1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation 4 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. West Huuler and Matt 5 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: Williamson with you here for the next two hours on 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: a Tuesday. And Matt, Finally, after a crazy week that 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: involved the Steelers playing a game four thousand miles away 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: in Dublin, then followed by a bye week, then kind 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: of a really quick turnaround of Cleveland and the short 10 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: week in Cincinnati, we once again have Mike Tomlin and 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: his weekly press conference on a Tuesday afternoon, and it's 12 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: normal kind of time slot in time period that just 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: some kind of Tomlin press conference news of the day 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: to get us started. 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll be one hundred percent honest. I have 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: not heard it yet, so I'm excited to hear what 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: you have to say today. I love injury stuff, all 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: that could stuff. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I was down on the South Side doing 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: kind of the the preview in the wrap up show 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: with Jerry Dulac and here's some of the kind of 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: key things to uh to take to deduce, to hit upon, 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: to discuss namely, I mean the biggest thing that I 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: always went out of these press conferences is injury. Yeah, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: that's right. 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the the most pressing for the upcoming 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: week or you know. 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: And sometimes a lot of the other stuff can just 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: be coach speak. 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: You know. 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is far from the only person in the 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: league that does that. But I think you're only going 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: to get so much at press conferences. But one thing 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: that these guys kind of have to be upfront and 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: hodest about is the injury reports. And Matt, I mean, 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: for being six games into the season, for being at 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: about the halfway point of the NFL regular season here, 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: I think pretty optimistic in that regard for the Steelers. 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: He said, Calvin Austin will practice this week with that 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: shoulder injury he has remembered, didn't go on IR but 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: hasn't practiced yet. 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: That sounds about right if you're gonna be under four weeks. 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin said, and I quote, as I stand 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: here today, I'm optimistic talking about Calvin Austin's status for 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Sunday night, And then he added, we may have some 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: other veterans who have some bumps and bruises and get 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: some rest days and miss some practice, but other than that, 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: all should play. 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: I think again, for being six games into this thing 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: that's about, you're going to have bumps and bruises. You're 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: gonna have guys who are missing some time, sure, but 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: nothing debilitating, nothing long term, not to you know, your 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: quarterback or one of those guys on defense that you 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: would really hate to lose, or a DK Metcalf about 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: is optimistic about is of a good scenario as you 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: can be at this point in the calendar. 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: And you got a couple extra day's rest, and I'm 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: sure there's some embarrassment on the defensive side of the 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: ball too. That just festering and festering. You I would 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: expect a great week of practice and prep. That's already happened. 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: The injury stuff is wonderful. I know we have a 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: bunch of new listeners over the last couple of weeks, 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: thank you. So a guy like killer Brew wouldn't be 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: mentioned because he's on IR folks and any recent name. 67 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I should have mentioned that as well too. Mike Tomlin 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: did say Miles Killerbrew is out for the rest of 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: the year. 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I assumed that when it happened. Yes, okay, in. 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: That regard, again, that's not something that you want to see, 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: of course, but you are going to have those injuries, 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: and that is one that you wish Miles Killibrew was healthy, 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: but it is also you know, there they have I think, 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: navigated this thing without those true backbreaking type Joe Burrow 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: is going to be out for three months. Yeah, you 77 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: know type type. 78 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: Charger losing both tackles and Chargers. 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Losing both tackles and both running backs. You know, in 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: the first month of the season. 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Commanders didn't play with McLaurin or Debo, right, exactly right, 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: exactly real quick on Austin just wanted to comment on 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: this because well, bat curtain, I say that a lot anymore. 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: Tuesday morning is probably fifty percent of Matt's stats. Yeah, 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: I always wait till after Monday night football because are 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: you fourth in the league or sixth in the league? 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: You get right, right? And I knew Green Bay's run 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: defense was good, but it's really good. It's really good, 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: and they're gonna need Austin. They're gonna have to throw 90 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: the ball or maybe throw the ball down the field, 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, So Austin would be very. 92 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Helpful, very helpful, good good performance. I think to be 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: feeling as good as we've felt about the Steelers tight 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: ends as well too. So yeah, we will maybe not 95 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: as much today, but certainly tomorrow will start turning the 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: page plenty and previewing that big Sunday night matchup against 97 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. Last thing that I wanted to 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: hit on with you here, Matt, to kind of set 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: the scene before we get to Chris Adamski. In the 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 2: next segment, Mike Tomlin highlighted three areas where he thought 101 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: cost the Steelers against the Bengals. The first was failure 102 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: to stop the run and to do so effectively. Second 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: was losing a turnover battle, you know minus two when 104 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: you're when you're going on the road and playing a 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: close game. That is a quote catalyst for losing, according 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: to Mike Tomlin. And then he said number three, we 107 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: were highly penalized again, way too many penalties called on 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: us on two weeks in a row. 109 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: Two weeks in a row after being like the best 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: team in the league had been pretty long. 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: I think in the Browns game, you could at least say, okay, 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: it's Ron Tolbert's crew. Look at that scouting the officiating. 113 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: He's like his crew throws I think the most flags 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: of anybody in the NFL. So maybe you can have 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: a one off, but then two starts to become a pattern. 116 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I don't remember a lot of calls. 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: Wait games was like a million years ago. I don't 118 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: remember a lot of calls that I thought, Man, the 119 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: Seeters got screwed on that. Yeah, like you earned it. 120 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: You know. 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: It might have been a couple of fifty to fifty 122 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: calls that happens in the course of. 