1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight fire for Wednesday, June. 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: School years nearly over. I know that I have friends 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: on the East Coast whose kids are already out of school. 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I know some private school kids who are already out 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: of school. My kids, they don't get out until this week. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: They're very excited. I don't know how the wife and 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I will handle them being home all the time. Although 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: we do have plenty of camps lined up summer. I 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: can't wait for it. That being said, the NBA Finals 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: are not even finished and summer is nearly here. This 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: is just absolutely crazy how long this has been dragged out, 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: thanks to the Celtics for playing seven against the Bucks 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: and seven against the Heat. And the more I think 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: about the series, the more people I hear writing off Boston, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: the more I think this is going seven. So Game 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: six Sunday night, No NBA, no, no real NBA today. 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll touch on it in in a bit, but we have 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: a special guest, former NFL running back Sean Alexander. Yes, 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: former Seattle Seahawk great, he played for several other teams. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna when I googled him. You know, before 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: you google, before you interview anybody, you gotta google him. 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: You look at the Wikipedia, you find interesting nuggets. Stude 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: has twelve kids with the same lady. How about that, 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Sean Alexander. You know, we we love to highlight athletes 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: who have oh he's got five kids with four different women, 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: or you know, any of that stuff that that's like 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: highlighted and trumpeted and all over t MZ and it's 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: you know, kind of laughed at and stuff, and we 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: don't have like the positive Sean Alexander really good stories. 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Super good guy. Actually lives kind of near where I 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: grew up in Virginia right now, and it sounds like 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: he's basically got his own football team. Were the kids. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna really like his story. Alexander 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: lots of at NFL stories to tell. Good dude, I 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: think you'll really like it. Before we get to that, 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Shawn Watson anymore. He came 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: out and like apologized for his earlier apology, and I 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: was just I can't get into DeShawn Watson. Just the 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: NFL needs to just rip pull the rip chord and 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: suspend him or not. Seriously, this is getting very very tiresome. Um, 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two. I went to my kids 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: field day to help out as like a dad on Tuesday, 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: and I could not believe when I heard this. They 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: were like, they're playing dodgeball. You know, you can't really 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: play dodgeball until you're in fifth grade. And I was like, wait, wait, wait, 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: time out. I actually said, I need a twenty second 48 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: time out. What you can't play dodgeball until you're in 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: fifth grade. That's like schools now. You know, I know 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: what you guys are thinking, but that stunned me. And 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: by the way, dodgeball was a highlight of field day. 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I know field days more like racist tug of war 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But obviously everybody there was like a 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: dodgeball tournament and my son had kind of a moment 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: and it, which was pretty exciting. They didn't win, but 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: dodge ball is really fun. I actually wanted to get 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: in there. I would be up for a dad dodgeball 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: tournament if anybody's interested. Also, as a side note, I'm 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: thinking of fun silly games. My wife finds all this 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: cool stuff. Somehow she was able to find there is 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: a nerf gun war, like a straight up battle at 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Sophi Stadium this summer, and we are going to it. Um, 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: we are definitely partaking. I'm thinking of buying a go 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: pro so I can get the footage for you and 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: put it on the gram because you know, I gotta 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: put everything on the Graham. I just I love kids 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: games like you never get too old for that stuff. 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of too old, played a little hoops. I'm back 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: from the concussion. I don't think it was a concussion. 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: My brother was so concerned, so it shout out to 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Jeffrey for expressing concern. Called our doctor friend, who then 72 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: texted me, what's up with the concussion, And you know, 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: I explained to it. I got my bell wrung, no doubt. 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you guys this. Uh in game 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I think it was Game two. We played four games. 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Game two, I go in as a sub. The first 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: moment I go in, you know, they have a goal 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: kick and I'm playing up front and my job is 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to just rereak havoc upfront and try to poke on 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: a goal. I had a goal and an assist at 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: the tournament, but literally I walk on the field I 82 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: cornered the guy instantly off the goal kick, and as 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: I come up to take it from him, he just blasted. 