Speaker 1: Are you leave then? I you want your way back home?
Speaker 1: Either way, we want to be there. Doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: much baggage you claim and give us time and a
Speaker 1: terminol and gay. We want to send you off inside.
Speaker 1: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 1: Malborn?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do your need you ride? Ride? Do you need with
Speaker 2: Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris.
Speaker 1: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgareth.
Speaker 2: Hello, Karen.
Speaker 1: Hello, Happy February, Chris.
Speaker 2: Oh, it is February, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's a brand new month.
Speaker 2: Well, and a month where someone has a birthday just
Speaker 2: around the corner.
Speaker 1: Whose birthday is it? Gee?
Speaker 2: Why it's me?
Speaker 1: Oh it's you?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: What day is your birthday?
Speaker 2: My day birth?
Speaker 1: This is the fifth fab five.
Speaker 2: Fab five fab five Freddy. That's what they used to
Speaker 2: call me in my rap days.
Speaker 1: I better put that right into my calendar. I feel
Speaker 1: ashamed it wasn't in there before.
Speaker 2: I Karen, I don't know your birthday. I am very
Speaker 2: bad at that my sister makes me a calendar yep,
Speaker 2: specifically with all the family. And I know that's why
Speaker 2: I get it every year because I've I've forgotten so
Speaker 2: many birthdays and been a bad uncle on birthdays so
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 1: I during Facebook era, I started to tell myself I
Speaker 1: don't care about birthdays, just to have a stance right,
Speaker 1: so that I didn't have to be so involved the
Speaker 1: way people have gone birthday crazy Yep since the advent.
Speaker 1: I would say Facebook and posting where it's like, now
Speaker 1: it's my birthday week, now it's my birthday month. I
Speaker 1: just don't relate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people's thirst for hearing happy birthday it
Speaker 2: was fueled. The thirst was fueled by the way that's
Speaker 2: what I just said, by getting four to five hundred
Speaker 2: people saying it and putting a little glittery you know,
Speaker 2: confetti animated. Yeah, it's people are like, well that and
Speaker 2: it does make you feel good. And I really have
Speaker 2: I honestly don't care about birthdays. I've never really wanted
Speaker 2: to have parties. But on those days where it was
Speaker 2: the middle of the winter and I didn't hear anything
Speaker 2: from my family and it was my birthday, I of
Speaker 2: course felt bad, and I just pretended I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, what choice do we have when we feel bad?
Speaker 1: But to pretend, or to the nineties version of it is,
Speaker 1: don't just pretend you don't feel bad, pretend you don't
Speaker 1: care at all about the general topic. That was my solution.
Speaker 1: Birthdays don't matter to me. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Of course they do, but that was it was like
Speaker 1: a great stance where it's like, well, then I don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about your birthday, and then you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about my birthday.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: My personality is I don't care about birthdays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm afraid that I sort of do.
Speaker 1: I clearly do.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I got that from my mom did
Speaker 2: not acknowledge her own birthday because she didn't want anyone
Speaker 2: to know how old she was. Yeah, and never would ever.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how old she was my whole childhood.
Speaker 1: Right. That was a very it was a boomer lady
Speaker 1: thing to be mysterious. And they hadn't had all the
Speaker 1: activism behind who they were and what they got to be.
Speaker 1: They got none of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're totally right. Yeah, she thought every year she
Speaker 2: was less of a person. That's terrible. A man, it's horrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we just we're just here to cheer you up. People.
Speaker 1: Guys, remember when it's like my mom, who is from
Speaker 1: I think basically the same generation, probably within five years
Speaker 1: of your mom or so. She was obsessed with dressing
Speaker 1: up to go on an airplane. Like there was a
Speaker 1: shit where I was like, ma'am, that is straight up
Speaker 1: from dinosaur times. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely wearing sweatpants. I will be comfortable on Southwest.
Speaker 1: I won't wear a pillbox hat. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. There's an older woman that every day
Speaker 2: buys her one day of groceries at Lasen's down the
Speaker 2: street from my house, and I see her all the time,
Speaker 2: and she dresses up. She's probably in her late seventies,
Speaker 2: maybe eighty, but she dresses to the nines with like glittering.
Speaker 2: Everything she has has either gold like I guess le may,
Speaker 2: I don't know, woven into a sweater or what she's
Speaker 2: got sparkles everywhere. She wears jewelry. Her hair is perfectly
Speaker 2: beehived up. She is straight out of a fireside cartoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah she is. She talks to everyone. And at first
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, brother, don't get cornered by that
Speaker 2: lady and I and because she's like, oh, well, don't
Speaker 2: you just look darling today and she wants to talk
Speaker 2: to everyone. But that recently what I realized. Like the
Speaker 2: other day, she was in the parking lot putting her
Speaker 2: groceries in and this guy who I've seen go into
Speaker 2: the store or he's just trying to be scary. He
Speaker 2: has an angry look on his face, all face tattoos,
Speaker 2: and he's gone in there with a backpack, and the
Speaker 2: security guard is just kind of like, is it worth
Speaker 2: it to follow this guy around? He's really intimidating. And
Speaker 2: then he buys just a juice or something, and everyone
Speaker 2: knows it's this weird thing. Everyone knows he puts stuff
Speaker 2: in his backpack, but everyone's scared of him. The other day,
Speaker 2: she was getting in her car. He went straight towards her.
Speaker 2: I happened to be walking in the parking lot, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what I think I'm gonna do, but
Speaker 2: I stopped when he came up to her, and she
Speaker 2: immediately goes, your face is just so beautiful. Look at
Speaker 2: all that artwork. It is what a way to express yourself.
Speaker 2: I wish I could do that, but I have all
Speaker 2: these wrinkles. And he just started smiling. And then I
Speaker 2: was just standing there and she was like, are you
Speaker 2: guys friends? I'm like, uh, I go not yet. And
Speaker 2: then he just stood there a while and she asked
Speaker 2: him some questions and he was really sweet to her.
Speaker 2: I don't think any old lady that like a grandma
Speaker 2: type figure, had ever been this sweet to this guy.
Speaker 1: I bet no one's been sweet to that guy.
Speaker 2: That's yeah it and it was her first instinct. She
Speaker 2: was not scared and like, oh, I know what I'll
Speaker 2: do here. That's just how this lady is. And she
Speaker 2: is that way with everyone.
Speaker 1: She's a zen master. She's a zen master because that
Speaker 1: is like she's interacting with her world the way she
Speaker 1: wants the world to be. She's not reacting like, oh
Speaker 1: I am I am in danger, I am in fear.
Speaker 1: She's like, here's how I see you, and I see
Speaker 1: you beautifully, which is the ultimate diffuser of anything.
Speaker 2: And she was not scared at all. She's a badass.
Speaker 1: Why would she be scared. I'm sure she's fucking murdered
Speaker 1: a husband and buried him. Under the porch.
Speaker 2: That's what I keep thinking. The trail of blood behind
Speaker 2: this delight woman.
Speaker 1: Has handled business.
Speaker 2: Cia secret ops. They have put her in places we
Speaker 2: don't even know on a.
Speaker 1: Map, green brace.
Speaker 2: She has slit so many throat. I just really like hers,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and one the other the day just
Speaker 2: I see her all the time. I see her as
Speaker 2: much as I used to see Henry Rollins at the
Speaker 2: Santa Monica Teredo Joe's Daily.
Speaker 1: Two great stars here in Los Angeles, Henry Rollins and
Speaker 1: this lady.
Speaker 2: I love this lady. She but she just asked me
Speaker 2: to She's like, I can never open these plastic bags.
Speaker 2: I can never find the opening. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: luckily for you, I have these clammy fingers and I
Speaker 2: just kind of twisted it until it She's like, I've
Speaker 2: never seen that trick. Aren't you just delightful? And I
Speaker 2: was in a good mood all day?
Speaker 1: Yes, you got a grammar treatment, like yeah, isn't that
Speaker 1: actually what the world needs right now is when you
Speaker 1: go out into what you believed to be a hostile world,
Speaker 1: Like what did I just put on her that she
Speaker 1: killed her husband? That never fucking happened. She goes into
Speaker 1: the world and she's like, what a wonderful place to be,
Speaker 1: what an exciting What do you have to offer? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm here to appreciate it, like a grandma going to
Speaker 1: watch you tap dance in second grade. Yes, everything you
Speaker 1: do is great, and she's going to tell you about it.
Speaker 2: Yep. I want her at my shows. I got to
Speaker 2: introduce myself to her and just just say, hey, I
Speaker 2: notice how you are with everyone. Yeah, and I know
Speaker 2: you're not a murderer. I'll say that to her.
Speaker 1: Don don't bring that up.
Speaker 2: No, I just I know why you said that and
Speaker 2: why I immediately jumped on board, because I think if
Speaker 2: someone is that sweet, and someone is that has such
Speaker 2: a winning attitude on a daily basis, you have to
Speaker 2: assume there's a dark side or that she's said that's
Speaker 2: what I put on people that.
