WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Deathmoon 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.400 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:15.520 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.599 Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And Oh, I 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.239 feel a cool Pacific breeze ruffling the hairs on my 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.840 forearm because it's time to find the Beast of the 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.680 beaches in in Uh I stalled out there. We're doing 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.640 a Hawaii movie, that's right. Um Now, when when we 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.440 say Hawaii movie, what do you think of me? Maybe 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.800 you think about classic Hawaii dramas or Elvis movies. Maybe 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.080 you think of big budget films like Jurassic Park, where 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.479 they need a lush jungle environment, maybe some flyovers, so 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.680 they go to the Hawaiian islands. But you might be wondering, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:55.800 where are the b movies? Where specifically are the monster movies. Yeah, 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.520 this is a really good question. So a lot of 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.360 movies and TV shows are shot in Hawaii because it's 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.440 a it's a convenient place to get a tropical looking 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.640 jungle location, but they're not actually set in Hawaii. I 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.559 was trying to think of movies that are set in Hawaii, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.360 especially in in our sort of wheelhouse, the closest. The 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.520 first thing that came to my mind actually is do 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.400 you ever see Big Jim McClain. No, but I think 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.120 I think I remember a Mystery Science Theater jokes about it. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:28.400 It was a John Wayne anti communist propaganda thriller where 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.000 he plays I think John Wayne is like an agent 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.040 for the House on American Activities Committee, um, and he's 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.240 just running around punching comy rats in Hawaii. Okay, No, 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.319 I haven't seen that, but that does sound part of 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.480 the course in terms of the whole Hawaii movies that 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.080 you find. Yeah. The other main thing in terms of 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.040 Hawaii B movies, I was trying to think of Hawaii 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.120 horror movies. There's almost nothing that came to mind except 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:57.280 I think Snakes on a Plane begins in Hawaii. But 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.960 the but the the thing that really comes to my 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.240 with Hawaii B movies is not be horror or be 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.880 sci fi, but be action movies. They're like seemingly a 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.640 million action movies in the eighties set in Hawaii that 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.520 are about drug dealers, and they're the sort of like 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:19.760 Bikinian machine guns sub genre. Okay, yeah, yeah, the Bikinian 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.400 machine guns genre being one that can basically take place anywhere. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.639 But it helps if it's a if it's essentially a 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.560 vacation uh type environment, if it's tropical, if there's if 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.320 their palm trees in the background right right. The bad 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.520 guys always Dan Hadeia or somebody like that as a 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.800 as a drug kingpin. Yeah, so I was. I was 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.400 recently in Hawaii, and while I was there, I was 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.440 pondering this because this is what I do on on trips, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.960 and I wonder what what kind of monster movie was 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.160 filmed here? You know? And uh, I actually I found one. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.640 I found a good one, or a good selection for 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.040 weird house cinema. It is a werewolf movie set in 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.200 Hawaii and filmed excl elusively in Hawaii, entirely on the 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.160 island of Kawaii. Wow. So I don't know if I'd 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.920 go with you on good one, but it is a 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.079 good selection. It gives us a lot to talk about, well, 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.960 you know, being that I think it is the I mean, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.720 if you don't count snakes on the plane, and I 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.160 don't really count snakes on the plane. Given that it's 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:21.600 like the only monster movie, and given the wide um uh, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.360 the wide swath of quality that it could occupy, I 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.320 feel like it lands in a comfortable place like it's 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.680 it's watchable. Uh, it has decent actors in it, it's 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.320 competently directed. Uh sort of said, yeah, I mean it's 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.880 it's it's we'll discuss here. It's a TV movie, so 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.280 it has that that TV competency to it, you know, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.520 like that there were network checks in place here. Um. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.800 So yeah, I feel like it. It passes the litmus 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.840 test um and it it is I think the best 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.080 Hawaii monster movie. I challenge anyone to show me a 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.240 better one out of those Elvis movies count No, no, well, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.960 those are great examples. They they're not monster movies. But yes, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.320 two of of the Elvis Hawaii movies are of particular 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:12.320 note here in Blue Hawaii in ninety six Paradise Hawaiian style. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.720 They were shot on the Isle of Kauai, specifically at 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.400 Coco Palms Resort, which was a famous resort of the 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.080 day with all sorts of Hollywood ties and controversy due 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.880 to ancestral land claims by Native Islanders. Uh this, uh, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.760 this is actually the location the filming location of our 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.360 movie today, our Wearwolf film was filmed at Coco Palms Resort. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.080 You see it almost all the time in the film. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.520 Um the ruins of it are still around the day 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.880 because it was it was destroyed by Hurricane and Ikey 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.159 in the most powerful hurricane to strike Hawaiian recorded history, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.880 and as of this recording, it has never been rebuilt. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.240 There have been some efforts and some plans, but nothing 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.480 has come to pass, so it just remains ruins. This 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.680 is funny because some of the bad Hawaiian action movies 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:06.400 I've seen feature ruins of a multi story building that 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.560 looks kind of like this. I wonder if those things 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.040 were also shot here. Well, it's kind of like when 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.520 we're talking about in our our Florida movie trilogy that 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.920 you have, you have any kind of place that has 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.160 a very um in a very hot climate, and you know, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.880 proximity to the ocean and a vacation industry, you're gonna 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.160 end up with these kind of ruins there and and 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.960 and that's just irresistible to filmmakers, especially if you're you 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.320 need some sort of lonely location for your monsters or ghosts. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.040 I guess so. But but we should be clear that 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.400 in this movie that we're talking about today, the resort 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.440 is still active and intact. It is not it is 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.359 not a ruin like this, it's a place with the 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.680 golf course. In fact, it is that they show off 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.320 many aspects of the resort, almost as if maybe the 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.000 resort was was paying to be in the film or something. