drexeler.
Speaker 1: It wasn't It never was an easy night, I would say,
Speaker 1: in the league at that time because Dan, if you remember, centers,
Speaker 1: two guards and probably power forwards where your meat of
Speaker 1: your team. So it was never a guarding Rex was
Speaker 1: hard because Rex ran off a lot of screens that
Speaker 1: chase him around the whole night. You know, that was
Speaker 1: extremely difficult. How would your game be now if you
Speaker 1: were playing It's a great question. You know, it'd be
Speaker 1: totally different. You know. Alonzo Mourning right, good friend of mine. Right,
Speaker 1: He said, Jimmy, you know if I played this era,
Speaker 1: you know I would dominate, that would do I said, no,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. He said, what you mean? I said, because
Speaker 1: not that you couldn't. You would be talented, I said,
Speaker 1: but at the age of eleven to twelve, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be posted up on the block. You'll be picking pop
Speaker 1: three point shooter, handling the ball, So you'll be a
Speaker 1: totally different player. And I would be a totally different
Speaker 1: player because I was a post guard that stayed in
Speaker 1: the paint mid range. I got my three point ball
Speaker 1: later after my injury, but I would be a totally
Speaker 1: different player just based upon how kids grew up and
Speaker 1: played the game than I was when I played. Rex
Speaker 1: Chapman brought up the comparison to Ben Simmons, and he
Speaker 1: said Jason Kidd because Jason through most of his career
Speaker 1: wasn't a good shooter, didn't want to take the shot.
Speaker 1: And Rex said that they would get mad at him
Speaker 1: and say, you gotta at least take shots. So we're
Speaker 1: not double team when we you know we come off
Speaker 1: a pick, your man is going to double team is
Speaker 1: and you know, I know we're all trying to be
Speaker 1: therapist here and psychiatrist with with Ben Simmons. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is a simple fix. Jim, what would
Speaker 1: you do if if Ben is if you took him
Speaker 1: under your wing. You know, first I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: great comparison with Jay Kidd. I didn't think about that,
Speaker 1: but the difference with Jason. Jason wasn't afraid to attack
Speaker 1: and still get to the basket, even though he struggled
Speaker 1: sometimes at the free throw line. Early on. Jay would
Speaker 1: never side back away from attacking, and Ben's still making
Speaker 1: a play. Ben would not. Now we had to implore
Speaker 1: Jason to shoot too early in his career, but that
Speaker 1: turned out to be great him. I mean later on,
Speaker 1: and then it's hard to get into somebody's mind. You've
Speaker 1: been around the game, games and professional sports enough to
Speaker 1: know that until a person wants to seek help, you
Speaker 1: can't help him. Okay, if you're still telling yourself in
Speaker 1: the mirror and you look at yourself and say it,
Speaker 1: I really don't need help. I can solve it. There's
Speaker 1: nothing that advice we can do. Look entertain the entertainer
Speaker 1: had it when they have stage fright. Okay, people who
Speaker 1: are public speaking, Okay, they can be great in front
Speaker 1: of a small audience, but get him into a bigger
Speaker 1: audience and more people, they don't perform as well. So
Speaker 1: it's not just a sports thing, it's a psyche thing.
Speaker 1: And until that individual says I need and will accept
Speaker 1: some kind of help. It's really nothing you can do
Speaker 1: about it. But can you change his form? Like at
Speaker 1: this age he's going to be twenty five in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But it's nothing. But he has good form.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the killer part. Then it's not like
Speaker 1: he goes up there and he has a hitchen and
Speaker 1: shot okay. But he has a good form. But it's
Speaker 1: like this, it's a guy that goes and puts in
Speaker 1: the world. Ben Simmons works on his game. People say, well,
Speaker 1: he should go and work shoot all these free throw
Speaker 1: He does that. Sam Casselle, we were going out to
Speaker 1: dinner in Philadelphia during the he was Game two. He's like,
Speaker 1: I can't go. I got to go to the gym
Speaker 1: with Ben seven o'clock at night and shoot free throw.
Speaker 1: It's not that he doesn't work on it, not that
Speaker 1: his form is not there. Is that when he gets
Speaker 1: in the game and doesn't have immediate this is just
Speaker 1: me immediate results, all of that goes out the window.