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: Every game, but they earned the high penalty, you know, 124 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: I think so too. So it's obvious Tomlin's very aware 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: of the hidden yardage game. I mean, that's part of why, 126 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: part of his a major part of. 127 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: His success over the years, absolutely part of quotes in 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: a lot, part of why he's been so good in 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: those one score games. And you can see some of 130 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: the key areas going against them last Thursday and why 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: they lost that one score game. We'll discuss all of 132 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: this and more with Chris Adamski when we return. On 133 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: the other side, was Shouler Matt Williamson getting going here 134 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: on a Thursday. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes. 136 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 137 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio. 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Tuesday, getting to 139 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: the news of the day. Mike tom Press conference in 140 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: the books, joining us now to discuss everything from Tomlin Tuesday, 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: looking back a little bit at the Bengals, maybe ahead 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: a little bit to the Packers. It is our friend 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Chris Adamski, of course covers the Steelers for the trib 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: and as the co host of the Steelers Blitz with 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: Tom opp for min at noon every single day right 146 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network as well. Buzz, thank 147 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: you for taking the time. As always, let's jump right 148 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: into it. Seems like fairly good news, listen. I don't 149 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: think there was a ton of good news that came 150 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: from the from the Steelers performance Thursday in Cincinnati, but 151 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: at least sounds like they got out of pay Course 152 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: Stadium relatively healthy, no major injuries, and I think even 153 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: you know, kind of very importantly could be getting Calvin 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Austin back to practice and potentially back in stadium here 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: this week. 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Calvin even on even yesterday at the facility, seemed optimistic. 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: He seemed like he was he knows, defer to coach 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: Tomlin for any official word, and of course, as everybody heard, 159 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: Tomlin did say that he's optimistic that that would be 160 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: he'd be able to come back this week. So it 161 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: does look like that's because I mean, how many catches 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: have road receivers gotten besides DK Metcalf these past two games. 163 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: If I'm off the top of my head, I believe 164 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: it's three right, two from Removation, one from Scotti Miller, 165 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: none from Skoronic, none from Keechawn Williams, and he played 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: one snap. So now, obviously, if you get tight in 167 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: production like you got this past Thursday, I guess you 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: don't need a number two wide receivers, which was sort 169 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: of like a narrative through the last throughout the summer here. 170 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, it would be certainly be much better, especially 171 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: to kind of unlock more of what's there with DK 172 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 4: Metcalf in terms of big plays and production, if you 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: if you had a viable another wide receiver on the field. 174 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: Chris, I should know this off the top of my head. 175 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: And hugua question I just asked Dale but the long week, 176 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: did they get an extra practice like in a bye 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 3: week situation. I don't think they do, right. They just 178 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: treated like a normal week of prep, right. 179 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny because I was confused myself yesterday because 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: we just had the the the yeah, the bye two 181 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: weeks ago, and there's another Monday, so I'm thinking the 182 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: same format. But no, there was no practice yesterday, And 183 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: at first I was wondering if it was a tom 184 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: and given the day off and that, No, it's it's uh, 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 4: they gets part of the yeah for Thursday night, which 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: is different than the it's been. It's been so irregular 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 4: with the Dublin trip and a Thursday game and a 188 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: bye week, it's been. It's finally gonna get routine here 189 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 4: knock on wood for the next uh next few Sundays. 190 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: I guess, Chris, Uh, there was some locker room availability, 191 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: I believe, and you know I I we you know, 192 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: Matt and I are obviously not in those in those situations, 193 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: in that orbit nearly as much as you are. We 194 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: are maybe a little bit, you know, during training camp 195 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: and OTAs and mini camp and things like that. But 196 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: one thing that kind of struck me and everything that 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: I've seen from the players that performance Thursday night is 198 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: it seems like there is And I don't want to 199 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: make it seem like they're happy in defeat or anything 200 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: like that, but it really does seem like there is 201 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: optimism amongst this offense, and I think particularly the offensive line, 202 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: like it felt like the first couple weeks of the season, 203 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: anytime we'd hear Broder Jones or Zach Frasier, Troy Faltanu 204 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: or Mason McCormick, any of those guys speak, it was 205 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: always a little more I don't want to say down trodden, 206 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: but that they were trying to kind of find the 207 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: answers and figure things out. Now a few weeks later, 208 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: those guys seem confident. Those guys seem excited. Those guys 209 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: seem like they are gelling and improving and they know it. 210 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: Do you sent some optimism around this offense and I 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: think in particularly with that young offensive line, that finally 212 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: feels like they found some footing. 213 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's a great point about the offensive line. 214 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: And it's still crazy because how it feels as if 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 4: we get so caught up and it's been it's been 216 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: six games, so the Union has only played together what 217 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 4: seven games you count the one by thought thought last 218 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: year actually Dan Moore was the left tackle, so they've 219 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: only played together six games still, and you still to 220 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: this point have what seven games NFL experience? Mason mccormick' 221 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: at what twenty two or twenty three at this point. 222 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: Roderick Jones is still fewer than would be a little 223 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 4: less than forty at this point. So you still have 224 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: Zach Frazier's what twenty two, So you still have a 225 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: really inexperienced line. And that's sometimes I wonder when you 226 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: hear these oh, well, we just need time to joe, 227 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: and you wonder how much that's sort of just I 228 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: don't know, coach speaker, just just sort of automatic people 229 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: just you ask the question, well, yeah, well we need 230 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: time to get together. But I think it's pretty inarguable 231 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: that the offensive line is better these past two or 232 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: three games than it was the first two or three games. 