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Speaker 1: You're obviously still dealing with with the the injury. How

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Speaker 1: how have you been able to function with it and

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Speaker 1: and the brace and everything like that. I think the

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Speaker 1: coaches just know that I've been you know, dinged up

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Speaker 1: and and struggling with it. Uh. They know I want

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Speaker 1: to finish the season though. I want to finish the

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Speaker 1: season with my team. Uh. So you know, I've obviously

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Speaker 1: been limited throughout the week. I come in for treatment

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Speaker 1: in the morning, uh, stay for treatment after practice and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And like during practice, I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: lot more rotation. Uh, coaches putting me in for things

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Speaker 1: that you know, might be new installer, things that I

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Speaker 1: might need to know for the week. And uh, if

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Speaker 1: it's something that you know we've been going overall season,

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Speaker 1: he will kind of like let some of the younger

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Speaker 1: guys uh fill in the role while I'm uh you know,

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Speaker 1: while I'm trying to rest my arm a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and then during the game, I just make sure I

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Speaker 1: tape it up, um, you know, take some tiling on

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and just try to fight through it.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna need surgery after the season? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. UM, I think I'm a be able to

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Speaker 1: just work the small muscles around it, keep getting treatment

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, personally, I would like to avoid

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Speaker 1: uh surgery at all costs, regardless of the injury. Um.

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Speaker 1: And that's from personal experience and also from what I've

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Speaker 1: heard around the league from vets when I came in

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Speaker 1: as a younger guy. You know, if you can avoid surgery,

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Speaker 1: do it. And uh, it's because I had two shoulder

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Speaker 1: labor terrors in college and one I got surgery on

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Speaker 1: and one I didn't. And I still feel the effects

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Speaker 1: of the one I got surgery on it. It feels

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Speaker 1: like every once in a while it clicks or like

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Speaker 1: the screws that are in there just kind of bother

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Speaker 1: I tore, I kind of just did a lot of

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Speaker 1: treatment and rehab on it, and uh, you know, work

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Speaker 1: the small muscles that you know, make it stronger, and uh,

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Speaker 1: this one feels a lot better now. Thank you, Tom

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Speaker 1: cannavan and Leonard. How are you doing. I'm good. How

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Speaker 1: are you good? Um? One of the things that I've

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Speaker 1: noticed this year is you tend to move around more.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing it more than last year? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I think Um you know, I think for a while now,

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Speaker 1: I've been a type of D line and that moves

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Speaker 1: around a lot, because uh you know, I'm tall and

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Speaker 1: long and rangey, like I can play defensive end moved

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Speaker 1: out a little bit, and then I can also play

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Speaker 1: so much multiples in his defense. Um, you know, he

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Speaker 1: likes to use me that way. It helps his Uh

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Speaker 1: it helps him, you know, change up his defensive lot

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Speaker 1: and be comfortable knowing that he could put me anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And um you know I've obviously embraced it, and uh

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Speaker 1: you know I actually like to move around. Um it

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Speaker 1: helps me play better, I think instead of being trapped

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Speaker 1: to one type of player style, does does it give

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Speaker 1: you an advantage in the sense that you're lining up

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Speaker 1: if I'm always at the right side of the defense

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Speaker 1: right through technique just all the time, It's like teams

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know the fact that I could play

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Speaker 1: know plays a big, big difference. Hey Leonard, how you

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Speaker 1: doing good? Thank you? Um, you know you've been at

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Speaker 1: between Christmas and New Year's a lot of teams are

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Speaker 1: gearing up for playoff pushes things like that. Your teams, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: have not been. First of all, do you ever get

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, with you know, my last team

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be playing this game still. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: money anymore. I want to be great. I want to

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Speaker 1: win and uh, you know, I definitely like at the

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Speaker 1: end of the time, you saw Michael Strahan earlier this year, right,

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Speaker 1: and his last game was the Super Bowl victory. Obviously, Um,

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Speaker 1: his mind a little bit. Man. You know, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that's ever gonna be me someday, you know, can

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Speaker 1: you know? I mean you you watch these games when

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Speaker 1: guys like straight hand, you know, coming to an organization

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Speaker 1: like this being a defensive lineman. Uh. There's been so

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Speaker 1: many great defensive linemen that have been through here, and uh,

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Speaker 1: a part of their legacy is winning as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: not only were they great players, but you can look

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Speaker 1: also a part of great teams, winning teams that you know,

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Speaker 1: make their legacy that much better. Um, it's it helps

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Speaker 1: a guy become more of a legend when he's a

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Speaker 1: part of Super Bowl teams, playoff teams and and things

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Speaker 1: like that, and um, you know, I obviously want those

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Speaker 1: up to something like that. Thank you appreciate it. Take

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Speaker 1: one last one with Tom Cannon Man, Hey, Lenny, one

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Speaker 1: more other question. What are your coaches today? Was talking

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Speaker 1: about you and I was asking about the injury and

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Speaker 1: he said, well, you really can't tell because he's like Superman.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel like you're showing any of

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Speaker 1: the injury because he was saying you can't see it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think during the game, I have so

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, even though it's it's banged up

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Speaker 1: I would like just reaching for something I feel it,

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Speaker 1: it would be rare if there's one player on the

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Speaker 1: it's rare for a player this late in the year,

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Speaker 1: this late in my career at a too, to not

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Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I've been trained to fight

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Speaker 1: through paying university, and you know, it's I want to

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Speaker 1: be out there with my guys. M