Speaker 1: All of that work you put in is left on
Speaker 1: the practice court. And that's the different look at Mark Hill. Folks. Now,
Speaker 1: remember the Trump struggles Mark Hill faults had in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe a change of zip code helps Mark Heale.
Speaker 1: Folks got out of Philly and now his game has
Speaker 1: trended upward mentally, he's in a better place. And I'm
Speaker 1: not blaming it all on Philly, but sometimes you need
Speaker 1: to be removed out of a situation that's not as
Speaker 1: comfortable in order for you to get out of the
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation you're in. Yeah. I maintain that if you
Speaker 1: do trade him, you're not going to get dollar for dollar.
Speaker 1: But maybe he goes to a team that doesn't have
Speaker 1: the expectations the seventy six ers had when Joe l
Speaker 1: Embiad is out of their gym. He Ben Ben feels like,
Speaker 1: looks like plays like a different player. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: totally different. I mean he attacks differently. And I don't
Speaker 1: know too, is if it's one of those things, damn
Speaker 1: where he's comfortable being Robin. You know, with Joel Embid
Speaker 1: the pressure is more on MB but he don't understand
Speaker 1: the pressure is on him too. But you made a
Speaker 1: point and I said this, you know before, when Embat
Speaker 1: is out, I mean out, like DNP is going to
Speaker 1: be out a few games Ben's game is totally different.
Speaker 1: His mentality is totally different. So which tells us that
Speaker 1: if he's in a situation maybe in another franchise, that's
Speaker 1: maybe the mentality that he has, you know, ninety the
Speaker 1: time that he's on the court. I got more concerns
Speaker 1: with the Greek Freak than I do Ben Simmons at
Speaker 1: the line. The Greek Freak can't pull the trigger. He
Speaker 1: shoots air balls. He doesn't have good form. That's a
Speaker 1: bigger concern. But he's a better player than Ben, and
Speaker 1: we sort of whitewash the other stuff. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best players in the game. He's shooting air balls.
Speaker 1: Jim from the free throw line. Yeah, but you but
Speaker 1: you know what, let me say that Karl Malone came
Speaker 1: into the league and he was, like in the mid
Speaker 1: forties free throw shooter. Yeah, ended up probably over his trier.
Speaker 1: In the mid seventies. Tim Duncan wasn't a great free
Speaker 1: throw shoot coming into the league, but they worked on it.
Speaker 1: I think I love about Greek is this. You can
Speaker 1: get on him about shooting the threes, you can get
Speaker 1: on them, but the free throws. But at least he's
Speaker 1: up there. He doesn't leave it on the practice court
Speaker 1: like Ben does at times. He's not a free to
Speaker 1: go and get filed. Okay, guys, feed all for that
Speaker 1: on your team. Keep think about that too. There's some
Speaker 1: guys that shot air balls before they're a great free
Speaker 1: throw shoot. Now, maybe not as many as Yannis has
Speaker 1: in his career, but I'm not mad at Yannis because
Speaker 1: at least Giannis has a confidence to take the shot,
Speaker 1: to get to the basket and lay game situations at times,
Speaker 1: and not afraid to be at the free thrower. I
Speaker 1: think he would become a better free throw shooter, meaning
Speaker 1: you know, low seventies. I think he will because he
Speaker 1: works at it. He believes. More importantly, Dan, he believes
Speaker 1: that he can become a better free throw shoot. We're
Speaker 1: talking to Jim Jackson Fox and Turner Sports NBA analyst.
Speaker 1: He was on the call game seven Hawks in the
Speaker 1: seventy six ers on Sunday Night. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: this name, image and likeness for college athletes, that it's happening,
Speaker 1: it's coming our way. But imagine you're going into college
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. You're a big deal. You know, you
Speaker 1: could have cashed in probably a big time right locally. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, and it's it's about time. And we've
Speaker 1: got to keep in mind too, it's not like every
Speaker 1: player benefits the same because it's really you know, your
Speaker 1: most popular players are the ones are going to sell
Speaker 1: a lot of journey. You're in a fifty two man roster,
Speaker 1: fifty five mile roster football. I mean, but you gotta
Speaker 1: have maybe five or sixty guys that really benefit from it.
