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So Thursdays 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: we dropped video on YouTube fo GFFO TV. Right Mondays 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: at midnight when you get up Monday, podcasts to be out. 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: We may start doing Monday and Thursday. Not sure yet, 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: but Monday, when you get up, podcasts to be out. 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Anyway you get podcasts, you're just typing this up there 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: podcast that's for audio. UM. I also want to thank 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: everybody that sent prayers my way, UM that sent um, 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: thoughtful for energy, thoughtful feelings, UM, people sent gifts people. 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I just want to thank the people 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: that's really involved and really really really see the the 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: future of it's up that podcasting loan and humbly man. 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm wanted to thank y'all for allowing me to be 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: UM in your home, in your phone, in your tablets, 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: in your ill whether I'm met and um hopefully be 60 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: able to provide a decent life for my family with communication, um, UM, 61 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: with with with my coaching. Right. So I want to 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: thank you'ull from that being being in the hospital man 63 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: for so many days. For somebody like me, it's a 64 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. You know. I've been to jail before, 65 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: so you know, jail is a different thing. The hospital 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: is a thing where you're sitting there and they got 67 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: you hooked up, and they feeding your medication, and you 68 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: may be in pain and certain things. So it's one 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: of the lowest places that you can place a human being. 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I want you to know. I'm fresh out too, so 71 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: I need you to you know, maybe right right now 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: it won't make sense, But when I look back at this, 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: maybe five years, ten years with the success of what 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: it is I bring to the game, right maybe not 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: even that long, I don't know. But whenever I get 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to look back at this and I can say, yo, 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: that was right after you was in that hospital five days, 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: came home, try to jump right back into it. For damn, 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: they're free, you understand me. It's a level of commitment 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: attached to that that you know, I'm gonna be able 81 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: to appreciate in the years to come. Right now, I'm 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: just in the fight. But being in that hospital helpless, 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: no helpless, seeing the days go by seeing the nights 84 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: go by. Then I was alone from you know, because 85 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: number one that it's strict rules in regards to visitation, 86 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, in regards to COVID. We're in the middle 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: of a national pandemic. But I found myself, believe it 88 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: or not, not even when people came to see me, 89 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: right they were coming, they were come in my my 90 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: hospital room. I'll be just sitting there, just looking at 91 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: the air, no TV, no phone, no nothing known, no 92 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: light on, because in that moment, it felt like it 93 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: felt like all this was flashing before me. You know, 94 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: it felt like damn slam you to just shut you down. 95 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: And for some reason, I feel people praying on my downfall. 96 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can feel it. And I sat 97 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: there and I just thought to myself, when you get 98 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: out this hospital, are you gonna stop podcasting? What you're 99 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: gonna do? You're gonna stop doing this, doing that? What 100 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it? Long story short, it just placed 101 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: me in a in a deep state, man, very deep state. 102 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: But you know we won't stop. You know what I'm saying, 103 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: It's important y'all support this thing because you know, life 104 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: is short. We don't know what we don't know what's 105 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: going on. You know what I'm saying, And what we'll 106 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: hate to happen is is that something happens and then 107 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: all of this ship blows up and they say, damn, 108 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: that dude was the truth. Man, you know what I'm saying, 109 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: And that was my biggest feel that that bed all right, 110 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it because I Wasn't that really be 111 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: my biggest feel, Dog, One of my biggest feels is 112 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: something happening to me, right, and then all of a sudden, 113 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: because of that, they's a lot more people go to 114 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: discovering who is this guy? And then they and then 115 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 1: they and then they shed a light on it that 116 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: that I would hope that I can because I got 117 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do, Dog, I got a 118 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of work to do for I, even I coach you, 119 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I race brother, I got a lot of work to do. 120 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: But I got to clean up out this first. But 121 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I got a lot of work to do. You know 122 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And if you listen to me and 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: follow me, you hear me speak from a position of power, 124 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: from a position to understanding, right, So it ain't nowhere 125 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: in the hell that it wouldn't cross my mind, Like, YO, 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: what if something happened bro then all of a sudden, 127 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, people would be like go looking that shit 128 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: and like, yo, that dude's truth man. He would he 129 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: would say this, they dou had a point like this 130 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: and that said that that that they crosses your mind. 131 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: But you know, immortality crosses everyone's mind if you or 132 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: if you have something worth living for attached to your brain, right, 133 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: some people don't have none worth living for us, so 134 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: they don't never picture that, you know what I'm saying now. UM, 135 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: I don't want to start the part there, of course, 136 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll start with UM, Deontay Wilder the fight. 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: This happened last night. I happened to get out of 138 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: the hospital and time enough to see the fight. UM, 139 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: I watched the fight. I number one want to say, 140 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: shout out to Deontay Wilder. Um, he's a he's a 141 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: he's a guy that Um I've mentioned in my raps. 142 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: Uh knockout artists. Yeah, knockout artists, you understand me. Um, 143 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: for those of you that mayn't be unaware, He's had 144 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: three fights now with Tyson Fury. One was a draw 145 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: and the other two Tyson Fury left to fight victorious. Um, 146 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: this particular fight right here, I felt a lot, you know. 147 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: You know, I was on there talking to a few 148 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: of my homeboards about it, you know, and just looking 149 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: at what it is that fury brings to the match, 150 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: right and now, I was talking about weight to my people, 151 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I say, you know, strength and power was two different things. Right, 152 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Some people got strength, but they don't got any power. 153 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: They don't got no force behind them, right and um, 154 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: because I think one of them. I think power is 155 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: just organized force or something. It's it's something one of 156 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: those definitions live inside of the other word. So what 157 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, um, you would see these guys because 158 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Deontay Wire to come out in the fight, he looked 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: like an action figure. I mean, he couldn't have more muscles. 160 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: Dude got muscles there. Well, muscle can come to you, 161 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: understand me. But when you're dealing with somebody that got 162 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: thereter for the pounds on, you be careful with how 163 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: you see. You look good in the mirror, but I'm 164 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you ain't really you feeling me so 165 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: and not Wilder. Just in general, some people don't understand 166 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: that you can you can look like you muscle. You 167 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: can bench press one fifty. The problem is I'm not 168 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: one fifty. Yeah, I could bench press one seventy five. 169 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: The problem is I'm not one seventy five and I'm 170 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: coming with some some know how some you dig. So 171 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: what happens is you see, man, everybody looked good fighting 172 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: the hour. Everybody looked good lifting the weight because that 173 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: shit ain't punching back, it ain't doing nothing back. But 174 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: when somebody's in front of you and actively trying to 175 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: get at you, you can't wound up. If I can 176 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: see you every time wounding up, you got a problem. 177 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: If you come at me like that, you would never 178 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: hit me. I told a story around here about to 179 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: dude I fought in Walmart would never hit me one 180 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: time because he don't know how to fight and he 181 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: had forty feet your pounds on me. But you don't. 182 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: You you keep coming with it. I'm never letting you 183 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: hit me with that slime. You're not You're not hitting 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: me with that, you understand. But Deontay Wilder after the 185 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: second fight, just to kind of put some framework down 186 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: um as to what's going on. After the second fight, 187 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder said that I think he had to wait. Uh. 188 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: He said, Tyson Fury had a weight in his glove. 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: He said, Tyson Fury, Uh, I think the ref was 190 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: was in on it um and he fired his uh 191 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: due his trainer. Um, I didn't necessarily like you know, 192 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: so many different excuses. But I but but I gave 193 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: him lead way because I said to myself, he dealing 194 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: with that's a rough thing to deal with. My undefeated 195 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: record was on the line and some nigga through the tie. Lead. 196 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: He costs me, man, you know I'm more money he 197 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: costs me. We tell about with the egg on the 198 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: other side of my name, Man, we tell about forty 199 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: four an egg, forty three an egg. Ain't nothing no 200 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: notice like that. That right there, say, I got to 201 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: have a certain amount of money. You know why, because 202 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Floyd maybe was already put the blueprint down. This is 203 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: how you get the five six hundred. You got to 204 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: keep an egg on the other side. And so he 205 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: was in that position and for that time to be 206 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: through by somebody. I think he really believed that, like 207 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: yo date and I don't know whether or not, you know, 208 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I know that the boxing commissioners came out to denounce 209 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: every accusation that's been made, but I don't know whether 210 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: or not they're true or not. So um he felt 211 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: a certain way, and I think that in his mind 212 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: though I know he felt. He see it's a different 213 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: fight when you lose it. Not a different fight, it's 214 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: a different feeling when you when you lose it. You 215 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: don't have the same bounce when you lose. I was 216 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: telling one of my homeboys, I said, you know what, 217 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Deontay Water gonna come into this fight on something different. 218 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: But four or five rounds in, when you get a 219 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: little tired, you go back to old faith. It done 220 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: one forty three times. Ain't no way I can erase 221 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: it that quick. But this is the genius of Floor Maywether, Right. 222 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: When you see a tyson fury out there in the landscape, 223 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: you make him go through certain people that knock knock 224 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: chips out from them, go through him to see me, 225 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Go through him to see me, go through him to 226 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: see me. Now see me, and hopefully they don't knocked 227 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: dust from me so I can get you in here 228 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and gone. You know what I'm saying. But the only 229 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: thing I said is, you know, coming into it that 230 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I thought deta Deontay Water will win because I thought 231 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury he tried not to fight the boy. He 232 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: really went to court trying not to fight him, like went, 233 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: try to go against the grain and not fight the guy. 234 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So when you do something 235 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: like that to me, it either says that it says something. 236 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speculate as to what it says, but 237 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: it says something moving along. So now they they he 238 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: takes him to court, he suits, and they get the 239 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Remaster just says no, the contract reads that he gets 240 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the rematch if he elects, and of course he elects 241 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: because he lost his undefeated record to you, he wants 242 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: to fight again. They set up another fight. Fury catches COVID. 243 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Fury body style says to everybody watching that he can't 244 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: win this fight against this chiseled, cut up you know, 245 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: specimen of an action figure. But but you know, they 246 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: get in there. So the third fight, Deante Wilder supposed 247 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: to come out first. What happens is they're taking a 248 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: long time. Then when they take the long time, I 249 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: tell my homeboy these things he got to win this fight. 250 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: If he's doing these things, you take a long time, 251 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: because they're gonna mean me and make you look bad. 252 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: So just come on out. You know. He took a 253 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: very long time. He said he'll come when he read it, 254 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: because you know, he used to be in the A side, 255 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: but you're not the A side. See this is why 256 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: I say sometimes, man, you know, um with us, we 257 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: gotta start understanding. Man, reality is key. How we feel 258 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: is important, but reality is key. Reality is key, you know. 259 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: And and a lot of times when black boys are 260 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: raised by their mothers, they they're taught to where their 261 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: feelings um tend to mean more than the actual circumstances 262 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and the reality of the situation. Right, So if you 263 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: feel bad, you get you get you get a pass 264 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: to do this, you know, or if you feel you 265 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: know how you think they feel type thing. It's like, yo, 266 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation is you're the B side. 267 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: And when you accept that and you can come from 268 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: that position, you maybe can have a different approach to it. 269 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Because when you over here thanking you the ship or 270 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: not the ship. Let's say it's just like me. Say 271 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: I sit, say say I don't see, say I get 272 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: up tomorrow morning. I think I'm the strongest man in 273 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: the world. That's what I feel. I ain't talking about 274 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: I ain't did no testing or there ain't no quantitative 275 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: evidence to say this. It's just I feel this right. 276 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the strongest dude in the world. 