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Speaker 1: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.

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Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?

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Speaker 1: Malborn?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do your need you ride? Ride? Do you need with

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Speaker 2: Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?

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Speaker 2: This is Chris.

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Speaker 1: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgareth.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Karen.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Happy February, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it is February, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's a brand new month.

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Speaker 2: Well, and a month where someone has a birthday just

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Speaker 1: Whose birthday is it? Gee?

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Speaker 2: Why it's me?

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Speaker 1: Oh it's you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What day is your birthday?

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Speaker 2: My day birth?

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Speaker 1: This is the fifth fab five.

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Speaker 2: Fab five fab five Freddy. That's what they used to

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Speaker 2: call me in my rap days.

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Speaker 1: I better put that right into my calendar. I feel

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Speaker 2: I Karen, I don't know your birthday. I am very

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Speaker 2: bad at that my sister makes me a calendar yep,

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Speaker 2: I get it every year because I've I've forgotten so

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Speaker 1: I during Facebook era, I started to tell myself I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people's thirst for hearing happy birthday it

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't care about birthdays. I've never really wanted

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Speaker 1: I mean, what choice do we have when we feel bad?

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Speaker 1: But to pretend, or to the nineties version of it is,

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Speaker 1: Birthdays don't matter to me. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Of course they do, but that was it was like

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Speaker 1: My personality is I don't care about birthdays.

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Speaker 2: And she was not scared at all. She's a badass.

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Speaker 1: Why would she be scared. I'm sure she's fucking murdered

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Speaker 2: Cia secret ops. They have put her in places we

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Speaker 2: She has slit so many throat. I just really like hers,

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Speaker 2: I love this lady. She but she just asked me

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Speaker 2: Yep. I want her at my shows. I got to

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Speaker 1: you're going to do another? Is that the thing you're

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Speaker 1: No, it's the opposite. In comedy, it's the least chill, fucking,

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Speaker 2: Right, And so maybe that's why I love seeing it

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Speaker 1: into the street and like do that all day. Like

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00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all, but there's a majority of either

437
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: like kids with single moms who just have to like

438
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: make their own fun, or like the house is a

439
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: nightmare and you're going out and just like going, fuck

440
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: all that shit, I'm gonna go do this. And you

441
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: have that experience of not having support at home or

442
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, somebody to pat you on the shoulder or whatever,

443
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: and you know it's important to you, so it's important

444
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: to your friends and other pe people that are doing it,

445
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: so like they do a good trick and you all

446
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: fucking cheer, because yeah, people need that and they start

447
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: to recognize it. Like, that's why you're trying so hard.

448
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: You want to impress your friends and you want to

449
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: be good, and they're helping you get good.

450
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: Right, That's why it's so weird as I've gotten older

451
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: to go to a skate spot by myself and just

452
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: work on my tricks. I used to think it was

453
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: crazy to not skate with a group of friends. Why

454
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: would you try anything? Plus if I get hurt, I

455
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: just lay there in the Costco parking lot. It's still

456
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: actually not a good idea for me to skate alone.

457
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: But you're right, And that's why I love that mid

458
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 2: nineties movie that Jonah Hill made. It was so specific

459
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 2: and obviously he hung out with skater kids when he

460
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: was a little boy, and it was such a sweet

461
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: story about that family thing and exactly what you said.

462
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: It was all single parent households and they all looked

463
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: after each other, and it was older kid, Like it's

464
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: a big deal when you're in seventh grade and you're

465
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: hanging out with guys in high school who are nice

466
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: too and looking out for you. And like in this movie,

467
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: my mom, you know vetted them for like ten minutes

468
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: and realized, oh, you're in good hands. These guys are older.

469
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: She trusted me with them because my mom. Even though

470
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: I did want to leave the house, she did. She

471
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: would like watch me skate in front of the house,

472
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: and I would like make her get away from the window.

473
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: I was embarrassed that she was like watching me, but

474
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: she was totally supportive. So it was it was more

475
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: than just wanting to get out of the house. It

476
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, it's the family thing. It's it's

477
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: I It was so important to me. Yeah, and it's

478
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: that same thing for everyone.

479
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: It's also it doesn't it feels to me. My observation

480
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: is also like, you're not the dudes that want to

481
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: play football or any of those other kind of like

482
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: institutionalized sports where there's already pegging order, there's school politics,

483
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: there's all that kind of stuff where it's like, no,

484
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: you're intentionally stepping outside of that. It has nothing to

485
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: do with ability. It has to do with like, I

486
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: don't want some old fucking man screaming down my back,

487
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't. That's not going to work for me.

488
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of like the punk rock

489
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: rebellion element of it. That's also great. That's the vibe

490
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, fuck the man, but not not agro

491
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: and not like bullies. They're not bullies. Yeah, I mean,

492
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: that's the sweeping These are very sweeping statements, right right.

493
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: It's my observation, and it's been weird.

494
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence about what I've seen lately, which

495
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: is I never made it. So now my son's going

496
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: to skate Dads that are at the skatepark, not skating

497
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: telling their son what to do. And that's how Niga Houston,

498
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: this skateboarder that is better than anyone. He has since

499
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: got like a divorce from his father and moved in

500
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: as a young teenager with his mom. But it at

501
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: the same time, it's why he got so good. It

502
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: was out of like gymnastics or any of these kind

503
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: of abuse based sports. And I'm generalizing there of course too,

504
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: but if you want to be an Olympic gymnast, you

505
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: have to go through pain and talk about people yelling

506
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: at you and and oh so many other things. I've

507
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: always compared the two though, gymnastics and skateboarding just because

508
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: of the style. It's the way you look while doing it,

509
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: and it's young to younger. The younger you are, the

510
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: better you get when you're young, the better you are

511
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: when it matters.

512
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: And you're kind of having to force bravery because like

513
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: flipping around like that, I mean, it's fun, but then

514
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: if you get hurt, it's hard to do it the

515
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, and I'm sure that's where that there's

516
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: so many parents that are can't handle themselves in that

517
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: way though, where it's like, oh, you see the spark

518
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: of potential and suddenly it's just like you're going to

519
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: throttle it out of your child.