Speaker 1: Or that she just has seen some shit Like whether
Speaker 1: it's dark or whatever, she has lived a full, serious
Speaker 1: life that is taught or what's important. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: you get lessons like that, they're hard, and they usually
Speaker 1: it's through loss, It's through relationships ending in some way
Speaker 1: that you can't control, or.
Speaker 2: The visitation of three Christmas ghosts.
Speaker 1: It's she had some change shaken at her and she
Speaker 1: learned her fucking lesson and she was a nicer accountant
Speaker 1: because of it.
Speaker 2: I really, yeah, there's something happened to where she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be great every day. I there aren't
Speaker 2: a lot of people like that, and I don't see
Speaker 2: a lot in my neighborhood. It's like a hip young person.
Speaker 2: Everyone's in a band, you know. I don't know where
Speaker 2: she lives or if she's lived in my neighborhood her
Speaker 2: whole life, but she is just one of the most
Speaker 2: impressive people. I want to be more like her.
Speaker 1: And I think I told you this story about when
Speaker 1: I lived in New York and I go down to
Speaker 1: the badega, and I really loved the idea that there
Speaker 1: was a bodega like literally every fifteen feet in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood I lived in. Like I lived in the middle
Speaker 1: of a block and there was a daga on each end.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, so just whenever I want gummy
Speaker 1: bears and cigarettes and you know whatever, like anything a
Speaker 1: Perier architectural Digest magazine. I mean, like just like anything
Speaker 1: you could want, it's right there the store. Is overfilled
Speaker 1: with wonderful items. And so I one weekend morning, I
Speaker 1: walked down to a different bodega because they had breakfast sandwiches,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of early in the morning, and
Speaker 1: I walked in and there was an old, old lady
Speaker 1: in there, and I immediately was like, this lady is
Speaker 1: like she's probably in her early nineties, and she lives
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, like we're in we were in Hell's kitchen,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where does she live? Why is she
Speaker 1: here by herself? Why is no one with her? Why
Speaker 1: didn't anybody? And I'm going through this apps immediate panic,
Speaker 1: and I'm walking like I go to get juice or
Speaker 1: whatever stupid thing and go get in line. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like telling this myself, this story about this lady's
Speaker 1: basically living in an apartment by herself, talking to the wall,
Speaker 1: and I was getting so upset and so whatever, and
Speaker 1: the lady turns on it, looks at me and goes, honey,
Speaker 1: are you okay?
Speaker 2: Oh? Isn't that great?
Speaker 1: Because she was fully talking a guy that worked there.
Speaker 1: Clearly she probably lives in an apartment above it and
Speaker 1: like knows everyone in this neighborhood and is absolutely fine
Speaker 1: and large and in charge. And it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all these stories about like, you know, old people not
Speaker 1: being okay in the city, I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1: I think people old people that like grew up in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles proper, they're not scared to go to fucking lassons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've seen real shit happen.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the other thing about this lady. She can
Speaker 2: drop an F bomb in conversation. Oh yes, she just
Speaker 2: says fuck every other word. Was the woman you saw
Speaker 2: in Manhattan? Did she have long, black flowing sweater with
Speaker 2: gold woven into it? Be dazzled?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this lady's by coastal and she's going
Speaker 1: like spreading the magic in several cities.
Speaker 2: You're saying, yeah, she needs to take this shit to
Speaker 2: the middle of the country. I think they'll need this,
Speaker 2: and yeah.
Speaker 1: There a they need some like super positive, judgment free grandmas.
Speaker 1: Just like is that juriar fifteen? Oh my wow, brave
Speaker 1: of you to bring it into this subway.
Speaker 2: Keep it so clean.
Speaker 1: You must clean it day and night.
Speaker 2: You're a proud little boy, aren't You're You're a proud boy.
Speaker 1: And then he just starts crying.
Speaker 2: I never had you in my life.
Speaker 1: He cries, his tears dissolve the gun metal and everything
Speaker 1: is fine, Everything is cured because of her. Does lessons
Speaker 1: have a bulk section, like you could go and get
Speaker 1: Australian licorice nibs?
Speaker 2: Yes, this one does, but there's not a time. It's
Speaker 2: mostly like your granolas and salt free almonds and things
Speaker 2: like that. None of it is like, hey, you want
Speaker 2: some gummy worms, but a pound of a like there's
Speaker 2: no fun bulk. Oh, it's serious bulk for you know,
Speaker 2: for serious people, for having regularity.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Sorry what please repeat?
Speaker 1: I just said, Then it makes sense they call it bulk.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really, it wasn't great.
Speaker 2: Think are you kidding? Everyone knows what you mean. You
Speaker 2: immediately see a pair of troer trousers filling up and
Speaker 2: someone going upsy Daisy, too much oat, yeah, flax, Chris.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing we didn't get to visit on for
Speaker 1: very long. Our last episode was with Maggie Ferris. So
Speaker 1: delightful you knew her, I had never met her. Yes,
Speaker 1: what a great That thing went by so quickly. I
Speaker 1: was so excited.
Speaker 2: I was excited to I felt like a matchmaker.
Speaker 1: I just definitely a match but also I am what
Speaker 1: I could listen to her talk about driving that snowplow
Speaker 1: perhaps for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm always searching for as our comedian friends,
Speaker 2: to have be that deep in another interest that we've
Speaker 2: never talked about, and that was a gold mine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's a career, but it's also
Speaker 1: like she must have made the decision like this is
Speaker 1: going to be what I do, because then she had
Speaker 1: to get her special license. Anyway, my point is, in
Speaker 1: the pre of that episode, you started talking about going
Speaker 1: to singing lessons, and I just want to circle back
Speaker 1: on that, because after we were done, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: Chris actually fucking did the thing he was planning to do,
Speaker 1: And like, you did a thing that's actually really scary,
Speaker 1: like you wanted to do it and then you just
Speaker 1: did it. How would you like to explain to the
Speaker 1: audience how you actually executed the plan that you had?
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I uh, And That's what I'm doing
Speaker 2: on my birthday. I'm singing with my band herb Dogs
Speaker 2: again in a bar called the chair nine bar, which
Speaker 2: means it's on the Mountain, And that's why I wanted
Speaker 2: to brush up, because there's a couple songs I didn't
Speaker 2: I have trouble with. But yeah, I just was doing
Speaker 2: a show in Portland and my friend from college asked me, Hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to sing songs from old skate videos
Speaker 2: with us at this fundraiser in Washington? And I immediately
Speaker 2: said yes, And then immediately was like, what have I
Speaker 2: gotten myself into? All I've done is karaoke and all
Speaker 2: that's been is Billy Idol and Elvis Costello, Like what
Speaker 2: am I doing to myself? And so out of fear,
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to back out. And then when
Speaker 2: we did it, I realized how much fun it was
Speaker 2: to be on stage and be physical and walk around
Speaker 2: and yell and have my arms in the air. You know,
Speaker 2: me as a comic, I just stand there with my
Speaker 2: hand on the mic stand. I never moved my body. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought that's just how I am on stage, and
Speaker 2: so it was like I was being someone else and
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it a lot. But I'm
Speaker 2: realistic and when my voice is cracking on a song,
Speaker 2: I'm horrified by it. And I wanted this guy to
Speaker 2: show me, and I think he did show me a
Speaker 2: lot about breath control and and singing from the right place.
Speaker 2: But I went to his bands. They're playing at the Whiskey.
Speaker 2: I was making fun of one of the songs and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this sounds like a band that would play
Speaker 2: at the Whiskey A Go Go in the nineties. And
Speaker 2: then at the end of our meeting, I was like,
Speaker 2: are you in a band. He's like, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: playing at the Whiskey on the ninth, and I'm like, oh, it.
Speaker 1: Was an example, but oh you said it to him, yes.
Speaker 2: And his I know, yeah, the best thing, the best that's.
Speaker 1: Your psychic ability is coming out in the perfectly wrong way.
Speaker 2: I know. They're called Hot Crazy and I remember it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that band The Darkness, Yeah, that came out with that
Speaker 2: operatic thing. He sings like that or like Freddie Mercury
Speaker 2: and they are like a high octane, very gay metal band,
Speaker 2: and it is the best thing. I'm very excited to go.
Speaker 2: I'm going on the ninth. I just really like this
Speaker 2: guy and his voice was amazing. But when he was
Speaker 2: teaching me and he learned all the songs on piano,
Speaker 2: which was very impressive. I was like just the fact
Speaker 2: that he learned them on piano. I'm like, well, this
Speaker 2: guy's not a rocker in any way. Don't let the
Speaker 2: lung hair fool you. And he is all the way
Speaker 2: balls to the walls metal and it is amazing.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of exciting thing about musicians is they
Speaker 1: can kind of be all things and it's like they're
Speaker 1: about the music man, and that is what I love
Speaker 1: about them. It's kind of like the dedication is to
Speaker 1: the craft in general, whatever version of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think he's just playing role in this band.