233 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: And I think you can just look at some of 234 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: the numbers no sacks the last two games, and I 235 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: do think a big part of that, just a little 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: bit of a tangent is hell, well, Aaron Rodgers is 237 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: moving in the pocket and moving me on a line 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. It's I can't get over it. I mean, 239 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: forty one years. I don't care if he's twenty one 240 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: or twenty three years old. I don't know if he 241 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 4: had a reputation of being a mobile court whoever you're 242 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: talking about. I'm talking about across the league, and to 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: the fact that he is forty one years old in 244 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: his twenty first season and you know, less than two 245 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: years removed from from major lower body surgery. That the 246 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: way he's moving around that helps a lot. And I 247 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: think the lineman of all acknowledge that. But I do 248 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: think kind of your your initial point when you started 249 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: that with about the mood, I think that's also part 250 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: of the Rogers effect. I think that he has whatever 251 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: it is, whether he had developed that over twenty one seasons, 252 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: or he knows his role or just his leadership style. 253 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: And he can be tough, that's for sure at certain times. 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: But I think he knows kind of to keep things 255 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: light no matter what, and after a loss. I think 256 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: there's almost a tendency with him and with some leaders, 257 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 4: a lot of leaders really that they're they're kind of, 258 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: you know, keep things lighter after a loss. Don't get 259 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: too down and maybe uh buffle dow a little bit 260 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: more after a win, I know, and that you can't 261 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: rest on your laurels. And I think there's a lot 262 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: of these those factors played into what you're talking about there. 263 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: So we're talking about a lot of promising things, important things, 264 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: but they're all in a kind of a positive light. 265 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: Injuries offense, I'm gonna go to the defense, which isn't 266 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: They're gonna bring the mood down a little bit after 267 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: that game. Two questions for you, And it's kind of 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: the use of personnel, especially as badly as they played. 269 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: And there's some hindsight here by me. I was shocked 270 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: how few snaps her Big played because I think he's 271 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: been maybe the best defender, I mean, one of their 272 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: best defenders on the field. Have you gotten any kind 273 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: of feedback from anyone of why his role got reduced 274 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: a little? And do you see any changes? Do we 275 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: know like what this safety rotation is gonna be? Could 276 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: Echos challenge Slay? Where's Holcombe versus Wilson? Are you getting 277 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: a might they make some changes? 278 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? The her Big thing I want for a while 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: now has been on and he's earned it, of course 280 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: sort of beyond coaching, right, it's not the decision of 281 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: the coaches. He knows when to come in and out. 282 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: They let him kind of be that monitor that himself 283 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: you see him come out. Some fans get up upset 284 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: about it, but like I always say, you know what 285 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 4: if he's one defensive player of the year but in 286 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: the top three, how many times you know if that's working? 287 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: You know why? I get it. 288 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: Squeeze a couple of snaps out of it or whatever. 289 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: But he if one thing we know about wat he's 290 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: a tactician, He's a uh he educates himself in the game, 291 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: and he feels that he's learned that his body's better 292 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: in these situations or whatever. So that would be the 293 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: one aspect of her big. Now the Highsmith thing playing 294 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: it is I believe I don't believe they went into 295 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: it thinking, well, we're gonna play her big thirty to 296 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: thirty seven percent. They probably thought higher. And it's just 297 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: sort of you know those things that he the moment 298 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: get away from you and then your high Smith is 299 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: out there. And we've certainly learned as a collective media 300 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: not to ask Mike Collin about it because you always 301 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: did the same enter and just says it's like, oh, 302 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: his game plow. And sometimes there's truth that at I 303 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: don't know how much it was in this past game, 304 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: because I mean, the Bengals threw the ball a lot, 305 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: so I don't know he was trying to just got 306 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: to say that it was the run game they ran. 307 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: They didn't they probably didn't. It ran better than everybody thought, 308 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: that's for sure, which is a whole other issue. But 309 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: so I would if I had to, you know, anticipate further. 310 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: I think there was kind of a I don't like 311 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: a hiccop or something, but it'd be more more than 312 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: what people want to see and what her BIG's earned 313 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: I think going forward. Yeah, I mean, as you like, 314 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: I will be fascinated to see how much because later 315 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: in that game it was more and more echoes and 316 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: less and less slay and you know, kind of for 317 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: good reason, I guess. So I do wonder, especially what 318 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: Sleigh is accomplished in this league and his you know, 319 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: super Bowl Champion, Player of the Year, you know, all 320 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: all all that stuff that he has and having fourteen 321 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: seasons or whatever, thirteen seasons, you know, that's that gets 322 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: kind of awkward there, and you know they'll ever make 323 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: a full change to that. But I mean they liked 324 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: or remember they brought Brandon Echles, well, it wasn't for 325 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: kind of what happened in late June becoming available Jaalen Ramsey. 326 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: They certainly didn't plan on that, or anticipate that or 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: bank on that. So Eckles was supposed to play a 328 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: sniffing and role in this year's defense and Mayde a 329 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: bunch of injuries this first few weeks, so he was 330 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: still out there a lot, but now everybody's back. I 331 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: think they wanted to get Eckles out there. So whether 332 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: you see it series by series or I imagine maybe 333 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: a matchup by matchup, Yeah, I definitely think that Eckles 334 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: will kind of, you know, eat into the sleighs playing 335 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: and we won't see Slagh out there hundred percent of snatches. 336 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: I think we did the first maybe weeks two and 337 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: three around that time. 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: What about Pepper's versus Clark versus Thornhill. I'm kind of 339 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: having a hard time and maybe you don't know the 340 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: answer either. I'd be shocked if anyone outside the organization does. 341 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't quite understand when they use each guy. 342 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you would think, you know, at the 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: top of your head or that the very simple view 344 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: of it, or you know that you might put Clark 345 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: might be more against the run, you know, you might 346 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: do things like that, but it hasn't really seen the 347 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: play out that way. And then you even go with 348 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: Clark was a healthy scratch the two weeks ago, and 349 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: he played a put a lot more. Then after that, 350 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, I want everybody's healthy again. And in 351 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 4: the minterium, since they signed Clark and since people started 352 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: hitting hurt, they bring on Peppers and maybe Clark's the 353 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 4: odd man out here from here forward. 