520
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I remember so many It's a scene in

521
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: so many movies, but that base where someone's dad would

522
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: be smoking cigarettes and so emotionally invested in the game,

523
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: just trying to vicariously fix his shitty childhood, screaming at

524
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: other kids while my dad would just watch this guy

525
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: scream at me and they get into it because it's like,

526
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: don't yell at my son. It was all of it

527
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: gave me so much anxiety. Every time I had a

528
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: baseball game for years, I would be anxious because I'm like, oh,

529
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: the dads are going to get in a fight. Who's

530
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: gonna yell at me. Is the coach going to make

531
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: me pretend I'm injured again? Like one time? He's like,

532
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: just limp off, Chris, just limp off. Can you do

533
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: that for me? And I'm like, I don't want to limp, Like,

534
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to lie like things like that, like

535
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: making kids do your bidding.

536
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just people can't handle it. They can't handle

537
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the power.

538
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was on bad Maybe I was just

539
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: on a bad team.

540
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: But well, it sounds like you had a pretty bad limp,

541
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: so that's gonna impact your game.

542
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I hadn't practiced a fake limp, and

543
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: I did this terrible thing. I did the opposite of

544
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: a limp, where I was springing myself in the air

545
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: with what was supposed to be my injured.

546
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: Then you got signed to another team. You're like, oh

547
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: my god, you got a deal.

548
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: He's skipping. He's not injured, he's skipping. Sorry, I've never

549
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: fake limped before.

550
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember in The Bad News Bears. God, damn,

551
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: that's such a good movie.

552
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: I gotta revisit it. Yeah, it's been too long.

553
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: It's just so funny. Walter Matth though. It's such a

554
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: seventies thing that could never happen anymore, and in the

555
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: most beautiful way because he's like drinking and smoking and

556
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: then like giving the kids beer and stuff. But the

557
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: kid on the other team who was the little boy,

558
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I loved him so much. Do you remember the I

559
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: think you're too young. But there's a TV show called

560
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Portrait of a what was that fucking Eddie's father? Something

561
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: like that Portrait of Vetti's father. It was it was

562
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: like a seventies kid's TV show about and it was

563
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: the Hulk David Banner, who was the act Bill Bixby played.

564
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: They how do you remember how'd you pull Bill Bixby

565
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: out of here?

566
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Because I was so embarrassed, and I remembered his name

567
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: as the Hulk's name, Yeah, David Banner, I think it was.

568
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: He was a scientist and he's Bilt some shit on

569
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: his pant legs. No, Bill Bixby was the dad. And

570
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: then the kid who played the pitcher on the other

571
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: team or yeah, So it was like the team they

572
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: finally go to play and they are getting good enough

573
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: to actually be good and not the worst, and then

574
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: this kid his dad is the coach, and the dad

575
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: is screaming at everybody in such a prick member. And

576
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: then the very last thing, when they're like tied up,

577
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: he just starts pitching balls on purpose. So he's like

578
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: pitching way high and just standing in and the dad's like,

579
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: come on, get it across the plate, and he's just

580
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: staring at his dad and pitching balls. And his dad

581
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: comes up and he basically pitches the fourth ball and

582
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: walks so that they get the score, so that they

583
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: This is how I'm remembering it. I wonder if this

584
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: is actually how happen.

585
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's a famous movie.

586
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Though it's a famous but it's so old at this point.

587
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: I think it's from nineteen seventy six or seventy five

588
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: or something. But it's just this beautiful moment because it's

589
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: like a thing that had already started happening in kids' sports.

590
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of out of control today. I think maybe

591
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: it's come down the other side. I don't know. I

592
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: don't really spend too much time around kids sports, but

593
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: that acknowledgment that it's like that kid, you're the one

594
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: with the power, you're the one with the ball. You

595
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: can do anything you fucking want. No matter how much

596
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: your dad screams, you can still pitch a ball. And

597
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: this realization this kid oud of like, I don't care

598
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: about this game. In fact, now I want to lose

599
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: the game because I hate you so much. So here

600
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: you go and he just pitches four balls and I

601
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: think the dad comes out to hit him, and then

602
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Walter Mathow maybe he does hit him. It's really intense,

603
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: but it's like so beautiful where it's like kids. Basically,

604
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: that's the whole idea of it. It's like kids being

605
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: empowered to actually do what they want, not what parents

606
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: want them to do, or not what coaches, you know,

607
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: not buying into that whole thing of like your value

608
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: is winning, Your value is a game, like it's not.

609
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: So that sounds like it's That was from Bad News Bears.

610
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: You were just trying to pinpoint the actor from the

611
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: courtship of Eddie's father.

612
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yes, I was pinpointing that the little boy

613
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: who was the pitcher, who has this great face and there,

614
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: hold on a second, I think he may have gone

615
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: on to become a skateboarder. I'm not kidding. Hold on, hold, oh.

616
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: Wait, this is all It's so funny.

617
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I could be making all of this up.

618
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Did he go on to be in No Effects?

619
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh? Is that what it is?

620
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: Where is he one of the kids in Bad News Bears?

621
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: Is I believe fat Mic from No Effects to the

622
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: punk found Really? Yeah?

623
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: It's so all the boys that were home the team

624
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: are now it's their current fixtures. There he is Brandon Cruz.

625
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: There he is there, he is very yep.

626
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: Am I right?

627
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a punk. He became a punk. Look

628
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: at the face. How about an all American seventies child actor.

629
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: Face like that? Oh my god, the.

630
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Little space between his front teeth. Hold on.

631
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: So I love that he was in Bad News Bears

632
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: and became this punk rock star. Yes, it's so perfect.

633
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there look, oh maybe he just has that

634
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: on because he has sotal skateboard clothes on. But maybe

635
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: that's just because it's the fashion and not right.

636
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: It's called being a poser.

637
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Oh, he was in the Dead Kennedys.

638
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: You're kidding men, So like five years later he was

639
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: in the Dead Kennedys.

640
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: He was in the court okay, the courtship of Thatty's father.

641
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: I did say that, I I it just came out

642
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: of my mouth. Bill bixbeed right out.