277 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: When I head to the gym and put them all 278 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: in plates on the bench press, they ain't sit down 279 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: if if if I try to lift that weight, I'm 280 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,239 Speaker 1: gonna get injured. And that's the reality of the situation, 281 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: no matter how I feel about it. So sometimes we 282 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: get too caught up in our feelings because our mothers 283 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: tending to give us lead way. Let us pout, let 284 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: us go upstairs and slam the do you know, let 285 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: us do certain things that allow us to say why 286 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: I felt bad? You know what I'm saying. And those 287 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: kind of things will cost you gravely. Nonetheless, they get 288 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: into this fight. Um oh, he takes it. He takes 289 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: a long time. He comes down to the ring, he 290 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: does his one two, he gets in there. I look 291 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: at him, my homeboarding him and saying, look nervous, I'm saying, 292 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: and he looked like he ready to kill Tyson Fury 293 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: come on out singing and doing this little one too. 294 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: He's he looks a little unbothered, you know. Um, then 295 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: they get the fighting when they first come out. I say, 296 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Wilder coming out totally different. Now he's exerting a lot 297 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: of energy. Take a lot to old, big old six 298 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: nine dude to get it. Seems simple, big old six 299 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: eight six seven dude to get on and hit you 300 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: with one of them jabs to the mid section. Keep 301 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: doing that with that type force he was doing in 302 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: that first round and bam bam, boom, bam bam. You know, 303 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: he was doing it. He had a totally different style. 304 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: But as the fight went on, we saw that he 305 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: went back to that I got to hit you with 306 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: the right, I got to hit you with the right 307 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: and nothing, you know. Fast forward through the fight, Tyson 308 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Fury end up winning. Wilder knocks him down a few times, 309 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: Tyson knocks him down, then ends up ultimately knocking him out. 310 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: I want to focus more so on the last part 311 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: of what took place, getting away from the greatness of 312 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: the fight and the greatness of those two individuals. At 313 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: the end of the fight, I watched Wilder seemed to 314 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: be a bit hurt, but not gonna give up. He 315 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: was gonna get up again. And for that We got 316 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him, and you know, I'm 317 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: riding with him. I like his energy, you know, but 318 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: I was very disappointed and not I was very disappointed 319 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: in him. And I'll tell you why. At the end 320 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: of the fight, he's sitting now, Tyson Fury comes over 321 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: there to try to show him love. He telling him, 322 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to ain't no love respect It can 323 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: be like that for him. I still think some kind 324 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: of way, he should have spoke to his fans. He 325 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: should have spoke to his people, his love ones. He 326 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: should have spoke to the people that came and traveled 327 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: and was riding with him and bit with him and 328 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: hold him down. See, because again when we get caught 329 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: in the emotions, and I know what it's like to 330 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: face defeat like dang bro we tell about undefeated, and 331 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: I thought I had him and he had him. He 332 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: was doing good. Now later on in the rounds he 333 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: was you know, things got a little slippery. But for 334 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the fight he was doing good and 335 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: he could always at any point knock him out. But 336 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I think at the end it just seemed like the 337 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: punches he had nothing known him. Yeah, yeah, he was 338 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: sending playing burgers through that and what didn't have no 339 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: must cheese, nothing known it. He was just sending burgers 340 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and they wasn't. I remember at the end of one 341 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: around Tyson eight a few and bam, boom boom. Just 342 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: ate it um and so it was. It was a 343 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: it was a crazy situation. Now when I looked at 344 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: the situation of the way he handled the end of 345 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: the fights where it's why I found opportunity because I 346 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: said to myself, he don't even know the money that 347 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: he possibly messed up right down, you look at the 348 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: situation right Fear is not gonna fight him again. Fear, 349 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: that's that's off the table. The fans that came out, 350 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna some of the fans are gonna misinterpret whatever 351 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: he said. What he should have said, even if he 352 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna talk, should have send his train out there 353 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: to say, listen, Deontay Widder wants to be private right now. 354 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: He wants to send love and support to all his fans. 355 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Braun you know, bomb squad 356 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. Whatever. He loves y'all, and he will he 357 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: will communicate with y'all soon. Um. Great fight, great to 358 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: not you know, but you should have spoke to your people. 359 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: We was there, brother, you know what I'm saying. And 360 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: I I always tell y'all knowing how to take a 361 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: loss mean more than know how to take a win, 362 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: because one thing for show too things for certain you're 363 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: gonna take way more losses than you're gonna take wins. 364 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: And so I'm always critical of of of of of 365 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: how you communicate the people and how they take wins 366 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: and losses, because the loss gonna always tell me more 367 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: about you. Everybody can win with me. It don't cost 368 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: you nothing. The loss is what cost you. It costs 369 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: you no longer comfortable. You're no longer confident, you're no 370 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: longer khaki, you will no longer want to communicate, You 371 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: no longer want to do nothing. When the loss kick in, 372 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: it's easy to win. What a dude. That's why when 373 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I was in the hospital, them is losses. When somebody's 374 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: sitting on a on a hospital bed and can't move, 375 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: that's a loss for them. They still living, So it's 376 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: a win somewhere, it's a silver lining. But in the 377 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: grand scheme, they've been stopped, they've been holded in the 378 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: middle of progress. You understand me. So when a loss 379 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: come in, I always and I tell my children are right. 380 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: Knowing how to lose it's so important. Knowing how to 381 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: lose is so important because it builds character. It tells 382 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: you you're able to be able to say, listen, I'm 383 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: not somebody to think I'm a win and everything I do, 384 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm not somebody that's stupid enough to believe I'm the 385 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: best in the world. You hear me say all the time. 386 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: See this, don't get me confused, because I see a 387 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of people think they know me, but they don't 388 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: know me. They don't know how I'm a scientist with 389 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: this man. I'm so I communicate my words so carefully. 390 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm not misquoting nothing I'm saying. When I tell you 391 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm cold at something or the biggest one and this 392 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: and that, that ain't saying I'm the best. I don't 393 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: say I'm the best. I know I ain't the best. 394 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean bluetooth mold constantly. I got to learn. I 395 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: got to get some out of something. I gotta get 396 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: something out of something. We're going to wash come out 397 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: of the wrists. I gotta get something out of something. 398 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. Dudes, that's dumb enough to 399 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: believe that. But nonetheless a Wilder lost the fight. Shout out, 400 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder. I think you should have handled that a 401 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: little different. You know, we ran with you though, because 402 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: we don't got no black heavy weights. We ain't got 403 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: nobody to represent my color. So I can't come in 404 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: due too much, um. But it's a bigger conversation that 405 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I want to have about a lot of times when 406 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: men are being raised by the opposite six, how they 407 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of give you tools that that's unnecessary on your journey, right, 408 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: or they give you an understanding of the tools you 409 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: have and they have you using them in a way 410 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: that they use them. Right. Your your mother will use 411 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: her tools in a way that a woman needs to 412 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: use her tools. And that's all she can teach you, 413 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: because that's all she knows, you know what I'm saying. 414 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: But when you get a male alpha energy that tells you, yo, 415 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: you're going wrong with that. You're going wrong with that 416 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: respectfully in regards to it's too much emotion in that 417 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna crash out for me. And we can't do that. 418 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: We gotta let the babies in them and the and 419 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: the women do that. The men got to be upright 420 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: and independent at all time. You know what I'm saying, 421 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: This is what I need to say to y'all. I 422 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: know some of y'all thing. You know, things look, things 423 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: look very professional as it's up there. Podcast things look, 424 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, just like the leading podcast in the game. 425 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, whether that be Wallow, whether that be Breakfast Club, 426 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, big facts podcasts, whether that be Million Dollars 427 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: Worth a Game or Brilliant Idiots or eighty five South, 428 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: whatever show that may be. When you look at this 429 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: up that podcast, you get that same field right, and 430 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: you also, you know, I want to see how I 431 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: can put this, But you gotta be careful with that 432 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: because sometimes y'all think y'all supporting me, right, and y'all 433 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: think y'all can support me in the same way y'all 434 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: support them. And the reason y'all think that it's because 435 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: the podcast customer, right, the person that listens to a podcast, 436 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: they haven't been schooled or there's no information out there 437 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: and they haven't been introduced in the way that they 438 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: should have been. It's just pick up your podcast app 439 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: and play the podcast. Somebody on the back end and 440 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: figure out how to get the money. Oftentimes that is 441 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: the case. But with with the withholding of information in 442 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: our culture, right, we end up in a position and 443 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: where now I have to come out and be more 444 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: adamant and more vocal about what needs to happen for 445 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: the support to translate in the way that the support 446 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: that you may give a Joe Budden or one of 447 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: these other podcasts where you can just click and they 448 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: figured it out on the back end. Right. Um, Also, 449 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I gotta be more more more vocal about what things drop. 450 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: It surprised me how many dms I got man with 451 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: people when I was in the hospital about people not 452 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: understanding when things come out and where it's sad and 453 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: like yo, it's it's tears to this. Right, I'm an 454 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: independent podcast. I'm thirty forty grand in only quit men 455 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: and shit like that, right, just to put it in 456 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: perspective for people that don't this ain't a sob story. 457 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: This is a hustle, This is a marathon, right, This 458 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: ain't nigga. I ain't crying about nothing because I know 459 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Oh for I'm a big boy, you 460 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: understand me. Just just make sure you put that in 461 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: your cup too, you understand. But when with that being said, right, um, 462 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to the people that that 463 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: make that that that may feel as though I'm trying 464 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: to force them to support me. We're not talking about y'all. 465 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the people that be in my DM 466 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: and sending me cash, chefs or whatever those little things 467 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: where they really their supporters of man. But I guess 468 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: it's no clear avenue on how to support me outside 469 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: of listening to the podcast. And again, it's my job 470 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: to lay the business model down. You know, all the 471 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: game I kick and then then my business model do 472 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: ain't even clear on what I got going on. So 473 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: I got to clean that up, right, And so that's 474 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: what I'm starting to do as of right now. But um, again, 475 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: looking at all these podcasts looking the same, right, and 476 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: things looking folk, and the lightning right, and the mic 477 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: sounding good, and you know, the barrier of entry to 478 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: get in podcasting has came down tremendously, you know. Um, 479 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: But we also know salt look like sugar. We also 480 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: know salt looked like sugar, So we gotta be particular 481 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: with our approach to these things. Man, You know what 482 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying so when you listen to a willow of 483 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: one of them, again, somebody's on the other side taking 484 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: numbers and doing what they're doing with numbers. It's a 485 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: machine happening. When you look at somebody like me that's 486 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: competing with those level podcasts and got those level podcasts 487 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: running off with segments and ideas and things like that, 488 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: and not wallowing them because they they got a super 489 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: unique thing. But in the culture, you know and we 490 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: think they like, and that's what this is fun. But 491 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: where it becomes complicated is when you're starting a lot 492 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: of these conversations, but you're not getting the credit because 493 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: we know what credit. I don't want your money because 494 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: I can hustle with the credit. I understand what credit means, 495 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: and I don't mean credit cards. I mean the notoriety 496 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: of what it is that I gave to the game. 497 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: You understand, there's a reason why they got awards shows. 498 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: It's a reason why when you get on Apple they're 499 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: telling you what the number one song gives. Be a 500 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: boy put something out every week. There's a reason when 501 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: you get on Netflix they tell you what's streaming number 502 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: one right now? Right? These things mean things you can 503 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: hustle with the credit, so I need my credit to 504 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: be clear and with y'all that want to support me, 505 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: you have to number one. I'm sure if you're listening 506 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: on Anchor or Spotify, they should have a button there 507 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: where you can subscribe and send a subscription every month. 508 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: That's a there's a thing that WI you should be 509 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: able to do that somewhere on the page. I got 510 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: a couple of people doing it on Anchor where they 511 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: send money. Shout out to them. I gotta put a 512 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: couple of people that haven't done it on Spotify. I 513 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: don't know Spotify got rid of it because I don't 514 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: I haven't paid attention to it. But um also, you 515 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: need to subscribe to the patreon. There's tears on the Patreon. 516 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Go subscribe to one of the tiers. That's where all 517 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: the unreleased videos are gonna land. That The Charleston White, 518 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: the Floor Mayweather, the Doctor, Umar Johnson, the Band played 519 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: the City Paper, the Larry Returner who did life and 520 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: got out because of Obama. The Raymond Clayton did twenty 521 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: eight years and got out when Obama got in m 522 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: the d Strap that used to be saying with Cage 523 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: via record street, the street doing this thing, the t 524 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: the joy, Kimbro the all that's gonna be landed over there, 525 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: you know. And that's a way for me to be 526 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: able to monetize that because YouTube is not a place, 527 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: contrary to popular belief, where you can control the revenue. 