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: I turned my head and I get drilled right in 85 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: the ear hole. And I kid you not. When I 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: went to bed Sunday night and Monday night, I could 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: not sleep on that ear because I could feel swelling 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: on the inside of the ear, not on the inside 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: of my head, on the outside of the ear. But 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: it was just painful. And then of course you know 91 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: that banging my head down, which hurt. And Monday I 92 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: was totally out of commission. Tuesday woke up feeling good, 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: went and played some hoops, played particularly well. But it's 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: good to be back out there. I know you guys 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: care about the adult league that I'm in. Just for 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: the record, there are no games this weekend Father's Day, 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: of course. UM. I hope you guys are doing something 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: nice on Father's Day. Um. I'm trying to play volleyball 99 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: with a couple of dads. I know, because we haven't 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: done volleyball and forever. I that's my thing. I like 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: being active and um playing sports. It's just fun. Like 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: I can't sit around too much. I just feel lazy. 103 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not enjoying life. I do like reading. Um. 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: I got a really good piece coming out on Fox 105 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Sports this week about the Dallas Cowboys and why I'm 106 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: betting their season win total under. Definitely gonna want to 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: check that out. But I will just say there's other 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: than a couple of tiny nuggets. There's not a ton 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: in the news. I did see this before we get 110 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: to Sean Alexander. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 111 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Duane Wade names addition to his NBA Mount Rushmore. What addition? Apparently, 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Dwyane Wade would like to expand Mount Rushmore from four 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: to five. He doesn't really say why, but he wants 117 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: to expand it and include Steph Curry. You know, obviously 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring that up as a topic. I'm a 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: Curry guy. That being said, if you expand Mount Rushmore, 120 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: aren't you like not making him Mount Rushmore anymore? You're 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: just making You're starting five. And I've been going through 122 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've actually had this discussion about 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore Robin. I could probably do forty five 124 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: minutes on it, but since we have a guest today, 125 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna quickly go Mount Rushmore in NBA history. 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I think the best way to do it is, can 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: you tell the story of basketball without this guy? Right? 128 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Is that the best way to sum it up? I mean, 129 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: if you just want to go by championships and include 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Bill Russell, go ahead for me. I can't put anybody 131 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: who is not in the modern era. I think Wilt 132 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: and Russell have great cases. I would listen to them 133 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: faux show. But I think if you're just talking about 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the history of basketball and you want to say, oh, 135 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: you gotta get James Dason, the guy who the peach basket, 136 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: you gotta fine, you could do that, That's not my round, 137 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: mush More. I think for sure you have to have 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Magic and Bird right, you have to they ignited the 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: NBA into what it is today. Obviously, you've gotta have 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's six and oh in the finals. And I 141 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: am of the belief you have to have Lebron James, 142 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: who I have called on this podcast several times since 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: he won the title with the Lakers. The best player 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: in NBA history. So there it is Larry Magic, Michael Lebron. 145 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people are gonna say, well, 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: what about Kobe Bryant, what about Shack, about Tim Duncan? 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: They all have valid cases. It's mount Rushmore for a reason. 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: You only get four guys. I would love to get 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Curry on there. Magic and Larry are kind of a combo. 150 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't see how you boot George. I don't see 151 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: how you boot Lebron. So then you got to tinker 152 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: with splitting up Magic and Larry or booting Lebron or 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: booting Jordan's. It just doesn't make sense. And you guys 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: know this is coming from one of the biggest Steph 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Curry fans. Now, I guess the other thought is, well, wait, 156 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: why would Dwayne Wade say this? He is, you know, 157 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: one of Lebron's best friends. That's puzzling banana boat buddies 158 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: that we people still talk about the banana boat right. Um. 159 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. At any rate, I think 160 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting that Wade would bring it up and it 161 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Instead of amount Rushmore, you make it 162 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: you're starting five Because I think Curry ultimately could have 163 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: a case. I know nobody wants to hear that he's 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna win finals MVP if the Warriors win the series. 