643
00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Of me.

644
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: If in a panic?

645
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: What did I call it?

646
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: We just knew it was that's something of.

647
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Eddie profile of Eddie's father or anything like that.

648
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: But he isn't courtship like when you're dating. I guess

649
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: I need to watch the movie.

650
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: It was because his dad was a single dad. And

651
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: then they had a lady who was like the nanny and.

652
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: A friend brasher type. Just kidding.

653
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: She was not she was. She was actually Asian American.

654
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Her name was Mioshi Umechi, and she was like very

655
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: proper and stuff. But then you were like, oh, is

656
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Eddie's father going to marry her? You want her to

657
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: because he the little kid loves her, so you're like, oh,

658
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: this would be the perfect family. It's it was one

659
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: of those kind of things. But he was in the

660
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: band doctor No yep, know. And then he became the

661
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: lead singer of The Dead Kennedy's two thousand and one

662
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: to two thousand and three, so post you know, ye, yes, yeah, and.

663
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: We are we are singing that is our closing song,

664
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: moon over marin A County. I'm sure you're familiar with

665
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: by the Dead Kennedy's, a song where i'd simply do

666
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: an ethel Merman impersonation while karate chopping my throat. I

667
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: have to go, ah, that's what I did the whole song,

668
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: not that violently, and that probably didn't sound good to anyone.

669
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: You sounded exactly like Jellabye offered to me. For as

670
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: much as I know Holiday and Calbodia, that's really my.

671
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that's another. They did have some good songs where

672
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: like if a band did them, they would have been

673
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: a popular mainstream song.

674
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: A lot of these the part where so Greg Barrent

675
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: used to have a band with my friend Laura Milligan.

676
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: She was the lead singer, and.

677
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: They used to Monarchs.

678
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Uh. They had a bunch of names.

679
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, gotcha it was I don't know if it.

680
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Was the rating Monarch. So first that's Greg's band. After

681
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I can't remember the name Hi Ball. Anyway,

682
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: they used to cover Holiday in Cambodia, and she, Laura

683
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: was hilarious. She is one of my best friends. But

684
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: she used to do this thing in the pole Pot Park.

685
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: She would pretend like she was letting different parts of

686
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: the audience sing, but we'd be standing in the middle

687
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: of like some shitty club on Peko and there'd be like,

688
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five people there, but she would play

689
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: it like it was like a gigantic concert. So she

690
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: would be like pole and then hold it out for

691
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: everyone to go pot. But we'd all just standing there.

692
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: It was so hilarious.

693
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's great. That's what I'm going to do in

694
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: the chair lift bar up on a snowy mountain. I'm

695
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: going to pretend I'm an arena rocker.

696
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Pull you go, you sing pole, and then hold put

697
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: your hand to your ear and hold the mic out

698
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: and let everyone else sing pot. They'll fucking love you

699
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: for it. You're right, I oh wait, you're not doing

700
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: that song?

701
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: No, but there. I can do that with a number

702
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: of songs once. Once people are singing along, I gotta

703
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: do the hand of the ear and hold the mic out,

704
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: especially when my voice is gone. Yep, that's a trick

705
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: that I've seen. Even because it's fine. I was so

706
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: hard on myself that I my voice isn't it with

707
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: some of these songs I was able to sing in

708
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: like eighth grade in my car. My voice isn't doing

709
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: that anymore. You go and see any popular band, it's

710
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: very rare that their voice has stayed the same that

711
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: whole time, and you see them always holding the mic

712
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: out like during a high part. Yeah, like I love

713
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: the audience.

714
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: They're singing anyway.

715
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'm going to use that. I'm going

716
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: to use that because I as much as I've oddly

717
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, I have a standard cold right now.

718
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: But you've been enjoying it.

719
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: You say I have just because there's no looming is

720
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: what is happening? Is this eating my brain away? My

721
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: brain is working. I simply have the sniffles and I'm

722
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: coughing up phlem not to be graphic, but we're all doctors,

723
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: and I and I and I feel it's nostalgic. I

724
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: haven't had a cold in four years, and it's been

725
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: a reason that's sort of just cancel all my appointment

726
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: except for this one, except for the things that matter.

727
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: Good call, good call, Yeah, thank you.

728
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: And I've just kind of been, you know, drinking fluids

729
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: and having vitamin C. But my voice is enjoy terrible

730
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: timing though, because I sound very.

731
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Gravelly, and uh wait, when's the performance?

732
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm afraid it's Saturday and the second show's been added Sunday.

733
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: My actual birthday.

734
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so after we stop recording this, yes, don't talk anymore,

735
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: no joke, just don't rest your voice.

736
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: My singing coach told me.

737
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: That that's what Tom said.

738
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl, Yeah, that's.

739
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: What Carl said.

740
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

741
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: And then do I'm sure you said, like lemon and honey,

742
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: hot water, you know what I mean. And do warm

743
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: ups and stuff like that, like if you are going

744
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: to do any singing, warm up and do those like

745
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: like vibrate your own voice box.

746
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, did youido noises? That is what I've been doing. Yeah. Yeah,

747
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: you could have a cold.

748
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: You could also have like allergies because of the crazy

749
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: shit that's flying around in La right now, because of

750
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: the rain.

751
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: It sure felt like allergies the first couple of days,

752
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: just sniffles and I but it's full on eut of fever.

753
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: The other night like it's it's but yeah, all these

754
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: things can be allergy. I'm maybe having severe allergies.

755
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: But sure if it's a cold, you know, get the

756
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: mental game going and it's like, well, then that means

757
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you're halfway through this cold. You probably only have two

758
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: days left if.

759
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe three? Right then My only fear is we

760
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: right when I land tomorrow we're rehearsing, and then there's

761
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: a day of rehearsal on Friday. But I'm just going

762
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: to speak on the day before. I'm just going to

763
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: talk the words I you know, so they can practice

764
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: the songs.

765
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

766
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: But but yeah, you're right, yeah, And if my voice

767
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: stays throaty, we'll just switch to doing covers of the

768
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: guy whose name it would be great if I remembered right.

769
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: Now, Darryl Hall, John Oates.