Speaker 2: I think now when it comes down to it, he
Speaker 2: is a classically trained musician and could be a Broadway
Speaker 2: type singer if he wanted to, and probably has. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's what he's doing next week. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: just seeing this one gig of his. But he knew
Speaker 2: how to He was very good at illustrating how to
Speaker 2: position my mouth and make room in my jaw, what
Speaker 2: to do with my tongue, how to loosen up my neck.
Speaker 2: I was like, holding my neck so tight that there's
Speaker 2: veins and tightening my shoulders. I should be doing the opposite,
Speaker 2: and he just had me wiggling around loosely while singing,
Speaker 2: and it helped so much, just one hour long session
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his name is Carl and he's terrific.
Speaker 1: Well, Carl, thank you for helping Chris. So wait then
Speaker 1: you're going to do another? Is that the thing you're
Speaker 1: you're saying that, I yes, chair.
Speaker 2: I'm What I'm realizing now is I probably did not
Speaker 2: even get close answering your question, I am remotely not
Speaker 2: even near it. I'm not even near I am doing
Speaker 2: it again. My point is it is it looks like
Speaker 2: it's going to be a regular thing, so long as
Speaker 2: there's still a skateboard adjacent event where people will recognize
Speaker 2: these songs, because if we were just at somewhere like
Speaker 2: the Whiskey, it would be a bunch of covers of
Speaker 2: bands a lot of people haven't heard of that, yep.
Speaker 2: But in front of the right crowd, which is forty
Speaker 2: something skateboarders and there's a lot of them out there,
Speaker 2: it is an entire soundtrack of a childhood. Like the
Speaker 2: songs we're doing are from the beginning of skateboard videos
Speaker 2: coming into your homes in like the mid eighties up
Speaker 2: until I'd say skateboard videos songs from like early nine,
Speaker 2: like ninety two or three, and we picked the best ones.
Speaker 2: But that was such an important time. It was that
Speaker 2: was the innovation of the sport that those eighty five
Speaker 2: to ninety five is ware of skateboarding found itself. Now
Speaker 2: it's just I agree, I agree, yeah, it's it's just
Speaker 2: they're jumping off bigger things and it's getting more death defying.
Speaker 2: But all the tricks, the shape of the skateboard. Every
Speaker 2: year in that decade, you saw it advance to what
Speaker 2: it is today. A documentary about that would be interesting
Speaker 2: to me. And these these people that I want in
Speaker 2: the audience well.
Speaker 1: And a bunch of girls who weren't allowed to actually participate,
Speaker 1: but we're watching with a very close eye from the
Speaker 1: side or out the cafaleen.
Speaker 2: And that's why I get so excited now because those
Speaker 2: girls are skating and they are so good and it's
Speaker 2: happening now. So that's the innovation that's happening right now.
Speaker 2: Everyone is skateboarding. Oh my god, you know, retired mom's
Speaker 2: old farts like it is. It makes me so happy.
Speaker 2: It's such a positive thing. And I hung out with
Speaker 2: a bunch of skater like pals with my friend from
Speaker 2: Montana he was visiting. I went. We went to a schoolyard.
Speaker 2: Everyone's in their forties or at least thirties, and we
Speaker 2: there was twenty two of us skating and it was
Speaker 2: the nicest group of guys. I just met them and
Speaker 2: they all like hugged me. It was like a supportive group.
Speaker 2: I'm like, can I just travel around in this group
Speaker 2: of two dozen for the rest of my time here?
Speaker 2: This is You don't see that with comedy. There wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, it's the opposite. In comedy, it's the least chill, fucking,
Speaker 1: most irritating, neurotic. Generally men there are. It's literally the
Speaker 1: opposite vibe.
Speaker 2: Right, And so maybe that's why I love seeing it
Speaker 2: with skateboarding, because it's also generally men. But it's a
Speaker 2: different vibe and it's a different type of person. And
Speaker 2: I don't know why that is. I can't, I would
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this theory. My theory is,
Speaker 1: and I base it on my friend's little brothers, who
Speaker 1: are both really good skateboarders. I think one of them
Speaker 1: actually make have gotten sponsored at some point, and that
Speaker 1: was like in the mid nineties, or maybe early two thousands,
Speaker 1: But I was talking to him one time because I'm like,
Speaker 1: why are all skateboarders like this, Like you're all super nice,
Speaker 1: Like I never feel that weird, like oh they're gonna
Speaker 1: say something mean or there's gonna be some weird boy
Speaker 1: energy that you're like, what the fuck is happening here?
Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 1: cause like we have to make a family out of ourselves.
Speaker 1: And then later my friend was like, yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: boys that basically had to leave the house because the
Speaker 1: house was so fucked up and you just go out
Speaker 1: into the street and like do that all day. Like
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all, but there's a majority of either
Speaker 1: like kids with single moms who just have to like
Speaker 1: make their own fun, or like the house is a
Speaker 1: nightmare and you're going out and just like going, fuck
Speaker 1: all that shit, I'm gonna go do this. And you
Speaker 1: have that experience of not having support at home or
Speaker 1: you know, somebody to pat you on the shoulder or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you know it's important to you, so it's important
Speaker 1: to your friends and other pe people that are doing it,
Speaker 1: so like they do a good trick and you all
Speaker 1: fucking cheer, because yeah, people need that and they start
Speaker 1: to recognize it. Like, that's why you're trying so hard.
Speaker 1: You want to impress your friends and you want to
Speaker 1: be good, and they're helping you get good.
Speaker 2: Right, That's why it's so weird as I've gotten older
Speaker 2: to go to a skate spot by myself and just
Speaker 2: work on my tricks. I used to think it was
Speaker 2: crazy to not skate with a group of friends. Why
Speaker 2: would you try anything? Plus if I get hurt, I
Speaker 2: just lay there in the Costco parking lot. It's still
Speaker 2: actually not a good idea for me to skate alone.
Speaker 2: But you're right, And that's why I love that mid
Speaker 2: nineties movie that Jonah Hill made. It was so specific
Speaker 2: and obviously he hung out with skater kids when he
Speaker 2: was a little boy, and it was such a sweet
Speaker 2: story about that family thing and exactly what you said.
Speaker 2: It was all single parent households and they all looked
Speaker 2: after each other, and it was older kid, Like it's
Speaker 2: a big deal when you're in seventh grade and you're
Speaker 2: hanging out with guys in high school who are nice
Speaker 2: too and looking out for you. And like in this movie,
Speaker 2: my mom, you know vetted them for like ten minutes
Speaker 2: and realized, oh, you're in good hands. These guys are older.
Speaker 2: She trusted me with them because my mom. Even though
Speaker 2: I did want to leave the house, she did. She
Speaker 2: would like watch me skate in front of the house,
Speaker 2: and I would like make her get away from the window.
Speaker 2: I was embarrassed that she was like watching me, but
Speaker 2: she was totally supportive. So it was it was more
Speaker 2: than just wanting to get out of the house. It
Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, it's the family thing. It's it's
Speaker 2: I It was so important to me. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: that same thing for everyone.
Speaker 1: It's also it doesn't it feels to me. My observation
Speaker 1: is also like, you're not the dudes that want to
Speaker 1: play football or any of those other kind of like
Speaker 1: institutionalized sports where there's already pegging order, there's school politics,
Speaker 1: there's all that kind of stuff where it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're intentionally stepping outside of that. It has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with ability. It has to do with like, I
Speaker 1: don't want some old fucking man screaming down my back,
Speaker 1: Like I don't. That's not going to work for me.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of like the punk rock
Speaker 1: rebellion element of it. That's also great. That's the vibe
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, fuck the man, but not not agro
Speaker 1: and not like bullies. They're not bullies. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the sweeping These are very sweeping statements, right right.
Speaker 1: It's my observation, and it's been weird.
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence about what I've seen lately, which
Speaker 2: is I never made it. So now my son's going
Speaker 2: to skate Dads that are at the skatepark, not skating
Speaker 2: telling their son what to do. And that's how Niga Houston,
Speaker 2: this skateboarder that is better than anyone. He has since
Speaker 2: got like a divorce from his father and moved in
Speaker 2: as a young teenager with his mom. But it at
Speaker 2: the same time, it's why he got so good. It
Speaker 2: was out of like gymnastics or any of these kind
Speaker 2: of abuse based sports. And I'm generalizing there of course too,
Speaker 2: but if you want to be an Olympic gymnast, you
Speaker 2: have to go through pain and talk about people yelling
Speaker 2: at you and and oh so many other things. I've
Speaker 2: always compared the two though, gymnastics and skateboarding just because
Speaker 2: of the style. It's the way you look while doing it,
Speaker 2: and it's young to younger. The younger you are, the
Speaker 2: better you get when you're young, the better you are
Speaker 2: when it matters.
