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Speaker 1: the Volume, Happy Thursday, everybody. Coverage of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: these shows. Well. Game one of the NBA Finals goes

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Nuggets, who are still undefeated at home.

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Speaker 1: I thought that that was an especially concerning game for

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Speaker 1: lot of things really well in that game. They won

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Speaker 1: a lot of battles against Denver that Denver has been

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Speaker 1: winning against everybody else in this postseason run, and they

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Speaker 1: still lost by double figure. So we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 1: was watching that intro video that they always play right

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Speaker 1: before tip off. It's not as long as it used

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Speaker 1: to be. Some of you older fans will remember. It

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Speaker 1: used to be a much more produced video that had

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Speaker 1: a lot of history in it. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: of history in this particular series, Like Jimmy's been there before.

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of the twenty twenty one NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: where it feels more like the beginning of history. You know,

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Speaker 1: But what happens is you go back and it's like

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Speaker 1: like in the twenty twelve finals, you know they win

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Speaker 1: gonna make every single time, because again, that's what causes

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Speaker 1: a bad shooting night. It's all of those other factors

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Speaker 1: This is a Miami team that has been lights out

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