770
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: No, neither Hall nor Oats has ever had a gravelly Oh,

771
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: the guy that things like this, David do Tom Waits

772
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: Waits Wait, wait, I have it. It's on the tip

773
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: of my tongue.

774
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Tom Waits, David, Wait wait.

775
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: We're just gonna stop and say, Okay. The rest are

776
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: Tom Waits covers, and now there is Dead Kennedy's as

777
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Tom Waits. Yeah. Yeah, that might have to be uh

778
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: my fallback position.

779
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: But I'm very keep your keep your hot drink nearby,

780
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: keep your hot honey and lemon based drink nearby.

781
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: I will be using my exactly right thermos. Look at that,

782
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: and I'm exactly throat coat tea, and I'm going to

783
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: go after we're done recording, and I mean this, I'm

784
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: going to Guitar Center. I'm getting Entertainer's Secret throat spray

785
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: nice and it has. Back when I had my tonsils,

786
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: I would just be doing stand up anywhere, and if

787
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: it was winter, I would lose my voice all the

788
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: way and have giant tonsils. And I couldn't find a

789
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: single dentist that would or whatever they're called, uh, that

790
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: would take out my Yes, a doctor, what's the specific tonsil? Doctor? Though?

791
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: That's what I can't remember.

792
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: An anti in your mouth and throat, and sometimes they

793
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: dabble in foot.

794
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: And nose sometimes why yes?

795
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Why did you not become a DNS I? I? Uh,

796
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: it was so hard to get them to take my

797
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: tonsils out. My whole life, I had strapped throat every

798
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: five times a year. Anyway, I discovered this someone told

799
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: me about Entertainer's Secret. It's so funny. It's a throat

800
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: spray with like a film reel on it and some

801
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: theater masks. Yes, and I would lose my voice and

802
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: I'd spray it in there like I was about to

803
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: do a kissing scene like the old guy from Tutsie. Sure,

804
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: but my voice had come back for exactly two minutes,

805
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: and then it would go away and I'd spray again.

806
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: I made it through entire weekends of shows using this

807
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: spray so only available Guitar Center Nice proud sponsor of

808
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: other podcasts that aren't this one.

809
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: We could get them on board. We've got a nice

810
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: sized audience.

811
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 2: If anyone from the entertainer Secret Throat Spray people is listening,

812
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm ready to represent you.

813
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: This is when Chris really loses it. He goes off

814
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: by himself and says, I'm ready to represent you right right.

815
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: This podcast is what's making it possible.

816
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: I really that was a perfect opportunity right there for

817
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: me to say we yeah.

818
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: And he like the old lady in the parking lot,

819
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: open it both.

820
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: Did once I told you about her. We loved her.

821
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: See he's doing it right now. Look at how quickly

822
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: he can adapt. Well. I'm very excited though, because six

823
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: months ago, this hold singing with the band thing was

824
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: just this dream kind of I don't know, I think

825
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. And you took a risk

826
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: and you had fun, they have fun doing it, you

827
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: made friends doing it, and now you're actually doing a thing.

828
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: It's almost like one more it's like skateboarding, like golf.

829
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: These things you're adding to your life and you're actually

830
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: continuing to open yourself up to new opportunities and new performances.

831
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: And I want to be that way. I don't want

832
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: to be closed off.

833
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: You're doing it.

834
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: That's happening. Thank you, Thank yous. I appreciate you recognizing it,

835
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: because I have noticed, and I am happy that I'm

836
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 2: doing these things. But it is also that thing where

837
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm spreading myself thin over a bunch of different things,

838
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: and it's I think you could just a lot of

839
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: these I think they call themselves renaissance people. They end

840
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: up wandering off, you know, kind of lonely, dabbling in

841
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: so many different things that they never they never really

842
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: make it in any of them because they're not spending enough.

843
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: Everyone we know all they do. If they're focused, they

844
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: just focus on that one thing and they become successful.

845
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've always done multiple things. You've always been

846
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: a multipler, and you are successful. So like whatever, you

847
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: can choose to interpret it differently, but like you've worked

848
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: on this podcast and didn't give up on this podcast,

849
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: and booked this podcast, and like was the sound man

850
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: for this podcast and made it happen, and now this

851
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: podcast to beables you to do other things like you know,

852
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: you've put in the work on things and then gotten

853
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: yourself paid on multiple things. You've won golf tournaments and prizes.

854
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: It means a lot when you if I this kind

855
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: of support when it comes from you, you did. You

856
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: gave me a call like this before I did Conan

857
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: many years ago, and it made me suddenly so not nervous,

858
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: like I earn this, yep that I right before I

859
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: went out pulled those curtains open. I was like, oh, no,

860
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: I should be nervous right now. Why am I not nervous?

861
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: And then I decided that last minute to be very

862
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: very nervous. Sure, but yeah, I really appreciate that your support.

863
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: I thank you.

864
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Well. Also, everything we do and the way

865
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: we experience it is a choice. So you can be

866
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: as nervous as you want to be. Usually that means

867
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: you're excited. Like we can interpret it is I'm nervous,

868
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: which means I'm a failure, I'm a fraud. I've done

869
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: that a million times. It's just not worth it. It's

870
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: like you're wrong about that. You have to admit you're wrong.

871
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: You have to admit you put a lens on things

872
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: negatively to because you think it's a coping mechanism. It

873
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: will help you be less disappointed if it doesn't go well.

874
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: And instead of that, you also have the option to

875
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: look at it, be have that feeling, be excited, and

876
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: then use that excitement as the fuel to excel and

877
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: be great, which is the thing you you know you

878
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: do and you have experience with. And the thing that

879
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: so few people understand is that when you see a

880
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: comedian kill it on Conan, it took you know, usually

881
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: about seventy eight hours before that of pure human torture

882
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: to get out there and get that done. Not if

883
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: you're a psychopath like many people we know, but those

884
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: of us who actually are pure comedy sensitivo, you know

885
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: who it comes through us. It's authentic and it's real.