Speaker 1: I mean, big time benefit that that the university pumps up.
Speaker 1: But still it's something now I know a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches aren't, you know, in between, because it's a recruiting
Speaker 1: advantage in regards to some aspects. Some schools have a
Speaker 1: bigger alumni base, a bigger TV deal, a bigger this,
Speaker 1: and they're going to use that to say, well, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if you come to our university, endorsement wise,
Speaker 1: you're able to pick up X amount of dollars, which
Speaker 1: is true, but it's still to the benefit of the
Speaker 1: of the student athlete, whether that's male or female. Uh
Speaker 1: Rex said that he was offered five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: annuity that his they were going to put it in
Speaker 1: escro at school. He didn't say who it was, but
Speaker 1: he said that he was offered that through his parents.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest offer you guy, right, Tommy's pizza,
Speaker 1: Tommy's pizza. Broa, You didn't get anything, No, you were
Speaker 1: a big dean. If somebody got something, yeah, but I did,
Speaker 1: if somebody. But we didn't play that when I came
Speaker 1: out at my parents. In the group that I was
Speaker 1: with coming out of high school, we just didn't go
Speaker 1: down that road. We just we never did. My father
Speaker 1: was one like this, look, if you take something from somebody,
Speaker 1: that means you owe him something. So I figured something. Dan.
Speaker 1: I worked all the way through high school. I was
Speaker 1: a caddy. I cleaned cars. I worked at my grade
Speaker 1: school mopping floors, waxing floors, always had a job when
Speaker 1: I was in college for two years. I worked at
Speaker 1: Dean Winner in the summer for two years, and I
Speaker 1: so furniture or a Value City my junior year in
Speaker 1: the summer. Can imagine me coming up saying, Okay, you
Speaker 1: want to get some Scotch darn for your sofa, so
Speaker 1: I can upsell, so I can upsell you to get
Speaker 1: more money. Okay, d let me tell you a story. Dad.
Speaker 1: He was summertime in July, a tin sale outside on
Speaker 1: Morris Roll. How does all hell get out? And I'm
Speaker 1: out there trying to sell a sofa? Okay, but it's
Speaker 1: because my father and my parents taught me that it's you,
Speaker 1: you go get it. You don't have to owe anybody anything.
Speaker 1: So I feel good about myself getting that easily. Check
Speaker 1: that I didn't have to worry about looking over my
Speaker 1: shoulder because I didn't take anything from anybody. Now I
Speaker 1: got some free food. You know, people would take care
Speaker 1: of me and do that kind of stuff. But as
Speaker 1: far as like green backs, no, brom were you any
Speaker 1: good and selling? Well, I'm gonna tell you what. It's
Speaker 1: a competitive business because hey, you noticed when people walk
Speaker 1: in the doors to salesperson that jumps up on you
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, that's because you got a percentage of Say,
Speaker 1: you weren't on salary, bro, you had to sell. You
Speaker 1: had to kill what you eat. Okay. And man, they
Speaker 1: saw me in there, they was like, I don't care,
Speaker 1: this young kid is not taking my business away. It
Speaker 1: was tough, bro, Yeah, but you had an advantage. You
Speaker 1: were a big deal. You're a name. Hey, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. The looks I got from some of
Speaker 1: those salesmen. All right, I'm telling you, bro, they were listen.
Speaker 1: I was there temporarily. That was their livety. You think
Speaker 1: they were gonna let me outshine them this because I
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Jackson. No, Bro, No, it wasn't happening. It's
Speaker 1: a great experience. Though. Do you think Kwie Leonard plays
Speaker 1: in this series? I hope he does. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, I covered the Trippers all year,
Speaker 1: so they kind of keeping quiet kind of what they
Speaker 1: extent of the injury is, and if they feel that
Speaker 1: they can get away, but you know how it is,
Speaker 1: then a couple of games they can win in Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and now the home course shifts back to the clips,
Speaker 1: they go home, maybe they split. It still gives Kawhi
Speaker 1: time enough to get back instead of rushing it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Paul George has been phenomenal. Yeah, I mean, I'm unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so happy for him. Now, the story
Speaker 1: has not written story, the chapter is not closed. But
Speaker 1: all year, Dan, I've been saying that Paul has just
Speaker 1: been focused. He hasn't said a lot, He's letting his
Speaker 1: game do it talking. And right now he's stepping up
Speaker 1: big time. Man. Yeah, I don't know if Kawhi plays,
Speaker 1: I know, I really don't, like you know, I expect
Speaker 1: Chris Paul back, you know, probably when the series goes
Speaker 1: back to LA. He's quarantining in Los Angeles and would
Speaker 1: probably be able to come back, but without you know
Speaker 1: what's crazy, Dan, You know what's crazy is that people
Speaker 1: talk about the injuries right the injuries. We were doing
Speaker 1: a thing on it that the number of injuries are
Speaker 1: not that much higher or lower than the normal year.