528 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see now when you talk about certain things, 529 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: it puts your channel in a situation and now everything's 530 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: being reviewed. When they put yellow on it, it decreases 531 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: the money. I think about forty or fifty percent, which 532 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: is a big deal. So to support me, that's just 533 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: a few ways you can do. So, Like again, I 534 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: gotta be cleaning that with y'all. And if you do support, 535 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, we'll appreciate you. But just listening to the 536 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: podcast is a great thing. That's all you're gonna do. 537 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Didn't do that, Wayne, Wayne saying, you know, but that's cool. 538 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: But I just for those of you that want to 539 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: support the movement, because we need support in the movement. 540 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I was watching wallow get down. I said, listen, that's 541 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: so important. That's so important, like wallow Head as he 542 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: was coming up, and I'm gonna steal some of the 543 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: game instead and see this, see how I'm giving the 544 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: credit out. You see how I didn't just say I 545 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: come up with an idea. I had to clear blue sky. 546 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. That's kind of what they're doing 547 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: out there, you know. But see, for me, I'm such 548 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: a creative I understand what they feel like, yo, especially 549 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: being on this side for a long time and writing 550 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: and helping certain people elevating this understanding that they got 551 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: my sauce all on their burger, you know what I'm saying. 552 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: And the people really just like the burger because of 553 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: the sauce. Every everybody got burgers, you understand me. It's 554 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: the yeah se wha, I'm fine with that kind of shit. 555 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: That one I'm trying to say. Why they pay me, 556 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: That's why. That's why we got to get this too 557 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: care of. So wherever you go, wherever you support, make 558 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: sure you go support and do that in a way. 559 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: Well I can understand the support. Another way you can 560 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: support us to buy merch. Got a t Spring account, 561 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: go on that by we got anything. You can buy anything, 562 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: go on in base, mess up that podcasts merch simple 563 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: as the nose on your face. You know what I'm saying. 564 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: It ain't none that you know it just it's very simple. 565 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: But do that, take care of bidding, and you should 566 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: be we should feel your support. I want to talk 567 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: about this too, because you know I had went right 568 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: went went right into the hospital right after I heard 569 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: or saw this, and it was a very peculiar situation 570 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: for me. You know, UM, for all of my listenership 571 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: and the people that listen to me, again, I reiterate 572 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: them from cage your Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee, Big FO, GFO 573 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Nashville Vibrations right Tennessee. We're doing pretty good in music. 574 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: Memphisis got a stronghold, UM on it and UM and 575 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: Shar's podcasting. You know, Um, you're dealing with it when 576 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: you when you're looking at me, you're dealing with it. 577 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: You know. So we we we we we feel good 578 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: about where we at. But we got a lot of 579 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: work to do. You know, we got a lot more 580 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: work to put in. You know, it's so it's so 581 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: far I gotta go. It's so much more. I gotta 582 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: try to help in teaching, become a trampoline of source 583 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: of information and an opportunity for this whole area just 584 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: to understand the prosperity is way more profitable. Man, the violence. 585 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We gotta we gotta twitch 586 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: the mindsets in regards to that. But nonetheless, UM, I 587 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: saw well news Channel five, a guy named Phil Collins 588 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: that been around for a while. UM. He he did 589 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: a he did a a special on gideons on UM 590 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: and and him being no, UM shout out him being no. See, 591 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: these these guys have been on my podcast, and I 592 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: know these guys to be generals, and I know these 593 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: guys to UM to be in a situation to try 594 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: to help the community out right. So lt has been 595 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: on my podcast, UM, and and Mbino has been on 596 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: my podcast. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna run this clip 597 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: of what news Channel five UM did on this, and 598 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: then we're gonna come back with some commentary and and 599 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: and an approach and just try to figure out man, Um, 600 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: you know, what what do we do, man, Like, what 601 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: do we do in regards to UM when there's an issue? 602 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Because that one thing is clearly they can't reach in 603 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: the ghetto and speak, That's clear. At some point we 604 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: gotta understand, UM, we only can talk to us. And 605 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when when we communicate to when we 606 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: communicate that, they tend to try to use us against us. 607 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: Right see passing future is different then and now those 608 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: things are different, you know what I'm saying. So it's 609 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: important I always remember that, man, and we'll see what 610 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: they gotta say. Let's let's let's see because they got 611 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: they got some shit, they got some stuff going on. Listen, 612 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: YEA to save a life or a deal with the devil? Tonight, 613 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: that's the question about a Nashville non violence groups teaming 614 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: up with a local gang figure, and an investigation you 615 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: will only see here. Chief investigative reporter Phil Williams discovered 616 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: that taxpayer funded group Gideon's Army may have ignored major 617 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: warning signs that would ultimately lead to more violence. Gideon's 618 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Army says it's all about making communities safer. But our 619 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: questions about the mistakes made in their alliance with a 620 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: prominent gang figure begin with questions about the murder of 621 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: the little girl. The nine one one call captured a 622 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: mother's anguish and a child's trauma. Back in April, a 623 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: hell of gunfire shattered the night of Nashville's Cumberland View 624 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Housing projects, an area known as Dodge City. Three year 625 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: old Jamala Marlowe was one of three people called in 626 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: the crossfire. Jamala never made it homey at the hospital 627 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: in a Moore. That is not right for a three 628 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: year old to be in a Moore at this age. 629 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: She was an innocent baby. I just want to pray 630 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: with y'all right now. It came on the second night 631 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: of grief in the neighborhood over the shooting death of 632 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: a local gang figure. Video from social media shows a 633 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: visual the night before that had erupted into a gun 634 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: waiting celebration of life. The deceased man. Cleveland Shaw, was 635 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: a paid employee of the nine violence group Gideon's Army. 636 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: What we do is we take people who are credible 637 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: messengers and we mentor them and we helped to pull 638 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: them off the streets and help them to transform their lives. 639 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: And Cleveland was in that process. But it's a process. 640 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: Cleting is a second prince of the project. At Shawn's funeral, 641 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Gudeon's Armies have been a guide body, and other group 642 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: leaders held him as a violence at eruptor and a 643 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: neighborhood hero. We know the police and no part of 644 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: the law like Cleveland because they don't like black men 645 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: who know how to carry themselves and protect and provide 646 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: like they chose. But the truth about the Gideon's Army 647 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: employee our investigation discovered is much more complicated. Inside the 648 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: three wheeled vehicle that Shaw was driving, police found three 649 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: high powered firearms, even though he was legally prohibited from 650 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: carrying a weapon because of a domestic violence conviction that 651 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: was under investigation for the admitted shooter. Carrie Crawford, the 652 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: estrange boyfriend of Cleveland Shaw's sister, recorded this Facebook live 653 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: on his way to meet police, where he told them 654 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: he shot Shaw in self defense. Police believe Shaw had 655 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: also shot up Crawford's cart and his mother's house the 656 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: night before. Fattuga refuses to believe it. They don't have 657 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: any video of that, and the dead men tell no tails. 658 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: What was his reputation? It was the show color. He 659 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: was for the gag. His word was dal and people 660 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: feared him. Yes, this undercover Metro Police gang detective new 661 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland Shaw as the money flashing head of a street 662 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: gang that called itself the Dotch City Young Gunners DCYG 663 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: for short. The song sung at that visual back in 664 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: April was a tribute to the gang. The balloons were 665 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: the gang's colors, part of what police is the five 666 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: two or give me the stas. It was the same 667 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: gang from which Hambino Guide bid he came before he 668 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: was busted in twenty twelve for trafficking cocaine. No game 669 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: right now, a game that the Gideon's Army leader just 670 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: saluted in the Facebook post on May second. Five two 671 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: d is a very volunt street ganger in Nashville. They 672 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: had no royalties to anyone else but their their own game. 673 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: What is their source of income? Narcotics and robberies. According 674 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: to Gideon's Army, Cleveland, Shaw began working as a volunteer 675 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty after the tornado that hit North Nashville, 676 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: but when the tornado happened in Comberland View, Cleveland was 677 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: the first person to come with food. You know, I'm 678 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: with the Gideon's Army. I'm don't check on the office 679 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: onmy Then in October, Gideon's Army put Shaw on the 680 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: p role, supposedly to keep the peace in the same 681 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: projects where his criminal activity had resulted in his being 682 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: banned from the property, and when police arrested Shaw to 683 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: enforce the no trespassing order. Gideon's Army portrayed him as 684 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: a victim. I'm gonna but what a victim of overly 685 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: aggressive policing. You put him to work in Cumberland View, 686 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: knowing that he was banned from that property. I didn't 687 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: understand the bandlist in that way. He had been there 688 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: the whole time to try to get the Metro Housing 689 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Agency to take Shaw off the bandlist, getting his army 690 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: produced this video showing neighborhood children talking about how Shaw 691 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: had showered them with money. Even the records showed that. 692 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: In an appending court case, Shaw swore he didn't have 693 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: a job, didn't make any money, didn't receive government assistance. 694 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: Where did you think he was getting his money? We 695 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: were paying him, Phil? Did they anything when he showed 696 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: up after the tornado? Where did you think he was 697 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: getting his money? We didn't ask because he didn't do 698 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: that for us us. He did that for the community. 699 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: They didn't ask, And that may have been just the 700 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: fab group overlooked or ignorede. Later in this newscast, we 701 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: reveal other evidence that the game leader wasn't the hero 702 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: that Gideon's Army has tried to Clean two Peace special 703 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: on this um and they portrayed that, you know, they 704 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: portrayed Cleveland in a real bad light. Man amiss his death. 705 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of that's a bit much 706 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: dog like, that's that's kind of crazy. I mean, if 707 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: I would say that, I would say this, if Gideon, 708 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: if Gideon's Army is that bad that you're saying, then 709 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have to use the person that's deceased. 710 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: That couldn't they can't respond for themselves to prove that 711 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: they are right. They should probably have You should probably 712 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: have somebody that's you know, they can defend the accusations 713 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: that maybe you're bringing up against them. I mean, I 714 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: always fail in communication, right, So I mean, if we're 715 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: this bad of a situation, you know, it's like yoding 716 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: acts of violence allegedly committed by some of gideon Armies 717 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: on Listing This Good Evening. Tonight, news Channel five investigates 718 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: uncovers serious questions about a popular social justice group and 719 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: its claims to have dramatically reduced crime in North Nashville. 720 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: Those claims have given Gideon's Army growing political clout in 721 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: the city, but an exclusive news Channel five investigation has 722 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: discovered those claims ignore real violence, including acts of violence 723 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: allegedly committed by some of gideon Armies own people. News 724 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: Channel five Cheap investigative reporter Phil Williams has the results 725 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: of a six month investigation. Phil okay, it's Gideon's Army 726 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: claims it deserves another million dollars of your money because 727 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: it was able to eliminate violent crime in a Nashville 728 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: neighborhood that's so notorious it got its own song. But 729 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: our investigation discovered, despite the group's best intentions, those claims 730 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: are just not true. I'm going to raise from over there, 731 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: so it's like it's our own for me here in 732 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: the Comberland View housing projects up north Nashville and area 733 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: who's violent history long ago earned it the nickname Dodge City. 734 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: We had witnessed how leaders of Gideon's Army have tried 735 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: to upend the notion that it's up to police to 736 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: impost law and order. It is about creating, save save 737 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 1: zones and saves children. And I early, let me say 738 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: this an arguing that it's up to the community. Let 739 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: me say this about at airte for ships show. You know, 740 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: he's every day he's driving for so you know what 741 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like them dudes got good people in their organizations. Man, 742 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: I can you know? So I just don't like I say. Man, 743 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate that the news take these type of 744 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: approaches to us, right, you gotta give us, you know, 745 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: damn if we're doing that bad, like don't use my 746 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: pass on me. If I'm doing that bad, you got 747 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: me down, don't you Why you keep bringing up Listen, 748 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: I hate somebody to do that. I hate a person 749 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: to do that. I gave you this, Uh, I gave 750 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: you some money, yo, bro, stop you bringing yo. If 751 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm what you saying, I am. You should have something 752 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: right now if you're the big dog and all this 753 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: and that what's going on right now, and then to 754 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: be able to use somebody that what's name is is 755 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: very weird. But but LT it's getting certificates and every 756 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: day helping people with training and working out and and everything. 757 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: And I see video of him being on in the 758 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: community doing this one two every day, So like it's weird. Man, 759 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: it's I don't know. It seemed like some kind of 760 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: disconnect now what they're saying numbers wise, I can't confirm 761 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: or deny. I don't know. I don't know about that. 762 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the quality of individual that I'm speaking 763 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: about in regards to lt. You see what I'm saying 764 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: and him be no, you know, like I say, he 765 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: hadn't been on my show as well, and he, like 766 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: I say, I'm always seeing him doing what he's doing. 