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.279 I'm not actually alleging that, but well, it's prominently featured 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.000 in the credits. But but again, there were Hollywood connects 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.360 and there. I think it was kind of like, you know, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.400 a number of movies have been shot here, so clearly 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.839 this was the place to shoot your movie. So this movie, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.760 I don't think we actually gave the top line yet. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.200 It is called Death Moon, and like many made for 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.159 TV movies for the late seventies early eighties, this is 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.640 a very title first kind of thing. We've we've talked 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.359 about poster first type movies, title first type movies. This 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.240 fits right in there. I am convinced that there was 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.840 a title before there was a script. It was like, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.359 give me a TV movie called Death Moon, and the 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.279 writers said, okay, boss, yeah, yeah, a TV movie. It 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.360 originally aired. I looked this up May thirty one, seventy eight, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.960 in the nine pm time slot on CBS, following an 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.279 episode of The Incredible hahul So this is a Wednesday 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.680 night TV werewolf movie. Now, if you speak English but 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.960 not Dutch, an easy way to make any film more 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.960 amusing is to watch it with Dutch subtitles, which we 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.680 did because the version that we found had had them 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.920 from I guess maybe it was a Dutch TV broadcast. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.080 I'm not sure, but the but the great thing about 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.799 Dutch is if you're an English speaker, you won't understand 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.680 most of it, but you get a few cognates that 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.840 are quite amusing. And so the first thing I learned 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.640 upon watching Death Moon was that the Dutch translation for 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.200 the English word workaholic is work beast w e r 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.720 K b e E s T. I think technically would 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.840 be like work based, but you know, work beast. It's 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.200 what's for dinner. Yes, this this was very exciting for 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.960 me as well, because on one level, it's it's perfect, 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.960 Like if it's it actually makes the movie better to 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.760 have the term work beast thrown in there, because it's 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.760 about a workaholic who goes on vacation and turns into 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.880 a werewolf. Uh so it's it's perfect to think of 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.400 him as a work beast. Um, do you think it 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.120 was trying to say something I don't know. I mean, 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.400 I mean, I imagine, you know, when you translate a 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.080 film and you do the subtitles, you have a certain 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.360 amount of leeway, and maybe that was part of it. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.600 They were like, you know, we could they could have 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.200 just gone with a straight translation of of Workaholic perhaps 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.120 or some other translation, you know, but they realized work 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.960 Beast was perfect. Uh so you know, you know, tip 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.600 of the hat to whoever did these Dutch subtitles back 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.920 in the day. Okay, so the reason you picked this 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.080 movie out is because it's basically the only be monster 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.840 movie that is set in Hawaii that you could find. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.080 But the other thing that's important to talk about with 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.679 it is it's a It's a great example of a form, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:34.000 which is the late seventies made for TV movie. Like 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.640 late seventies and early eighties made for TV movies are 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.600 very interesting to me in a lot of ways. One 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.520 that always comes to my mind when I think about 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.880 other sort of prototype examples of this is the nine 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.800 four Wes Craven directed movie Invitation to Hell, which is 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.680 about a family who like moves to a planned community 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.200 I think because the dad gets a new job and 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.400 they try to join a country club, but it's actually 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.080 run by eight. Okay, that sounds about right for you know, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.160 some of Wes Craven's work that was it at least 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:11.040 got into a shallow amount of social commentary. You know, yeah, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.120 uh and and maybe it's just me, I wonder what 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.120 you think about about this. It seems to me that 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.360 a thing that a lot of these late seventies early 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.800 eighties made for TV horror movies have in common is 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.000 that they are somewhere between a regular low budget feature 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.440 horror film and one of those like social trend segments 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.559 on sixty minutes and by the ladder. I mean, it's 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.400 kind of hard to define, but they often have this 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.840 element of a segment on sixty minutes that would be 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.079 like you may have noticed more urban professionals moving from 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.640 the East Coast to the Bay Area. That's because of 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.559 a burgeoning new industry based on this known as a semiconductor. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.760 They're used in everything from calculators to clock radios, and 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 you know, and like uh and and so that they 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.360 base a movie around that, it often just feels like 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.520 it has this ephemeral connection to some kind of trend 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.320 of that people might be observing or talking about that week. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.720 I feel I feel what you mean. And also the 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.960 idea that this movie in particular came out on a 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.840 Wednesday night, just you know, just out in the middle 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.079 of nowhere, and then it's gone. You know. It's very 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.240 ephemeral in that sense. Yeah, yeah, And that they often 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.040 feel like they've got some kind of very loose news 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:31.600 peg or they often feel like, um, like they partially 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.679 exist to educate you about a subject, like a particular 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.480 place or you know, so in this example, it could 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.720 be the Hawaiian island that's talking about. Though, I think 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.319 whatever you would learn from this movie would be entirely wrong, right, Yeah. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.640 About the only thing you could learn that would be 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.880 correct is like, here's this resort. Like I'm actually looking 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.080 at this resort, and I could at the time, I 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.120 could travel there and see the same things that are 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.920 werewolf sees. But like, if you're a credulous you could 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.640 get the impression that this movie is may be teaching 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:05.480 you something about like Polynesian religious traditions or something, which 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.880 again I don't think it is. It absolutely is not. Um. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.079 I will say there are some some nice scenes of 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.439 them driving around, uh that that at least a little 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.600 bit give you an idea of the beautiful landscape there. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.839 And then also there's some neat there's some neat scenes 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.480 of them walking around downtown in a little town there 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:29.480 in Kauai, which, especially given that it's the late nineties seventies, uh, 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.000 it feels like a time capsule, and ultimately, like this 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.839 whole movie feels like a time capsule, especially when you're 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.319 watching a VHS transfer from a like a Dutch or 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.839 European VHS release, um, you know, from back in the day. 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.640 Because I don't think we've stressed this yet. But I 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.200 don't think you can get this film anywhere today legitimately, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.319 I think, I mean, the best you can do is 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.200 you can find it where we found it on YouTube, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.679 where I think it's been uploaded since for people to 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.880 to share and enjoy. But yeah, a DVD, a Blu ray, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.840 I don't think it's ever happy and I'd love, I'd 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.000 love for it to happen, but yeah, I think this 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.600 it remains this kind of echo from the past. Another 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.079 thing that's extremely common about these late seventies early eighties 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.920 made for TV thrillers is that they pretty much all 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.360 have something like an elevator pitch that you could deliver 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.560 very succinctly. There the what's the name for that format? 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.440 It's like Dracula in Miami or something, you know, just 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.880 like X in Y Yeah, and and and in that 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.600 respect it fits nicely into um into a like a 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.520 TV promo, you know, Uh, stay tuned after incredible, incredible 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.120 hawk for Death Moon, what happens if a if a 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.600 werewolf lands on a holiday in Hawaii, that sort of thing. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.320 And then you're watching the film and I will say 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.440 I tried really hard to find such a clip to 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.080 find like a network trailer for this movie, and I couldn't. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.439 I could not find anything. Uh So, if anyone out 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.600 there has it on some like old VHS or something, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.040 I sent it to us because I'd like to hear it. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.200 So we couldn't find a trailer or promo of any mine, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.160 but maybe we can give you just a little bit 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.400 of audio from the film. Let's do it. That was 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:10.520 Lieutenant Court from the police. I wanted to know if 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.200 I treading think during the night not a struggle? Did 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.880 you now? I was out of it again? I crashed. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:28.320 Well are you all right now? I am? But what 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.120 what is it? H? The lieutenant didn't tell me this, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.079 but I overheard a couple of his men talking in 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.680 she was torn apart, torn apart. I don't know what 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:48.240 you just heard, presumably something really enticing. UM uh yeah, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.080 I'll be excited to find out what it was. But yeah, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.280 let's go ahead and get into the people who brought 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.319 this film to life. First up, the director Bruce Kessler 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.400 born Kesler. Really he has the late twentieth century TV pedigree. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.319 He directed episodes of The Monkeys, Mission, Impossible, Coultrack, The 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:11.000 night Stalker, Barnaby Jones, Chips, night Rider, you name it, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.600 just just about any if you watched Mystery Science Theater 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.400 back back in the nineties, just about any old TV 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.040 show that the Joel or and or Mike would reference 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.640 and you wouldn't know as a child what those shows were, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.160 but you laughed anyway. Like all those shows, Kessler had 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.000 his his fingers in um. He even directed an episode 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:34.120 of The Master Ak Master Ninja starring Levan Cliff, which 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.720 there was like a movie cutoff that was featured on 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.640 Mystery Science Theater, I think earlier in his career, So 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.080 a lot of the TV work is in the seventies 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.280 and the eighties, but earlier in his career he did 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.320 a couple of exploitation films. Yeah, he directed the nineteen 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.280 sixty eight biker exploitation film Angels from Hell, as well 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.880 as a film that I haven't seen, but it has 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.880 a certain um uh, it has a certain mystique about it. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:03.040 Nine Simon King of the Witches, which starred Andrew Pine. Yeah. 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.880 I haven't seen this either, but I've read about it. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.280 It is supposedly a kind of hippie culture expose that 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.880 was promoted as like a Manson family type film to 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.640 cash in on that panic. But but it wasn't really 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.760 about that. It's just about like a guy who believes 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.960 he can do magic and he ends up hanging out 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.120 with hippies. Yeah, yeah, I think that's pretty much the vibe. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.840 But I was poking around in Bruce Kessler's career and 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:31.040 found some some very interesting recurring themes. So one was 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.920 that Kessler also directed a Christmas episode of the show 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.320 t J. Hooker, remember the detective show starring um William Shatner, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.760 and the the episode was called Sleigh Ride s L 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.480 A Y, which is the source of any images you 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 may have seen of William Shatner in a Santa suit. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.120 I've attached one for you to look at here, Rob, 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.680 he looks the Santa is not happy. Yeah, he's intense. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.000 And then in the same year, so these are both 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.520 nineteen eighty three, you mentioned that he did episodes of 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.480 Night Right or his Christmas themed episode of night Rider 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.840 called Silent Night k and I g H T. I 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.760 was unable to discover if Hasselhoff ever dressed up as 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.400 bell Snickel in this one, but he is he? In 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.920 eighty three, he did two different Christmas episodes of cop shows, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.680 So I want to know the story behind that. Did 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.520 he what did he? He's like, Oh, I've got a 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.960 Christmas guy this year, you know, look up with all 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.560 the Santa suits and everything you need. Or maybe he's 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.800 just leaning into Christmas. Yeah, it's just like I'm in 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.960 the I'm in the spirit. Give me some give me 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.400 some Christmas episodes, right like he got ah, he ate 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.080 a bad candy Cane and then he just couldn't stop. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.880 But in addition to Kessler's TV work and his early 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.080 exploitation movies, it seems like in the late seventies he 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.400 went on a minor binge of made for TV cinema. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.040 So this was like seventy seven seventy eight, including this 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.320 beauty I came across called Cruise Into Terror from seventy eight. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.960 I'm going to read the IMDb synopsis and Egyptian stark 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.560 cophagus that is, cargo on a pleasure cruise ship has 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.200 a secret. It contains the son of Satan, and its 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.080 effects start to make the ship's passengers behave Strangely, Now 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.360 that that lines up rather interestingly well with our movie today, 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:22.359 like vacation, like typical stereotypical American vacation plus classic movie monster. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.840 What do you know? I mean, you're right on the money. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.600 I looked this up, except that this movie looks even 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.040 more dreadful than than than the werewolf in Hawaiian movie. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.920 Cruise Into Terror has on its side Ray Milan, who 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.960 played the nasty old creep in Frogs, Remember the old 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.239 man who's yeah yeah, yelling at frogs towards the end, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.159 ye right, And so in this movie. I found it. Also, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.160 this has been ripped and put up on the internet. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.600 So I was poking around and Cruise into Terror and uh, yeah, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.119 it just looks awful. But there was a very funny 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.760 scene of Ray Milan yelling at a sarcophagus. Al right, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.919 well that at yeah, it's like I don't know if 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.840 it doesn't look fully watchable. But the scenes towards the 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.360 end where it's like a bad copy of the King 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.840 tut sarcophagus and he's just you know, he's like holding 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.040 an axe and being like you've haunted me for thirty years. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.560 Oh wow. Alright, well, let's talk about the writers here briefly. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:24.359 J Benson and George Shank. Benson was mostly a career 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.800 TV producer, and Shank did a lot of TV production 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.439 work as well, but but wrote a lot more. And 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.440 when I say he wrote, we're talking forty five episodes 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.280 of n C I S which you may not watch, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.480 but somebody in your family watches it. I assure you. Uh. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.080 He also served as ep on in C I S, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.480 and he co wrote ninety six Future World, a sequel 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.560 to Westworld, is in C I S. The one that 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.359 has the it's like a lab and there's a goth lady. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.240 I think, so yeah, and it has um Oh, I 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.879 can't remember his name. George Harmon said his name Mark Harmon. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.200 I think Mark Harmon's in it. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.600 not sure I know who that is. Yeah, I don't 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.200 know this show. I've only seen it on while visiting relatives. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.199 Is it about goths who solve crimes? No, there's just 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.520 a goth on the team, on the tech team. There's 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.680 one god. It is a team including a goth who 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.920 solves crimes. Yes, okay, I think it stands for National 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:25.240 Crimes in Space or anyway it exists. And yeah, so yeah, 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.240 I mean it's a highly successful show, and and one 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.919 of the writers of Of of Death Moon went on 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.720 to be a part of it, so we know we're 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.560 in good hands. Yeah. Well, shall we talk about our 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.119 our actors then, right? Okay, So the main character in 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.639 this movie is a work beast named Jason Palmer, and 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.240 he has played by this guy, Robert Foxworth, who I 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.640 don't think I was really familiar with. Yeah, he uh, 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.960 you know, after I started looking into him and I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.120 I totally know this guy. But when I first encountered 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.600 our leisure suit wearing hero here, I wasn't sure i'd 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.280 seen him before. He just kind of looked like some 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.440 different people. But he's perhaps best known to modern film 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.960 fans as the voice of Ratchet in the Transformers movies, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.520 which I don't even know what ratchet sounds like, so 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:14.679 I don't know if that's a good thing or a 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.480 bad thing. Well, unfortunately, all this is doing is making 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.880 me imagine other Transformers voice actors in this lead role, 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.480 so like Peter Cullen, the guy who does Optimus Prime, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.040 or or oh you know that, you really could have 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.480 gotten a good movie out of the guy who does 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.879 the voice of Star Scream turning into a werewolf. At anyway, 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.080 it's a major film, so good for for Foxworth, but 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.360 also he uh for I guess for our older viewers, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.800 you might recognize him as the character Chase on the 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.520 primetime soap opera Falcon Crest, which ran from one through seven. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.880 He also played Bernard at Chinawith on six Ft Under 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.800 I don't think I watched enough six Ft Under two 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.199 to catch him on that, and he also had a 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.600 recurring role on The West Wing m but he also 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.040 has on The West Wing um he was one of 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.600 these characters that popped up for like three or four episodes, 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.280 I think, so I'm assuming he played a politician or 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.400 maybe a maybe a journalist, but I can't say for sure. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:17.840 Senator George Montgomery. Okay, I'm not all right, Okay, but 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.280 he also has some strong TV genre credentials. He played 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.959 Victor Frankenstein in the nineteen seventy three TV movie, and 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:30.000 he guest starred in sequest DSV Babylon five, Star Trek, 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.800 Deep Space nine, and Star Trek Enterprise. He was also 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.639 in the film's Damien Omen two and was the lead 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.680 in nineteen seventy nine prophecy the Mutant Bear picture. Oh 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.639 I never saw that one. Uh. And the thing the 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.840 most recent thing that I definitely saw him in he 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.120 was in a really fun episode of The Outer Limits 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.480 from the nineties in which he played a bunker bound 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.399 US president during an alien attack, like a very unpleasant 0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:00.560 US president, you know, it's very grumpy and demanding, uh, 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.640 and he's trying to deal with the fact that the 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.520 world is being attacked by aliens and you didn't know 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:08.000 if you should trust the aliens, trust his advisors, etcetera. 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.800 A fun episode. Uh. Well, I will say in this movie, Uh, 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:13.800 I don't know if this can really be chalked up 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.000 to to Foxworth as an actor, but the character he 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:21.080 plays in this film really has no identifiable vices or 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.879 virtues except for the fact that he's a work beast. 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.360 That's that's pretty much his entire personality. Yeah, I mean, 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.160 he he comes off likable without you know, a tremendous 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.560 amount of dimension to his character. But yeah, from it 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.639 seems like a lot of times in I don't know, 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.800 I guess you can go either way with a werewolf movie. 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:43.719 Sometimes in a werewolf movie, the beset individual is just cursed. 