Speaker 1: And you're kind of having to force bravery because like
Speaker 1: flipping around like that, I mean, it's fun, but then
Speaker 1: if you get hurt, it's hard to do it the
Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, and I'm sure that's where that there's
Speaker 1: so many parents that are can't handle themselves in that
Speaker 1: way though, where it's like, oh, you see the spark
Speaker 1: of potential and suddenly it's just like you're going to
Speaker 1: throttle it out of your child.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I remember so many It's a scene in
Speaker 2: so many movies, but that base where someone's dad would
Speaker 2: be smoking cigarettes and so emotionally invested in the game,
Speaker 2: just trying to vicariously fix his shitty childhood, screaming at
Speaker 2: other kids while my dad would just watch this guy
Speaker 2: scream at me and they get into it because it's like,
Speaker 2: don't yell at my son. It was all of it
Speaker 2: gave me so much anxiety. Every time I had a
Speaker 2: baseball game for years, I would be anxious because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: the dads are going to get in a fight. Who's
Speaker 2: gonna yell at me. Is the coach going to make
Speaker 2: me pretend I'm injured again? Like one time? He's like,
Speaker 2: just limp off, Chris, just limp off. Can you do
Speaker 2: that for me? And I'm like, I don't want to limp, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to lie like things like that, like
Speaker 2: making kids do your bidding.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just people can't handle it. They can't handle
Speaker 1: the power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was on bad Maybe I was just
Speaker 2: on a bad team.
Speaker 1: But well, it sounds like you had a pretty bad limp,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna impact your game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I hadn't practiced a fake limp, and
Speaker 2: I did this terrible thing. I did the opposite of
Speaker 2: a limp, where I was springing myself in the air
Speaker 2: with what was supposed to be my injured.
Speaker 1: Then you got signed to another team. You're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you got a deal.
Speaker 2: He's skipping. He's not injured, he's skipping. Sorry, I've never
Speaker 2: fake limped before.
Speaker 1: Do you remember in The Bad News Bears. God, damn,
Speaker 1: that's such a good movie.
Speaker 2: I gotta revisit it. Yeah, it's been too long.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny. Walter Matth though. It's such a
Speaker 1: seventies thing that could never happen anymore, and in the
Speaker 1: most beautiful way because he's like drinking and smoking and
Speaker 1: then like giving the kids beer and stuff. But the
Speaker 1: kid on the other team who was the little boy,
Speaker 1: I loved him so much. Do you remember the I
Speaker 1: think you're too young. But there's a TV show called
Speaker 1: Portrait of a what was that fucking Eddie's father? Something
Speaker 1: like that Portrait of Vetti's father. It was it was
Speaker 1: like a seventies kid's TV show about and it was
Speaker 1: the Hulk David Banner, who was the act Bill Bixby played.
Speaker 2: They how do you remember how'd you pull Bill Bixby
Speaker 2: out of here?
Speaker 1: Because I was so embarrassed, and I remembered his name
Speaker 1: as the Hulk's name, Yeah, David Banner, I think it was.
Speaker 1: He was a scientist and he's Bilt some shit on
Speaker 1: his pant legs. No, Bill Bixby was the dad. And
Speaker 1: then the kid who played the pitcher on the other
Speaker 1: team or yeah, So it was like the team they
Speaker 1: finally go to play and they are getting good enough
Speaker 1: to actually be good and not the worst, and then
Speaker 1: this kid his dad is the coach, and the dad
Speaker 1: is screaming at everybody in such a prick member. And
Speaker 1: then the very last thing, when they're like tied up,
Speaker 1: he just starts pitching balls on purpose. So he's like
Speaker 1: pitching way high and just standing in and the dad's like,
Speaker 1: come on, get it across the plate, and he's just
Speaker 1: staring at his dad and pitching balls. And his dad
Speaker 1: comes up and he basically pitches the fourth ball and
Speaker 1: walks so that they get the score, so that they
Speaker 1: This is how I'm remembering it. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is actually how happen.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's a famous movie.
Speaker 1: Though it's a famous but it's so old at this point.
Speaker 1: I think it's from nineteen seventy six or seventy five
Speaker 1: or something. But it's just this beautiful moment because it's
Speaker 1: like a thing that had already started happening in kids' sports.
Speaker 1: It's kind of out of control today. I think maybe
Speaker 1: it's come down the other side. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't really spend too much time around kids sports, but
Speaker 1: that acknowledgment that it's like that kid, you're the one
Speaker 1: with the power, you're the one with the ball. You
Speaker 1: can do anything you fucking want. No matter how much
Speaker 1: your dad screams, you can still pitch a ball. And
Speaker 1: this realization this kid oud of like, I don't care
Speaker 1: about this game. In fact, now I want to lose
Speaker 1: the game because I hate you so much. So here
Speaker 1: you go and he just pitches four balls and I
Speaker 1: think the dad comes out to hit him, and then
Speaker 1: Walter Mathow maybe he does hit him. It's really intense,
Speaker 1: but it's like so beautiful where it's like kids. Basically,
Speaker 1: that's the whole idea of it. It's like kids being
Speaker 1: empowered to actually do what they want, not what parents
Speaker 1: want them to do, or not what coaches, you know,
Speaker 1: not buying into that whole thing of like your value
Speaker 1: is winning, Your value is a game, like it's not.
Speaker 2: So that sounds like it's That was from Bad News Bears.
Speaker 2: You were just trying to pinpoint the actor from the
Speaker 2: courtship of Eddie's father.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yes, I was pinpointing that the little boy
Speaker 1: who was the pitcher, who has this great face and there,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, I think he may have gone
Speaker 1: on to become a skateboarder. I'm not kidding. Hold on, hold, oh.
Speaker 2: Wait, this is all It's so funny.
Speaker 1: I could be making all of this up.
Speaker 2: Did he go on to be in No Effects?
Speaker 1: Oh? Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: Where is he one of the kids in Bad News Bears?
Speaker 2: Is I believe fat Mic from No Effects to the
Speaker 2: punk found Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's so all the boys that were home the team
Speaker 1: are now it's their current fixtures. There he is Brandon Cruz.
Speaker 1: There he is there, he is very yep.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a punk. He became a punk. Look
Speaker 1: at the face. How about an all American seventies child actor.
Speaker 2: Face like that? Oh my god, the.
Speaker 1: Little space between his front teeth. Hold on.
Speaker 2: So I love that he was in Bad News Bears
Speaker 2: and became this punk rock star. Yes, it's so perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there look, oh maybe he just has that
Speaker 1: on because he has sotal skateboard clothes on. But maybe
Speaker 1: that's just because it's the fashion and not right.
Speaker 2: It's called being a poser.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was in the Dead Kennedys.
Speaker 2: You're kidding men, So like five years later he was
Speaker 2: in the Dead Kennedys.
Speaker 1: He was in the court okay, the courtship of Thatty's father.
Speaker 2: I did say that, I I it just came out
Speaker 2: of my mouth. Bill bixbeed right out.
Speaker 1: Of me.
Speaker 2: If in a panic?
Speaker 1: What did I call it?
Speaker 2: We just knew it was that's something of.
Speaker 1: Eddie profile of Eddie's father or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But he isn't courtship like when you're dating. I guess
Speaker 2: I need to watch the movie.
Speaker 1: It was because his dad was a single dad. And
Speaker 1: then they had a lady who was like the nanny and.
Speaker 2: A friend brasher type. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: She was not she was. She was actually Asian American.
Speaker 1: Her name was Mioshi Umechi, and she was like very
Speaker 1: proper and stuff. But then you were like, oh, is
Speaker 1: Eddie's father going to marry her? You want her to
Speaker 1: because he the little kid loves her, so you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this would be the perfect family. It's it was one
Speaker 1: of those kind of things. But he was in the
Speaker 1: band doctor No yep, know. And then he became the
Speaker 1: lead singer of The Dead Kennedy's two thousand and one
Speaker 1: to two thousand and three, so post you know, ye, yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: We are we are singing that is our closing song,
Speaker 2: moon over marin A County. I'm sure you're familiar with
Speaker 2: by the Dead Kennedy's, a song where i'd simply do
Speaker 2: an ethel Merman impersonation while karate chopping my throat. I
Speaker 2: have to go, ah, that's what I did the whole song,
Speaker 2: not that violently, and that probably didn't sound good to anyone.
Speaker 1: You sounded exactly like Jellabye offered to me. For as
Speaker 1: much as I know Holiday and Calbodia, that's really my.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's another. They did have some good songs where
Speaker 2: like if a band did them, they would have been
Speaker 2: a popular mainstream song.
Speaker 1: A lot of these the part where so Greg Barrent
Speaker 1: used to have a band with my friend Laura Milligan.
Speaker 1: She was the lead singer, and.
Speaker 2: They used to Monarchs.
Speaker 1: Uh. They had a bunch of names.
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, gotcha it was I don't know if it.
Speaker 1: Was the rating Monarch. So first that's Greg's band. After
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I can't remember the name Hi Ball. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they used to cover Holiday in Cambodia, and she, Laura
Speaker 1: was hilarious. She is one of my best friends. But
Speaker 1: she used to do this thing in the pole Pot Park.
