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Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox in the air.

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Speaker 3: Everybody hears this song. Now, that's why I haven't changed it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta get mine done. Got to get it changed.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean everyone hears it? See you don't

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Speaker 3: watch the games all like that. Well, when you watch

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Speaker 3: the games, you'll hear this.

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Speaker 4: I hear that song.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Like before every kickoff, like after a

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Speaker 3: score or something like that, you'll hear this song. This

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Speaker 3: is the one, just the one they play. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: there it is right there. I want to say it

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Speaker 3: to the guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: There it is every week I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want this to come off in anyway.

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Speaker 1: There we go typically don't have the volume up on

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Speaker 4: Or reason or or you're calling it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not doing that many but well I just

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Speaker 1: it's it's tough. You got five young kids in the house.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to theyn't want to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Oh so I'm just messing anyway.

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Speaker 5: But the interesting thing is is I do be I

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Speaker 5: hear it like like.

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Speaker 1: Multiple games from a show. I thought that was from

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Speaker 1: Is it Scandal? What was the name of the show? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is it Patrick Macy or something like that.

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Speaker 1: The first time I ever heard this was what's that

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Speaker 1: guy's name? I was doing, you know, my my daughter's team,

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Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. That's when I heard the songs like

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Speaker 1: this is this song kind of hypes me up? Like

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like I don't want to get hype,

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Speaker 1: But am I getting hype right now?

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Speaker 4: Like I'm feeling like I'm this is getting me William H.

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Speaker 1: Spacey, I was not even close from Shameless, Shameless, thank you?

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Speaker 1: I think that that songs and Shameless.

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Speaker 4: It's a good show. I didn't finish it it was

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Speaker 4: a good show. Yeah, little redundant. Do you have to

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Speaker 4: finish a show for it to be a good show?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't finish Homeland, and I thought Homeland was a

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Speaker 3: good show. I have yet to finish Homeland. Did they

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Speaker 3: did it finish like that? Was there a conclusion to Homeland?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many.

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Speaker 6: Students a ton I think a good show, I will

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Speaker 6: watch again and again. I'll have it playing in the background,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not even watching it, you know, and I

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Speaker 6: definitely finish it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So a good show in your mind you have

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Speaker 1: to finish to do you have to finish the series?

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like you have to finish a series

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Speaker 3: for it to be a good show.

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Speaker 4: Okay. How about do you have to see every episode?

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Speaker 1: Like like Seinfeld was around in an era where you

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Speaker 1: didn't have the ability to to necessarily like tape it

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Speaker 1: and come back and watch like by like DVDs and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So do you at least have to watch every episode?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't never seen a full episode of Seinfeld ever once.

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Speaker 1: But it's not that's not your humor. How about Breaking Bad?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen Breaking Back?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah? Now show like that. You have to make

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Speaker 4: it to the Yeah, I finished. We got to make it.

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Speaker 5: It was physically ill. It got a little depressing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was physically ill.

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Speaker 3: I was upset for like a couple of days after

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Speaker 3: I finished it, and I've binge watched it. I've been

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Speaker 3: watched I binged it like I think I took like

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Speaker 5: Game Game of Thrones, I've watched that multiple times. It's

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Speaker 5: just it's it's too long. I did it once.

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Speaker 4: I'm good. I don't need to go back and watch.

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Speaker 3: I could go watch Game of Thrones today. I could

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Speaker 3: go watch House and Dragons this first day. I know

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Speaker 3: what episodes Dany, Well, you're talking about Kyle Drogo, Drago,

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Speaker 3: Darth Rockey, the Thrackies, Well, that Stranger Things, Jonas, Oh

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched it definitely.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I finished the last season. Five came out.

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Speaker 1: Say anything, don't so. I watched the first three. I

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Speaker 1: was starting to crack open, like I'm one of the

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Speaker 1: I have to be a d bag and do like

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Speaker 4: And I realized I must have missed all season four, so.

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Speaker 3: I've never watching one second of it.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of sci fi. You have to be in

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Speaker 4: the sci fi. I like sci fi. I've just never

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Speaker 5: Stranger Things was a kid's movie. Well it's what they do.

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Speaker 5: And I told you this. It's the The brilliant part

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Speaker 5: about it is it's a kid show, but it takes

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Speaker 5: I remember that, like I remember.

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Speaker 4: It's like Little Mermaid. It's it's very relatable, Like Little Marmade.

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Speaker 3: Daddy was a hoe, had a whole bunch of shorties,

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Speaker 3: different different, different ethnic background. I had a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: got it, you know what I mean. Like he he was.

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Speaker 3: He was spoiled, the same Mermaid, Little Mermaid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he animated or the live action original, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: There's there is always adult context connected to Disney movies.

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Speaker 4: Well that's true. I mean, it just is what it is. Brady.

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Speaker 4: I'll just say this, no spoiler on Stranger Things. Oh,

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Speaker 4: here we go.

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Speaker 5: You're you're a geek, be on the lookout for the

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Speaker 5: forcing of something woke.

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Speaker 4: To the show that was told. Oh I already that'd

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Speaker 4: season four. I already.

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Speaker 1: I'm already like really, like do we need to hammer?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. Man, everything's so forceding.

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Speaker 3: Oh I know what you're doing. Okay, all right, okay

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I got you, agendas, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: It's like thought, we just have a fun story that

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, like kind of like, you know, to introduce

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Speaker 1: No, it's not even to introduce you to it. It's

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Speaker 1: just like because that's always been the case. But like

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Speaker 4: It's like it comes out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: There's no justification for it, it doesn't tie into it,

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Speaker 1: and you're just going, okay, into a kid, just as

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Speaker 4: Do with any anything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And for whatever reason, they got to make sure

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Speaker 3: We're literally got that across that tea. Okay, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: All right, So you want to hear somebody who's got

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Speaker 3: no self awareness whatsoever, get a with Jimmy hasm the

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Speaker 3: owner of the Cleveland Browns. When there was some discussion

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Speaker 3: about whether or not Andrew Berry, current GM and now

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Speaker 3: former head coach Kevin Stefanski could get along, some of.

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Speaker 7: You said this is a dysfunctional building. I'd take a

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Speaker 7: huge exception of that. The two of them work just

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Speaker 7: like this, okay, and they talk all the time. Their

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Speaker 7: offices are basically next door to each other. I mean,

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Speaker 7: is there tension in the building, of course, I mean

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Speaker 7: there's this is a hard business, and there's lots of

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Speaker 7: stuff going on, but the two of them work together

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Speaker 7: extremely well, extremely well started. I can't calm on that

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Speaker 7: one thing, Tony. But if anybody says this is dysfunctional,

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Speaker 7: well though two of them did not work well, but

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Speaker 7: that's dead wrong.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: The question that was being asked was why would Kevin

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Speaker 5: Stefanski be surprised that Joe Flacco was traded in the

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Speaker 5: division in.