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:45.600 You know, they're in the wrong place at the wrong time, 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.000 they're out on the moors, they get bit by a werewolf, 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:50.640 and now they're stuck with it, and you know, it's 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.679 not really a commentary on their vices, etcetera. Is just 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:55.479 what they got. And I guess that's more of what 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:59.000 we have here with the Jason character. But but in 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.520 other cases, it seems like they you lean more into 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.359 the idea of of caanthropy as as a as a 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:10.000 as an overt physical manifestation of inner monstrosity. So in 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.960 this he's uh, yeah, I think as an actor he's 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.879 perfectly fine in this. He has amazing hair. Um, he's 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.919 a great at conveying a sort of uh, you know, 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:22.080 detached unraveling beneath his his style and he does. He's 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.120 really rock in the seventies style on this because he's 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.480 he's legitimately wearing a leisure suit, uh in in a 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.600 number of scenes, which I feel like it is rare 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.320 to really find in the wild in your cinema. You know, 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.520 there's a lot of talk of leisure suits, but you 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.240 kind of forget what one looks like. Well, behold, here's 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.360 Jason Palmer, our leisure suit wearing entertainment agent who might 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.280 just be overworking himself. He's an entertainment agent. That's what 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.280 his career is. I believe that's correct, or maybe I 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.439 imagined that. I might have imagined that I thought he 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.560 was in real estate. Oh wait, you're right, somebody is 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.320 an entertainment agent in this right, I believe you, But 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.960 I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong on that. Anyway, his 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.080 there's not really you're not really given much to go 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.159 on he has. I think maybe he does mention real 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.920 estate once. But basically he is a stereotypical successful American 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.879 business type. Yes, uh, with very very nice head of 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.960 curly hair and uh. And I gotta say the main 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.560 thing that I appreciated in this movie was the jiggle 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.760 that he does when he starts about when he's like 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.479 about to wolf out, you know, the moon cuts in 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.840 between the clouds and the synth stings start happening, and 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.399 then he just starts to jiggle and like, you know, 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.600 his face kind of wiggles and his shoulders go up 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.760 and down. He's getting into it. He's got his very 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.320 expressive eyes, and his face was just like the right 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.720 amount of doughey, you know, like it's not like he 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.640 he had a his kind of a baby face without 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.040 having like a full baby face, and it works well 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.720 and scenes like this. It also gives him a sort 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.399 of a boyish innocence despite the fact you know that 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:51.920 he's you know, he's he's got a little gray hair 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.760 in there, all right. So that's our lead. That is 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.640 our that's our work beast. We'll come back to him 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.120 at length. But then our second a character here who 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.840 is I guess sort of a hero in his own right, 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:08.440 is the character Rick Blaydon played by Joe Penny born 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.800 nineteen fifty six. He is the house detective. So I 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.240 was trying so hard to understand what's going on here. 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:20.720 He is a detective who works for the hotel. Yes uh, 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.800 and I this was not on my radar as a 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.639 thing at all. But but after we've initially talked about this, 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.040 I looked into it a bit more and it seems 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:32.000 like the house detective was actually a thing. Um. I 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.760 guess it's kind of been replaced to a certain extent 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.359 in modern times by more of like a full blown 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.160 security coordinator and you have a lot more technology involved. 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.440 But I was reading a piece for Travel and Leisure 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.399 from two thousand nine by George uh Kylo Gerax, and 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.040 basically the situation was you'd have an ex cop working 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.400 at a hotel and doing a bit more than mere 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.520 security guard stuff, so kind of overseeing, like overall security 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.399 checking on, um, you know, anybody that was being a 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.440 little bit fishy, uh, looking into into stuff that was 0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.119 going on in the hotel. And it apparently picked up 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.199 a lot of steam in in noir works, specifically in 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.600 the works of of Raymond Chandler. Now I've only read 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.000 The Big Sleep, which was which was great, I loved it, 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.120 but it looks like hotel detectives pop up in at 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.840 least three works of his. So this is kind of like, 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.800 I don't know, like the Master at Arms on the Titanic, 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:31.399 but for a Landlobb hotel. Yeah. Yeah. For example, in 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:35.240 Um and Chandler is a The Little Sister from ninety nine. 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:39.000 There's a bit where our main character is saying. He says, look, 0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.159 I said, you're gonna find this hard to believe, but 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.040 I came over here with the queen idea that you 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.120 might be a girl who needed some help and would 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.280 find it rather hard to get anyone you could bank on. 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.359 I figured you went to that hotel room to make 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.159 some kind of a payoff. And the fact that you 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.639 went by yourself and took chances on being recognized, and 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.800 we're recognized by a house Dick. That's the house detective. 0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:01.479 House Dick Dick detective, you know, um, he continues, who 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.000 standard of ethics would take about as much strain as 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.960 a very tired old cobweb. All this made me think 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.040 you might be one of those Hollywood jams that really 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.919 mean curtains. Anyway, there's more to that, but basically, like 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.080 there's an allusion here to a house detective, the the 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:20.000 guy who is on the job looking out for any 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:24.120 kind of illicit activity. And in some cases and in 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.280 some stories, I think there's the idea too that there 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.119 maybe they can be a little bit crooked. Um, but 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.320 other times like they're there too, you know, they're they're 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.760 really strict and they're not gonna let any kind of uh, 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:38.000 you know, unsavory business slide. Well. Yeah, so they're like 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.600 a private detective, like a private dick, except they work 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.800 for the for the hotel. Right. Yeah, and that's our 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:48.480 character Rick here, he's he's the house detective. And you 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.320 might be wondering, well, where have I seen Joe Penny 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.439 for before? Well, if you ever watched Jake and the 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:58.080 Fat Man from seven, Joe Penny was Jake opposite William 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:03.639 Conrad's titular fat Man. Wait, was this the thing that 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:09.040 was parodied on on the Simpsons with Wigham p I? 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.640 I guess I don't remember Wigham p I offhand. Oh, 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.320 it was on the episode the Simpsons spin off Showcase. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.920 It's where Chief Wigham and Seymour Skinner go to New 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.520 Orleans and become private dicks. There their private detectives there 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.600 in town. Um, that's that's probably what it was. Yeah, 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.800 that's the one with uh with the look big daddy 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.879 it's regular daddy. Oh yeah, I do remember that line. Um, 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.240 So Joe Penny He was also in some other TV 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.720 shows of this era and the Law, also in the 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.320 slasher film Bloody Birthday and in the night one sci 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.640 fi film Lifepod. Have not seen them, but but they exist. 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.360 And yeah, that's Joe Penny. We'll we'll talk about his 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.320 character Rick a bit more as we proceed. So question 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.600 if you noticed this about Joe Penny in this movie. 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.240 Occasionally he's supposed to be I think, kind of a 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.840 kind of a slick hunk, Like he's really into fitness. 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.760 He does a lot of pushups and exercise and stuff. 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.040 But occasionally you'll get a certain angle on his face 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:10.480 where his eyes look very Peter Lori. Yeah, yeah, he does. 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.920 He's like a fitness buff Peter Lorii. Uh, to a 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.760 certain extent, I think. Yeah. The fact that he's buff 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.080 and can do one handed push ups on the beach. 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.000 That's really one of his defining characteristics in this Like, 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.480 we really don't know a lot about this guy except 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.840 that he's really good at one handed pushups. He has 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.680 a microscope in his office, which I thought was very funny. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.560 All right, there's a romantic interest in this picture, right, 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.800 we work Beast falls in love because, of course, if 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.640 you're a work beast, you go to Hawaii, you fall 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.520 in love while you're there, and the lady he falls 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.280 in love with is a character named Diane Yes, played 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.640 by Barbara trentam And. Um, she was and she she's 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.320 a interesting character. She would play Daphne in Ball. She 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.400 wasn't in much else, but it's worth noting. She was 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:03.360 a Monty Python member John Cleese's second wife from one 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:07.400 through nine nine. So she's the mother of actress Camilla Cleice. Uh. Yeah, 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.360 and I'll say she's perfectly fine in this role. She 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.680 you know, it's a standard love interest role for the 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.000 most part, but you also buyer is a highly successful businesswoman. Sure. 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:17.520 I mean this is kind of a straight down the 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.160 middle kind of role. She's just like, very earnest and 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.160 very helpful and well meaning. Right now, there's a bit 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.920 character worth noting in this, Uh, the character of Sherry 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:31.440 played by um uh Debrayley Scott. Uh. She's basically just 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.240 a stewardess slasher victim in this, but she's a comedic 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.440 actress who popped up in a number of notable films 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.200 of the day, and she was in nine American Graffiti. 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.800 I think she plays uh Harrison Ford's girlfriend in that 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.280 his character's girlfriend who was in UH seventy four Earthquake. 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.400 She was in Police Academies one in three. She popped 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.080 up on a number of TV shows, including Welcome Back Cotter, 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.040 and played a corpse in Dirty Harry. Now there's another 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.280 actor in this I wanted to mention by the name 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.800 of Brandscomb Richmond born nineteen fifty five, who plays a 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.760 character named Vince, who is I guess he's some kind 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.200 of security guard at the hotel. He's dressed like a cop, 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.640 but I guess that could just be a security guard outfit. 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.080 He spends a lot of the a lot of his 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.920 scenes in the movie chasing around a room thief who 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.200 has been stealing from the hotel guests. But Richmond is 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:23.800 actually probably to a lot of people, are gonna be 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.760 very recognizable as a character actor and stuntman because he's 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.240 been in a million movies, often playing a tough guy, 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.880 a biker, a bar brawler, a villain's henchman in eighties 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:40.440 action movies. According to his IMDb biography quote, he's been 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.200 on the receiving end of the fists of Arnold Schwarzenegger 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.840 in Commando gotten pummeled by Carl Weathers in Action Jackson 0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.720 and tangled with Steven Seagal and Hard to Kill. Uh. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.920 It seems like in reality, Uh, Richmond is a motorcycle enthusiast. 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.440 I've dug up a few pictures from movies he was in. 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.360 I think I found a picture or of him about 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.480 to get punched by Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando. Um. You 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.959 might also recognize him from Batman Returns as a violent 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:14.160 crime clown who attacks Michelle Peiffer. Uh. He also apparently 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.600 had a small part in Star Trek three The Search 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.120 for Spock, where he played like a Klingon gunner. But 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.840 he's definitely an oh that guy kind of actor. Like. 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.800 You might not know his name, but you've probably seen 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.320 him in at least a dozen movies, especially if you've 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.440 watched action movies of the eighties. So we were trying 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.040 to figure out how to pronounce the name of the 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.480 next actress in this movie, and I actually looked up 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.200 an interview with her where a film historian who was 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.280 interviewing her introduced her and pronounced her name with a 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:49.440 with a French inflection, so he called her France New Yanky. Yeah, France, 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.200 new Yn born nine and this she plays uh to 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.640 a helpful witch. So for a film set in in Hawaii, 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.520 we have I think virtually no Polini Asian actors, um, 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.920 but she's the most prominent Asian actor in the film. 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.480 She's a French citizen of Asian descent. She popped up 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.640 in a number of titles before becoming a psychological counselor. 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.360 Her first film role was in nineteen fifty eight South 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.320 Pacific and she went on to appear in nineteen seventy 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.280 three Battle for the Planet of the Apes. She was 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.400 in the Joy Luck Club, and she appeared in the 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.680 nineteen nineties Outer Limits as well, along with some classic 0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.520 track episodes and also Gun Smokes. So she was pretty 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.800 impressive filmography. Yeah, so I was poking around in her 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:35.280 filmography and h I found one thing that was quite odd. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.160 So she was in a nineteen seventy three TV movie, 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.440 again made for TV called The Horror at thirty seven 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:48.720 thousand Feet and it starred William Shatner and Chuck Connors. Now, 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.280 if this is sort of tingling your brain in a 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.600 strange way, maybe this will help make sense of it. 0:33:55.080 --> 0:34:00.160 There was also a classic Twilight Zone episode called Nightmare 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:04.720 at twenty thousand Feet, which also starred William Shatner. But 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.640 in that episode of the Twilight Zone, Shatner played a 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.680 man who sees a grimlin on the wing of an airplane. 