767 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: But to paint that whole organization like it, that's kind 768 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: of why well to find peace in hermiting. We put 769 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: the love in the jailhood, you know what I'm saying, 770 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: Like when you make sure you know where it ain't 771 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: no Barn's going on. But this scene from the neighborhood 772 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: back in August reveals another sight of get in's or 773 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: meets efforts. Residents decided to make it difficult for police 774 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: who came there to arrest a convicted killer wanted for 775 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: violation of his federal probation. That man, Charles Brooks, was 776 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: a paid employee of Gideon's Army Court. In police records rebuilt, 777 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: he was also one of the people involved in this 778 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: shootout in the neighborhood back in April. The focus is 779 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: on what people see as being the failures of Gideon's Army. 780 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: Gideon's Army founder Rashida Patuga doesn't see that incident as 781 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: a reflection on her group. We lose people in war, 782 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know, generals and everybody try to 783 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: save everybody that they can. It just doesn't happen a way. 784 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: So you guys are all violence interrupters. What does that mean? Exactly? 785 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: Clearly we interrupted violence. Those efforts have brought them national attention, 786 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: along with taxpayer money and public donations. Gideon's Army tax 787 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: return showed that in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, the group 788 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: took in almost one and a half million dollars, some 789 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: of that taxpayer money from the Tennessee Department of Human Services. Simmon, 790 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: we're asking that you please find Gideon's Army. With the 791 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: million dollars that's been added this summer, Fatuca and her 792 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: group convinced Central Counsel to approve another million dollars for 793 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: violence interruption programs like theirs. What I find interested in 794 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: those situations. You see how you use certain names when 795 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: he's in court and he's talking, but didn't use total 796 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 1: different names. It's not in court talk like it's like okay, 797 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 1: so you're mixing these things up in my I'm trying 798 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: to understand what's happening here. You see what I'm saying. 799 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: The name I just heard you use that asked the 800 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: judge for the money to fund gideons on me being 801 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: effective in the community isn't the same names I've been 802 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: hearing you saying. But yet you'll use those names to 803 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: paint gideons on me, but won't use that name to 804 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: paint gideons. Maybe I'm not making sense. Let's go, let's 805 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: run anything, or did their pitch their record in Cumberland views, 806 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: we had no shootings, no homicide, no robberies, no carjackings, 807 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: nothing for almost a year, ten months, and that's been 808 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: unheard of it. But we checked in. During the ten 809 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: months when Guinea's army says there was no violence here, 810 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: police received thirty eight calls about shootings, shots being fired, 811 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: or people with weapons. So we don't deny that. Those 812 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: we don't deny. We've never said that those didn't happen. 813 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: What time period are you measuring, so I guess that 814 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: would be four months, So you're saying maybe it wasn't 815 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: ten months without No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, 816 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: what I understand is that it has been ten months. 817 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Among those shootings was that gun battle back in April. 818 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: But Fatuca says the shootout allegedly involving her own employee, 819 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: doesn't count. There's a difference between shootings and contact. So 820 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: now he's talking about between shootings and contact shootings. What 821 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: we measure is who has been shot. But why you 822 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: don't use something you know, somebody else background is what 823 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We can't use one person to paint, and 824 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: especially someone that can't defend himselves, like that's weird. That's right, 825 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: because no one was hit by the gunfire, getting his 826 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: army doesn't count it as an act of violence. That 827 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: damn clip they Salda died out a fifteen round clip. 828 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Nor did it count. This gun battle in 829 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: July twenty twenty between two rival gangs, again apparently because 830 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: no one was actually shot. Natural National nine one one 831 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: was the address of their emergency. The black car. There 832 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: was also an incident a month earlier. There was two 833 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: cars there were straight when a chase that began in 834 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: Cumberland View ended in one car running another off the 835 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: route a few miles away. Multiple witnesses identified Geteons Army 836 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 1: volunteer Cleveland Shaw, a local gang figure, as the suspect 837 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: in the case, and when a man was shot two 838 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: weeks later, the Getteons Army volunteer was again identified as 839 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: a suspect. The group didn't count that one either. As 840 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: for the alleged involvement of two of her own people 841 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: in three separate shootings, and neither were charged or convicted. 842 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: And this is supposed to be a democracy, and what 843 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: we do is we hand out convictions before anyone has 844 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: had their due process, and that's not fair. And after 845 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: Shaw went on the group's p role, there was another 846 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: shooting in the neighborhood this past March. Surveillance cameras captured 847 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: the Gideon's Army employee holding quite investigators described as an 848 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: AK forty seven type weapon. Shaw would end up being 849 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 1: killed in another shootout not for from the neighborhood this 850 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: past April. Well, he said they believe the man who 851 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: shot Shaw was acting in self defense. Still, Fatuga makes 852 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: no apologies. I will say feel that this work isn't pretty. 853 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: I will say feel that it might be a kid 854 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: in North Nashville who we lose tomorrow it might be 855 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: a young adult that we're working with paid unpaid, that 856 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: we're trying to do everything that we can to change 857 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: their life, but at least we are doing something. After 858 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: our interview, we followed up with Miss Fatuga to give 859 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: her a chance to document her claims about how Gideon's 860 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: Army's efforts have reduced violence, but she never responded to 861 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: that question. We also checked police calls for service and 862 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: that data just does not show any major changes. So 863 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in the community who've 864 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: had some positive interactions with Gideon's Army, Right, So is 865 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: there any question about their good intentions? You know, absolutely not, 866 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of people do think they have some 867 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: good ideas. But these are complicated issues and it's important 868 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: to be honest for the sake of the people who 869 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: live in this community, the people you heard in those 870 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: one calls, when bullets are still flying and when people 871 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: continue to live in fear, Rory and zout. Convincing the 872 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: council to all keep a million dollars of taxpayer money 873 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 1: around tells the public it's all about justice, peace and harmony. 874 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: But now an exclusive news Channel five investigation has discovered 875 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: a sign of the group most have never seen. News 876 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: Channel five chief investigative reporter Phil Williams spent six months 877 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: coming through the social media of the group's leaders, and 878 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: what he uncovered is sure to raise questions about what 879 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: your tax dollars are supporting. If I ask this for funding, 880 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: support in the amount of one million dollars fees love Unity. 881 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 1: This past summer, Gideon's Army went to the Metro Council 882 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: with hands out, convincing the council to allocate a million 883 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: dollars of taxpayer money for violence prevention efforts like theirs 884 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: and I tend to do about it. Where have you from? 885 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: Stop the bounty community? Gideon's Army founder Rashida Fatuga says 886 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: the group's work with the kids of North Nashville though 887 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: we need Guidea's Armies to come back. It's what Gideon's 888 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: Armie is really all about. We work to eliminate the 889 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: root causes of the prison pipeline, save our children from 890 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: death and incarceration, save all children from death and incarceration. 891 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: Call it nice guy, but buried amongst social media posts 892 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: by some of Gideon's Army's frontline leaders, we discovered a 893 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: side of the group that most of the public has 894 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: never seen planets, confusing su Hombino. Guide Body, as he's 895 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: known of the streets, its outreach coordinator for Gideon's Army 896 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: and heads up the group's violence in Eruption program. It 897 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: was the murder of George Floyd that led Guide Body 898 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: to post this video about white people, a video that 899 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: he recently reposted, insisting what I'm speaking is true history. 900 00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: We are at all trying to make what While George 901 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: Floyd experienced the direct trauma of that, there's still a 902 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: secondary trauma that we as black people often do experience 903 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: when we see someone strangled to death by the police. 904 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: We don't have any people on the earth. Bibles lived 905 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: in peace. People all would Yeah, I thought God Body 906 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 1: even posted this article on Facebook, but suggests an ancient 907 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: scientists created caucations who quote became an out of control 908 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: pestilence to humanity and the planet itself. I get being 909 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 1: ticked off about racism, but if a white person said 910 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: all black people are bad, would you have problems with 911 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: them getting taxpayer funding? It is not the same situation. 912 00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: Gideon's Army receives funding. Gideon's Army receives funding, and this 913 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: is but let me finish this. Let me finish we 914 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: determine the direction and the mission of Gideon's Army. Y'all 915 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: want to know what real kings warriors in God's due? Huh, 916 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: they waged war on the enemies. We've been the passive 917 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 1: too long. Then there's Chef Might True getting his armies 918 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: community director, a position that sometimes puts him on the 919 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: streets with the area's children. Start teaching your children how 920 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: to shoot, Start equipping your children with weapons, Teach them 921 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: how to stick somebody with a knife. True recorded this 922 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: rant after the killing of a mighty arbore, suggesting that 923 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: the community needed to be ready to defend itself. But 924 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,720 Speaker 1: it didn't stop there. And I don't said when Daniel 925 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: han'trig was shot. And I'm gonna say it again. If 926 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 1: the NFU white mother ever suit my child, I swear 927 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: to God, I'm gonna go bag dad around his True 928 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: had been friend and center and getting his army accepted 929 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars check from the gun Control Group. 930 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: Mom's demand action, but listen to his ideas for dealing 931 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: with issues like mass incarceration. Y'all want to know how 932 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: to overturn the prisons take the system. Y'all know how 933 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: many of us it is. Y'all know anything about prison rights. 934 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: They ain't got enough people to kill all of us. 935 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: They ain't got enough people to kill all of us. 936 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: Are those kind of comments in keeping with your mission? 937 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: The police also called themselves Nashville's guardians. But I'm asking 938 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: about getting hear you. I hear you, I hear you, 939 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: And every officer also holds different opinions. We have got 940 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: to level up, We've got to train ourselves, we have 941 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: got to protect ourselves. After the George Floyd killing, True 942 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: argued that the answer was to make police fear getting 943 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: killed when they come into black communities. I know of 944 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: incidents in Chicago, well, police tried to arreste people and 945 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: the city like when they came out and was wasn't happy. 946 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: The police backed up and left like man, we're just 947 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: gonna talk out tail and leave. It ain't even work 948 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: for me. You see what I'm saying, Because they knew 949 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: that then people they was dealing with, it's gonna be 950 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: a gun fight, and those iicers ain't ready to die. 951 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: But he's talking about wanting the community to threaten to 952 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: kill cops. I don't take it that way, Phil, I 953 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: don't I don't really want to get in a tip 954 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:30,479 Speaker 1: for tap with what one of you know my team 955 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: members has said, especially in a time where we are 956 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: feeling afraid for our lives, do you guys get vaccinated? 957 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: No vaccination booth men have also posted misinformation about COVID 958 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: vaccines at a time when the city has tried to 959 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: commence residents to protect themselves from the virus. And they 960 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: heard a bunch of you mothers to the death NW 961 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: this vaccine true even took aim at Harry Medical College president, 962 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: doctor James Hildreth. They used him to sell you the 963 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: dream of safety because he's studied epidemiology. He's the leading 964 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: doctor in infectious disease, marking Hildred's impressive medical credentials. All 965 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: that mean is that you learned how to be a 966 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: good house, do what they say, do long enough to 967 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: learn their mentality, and you the token boy post boy 968 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: to spread that infestation amongst our people. Are you concerned 969 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: that this type of rhetoric will reflect battling on Gideon's army? 970 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: It is my hope that the people of Nashville will 971 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: remember the origins of Gideon's Army and that the people 972 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: of Nashville will know us by our work and by 973 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, the results that we have had in Nashville 974 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. That's Phil Williams reporting. 975 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: You can see those controversial social media post man lock 976 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: going on, Lock going on, lock going on. All right. Um, 977 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: So Dave Chappelle, Dave Chappelle dropped his UM comedy special 978 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: on Netflix, and I'm gonna be honest, I appreciated from 979 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: a different perspective. You know, a couple of things, um 980 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: that I was thinking about, you know, as dealing as 981 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: listening to it. I'm like, yo, he's kind of changed 982 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: what comedy is. Um, not necessarily changed what comedy is, 983 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: because you still got people doing their thing. You gotta 984 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: shouts them doing it. His his little way of comedy. 