886
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do it, and so the difficulty

887
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: is actually the mark of quality, because it's difficult because

888
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: you care and you're actually talking about yourself, and it's

889
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: real and what you do out there is a real

890
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: experience for you. That's why people love it so much

891
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: when they watch it.

892
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: Well, it's thank you.

893
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: You don't have to be nervous when you're a fucking

894
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: fraud or when you're like when you're a weird creep

895
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: that's just trying to control large groups of people.

896
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: And the noises thing, that's the thing that that's the

897
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: one that confuses me when it is someone that is

898
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: talented and they do not get nervous, and I'm like, what,

899
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: how do you believe in yourself this much? There has

900
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: to be they also must have been murderers at some point.

901
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: Or had screaming dads or like figured out you know.

902
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I think we had similar upbringings where it's like our

903
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: parents left us alone just enough to allow us to

904
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: be independent, right, and then they also work on or

905
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: at least my parents were like those seventies parents were.

906
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: Then we got a little extra being left alone that

907
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: wasn't great because it was it created anxiety and coping

908
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: mechanisms that other people didn't really have to go into.

909
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: So it's like whatever, it's fine because it's like it's

910
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: that idea that then how you know, when people go

911
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: like how do you do that? How do you get

912
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: on stage and tell jokes? Then it's just like because

913
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: of the life experience that I've had.

914
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: Because for four years I had an imaginary friend named

915
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Chuck who followed me around and I would actually speak

916
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: to you know, that's all. It's uh. And my parents

917
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: didn't shame me. They're like, how's Chuck doing? Like, oh,

918
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: he's good, he's good. I wonder when any real children

919
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: will move to my neighborhood. But you're right, the all

920
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: these comics always joke about it, and I've joked about

921
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: it that you're working one hour a night, but no,

922
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: at that one hour that night involves me pacing around

923
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: and doubting myself for myself for two days prior, yep,

924
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: and beating myself up. I really don't enjoy stand up

925
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: until like the middle of a set if it's going well,

926
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: or usually just the end. Once it's over, I'm like,

927
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: that was really enjoyable, but not during.

928
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: It's like you, it's past the third joke, lip, I

929
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: think where you start. No one's good when they very

930
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: first start, because either you go over you go under.

931
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Unless you're doing sets every single night. Usually the first

932
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: joke can either be great or awful. Then you have

933
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: a chance to either recover on the second joke or

934
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: get over confident on the second joke and then really

935
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: bite it. And then there's the third joke where you're like,

936
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: all right, this is my last chance. But if this

937
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: but if that joke goes like either poorly or even medium,

938
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: that's when my like my throat will just tighten and

939
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: then suddenly I'm kind of talking like this and I

940
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: kick it to the end of yeah, yeah, which shit

941
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: like that goes on on stage, and the audience immediately

942
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: gets like a stomach ache, and like they almost want

943
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: to especially if you're when you're a female comic, they

944
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: want to boo you off the stage because I can't

945
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: handle how vulnerable you are right then, And like there's

946
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: those moments where like you have to run those scenarios

947
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: through your head before you do a set because it

948
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: could happen to.

949
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: You, right and it has this and it has I'm like,

950
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm suddenly fifteen years old and you're all mad at.

951
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Me, yep, or the just all the liquid has gone

952
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: out of my upper body. There's no it's dry as

953
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: a bone and there's nothing coming. And I can't keep

954
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: sipping this water because it's actually interrupting me talking.

955
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: I still when I watch I have so many nervous SIPs.

956
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: It's the only time I stay hydrated is when I

957
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 2: want to not be somewhere.

958
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: You have to write that down for like when you're

959
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: actually doing it on stage.

960
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I will. I don't have to do it now,

961
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: but I won't remember.

962
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: You have to do it now. You always have to

963
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: keep That's why you have to keep a post it note,

964
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: a neon post it note nearby.

965
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: I wrote it down, or a version of it that

966
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: I won't understand in an hour. I know if I did,

967
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: if I did a show at at like Largo, would

968
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: you do it?

969
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Of course?

970
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Would you perform entirely? Would you do song? Do you sell?

971
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: That's a yes? Yes? Okay, I'm going to figure it out.

972
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Good luck.

973
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I might just surprise you. I I

974
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: love it if you did scand up again. And if

975
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me if you do music or

976
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: if you tell jokes, I think, deep down, even if

977
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: you aren't admitting it, you miss live performance, and.

978
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: I really I miss it terribly.

979
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.

980
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: It's true. No, No, I've admitted that to you a

981
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and I do have a couple plans.

982
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: I was going I'm really mad this didn't work out.

983
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: I was going to be one of the opening comics.

984
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Jackie Cashin did a show at the the Improv Bar

985
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: whatever that yeah, yeah thing it's called the Lab. Yeah, sorry,

986
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: it's been that long. I haven't been at the Lab.

987
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: So Jackie asked me if I would go do her

988
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: lab show be one of the opening comics, and I

989
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I absolutely will. But then it was

990
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: the twenty first of December and basically I had to

991
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: go to Pedaluma because my sister's like, oh, really, are

992
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: you going to miss the big dinner on the twenty second,

993
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: where I was like wait what, I didn't know there

994
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: was already plans in the work, so I had to

995
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: cancel on her. And I was so bumped because I

996
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: was like, I want to do this really bad. She's like,

997
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: we'll do it a different time. And that's Jackiecasion. God

998
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: bless fucking Jackiecasi. I follow her on TikTok and she

999
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: has some of the funniest fucking jokes, like she's just

1000
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: such a good comic, and I was like, this will

1001
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: be such a great way. I'll be able to watch

1002
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: her and I'll be able to kind of be in.

1003
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: That's like such a great crowd. People that know Jackie

1004
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: that then they fucking like care about comedy and they

1005
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're the good comedy nerds, like the Positive

1006
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: Vibe Comedy Rights. I was really excited to do it,

1007
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: and also I just was like, I need to just

1008
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: start writing bits by the end. Before when I was

1009
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: doing sets before COVID, I just had these like nine

1010
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: like old tweets that I had kind of refurbished in

1011
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: destroy my life, yes, of course, and then I just

1012
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: was like no, no, I just kept doing the same

1013
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: set every time I would do a set, and it

1014
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: made me feel terrible and ashamed because I am from

1015
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: that weird era in the nineties where like you were

1016
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: supposed to do new material every time you did a set.