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Speaker 4: The middle of the year, which, by the way, how

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Speaker 4: many times does that happen? It's crazy, It's great.

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Speaker 5: That's why Mike Tomlin was so outspoken about it, because

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Speaker 5: he's like, look, man, why would you do that? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: like Stefanski's a buddy of his and Stefanski it's it's

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Speaker 5: the most If you go back and listen to Stefanski

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Speaker 5: after that came out, it's the most frustrated I'd ever

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Speaker 5: heard him in Cleveland. I'd never heard him get frustrated,

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Speaker 5: be impatient anything with the media, even with all the

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Speaker 5: Flacco trade. I was the most frustrated he sounded, because

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Speaker 5: he was like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: What is happening here?

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Speaker 1: I find it fascinating you have an owner who's taken

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Speaker 1: over as the majority owner back in October of twenty twelve. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in that time they've fired seven coaches. The list of

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Speaker 1: coaches Pat Shermer, Robchazinsky only got one year, and I

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Speaker 1: guess in Jimmy Haslam's defense, he inherited Pat Shermer, but

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Speaker 1: Rocherz Incy only got one year.

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Speaker 4: That was his first hire, a.

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Speaker 1: Guy who like bled, sweat everything for the Browns, you know,

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Speaker 1: from that like northern part of Ohio, and had been

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Speaker 1: there with me as an oc. He loved everything about

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Speaker 1: that place, and only gave him a year. Hire's Mike Petton,

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Speaker 1: he gets two years, he gets fired. Hires Hugh Jackson,

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Speaker 1: he gets three years. We'll get into that. He gets fired,

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Speaker 1: Greg Williams, he steps in for half a season, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was, he gets fired. Freddy Kitchens one season, one

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Speaker 1: and done. He's fired. At least Kevin Stefansy got more time,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of that was because when he first

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Speaker 1: got there, he wins the APNFL Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: and they end up going to the playoffs at.

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Speaker 4: Eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: Next year, got rid of Mayfield after they when AD

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Speaker 1: nine missed the playoffs. Remember Mayfield's playing banged up to

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Speaker 1: can't figure out a long term contract. Whatever rift happened, happened.

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Speaker 1: You know, they bring in Watson, they'll go seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Then Watson gets hurt and Flaker comes in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: another playoff year, but comes in as their fourth quarterback

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Speaker 1: that season. Stefanski once again wins Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: three and fourteen, five and twelve. So there's your track

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Speaker 1: record of him as an owner. And I think in

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Speaker 1: that timeframe, if it's not the most coaches who have

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Speaker 1: And somehow Andrew Berry's safe in all this like, he

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Speaker 4: Seventy, he was a part of that.

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Speaker 4: That's dysfunctional.

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Speaker 3: The sun shines on a blind dog's ass once in

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Speaker 4: Trying to change.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if maybe at night, he's looking

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, So basically, no self awareness, Like he's

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Speaker 5: he could be aware. He just might be embarrassed to

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Speaker 4: So walk. Sometimes ego can get in the way of

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Speaker 5: Well, all right, So I don't care how big your

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Speaker 5: you mean, what's the problem, dude? It's not teams whiff

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Speaker 5: You got Baker Mayfield, who's flourished in Tampa Bay, whatever

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Speaker 5: you think of it. You know, he was banged up

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Speaker 5: You let him walk. Kevin Stefanski's going to get hired

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Speaker 5: somewhere as a two time Coach of the Year, you

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Speaker 5: let him walk. It's just time after time after time,

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Speaker 4: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: It is like you can't have this sort of string

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Speaker 3: It's not too many. Yeah, I can't off the top

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like, hey, I'm by the way, yeah,

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Speaker 1: only three starters only.

437
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Speaker 3: It was last it was either less, the season hadn't started.

438
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Speaker 3: You had cited.

439
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Speaker 5: It was one of the seasons that it was like

440
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Speaker 5: at least six quarterbacks played started or played for.

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Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns. I think it was six, I'm pretty certain.

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Speaker 1: And for all those Browns fans that are upset about

443
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Speaker 1: the manner in which I'm taking this or or what

444
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I did pick them with the Super Bowl

445
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Speaker 1: or if they go to the Super Bowl like two

446
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Speaker 1: years and you did, Yeah I did, you did, and

447
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: obviously that was well off.

448
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Speaker 4: So y'all can be upset all you want.

449
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Speaker 1: But I've been in this corner for a long time

450
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Speaker 1: as a childhood fan as a player, which you know,

451
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Speaker 1: it was different ownership back then. And this is the

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Speaker 1: one thing I've always said like about Jimmy HASLM is

453
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Speaker 1: he's got deep pockets and he's willing to spend and

454
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Speaker 1: so as much as there is dysfunction, like he still

455
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Speaker 1: has the capabilities of turning this thing around.

456
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Speaker 4: Now you want to talk about the Raiders.

457
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: The Raiders are a whole different conversation and we can

458
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Speaker 1: talk about that tomorrow or there's some others. But like again,

459
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Speaker 1: I think the Giants have money. There's other organizations where

460
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Speaker 1: they don't have to necessarily go out to raise capital

461
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Speaker 1: or bring in limited partners to get cash to then

462
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Speaker 1: spend and turn this thing around. Like Jimmy HASLM has

463
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Speaker 1: money and he's willing to spend it. We saw it

464
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Speaker 1: with the Miles Garrett conchact. We saw other players contracts

465
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Speaker 1: Watson we mentioned. So that is the one optimistic approach

466
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Speaker 1: outside of we were drafting. But also you have an

467
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Speaker 1: owner that's willing to spend that money. He's not just

468
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Speaker 1: trying to hold it all and make a profit and

469
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Speaker 1: take a bunch of money off the table.

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Speaker 3: I just think you got to change the name in

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Speaker 3: order to change the direction of the franchise.

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Speaker 4: Just start there. What are you going with? Start there?

473
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Speaker 4: You skit mark.

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Speaker 3: If you got the skit mark on your trousers and

475
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Speaker 3: you're not going to take them off.

476
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Speaker 4: Then that's on you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, And the fact that they've been the diapers

478
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Speaker 3: high whatever it is you went down that lane.

479
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Speaker 4: Jonas had a close call with some dairy. That's why

480
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Speaker 4: he brings that up recently. What do you mean is

481
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Speaker 4: he because he has those.