985 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: Rogan still doing this thing, Bird Tom, you got a 986 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: whole bunch of them. Then on the outside, you still 987 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: got a little Duval kicking high, Cat Williams kicking high, 988 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: Chris Rock. You know. So it's it's several different ways 989 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: to do this stand up thing. But when we listened 990 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: to to Dave, he's kind of turned these things into 991 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: ted Right, there's comedy there, um, And to me, I 992 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: wanted did that brain the is that see? I gotta 993 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: I gotta always, I gotta always remember when I viewed 994 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: things I viewed through my lens. Right, So to me 995 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: that seems easier. I would have to ask, like I 996 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: would probably add shots or one of these comedians. Is 997 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: the way that Dave is doing comedy? Is it easier 998 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: that way? Right? Because I think to get that laugh 999 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: to come as a very that's a very hard thing 1000 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: to do, right, But he's he's changed it from the 1001 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: laugh to keeping you engaged, like basically, you know, platform friendly, 1002 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: very platform friendly because he's keeping you engaged. The problem 1003 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: is if you're a comedian and you come out and 1004 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: you're not hidding, you'll lose the audience. Right. I'm just 1005 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: saying if they're watching it, if you're in the building, 1006 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: you still got me. I'm probably not gonna get up 1007 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: and leave. But if I'm watching it on Netflix the 1008 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: way that Dave Chappelle is doing it, it fits their 1009 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: business model, stay on the platform longer because he's not 1010 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: rapid firing jokes, which nobody's saying that that's the way 1011 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: you have to do comedy. I'm just trying to examine 1012 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: what he's doing because because I'm telling you something, I 1013 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it from a totally different perspective than comedy. Like, 1014 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I know it's comedy, it's a comic, the greatest one 1015 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of the goats doing it. But it's like it's evolved, 1016 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: he's evolving what it is, you know, from a consumer 1017 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: standpoint when I watch it, because I'm basically like I 1018 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: win thirty minutes or whatever it is. I'm literally glued 1019 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: into what this dude is saying and what I see 1020 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 1: with amateur comedy guys sometimes they depend on the crowd 1021 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: so much that they'll start to rush the shot. I 1022 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: noticed with Dave Chappelle. No matter what, he doesn't speed 1023 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: that cadence, so he will not get out of that cadence. 1024 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Either you come down to my level or you miss 1025 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the message you see. Lucky for him, he's been able 1026 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: to bring a lot of people not my level come 1027 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: down because or come up whichever way you're viewing it. 1028 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: But you have to come to my match, my frequency, 1029 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: whatever that is. And then if you can tap into 1030 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: that frequency, I got you. You know what I'm saying. 1031 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: And the problem with with with comedy or comedians or 1032 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: amateurst that I've seen because I kind of been watching 1033 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: it because you know, I like the art for him 1034 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: and study it. Um. You know, they kind of rush 1035 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: it because the crowd ain't giving them what they you know, 1036 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, they speaking something from the crowd that's not coming, 1037 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: so they're trying to force the shot, or force it, 1038 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: or force it. And I noticed that Dave, no matter what, 1039 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: he may take a long pause and then hit the 1040 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: mic for the laugh, like all those little things means 1041 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: nothing to the consumer, but to the creative and to 1042 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: the it does something to you experience. See that you 1043 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: don't even know that it done to the experience. You 1044 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, I'm talking about this layers to it. 1045 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: But I appreciated that from a different perspective. We got 1046 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. Um, he spoke about the baby, 1047 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: he spoke about LGBT community, spoke about one of his 1048 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: friends that was I think it was a trans woman 1049 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and it showed him a lot of love that end 1050 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: up killing herself or come in suicide RP to Herum, 1051 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: But it was a it was a dance he did. 1052 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: And UM, see the thing the thing about comedy is 1053 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: really the only at form that's left alone. It's really 1054 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the only off form that's left alone in this day 1055 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: and age. And I won't even say left alone because 1056 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: they even get bothered, you know. But it's probably one 1057 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: of the more freer art forms that the world has 1058 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: to offer in its canceled culture type of error. And 1059 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle walks that line because it's important that everything 1060 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: ain't ain't control, you know. Um. And again, if it's 1061 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: information coming out of it, man, I don't know, like yo, man, 1062 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: like I can appreciate it. You know. My concern is 1063 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 1: though with comedy, Um, a lot of people are gonna 1064 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: start to trying to test that to their name, man, 1065 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and like, I'm really into it, So I'm gonna I'm 1066 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna start really looking into it. But some people are 1067 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna start just attaching it to their name and and 1068 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 1: and using it as a shield. Because it's almost the 1069 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: last art form where you're able to even say anything, 1070 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You won't really see any 1071 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: other um, any other group of people you know, be 1072 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: able to operate in that way and say some of 1073 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: those things under the guys of if it being jokes. 1074 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people, said Dave Chappelle talked 1075 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: about the baby killing someone in Wall Mart and not 1076 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: being viewed a certain way versus saying something to the 1077 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: LGBT community and being viewed a certain way. The only 1078 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: difference in that is self defense. I've seen that point made, 1079 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: so we're not breaking new ground with that. The problem 1080 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I have though, is following that, Um, there was a 1081 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: lot of coalitions coming out. I mean it was the 1082 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: right wing, the right wing San Francisco forty nine ers 1083 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: call for Netflix to pull his special. The problem with 1084 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: that is that you never see these coalitions when someone's murdered. 1085 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: We got Daniel handbrike in Nashville. I still ain't let 1086 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: that go man. A lot of y'all you know, um 1087 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: talk this talk man and won't really see no help. 1088 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: You know when in regards to when some certain people 1089 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: get killed by the police. So people get killed of 1090 01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: violence in in in totality, information being given to the neighborhood, 1091 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 1: knowing how to fish, knowing how to go get some money, 1092 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 1: understanding what the next move need to be, critical thinking, 1093 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: not being a fake gangster. I have a despise for that, 1094 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, because I understand there's destruction on the other side. 1095 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 1: You know, I see people, uh, you know, waging war 1096 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: against a gang banging. You know, I don't take it 1097 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: that far because I don't understand it from that perspective. 1098 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: But but but I have a disdain for the destruction 1099 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 1: of the mind. You know, are the young dudes man 1100 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: and um to me, it hits you so in a 1101 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: place where you can't really be sough about it, you know, 1102 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: because what happens is there's life at stake. There's there's 1103 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: there's life at stake. You playing these little games. It's 1104 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: life at stake, you understand. And the things that you're you're, You're, 1105 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: you're you're. The things that you get, you gotta hope 1106 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,439 Speaker 1: that they are useful when you get what you going. 1107 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of times everything you get come from 1108 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: some what's listen boy, Everything you get from your mama 1109 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: most times, and everybody know I'm a mama's boy. Everything 1110 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you get from your mama. As a man, most of 1111 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: those things will not be useful when you get where 1112 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 1: you're going. As a man. You gotta hope and pray 1113 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: that alone the land you pick up other things that's 1114 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna be useful when you get where you're going. The 1115 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: critical information that you get as a man going through 1116 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: life is where you're gonna have to. Hopefully you be 1117 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: able to make up for some of the misinformation, because 1118 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 1: all they're trying to do is give you what they 1119 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: think they know, but they don't know what it's like 1120 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 1: to go play in their ball game because they never 1121 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 1: played in their ball game. They just viewed the game. 1122 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, So it be so it 1123 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: would be so much involved, man that I don't see 1124 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: these coalitions come out. I don't see the coalitions call 1125 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: for the firing of Derek Schouvin. You know, I see 1126 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 1: NAACP and certain things like that sometime BLM, stuff like that. 1127 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: But I'm talking people that's calling for the pulling of 1128 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: the special I've never heard of. And that's I'm not 1129 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: saying that as a slight. I'm saying that as a 1130 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: your reach. What we why I gotta hear why the 1131 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: first time I hear from you? We gotta be for 1132 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: canceling a black dude? Why the first time we got why? 1133 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: Why y'all don't ever call for conversation Ayo, the wood 1134 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: the woo Corelation, call for Dave Schappelle to come meet 1135 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 1: us on Harvard commit us at Harvard for a conversation 1136 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: with the professor about X, Y, and Z to educate 1137 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 1: because again, that's what I'm trying to tell you. What 1138 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: when these people got one way of doing things, and 1139 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: that's why it's important that people like me get in position, 1140 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: because I didn't view things from to every single way 1141 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: that it can be viewed, to the point where I 1142 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do much else. Else. I ain't 1143 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: been able to do much else because all I do 1144 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: is try to figure shit out. That's not a penalty. 1145 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: That's luxury for me. That's being rich for me being 1146 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 1: able to You did what I'm saying, So it's all 1147 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: about perspective. But I enjoyed the special. Dave Chappelle one 1148 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,560 Speaker 1: of the greatest in the world. I'm sure I have 1149 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: another point on it soon. So after Dave Chappelle spoke 1150 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:35,839 Speaker 1: about the baby's murder or self defense situation, Michael Blaxton 1151 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 1: then called him mine and said, Dave Chappelle just snitched 1152 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 1: one the baby. They didn't even know nothing about that, 1153 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 1: So then you, like you basically random hot um. That 1154 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: has become Michael Blaxton's game. That's his brand, right When 1155 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 1: a big comedian does something come to him, you know 1156 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, come to him for the critique of it, 1157 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: or the critique of the you know that culture, you know. 1158 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: And so um the thing about comedians, boy that you 1159 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: see how they don't get they seen it, don't them 1160 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 1: couldn't have been two rappers there were two rappers right now, 1161 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: be entouragees somewhere right now shooting at each other. If 1162 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: then was two rappers right now, be entourages right now 1163 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: shooting at each other, you know what I'm saying, it 1164 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't be just no friendly And then Dave Chappelle, he 1165 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: was at the Dave Chappelle show. He was at the 1166 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle show shortly after that. So now it wouldn't 1167 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,640 Speaker 1: have been that. There would have been some smoke about that. 1168 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: There'd have been a problem. So it's good to even 1169 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 1: see they able to do that. Then them grown men. Man. 1170 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: But but but um that story about that transgender that 1171 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: touched me what Dave Schappelle was talking about, man, because 1172 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: that later just wanted to meet him. Um ended up 1173 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: meeting them, you know, saying he was a great guy, 1174 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 1: loved them. She ended up being a comedian. He let 1175 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: her get on stage, try to help out. You know. 1176 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 1: Um when when all that happened with that last special 1177 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: in the in the community went at him, Um, you know, 1178 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: she stood up for him and got slandered online, you know, 1179 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 1: and I think she ended up, like I said, end up, 1180 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: ended up, end up transitioning. So that was a hell 1181 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: of a thing man and he and he set up 1182 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 1: a fund to something for her children some probably some 1183 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 1: money and stuff. So that's a that's a mean situation 1184 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: to be in, right there, for real, can never fly. Absolutely, Yes, 1185 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: that's true. In my scenario, all the ices and issues 1186 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: go start podcasts and just run them. Yeah you can 1187 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: do that, but what stop? And as you run them, 1188 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: you do it with knowledge of all the different pathways 1189 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 1: to make a dollar, and it's millions of them. And 1190 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: now y'all as creators figure it out as you go, 1191 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: and you're running in some hurdles, but you'll get to 1192 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: your destination because it's too much money hopefully, And you know, 1193 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: and you know I'm saying, you know, yeah, I know 1194 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: that's a fact. I was like, Yo, if you knew, 1195 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: you could put your dick on all right, So let 1196 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: me catch y'all up. What we're listening to right now 1197 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: is Joe Button. We're about to get into a situation 1198 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 1: where he spoke about have a meeting, having a meeting 1199 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: with the podcaster, just getting some numbers, and it was 1200 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: a very unique encounter. Now right now we're just kind 1201 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: of tapping in. We don't even know where they at. 1202 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 1: But let's listen to a little bit and then we'll 1203 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 1: we'll come back and speak one fifty you say you 1204 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,759 Speaker 1: do it because you know you know, So it's different. 1205 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is in my scenario since Elvis, they've 1206 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 1: never let us know. Even today, we don't know how 1207 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: to make Dawn let us know, right because they want 1208 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: you to say, I need I need you hey. But 1209 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: all of these that's absolutely it's monetizing. Now, I could 1210 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 1: get money from here and here and here and in 1211 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: the apps, and if you get ten cents from all 1212 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: of them, you might have a dollar. But what they're 1213 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 1: doing with your rights, because you're right, we walk right 1214 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: in and sit down and start recording in somebody else's house. Yeah, 1215 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 1: so yeah, that happens. When that happens in my story, 1216 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the creators don't feel like they have to do that. 1217 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: In my story, I may stop right now, I'm not 1218 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: sure and what he's talking about, because I know I 1219 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 1: just punched y'all in is um it's TikTok ruining music 1220 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and the consumption of music, um, and will it ruined 1221 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 1: the way that music is being created? There for some 1222 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: of the real musicians never get a shot by default 1223 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 1: because the whole business is now tied into a ten 1224 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: second clip that tick talk loves, right, And so that 1225 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 1: story conversation evolves into now them talking about just how 1226 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 1: to get money with the information, how to get money 1227 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 1: with the views, with the listens, with the clicks, with 1228 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 1: the impressions, with the CPM, how to understand and look 1229 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: at the analytics and the demo and the retention and 1230 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: all of these things, and then how to analyze that 1231 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 1: and actually pitch that in a way where you actually 1232 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: are profitable is also another thing as well. So just 1233 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: wanted to catch you'all, luck y'all went to having met 1234 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,839 Speaker 1: another day. Here we go, after my year of clearing 1235 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: people out, getting people away from me, because transparently, I've 1236 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: had a year of talking to creators that don't really 1237 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, just about to say that 1238 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: they'd have no idea what they're talking about. I go 1239 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: sit down with this gentleman popping podcasts popular. I asked 1240 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: them to go to dinner with me. He came, came 1241 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: with his man, must be his business man. But that 1242 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't Who cares, he says, So what do all the pleasure? 