354 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Peppers went past Clark, and then maybe he didn't, 355 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah. 356 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Peppers usually just been backed. And I 357 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: saw that it's obviously some degree of game plan and 358 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: who whatever the matchups are or whatever, and then maybe 359 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: that will continue. And that is I guess the luxury 360 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: or or one of the benefits they have. So all 361 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: the deep second, there all these guys we mentioned, they 362 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: we thought three of them they acquired after June thirtieth 363 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: in this offseason, and then Slave was early and that 364 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: Eckles was So when you bring it all these guys. 365 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: Part of the benefit is as long as everybody's on board, 366 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: is that you can use some of you at different 367 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: times and use it better. Now. Of course, the the 368 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: trick in that is knowing when it's the best to 369 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 4: deploy each of them so far and certainly doesn't buy 370 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: the the yard is given up in this last game, 371 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: and they probably they probably wouldn't modify that a little bit, 372 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 4: isn't going forward? 373 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: Chris Damski with us here on the drive, h Chris 374 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: kind of sticking with that conversation of of you know, 375 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: usage in the secondary, same church, different pew. We saw 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: a ton of Pat Fryarmuth Thursday night in Cincinnati. We 377 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: had been talking about his lack of usage ever since 378 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: the Steelers went over to Croke Park in Dublin. That 379 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: kind of did a one eighty where he was a 380 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: massive focal point of the offense Thursday night. Is that 381 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: just because that's what Pat Fryarmuth does, he kills the 382 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: Bengals killer or is that kind of another layer of 383 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: this element that maybe is finally unlocked, another layer of 384 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: this offense part of me that you think is finally 385 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: unlocked going forward? 386 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was interesting, and it was a 387 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: false start, so it didn't count and didn't even register 388 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: as a no play, but that they threw to him 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: in the very second snap, and I thought that was 390 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: sort of an acknowledgment of Hey, we love your Pat. 391 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: You know you're still part of all this. We know 392 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: the last couple of games for a variety of reasons. 393 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: And you know it wasn't intentional. We're not trying to 394 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: freeze your out or replace you or mike you off's 395 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: lead or anything. I think that was maybe part of that. 396 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: And yeah, this whole Bengals thing, I don't I mean 397 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: the person up now on the Bengals defense from two 398 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: or three years ago that there isn't much. I mean 399 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: there's some overlap, of course, because if it's the same 400 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: exact defense or anything, so whatever it is, whether it's 401 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: psychological at this point, I don't know, but I certainly 402 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: think I've come November sixteenth, in the rematch, will be 403 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: a lot of Pat pryor Ruth keep going to it 404 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: till it doesn't work, right in that sense, but yeah, 405 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: it's you can't ignore Darnold Washington and kind of the 406 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: strides he's made. Well, I mean, I guess strides and 407 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: wouldn't be the right way to put a blocking But 408 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: the more of the trust and of course the Jumbo 409 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: package and everything they've used and the deployment with that 410 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: and the running game again that it's not a complete 411 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: cause and effect or correlation, but it kind of coincides. 412 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: They started using it, not Washington a lot more in 413 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: the run game a lot better, so that there's there's 414 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: some correlation there. That's for sure that you're gonna keep 415 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: using him, and and John who of course is brought 416 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: in Holly and paid and was a pro bowler last year. 417 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: He's gonna be so yeah. And then Covin Austin coming back, 418 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: of course, and probably Spythons are definitely to a point, 419 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: Siphon snaps away from the tight end. So I would 420 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: imagine over the next was there eleven games left, the 421 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: eleven games left that they'll probably still be another couple 422 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: where he's way down there like he was, he's left 423 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: maybe not doesn't get a catch or something, and then 424 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: a couple other games where he's the you know, the 425 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 4: tight end ones. It's just kind of where they're at. 426 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: And it's similar to the secondary too, like we talked 427 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: about where it's you know, you, it's a luxury in 428 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 4: some sense if you think you have some sort of matchup. 429 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: It's a little different than tight end. I don't know 430 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: what what you know you could exploit per se maybe, 431 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: but against a team or whatever, it is that you 432 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: can use this guy more this week and that got 433 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: more of that week and put yourself in best position 434 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: for success. 435 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: So they've had so many big name additions, and I 436 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: know we're deeper in the season for this conversation Rogers 437 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: metcalf Ramsey, et cetera. I feel like the first round pick, 438 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: this doesn't get discussed as much as most years, and 439 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 3: he's played well. I have no reason to doubt him. 440 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: But do you get the impression from the organization that 441 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 3: they're very happy with Derek Harmon. 442 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy because there's been It is crazy these 443 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: last couple of years, just in terms of the guys 444 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: who have been. Of course, you have players you know, 445 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 4: Watt and future Hall of famers and probably Randy the 446 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: future Hall of Famer and all that, and so I 447 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: think that's part of it. Part of it is too 448 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: that just the nature of generally defensive tackles aren't going 449 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 4: to have the gaudy numbers or the you know, generally 450 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 4: a right, they're not they're not gonna have you know 451 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: that some of them might, I guess if were Hall 452 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: of Fame level, if you're gonna be Aaron Donald, I 453 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: suppose you're gonna expect them to get twenty sacks or whatever. 454 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna do that. But yeah, I don't 455 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: think there's again, you know, the well this last week, notwithstanding, 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, when Harmon came back into the 457 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: line up, the arrow pointed up on the run defense, 458 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: and I think that wasn't a coincidence either. So well, yeah, 459 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 4: I don't sense any sort of you know, I'm dissatisfaction 460 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 4: with him on any level or anything like that. So 461 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: I think he's been good at this last game. I 462 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: guess I don't have I definitely because I wrote about 463 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: him talk about bad timing, right, we And there's a 464 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: thing called newspaper. You're familiar with a newspaper like it's 465 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 4: a it's uh, but we still have to actually account 466 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: for that. So there's an early addition in these late games. 