Speaker 1: She would pretend like she was letting different parts of
Speaker 1: the audience sing, but we'd be standing in the middle
Speaker 1: of like some shitty club on Peko and there'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five people there, but she would play
Speaker 1: it like it was like a gigantic concert. So she
Speaker 1: would be like pole and then hold it out for
Speaker 1: everyone to go pot. But we'd all just standing there.
Speaker 1: It was so hilarious.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's great. That's what I'm going to do in
Speaker 2: the chair lift bar up on a snowy mountain. I'm
Speaker 2: going to pretend I'm an arena rocker.
Speaker 1: Pull you go, you sing pole, and then hold put
Speaker 1: your hand to your ear and hold the mic out
Speaker 1: and let everyone else sing pot. They'll fucking love you
Speaker 1: for it. You're right, I oh wait, you're not doing
Speaker 1: that song?
Speaker 2: No, but there. I can do that with a number
Speaker 2: of songs once. Once people are singing along, I gotta
Speaker 2: do the hand of the ear and hold the mic out,
Speaker 2: especially when my voice is gone. Yep, that's a trick
Speaker 2: that I've seen. Even because it's fine. I was so
Speaker 2: hard on myself that I my voice isn't it with
Speaker 2: some of these songs I was able to sing in
Speaker 2: like eighth grade in my car. My voice isn't doing
Speaker 2: that anymore. You go and see any popular band, it's
Speaker 2: very rare that their voice has stayed the same that
Speaker 2: whole time, and you see them always holding the mic
Speaker 2: out like during a high part. Yeah, like I love
Speaker 2: the audience.
Speaker 1: They're singing anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'm going to use that. I'm going
Speaker 2: to use that because I as much as I've oddly
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, I have a standard cold right now.
Speaker 1: But you've been enjoying it.
Speaker 2: You say I have just because there's no looming is
Speaker 2: what is happening? Is this eating my brain away? My
Speaker 2: brain is working. I simply have the sniffles and I'm
Speaker 2: coughing up phlem not to be graphic, but we're all doctors,
Speaker 2: and I and I and I feel it's nostalgic. I
Speaker 2: haven't had a cold in four years, and it's been
Speaker 2: a reason that's sort of just cancel all my appointment
Speaker 2: except for this one, except for the things that matter.
Speaker 1: Good call, good call, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: And I've just kind of been, you know, drinking fluids
Speaker 2: and having vitamin C. But my voice is enjoy terrible
Speaker 2: timing though, because I sound very.
Speaker 1: Gravelly, and uh wait, when's the performance?
Speaker 2: I'm afraid it's Saturday and the second show's been added Sunday.
Speaker 2: My actual birthday.
Speaker 1: Okay, so after we stop recording this, yes, don't talk anymore,
Speaker 1: no joke, just don't rest your voice.
Speaker 2: My singing coach told me.
Speaker 1: That that's what Tom said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: What Carl said.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then do I'm sure you said, like lemon and honey,
Speaker 1: hot water, you know what I mean. And do warm
Speaker 1: ups and stuff like that, like if you are going
Speaker 1: to do any singing, warm up and do those like
Speaker 1: like vibrate your own voice box.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, did youido noises? That is what I've been doing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could have a cold.
Speaker 1: You could also have like allergies because of the crazy
Speaker 1: shit that's flying around in La right now, because of
Speaker 1: the rain.
Speaker 2: It sure felt like allergies the first couple of days,
Speaker 2: just sniffles and I but it's full on eut of fever.
Speaker 2: The other night like it's it's but yeah, all these
Speaker 2: things can be allergy. I'm maybe having severe allergies.
Speaker 1: But sure if it's a cold, you know, get the
Speaker 1: mental game going and it's like, well, then that means
Speaker 1: you're halfway through this cold. You probably only have two
Speaker 1: days left if.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe three? Right then My only fear is we
Speaker 2: right when I land tomorrow we're rehearsing, and then there's
Speaker 2: a day of rehearsal on Friday. But I'm just going
Speaker 2: to speak on the day before. I'm just going to
Speaker 2: talk the words I you know, so they can practice
Speaker 2: the songs.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, you're right, yeah, And if my voice
Speaker 2: stays throaty, we'll just switch to doing covers of the
Speaker 2: guy whose name it would be great if I remembered right.
Speaker 1: Now, Darryl Hall, John Oates.
Speaker 2: No, neither Hall nor Oats has ever had a gravelly Oh,
Speaker 2: the guy that things like this, David do Tom Waits
Speaker 2: Waits Wait, wait, I have it. It's on the tip
Speaker 2: of my tongue.
Speaker 1: Tom Waits, David, Wait wait.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna stop and say, Okay. The rest are
Speaker 2: Tom Waits covers, and now there is Dead Kennedy's as
Speaker 2: Tom Waits. Yeah. Yeah, that might have to be uh
Speaker 2: my fallback position.
Speaker 1: But I'm very keep your keep your hot drink nearby,
Speaker 1: keep your hot honey and lemon based drink nearby.
Speaker 2: I will be using my exactly right thermos. Look at that,
Speaker 2: and I'm exactly throat coat tea, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: go after we're done recording, and I mean this, I'm
Speaker 2: going to Guitar Center. I'm getting Entertainer's Secret throat spray
Speaker 2: nice and it has. Back when I had my tonsils,
Speaker 2: I would just be doing stand up anywhere, and if
Speaker 2: it was winter, I would lose my voice all the
Speaker 2: way and have giant tonsils. And I couldn't find a
Speaker 2: single dentist that would or whatever they're called, uh, that
Speaker 2: would take out my Yes, a doctor, what's the specific tonsil? Doctor? Though?
Speaker 1: That's what I can't remember.
Speaker 2: An anti in your mouth and throat, and sometimes they
Speaker 2: dabble in foot.
Speaker 1: And nose sometimes why yes?
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Why did you not become a DNS I? I? Uh,
Speaker 2: it was so hard to get them to take my
Speaker 2: tonsils out. My whole life, I had strapped throat every
Speaker 2: five times a year. Anyway, I discovered this someone told
Speaker 2: me about Entertainer's Secret. It's so funny. It's a throat
Speaker 2: spray with like a film reel on it and some
Speaker 2: theater masks. Yes, and I would lose my voice and
Speaker 2: I'd spray it in there like I was about to
Speaker 2: do a kissing scene like the old guy from Tutsie. Sure,
Speaker 2: but my voice had come back for exactly two minutes,
Speaker 2: and then it would go away and I'd spray again.
Speaker 2: I made it through entire weekends of shows using this
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Speaker 2: other podcasts that aren't this one.
Speaker 1: We could get them on board. We've got a nice
Speaker 1: sized audience.
Speaker 2: If anyone from the entertainer Secret Throat Spray people is listening,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to represent you.
Speaker 1: This is when Chris really loses it. He goes off
Speaker 1: by himself and says, I'm ready to represent you right right.
Speaker 1: This podcast is what's making it possible.
Speaker 2: I really that was a perfect opportunity right there for
Speaker 2: me to say we yeah.
Speaker 1: And he like the old lady in the parking lot,
Speaker 1: open it both.
Speaker 2: Did once I told you about her. We loved her.
Speaker 1: See he's doing it right now. Look at how quickly
Speaker 1: he can adapt. Well. I'm very excited though, because six
Speaker 1: months ago, this hold singing with the band thing was
Speaker 1: just this dream kind of I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. And you took a risk
Speaker 1: and you had fun, they have fun doing it, you
Speaker 1: made friends doing it, and now you're actually doing a thing.
Speaker 1: It's almost like one more it's like skateboarding, like golf.
Speaker 1: These things you're adding to your life and you're actually
Speaker 1: continuing to open yourself up to new opportunities and new performances.
Speaker 2: And I want to be that way. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be closed off.
Speaker 1: You're doing it.
Speaker 2: That's happening. Thank you, Thank yous. I appreciate you recognizing it,
Speaker 2: because I have noticed, and I am happy that I'm
Speaker 2: doing these things. But it is also that thing where
Speaker 2: I'm spreading myself thin over a bunch of different things,
Speaker 2: and it's I think you could just a lot of
Speaker 2: these I think they call themselves renaissance people. They end
Speaker 2: up wandering off, you know, kind of lonely, dabbling in
Speaker 2: so many different things that they never they never really
Speaker 2: make it in any of them because they're not spending enough.
Speaker 2: Everyone we know all they do. If they're focused, they
Speaker 2: just focus on that one thing and they become successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've always done multiple things. You've always been
Speaker 1: a multipler, and you are successful. So like whatever, you
Speaker 1: can choose to interpret it differently, but like you've worked
Speaker 1: on this podcast and didn't give up on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and booked this podcast, and like was the sound man
Speaker 1: for this podcast and made it happen, and now this
Speaker 1: podcast to beables you to do other things like you know,
Speaker 1: you've put in the work on things and then gotten
Speaker 1: yourself paid on multiple things. You've won golf tournaments and prizes.