1243 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,639 Speaker 1: I said, nothing, I just want to have dinner. You're 1244 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 1: looking at a broken man. You're looking at it respectfully, 1245 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: you know. I think, um, what they've done to Joe Button. 1246 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 1: See how he's he's afraid. He think everybody won't some 1247 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: eg he got, you know, he can't. You know, he's 1248 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 1: in a weird place. Man. They broke his spirit. Man, 1249 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: then't broke him down. Man that last year. Now he's 1250 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 1: still Joe Button and he's still operating at a high level, 1251 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:44,560 Speaker 1: still a great podcast. It's I feel like it's the 1252 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: only thing that's keeping him halfway, you know. And he'll 1253 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: be okay, it'll take time, he'll be ill. But they 1254 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 1: doesn't effectively broke him down with the move that was 1255 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: made with Rory and Mall. And it ain't because that 1256 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: he's weak. It's because he never saw it coming. People 1257 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: like me, people like Joe people that's you know, critical thinkers, 1258 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'm a counsel, so I don't know what everybody 1259 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: else is. But you consider a whole bunch of things. 1260 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: You consider the woman leaving, You consider the money leaving. 1261 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 1: You consider the deal not coming. You consider walking away 1262 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: from fifty million, thirty million, ten million, whatever it is. 1263 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 1: You consider the car breaking down, You consider the house. 1264 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Something may happen, and you prepared. If somebody kicked the 1265 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: dough in, you prepared, if somebody you know, it's so 1266 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: many things, you was prepared and aware of that. When 1267 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 1: one get through that and you didn't see it, it 1268 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: hit different. And that is what he's dealing with after 1269 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: the Rory and mal debacle. And I think that they're 1270 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 1: making him rebuild, Like when I look at it's and 1271 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: ice and we'll get back into this. But when I 1272 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 1: look at it's and ice and they don't even see 1273 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: the player. Why he's trying to tread lightly on the 1274 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 1: Facebook topic. I don't have any deals. I got one 1275 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 1: deal with Facebook. I don't want to like like I'm 1276 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: trying to dance around the Facebook thing. But I know 1277 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Ish has enough sense that if he knew kind of 1278 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: how these things work, he would put two and two together. 1279 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Because he's his mind is going ice. Probably just don't 1280 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 1: he ain't tapped in. He might not. Oh, I wasn't 1281 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 1: even thinking about it, bro, But it's a Facebook deal 1282 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,719 Speaker 1: in place. That's literally probably one of the only deals 1283 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,440 Speaker 1: that currently is out on the forefront for his podcast. 1284 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: So we got to communicate in a certain way about Facebook. 1285 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: They do give money out you see Jada and them 1286 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 1: got something over there. They give money out over there. 1287 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: It's money everywhere you hear him talk about it. But 1288 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: when you hear a man say hey, soon as a 1289 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: young up and coming, impressionable podcaster is looking at you 1290 01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 1: like the head of a you know, made it all 1291 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: way up to the mountain. Oh, man, what do I 1292 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: owe a pleasure? Nothing? Nothing. I don't want nothing, bro, nothing. 1293 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't want anything from you. I don't. It's paranoia. 1294 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: You attest to that. Everybody's acting like that, you know, 1295 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 1: because you gotta think it's a lot going on. When 1296 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 1: you get to the top, you take a lot of arrows. Man, 1297 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: you're doing good. I spoke to you last year and 1298 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,600 Speaker 1: you were doing good. So this is just a check in. 1299 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't want nothing from you, right, we keep talking? 1300 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 1: Says yeah, man, but how do I get these ads 1301 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: hook me up? I said, no, why would I do that? 1302 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Even cook, I don't want parks. I love you, Bro, 1303 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from you about this kind 1304 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: of stuff. You're doing great a lot of people. You've 1305 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: been put in a great position, bro, Like, come on, Bro, 1306 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: it sounded right to me? Did sound right to me? Yeah? 1307 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Of course, because he's supposed used to ask that. He's 1308 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 1: supposed to ask that I'm getting numbers. Fuck you mean 1309 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 1: it don't sound right, That's what I'd be saying, Bro, 1310 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: be a bunch of you. See, man, let me relax 1311 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 1: because see see how quick I could have went right there, 1312 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 1: and that's what they paid me for. But I'm trying. 1313 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm figuring something out about that day right now. They 1314 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 1: hope I keep doing that so they can take it. 1315 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 1: So I gotta chill with that for just a second. 1316 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 1: But you gotta be careful with your communication where you're 1317 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 1: talking about creators, bro, especially being a white man in 1318 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 1: a hip hop culture where you've been lended so much privilege. 1319 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 1: And we're not saying you don't deserve it. We know 1320 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: you want us deep down up under the hip hoppity hippy. 1321 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about one us from that perspective, not the 1322 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: other one. You could never touch that other side that 1323 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,719 Speaker 1: I come from. But from the hip hop, backpack head phone, 1324 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 1: you know understand eight oas and high hat thing you 1325 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: want us and I feel as though you ride with us. 1326 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: But when we go to talking about a black person 1327 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 1: coming to a black person about information in this game, 1328 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,559 Speaker 1: where has none left out and I'm actually got traction 1329 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: in this game, respectfully, I'm gonna ask you to bow 1330 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 1: out that conversation. With all due respect, I think that 1331 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 1: the people that need to have that conversation need to 1332 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: be at the forefront of understanding what it's like to 1333 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 1: be oppressed in this game, in this industry from that perspective, 1334 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 1: because you hit Joe Bund twenty years in crying about information. Still, 1335 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: hey man, with Elvis, they never showed us. That's what 1336 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,560 Speaker 1: we are twenty thirty years bouncing in and out of 1337 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: y'all game and still don't know much of nothing. Allow 1338 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: us to figure this out amongst each other while we're 1339 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 1: breaking new ground with this. We need to be able 1340 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,600 Speaker 1: to come over there and say yo, we need I 1341 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: need to be able to push up on one of 1342 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: them and say, yo, I need some information about the 1343 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: AD game. What do I do? What I told y'all, 1344 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I talked to um Chris Munroe. He didn't say that. 1345 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: He gave me some game about the AD game. Send 1346 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: me the numbers over. I'll take a look at and 1347 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 1: see what's going on. There's still good people in the game. 1348 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,440 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you dealing with he's dealing with paranoia 1349 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 1: because within a game, when when you were black, when 1350 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you got this skin color, you in this game and 1351 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: you deal with things from a different perspective, you treat 1352 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: it different, you receive different. You and you you you, you're, You're, 1353 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:41,679 Speaker 1: You're acknowledged different. You understand me everything about you. It's 1354 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 1: different than the square. Sounded like somebody with a popping 1355 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:53,560 Speaker 1: podcast that should be making something but ain't talking to 1356 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 1: somebody else saying how did you do it? Related information? 1357 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 1: But I was saying, no, I'm not telling you shit. 1358 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,640 Speaker 1: Took me fucking thirty years, man, bumps and bruises to 1359 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: get this shit number one. But the real reason is 1360 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 1: you're not at the spot in your journey to do 1361 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 1: the correct thing with the infamation. I'm gonna call'n. I'm 1362 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna call bullshit on that. Respectfully to Joe Button and 1363 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: whoever the guy is that had the dealer with Joe Button. 1364 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: This is what this comes in, and you gotta know 1365 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 1: how to respect the game. I'm going to sit with 1366 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Joe Button. I'm going to sit with somebody that just 1367 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 1: lost his two biggest hole co hosts that he had 1368 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,560 Speaker 1: on his network, still funding a couple of more podcasts. 1369 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,560 Speaker 1: He's he's probably in the rid somewhere, or have to 1370 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: appear to be in the rid to be to not 1371 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: be out of a hundred two three hundred thousand dollars 1372 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,600 Speaker 1: dealing with Rory and malling them. I need to be 1373 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: coming to Joe showing him how I'm adding value so 1374 01:22:55,320 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 1: we can make money together. You gotta you gotta money 1375 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: with Joe. Let him see some money in that, because 1376 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm already sitting on loss on top on top of loss. 1377 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: And then they come in and say, give give something 1378 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: else away for free. I got people shooting doing all 1379 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 1: this to me, and then they come and say, give 1380 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 1: some more information out for free. Now come in me 1381 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,559 Speaker 1: and say, look, can we do a year contract um 1382 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 1: split to be this, this, this, this, this. I'm gonna 1383 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,679 Speaker 1: work to deals, but I'm gonna use your name, give 1384 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,400 Speaker 1: me free rain to use your name. You don't got 1385 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 1: to do no work. You just kind of get a check. 1386 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,560 Speaker 1: We got twelve months playing going on, you see, and 1387 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: then he might see sixty seven to eight and ninety 1388 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 1: hundred k in that in that twelve months, and he 1389 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't have to move him and then and that's now 1390 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 1: the light cuts on, but the dinner. To come to 1391 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 1: the dinner and then ask how do I make money 1392 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 1: without you involved? That's a crazy thing that shows me 1393 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,000 Speaker 1: you don't got no game. I'm game related. So everything 1394 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: I look at, I look at from that perspective, doll. 1395 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't make mistakes. Thanks so for women and children. 1396 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 1: The mistakes I do make, I learned from them, so 1397 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 1: they lessons. I don't say I didn't I didn't say 1398 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,599 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing wrong. I said, I don't make mistakes. Again, 1399 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm very careful with my communication. So don't try to 1400 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 1: use me against me, because I'm gonna make you look 1401 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: dumb every single time he said, what do you mean? 1402 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I said, well, what do you want to do? He said, 1403 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,639 Speaker 1: I'm thinking network to be up with you. I said, okay, 1404 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,960 Speaker 1: I like where you're going, So you're gonna come to 1405 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: dinner with me. You're gonna tell me. You're gonna ask 1406 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 1: me how do I make money without you doing what 1407 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: you're doing and become your direct competition. And you think 1408 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some kind of business information. Your 1409 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: numbers on an audio he said about twenty thousand. I 1410 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: said about what's your numbers on video? Ye ain't said 1411 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,679 Speaker 1: about ten thousand. We get some suscribes. Its working its 1412 01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: way up. I said, so the network approaches you, tell 1413 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: me how much money you need to get that deal done? 1414 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Right now? You didn't know? It's first answer wasn't. I 1415 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,599 Speaker 1: don't know? That was his second answer. That's a guy 1416 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: that don't got no game. Hey, Joe called me, My 1417 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: numbers are better than twenty thousand. My video is better 1418 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 1: than twenty thousand, My audios better than twenty thousand. I'll 1419 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 1: make your honey k and twelve months call me. Don't worry. 1420 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: You dudes need some people to know how to hustle. 1421 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 1: I was selling. I was selling water, the whales. I 1422 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 1: was selling saying on the beach. You dudes are dealing 1423 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: with people that just probably know how to get in 1424 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,479 Speaker 1: front of a mic and a camera. This thing is 1425 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 1: a total package you must have. You can't be one 1426 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 1: of them, and I'm not one of them. Hit me up. 1427 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: My numbers are better than that, and let's make something happen. 1428 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 1: But there's still a very unique approach, and I have 1429 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 1: to get a game out. To the baby ego made 1430 01:25:54,920 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: you say a number first answer, yes, a fucking million dollars. 1431 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 1: That shows you don't know nothing. Respectfully to the dude, 1432 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,520 Speaker 1: call me and hire me. You can hire me to homeboy. 1433 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: Whoever that is that having those level issues in the 1434 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: game called me, and I explained a few things to you. 1435 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 1: A million dollars won't get it done. In regards to 1436 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,639 Speaker 1: a network. That means you don't understand nothing. I would 1437 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 1: want to leave at that point, he said, Yo, for 1438 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,920 Speaker 1: me to sign that, I need a million dollars, I said, 1439 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 1: check check, please, nothing for us to keep talking about. 