467 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: I have to write a story, so anyway, so I 468 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: post a story that gets in the fine readers of 469 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: you know, Turenum or Greensburg or whatever we're reading about, 470 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: how this is the Steelers run defense. It is pointing 471 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: up and Derek Carmer is a big reason why. 472 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: I probably, you know, in the night. 473 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: Before, thinking like I just watched Chase Brown run for 474 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: like one hundred and fifty yards. You know that happens 475 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 4: sometimes I guess right. 476 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: That it does. That it certainly does. And uh last 477 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: one I've got for you, buzz just uh man, a 478 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: massive early season game coming up here for the Steelers, 479 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: I think, especially in the backdrop of what happened Thursday night. Hey, 480 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: if you're five and one and you drop one to 481 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: the Packers in the fall to five and two, it's 482 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: another NFC loss. You're still undefeated in the AFC, not 483 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: the end of the world. If you follow the Packers 484 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: on Sunday night, now you're four and three and only 485 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: one game above five hundred, and you've got the Colts 486 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: coming to town the following week, it is very much 487 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: a kind of crossroads. Which way is the narrative gonna 488 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: go with the rest of this team season on Sunday night, 489 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: this this feels like it is just October, still October 490 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 2: it's not even Halloween yet, but this feels like a 491 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: pretty big kind of heat check, temperature check, gut check 492 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: type game for the Steelers at home Sunday night at 493 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: Extra Stadium. 494 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and you hate, you know, we'll look back 495 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: or whatever. It's the nature of the league and there's 496 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: you know, one possession games everywhere and all that, of course, 497 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: but there was so much, man, they're right there to 498 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: be five and one, and then you can kind of 499 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: afford a mulligan or a slip up or you know, 500 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 4: you know, a little mini's looting streak here or something, 501 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 4: and you and you, I mean, the vision would be, 502 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, all been wrapped up and you could really 503 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: go through this three game gauntlet here, three pretty good teams, 504 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: playoff caliber team games and think, okay, well whatever, you know, 505 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: if we just go one and two even we're still 506 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: sitting here at six and three and have a multiple 507 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: game leading our division, and all of a sudden, now 508 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 4: it's it's I mean, no, the question that the Bengals 509 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: could be, that could could be for first place here 510 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: in three or three and a half weeks when the 511 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: Bengals come to Pittsburgh and the Bengals got well, they 512 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: have the Jets and the Steers, and they have another 513 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: team in front of me that isn't that good. And 514 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: the Steelers got three games that even if they play well, right, 515 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: I got out and play a real good game against 516 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: you know, the Packers of the Colts and still lose, 517 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: and and all of a sudden, then then of a sudden, 518 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: this season starts to what we look so promising. But hey, 519 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 4: that's in the past. And yeah, and you know, I 520 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: heard Tim Ben say this filling in for Mark yesterday, 521 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: and it made a lot of sense to me, Like 522 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: this does feel like a game the Steelers win. If 523 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: you talk prime time against an NFC team after a loss, 524 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: there's sort of some It seems like anytime there gets 525 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: like the negative ball rolling in the middle of the 526 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 4: season like this, they usually bounce back with the win. 527 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: And so you know, they'll probably be one of their 528 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: underdog I think I don't even know, but I assume 529 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: they're an underdog. So there's sometimes that these are the games. 530 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: The Steelers do win. 531 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, you're right, it's not only just this game. 532 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: It's more than I look for look ahead of the 533 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: next two games after that, All of a sudden and 534 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: man like I said, you could play a good game 535 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: against the Colts and to extend the Chargers too and 536 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: still lose and all of a sudden, you're you know, 537 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: you're you're really trying to and all of a sudden, 538 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: you got a hole you got to start digging out of. 539 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: So it's getting to win after losing the losing the 540 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: Vision game like he did is big, especially for you know, 541 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: for just for being it was a week eight and 542 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: in the actual season. 543 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: Well said three and a half points. By the way, 544 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: the Packers. Packers open his favorites Sunday night football at 545 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: Afrosure Stadium. Yeah against uh Aaron Rodgers, his old team 546 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: coming to town. Three and a half is the opening number. 547 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: Chris and Damski has been our guest here on this Tuesday. 548 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: Of course, check out all his work and coverage in 549 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: the trip. Listen to him and Tom. That's a newspaper 550 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: that is That's one of those things. It's it's like 551 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: it's like a tree. 552 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: I have to talk my kids about it. It's like 553 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: a tree that they cut really really thick and stuff 554 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 4: called ink. I think it's like colored and it goes. 555 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: It's not. They're like it's all on your phone. No, 556 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: it's on your phone. No no, no, no, no wait, why 557 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 4: can't I put my finger on? 558 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: I moved the words down. 559 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't work that way. 560 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: That's like you guys will be yeah. Yeah, I've got 561 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: the from the two Super Bowls and the three Stanley 562 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Cups that the Penguins and the Steelers have one in 563 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: my lifetime. I've got all the front pages of the newspapers, 564 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, like in frames, down in my basement, and 565 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: I can't wait till one day my my daughters are 566 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: four and two that they come downstairs and they're like, Daddy, 567 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: what are those things with Ben Roethlisberger and Sidney Crosby 568 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: hanging on the wall? 569 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: What? 570 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: What are those things there? What is that a newspaper? 571 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: What the heck is that? 572 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: Uh? 573 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: They try to take their two fingers and try to 574 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: make it bigger like I want Ben. 575 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: Like hold down and click save image here? Where is that? Dad? 576 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: Uh? 577 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Chris and Damski always work in the trip him and 578 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: Tom at noon on the Steelers Bullets on the Steelers 579 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: Audio Network every single day. 580 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: Buzz, thanks for the time best Mars Lebo combination on SNR. 581 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: That's right, yeah, right, Wow, during the offseason, we're gonna 582 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: have to have some some type of charity royal rumble 583 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: here between the programs. 