482
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Speaker 1: Real life experiences where he's lactose intolerant of army too, and.

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Speaker 4: He'll hit me up and be like, yep, almost happened. Hey,

484
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Speaker 4: by the way, almost happen. Let's not.

485
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Speaker 5: Let's not act like you don't also fall victim to

486
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Speaker 5: that in the in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: All right, Brady is charged. I turned forty and all

488
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: of a sudden, a lot of things change.

489
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Speaker 5: Freaks realize slowly that milkshake fetish that lands differently past forty.

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Speaker 1: Dad, that's good, all right. We had a long drive home.

491
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Speaker 1: I can sit well. I had that happen yesterday at

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Speaker 1: the barber shop. I was like, yeah, just wait till

493
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Speaker 1: I get home. Always always wait, do you guys happen

494
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Speaker 1: to have a restaurroom? It's the worst one.

495
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Speaker 3: You got to take a long time before you come out,

496
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Speaker 3: Like if you could be quick with your your you know,

497
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: entry and departure, it's yeah, but when you when you're

498
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Speaker 3: at an away game and you're in there for too long.

499
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Speaker 4: A year, everyone knows there's no escaping man.

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Speaker 3: And then the worst is when somebody doesn't give it

501
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Speaker 3: that that grace period before they go in there. Oh no,

502
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Speaker 3: and you got to sit there and you're like looking

503
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Speaker 3: around like why you're gonna go in there?

504
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Speaker 4: Why why would you go in there?

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Speaker 3: And then the one time I don't have like lighter

506
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Speaker 3: with me, or they don't have a lighter in the bathroom,

507
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Speaker 3: but they have like incense or something like that that

508
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Speaker 3: could be lit.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a lighter. It was bad I had

510
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Speaker 4: or does it have to be a match?

511
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: It needed to be something that I could light something

512
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Speaker 3: with fire in order to take away knock down some

513
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: of the arrogance that came out of me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the problem is there's a smoke alarm in there.

515
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: Then no, that wouldn't have been that much smoke. It

516
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: just would have been like a little Yeah, not like that.

517
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 5: That's a little extreme. That's a little extreme.

518
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Speaker 4: The crazy thing is when I saw it, I was like.

519
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Speaker 3: Would I do it? Like, Nah, I would choke, I

520
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: would choke. That's too much. That was too much.

521
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so it's too much. So diapers know

522
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: for a team name for the Browns, what about the Steamers.

523
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Speaker 4: I just think you got to change Browns.

524
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Speaker 3: I think you've already you're you've already set yourself back

525
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Speaker 3: by I want a Steamer be at this point, and

526
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Speaker 3: you're in your franchises, like when when the when the

527
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: Mayflowers left, when they came back, they brought them back. Like,

528
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: think about it. You went from the Browns to the Ravens. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

530
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Speaker 1: It pays homage obviously to their you know, legendary first

531
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Speaker 1: coach Paul Brown.

532
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, you know, I get it. But

533
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: we're so far away from Paul Brown.

534
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: We're so far away. Yeah, Like changing the name.

535
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Speaker 1: Do you know what one of their other options was

536
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: that they almost called them, what was it, the Cleveland Panthers.

537
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: That I would have no problem with that.

538
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: Now that does have a little bit of conflict because

539
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh has Panthers, and there is a very very long

540
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: lasting beef between Ohio and Pennsylvania. So I could see

541
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: if y'all didn't go with Panthers. But it sounds better

542
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: than Brown's. Yeah, that's all I'll say.

543
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: So. No, No, I.

544
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Speaker 1: Believe if the if the story of the legend is true,

545
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: they had a fan contest to pick the name, and

546
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: that's what the fans picked. So it is an interesting

547
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: thing to bring up because maybe they have the fans picked.

548
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: Well, So here's a problem with that.

549
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Then don't accuse the owner of being dysfunctional when the

550
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: fans are dysfunctional too, Because while I would love to

551
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: pay homage to Chuck Knowle, I would never want to

552
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: call the Sburg Steelers the Knowles Pittsburgh Knowles. No, I

553
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to do it. Not bad, No, it's not bad.

554
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: It's not great, all right, better than Brown's. Yeah, not

555
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: a fan of the I knew you had to do it.

556
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: You had to do it, not hning you over.

557
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Speaker 4: All right, it's cot up next year.

562
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Speaker 5: We got some tough decisions that have been made in

563
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: the National Football League and they're yours right here on FSR.

564
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: You know what, you can walk into a nice pizza

565
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: and if you do it before the hut, well that's

566
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: a challenge with the.

567
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks from Pizza Hut. That's right. We got another message

568
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Speaker 4: for the fans.

569
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Speaker 3: Don't forget to order Pizza Hut before the first hut

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Speaker 3: is Yaled Jonas Knox.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

572
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: And here's the move. The Big New Yorker. It is

573
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Speaker 5: their biggest pizza for the biggest games. It's massive, with

574
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Speaker 5: slices so big you have to fold them like true

575
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: New York sivis. And right now it's just ten bucks.

576
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: Ten bucks, ten bucks to get all that pah. I'm

577
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: talking about the Big New Yorker. Pat that's right, Grab

578
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: the big one and fold it.

579
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: If you can handle it. You know what it is.

580
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: You gotta figure it out, and you know what, what's

581
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: your Pizza Hut order?

582
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: It could be the Big New Yorker, it could be

583
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: something else. Personally, I like the meat lovers with some

584
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: mushrooms too.

585
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: A huge fan, huge fan, not so much the mushrooms,

586
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: but a big fan of the Big New Yorker because

587
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Speaker 5: you know, man, like you were saying, bar, yeah, I

588
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 5: like to fold it.

589
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, any big games this weekend, just

590
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: don't forget about the pizza before the hut because you

591
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: can get that pizza for ten bucks. That was a

592
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Speaker 3: bar and you know what, order the Big New Yorker

593
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Speaker 3: like jonahs it and don't wait, it's just ten bucks.

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Speaker 4: All right day, bang it out, go ahead, bar take

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Speaker 4: your victory.

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Speaker 3: Laugh.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't need to. I don't need to. You know,

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Speaker 4: I throw things out there.

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Speaker 3: Y'all be trying to shoot me down or make it

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Speaker 3: racial or whatever, But you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Just playing stuff out there. What am I missing?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing, nothing. John har John Harbor has been fired.

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Speaker 3: No, oh he lost his job. Yeah, oh here comes Q.

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Speaker 3: Here go ahead, Q. We did yeh got.

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Speaker 4: What am I missing? Nothing? Go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Go it?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm a bit surprised she's immediately.