1440 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I meant. He said, what you mean? 1441 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 1: I said, you young creators are just hearing things and 1442 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,559 Speaker 1: seeing things and blurting shit out. So I'm gonna give 1443 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 1: you my plugs. They're gonna ask what the numbers is 1444 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: looking like, You're gonna tell them, and then you're gonna 1445 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 1: say you want a million dollars and you're gonna mud 1446 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 1: up my name. Let me tell you before you waste 1447 01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: your time, nobody's given you a million dollars us off 1448 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 1: of these numbers. And if they do, you shouldn't want 1449 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: to take it because they take in all of your 1450 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 1: rights believing in you at this point where you know 1451 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 1: where in there a million dollars, So you nigga should 1452 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,680 Speaker 1: just shut the fuck up. I poisoned too many of 1453 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 1: y'all by talking, so now I ain't talking. And see 1454 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: I told y'all back when he was going through that 1455 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Royal y mall, a lot of that he was dealing 1456 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 1: where he created a lot of that, the understanding of 1457 01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: ownership and all of that. He created that around those 1458 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,840 Speaker 1: guys and they went for that. Had he never had 1459 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: he not talked about that. I'm not sure a lot 1460 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 1: of it because no creed, no podcaster, was talking about 1461 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That's why he ended up being 1462 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: one of the biggest voices. It's very unique to be 1463 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 1: able to talk about the business like I do. It's 1464 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 1: very unique. They can't talk about it. They don't know it, 1465 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 1: they don't have the information. You know, they don't have 1466 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 1: to understanding the critical thinking to be able to look 1467 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: through things and see what things are going, where it hited, 1468 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 1: what it comes from, the possibilities of the risk or 1469 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: except the assessment, they don't know how to do it. 1470 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 1: Second answer was, you're to be honest with you. I 1471 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know, well because none of us know. I got 1472 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 1: I got two things to say. So two things. One, 1473 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 1: I was going to comment on what you said to me, 1474 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 1: and I was saying, like, yo, we could go out 1475 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,600 Speaker 1: and get ourselves hot. We couldn't do that. Same with 1476 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,800 Speaker 1: the indie artist. You can't just go out and get 1477 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: yourself hot. And just to make myself clear, that's not 1478 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 1: what I was saying. I was saying, if you knew 1479 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 1: all the ways to get yeah, yeah, right, and that 1480 01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,280 Speaker 1: is where the label and music, that's where they're all right, 1481 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 1: So get someone. We can get you hot. We got 1482 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,800 Speaker 1: the plugs to get you hot. We could put the 1483 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 1: dollars behind, all right. So a couple of things I 1484 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: want to speak about. Then I'm out. Um. I find 1485 01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: it interesting right that that Joe was in that position. 1486 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 1: But I know, I know he's damaged. I know he's hurt. 1487 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 1: People left him. You know, he's still kicking now he's 1488 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: a warrior, but he's he's hurts. He's going through a 1489 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 1: lot that he doesn't have. Charlemagne doesn't have none of 1490 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 1: the allies that he had. He's pigeonholed the brand to 1491 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 1: a place where I don't want to do interviews, so 1492 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I put it all on my back. But he didn't 1493 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 1: have in mind that the two guys. Now, if it 1494 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: was him and his guys, oh yeah, we don't want 1495 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: to do interviews. We can go on tour just us 1496 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,760 Speaker 1: three and sell it out everywhere. Right. They did that 1497 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: a couple of times. But and deals were coming in 1498 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 1: with that team. You know, I think if new deal 1499 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 1: started to come in, he'll feel better. But he's clearly 1500 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 1: dealing with he's clearly dealing with a level of frustration 1501 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 1: with the game. See the gift and the curse. He 1502 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,679 Speaker 1: gave him some money, but he took a lot from 1503 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 1: him to get that money. That's why you know. You 1504 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,160 Speaker 1: ever hear old person say, be careful what you pray for. 1505 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people I know they pray to get rich. 1506 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,479 Speaker 1: Oh man, I gotta please Lord. I don't pray to 1507 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 1: get rich. I pray for the hustle to get rich. 1508 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 1: You gotta be unique in your communication. You know. So 1509 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people play to pray to get rich 1510 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 1: Lord to play. Oh Lord, I pray to get rich 1511 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,560 Speaker 1: Lord this thing. You know, they have a rick or 1512 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 1: somebody you know, maybe they one of their loved ones 1513 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 1: have a rick with with wal marta summing die. So 1514 01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,920 Speaker 1: you got your wish, but look how you received it, 1515 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 1: you know. And so he's a lot's been tooking from 1516 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Joe Button an extreme amount of pain. It's involved with 1517 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: the way he's viewing this game at this point. But 1518 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: I still don't think that excuse that doesn't excuse the 1519 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,760 Speaker 1: position that you're in, and and the and the um 1520 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the gravity that comes with that. You're one of the 1521 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 1: biggest names in podcasts and you're a black man. We 1522 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,559 Speaker 1: talk about information never being passed down, passed passed around. 1523 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,760 Speaker 1: These people will literally be on a fifteenth deal trying 1524 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,759 Speaker 1: to sell a five minute spot to an ad company 1525 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 1: that won't a ten minute spot, and they only have 1526 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,400 Speaker 1: five left, that's how much they and they won't take 1527 01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,560 Speaker 1: the deal or pass it nowhere. Nothing like it's a 1528 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,840 Speaker 1: weird place. But the idea that you can think that 1529 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,200 Speaker 1: you will sitting down with an up and coming podcast, 1530 01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:34,240 Speaker 1: and he won't want any information about ads. Picture me 1531 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 1: sitting down with Diddy and not being able to speak 1532 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: to him about my brand building process, about any ads 1533 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 1: to the revote game or the You understand, we ain't 1534 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,280 Speaker 1: talking about running up on him in Walmart like we 1535 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,519 Speaker 1: had dinner. When we had dinner. Now, I feel as 1536 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 1: though game respect game. So you come to chop it up. 1537 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 1: I come to chop it up. We come to chop 1538 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: it up and eat a great meal and laugh and 1539 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 1: joke and talk deal points in red lines, you know. 1540 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,479 Speaker 1: But the idea that I come then and I can't 1541 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: even get any information out of you, or you don't 1542 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 1: want me to do anything that has anything to do 1543 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,800 Speaker 1: with me further in my process. Now again, I think 1544 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 1: the young man didn't have enough gain to understand. Yo, 1545 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:25,720 Speaker 1: you're dealing with somebody that's losing right now, not totality, 1546 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 1: but has lost some things. You create value in the 1547 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 1: life of somebody that's done lost some things, somebody to 1548 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,920 Speaker 1: get out the hospital. You make sure the bed is made, 1549 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 1: the house is quiet, that the food is made, the 1550 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 1: pillars of fluff, like to make things better for the 1551 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,719 Speaker 1: people that's in need. And then that's where you create 1552 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,599 Speaker 1: your value. But you don't come to me and say, yo, man, 1553 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,599 Speaker 1: I see you falling. Man, Hey, yo, give me your 1554 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 1: give me your plugs. Yo, give me all your plugs, man. 1555 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm thinking about doing the same thing. You 1556 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,080 Speaker 1: doing it out you though, but with your plugs though. 1557 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,679 Speaker 1: He's the people that's in the game when I'm dealing 1558 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 1: with enough information out the street and to know better 1559 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 1: than that, I come out the street knowing that, hey man, 1560 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,519 Speaker 1: if he don't fell off, but his phone rattling, I 1561 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 1: gotta let him get off a little bit to use 1562 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 1: that phone. I can't just go grab his phone and 1563 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,960 Speaker 1: sell my whole pack. Every day he gonna hold the phone, 1564 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 1: why would he give it to him? And just people 1565 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: are rather day people not get served, and to let 1566 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,600 Speaker 1: you sell them with your pack? Is that fair? I 1567 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I wouldn't care. All I know is I 1568 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,160 Speaker 1: need I need to get them selves. So let's try 1569 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,840 Speaker 1: to figure out how to negotiate that. I'm a businessman, 1570 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 1: and that's at the end of the day and the 1571 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 1: beginning of the day, you understand me. So I wanted 1572 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,479 Speaker 1: to talk about that because a lot of people they 1573 01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 1: come to me for that type thing like Yo, man, 1574 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I know it be about the up and coming creator 1575 01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,040 Speaker 1: sitting down with the established creator, a passing of the 1576 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 1: ball or passing us some information. Lone. I always talk 1577 01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 1: about access to information, access to audience. What do we 1578 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 1: do to further How do you promote it? What's going 1579 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,320 Speaker 1: on with it's CEO? How do we Because listen, boy, 1580 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna talk about it. It's too much. Guy. 1581 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 1: I can't give it out like that because I'll be 1582 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,760 Speaker 1: put playing myself against myself like Joe Button and I 1583 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 1: saw him make that mistake. I can't make that mistake. 1584 01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot I know. I won't speak about because 1585 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,120 Speaker 1: me knowing that keeps me ahead just a little bit. 1586 01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,200 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I gotta, I gotta. 1587 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,120 Speaker 1: I gotta secure the financial freedom of my family and 1588 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 1: my loved ones for the future. That's what this is about. 1589 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,920 Speaker 1: Then after that we can talk about building everything else, 1590 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 1: but the number one priority. It's not even me. It's 1591 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 1: bigger than me, you know. And until you got something 1592 01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 1: like that you're fighting for, you will never feel my pain. 1593 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,400 Speaker 1: You know. I'm a fresh shout at the hospital, so 1594 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 1: still trained to get back to normal um and get 1595 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,720 Speaker 1: back comfortable partners. Shit. So we'll talk about the wag 1596 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 1: one hunter going on me not as worth a game, 1597 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,640 Speaker 1: and then we'll get out of here. Let's listen to 1598 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,720 Speaker 1: what they said a little bit and then bring back 1599 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:26,800 Speaker 1: my thoughts on it rap videos. Niggas moving, niggas is moving, 1600 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,960 Speaker 1: nigga Okay. So to put in context, they're talking about 1601 01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,280 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation in regards to street do 1602 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: versus not street dude. What are what are the rules 1603 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,559 Speaker 1: of the said? What are the rules of people that's 1604 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,760 Speaker 1: involved with the game. Do you necessarily have to be 1605 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,599 Speaker 1: a street dude to be a gang member? A lot 1606 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: of people are saying no, because CEOs a game, especially 1607 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,280 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. You know, CEOs a gang members, 1608 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different people a game members. So a 1609 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of people say no, that's not necessary. Um, so 1610 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 1: that's the conversation that they having. Let's go back supposed 1611 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 1: to be there, nigga listen, no no, no, no, because 1612 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 1: the set wait wait wait, wait, hold because the set 1613 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 1: is broken up a different ship. The set is broken up. 1614 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,080 Speaker 1: Hold on you got niggas that hold on hold on 1615 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 1: you because we ain't had set wait wait wait, wait 1616 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 1: they put the work. Listen, listen, they all list set together, 1617 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 1: we all listen, listen, everybody. Don't whole body doing. We 1618 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: had corners there, we didn't have set, so we huld 1619 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,040 Speaker 1: on corners. So it might be a mixture. It might 1620 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 1: have been. Yeah, it might have been niggas who out 1621 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,519 Speaker 1: there who was athletes. It might have been a niggas 1622 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,400 Speaker 1: out there, hold on. It might have been niggas out 1623 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,599 Speaker 1: there who was hustless. It might have been niggas out 1624 01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,799 Speaker 1: there who was shoot us. It might have been niggas 1625 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,760 Speaker 1: out there that was robbers. And we all from the 1626 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 1: same pulled up and said, the niggas on the next 1627 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 1: block said they're gonna pull up and get out on 1628 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,680 Speaker 1: you niggas. What did we tell the athletes to do? Oh, 1629 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 1: they already knew that what he's saying. But everybody else 1630 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:59,439 Speaker 1: was subject right, right, right, they're not involved. Right, you 1631 01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,680 Speaker 1: don't even know nigga see that type of ship, right right, 1632 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: because they the athletes, they didn't go to school niga. 1633 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 1: Of course from the I'm talking about, Okay, my origins, 1634 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,919 Speaker 1: this is the problem. I got what you selected. Politicking 1635 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:18,639 Speaker 1: street niggas. Everybody want to talk about this dead, anybody 1636 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,560 Speaker 1: put in responsibility on the motherfucker's streets for even allowing 1637 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,040 Speaker 1: that to be on the block line, No, no, for real, bro, 1638 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,880 Speaker 1: we all spend on all this getting them over here. Right, 1639 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:35,160 Speaker 1: Does anybody motherfucking talk about the responsibility bro other in streets? 1640 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,839 Speaker 1: And let me go a little deeper, right, does anybody 1641 01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 1: fucking talk about who's the so called street nigga recording 1642 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 1: the nigga dropping the bag and turning in the tape? 1643 01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 1: Does anybody talk about niggas is on the phone talk 1644 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 1: about what this man gave up for this and this 1645 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,400 Speaker 1: and not to do this and this and not to 1646 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,679 Speaker 1: wear them out? Forbid, boys, it's grabbed implementing him because 1647 01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 1: of what these street niggas on the motherfucking phone talking about. 1648 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:03,719 Speaker 1: Doing anybody the whole any responsibility to the street niggas? 1649 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 1: Fire laden every motherfucking cold. We was talking, We know 1650 01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 1: what he did. Oh hey, and you know I'm clearing 1651 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,719 Speaker 1: my message. Just blame on both sides. But to exempt 1652 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 1: six nine in any way is a mistake. Nah, you're 1653 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,600 Speaker 1: trying to give a nigga. You're trying to give a 1654 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 1: nigga pass for telling Oh no, no, you try to 1655 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: give a nigga pass. What about they telling? Listen, come on, man, 1656 01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,000 Speaker 1: but they down for they telling? What about the telling? 1657 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,920 Speaker 1: They talked through the phone? They down? So we gotta call. 1658 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: Plenty of niggas on the phone. Question. Plenty of niggas 1659 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 1: talk on the phone. It's what you do get talking 1660 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 1: to the hold on, give your kill. Listen, shit, if 1661 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,679 Speaker 1: I take a square niggas car, ain't go robber store 1662 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,519 Speaker 1: and come back. And they got the plates and they 1663 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:00,840 Speaker 1: knock on this door and say, hey, man, your car 1664 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,599 Speaker 1: was using commission to Robbie on this day. That man 1665 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: is not snitching. You're gonna say, what wag one hundred 1666 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 1: and one half my car? Let me ask you a question. 1667 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have took this something here I wrote, because listen, 1668 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,599 Speaker 1: I don't rolle be dude, dude, do you manage Chucky? 1669 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,599 Speaker 1: Do you manage him? Who was Chucky? Name is six 1670 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,720 Speaker 1: nine specky. I ain't gonna do none of that. Do 1671 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,799 Speaker 1: you manage Do you manage six? It can't be managed? 1672 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,120 Speaker 1: Is you his manager? No? I do business with him? 1673 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 1: Hold so you may manage? Do you make paper? Let 1674 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: me just say this, turtle? What is a ninja turtle? 1675 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,680 Speaker 1: Splinter Master Splinter was a gangster nigga. Oh so now 1676 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: you just you just we're talking about No, we're talking 1677 01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 1: about about the cartoon right, you putting the rat on 1678 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,519 Speaker 1: the hierarchy. We talk about the cartoonson. No no, no, no, 1679 01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,639 Speaker 1: no no no no, we're hold on. When you're talking 1680 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,519 Speaker 1: about six nine, you're talking about the Ninja Turtles, You nina, 1681 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 1: you're telling the much better than call the dogs and 1682 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,240 Speaker 1: the motherfucking gutter down there. Come on, we grew up 1683 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,280 Speaker 1: on the same cartoons, nigga. Don't get me to talk 1684 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,679 Speaker 1: about the sleep that was old that was later on. Okay, 1685 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see it switches up on these niggas. 