Speaker 1: It's just markeys. It's just the Marquee names right now.
Speaker 1: That's drawing all the attention, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's it's tough for the league too, because you
Speaker 1: want your guys, your key guys playing at end of
Speaker 1: the year, and injuries are all a part of it.
Speaker 1: But it's just unfortunate that we had the rash of
Speaker 1: Marquee injuries in the playoffs and Anthony Davis and Murray's
Speaker 1: you know now to Kauaids, you know, stuff like that
Speaker 1: that you I mean, you know, with hard and going
Speaker 1: out and what that Brooklyn team with Kyrie, you know,
Speaker 1: that totally changes the narrative of the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: and it's stuff like that. Man, really is have you
Speaker 1: seen somebody play better than Kevin Durant um. That's a
Speaker 1: great question, and it's because it's been some great performances.
Speaker 1: I mean, Booker is playing awesome right now, Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: But it's something different about Kevin durant And you know,
Speaker 1: here's the thing I think of. You get to take
Speaker 1: and look at Kevin like step okay, and this is
Speaker 1: what it's like. Step They really don't need the ball
Speaker 1: in their hands to be effective because you can move
Speaker 1: them around the board like a chess piece. That's why
Speaker 1: they're so difficult to guard Dan because with Steph he
Speaker 1: can give the ball up and run off eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: screens and get open. Same thing with Kade, So that
Speaker 1: makes it more difficult for the defense to lock in
Speaker 1: because you're just throwing it to him at one spot
Speaker 1: or he just bringing it up the defense and shift
Speaker 1: and set and that kind of can take away some things.
Speaker 1: But when you can move them around the court like that,
Speaker 1: how many players have we seen like that that have
Speaker 1: been disaffective at six to eleven when he's seven feet Okay,
Speaker 1: that does that nobody? I mean, if I was sitting
Speaker 1: there at all watching it. Yeah, And the question was
Speaker 1: could he be effective enough without the other two to
Speaker 1: make his team competitive. I think he answered that question.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Helped me understand this. This drives crazy
Speaker 1: when you have everybody knows Kevin Durant's getting the ball,
Speaker 1: there's six seconds to go, and they have PJ. Tucker
Speaker 1: on him. So you don't even have somebody flash on
Speaker 1: you don't you don't have you know, Holiday has a
Speaker 1: chance to go up there. I gotta get the ball
Speaker 1: out of the stars hands. Yeah. Like I go back
Speaker 1: to the Utah Jazz against the Bulls in Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: They didn't double team him, I know. I mean especially
Speaker 1: especially at a time too when three point shot wasn't
Speaker 1: as viable, Okay, but put him in the middle of
Speaker 1: the court almost it's a tougher double team because you
Speaker 1: got more options. So I know, man, it is, especially
Speaker 1: with that Brooklyn team when Kyrie and you know James
Speaker 1: are not there. It's like when you play against Golden
Speaker 1: State without Clay on the court. It's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to double team step but yet teams didn't really do
Speaker 1: it a lot early. I don't want the best player
Speaker 1: to beat me. If if the if the third guy
Speaker 1: beats me, then I live with that. If you said,
Speaker 1: Joe Harris hits a jumper and we lose, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: but I'm not letting KD hit hit hit a jumper,
Speaker 1: I'm not. And you know what if a couple inches,
Speaker 1: then we're talking about you know, the Bucks folding, Probably
Speaker 1: their head coach gets fired, the nets, maybe they get
Speaker 1: healthy and they win a champion. I mean, it's that close,
Speaker 1: and they almost allowed that to happen. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And you've got to scratch your
Speaker 1: head sometimes. You think about it too, is that somebody
Speaker 1: else is gonna have to get the ball. It's just
Speaker 1: like was a game I don't know, was it too
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn when Milwaukee wouldn't allow KD to get the
Speaker 1: ball or Kyrie and it was Bruce Brown who had
Speaker 1: to try to finish the shot and somebody. So that
Speaker 1: right there in itself is what you're talking about. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like when they play a box
Speaker 1: in one on us in high school? You know I
Speaker 1: had on us? Yeah like that, Yeah, and we could
Speaker 1: speak friends, we because we went through it before. But
Speaker 1: I we understand it. I hate it. I I would
Speaker 1: yell at the defense. I'd say, you're afraid to guard me,
Speaker 1: you're afraid to go play that box in one nonsense
Speaker 1: and ask you a question that when they played the
Speaker 1: boxing one on track one two on you you still
Speaker 1: with money right now? I had to be a decoy.