Speaker 2: It means a lot when you if I this kind
Speaker 2: of support when it comes from you, you did. You
Speaker 2: gave me a call like this before I did Conan
Speaker 2: many years ago, and it made me suddenly so not nervous,
Speaker 2: like I earn this, yep that I right before I
Speaker 2: went out pulled those curtains open. I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I should be nervous right now. Why am I not nervous?
Speaker 2: And then I decided that last minute to be very
Speaker 2: very nervous. Sure, but yeah, I really appreciate that your support.
Speaker 2: I thank you.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Well. Also, everything we do and the way
Speaker 1: we experience it is a choice. So you can be
Speaker 1: as nervous as you want to be. Usually that means
Speaker 1: you're excited. Like we can interpret it is I'm nervous,
Speaker 1: which means I'm a failure, I'm a fraud. I've done
Speaker 1: that a million times. It's just not worth it. It's
Speaker 1: like you're wrong about that. You have to admit you're wrong.
Speaker 1: You have to admit you put a lens on things
Speaker 1: negatively to because you think it's a coping mechanism. It
Speaker 1: will help you be less disappointed if it doesn't go well.
Speaker 1: And instead of that, you also have the option to
Speaker 1: look at it, be have that feeling, be excited, and
Speaker 1: then use that excitement as the fuel to excel and
Speaker 1: be great, which is the thing you you know you
Speaker 1: do and you have experience with. And the thing that
Speaker 1: so few people understand is that when you see a
Speaker 1: comedian kill it on Conan, it took you know, usually
Speaker 1: about seventy eight hours before that of pure human torture
Speaker 1: to get out there and get that done. Not if
Speaker 1: you're a psychopath like many people we know, but those
Speaker 1: of us who actually are pure comedy sensitivo, you know
Speaker 1: who it comes through us. It's authentic and it's real.
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do it, and so the difficulty
Speaker 1: is actually the mark of quality, because it's difficult because
Speaker 1: you care and you're actually talking about yourself, and it's
Speaker 1: real and what you do out there is a real
Speaker 1: experience for you. That's why people love it so much
Speaker 1: when they watch it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's thank you.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be nervous when you're a fucking
Speaker 1: fraud or when you're like when you're a weird creep
Speaker 1: that's just trying to control large groups of people.
Speaker 2: And the noises thing, that's the thing that that's the
Speaker 2: one that confuses me when it is someone that is
Speaker 2: talented and they do not get nervous, and I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: how do you believe in yourself this much? There has
Speaker 2: to be they also must have been murderers at some point.
Speaker 1: Or had screaming dads or like figured out you know.
Speaker 1: I think we had similar upbringings where it's like our
Speaker 1: parents left us alone just enough to allow us to
Speaker 1: be independent, right, and then they also work on or
Speaker 1: at least my parents were like those seventies parents were.
Speaker 1: Then we got a little extra being left alone that
Speaker 1: wasn't great because it was it created anxiety and coping
Speaker 1: mechanisms that other people didn't really have to go into.
Speaker 1: So it's like whatever, it's fine because it's like it's
Speaker 1: that idea that then how you know, when people go
Speaker 1: like how do you do that? How do you get
Speaker 1: on stage and tell jokes? Then it's just like because
Speaker 1: of the life experience that I've had.
Speaker 2: Because for four years I had an imaginary friend named
Speaker 2: Chuck who followed me around and I would actually speak
Speaker 2: to you know, that's all. It's uh. And my parents
Speaker 2: didn't shame me. They're like, how's Chuck doing? Like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's good, he's good. I wonder when any real children
Speaker 2: will move to my neighborhood. But you're right, the all
Speaker 2: these comics always joke about it, and I've joked about
Speaker 2: it that you're working one hour a night, but no,
Speaker 2: at that one hour that night involves me pacing around
Speaker 2: and doubting myself for myself for two days prior, yep,
Speaker 2: and beating myself up. I really don't enjoy stand up
Speaker 2: until like the middle of a set if it's going well,
Speaker 2: or usually just the end. Once it's over, I'm like,
Speaker 2: that was really enjoyable, but not during.
Speaker 1: It's like you, it's past the third joke, lip, I
Speaker 1: think where you start. No one's good when they very
Speaker 1: first start, because either you go over you go under.
Speaker 1: Unless you're doing sets every single night. Usually the first
Speaker 1: joke can either be great or awful. Then you have
Speaker 1: a chance to either recover on the second joke or
Speaker 1: get over confident on the second joke and then really
Speaker 1: bite it. And then there's the third joke where you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is my last chance. But if this
Speaker 1: but if that joke goes like either poorly or even medium,
Speaker 1: that's when my like my throat will just tighten and
Speaker 1: then suddenly I'm kind of talking like this and I
Speaker 1: kick it to the end of yeah, yeah, which shit
Speaker 1: like that goes on on stage, and the audience immediately
Speaker 1: gets like a stomach ache, and like they almost want
Speaker 1: to especially if you're when you're a female comic, they
Speaker 1: want to boo you off the stage because I can't
Speaker 1: handle how vulnerable you are right then, And like there's
Speaker 1: those moments where like you have to run those scenarios
Speaker 1: through your head before you do a set because it
Speaker 1: could happen to.
Speaker 2: You, right and it has this and it has I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm suddenly fifteen years old and you're all mad at.
Speaker 1: Me, yep, or the just all the liquid has gone
Speaker 1: out of my upper body. There's no it's dry as
Speaker 1: a bone and there's nothing coming. And I can't keep
Speaker 1: sipping this water because it's actually interrupting me talking.
Speaker 2: I still when I watch I have so many nervous SIPs.
Speaker 2: It's the only time I stay hydrated is when I
Speaker 2: want to not be somewhere.
Speaker 1: You have to write that down for like when you're
Speaker 1: actually doing it on stage.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will. I don't have to do it now,
Speaker 2: but I won't remember.
Speaker 1: You have to do it now. You always have to
Speaker 1: keep That's why you have to keep a post it note,
Speaker 1: a neon post it note nearby.
Speaker 2: I wrote it down, or a version of it that
Speaker 2: I won't understand in an hour. I know if I did,
Speaker 2: if I did a show at at like Largo, would
Speaker 2: you do it?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Would you perform entirely? Would you do song? Do you sell?
Speaker 2: That's a yes? Yes? Okay, I'm going to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Good luck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I might just surprise you. I I
Speaker 2: love it if you did scand up again. And if
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me if you do music or
Speaker 2: if you tell jokes, I think, deep down, even if
Speaker 2: you aren't admitting it, you miss live performance, and.
Speaker 1: I really I miss it terribly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: It's true. No, No, I've admitted that to you a
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and I do have a couple plans.
Speaker 1: I was going I'm really mad this didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I was going to be one of the opening comics.
Speaker 1: Jackie Cashin did a show at the the Improv Bar
Speaker 1: whatever that yeah, yeah thing it's called the Lab. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's been that long. I haven't been at the Lab.
Speaker 1: So Jackie asked me if I would go do her
Speaker 1: lab show be one of the opening comics, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I absolutely will. But then it was
Speaker 1: the twenty first of December and basically I had to
Speaker 1: go to Pedaluma because my sister's like, oh, really, are
Speaker 1: you going to miss the big dinner on the twenty second,
Speaker 1: where I was like wait what, I didn't know there
Speaker 1: was already plans in the work, so I had to
Speaker 1: cancel on her. And I was so bumped because I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to do this really bad. She's like,
Speaker 1: we'll do it a different time. And that's Jackiecasion. God
Speaker 1: bless fucking Jackiecasi. I follow her on TikTok and she
Speaker 1: has some of the funniest fucking jokes, like she's just
Speaker 1: such a good comic, and I was like, this will
Speaker 1: be such a great way. I'll be able to watch
Speaker 1: her and I'll be able to kind of be in.
Speaker 1: That's like such a great crowd. People that know Jackie
Speaker 1: that then they fucking like care about comedy and they
Speaker 1: you know, they're the good comedy nerds, like the Positive
Speaker 1: Vibe Comedy Rights. I was really excited to do it,
Speaker 1: and also I just was like, I need to just
Speaker 1: start writing bits by the end. Before when I was
Speaker 1: doing sets before COVID, I just had these like nine
Speaker 1: like old tweets that I had kind of refurbished in
Speaker 1: destroy my life, yes, of course, and then I just
Speaker 1: was like no, no, I just kept doing the same
Speaker 1: set every time I would do a set, and it
Speaker 1: made me feel terrible and ashamed because I am from
Speaker 1: that weird era in the nineties where like you were
Speaker 1: supposed to do new material every time you did a set.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think most comics around.
Speaker 2: I love to stand up like that. Though, Like you
Speaker 2: had a joke that was about someone rattling the bathroom door.