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Speaker 1: The most interesting report I saw about this was there's

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Speaker 1: six openings in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's a lot, and he had seven teams in choirir,

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Speaker 4: dang ah, do you well?

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Speaker 5: Are you looking for the other teams? Probably Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 5: it would be my guess.

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Speaker 1: I found that kind of interesting that there's obviously someone

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Speaker 1: who's back channeling to potentially bring him as the next

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Speaker 1: head coach. And rightfully so, when you go eighteen years,

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Speaker 1: twelve times in the playoffs win a super Bowl, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be that guy. And I do wonder for

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and if the report of Steve Bushatti is frustrated

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Speaker 1: with his inability to win the playoffs, they just waited

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Speaker 1: for that down year and now they're like, all right,

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Speaker 1: time to move on, or if there's more there and

656
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Speaker 1: they feel like there needs to be a better marriage

657
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: between their quarterback and their head coach.

658
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: I just think this is the new standard. It really is,

659
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: and it's going to take a lot of a lot

660
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: of elements of factors falling into place for a coach

661
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: to have as long a tenure as as a hardball

662
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: he had an amazing run. It was a long long time.

663
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: Was almost two decades? What was it like, eighteen years?

664
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: Eighteen years?

665
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, just said eighten years. So I just don't think

666
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: that you're when we say what have you done for me? Lately?

667
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: That's always been a term that's been connected to the

668
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: National Football League and to pro sports in general, but

669
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: I think it's taken on an entirely different meaning. And

670
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: and and again. I said this on the show yesterday.

671
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: It used to.

672
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: Seem like you got at least three years before you

673
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: were measured and weighed on if you were going to

674
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: lose your job as a coach. You get one that's new,

675
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: that's the new norm, that's the new standard. Coaches are

676
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: being looked at the same way players are. And that

677
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: for me, that's my kind of for me, my epiphany

678
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: on on black Mondays is that coaches nowadays you have

679
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: to be prepared for your coach, for your team, or

680
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: just in general, be prepared for coaches to be fired

681
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: and and not take long for it to happen. And

682
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: so it'll be interesting to see how many of these coaches,

683
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: and there are some really really fine coaches that are

684
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: emerging a new guard, so to speak, of coaches emerging

685
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: in the league. It'll be interesting to see how much

686
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: tenure is a part of these guys's jobs anymore. Because

687
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: I don't think it's racially based. Some may may try

688
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: to make it a racial thing and something we keep

689
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: going back to that. I was just making my point.

690
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: That's all I think. I think is someone saying it's

691
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: racially based. No, no, no, no, I was just I

692
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: was just making a point, that's all. I was joking

693
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: about it earlier because you know Jonahs always, you know Jonah,

694
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: because I was making the comparison early on when I

695
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: was talking about this before it happened, I was comparing

696
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: the two jobs of Harball and Mike Tomlin, and I

697
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: said a few times, these were both two very comparable situations.

698
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: So that was where the whole early part of the

699
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: racial part of it came from. But this was just

700
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: part of my point, my point. You know a lot

701
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: of times, you know, I've heard a lot about the

702
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Rooney rule as of late. I know Whitlow came out

703
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: and said that firing firing coaches very early. Is has

704
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: become a part of you know, the death of the

705
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: Rooney rule and stuff like that. Anyways, this is just

706
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: me paying attention to things that are out there, but

707
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: just making it a general point in my my point.

708
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Rachel, I really don't. I think

709
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: that this is the new norm of you have this

710
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: amount of time to get results, and I think that

711
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: it is gauged and it is measured not only by

712
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: the year, it might be gauged and measured by the game.

713
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: And and that's the new norm.

714
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: And and that's what comes with having a high profile

715
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 3: job like a head coach in the NFL.

716
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: Worse, I don't understand where the race thing comes into it,

717
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: like the fancy that clip Dave all guy clip correct, And.

718
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: I think I think that that's where it makes it.

719
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 4: Carol got clip, Like what are we talking about?

720
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: I think that that's where it makes it maybe, And

721
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: I feel attacked. Yeah right, yeah again, I'm just making

722
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: my point. No, I'm hitting on my my my point topics.

723
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 5: I did not make it Rachel with what I'm saying.

724
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying, but.

725
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Like I guess I'm just curious, like who's making it, Rachel,

726
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't.

727
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: I don't get it, you know, I'm just making my point.

728
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: I think that sometimes you get caught up into what

729
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: you're thinking, and that's really all that matters.

730
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: I'm just making a general point. That's that's all I'm doing.

731
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 5: He's just making a general point.

732
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: In this situation specifically, the examples are the examples they

733
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: I mean, they are the examples that it's not. It's

734
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: not I'm not saying saying it based upon who just

735
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: got fired. I'm saying in general and totality when you

736
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: think about the conversations.

737
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: That do circulate. I just put it in there.

738
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: Because that is sometimes a topic that becomes a part

739
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: of the discussion.

740
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 5: That's all In this case specifically, this is my my

741
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: guess as to what happened, because there were some reports

742
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: that John Harbaugh refused to fire offensive coordinator Todd.

743
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 4: Monkin, like he wasn't going to fire him.

744
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 5: And if you go back to the story that came

745
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 5: out from the Baltimore on from Mike Preston that talked

746
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: about Lamar falling asleep in meetings and staying up playing

747
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 5: video games and all that stuff, it felt like things

748
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 5: were awkward, and the fact that that story even made

749
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 5: the rounds like that, that feels like and we're going

750
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: to get into dysfunctional organizations in the NFL. That felt

751
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 5: like a dysfunctional aspect of the organization. Why would that

752
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 5: be out Why would that be a conversation to be had?

753
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: And I wonder if John Harbaugh got to the point,

754
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: because he reportedly was surprised that it got here and

755
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: it happened real quick. He didn't even have a time

756
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 5: to tell his assistance like they had they found out,

757
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: you know elsewhere.

758
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: I do wonder if John Harbaugh.

759
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: Got to a point to where he's like, look, man,

760
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: I'm not going to fire another coordinator. I'm not going

761
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: to make a change here. We've got a problem. And

762
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 5: the problem is we've got a quarterback that we can't

763
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: depend on from a health standpoint. He doesn't even practice

764
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: full weeks anymore. It's not a coordinator problem. We need more,

765
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: whether you want to call it buy in or more

766
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: consistency from that guy. That's really the issue here, and

767
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 5: the organization looking at it said maybe we got to choose.