1017
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think most comics around.

1018
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: I love to stand up like that. Though, Like you

1019
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: had a joke that was about someone rattling the bathroom door.

1020
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: I think you told it differently. I think it was

1021
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: based on a tweet probably, and you told it differently

1022
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: every time, But it was the talking your way through

1023
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: it and the way you were talking about it that

1024
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: made it work. I think that it's okay to do.

1025
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: It is it's just so easy. And you know this

1026
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: ould trick where when you're doing well, No'm like when

1027
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: you're mid set where you haven't written anything new, and

1028
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: you can basically I can see a movie in my

1029
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: head of the dude that's been at the three shows

1030
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: where I've done this same set, who is like Because

1031
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: there's just this brand of comedy fan these days that

1032
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: I am just like there, it's just a different era

1033
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: where they're like they go to tons of shows and

1034
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: they're fanship is like, they're into it like super nerds,

1035
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: and they know when people are doing jokes from old

1036
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: specials and they complain about it and all that energy

1037
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: that's very much like they want to be doing it.

1038
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: So they're putting this energy out other people. And that's

1039
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: all I can think about when I'm on stage is like, well,

1040
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: if one of those people's here, then they they're.

1041
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: Just just one of them. It just be fifty other

1042
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: people that just want to be entertained by you, and

1043
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: that one person will make me do all half biked.

1044
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: It kind of happened the other day at the Lyric.

1045
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: I did an hour long set and I there was

1046
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: a couple of people where I was like, I know

1047
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: they've heard this most of this before. One of them

1048
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: is my own manager, and I'm still let Oh my god,

1049
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: my head, I just wish that.

1050
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard not to do that to yourself. Well,

1051
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing in the world to do to

1052
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: yourself is to let that voice step up and be

1053
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: like bad news. Everyone's disappointed if you Yeah, yeah, mid set,

1054
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: the mid set so dark. But you know, I do

1055
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: have a couple of plans in the works to try

1056
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: to do it again.

1057
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me happy. Yeah.

1058
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Also, it was a I told Flanagan I think it

1059
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: was November and Fred Armison was doing like a Fred

1060
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: Armison and Friends show, and he was like, do you

1061
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: want to come and do Fred show? Because you know

1062
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: we're friends or whatever.

1063
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I really want that. I think you're

1064
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: my way into back into Largos and that's that's one

1065
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: of the reasons I want. And what did you do?

1066
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: I haven't been there for years? Yeah, it's that COVID,

1067
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: it's you know all that.

1068
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, no one's been there for years.

1069
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Really.

1070
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean he opened up a lot sooner than most

1071
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: like larger venues. Yeah, but now he's got a down pat.

1072
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: And what happened with that discussion?

1073
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: You're just it's just oh, they had to they had

1074
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: to move the show for some reason. It was like

1075
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 1: a holiday issue.

1076
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: Man. I if I look back, there are so many

1077
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: things that happen on the twenty first or twenty second

1078
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: in December, and I've had to say note every year,

1079
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: that is the time everyone's like, hey, good news, we

1080
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: got a career opportunity. Amazing show. It's the twenty first

1081
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: and twenty second. I'm going to my family on the

1082
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: nineteenth and nothing can change that. I have to sit

1083
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: with my family and eat candy and watch movies, and

1084
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: it's more important than my career just during those days.

1085
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, but also you have to know that nothing has

1086
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: ever happened that's career changing on the twenty first or

1087
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: twenty second right of December, when literally Los Angeles empties

1088
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: out like a glass of water at night. It's just

1089
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: empty of all human beings.

1090
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: Right. That's why I'm getting the call as everyone else

1091
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: has gone to why does everyone want me around the holidays? Oh,

1092
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: it's just because they're asking everyone.

1093
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah exactly stop booking shows during the those times.

1094
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, would not be fun.

1095
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: That's not the sill. People are like, please. Also, I

1096
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: do have the guilt, and we've talked about this. I

1097
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: just have the guilt of I know there's a million

1098
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: billion people that do stand up and want sets. So

1099
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: I was starting to feel like when I did my set,

1100
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you're not even gonna write and

1101
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: you're not going to try, why are you taking up

1102
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: someone else's spot. There's a youngster that's trying to be

1103
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: an up and comer, and I'm just kind of like,

1104
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: it's like a person that won't leave their table at

1105
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: a busy restaurant like that.

1106
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I guess you can. I mean, I guess I think

1107
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: that sometimes as well. Yeah, but it's hard. I know.

1108
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: It's every time I do a show, the nice people

1109
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: that listen to our podcast after come up to me

1110
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: and ask when you're going to perform again. It is

1111
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: the first or second question out of everyone's mouth, and

1112
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: I just say, I'm working on it, but I don't you.

1113
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: Know that, and you truly are. I mean, I do

1114
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: appreciate your constancy about it. I just I also think

1115
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just my uh. I think it's post COVID night

1116
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: I have to break out of that feeling, you know,

1117
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: that feeling of like the last show I did was

1118
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: bad or whatever, where it's like who gives a shit

1119
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: at this point? Who really gives a shit about anything

1120
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: right at all?

1121
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I haven't fully broken out of it,

1122
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: or it's still in my head that I haven't. I'm

1123
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: still rusty. That's yeah, Like the damage of taking that

1124
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: much time off is you know, like the heartache after

1125
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: a six month relationship lasting three years. It's the same

1126
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: with comedy.

1127
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Wait, so you didn't break up. You should have? Then

1128
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: you just took two and a half years to break up.

1129
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I broke up with a stand up around the

1130
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: time COVID hit and uh, And even though we're now

1131
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: seeing each other as friends, I'm still in love with

1132
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: the old relationship we once had with them far more romantic.

1133
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, and looking back where it's like and I

1134
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: was hotter, I used to do this better. There's like

1135
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: all there's so many things that weren't standing in the way.

1136
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: It was exciting and new.