Speaker 1: I had a coach who said, get the ball inside, Danny,
Speaker 1: get the ball inside. You made you need to revisit
Speaker 1: your their coach man is he is? He still walking
Speaker 1: and breathing. I don't know where he is. I'm over
Speaker 1: at Jim. I'm finally over. I can tell I'm your
Speaker 1: body language says man. It's like you with furniture sales.
Speaker 1: You know you're over it, right kind of. I'm still
Speaker 1: a little scarred. Man. The tent sale got me. Everything
Speaker 1: else was fine. I love it. Here's here's Jim Jackson said,
Speaker 1: you want you want a Scotch guard, Dad, Yeah, honey,
Speaker 1: Jim Jackson, he says, bring a Scotch guard this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll take care of it. I said, you got kids, right,
Speaker 1: You never know it's village. You know what's village. Oh
Speaker 1: it's great to connect with you, Jim. Thank you, buddy man.
Speaker 1: I'm here, buddy, all right. That's Jim Jackson, Fox and
Speaker 1: Turner Sports NBA analysts. He's the Clippers analyst fourteen year
Speaker 1: NBA that take a break, close up shop, last call
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Speaker 1: A lot of fun today. I needed some laughs. I
Speaker 1: mentioned this last hour. I lost a really good friend,
Speaker 1: UH known him for forty years. UH passed away suddenly
Speaker 1: over the weekend, and today is his funeral. John Lyndon
Speaker 1: Smith can't know Ohio and I went to college together,
Speaker 1: the University of Dayton, and UH known his wife, Patty
Speaker 1: and their kids. Uh there's that guilt feeling sometimes you
Speaker 1: have not being able to be there, and UH I
Speaker 1: kind of wrestled with that of not coming in today
Speaker 1: and going out there. But I talked to some people
Speaker 1: who were who were there that I went to college with,
Speaker 1: and I went to the wake last night and funeral
Speaker 1: this morning. So hopefully, UH some kind of solace there
Speaker 1: for uh for John's family is they try to move
Speaker 1: on from this. Alright, let's uh make the awkward transition
Speaker 1: back to our regularly scheduled program. This day in sports history,
Speaker 1: Part I Got a few odd ones. Nineteen thirty nine,
Speaker 1: the first US water ski Tournament was held at Jones
Speaker 1: Beach in New York. Not no water scheme, was that old?
Speaker 1: H Nineteen seventy nine, the WHA teams Edmonton Oilers, Hartford
Speaker 1: Whaler's Quebec Nordikes Winnipeg Jets joined the NHL. Some good
Speaker 1: logos there. Nineteen ninety, Blank became the first rock artist
Speaker 1: to perform at Yankee Stadium. Blank became the first I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tall air quotes rock artist to perform at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: Billy Joel, Billy Joel's correct, nineteen ninety the job there Um.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and three, Michelle We won our first usg
Speaker 1: A title at the age of thirteen oh and twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: the expansion team was awarded to Las Vegas in NHL.
Speaker 1: That worked out all right. It was also on this
Speaker 1: date in sports history, John McEnroe had his famous you
Speaker 1: cannot be serious rant first round win at Wimbledon. Final
Speaker 1: results of the pull question, mclovan, can you make either
Speaker 1: these happen today? All right? Players get paid in college
Speaker 1: or twelve team playoff? Twelve team playoffs seventy nine percent.