584 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: Team battle. 585 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: That's right. That's right, Buzz, Thanks for the time, man. 586 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you. 587 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: Soon, all right, care any time, guys. 588 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: There he goes Chris and Damski. That's right. We got 589 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: two of our two of our shows here have Libo 590 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: and mars co hosts. You gotta love it. Good stuff 591 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: from from Buzz as always, Matt. Let's get to a 592 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: break here, close down the first hour. Let's go around 593 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: the league a little bit, if that's cool with you, 594 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: talk about some of those the two Monday night games 595 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: last night, and some news of the day here around 596 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: the league as well too. We'll get into all of 597 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: that when we return. On the other side. It is 598 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, 599 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: your tunes. 600 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 601 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 602 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here as we close down the 603 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: first hour of the program on a Tuesday, and let's 604 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: go around the league a little bit, some league news, 605 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: and of course, Matt after a doubleheader last night on Monday, 606 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Night Football Week seven now officially in the books. We'll 607 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: do our Tuesday power rankings and Hour number two certainly, 608 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: but last night a battle of four teams that could 609 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: absolutely be in a playoff spot, three teams that I 610 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: think might be the three best along with Philly and 611 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: the nfcpetitive right now, it sure is. At the beginning 612 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: of the year, it looked like the NFC was going 613 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: to be wide open in the a f C was 614 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: going to be a gauntlet. That shoe is kind of 615 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: on the opposite foot where it looks like the NFC 616 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: is looking like the gauntlet in the a f C 617 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: is wide open. 618 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: And one of those teams, Houston I think is quickly 619 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: falling out of. 620 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned this yesterday. If the the Jags playing 621 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: the way that they have, you know, in losing a 622 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: couple of games here, still like there's still a wild 623 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: card window open for Houston. Absolutely, Baltimore is far behind. 624 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: Jacksonville's fallen a little bit this, you know, the Steelers 625 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: potentially what happens, I guess they're still in line to 626 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: win the division. But to me, yeah, Houston is not 627 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: in a great spot certainly considering what the cults, Yeah, 628 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: especially for I think what is a pretty good defense 629 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: uh in Houston, but they drop a eight point decision 630 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: last night in Seattle. The Seahawks, Man, I tell you 631 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: what they continue, Sam Darnold, Jackson, Smith and Jigba I am. 632 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: I am very impressed. You know, we talked a little 633 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: bit yesterday about teams like the Colts that have been 634 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: much better than everybody thought, teams like the Raiders that 635 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: have been much worse than everybody thought. Yeah, I think 636 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: Seattle certainly deserves credit in that regard to I don't 637 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: think many people saw this coming. What looks like one 638 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: of the best teams in the NFC. 639 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I truly think they are. Smith and Jigba. I 640 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: threw it out on Twitter last night. I mean, is 641 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: he a top five type receiver at this point this year? 642 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: Like right now, Like if we're doing the power rankings 643 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: States for wide receivers. 644 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: I mean, who's had a better year? Not maybe Puka 645 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: and that's about it, you know. 646 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: Doing this on the fly here right now, but maybe 647 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: for best of the West tomorrow, I'll do top ten 648 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: receivers in the NFL right now. 649 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: I like it, And unfortunately too of them got hurt 650 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: last night. Evans and Nico I know, and I was. 651 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: Gonna bring up that that Mike Evans, but that's a 652 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 2: big boss for Houston at a time when their offense 653 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: is still trying to figure it out. 654 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kirk's been out, They're counting on rookies. Their offense 655 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: is a tough watch. 656 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: They were one of those groups that early in the 657 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: season you thought maybe the Steelers can nab one of 658 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: those wide receivers, you know, at point at the end 659 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: of the year, But now they've lost two of them short. 660 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need all the offensive help they can get. Period. 661 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: Kind of feel bad for their defense. And I can't 662 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: tell Stroud's part of the I'm gonna stick with huston 663 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: this for a second. I can't tell Stroud's part of 664 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: the problem or solution, and I really lean towards solution. 665 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: But it's like step one of when I used to 666 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: really back up Trevor Lawrence, you know, like it's like, 667 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: I'm still a big fan of his work, He's in 668 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: a tough situation. I'm a believer, godly take on Steelers, 669 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, that type of thing. But it feels like 670 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: first step of that conversation of yeah, but there's a 671 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: lot of bad stuff happening two years in a row, 672 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: two different coordinators, two new lines, But I still blame 673 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: his surroundings more than I blame him. That game was 674 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: interesting to me though, too. Smith a JIGBB by the way, 675 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm glad we brought him up because I want to 676 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: bring up one more thing about him too. But like 677 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: I was just buzzing through the general stats of that game, 678 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: and Seattle had four turnovers compared to one for Houston 679 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: and still really controlled the action. Yeah, and both those 680 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: teams were miserable on third downs, miserable with penalties, and 681 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: you felt that watch in the game, and it still 682 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: didn't matter. Seattle still pretty much dominated despite all those 683 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: hidden yardage type things. 684 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, they did double digit penalties on each team. Yeah, 685 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: four turnovers for Seattle, like you mentioned, two interceptions, two 686 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: fumbles lost, but Seattle was still able to have over 687 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: thirty two minutes time of possession. Yeah, Hicht, which I 688 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: thought was big, but yeah, listen, when you're you know 689 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: you're Houston. They only had one rushing first down. They 690 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: were two of fifteen on third down third downs. Yeah, 691 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: I mean, but that's a tough way. That's a tough way. 692 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: To live like like, we like. 693 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: That how they've been for a couple of years because 694 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: they're always bad on early downs because they don't run 695 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: the ball well and they're always in third and long. 696 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: You know where I was going to say, they're leading 697 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: rusher last night was c J. Stroud on two carries 698 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: for twenty five yards. 