768
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: We got to choose Lamar Jackson, we got to choose

769
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh. If this is the direction. If this is

770
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: where we're at, that's that's the way we're going with this,

771
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 5: because it just it felt like it got to the

772
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 5: point where stories like that get out. It got uncomfortable,

773
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 5: it got awkward, and here we are and now he's

774
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, the hottest name on the market. But I

775
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 5: just think it deteriorated that relationship between him and Lamar Jackson.

776
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the tough thing is when you

777
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: coach somewhere for eighteen years, you know, the culture, like,

778
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: you're not upholding it anymore as the coach. It's usually

779
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: the players. And that's what's tough about it is if

780
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: you've got this sort of fracture with the other person

781
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: who's you know, viewed as the most important next to

782
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the coach, and he's not buying in or he's not

783
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, able to respect you, that becomes an issue.

784
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of memes and things put out

785
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: there about Miles Garrett and the Browns and Kevin Stefanski after.

786
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: His firing there was a video that was going viral

787
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: and it doesn't take much.

788
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: And then in this case, I think the tough part is,

789
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Super Bowls won before Lamar got there.

790
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, if John Harbaugh and Lamar had won that

791
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl together, but probably feel a little bit different, right,

792
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: there'd be that tie, that that history and maybe even

793
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: more respect. But really, in reality, Lamar kind of saved

794
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. You know, people will tend to forget, you know,

795
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: after that Super Bowl in twenty twelve, the Bravens only

796
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: made one playoff run before Lamar was drafted, and he

797
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: came in that what twenty eighteen year Leo ten and six.

798
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: They get to the playoffs, excuse me, they lose in

799
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: the wildcard round, but then you look at the next year,

800
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: I believe that was his MVP. They go fourteen to two.

801
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: They end up losing in the divisional round. You know,

802
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: next year again divisional round loss, but they went They

803
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: ripped off a string of playoff runs, you know, missed

804
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, but then again the same thing

805
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: three years in a row. This is the first year

806
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: they've missed it in the last four and in large part,

807
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I think when you're looking at this team, at every

808
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: like piece that makes the fabric of what the Ravens

809
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: have been. You know, defensive minded, you know, the tough,

810
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: physical run game and all that. They're just inconsistencies with

811
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: all of it, and it all seemed like it was

812
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: coming apart of the seams. So I think the lack

813
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: of maybe history between the two and the success, you know,

814
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: where we've always kind of said to this as like

815
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: an annual team that we look at as a playoff team.

816
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: But what are the gonna do once they get in

817
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: the playoffs?

818
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: And at some point when you're not getting in the playoffs,

819
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: you're not winning the super Bowls and you're not going

820
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: to the runs like you think you should. When you

821
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: got a two time MVP, who's the fingerbee, We're gonna

822
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: be pointed at and they're gonna have to pick one,

823
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: and they chose. They chose Lamar probably over John Harbaugh

824
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: with at least based on reports how things were coming,

825
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, coming out about whatever relationship had deteriorated.

826
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: So it is what it is.

827
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Hartball's gonna be coaching somewhere else if

828
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: he wants, He's gonna have many opportunities. I think he's

829
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: earned that, and there's an organization that benefits from it.

830
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: And for the Baltimore Ravens. And one thing you can

831
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: say they've done well is they've had a ton of stability.

832
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: They have hired really good assistants who have moved on

833
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, for example, the head coach of the Seahawks.

834
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: So there is some optimism too as to who they

835
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: hire as their next head coach being a fit and

836
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I think ultimately that guy will probably be someone that

837
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: they want to be.

838
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: Able to work well with Lamar.

839
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: And if I'm Steve Bushatti and I end up choosing

840
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: Lamar over John Harbaugh, if things are true there are

841
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: some fractures there in their relationship, he should probably be

842
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: a little bit part of the conversation about who that

843
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: next head coach is, who he wants to work with,

844
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: and making sure they have a good working relationship to

845
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: make this work.

846
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: I think that's dangerous. I think it's dangerous where.

847
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to say that, but that's the reality

848
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: of whoever's coming in next, right, Like those two have

849
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: to work together. And regardless of a coach and him

850
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: having that different position between the two, you've you've already

851
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: made that the kind of dangerous decision of moving on

852
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: from a coach who was probably trying to uphold what

853
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: he was trying to uphold with with his culture and

854
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: his environment.

855
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: All that got Let me ask you guys a question.

856
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: When Lamar was in the situation trying to get his

857
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: contract done, did he end up getting the deal that

858
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: he wanted? Would we say he got the deal that

859
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: he wanted?

860
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

861
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: Or I think the deal it was fully guaranteed, which

862
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: was not that But he got a good deal.

863
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: How I mean in terms of if you're gauging and

864
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: measuring if Lamar was happy with the result, whether he

865
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 3: got it fully guaranteed or not. Was it a win

866
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: contract for him? Did he would you say he got

867
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: his way or not?

868
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: Yes?

869
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 7: No?

870
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got his way? Yes, sure, sure.

871
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: I just think that there's a pattern here, and I

872
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: think Harball Harball is is collateral damage to a pattern

873
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: that is is now developed, which is Lamar Jackson is

874
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: going to get his way enable, he's enabled and and

875
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: and for the reports to just recently surface as to

876
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: this possible, would you have been able to say there's

877
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: a fracture between Harball and Jackson before now?

878
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: No? No, So I just.

879
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: Think that there's there's there's danger here if that is

880
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: indeed the thought process of how things are being handled,

881
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: because for what it's worth is talented as as Lamar

882
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 3: Jackson is and has been for this team, as much

883
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: of a rising tide as he's been for the Ravens,

884
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: and the excitement of what he brings to the table,

885
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: he hasn't delivered. He has not delivered what it is

886
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: that comes with the amount of fan fear that's connected

887
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: to him. The Ravens have a very very nice tradition

888
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: of those players actually proving out in the history of

889
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: their franchise, whether it be Jonathan Ogden on the offensive

890
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: side of the ball or ray Lewis on the other

891
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: side of the ball, Terrell Suggs. They've delivered super Bowls

892
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: to the city. So a star warth player for this

893
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: organization is it's important that you get to the pinnacle

894
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: of what that represents. Doesn't exist for every every single franchise,

895
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: but it does for the Ravens. I just think that

896
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: for what it's worth, the standard that they've created, the

897
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: reputation that they've created in Baltimore, if that is indeed

898
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson being catered to in this scenario, and that's

899
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: what led to this and that's what will lead to

900
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: the next head coach and what they're what their success

901
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: level is measured on. It's a dangerous It's that is

902
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: a dangerous foundation to build what you're building.

903
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: That's what I would say.