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I do want to say I'm not as confident on 166 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: the Warriors winning the series as I felt after the win. 167 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: You know, after the win, you feel really good. You're like, Okay, yep, 168 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. This is the team. There's the team. 169 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: They got this, they figured out Boston. But come on, 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: you think Boston is gonna lay down that easily. I 171 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: read a good piece from frequent guest on this podcast, 172 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: Brian Winhorst, about how what's let Boston down is its offense. 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: And this one's for the guy who keeps sending me 174 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: d ms on Instagram when I say does defense matter? 175 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Boston had the number one defense in the league. If 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: they can't score, they cannot win. And in the half 177 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: court their offense is bogged down badly. Tatum is incredible, 178 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Wiggins is doing a great job on him. Jayleen Brown 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: can't dribble a damn basketball. He's had some moments driving 180 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: to the bucket. If you, I mean, if you're not 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: going to get a six point three point six, three 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: point night from Al Horford Derek White is bordering on unplayable. 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: They don't want to toss Printchard out there, Like I 184 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the path is. I saw an incredible 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: stat that almost I had to go double check this 186 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: because it seems so crazy. So with Robert Williams on 187 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: the bench, Boston is minus forty two in the series. 188 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: Robert Williams for the series is plus thirty one on 189 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: the bench, minus forty two. You gotta play Williams. You 190 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: have to. He's got to be the guy. Listen, Al Horford. 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I talked about it before the series, like, I just 192 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: he's I think he's a little old. Now, will you 193 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: have a turn back the clock game in Boston? It's possible, 194 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: but that that's got to be the stat of the 195 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: series for Boston. Like Robert Williams is their guy. I know, 196 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Smart is the defensive player of the year, but folks, 197 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Robert Williams has been the designing factor. And if they 198 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: don't have him and he might have to play thirty 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: five minutes, I don't know if is it is it 200 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: if he plays thirty five minutes and like five of 201 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: them are where he's not very good or he's you know, 202 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: at because he's it's just exceeding his limit. Is he 203 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: still effective? I think? So, what are your other options? Williams? 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Grant william shows up at home. But 205 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: it was a three and one gambling night for me 206 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: in Game five. It's been a very good NBA playoff run. 207 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I do not gamble on baseball in the off seat 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: in the middle of summer's too many games. I will 209 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: not touch hockey playoffs. I don't I don't even know 210 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: who's still alive. I don't really mess around with golf 211 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: that much. I'm gonna take a hiatus on the gambling 212 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: front until the NFL, but obviously I've been diving into 213 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the NFL a lot. And let's transition from my thoughts 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: on the NFL to those of Sean Alexander, former superstar 215 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: running back with the Seattle Seahawks. Fox Sports Radio has 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and 218 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 219 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: to listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything 220 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. I know what sports dance, 221 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who 222 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: does let's just say I know a guy who knows 223 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: a guy who knows another guy. Okay, let's welcome into 224 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: straight fire. A legendary NFL running back also played at Alabama, 225 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: so we will have some Crimson Tide questions. Let's welcome 226 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: in Sean Alexander Seawan. How you doing, man, brother, I'm 227 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: doing good. How are you doing? I'm excellent. Retirement is 228 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: treating you well? That is good to hear, it is 229 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: it is Yeo. We just had baby number twelve, and 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: so that's what I tell you about twelve, no twins, 231 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: all hard work. I know what I'm talking about. Wow. 232 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: So you know all the jokes about how you know 233 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: if you have three kids, you have a starting five 234 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: in basketball, you legitimately could run plays against other families 235 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: for like a Thanksgiving football game. What's your oldest or 236 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: do you have Like our oldest is eighteen and she's 237 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: going to go off to college next year, and our 238 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: youngest is nine months so so yeah, so it's eighteen, sixteen, fifteen. 239 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: Those were the first three girls, thirteen and eleven of 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: the boys, and then it's uh almost ten, so it 241 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: would be ten next week, nine or the next two girls. 