699 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: It's not going to do it. 700 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: You're not going to win many games, particularly on the 701 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: road against a defense like that rus playing that way, 702 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: it yeah, no chance. And so Houston falls to two 703 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: and four and suddenly once again, you know, after two 704 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 2: wins and getting the you know, maybe the train back 705 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: on the tracks, it feels like they've gotten derailed now 706 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: and have to dig themselves out of a pretty big 707 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: hole once again. For Houston. 708 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: And we mentioned I mean, considering the state of the AFC, 709 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: maybe they can still sneak in the in the but 710 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: get this, here's what's on deck for here. They got 711 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 3: a really hard upcoming schedule. 712 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, home against the Niners, home against the Broncos. Yeah, okay, 713 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: if you can find a way to split those, but 714 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: then then you're still two games under five hundred. Then 715 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: you got the Jags coming to town. That will be 716 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: a big one for both teams. Titans, Okay, you go 717 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: to Nashville, you better take care of business there. Then 718 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 2: they got the bills. Then they go to the Colts, 719 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: then they go to the Chiefs. 720 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you better start winning games now. 721 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Right of their next seven games, they're gonna be favored, 722 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: maybe in one of those against against the Titans, maybe 723 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: at home against the Jags. There'll be a one half 724 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: close right now, but you know, I mean they they 725 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: might only be favored twice in their next seven games. 726 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: It's first place schedules, so you're to get the bills 727 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: that you you know, it's getting early late for the them. 728 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, they are in a tough spot once again 729 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 2: the early year. 730 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Quick Smith jam I want to throw out there too, 731 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: just kind of scouting is when I watch him, I mean, 732 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: I he's leveled up this year. And they even mentioned 733 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: it on the broadcast that those other Ohio state receivers 734 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: Revere or him, like he was the best of them all. 735 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 3: Like if you interview Harrison or a law of area, like, yes, 736 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 3: End's the guy, yeah, you know, like and I don't 737 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: think he's thought of in that light. And I also 738 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: think he's thought of as boy great slot, not really 739 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: an outside guy. He's awesome outside now and he attacks 740 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: all levels. He's converting on explosives and deep deep passes 741 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: at the highest rate in the league. And to really 742 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: nerd out when I watch him like the or think 743 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: about him, the first thing that comes to mind was 744 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: he had an elite three cone drill at the combine 745 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: and you would be like, okay, but he reminds me 746 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: of a b in a way where the way I 747 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: was describing it today was it's like he's driving a 748 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: fast car and can make a right hand turn without 749 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 3: ever touching the brake. 750 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, like just he's driving a fast car, but 751 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: he can do like the zero turn radius one mower thing. 752 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't even need to touch the break. Yeah right, 753 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it's really something in the body control. 754 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 3: And maybe he's not the fastest in a straight line, 755 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: but he's so twitchy, he's so smooth he is. 756 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: He is tough to cover, tough to guard right now. 757 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 2: For sure, Detroit takes care of business not to pat 758 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: ourselves on the bat back mat, but we both kind 759 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: of thought, hey, this could be a game tough spot 760 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay. Detroit does what Detroit does and barries 761 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: a team and it wasn't an embarrassing blowout loss. 762 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 3: Or anything but that they were pretty impressive. 763 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: But the Lions are pretty impressive. They win by fifteen. 764 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: They frustrate Tampa all day. Tampa loses Mike Evans in 765 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: that game, and the for was it early second half 766 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: or late first at whenever it was, I mean concussion 767 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: and shoulder. He is unfortunately going to miss a large 768 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 2: chunk of time, maybe potentially a long long time, which 769 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 2: will all but end his uh, his quest for a 770 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: what would have been an eleventh, I believe or twelfth 771 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: consecutive thousand yard season. He's tied with Jerry Rice for 772 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: the most of all time. Doesn't look like, unfortunately, he's 773 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: going to be able to surpass that. But man, Jamiir. 774 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: Gibbs had losses. 775 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: They've had so many injury and that makes it impressive 776 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: that they're five and two and still in a good 777 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 2: position at this point. 778 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: But maybe they can overcome this one too, but eventually 779 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 3: you just can't. 780 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: At some point. It's like you can only plug so 781 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: many leaks in the ship before you start to sink 782 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: a little bit. Detroit, though an ef fishing performance from 783 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: GoF another great performance from Jamiir Gibbs. I mean, they 784 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: have they had no common They had to take a 785 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: couple of lumps early in the season. They lost both 786 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: their coordinators, they lost some key pieces on that offensive line. 787 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: They've had some some significant injuries too. But they have 788 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: now turned that thing around and they are humming. 789 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm glad you mentioned the losses because I 790 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time on it. You know, boy 791 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: that he lost a lot on the interior line, he 792 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: lost both coordinators. The chances that you go backwards is 793 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: pretty high, but not no. I mean, I have doubts 794 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: about Campbell, but I just thought this was going to 795 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: be a very telling season for Campbell, Like were you 796 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: able to replace those things and keep the same aggressiveness 797 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: and the mindset that they play with. And it's one 798 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 3: thousand percent true, really good on both sides the ball. 799 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: Last night. I thought Saint Brown was great as ever 800 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: and Gibbs was amazing. I mean, Tyler mentioned that he's 801 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: hit twenty two miles an hour now in two different games. 802 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 3: He's done that. I mean, he's flying me moves like 803 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 3: differently than most people too. And I just thought the 804 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 3: defense made a lot of plays, like when Baker would 805 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: almost complete one and someone would just get a fingertip 806 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 3: on it, or I like everything was like almost close 807 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: to making a play. The Lions d really did a 808 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 3: nice job. 809 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: Yes, it did. Impressive performance from them. We're going to 810 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: do our power rankings an hour number two, like I said, 811 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: and I got a feeling they're going to be pretty 812 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: high on the list. They might even be at the 813 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: top of the mountain. 