Speaker 2: I think you told it differently. I think it was
Speaker 2: based on a tweet probably, and you told it differently
Speaker 2: every time, But it was the talking your way through
Speaker 2: it and the way you were talking about it that
Speaker 2: made it work. I think that it's okay to do.
Speaker 1: It is it's just so easy. And you know this
Speaker 1: ould trick where when you're doing well, No'm like when
Speaker 1: you're mid set where you haven't written anything new, and
Speaker 1: you can basically I can see a movie in my
Speaker 1: head of the dude that's been at the three shows
Speaker 1: where I've done this same set, who is like Because
Speaker 1: there's just this brand of comedy fan these days that
Speaker 1: I am just like there, it's just a different era
Speaker 1: where they're like they go to tons of shows and
Speaker 1: they're fanship is like, they're into it like super nerds,
Speaker 1: and they know when people are doing jokes from old
Speaker 1: specials and they complain about it and all that energy
Speaker 1: that's very much like they want to be doing it.
Speaker 1: So they're putting this energy out other people. And that's
Speaker 1: all I can think about when I'm on stage is like, well,
Speaker 1: if one of those people's here, then they they're.
Speaker 2: Just just one of them. It just be fifty other
Speaker 2: people that just want to be entertained by you, and
Speaker 2: that one person will make me do all half biked.
Speaker 2: It kind of happened the other day at the Lyric.
Speaker 2: I did an hour long set and I there was
Speaker 2: a couple of people where I was like, I know
Speaker 2: they've heard this most of this before. One of them
Speaker 2: is my own manager, and I'm still let Oh my god,
Speaker 2: my head, I just wish that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard not to do that to yourself. Well,
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing in the world to do to
Speaker 1: yourself is to let that voice step up and be
Speaker 1: like bad news. Everyone's disappointed if you Yeah, yeah, mid set,
Speaker 1: the mid set so dark. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: have a couple of plans in the works to try
Speaker 1: to do it again.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, it was a I told Flanagan I think it
Speaker 1: was November and Fred Armison was doing like a Fred
Speaker 1: Armison and Friends show, and he was like, do you
Speaker 1: want to come and do Fred show? Because you know
Speaker 1: we're friends or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I really want that. I think you're
Speaker 2: my way into back into Largos and that's that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons I want. And what did you do?
Speaker 2: I haven't been there for years? Yeah, it's that COVID,
Speaker 2: it's you know all that.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, no one's been there for years.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: I mean he opened up a lot sooner than most
Speaker 1: like larger venues. Yeah, but now he's got a down pat.
Speaker 2: And what happened with that discussion?
Speaker 1: You're just it's just oh, they had to they had
Speaker 1: to move the show for some reason. It was like
Speaker 1: a holiday issue.
Speaker 2: Man. I if I look back, there are so many
Speaker 2: things that happen on the twenty first or twenty second
Speaker 2: in December, and I've had to say note every year,
Speaker 2: that is the time everyone's like, hey, good news, we
Speaker 2: got a career opportunity. Amazing show. It's the twenty first
Speaker 2: and twenty second. I'm going to my family on the
Speaker 2: nineteenth and nothing can change that. I have to sit
Speaker 2: with my family and eat candy and watch movies, and
Speaker 2: it's more important than my career just during those days.
Speaker 1: Sorry, but also you have to know that nothing has
Speaker 1: ever happened that's career changing on the twenty first or
Speaker 1: twenty second right of December, when literally Los Angeles empties
Speaker 1: out like a glass of water at night. It's just
Speaker 1: empty of all human beings.
Speaker 2: Right. That's why I'm getting the call as everyone else
Speaker 2: has gone to why does everyone want me around the holidays? Oh,
Speaker 2: it's just because they're asking everyone.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah exactly stop booking shows during the those times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would not be fun.
Speaker 1: That's not the sill. People are like, please. Also, I
Speaker 1: do have the guilt, and we've talked about this. I
Speaker 1: just have the guilt of I know there's a million
Speaker 1: billion people that do stand up and want sets. So
Speaker 1: I was starting to feel like when I did my set,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you're not even gonna write and
Speaker 1: you're not going to try, why are you taking up
Speaker 1: someone else's spot. There's a youngster that's trying to be
Speaker 1: an up and comer, and I'm just kind of like,
Speaker 1: it's like a person that won't leave their table at
Speaker 1: a busy restaurant like that.
Speaker 2: I guess you can. I mean, I guess I think
Speaker 2: that sometimes as well. Yeah, but it's hard. I know.
Speaker 2: It's every time I do a show, the nice people
Speaker 2: that listen to our podcast after come up to me
Speaker 2: and ask when you're going to perform again. It is
Speaker 2: the first or second question out of everyone's mouth, and
Speaker 2: I just say, I'm working on it, but I don't you.
Speaker 1: Know that, and you truly are. I mean, I do
Speaker 1: appreciate your constancy about it. I just I also think
Speaker 1: it's just my uh. I think it's post COVID night
Speaker 1: I have to break out of that feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: that feeling of like the last show I did was
Speaker 1: bad or whatever, where it's like who gives a shit
Speaker 1: at this point? Who really gives a shit about anything
Speaker 1: right at all?
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I haven't fully broken out of it,
Speaker 2: or it's still in my head that I haven't. I'm
Speaker 2: still rusty. That's yeah, Like the damage of taking that
Speaker 2: much time off is you know, like the heartache after
Speaker 2: a six month relationship lasting three years. It's the same
Speaker 2: with comedy.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you didn't break up. You should have? Then
Speaker 1: you just took two and a half years to break up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I broke up with a stand up around the
Speaker 2: time COVID hit and uh, And even though we're now
Speaker 2: seeing each other as friends, I'm still in love with
Speaker 2: the old relationship we once had with them far more romantic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, and looking back where it's like and I
Speaker 1: was hotter, I used to do this better. There's like
Speaker 1: all there's so many things that weren't standing in the way.
Speaker 1: It was exciting and new.
Speaker 2: The last time I was going at stand up, I
Speaker 2: didn't have progressive lenses, a laundry cart and I used
Speaker 2: to remember to zip up the front of my trousers,
Speaker 2: and I never called them trousers.
Speaker 1: No, No, I have aged so much. You are eighty six.
Speaker 1: You should ask that lady at Lasson's parking lot out
Speaker 1: on a date because you're the same age as her.
Speaker 2: I'm sure i'll learn how to play bridge. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is, but let's do it. I took
Speaker 2: my laundry cart down to the grocery store and put
Speaker 2: groceries in it a car. I had my own, my
Speaker 2: own grocery cart.
Speaker 1: I brought it smart. Then you don't have to like
Speaker 1: hack it back pretending you're cool. It's just not just
Speaker 1: beside stuff that whole need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm embracing it.
Speaker 1: I think a rolling grocery cart is a great idea
Speaker 1: because I'm that person has like four bags on each
Speaker 1: arm and I'm just trying to get to like the
Speaker 1: kitchen counter. It's the it's such a and the ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. I'm like, oh, it's good
Speaker 2: exercise to do one arms, shoulders, shrugs on my seven
Speaker 2: block walk home. What am I doing? No?
Speaker 1: That is actually really good. That's a good isolated isometric muscular.
Speaker 2: I really do. As I walk home, I'm rolling my
Speaker 2: shoulders like this. You can't see it, but right now
Speaker 2: I'm showing Karen how I roll my shoulders so my
Speaker 2: croceries and I'm holding you weird.
Speaker 1: If this guy is walking towards you on the sidewalk,
Speaker 1: you would truly jwalk to get away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which did you know is no longer against the law.
Speaker 1: That's right, Thank you Los Angeles municipal voters. Bem, we
Speaker 1: get to walk all the fuck over the street now.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's as long as it seems safe. They're
Speaker 2: just like, who cares anymore, we don't want your money.
Speaker 2: I don't know what changed. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think they were like, no cop is spending their
Speaker 1: time doing stuff like this, so we might as well
Speaker 1: just take it off the books officially, although I will
Speaker 1: say when I lived in Burbank, my friend Vicki would
Speaker 1: come over and we would do like an hour walk
Speaker 1: before work every morning. And one morning we were walking.
Speaker 1: We had walked all through to Local Lake and we
Speaker 1: were walking over to the Starbucks like as a final pass,
Speaker 1: and we were at that is it Riverside or Alameda?
Speaker 1: You know how the two come into a y right
Speaker 1: by Bob's Big Boy. So there's a street here, street here,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes one, it becomes riverside. So we
Speaker 1: were over at the crosswalk and it's a light and
Speaker 1: a whole thing. It's pretty busy road, but it was
Speaker 1: seven in the morning, so we were just like, we're
Speaker 1: just like checking checking, We're going to run across. Suddenly
Speaker 1: there's a motorcycle cop and he's rolling toward us, pointing
Speaker 1: his finger in the air and going back. And then
Speaker 1: we went and stood on the We had to go
Speaker 1: back across the crosswalk and stand in the street, and
Speaker 1: then he gave us a lecture about how many people
Speaker 1: get killed, this is very dangerous, don't ever do this again,
Speaker 1: and he was It was so infuriating. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was so fearous. I'm like, got it, thank you,
Speaker 1: got it immediately, so rebellious, but it was like, we
Speaker 1: get it. We did a thing that was wrong. Now
Speaker 1: you're making us wait for a light and there's literally
Speaker 1: not a car for miles in any direction. Got it?