242 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: Uh so and then it's seven year old boy and 243 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: then five, three, two and nine months, four girls, four teenagers. 244 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the Matthew, you've basically been in 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: diapers for eighteen years. Yes, you've got at least another 246 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: year coming up with nine month olds. I mean maybe two, 247 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Gee, goodness gracious, that's incredible. Well a 248 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: shout out to you for that show. And that's incredible. 249 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: You are joining us to talk because you're the ambassador 250 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: for the Fatherhood Festival at the Hall of Fame Village 251 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: and kent In, Ohio coming up over Father's Day weekend. 252 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: How'd you get involved in that? Yeah? You know what, 253 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: it was really cool. So some of the guys with 254 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, Uh, Anthony Bono's great all time 255 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame left tackle from the Sins Night Bengals, 256 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: and and I was raised in Florence, Kentucky. That's across 257 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the bridge from Cincinnat, Ohio. So I'm a hoo day 258 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: from the beginning, and so being him calling me up, 259 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: and then uh, Darren and Tony Dungee they did the 260 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: all pro Dads and so um so Darren came up 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: with the idea of of me being the ambassador forward, 262 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: so between Tony Dungee, Darren, Anthony Muyos and they called 263 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: said Mike Singletary was gonna be a part of it, 264 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: and I was like what the linebackers linebacker Okay, you know. Um. 265 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Then they called my good friend David Tyree, the Giants 266 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: cads like so I always got families and and they're 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: just good quality brothers in the NFL, good quality men. 268 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: And we wanted to inspire and encourage dads all over 269 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: the country that um, that um, the fatherlessness epidemic um 270 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: can be solved if we all just band together. Like, 271 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: no one needs me to be like Tony Dungee, I 272 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: just need to be Sean. I was in there for 273 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: my kids, you know really, so we encouraged that for 274 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: every guy to get involved and be the best ver 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: vision of yourself for your kids. Um. It just changes things. 276 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: And so one better way of doing that then talking football, 277 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: playing football, Get your kids out there, running them through drills. 278 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to tighten them up a 279 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: little bit, you know. But but then also have a 280 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: good time talking about the beautiful, um great opportunity that 281 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: fathering does. And then my wife's coming, and so she's 282 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna be talking to some of the moms and moms 283 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: in sports. I mean, you know, I was raised a 284 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: single parent home, so so getting to talk about what 285 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: that looks like and some of the goods and bads 286 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: and strengths and weaknesses that moms can bring to the table. Um, 287 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be fun weekend all the way around. 288 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: And I know we're bringing Kurt Warner's movie out. Everybody's 289 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna get to watch that and see that. And I've 290 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: heard that's been really excellent about the being the underdog 291 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and prevailing and and so it's it's gonna be a 292 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: fun weekend all for for all. Her Fathershood. Yeah, I 293 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: want to ask Shan not to talk too much about kids. 294 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, the media latches onto the dad's 295 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL or players in the NFL who who 296 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: have like five kids with like four different women. That 297 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: storylines all over the internet. And why aren't they talking 298 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: about what a dad who has twelve kids and it's 299 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: just the dad to twelve kids with one woman. How 300 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: come that's not a bigger story? You know what? I 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes it could be that it's just not 302 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: talked about, like some people be around me, like I 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: didn't know you had went on they had a bunch 304 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: of more kids, and like just just not talked about. 305 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: But then also like I just feel like, um, whether 306 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: it's family and being a dad or even if it's 307 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: your faith, like some people feel insecure, and I'm like, man, 308 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: like you be you you know what I mean, Like 309 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: like like that's the one thing that every team man 310 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: I've ever had, the most craziest, wildest and the most 311 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: most focused. I always said, like, man, I'm gonna love 312 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: who you are and we'll figure out our relationship together. 