1137
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: The last time I was going at stand up, I

1138
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: didn't have progressive lenses, a laundry cart and I used

1139
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: to remember to zip up the front of my trousers,

1140
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: and I never called them trousers.

1141
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: No, No, I have aged so much. You are eighty six.

1142
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: You should ask that lady at Lasson's parking lot out

1143
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: on a date because you're the same age as her.

1144
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure i'll learn how to play bridge. I don't

1145
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: know what it is, but let's do it. I took

1146
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: my laundry cart down to the grocery store and put

1147
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: groceries in it a car. I had my own, my

1148
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: own grocery cart.

1149
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I brought it smart. Then you don't have to like

1150
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: hack it back pretending you're cool. It's just not just

1151
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: beside stuff that whole need.

1152
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm embracing it.

1153
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: I think a rolling grocery cart is a great idea

1154
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: because I'm that person has like four bags on each

1155
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: arm and I'm just trying to get to like the

1156
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: kitchen counter. It's the it's such a and the ass.

1157
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. I'm like, oh, it's good

1158
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: exercise to do one arms, shoulders, shrugs on my seven

1159
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: block walk home. What am I doing? No?

1160
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: That is actually really good. That's a good isolated isometric muscular.

1161
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: I really do. As I walk home, I'm rolling my

1162
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: shoulders like this. You can't see it, but right now

1163
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm showing Karen how I roll my shoulders so my

1164
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: croceries and I'm holding you weird.

1165
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: If this guy is walking towards you on the sidewalk,

1166
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you would truly jwalk to get away.

1167
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which did you know is no longer against the law.

1168
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: That's right, Thank you Los Angeles municipal voters. Bem, we

1169
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: get to walk all the fuck over the street now.

1170
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's as long as it seems safe. They're

1171
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: just like, who cares anymore, we don't want your money.

1172
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what changed. Uh.

1173
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: I think they were like, no cop is spending their

1174
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: time doing stuff like this, so we might as well

1175
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: just take it off the books officially, although I will

1176
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: say when I lived in Burbank, my friend Vicki would

1177
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: come over and we would do like an hour walk

1178
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: before work every morning. And one morning we were walking.

1179
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: We had walked all through to Local Lake and we

1180
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: were walking over to the Starbucks like as a final pass,

1181
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: and we were at that is it Riverside or Alameda?

1182
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: You know how the two come into a y right

1183
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: by Bob's Big Boy. So there's a street here, street here,

1184
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: and then it becomes one, it becomes riverside. So we

1185
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: were over at the crosswalk and it's a light and

1186
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: a whole thing. It's pretty busy road, but it was

1187
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: seven in the morning, so we were just like, we're

1188
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: just like checking checking, We're going to run across. Suddenly

1189
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: there's a motorcycle cop and he's rolling toward us, pointing

1190
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: his finger in the air and going back. And then

1191
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: we went and stood on the We had to go

1192
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: back across the crosswalk and stand in the street, and

1193
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: then he gave us a lecture about how many people

1194
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: get killed, this is very dangerous, don't ever do this again,

1195
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: and he was It was so infuriating. I was like,

1196
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: I was so fearous. I'm like, got it, thank you,

1197
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: got it immediately, so rebellious, but it was like, we

1198
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: get it. We did a thing that was wrong. Now

1199
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: you're making us wait for a light and there's literally

1200
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: not a car for miles in any direction. Got it?

1201
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Also power problem.

1202
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm not a child. And also no puppy guarding that's

1203
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: what he was doing.

1204
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: What's up?

1205
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought maybe that was just region old where

1206
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: I grew up. That's where where you're just standing there

1207
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: waiting to catch someone, usually in a sport or something.

1208
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, It's like, you can't just stand there and

1209
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: wait for me, Like if you're let's say it's a

1210
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: game of tag where you have to touch a pole

1211
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: or something. I have to invent a game to explain this.

1212
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: But you can't just hang out by the pole waiting

1213
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: for that, right. That's puppy gard cheating. And I don't

1214
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: know where the puppy comes in.

1215
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: What the uh, I've never heard that before.

1216
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: No, I have a feeling. It's just what if it's

1217
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: something only I said and I saw it in a dream.

1218
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: You know how we.

1219
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: All used to hear you and Chuck this was meet

1220
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: you and Chuck and everybody else used to say it

1221
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: all the time.

1222
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: Not only did I have an imaginary friend Chuck, I

1223
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: had six imaginary puppies, and it was Chuck. I had

1224
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: to guard it all time to tag them, so I

1225
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: would guard the puppies. I just realized where it came from.

1226
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: We we've gone over. That was the easiest, most fun.

1227
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: We're very good at podcasting.

1228
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really just a second nature for us.

1229
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: You know why, because we're only talking about ourselves that

1230
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: entire episode, we both talked only about it.

1231
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: You know what. No, we we gave a shout out

1232
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: to that the older lady that is my hero. We

1233
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: talked about her and then yes, and then we each

1234
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: talked about ourselves.

1235
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: Yes, wait wait, we also talked about.

1236
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: Brandon Cruz, Brandon cris So. We talked about singer and

1237
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: vocal coach Carlbine plant Based Hot Crazy band.

1238
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: Plant Based.

1239
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: I will be at Hot Crazy on February ninth when

1240
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: I get back. Hell yeah, Birthday concert series doing Tom

1241
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: Waits covers.

1242
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Hell. Yes, well, good look at your show.

1243
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you for the supportive

1244
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: words and making me I actually you have a special

1245
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: way of doing that. And now I'm like, yeah, I'm

1246
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: just going to own it and have fun and pretend

1247
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm in an arena rocker and it's going to be

1248
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: great and funny. Yes, it's it's a comedy show.

1249
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, really, watch some old punk live concerts and

1250
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: do shit that those lead singers do, like go stand

1251
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: right at the speaker. Yeah you know what I mean.

1252
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: Don't they do a bunch of shit like that? Or

1253
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: just like you know, let the front roasting put the

1254
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: mic down into the crowd is.

1255
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: Like putting your leg up on a monitor does actually

1256
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: help you isolate all the air. Like Carl was telling me,

1257
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: like keep your legs slightly bent. They aren't spreading their

1258
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: legs and bending them just to look intimidating on stage.