1686 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I know. Switching nothing got selling niggas on to get 1687 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,760 Speaker 1: your fun out of here. Silly isn't And we came 1688 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 1: dol wait, come don we don't we got you know 1689 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 1: why y'all came here. You know why y'all came here 1690 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,800 Speaker 1: at that norse on to follow sip war instructures. I 1691 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:38,280 Speaker 1: told you come here. No, no, nigga, know what happened? 1692 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Niggas talking about we want to hold you said we 1693 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:50,759 Speaker 1: had nigga twenty one twenty one. You niggas you anyway 1694 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,719 Speaker 1: in a minute, we pulled anywhere, but anyway in America. 1695 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: Back what I'm saying, we're not donna know, We're not 1696 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna get on telling man you ain't made money? Was 1697 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:04,640 Speaker 1: six nine? Definitely you was paid. You was paid to 1698 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 1: step out. Let me say this, Whack one hundred, they see, 1699 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,040 Speaker 1: this is why they need somebody like me to sit 1700 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,559 Speaker 1: in front of Whack one hundred. You know, because Whack 1701 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 1: one hundred has his ten thousand hours in on this topic. 1702 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 1: He sits on clubhouse and goals topic in topic out 1703 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,240 Speaker 1: examined it. So any little slip up or mistake or word, 1704 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't say it wrong. They didn't call him on clubhouse. 1705 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,599 Speaker 1: So when he come on these platforms, you ain't catching 1706 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 1: him no more. He witted. Now, don't get Whack one 1707 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,680 Speaker 1: hundred confused. Now you understand he's a witted dude. He 1708 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,479 Speaker 1: ain't no dummy. So when he's in that clubhouse, that's training. 1709 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,360 Speaker 1: So when what y'all bringing to him, it's the same questions, 1710 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,799 Speaker 1: you know, respectfully, to wallow on them. They just bringing 1711 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 1: what the streets is saying, which is the real deal. 1712 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 1: The thing about the streets they don't tune in the 1713 01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,760 Speaker 1: Clubhouse and I don't neither, but I noticed to be 1714 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:02,000 Speaker 1: the case because I mean, I'm a part of the 1715 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 1: YouTube world right my podcast, A lot of my videos 1716 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,920 Speaker 1: go through that cycle with some of that shit. Togo 1717 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,479 Speaker 1: Whack one hundred on Clubhouse said this, and a lot 1718 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: of my videos go through that same tunnel. So I'm 1719 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,960 Speaker 1: aware that it's a lot going on on Clubhouse with him. 1720 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,639 Speaker 1: So with that being said, he's well versed on the topic. 1721 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,320 Speaker 1: He's well versed on will I separate street from being there? 1722 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's he got all let down, pack, 1723 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,479 Speaker 1: all less aced, So you're gonna have to come totally 1724 01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,599 Speaker 1: different to create something new for him to talk about 1725 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,880 Speaker 1: in regards town, ain't nobody asked me that ship and 1726 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 1: get a fresh idea because everything he's saying here is 1727 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: regurgitated because he's been asked everything in the world on Clubhouse. 1728 01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 1: First of all, hold on, I'm gone you let me 1729 01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 1: tell you this shit. B No, no, no, no, say 1730 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,559 Speaker 1: nothing about people. It's real shit. Leave my brother name 1731 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,000 Speaker 1: about it. Listen, No, I ain't talking about no motherfucking 1732 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 1: t I'm talking about Pete the block niggast, my brother 1733 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,680 Speaker 1: named about it is. Listen, nigga, man, this is what 1734 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell y'all. Bro street business is street business. 1735 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,760 Speaker 1: My parental business, my parental business. My business in the 1736 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,560 Speaker 1: building is my business in the buildings. Why I see it. 1737 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't bring the streets to my parental business. I 1738 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 1: don't bring the streets to the business in the building, right, 1739 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,599 Speaker 1: I don't let the streets dictate, right, who I do business? 1740 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:31,439 Speaker 1: Where if I did? I want to sign Blue Face. 1741 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,920 Speaker 1: Listen to a bunch of dumb ass again, these are 1742 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,400 Speaker 1: clubhouse conversations right here. Fuckers still fifteen in the head. 1743 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy because niggas glorified death Row in death Row 1744 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 1: was built off. But I'm just crip entertainers. Wait, wait, 1745 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 1: in the business of what I'm saying, I ain't what 1746 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everybody was on, Oh why what you do here? 1747 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 1: Why you ain't sign one of the homies? Your power 1748 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 1: signed all these bloods and book. Listen to my nigga, 1749 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,479 Speaker 1: because at that time the script was out hustling everybody. 1750 01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,120 Speaker 1: He was what I needed. You know what I'm saying. 1751 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 1: He was what I desired, right, so I could put 1752 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: it on. But listen, listen, and it still ain't a 1753 01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:16,040 Speaker 1: blood since I signed Blue Faces Right to surpass that situation. 1754 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,640 Speaker 1: So I was obviously I was right for conducting my 1755 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:20,680 Speaker 1: business in the building where I was gonna conducted right 1756 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,640 Speaker 1: I could. I will never allow motherfucking the streets bro 1757 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 1: right who ain't figuring out how to get off their 1758 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,840 Speaker 1: mama couch get off the block to tell me how 1759 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,000 Speaker 1: to conduct business in the building the day, never busing, 1760 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna happen like I give it to you. 1761 01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,240 Speaker 1: A hell of a business man, we give you that. 1762 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,160 Speaker 1: We don't act like it was always nigga. You was 1763 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 1: eating motherfucking cards and driving sho night around in the car. 1764 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 1: You was mother you was a car service. I'm gonna 1765 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,160 Speaker 1: see if I can find a party talked about meeting 1766 01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:50,479 Speaker 1: me or hold them another thing, because the dumb ship 1767 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 1: we're here to tell you to stop check me and 1768 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,719 Speaker 1: bird Man got for each other. We will never check 1769 01:44:55,800 --> 01:45:03,719 Speaker 1: each other. Women women, women, woman. It's one of the niggas. 1770 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:21,639 Speaker 1: He's this new called this, that's why, and I'm gonna 1771 01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:25,560 Speaker 1: say this, and I'm all right. So now this is 1772 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,720 Speaker 1: the part where he's uh, this is the part where 1773 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:29,800 Speaker 1: he talked about Meek Meal. I want to talk about 1774 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 1: Meek a little bit because Um Meek also had an 1775 01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:34,600 Speaker 1: interview with them, was a pretty dope interview. I like 1776 01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,679 Speaker 1: his vibe, I like I like what he'd be saying, 1777 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 1: what he's standing for. You know, I want to pick 1778 01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 1: his brain a little bit, Meek, when you see this 1779 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:44,000 Speaker 1: reach out, let's get that done. Um. But you know, 1780 01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,639 Speaker 1: I think when when when two certain people talk, it's 1781 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 1: just it'd be a hell of a thing. It's a 1782 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of information involved, um, and he can help a 1783 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of people. You know. I always tell y'all, and 1784 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,240 Speaker 1: you hear these big podcasters now try to take off 1785 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 1: of what I say, But I always tell tell y'all 1786 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 1: that ninety nine percent of the people that does an 1787 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,719 Speaker 1: interview right now, when they get somebody one of our greats, 1788 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:12,720 Speaker 1: jay Z, did it cash Money, Birdman, Masterpe, whether that 1789 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,240 Speaker 1: be Charlemagne, Dame Dad, Steve Stout, Todd Mosca, is anyone 1790 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,080 Speaker 1: that's in a position when they get them, you know 1791 01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,519 Speaker 1: what they ask them, what would you say to someone 1792 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,840 Speaker 1: that's trying to get on You're dealing with you dealing 1793 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:30,120 Speaker 1: with real life particulars with these boys, and that's how 1794 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 1: you can come up with because y'all don't share the space. 1795 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,000 Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand what needs to be understood to ask 1796 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,760 Speaker 1: what needs to be known, you have no post to 1797 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,080 Speaker 1: what the information is currently at. So they don't know 1798 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,880 Speaker 1: what to do, you know. And so it's important that 1799 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,759 Speaker 1: those worlds meet each other in the middle in hopes 1800 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,240 Speaker 1: of bringing great content out of it, you know what 1801 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they asked him about meet me a 1802 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 1: whack one hundred to see, you know, if they can 1803 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:02,200 Speaker 1: squash the beef. Let's see what happens. Let me say this, Philly. 1804 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,800 Speaker 1: You come to me, and I'm gonna say this. Shout it. 1805 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. Keep the Muslims out of this ship, 1806 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,599 Speaker 1: right man? Stop? Take your brothers out of this shop. 1807 01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,639 Speaker 1: I didn't bring them back to your man, did keep 1808 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:20,639 Speaker 1: keep outen this out? He the same today. They ain't 1809 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 1: none of your business. No checked, it ain't check nobody. Man, 1810 01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 1: Stop this nigga fucking mean he ain't checking the fucking body. 1811 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,000 Speaker 1: Fuck you. You didn't say it. That dumb shit, fucking 1812 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 1: camera talking about you something. Gilly. A nigga pull up 1813 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,360 Speaker 1: with his team and you with your team and they 1814 01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 1: jump out how I go gilly keep you posted to 1815 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:48,200 Speaker 1: go platinum? I will say that, but what the what 1816 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:49,960 Speaker 1: the fun was you in that business for it? What 1817 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,000 Speaker 1: you mean? Who put you in that business? But you 1818 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 1: he put He said everything you're gonna do to this 1819 01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,880 Speaker 1: nig What the fuck do you? You gotta do? What 1820 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:04,200 Speaker 1: you got this some wall? No no, no, no, no, 1821 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:05,519 Speaker 1: no no no, what you got it? Do? No? What 1822 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:10,840 Speaker 1: you the ship? No, it's not why you don't like 1823 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 1: what you're speaking on it? Still doing everything in the 1824 01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,120 Speaker 1: game you speaking was fuck on it? But why do 1825 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 1: you throwing the world when he was gonna do? What 1826 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,000 Speaker 1: made you the authority? Or what the fuck about? Your artists? 1827 01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:30,120 Speaker 1: Didn't even't want to me? Can't you manage? Manage his? 1828 01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 1: Manage it? That's why you was he talking about your artists? 1829 01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 1: I can send in business, but nobody managed. I don't 1830 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 1: know who. How much money you make, how much money 1831 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,759 Speaker 1: you make it? He could be managed by nigga because 1832 01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 1: he's real witty about what. You make a decision and 1833 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 1: let us attorney go to paper. If you say we 1834 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 1: have been nobody, if you say we do business, that 1835 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 1: means you manage you. No, it don't. Did you set 1836 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 1: up any shows. Can't send you a deal. You send 1837 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,599 Speaker 1: me deals, but can't do I manage you? He talking 1838 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,560 Speaker 1: about when I see at clubhouse gas wag sharp on 1839 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,600 Speaker 1: his feet. Different, it's a little different. Did you did 1840 01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,920 Speaker 1: you do all? Listen you suspect too, but I ain't 1841 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna speak one never suspect NI suspects smetter what niggas? 1842 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:12,920 Speaker 1: He was supposed to die thirty two? How you get 1843 01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,120 Speaker 1: out in twenty He was supposed to be dirty too. 1844 01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:24,760 Speaker 1: One thing that never mother? Your name was not your 1845 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 1: fucking mother. Listen, listen, different game you made over a 1846 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,080 Speaker 1: million dollars because the way you go hard and the 1847 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:31,720 Speaker 1: way you're trying to put some money on niggas jacking 1848 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:33,960 Speaker 1: about him can go hard. I haven't went hard. You 1849 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 1: go hard, gold on. They went hard. They said he 1850 01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:42,560 Speaker 1: was this, he was daddy was this? Because you manage it. 1851 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,920 Speaker 1: I ain't want to say you to manage it? If 1852 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,840 Speaker 1: it just kept it real, just inst I hide because 1853 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 1: I could have hid and did all the bit. Wait wait, 1854 01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 1: I could have hid and did all the business. Y 1855 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,120 Speaker 1: would have never known. Right, keep it real. I'm operating 1856 01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 1: through the turkeys in the emails and wires nobody would 1857 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,920 Speaker 1: have never known. I don't. That's whole ship. I don't. 1858 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 1: Nigga do what I'm gonna do. Nigga, actually be a question. 1859 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing, Nigga. I'm gonna stand on it. 1860 01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,160 Speaker 1: Everybody do what they're gonna do. Everybody doing something next 1861 01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:13,160 Speaker 1: motherfucker may not, but I definitely does matter. Nig You 1862 01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:14,920 Speaker 1: be part of me. But I got to you know, 1863 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,360 Speaker 1: I didn't this is what it's all about. Then we're 1864 01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 1: here because it's not what it's all about. That's just 1865 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,680 Speaker 1: a lane that I created for myself. But but but 1866 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,920 Speaker 1: for you, for you supposed to be an og is 1867 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:32,280 Speaker 1: your og? No no, no, no, no no no, I'm 1868 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:36,799 Speaker 1: not a Listen, let me tell you something, paro og. 1869 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,560 Speaker 1: None of that ship has no ranking and my household 1870 01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 1: or my business in the building. Let me just ask 1871 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,320 Speaker 1: you a question. And you're always going through with the 1872 01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:52,519 Speaker 1: young niggas. What who listen, young nigga, I called you 1873 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 1: about the twenty one savvy shit about you had to talk. 1874 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,080 Speaker 1: You went to fuck? Why why do you try to 1875 01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 1: take off on a young nigga here you're hearing heard it. 1876 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 1: He didn't get you, acting like he got you say that. 1877 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,439 Speaker 1: That's gonna let me know what you were doing in 1878 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,800 Speaker 1: the penitentiary. Now, what the fuck you nigga call your 1879 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,600 Speaker 1: lame on the kid? Go you can be going on 1880 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,559 Speaker 1: the mall. Nigga, how go fuck out of here? Answer 1881 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,800 Speaker 1: the question? But you like running, nigga, I asked you 1882 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:22,479 Speaker 1: a questions. Fucking running it's gonna be, nigga. So why 1883 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,080 Speaker 1: so why you got a problem with me? Because you're 1884 01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:31,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be lame ship in a lane the name man, 1885 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:37,559 Speaker 1: no lame bitch, weird any of them words? My nigga, 1886 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: you didn't even know where the lame was. Explain to me. No, no, no, no, 1887 01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,840 Speaker 1: I did that because I fucked with twenty one and y'all, 1888 01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:50,280 Speaker 1: even you, even you were surprised that I didn't flip immediately. 1889 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,280 Speaker 1: But because I fucked with him, right, I didn't really 1890 01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,880 Speaker 1: believe that I heard what I heard right, because it 1891 01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,680 Speaker 1: was him. I did that, and that was my way 1892 01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,439 Speaker 1: of trying to let it go. But you know, like 1893 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,760 Speaker 1: I know, sometimes you give a niggas they try to 1894 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,400 Speaker 1: take a mile, they take you accountage for weakness. I 1895 01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,840 Speaker 1: don't think savors don't think that was that. I don't 1896 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 1: think that was that, but we'll we'll get out fit. Man. 1897 01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,880 Speaker 1: I want to think everybody that listen to this up 1898 01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,960 Speaker 1: there podcast, especially up to this point, that mean made 1899 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 1: it to the end. Hit subscribe, hit like his share, 1900 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:26,920 Speaker 1: get some merch um again. To support this podcast, you 1901 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:31,800 Speaker 1: have to subscribe to Patreon. That's the only way that 1902 01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 1: we are getting support from the podcast. 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