313 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: And like when people have that, they have the opportunity 314 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: to grow in their faith or choose not to have it. 315 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: They get the opportunity to bring all their girlfriends around 316 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: me and my wife or to just bring the same girl. 317 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: And it's it's really cool when guys, you know, now 318 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: we're on our forties and they're like, hey, you remember 319 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: that girl, I married her man and we got kids. 320 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Now that's just an awesome thing because at the end 321 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: of the day, like I think, one of the worst 322 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: traps to me many people who have in NFL was 323 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: they get to forty and they're lonely, and I'm like, man, 324 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: we we made all that money, spent all that money, 325 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: and now you don't even have anybody with you, you know, 326 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's a torturous, terrible life. And a lot 327 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: of the guys in the NFL family have that. And 328 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: so I want to just encourage people like man, like 329 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't buyle beat anybody, but I want to give 330 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: you the truth. There is a way that's awesome and 331 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the ends of success, and I want to take people there. 332 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm with that one final kid question, are you letting 333 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: your and eleven? I think I got that right. Your 334 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: your sons play football. Yeah, so they've been playing flag 335 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: football and they and we always said that seventh grade 336 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: was the year. So next year, Joseph, the oldest son, 337 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: just want to play tackle football. And he's he's ready 338 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: to go. He's ready. All three. So it's nine girls 339 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: and three boys. All three of the boys are ready 340 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to go. And uh, and it's it's pretty awesome to 341 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: see them, like because they they're talented, you know what 342 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: I mean. And and so I have to get Mama 343 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Bear calmed down and be like, who's gonna hit my baby? 344 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: You know? And I'm like, hey, this is just a 345 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: part of it, you know, were they were born into 346 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: this family. And so it's really cool because my older brother, Drain, 347 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: he went to Notre Dame on an academic scholarship. But 348 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: his son Austin is probably one of the best freshman 349 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: um in high school football right now. He'll he'll he'll 350 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: be he'll go to one of the big schools and 351 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: will dominate. And then then my cousin Isaac, he's a 352 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: freshman too. And and then uh, you got Maddics. Uh 353 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the best freshman linebackers in Cincinnati. 354 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: And he said he's an elder, so um. And then 355 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, you got Derek Barnes. He was the oldest 356 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: of the cousins. He's the linebacker for the line. So 357 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: you're about to see the next wave of my family 358 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: all coming through and uh. And it's just exciting to 359 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: watch them and try to give them tid bits of 360 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: what what success can happen and what it looks like, 361 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: and at the same time let them go off and 362 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: make their own decisions. I think it's so much better 363 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: to create room for people to make choices and see 364 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the goods and basildor choices and then learn from it 365 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: than the control it all. And so just watching all 366 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: of them, it's been really exciting. And until my boys 367 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: are the next ones are going to go to high 368 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: school and they'll have their older cousins. They're probably be 369 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: in the pros by the time they get there, and 370 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: it's just wild. It's just one other thing on uh 371 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: to your kids have played flag all along? When did 372 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: you start playing tackle football? Oh, the beginning six years? Yeah, yeah, 373 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. It's changed a lot, right, yeah, yeah, 374 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: yeah after we yeah, yeah, we played at the at 375 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: the beginning, like it wasn't there's such a mental side 376 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: of football now where you know, all the different defenses, 377 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: is all the routes that you can run shorts, you know. 378 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: And so I just feel like Joseph and my oldest 379 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: son is more of a wide receiver Cording. I think 380 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: it's a great cornerback, but but he's athletics. So so 381 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: like that that's there now. Justice and jet A Diet 382 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: the two boys, the two younger boys. Um, if Justice 383 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: is a little taller, he's gonna be a thumper of 384 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: a linebacker. If not, he's gonna play running back. You 385 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then you got Jetty. You 386 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: know how it is with the youngest son. He's always 387 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: a little more of an athletic and everybody's got a 388 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: little more of that. It a little more of the 389 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: strong will. And so he's gonna play with our position. 390 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: He wants but but but but you know you're watching 391 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: him and you want to put them in the right place. 