814 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: It's hight point could understand it. I mean, they lost 815 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 3: in Kansas City last week and not embarrassing fashion at all. 816 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have any problem if they were won. 817 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit. Finally, Matt, 818 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: last thing I wanted to run by you here. We 819 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: all saw the news last week that Zadarius Smith retired 820 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: from the Eagles kind of surprisingly. I think there was 821 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: some talk about could they be in the market for 822 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 2: one of these Trey Hendrickson times. Yeah, maybe even a 823 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: Max Well today this morning, Tuesday morning. Brandon Graham, of course, 824 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: had spent fifteen years with the Eagles and retired after 825 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: that Super Bowl win last year. Two time Super Bowl 826 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: champ Brandon Graham has ended his retirement and will return 827 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: for his sixteenth season on a one year deal with Philadelphia. 828 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: This kind of surprised me a little bit. He is, 829 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: he is extremely beloved and respected in that organization, as 830 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: he should be. He has made He made arguably the 831 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: biggest play in franchise history at the end of that 832 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in twenty eighteen when he stripsacked Tom Brady 833 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: at the end, you know, to put that thing on 834 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: I for the Eagles, for them to win their first 835 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in franchise history. He is. It's hard to 836 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: think of an example because we haven't done the like 837 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers have won a ton of championships, the Penguins 838 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: have won a ton of championships. For him to be 839 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: the guy that had the big moment to finally get 840 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 2: Philly over the hump, for them to finally win that 841 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Like, he's like beloved there, yeah, cult status. 842 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: He might have a statue one day. He'll be in 843 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame, all that stuff 844 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 2: one day. 845 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Matt. 846 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: I am though a little surprised because the Eagles are 847 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: an aggressive franchise that yea, you know they the the 848 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: woer sick them thing like they always sick them. They are, 849 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: They are always willing to be aggressive, to be bold, 850 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: and I just thought that they would swing a little 851 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: bit more for the fence. This This feels like a 852 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: safe single into left field where I thought they might 853 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: swing for a home run with you know, with a 854 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: Trey hendricks center, a Max Crosby type and so there's 855 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: that element of it. And then also kind of just 856 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: Hendrickson Crosby still out there. Will anybody else bite on 857 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: those guys potentially being available? 858 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick on Hendrickson. I would bet, just knowing 859 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 3: the Bengals organization, that beating the Steelers could be enough 860 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: to say not open for business right now. You know, 861 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: maybe they will be if one more loss or two 862 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 3: more losses or whatever. But I would think he's gone 863 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: hard to hard to pry away. Plus they're the hardest 864 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: team in the league to deal with a lot of rumors, 865 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: talk whatever. That Crosby's starting to heat up a little bit, 866 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: Dallas Niners Detroit would make a lot of sense. You 867 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: can you imagine that defense was throw Max Crossby on there. 868 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: I'd probably give you basically anything you wanted at that point. 869 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 3: If you're them now, I guess signing Graham. Doesn't mean 870 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 3: they're done, but it implies. 871 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: It, at least that position. 872 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: That position, yeah, I mean it implies it though. I mean, 873 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 3: because there's only so many roster spots. You laid it 874 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 3: out well. I wanted to let people know about that too, Like, 875 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 3: I don't think Graham is going to the NFL Hall 876 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 3: of Fame, but he is a Eagles Hall of Famer, 877 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 3: Ring of Honor guy to no end, you know, cornerstone 878 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: of the organization. And you you lived in Philly. I mean, 879 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure he is loved and you see Graham. 880 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 2: Jersey almost like that, like a debo type player. I 881 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 2: know he never won Defensive Player of the Year, but 882 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: there's right, right, he was a big personality. Everybody loved him. 883 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: He's probably not going to the NFL Hall of Fame, 884 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: but he's in the NFL Hall of really good right, 885 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: right right, And he's a multiple time super Bowl champion. 886 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 3: And when they signed him, I thought, I didn't even 887 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: think of the angle of you know, well, maybe they're done, 888 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 3: maybe they're done now from Hendrickson Crosby. I just thought, 889 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 3: I think they just want him in the locker room. 890 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 2: Also, also might be a very fair point. 891 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 3: You know, like if Cam Hayward retires and it's week 892 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: seven of that year and he's like, hey, can I 893 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: come play twenty snaps a game? Like yeah, and you 894 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: can have your locker back and you can be in 895 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 3: charge of the Yeah yeah, yeah, right right, and Graham 896 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: could have his retired one day. 897 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, maybe absolutely, but that was 898 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: an interesting one for me. You're right, that's an important 899 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: angle of this too. He's the type of guy he 900 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: walks in the locker room. Everybody respects him. Everybody sits 901 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: up straight. 902 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 3: And AJ Brown shuts up a little bit, a little bit. 903 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the defensive guys take a few extra notes 904 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: in the meetings when he's sitting next to him. But certainly, 905 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: if there's a trickle down effect for some of the 906 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: pass rushers that could be on the market, that'll be 907 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on with this. 908 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 3: There's a position that it might be somewhat plentiful, you know, 909 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: Like I bet you could get Phillips are Chubbed from Miami. 910 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I bet there's five or six edge rusher 911 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 3: names out there that aren't crazy to ask for right now, 912 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 3: you know, led by Crosby. 913 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: I think that market will start heating up here, certainly 914 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. Hour in the books, another hour ago, 915 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: we have got to do a little fantasy football focus, 916 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: and hour number two we've got to get to our 917 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: power rankings. And Matt had a really fun idea for 918 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: a quarterback exercise to kind of preface are around campus 919 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 2: that we're going to do tomorrow. Yes, so all of 920 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: that and more in our number two A lot coming 921 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: at you, West Wheeler, Matt Williamson. It's the Drive on 922 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,