904
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I think what's dangerous about it is they've got they've

905
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: got a restructure as contract, which I think you knew

906
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: once Hardball's gone that this is going to happen, and

907
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: it's going to happen in a manner that probably extends

908
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: him out at least a couple of years.

909
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: He's a seventy four point five million dollar capet this year.

910
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: It's way too high, and so they're going to restructure it.

911
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: How that process goes will be interesting because again he

912
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have representation.

913
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: He represents himself.

914
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: So maybe it will be smoother this this time around,

915
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: especially if they bring in a coach that he wants

916
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: to play with, or a coach coach that's really brought

917
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: in for him to work with and maximize the skills.

918
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: But that's definitely something to keep an eye on this

919
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: offseason in regards to Baltimore and how.

920
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 4: This whole thing plays out. Yeah, that's it makes the.

921
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: Playoffs even more interesting though, because again I don't I

922
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: don't know that Tomlin is safe I don't know that

923
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: making it to the playoffs is good enough.

924
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 4: I don't know that.

925
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: I don't know that this becomes the narrative for the

926
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills next year if they don't do well in

927
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Like, there are storylines underlying storylines connected to

928
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: some of these you know what's happening right now, especially

929
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: with the Ravens. There's going to be the same type

930
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 3: of narrative or conversations in that same realm that takes

931
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 3: place depending on what the success level of the run

932
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: is within the playoffs.

933
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: Can I do a hypothetical? Well, well, as I said,

934
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: there's Tomlin, there's McDermott. Yeah, there's a number of that

935
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: are feeling that pressure, right, I would assume. So if

936
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: Tyler Loop makes that kick.

937
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? It's not even Tomlin's day. We're talking

938
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: about ty three.

939
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 5: How many travels he missed a kick by like six

940
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 5: seven feet whatever?

941
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 4: I just see though, kind of wild.

942
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, I just like, I know we want to paint

943
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: it out because of the outcome and whoever ended.

944
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 4: Up losing out in the division.

945
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: You know, there was going to be more angst for

946
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: not being in the postseason not but it doesn't boil

947
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: down to me to one kick, one game, And if

948
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for as the reason to then

949
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: justify why you're moving on from a coach, I just

950
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's the beginning of a of

951
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: an even worse situation, Like you should probably have a

952
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: list of things that you feel like are the reasons

953
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: as to why, And I'm sure Steve Bashatti does, or

954
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: you know some else who's helping him with them. Maybe

955
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: it's Eric DaCosta, the general manager. But I think the

956
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: point of like loyalty to their staff. You know, if

957
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: you really look at it, it's like, yo, okay, you

958
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: want to move on from Todd Mugen. That sounds like

959
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: there was something else going on offensively, because their offense

960
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: was better than their defense. Their defense is what's let

961
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: them down. They're twenty fourth ranked in the league. We

962
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: can comb through whatever else. I mean, they're awful against

963
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: the pass. They had a tough time getting a pass rush.

964
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: It's just this was not a great defensive team this year,

965
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: and Baltimore has been known for that. But to the

966
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: greater point of these coaches keeping loyalty through their assistance,

967
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: that was the same thing with Jonathan Gannon, like you

968
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: go through that firing, I would imagine now it doesn't

969
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: come out, But in the early part of the year

970
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: it was Drew Petsing their OC who struggled. In the

971
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: latter part of the year, it was Rawless their DC,

972
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: and I would I would imagine that way it went

973
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: again and said, hey, we need you. If you're going

974
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: to stay for another year, make some changes. And he's like,

975
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm staying loyal to these guys. These coaching circles are tight.

976
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: Now people have to realize these guys end up hiring

977
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: each other later on. It's all ancestual, Like all these

978
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: these guys are you know, they don't want to burn

979
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: those bridges with one another, and they want to stay

980
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: loyalton because they know they'll get another opportunity.

981
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: It's very real. That's very real.

982
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 3: I think that's the reason for the reporting on the relationship,

983
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: because you can't justify it on a miss Field goals

984
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: to his.

985
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 5: Body of work is too strong because the issues are

986
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: still there, Like if he makes that kick and we're

987
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 5: talking about Ravens Texans and you know if Baltimore, you know,

988
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: gets beat by Houston, you know, the first round of

989
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

990
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: The issues are still there in the conversation, and then

991
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: it gets released.

992
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: Then right then then the relationship, dynamic, conflict, whatever you

993
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 3: want to call it, it is released.

994
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: Then I think it's still to the point.

995
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: I think you guys are making valid you know, insertions

996
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: that that isn't it. It wasn't a missfield goal. It

997
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: was just that was the proper time to put this

998
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: information out there. Add that to whatever it is that

999
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 3: your your reasoning is to wait it to let a

1000
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 3: very very well accomplished coach, a long tenured coach go

1001
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: from your organization. I think that that's just how it works.

1002
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of things. Tomlin doesn't have that

1003
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: same issue right as far as this relationship with this quarterback.

1004
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: So I feel like that I'm not sure what you

1005
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: draw what you draw to, it's just the locker room

1006
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: culture and success. It's it's it's the same, it's the

1007
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: same narrative. It's just not connected to a franchise player.

1008
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: It's the it's the culture of the locker room that

1009
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has highlighted, the deterioration of it. People looking

1010
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: at how these these receivers crash out and why they're

1011
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: allowed to do it and they're able to do it.

1012
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: Those are the things.

1013
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 3: That people use as as leverage and ammunition to create

1014
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: what we're talking about with Harball with Tomlin again, That's

1015
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: why I thought that it was such a relative conversation

1016
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: and speaking both their names pretty much in the same conversation.

1017
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: You know, I.

1018
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: Really do believe whoever lost that game was going to

1019
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: be a part of this conversation today. And I don't

1020
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: know what Tomlin is out of the woods on that.

1021
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: Okay, to that point, can we get some games show music?

1022
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: Because I want to ask you guys a question that

1023
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: I think I think it warrants some game show music

1024
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: that's perfect. Which one of these playoff teams head coaches

1025
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: gets the acts with a loss in the wildcard? Rind

1026
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: LeVar Arringtons, Pittsburgh Steelers, somebody Tomlin? Or could it be

1027
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and Sean mcdermoy or finally that Lafour

1028
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers.

1029
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: Take your pic, guentlemen, Now, does it have to be

1030
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: a firing or.

1031
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: What about stepping away?

1032
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: They're gone, Okay, gone, like however you want to say it.

1033
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: They're not Jared Mike Tomlin knocks locks. All right, now,

1034
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: what if all three of these teams lost?

1035
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: You gotta take your pick, buddy, who's the one you

1036
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: feel most like? Who's seat right now? You have to

1037
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: stand up? It's just too hot.