392 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: And I just play the mental game with them of 393 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: doing the flag playing at high level. Since I'm coaching, 394 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: I run the offenses that are pretty intense, and they 395 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: all can run audible stuff, and you know, it's just 396 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: really great for a bunch of six graders, you know 397 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. And U but it's awsotty cool. Yeah, 398 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty cool. All right, let's get to 399 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the current NFL um. The state of the running back 400 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: position is. I don't know if it's like in trouble 401 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: is the right phrase or under fire, but man, and 402 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have gotten paid and then 403 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: they get hurt and the shelf life is just it's 404 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: just not what it was back when you played. I mean, 405 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't know where you want to start. Christian McCaffrey, 406 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: the last two seasons with the injuries, Um, you can 407 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: go Todd Gurley basically out of football. Derrick Henry, what 408 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: we saw last year, Like, I don't know if you 409 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: were talking to current running backs, what do you what 410 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: are you telling them? Like other than maybe change the 411 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: positions you play. It's wild, it's wild. But I just 412 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: think people get over excited, like they get moved too quick. 413 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, when you've got to it it running back, 414 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: just like you know you gotta et quarterback. The problem 415 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: is is the way that the salary and the pace 416 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: system is set up it running back. He can take 417 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: you to the Cup. He could change your whole organization, 418 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: but you don't want to pay him because the system 419 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: says that we don't have to pay rookies like this. 420 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: But when you get one Johnson, Taylor, Derrick Henry, it 421 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: changes everything around you. And so I think that for 422 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: running backs, they should get paid. They're money beforehand. And 423 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: so I was in a unique situation when I got 424 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: to Seattle. I was getting paid you know the base, 425 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean to I'm going to the 426 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: probo getting paid three hundred thousand dollars for the years. 427 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I think about it, you know, I'm I'm sitting over 428 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: there looking looking at Duce and he's already sitting on 429 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: his you know, four million dollar year, didn't coporters there? 430 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: There are four or five million dollars a year and 431 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting paid three hundred thousand. So when I get 432 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: so my when I win the m v P and 433 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: that's been my six year in the league and they 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 1: give me that big whop over the contract, a lot 435 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: of it was we only been the playoffs three years 436 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: and twenty five and here you're taking us and we're 437 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: gonna go five years in a row and you've got 438 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: us to the super Bowl, And so a lot of 439 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: it was thank you, you know, you know, I mean, 440 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: but for guys like I think, like it's just not 441 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: how football has done anymore. They don't they don't come 442 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: back and say, man, you you you've made more money 443 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: for us, and you you turned our franchise around, and 444 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: here's here's a reward for that. Um And so for 445 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: running backs, I feel like that the Caps should be 446 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: wiggled around a little bit for those guys that are 447 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: eight guys mean, like, you know, but who here's the thing, 448 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: who who's an it guy? Right now? Are there are 449 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: there really any Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, okay with a 450 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: third year third year indeed, that doesn't do Dalvin Cook, 451 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So Dalvin Cook's had some injuries. Yeah, 452 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. Like those would be like 453 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: the three that I would be like, yeah, you know, 454 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and uh and then Christian mccabeth. Those are 455 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: my top five guys. And I would say, like me, like, 456 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: you move the contracts around for those guys and we 457 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: make it where hey, I'm running back that special just 458 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: because the shelf life for them, We won't we want 459 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: salary cap y'all. We might spread it out a little 460 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: bit longer if they go down by injury, you know 461 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we can make the rules like 462 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: that so those guys can get in with their But 463 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: because the truth is is it's it's a violent position 464 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: and a violent sport. And we can protect everybody else. 465 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: We can protect the receiver, we can protect the quarterback. 