1259
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: A lot of it is vocal tricks.

1260
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: So you don't clench up, don't keep it loose. Keep

1261
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: it loose.

1262
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing I learned from Carl. Don't clench up.

1263
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: I flex every muscle in my body. What was I thinking?

1264
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: No, you have to be like one of those weird

1265
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: floppy air tube guys in front of a Carlo.

1266
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a used car lot balloon man,

1267
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: long and tall and slender and folding throughout my torso

1268
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: and smiling. Don't forget to smile now. Jim Lindberg, who

1269
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: is the lead singer of Pennywise, and we became peals

1270
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 2: when I worked at Fuel and I kind of stayed

1271
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: in touch. I posted a video of me singing and

1272
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: that was the first thing he said, Hey, good tone,

1273
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: good pitch, good singing strung, but what the hell are

1274
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: you doing with your arms? Take my seminar this weekend

1275
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: Punk rock arms, and he wrote all these fake like

1276
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: sign up times and everything. It was all in a

1277
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: comment section. He took it super seriously, and I think

1278
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: people thought he was being serious, but I did. In

1279
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: the video, I'm literally just have my arms down next

1280
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: to my sides like a kid waiting to get picked

1281
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: at recess, Like it's really funny.

1282
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: So you're right, So wait, can you just give us

1283
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: a couple examples of punk rock?

1284
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean you have to say the lyrics and make

1285
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: a fist and pump your fists to the consonants and

1286
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: the rhythm of the the what you're singing. Yes, okay,

1287
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: it's obviously hard to do while you're talking. That's why

1288
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: what just happened then was stuttering. I would not be

1289
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: stuttering if I wasn't trying to pump my fists or

1290
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: just or just having your arms raised, or holding the

1291
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: mic stand and having my elbows lifted up, just anything

1292
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: other than yes, please pick me for third recess kickball arms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't show them any nervousness because there you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be like, this is fun, guys, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: And that is also about that is the zen trick too,

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Speaker 1: where it's like You don't think about what they're thinking

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Speaker 1: about you. You think about giving them what they want,

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Speaker 1: giving them a good time, giving them like here's you're

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Speaker 1: gonna love this. We're going to play these songs you love.

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Speaker 1: We're giving it to you, You're not taking anything from.

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Speaker 2: It, and I'm going to do whatever you are. There

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Speaker 2: is in feige, full confidence, and that includes my arms.

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Speaker 2: That's time you can really see my personality in my arms.

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Speaker 2: The last performance and this time confident arms that the

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Speaker 2: kind that can sell a car.

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Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to put one fist on your hip.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that as you sing like

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Speaker 1: turn maybe do like a almost like you're kind of

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Speaker 1: doing a Greek freeze or is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: You know where you're kind of like it would be

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Speaker 1: like a walk like an Egyptian but instead of trying

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Speaker 1: to do Egyptian arms, but one fist on a hip

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Speaker 1: into profile. It's kind of a yeah. It's like a

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Speaker 1: peev Herman slightly yeah thing. It's presentational. You're saying, here,

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Speaker 1: I have a style. I'm making a choice.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny, but I have When we're done here,

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Speaker 2: I am going to well, first time, gonna get my

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Speaker 2: throat spray, and then I'm going to look at body

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Speaker 2: positions and old punk rock videos on YouTube, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: You know what you could do at the guitar Center.

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Speaker 1: You could ask any cashier because they are also a

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Speaker 1: lead singer of a band, and you can be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what are yours? Hey, what are some pretty solid armjusters

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Speaker 1: you like to use as a singer. You will get answered.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if you're kidding or not,

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Speaker 2: but I think I actually will.

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Speaker 1: I don't either, because I think it's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: It just reminds me of that time Brandon Malson I

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Speaker 2: got on stage at a Scorpions show and he did

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Speaker 2: the proper headbanging as security pulled him off stage, and

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Speaker 2: I did the confusingly did the robot. I've told that

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Speaker 2: story before, but it's an example now of what I

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Speaker 2: just don't know what to do with my body. I

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Speaker 2: panicked and I started doing the robot. I went electric boogloo,

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Speaker 2: and I just should have gone I don't I think.

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Speaker 1: People would like it if you did the robot. In

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Speaker 1: this scenario, you'd have to wait till the ends, like

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Speaker 1: gain the good faith, yes, and then save the Robot

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Speaker 1: for when things are.

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Speaker 2: Going right, I think you're right, then I can actually

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Speaker 2: express myself. Yeah, okay, I have a lot of studying

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Speaker 2: to do. Thank you Karen for the words of encouragement.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm proud of you. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: I think going into music is always a great option

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Speaker 1: for kid. We should we should always do it. It's

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Speaker 1: really smart.

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Speaker 2: I think the refreshing thing is going to be uh

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Speaker 2: if we do get paid, and I'm not sure if

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Speaker 2: we will splitting that with three other people, that'll be

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Speaker 2: a nice refreshing. Oh. I don't know how bands do it.

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to my friend who was in a band,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what hotel do you guys stay

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Speaker 1: out when you are in because we had just been

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Speaker 1: on tour, and that guy's like, are you fucking kidding me?

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Speaker 1: We were in a van and I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're splurging with an Airbnb cabin. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: this is I'm I'm this is uh, I'm spending money

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Speaker 2: on this, but it's important to me.

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Speaker 1: It's for charity. Wait, so sorry, you're doing that this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leaving tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, have the best time. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the best time.

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Speaker 2: You know how to say later, but I had a

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Speaker 2: good time.

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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, perfect, I'm so glad to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, it was great. Thanks for all the advice.

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Speaker 2: It all worked good.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. I love hearing it.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening to Do You Need a Ride?

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Speaker 1: D y n A.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 1: Produced by Annalise Nelson.

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Speaker 2: Mixed by Edson Choi.

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Speaker 1: Our talent booker is Patrick Cootner.

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Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and Facebook at dinar podcast That's d y n ar Podcast.

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Speaker 2: For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Oh You're welcome. Hancock