1038
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like Mike Tomlin's seat. I don't

1039
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 3: even feel like Mike Tomlin is sitting in the seat.

1040
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: I honestly believe he will need a new seat if

1041
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: he makes it out of this season. That's how hot

1042
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: his seat is, burnt up, Like, I don't even need

1043
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: this seat no more. I don't need to even sit

1044
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: in that one, y'all. I did well enough to still

1045
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: be here. Bring me another seat, Like that's how dagged

1046
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: up his seat is now.

1047
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: McDermott if I could really like.

1048
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 5: Expand McDermott is is.

1049
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: If he loses. I think it's the same situation. It

1050
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: just sneaks up on you.

1051
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 5: It's more harrballish than it is tomlin Ish, meaning it's

1052
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 5: like a harball you get like in your mind. It's like,

1053
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: I still feel like there's a reason why he should

1054
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 5: be the coach of this team. I don't feel like

1055
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 5: I feel like the narrative set up for Tomlin to

1056
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 5: take the fall for an underperformed season.

1057
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: I think McDermott is in harball situation. It's going to

1058
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: be like, we need to go in a different direction.

1059
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 5: The one time to go the one that is the

1060
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: wild card though no fun intended is Matt.

1061
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Said, Well, that's the one that I'm gonna touch on

1062
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One because you want to,

1063
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: all right, touch it, because you're a Bears fan. Given

1064
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: the fact that the Packers have, given the fact the

1065
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: Packers have dominated your Chicago Bears great so long, you

1066
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: would love nothing more than the Chicago Bears to get

1067
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: a wild card home playoff win versus the Green Bay

1068
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Packers and send Matt Lafleur. Pack will be shocked you

1069
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: didn't pick him. I think if you look at the

1070
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: track record. Look, here's the hard thing is, it's hard

1071
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: to not like, it's hard to make a case to

1072
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: not have him come back. He's missed the playoffs once

1073
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: with an eight and nine record. Although you kind of

1074
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: look at it and after the first few years once

1075
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: they have Rogers leave, it's been kind of tight. Like

1076
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: they were nine and eight a couple or a few

1077
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: years ago, whatever it was when they second mc north

1078
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, you know, two years or yeah, I

1079
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: guess you'd say the last season with eleven to six,

1080
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: but they lost the wild card round to Philly, which

1081
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: ended up going to win a Super Bowl, So maybe

1082
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: you don't do that quite as bad. And this year

1083
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: nine to seven to one, it's almost like they've I

1084
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: don't want to say underachieved, but I do wonder if

1085
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: there's someone who's looking at the Packers defensively, offensively, They've

1086
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: got a lot of young talent and saying like, are

1087
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: we maximizing what we have? And if we've got coaches

1088
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: like a John Harriball out there, liking Mike Tomlin out

1089
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: there who we want to kick.

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: The tires on the guys. Hell, if Sean McDermot gets gets, can't.

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Another person like I think these all these organizations, I

1092
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: guess we just lost the music.

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00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: All these organizations are going to be ready to dragged

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00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: jadd here.

1095
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: It didn't sound like the game was still going.

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: But the point is all these guys, I think there's

1097
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: a certain pressure because if some of those other jobs

1098
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: come open, I think some of.

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: The teams that have might say, we really like to

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00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: have that guy.

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: I think that's the point of it all, though, honestly,

1102
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: more than anything else, that's the point is that there

1103
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: are some quality coaches that are available now with some

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: teams that seemingly.

1105
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: If they can stay healthy. There's some health issues with

1106
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: Green Bay.

1107
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: But if you could stay healthy with the roster that

1108
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: you have, and you can add one of these coaches

1109
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: that are getting let go like a Stefanski, like a hardball,

1110
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: you got dang right.

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: I want to try to bring that guy in here

1112
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 4: to try to get this thing done.

1113
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 5: I'd like to just push back and set the record

1114
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 5: straight here. I don't root for anybody to lose their job.

1115
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 5: I think the idea that Matt.

1116
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: Lafleur is on the hot seat is preposterous.

1117
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: But but there's enough out there and enough people are

1118
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 5: talking about I'm like, man, maybe, like maybe you have

1119
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: to think.

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: It's a perfect storm.

1121
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: You gotta think it's a perfect storm because they're aligned,

1122
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: they're they're matched up against the Bears. Like, imagine that,

1123
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: like the feeling you get losing in the wildcard round

1124
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: against your divisional rival who has been the doormat to

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: your division for quite some time.

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: Yes, that to me, that's a perfect storm.

1127
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 5: You lose to a different team, maybe a little different,

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00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: but you're gonna lose to the Bears in.

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00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 4: The first round in the wildcart round.

1130
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: That could be extra addit Angston pressure, you know, towards

1131
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 5: towards the floor.

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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: I mean it won't happen.

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Split split the season two man, they split, So this

1134
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: could be the siding factor when it's all said and down.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: Very interesting.

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Speaking for the ones who get it done, Granger offers

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Speaker 1: access to over one million products in the scale to

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Speaker 1: deliver when, where and where you need them. The right

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Speaker 1: source and supplies are never far away. Call click Grainger

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Speaker 1: dot com or just stop by.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Granger could be a door prize that you get,

1142
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Right good? That's why the

1143
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: game us it Now the game is over, and so

1144
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: is this segment, Thank goodness. And the first part of

1145
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: the next segment is It's all gone.

1146
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 5: Two pros and radio format Jonas the Radio, the LeVar Arrington,

1147
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you Petty. Coming up next

1148
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: here we are going to tell you about somebody who

1149
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: will be looking elsewhere for yet another payday in the NFL.

1150
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 4: That'll be yours right here on FSR.

1151
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: Hey Jonas, heaven we told everybody about well the pizza

1152
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: before the.

1153
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 4: Challenge. I know that's right.

1154
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, Pizza Hut has another message for fans. Did

1156
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: you know this, Jonas, don't forget to order Pizza Hut

1157
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: before the first Hut is yelled.

1158
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: What do you pizza?

1159
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1160
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: Did you know that? I did know that. I know

1161
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: it now.

1162
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this.

1164
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: Here's the move. The Big New Yorker. It's their biggest

1165
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: pizza for the biggest games. You know, it's the playoffs.

1166
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: It's massive. Sure, is got a whole lot of sauce

1167
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: on it toppings if you want them for them, spicy

1168
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: them big slices you dig so big, you fold them.

1169
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: You fold them so you can get it in your mouth.

1170
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: All right, And I'm gonna tell you right now. If

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: you do it before they get to the Hut, all

1172
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: you gotta do is uh yeah, call in. You're gonna

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: be good man.