466 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: We can't protect the running back. That's it's impossible. I 467 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: feel like Zeke Elliott didn't crack your top five. He's 468 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: one of the highest paid the Cowboys, you know, gave 469 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: him a lot of money and they're having to make 470 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: sacrifices elsewhere on the roster. What do you do with 471 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott at this point? Yeah, that's a that's a 472 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: good call. I mean, I feel like I think that's 473 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: the wear and tear, you know what I mean. So 474 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: like to me like that's where he should be a 475 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: fixture cowboy forever. But just like me, fixtures forever. But 476 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: I've got to go play the end of my career, 477 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: um and with the Commanders, you know what I mean, 478 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: because of the way the salaries are designed, where the actuality, 479 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, IMMAs Fish should never play with Arizona. He 480 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: should make cowboy forever. Tony Dorset should have never been 481 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: a Bronco. You should have mat cowboy friend, you know 482 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, it's weird though you mentioned 483 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: some guys long term with the team, like Christian McCaffrey 484 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: was in a lot of trade rumors this offseason. Um 485 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley hasn't even finished his rookie deal. He's 486 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: hurt all the time, Like is he in the Giants 487 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: future plans? Like I don't know the new Buffalo Bills coach. 488 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: You saw Buffalo there they became one of the best 489 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: teams in the league. I don't know they're starting. Running 490 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: back is a rotational you know, it's whoever we got 491 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: back there. Yeah, and that's that's And and once again, 492 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: like just like I said, we can't make everybody, you know, 493 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: be the guy. Joe Burrow is special, you know what 494 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, Patrick Mahomes is special. You know what 495 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean. Those guys are special. We don't throw everybody's 496 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: name in there, you know what I mean, like, because 497 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: they're not all that. So I think that there's special 498 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: running backs, but we want to say, man, movie do 499 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: it all the running back? Well, man, you can't put 500 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: all the running backs in the same thing. Like for 501 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: a while, everybody knew top two running backs Shan's Inner, 502 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Ladinian Thomas like that, we knew, you know what I mean. 503 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: And so like you can't just throw everybody's name there, 504 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: because there's guys that are not special and those are 505 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: these there's quarterbacks that they can just do their job 506 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: and we say, hey, good job, go put them with 507 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: a good running back, you know what I mean. Yeah, 508 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: we could wrap up with this. So you were at Alabama, 509 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: you almost went to Notre Dame. I read like you 510 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: said your brother went there and your first year. I 511 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: guess in Seattle you get the Rocky Waters um. Well, 512 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: I believe it was in Seattle. This guy's a notre 513 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: dame legend. I am just curious any Ricky Water stories. 514 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: One of the one of the best trash talkers um 515 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: that I can recall in my time. On that Ricky 516 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: was so awesome. I feel like I feel like he's 517 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: like on the cusp of the Hall of Fame, and 518 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like he got such a raw 519 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: deal for how talented he was. Because the guy that 520 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: I met told me the way the lads of the land. 521 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: He was like, man, I did this wrong. I did 522 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: that wrong. This is how you should do it. It 523 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: was humble, and he was like, man, you're gonna replace 524 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: me one day, and I'm gonna cheer you all the 525 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: way to the super Bowl. I'm gonna cheat you always 526 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Like he was just awesome 527 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: and uh and I remember him and Cortez Kennedy got 528 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: rest his soul. Um. We went over to Cortez's house 529 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: like before I ever played one game, and they sat 530 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: around and they talked about how to spend money. And 531 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: how to use how to use my talent to make 532 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: as much money as I could. And I was like, dang, 533 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: these are the two legends of Seattle. Man, Okay, you 534 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: know what, everything I'm gonna do, I'm gonna I'm gonna 535 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: make them both right. And so so I love I 536 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: love Ricky and um and he would tell me some 537 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of the crazy stories of him in Philadelphia and him 538 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: with the forty Niners. It was wild for a second, 539 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: but I got the I got the the mild under 540 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: control vetty vetty Ricky Waters and so so I love him. 541 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: He's like forever big brother. If he ever needs anything, 542 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: he'll call me in If I ever need anything, I 543 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: know I could call him. And we love getting together 544 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: for like Seahawkey events or super Bowl events because you know, 545 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's just awesome. He's awesome. Yeah, congrats on 546 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: a great career Sewan Alexander obviously twelve kids raising them, 547 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I'm sure you got a rich uh career 548 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: in coaching coming up right, coaching your kids in sports. Uh. 549 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: And thanks for taking the time, man, no doubt. Brother, 550 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.