Speaker 1: Also power problem.
Speaker 2: I'm not a child. And also no puppy guarding that's
Speaker 2: what he was doing.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought maybe that was just region old where
Speaker 2: I grew up. That's where where you're just standing there
Speaker 2: waiting to catch someone, usually in a sport or something.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, It's like, you can't just stand there and
Speaker 2: wait for me, Like if you're let's say it's a
Speaker 2: game of tag where you have to touch a pole
Speaker 2: or something. I have to invent a game to explain this.
Speaker 2: But you can't just hang out by the pole waiting
Speaker 2: for that, right. That's puppy gard cheating. And I don't
Speaker 2: know where the puppy comes in.
Speaker 1: What the uh, I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2: No, I have a feeling. It's just what if it's
Speaker 2: something only I said and I saw it in a dream.
Speaker 2: You know how we.
Speaker 1: All used to hear you and Chuck this was meet
Speaker 1: you and Chuck and everybody else used to say it
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: Not only did I have an imaginary friend Chuck, I
Speaker 2: had six imaginary puppies, and it was Chuck. I had
Speaker 2: to guard it all time to tag them, so I
Speaker 2: would guard the puppies. I just realized where it came from.
Speaker 1: We we've gone over. That was the easiest, most fun.
Speaker 1: We're very good at podcasting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really just a second nature for us.
Speaker 1: You know why, because we're only talking about ourselves that
Speaker 1: entire episode, we both talked only about it.
Speaker 2: You know what. No, we we gave a shout out
Speaker 2: to that the older lady that is my hero. We
Speaker 2: talked about her and then yes, and then we each
Speaker 2: talked about ourselves.
Speaker 1: Yes, wait wait, we also talked about.
Speaker 2: Brandon Cruz, Brandon cris So. We talked about singer and
Speaker 2: vocal coach Carlbine plant Based Hot Crazy band.
Speaker 1: Plant Based.
Speaker 2: I will be at Hot Crazy on February ninth when
Speaker 2: I get back. Hell yeah, Birthday concert series doing Tom
Speaker 2: Waits covers.
Speaker 1: Hell. Yes, well, good look at your show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you for the supportive
Speaker 2: words and making me I actually you have a special
Speaker 2: way of doing that. And now I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to own it and have fun and pretend
Speaker 2: I'm in an arena rocker and it's going to be
Speaker 2: great and funny. Yes, it's it's a comedy show.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, watch some old punk live concerts and
Speaker 1: do shit that those lead singers do, like go stand
Speaker 1: right at the speaker. Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Don't they do a bunch of shit like that? Or
Speaker 1: just like you know, let the front roasting put the
Speaker 1: mic down into the crowd is.
Speaker 2: Like putting your leg up on a monitor does actually
Speaker 2: help you isolate all the air. Like Carl was telling me,
Speaker 2: like keep your legs slightly bent. They aren't spreading their
Speaker 2: legs and bending them just to look intimidating on stage.
Speaker 2: A lot of it is vocal tricks.
Speaker 1: So you don't clench up, don't keep it loose. Keep
Speaker 1: it loose.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing I learned from Carl. Don't clench up.
Speaker 2: I flex every muscle in my body. What was I thinking?
Speaker 1: No, you have to be like one of those weird
Speaker 1: floppy air tube guys in front of a Carlo.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a used car lot balloon man,
Speaker 2: long and tall and slender and folding throughout my torso
Speaker 2: and smiling. Don't forget to smile now. Jim Lindberg, who
Speaker 2: is the lead singer of Pennywise, and we became peals
Speaker 2: when I worked at Fuel and I kind of stayed
Speaker 2: in touch. I posted a video of me singing and
Speaker 2: that was the first thing he said, Hey, good tone,
Speaker 2: good pitch, good singing strung, but what the hell are
Speaker 2: you doing with your arms? Take my seminar this weekend
Speaker 2: Punk rock arms, and he wrote all these fake like
Speaker 2: sign up times and everything. It was all in a
Speaker 2: comment section. He took it super seriously, and I think
Speaker 2: people thought he was being serious, but I did. In
Speaker 2: the video, I'm literally just have my arms down next
Speaker 2: to my sides like a kid waiting to get picked
Speaker 2: at recess, Like it's really funny.
Speaker 1: So you're right, So wait, can you just give us
Speaker 1: a couple examples of punk rock?
Speaker 2: I mean you have to say the lyrics and make
Speaker 2: a fist and pump your fists to the consonants and
Speaker 2: the rhythm of the the what you're singing. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: it's obviously hard to do while you're talking. That's why
Speaker 2: what just happened then was stuttering. I would not be
Speaker 2: stuttering if I wasn't trying to pump my fists or
Speaker 2: just or just having your arms raised, or holding the
Speaker 2: mic stand and having my elbows lifted up, just anything
Speaker 2: other than yes, please pick me for third recess kickball arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't show them any nervousness because there you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, this is fun, guys, it's fun.
Speaker 1: And that is also about that is the zen trick too,
Speaker 1: where it's like You don't think about what they're thinking
Speaker 1: about you. You think about giving them what they want,
Speaker 1: giving them a good time, giving them like here's you're
Speaker 1: gonna love this. We're going to play these songs you love.
Speaker 1: We're giving it to you, You're not taking anything from.
Speaker 2: It, and I'm going to do whatever you are. There
Speaker 2: is in feige, full confidence, and that includes my arms.
Speaker 2: That's time you can really see my personality in my arms.
Speaker 2: The last performance and this time confident arms that the
Speaker 2: kind that can sell a car.
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to put one fist on your hip.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that as you sing like
Speaker 1: turn maybe do like a almost like you're kind of
Speaker 1: doing a Greek freeze or is that what it is?
Speaker 1: You know where you're kind of like it would be
Speaker 1: like a walk like an Egyptian but instead of trying
Speaker 1: to do Egyptian arms, but one fist on a hip
Speaker 1: into profile. It's kind of a yeah. It's like a
Speaker 1: peev Herman slightly yeah thing. It's presentational. You're saying, here,
Speaker 1: I have a style. I'm making a choice.
Speaker 2: It's so funny, but I have When we're done here,
Speaker 2: I am going to well, first time, gonna get my
Speaker 2: throat spray, and then I'm going to look at body
Speaker 2: positions and old punk rock videos on YouTube, and I'm.
Speaker 1: You know what you could do at the guitar Center.
Speaker 1: You could ask any cashier because they are also a
Speaker 1: lead singer of a band, and you can be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what are yours? Hey, what are some pretty solid armjusters
Speaker 1: you like to use as a singer. You will get answered.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if you're kidding or not,
Speaker 2: but I think I actually will.
Speaker 1: I don't either, because I think it's a good idea.
Speaker 2: It just reminds me of that time Brandon Malson I
Speaker 2: got on stage at a Scorpions show and he did
Speaker 2: the proper headbanging as security pulled him off stage, and
Speaker 2: I did the confusingly did the robot. I've told that
Speaker 2: story before, but it's an example now of what I
Speaker 2: just don't know what to do with my body. I
Speaker 2: panicked and I started doing the robot. I went electric boogloo,
Speaker 2: and I just should have gone I don't I think.
Speaker 1: People would like it if you did the robot. In
Speaker 1: this scenario, you'd have to wait till the ends, like
Speaker 1: gain the good faith, yes, and then save the Robot
Speaker 1: for when things are.
Speaker 2: Going right, I think you're right, then I can actually
Speaker 2: express myself. Yeah, okay, I have a lot of studying
Speaker 2: to do. Thank you Karen for the words of encouragement.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm proud of you. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think going into music is always a great option
Speaker 1: for kid. We should we should always do it. It's
Speaker 1: really smart.
Speaker 2: I think the refreshing thing is going to be uh
Speaker 2: if we do get paid, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: we will splitting that with three other people, that'll be
Speaker 2: a nice refreshing. Oh. I don't know how bands do it.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my friend who was in a band,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what hotel do you guys stay
Speaker 1: out when you are in because we had just been
Speaker 1: on tour, and that guy's like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: We were in a van and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're splurging with an Airbnb cabin. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: this is I'm I'm this is uh, I'm spending money
Speaker 2: on this, but it's important to me.
Speaker 1: It's for charity. Wait, so sorry, you're doing that this weekend?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leaving tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, have the best time. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: the best time.
Speaker 2: You know how to say later, but I had a
Speaker 2: good time.
Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, perfect, I'm so glad to hear it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, it was great. Thanks for all the advice.
Speaker 2: It all worked good.
Speaker 1: Perfect. I love hearing it.
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