0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.800 And in this movie Horror thirty seven thousand feet, William 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.080 Shatner is a priest who must confront a demon in 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:23.799 a baggage compartment. It sounds great, yeah, uh and uh, 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.920 and France new Yawn plays. And she's a passenger on 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.200 the airplane who I think is supposed to be a model. 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.160 I watched a funny scene where some guys trying to 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:33.759 chat her up and she kind of gives him the 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:38.080 cold shoulder. But from I was reading about this movie 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:42.400 from the IMDb trivia quote, William Shatner described his character's 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.200 demise in the movie as one of his unique ways 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.400 of dying. Quote. I get sucked out of an airplane 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:52.160 while carrying a lit torch into the airliner's baggage compartment 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.400 to try to confront a druid ghost. Well there you go, 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.239 a winning concept. Yeah, and I got some pictures for 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.440 you to look at. Doesn't it look just gorgeous? It 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:08.000 looks great. So the plane has stillactites. Am I seeing that? Right? Yeah, 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.680 it's like the plane floating around. I don't know, I 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.920 can't really tell. I think it is supposed to be. 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.880 The plane is like morphing into a cave and it 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:20.000 has stalactites in the bag and they're back. All right. Well, 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.080 let's round things out here. Who did the music on 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:27.719 this movie. It's Paul Hijara born Japanese American composer. He's 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.680 who's been extremely prolific, composed a good one hundred film scores, 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.960 and these include the likes of Corman's Death Race two 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.400 thousand from nineteen seventy five, which was directed by Paul 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.600 Paul Bartel, who we've we've mentioned on the show before. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.600 His score for Death Moon is mostly traditional, but but 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.560 I think generally effective. And we also have this really 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.600 weird electronic bit that plays when where wolf stuff happens, 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.040 and I like that. Yeah, given the modulated stings you're 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.800 supposed to, I think hear them and feel a little 0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.160 tingle or a shiver coming out of the moon. Yeah, 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.440 the lunacy uh striking you and the soul changing you 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:17.719 into the wolf. Now, Rob, here's a question. Could you 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.760 explain why the first thing we see in this movie 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:25.759 is a view from the surface of the moon. It 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.759 was a bold choice. You know, maybe this helped keep 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.480 some viewers who were still hanging around after Incredible Hulk, 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.600 who are thinking about going to bed early. And then 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.440 they were like, WHOA, what's this? I thought there was 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.000 some sort of a Hawaiian werewolf movie coming on. But 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.160 now we're in space, right, we're in So we're in space, 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.600 on the surface of the moon, the black, black horizon 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.760 in the background, and then we get a text crawl 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:51.400 and I don't know if it's significant that this was 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.319 the year after Star Wars came out, but we get 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.759 a yellow text crawl across the background of space which 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:02.760 reads as follows wherever fearsome beasts have roamed. The legend 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:07.000 of the werewolf persists even in the tropical paradise of 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.960 the Pacific, where it is said and believed that when 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.759 the shadow of the moon is cast, he who is 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.799 cursed will be transformed from an ordinary man into a 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.640 vicious beast. So, first of all, I don't think that's true. 0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.240 I do not think that there is a werewolf tradition 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.080 in Hawaiian legend, though there might be some real world 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.440 analogs that we could talk about later on. But second, 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.640 it says that, so normally, how do you how do 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.920 you turn into a werewolf? What happens some there's some 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.880 kind of atmospheric phenomenon, or not atmospheric, some kind of 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.839 celestial phenomenon, which is the full moon. Right, the moon 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.759 is shining with its full disc down on your side 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.200 of the Earth at night. This says when the shadow 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.040 of the moon is cast. I don't know what that means. 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.640 Does that mean a solar eclipse? Because there are no 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.400 solar eclipses in this movie. I think it's just ultimately 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.719 what elegant variation where they just they didn't want to 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.640 just say when there's a full moon, but then in 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.840 trying to spice it up, they end up saying the 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:09.880 wrong thing. Yeah, I think you're right. But anyway, so 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.520 we're seeing this on the surface of the moon, like 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.280 we're standing there, and then we see the Earth rise photos, 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.000 so we see the Earth from the moon, and we 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.319 get the title death moon one word not to and 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.640 so immediately you're thinking, like why it was so, where 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.560 are we going to space in this movie? Or they're 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:30.680 going to be aliens? And ay, Nope, not at all. 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.160 You never come back to the moon, never go to 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.080 space again. We just for some reason see the Earth 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.760 from space. But you immediately cut from the opening sequence 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.799 after the credits to an echoe dreamlike vision of a 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.200 ritual dance where music is playing and a man is 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.359 dancing wearing a sort of wolf hat or some kind 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:55.200 of monstrous head where where the face of the wolf 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.560 is sort of on backwards. So when his head is 0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.640 turned and you look at the back of his head, 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.360 you see the wolf's face. And meanwhile there is like 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.080 a priestess chanting in the background, and then you see 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.040 a guy who looks like he's dressed like a Catholic priest. 