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: Love me the Big New Yorker. Do you love the

1175
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: Big New Yorker? Pig new Yeah Yorker. Yeah, that's right.

1176
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 4: And you know what, if that's your game day order,

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Speaker 4: then get it.

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Speaker 5: Get it?

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01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 4: You know why? Because big games. This weekend.

1180
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: You can't forget. You gotta get it before the hut.

1181
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: All right, you get it before the Hut. You're gonna

1182
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: get a great deal. You're gonna have a great time,

1183
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: You're gonna enjoy the game. And it's just ten bucks

1184
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: right now. As big as them slices are as big

1185
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: as this pizza is as big as the opportunity.

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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 4: He is then thoughts to order the hut before they

1187
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 4: say hut.

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, it's game time. Order that big New Yorker early.

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: Don't wait, it's just ten bucks.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

1192
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific

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Speaker 2: on Fuck Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 5: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We

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Speaker 5: are going to have another edition of in case you

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Speaker 5: missed it, coming up here in about ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, man, like people should enjoy the last

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Speaker 5: glimpse of football because it's not long before.

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Speaker 4: That's what we got. That so playing all we want.

1212
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: But there's always Godzilla movies. Yeah, the originals, not the

1213
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 3: new ones. That's a rough watch.

1214
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Speaker 4: So you're watching right now, Hey, man's a kind of

1215
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 4: Zilla movie in the studio.

1216
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: It makes you wonder, like what technology wasn't what it

1217
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 3: is now and you actually didn't know real from fake.

1218
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: It's so good.

1219
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there's something to be said about appreciating how

1220
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: horribly basic the graphics were on movies.

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like horribly great. Like I make my kids watch

1222
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: those movies home for this reason. It doesn't scare them

1223
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: because they're like, oh, Dad, looks so fake, And I'm

1224
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: like yep, that's right, and be scared of. And so

1225
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: you can watch some movies that normally you couldn't because

1226
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: they're so accustomed to like seeing more realistic CGI or

1227
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, graphics.

1228
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Speaker 4: So wowd bad, it's so wow watching these graphics. How

1229
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 4: much do you think this movie cost to me? Five thousands?

1230
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean the monsters or finger puppets, the.

1231
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: The scenery is what like a lego a lego to Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1232
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 5: that's get these legos?

1233
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 4: Which Godzilla is this? Oh, it's like it's brutal man

1234
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 4: god It's Godzilla versus Megalon, who.

1235
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: Doesn't even look mean, Like Godzilla doesn't even have a

1236
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 5: mean look to him, Like he looks like he's your buddy.

1237
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 5: It looks like an iguana. Yeah, I guana looks scary,

1238
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 5: like one of those ones that falls out of the

1239
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 5: tree when it gets cold. The new Godzilla, the new

1240
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 5: guy Megalon. The new Godzilla looks like an iguana and

1241
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 5: kind of like a dragon.

1242
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: This one looks came out in nineteen seventy three.

1243
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Dang, I wasn't even here, None of us was the

1244
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: first Godzilla took four million to make.

1245
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 5: That's crazy. That's way too much. I really it was

1246
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 5: in nineteen fifty four. It's way too much. The best

1247
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 5: a couple million will make.

1248
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: I wonder does it show how much it grossed, because

1249
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 3: you definitely went to the movies to watch Godzilla one hundred,

1250
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 3: but the one.

1251
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 6: That we're watching right now had a budget of one

1252
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 6: point two million.

1253
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 4: There you go one point two Did you go to

1254
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 4: the movies? Did you run for the hills?

1255
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 3: I was a moviegoer back in the day. Okay, I

1256
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: really believe people were able movie makers. Filmmakers were able

1257
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: to get away with what they were doing because all

1258
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: you have to do is have a good soundtrack, a

1259
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: big ad screen, and a good food bar up front,

1260
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: and you're good. You're good if you want to throw

1261
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of sugar on top of it. Have

1262
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 3: a bowling alley in there, you.

1263
01:05:59,480 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 4: Like you have an arcade in there. I'm with you.

1265
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 4: You know you got double Dragon you could go play,

1266
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: so you could play with a friend. Decent claw machine.

1267
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: This is no way, this is yes right, the nineteen

1268
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 4: seventy three film. There's some source that estimate it costs

1269
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: seven hundred and sixty thousand or one point two millions.

1270
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: Somewhere in there.

1271
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks right what I'm looking at. That looks

1272
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: about right the seventies. I mean, look, this is what

1273
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 5: this movie looks like. One page million for a finger.

1274
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 5: Jon Is, bring your truck, hey, you cue, bring your kids?

1275
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 5: All right, you're going to be the girl in the

1276
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 5: tressed do you know I'll.

1277
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 4: Be the monster? Patty Sweet's going being Godzilla?

1278
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Godzilla, the original, the original Godzilla. I reading this right,

1279
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: the Original Godzilla in nineteen fifty four. It was sixty

1280
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: two point nine million yen, which it's nine hundred thousand dollars,

1281
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: so not too far off. Actually, I think I was

1282
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: reading actually what it made in the box office.

1283
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 5: You know, it's depressing though. Even the vehicles in this

1284
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 5: candy ass cheeseball movie are nicer than my truck.

1285
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 4: That's a nice car he's driving. They've got look about it.

1286
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 5: Why you can get a new truck, you choose not loyalty, Okay, Yeah,

1287
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 5: I just want to see his wife's vehicle.

1288
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 4: I mean, seas.

1289
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: See, it's always it's always the dude that hat that

1290
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: that there's a Maserati park right next to the rusty,

1291
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: crusty ass vehicle.

1292
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 4: He's driving. There's always some batons or some guccheese or

1293
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 4: some some.

1294
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: Louis right across the hallway in the real closet, versus

1295
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: the broken down shoes that Jonas has at the door.

1296
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 4: Now, I know, I live it. I live it. What

1297
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: do you mean? I mean my car don't even work?

1298
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: Are you projecting right now? Yeah?

1299
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: Maybe my car don't even My car don't even works.

1300
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 3: With your car battery needs a battery, and I don't

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Speaker 3: feel like getting it.

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Speaker 4: It's like lazy, No, it needs one and there's a

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Speaker 4: chance it might not start. But you're okay, Oh no,

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Speaker 4: sure you're the type of guy to where your your

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Speaker 4: wife's gonna drive a.

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Speaker 3: Nicer car than you do, right, Oh yeah, because I

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Speaker 3: don't care about that stuff anyway.

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Speaker 4: are you happy? Okay? Good? There you go. Well I

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Speaker 4: know this It is another edition of In Case you

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