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Alabama, it's been holding Jeremy, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind today? Thank you? Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'm always good to talk to you and my three
Speaker 1: favorite dan Etts. And I wanted to tell you I
Speaker 1: had I had a story about but after hearing coming
Speaker 1: back from commercial. Man, heart goes out to you all
Speaker 1: your friends. I know what it's like to lose, to
Speaker 1: lose a best friend. I can't lose a friend. And
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to you man, and and that's
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll be thanking for you. And I mean
Speaker 1: won't tell my story now, but I do want to
Speaker 1: say one thing. I want Rex Chapman in a Sun's
Speaker 1: jersey and a pair of kanky cargo short standing in
Speaker 1: the middle Phoenix's basketball court with a microphone and saying
Speaker 1: suns in four. I have a good one. Yeah, thank you, Jeremy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I told Rex, where's Phoenix suns jersey tonight? Let's see
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Florida. Hi, Jonathan, thanks for holding What do
Speaker 1: you have for me today? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Sorry.
Speaker 1: If you're last, I'll try to cheer you up a
Speaker 1: little bit. Hey. Regarding this baseball and the pictures, it
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the movie The Top Gun
Speaker 1: where Enrique Plaze starts searching the pictures on the field.
Speaker 1: You remember that Burt bly Levin's pitching, and he runs
Speaker 1: out to the mound and he starts searching him and
Speaker 1: he pulls out a jar of bassoline. He pulled out
Speaker 1: a piece of sandpaper, he pulls out a drill, he
Speaker 1: puts it back in, and he goes back to the plate.
Speaker 1: It just kind of reminds me that a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a joke. I think, all right, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jonathan, But that's what's happening. You know, they're
Speaker 1: they're gonna be that's gonna be frisking getting out there
Speaker 1: on the mound. All right, take your hat off, your
Speaker 1: glove belt, pant no, no, not your pants there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pol That was a naked gun that's played by Leslie Nielsen. Yep.
Speaker 1: And we had him on the show like a year
Speaker 1: before he passed away. I think he passed away a
Speaker 1: decade ago. We had him on six or seven months
Speaker 1: right before he passed away, and he talked about that
Speaker 1: he would have this fart machine that he would carry
Speaker 1: around with him and he would just well, he thought
Speaker 1: it was the funniest thing in the world. And Leslie
Speaker 1: Nielsen had just this dry sense humor. But but prior
Speaker 1: to coming on the show, people would walk in and
Speaker 1: then he would hit the fart machine and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: it's well, at least excuse me, Like he just thought
Speaker 1: it was funniest thing in the world that here was
Speaker 1: this grown man, established actor and he was having the
Speaker 1: time of his life by just embarrassing people. And he
Speaker 1: had such a Police Squad was another show that he
Speaker 1: was in? Was it Police Squad? That had? They only
Speaker 1: had like six episodes. But but what I loved about
Speaker 1: this show was they would always have like a and
Speaker 1: guest starring, and then the guest star would die in
Speaker 1: the opening credits, be like, whoever it is who was
Speaker 1: a murder? She wrote, Angela Lansbury and guest starring Angela Lansbury,
Speaker 1: And then she would come rolling out of a car
Speaker 1: and then you'd never see her in the episode Peter
Speaker 1: Falk and then you know he wouldn't he would get
Speaker 1: killed before they even started the show. I think they're
Speaker 1: only six episode. It was so ahead of its time.
Speaker 1: It was wonderful. All right, let's go around the room.
Speaker 1: What we learned on this award nominated program, Todd. I'll
Speaker 1: start with you, by the way, great job and getting
Speaker 1: Rex and Rex Chapman and Jim Jackson are just their
Speaker 1: wonderful guest and I really appreciate when they share the
Speaker 1: stories and my thanks to Jay Bills joining us as well.
Speaker 1: All Right, Todd, If Bills represented the NCAA, he would
Speaker 1: have told them leave things alone, stop being competent and stupid,
Speaker 1: and don't take the case of the Supreme Court mclovin.
Speaker 1: Rex Sadman promised five hundred thousand in escrow. Yeah, setan
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