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:13.000 He has a chin strap beard, So I was trying 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.000 to think who he looks most like. You can kind 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:19.360 of imagine former Surgeon General, see Everett Coope or somebody 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.400 like like like if you picture David Letterman without a mustache, 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.160 but with the chin strap beard, that's that's sort of close. Yeah, 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.080 And I believe this is Foxworth playing this character as well, 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:35.040 just with a stick on beard, without a mustache, a 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.239 post it note on his cheek that says beard. So 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.280 something happens through this ritual the man doing the dance 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.200 and the channing priestess. Basically they cause something to pop 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.200 on the priests, the like guy dressed like the Catholic 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.080 priest with the chin strap beard. Something pops in his 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.480 neck and then blood sprays out of a hole in 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.000 his neck. So it's like a cheaper version of Scanners, 0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:59.959 except it doesn't appear to kill him. He just spray 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.719 his blood out of his neck, right, But it was 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.279 all a dream. And then our hero and then he 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.000 will learn his name to Jason. He snaps awake, gasping, 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.680 clutching at his heart like oh like like he like 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.640 he was having a heart heart attack, but he's wearing 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.959 a vest and tie. He was sleeping in a vest 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.160 and tie. That's just that much of a work beast, 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.520 is that he's just working on stop and then you 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.440 don't go to bed. You just collapse and you wake 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.400 up and you work some more. I guess. So he 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.319 was on a couch, I think. And then the very 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.200 next thing, we're in his doctor's office and his doctor 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.000 is almost has slightly kind of a grouch show marks 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.040 sort of vibe. Uh, and the doctor is telling him, 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.359 he's like, look, Jason, you're a work beast. You gotta 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.360 ease up, you gotta light in the load. This is 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.239 clearly a problem they've talked about before. Jason just it 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.360 seems like he's working twenty four hours a day. He 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.479 never sleeps, he never relaxes, and so and the work 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.600 beastiness of his life is killing him. And so his 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.839 doctors like, you know, you gotta take some time off. Uh. 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.600 And meanwhile, Jason what he wants is for his doctor 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.400 to tell him what his dream means. But then he 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.000 explains that he can't remember what he dreamed, and he 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:10.160 never remembers his dreams, so I don't know. Uh. And 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.160 then the doctor offers to recommend a psychologist. I had 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.359 to write this down. He says, you know, someone into 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.040 dream analysis, YOUNGI and stuff a lot of good ones 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.680 in Los Angeles. But the doctor anyway, he's like, no, look, 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.920 work beast, you are too obsessed with hustling deals. You 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.680 need to take a vacation. He actually gets out his 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.160 prescription paper and he writes take a vacation on the paper. 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.680 Uh so. Uh So Jason goes down to the lobby. 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.680 He gets off the elevator. He looks at a travel 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.720 poster for Hawaii. It has an illustration of a mask. 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:48.040 The illustration of the mask scares him, and then we 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:52.080 immediately cut to work beasts arriving at his hotel in Hawaii. Yeah, 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.000 I mean basically, something other than work made him feel something, 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.680 and he's like, oh, well, that's the sign I need 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.960 to go to Hawaii. Right, So I would say somehow 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.279 a major premise of this film is Hawaii is scary, 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:07.759 which doesn't really work. Yeah, yeah, it when we'll get in, 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.399 we'll get into more of that there. There's a lot 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.600 to potentially discussed there. Uh and and I think ultimately 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.920 there's there's some shallow exploration of some deeper topics in 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.440 this film. But yeah, at any rate, he's he's drawn 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.520 to Hawaii and yet at the same time he's a 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.879 little afraid. But of course we we get to meet 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.000 the fabulous resort where he is staying, which his room 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.680 is not right on the beach. It looks more like 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.800 it's sort of on a golf course and a swamp, 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.080 but a really nice swamp, very very well manicured, yet 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:40.560 very well. All the alligators have monocles. It would probably 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.400 be interesting for for like Big Elvis Presley or Hawaiian 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.520 movie fans to watch this film and like and and 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.520 wonder if they see the same place. It's like, oh, yeah, 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.560 that's where Elvis, his character got married in this film 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.240 or whatnot. Yeah, he sang a song with the ukulele 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.960 here and then, but that's where where Uh the house 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.600 detective Rick is out for a job, hug so Jason. 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.480 When he gets there, he meets a bunch of airline 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.319 flight attendants who are staying at the resort, including one 0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.239 of them the character Sherry we mentioned earlier. And they're 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.520 sort of walking around commenting on the poor quality of 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.719 men at the resort. Uh, they don't seem very interested 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.319 in work. Beast he's They're like, what about him? And 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.359 they're like and then they're like, but there is always Rick. 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.200 And then you just smash cut to Rick, who's like 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.720 in short shorts running on the beach, showing off his 0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.759 his finally tuned physique. And I guess we're supposed to 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.960 take away from this that like that, like Rick is 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:39.239 hot stuff. And Rick, as we established earlier, is the 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:43.960 house detective of the hotel. Yeah, which again, when when 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:45.760 when I watched this as well, I had no idea 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.040 this was a thing. So just like the idea, you 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.000 have a guy like full time, like on staff, perhaps 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:55.279 lives in the hotel, who just investigates crimes, like ongoing 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.319 crimes in the hotel. But I enjoy being corrected in 0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.960 this way because it's one of those times where I 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.680 was like, what this is so contrived, This lacks very similitude, 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.680 And then I find out, Oh no, there, that's actually 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.480 a real thing. I get, you know, And I was 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.520 thinking to like, Okay, maybe this is only a thing 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.799 in like big casino hotels where you know, there's a lot, 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.680 maybe a lot more going on. It's just a bigger infrastructure, 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.600 and you could you could make a case for needing 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.480 something like this, but I don't know. It sounds like 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.440 back in the day, you know, just a reasonably sized 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.359 you know, I guess like a big city hotel, you know, 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.719 the kind of hotel where detectives are going to be 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:31.719 popping up and showing up. You might need somebody in 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.120 house to deal with situations. And I think also sometimes 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.600 it's implied or or overtly stated to that you need 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:43.080 somebody that is that's not the actual cops to get involved, 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.920 particularly if it's an important client of the hotel. Right, well, 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.680 I think we're Yeah, maybe that's where some of the 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.279 crookedness comes in, because it's like, you don't want to 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:55.120 necessarily have the law applied equally. You want some kind 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.920 of discretion. That's really you know, you're sort of like 0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.520 at the service of your your wealthy paying guests. Yeah, 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.240 but at any rate, Rick doesn't sound Ricks just seems 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.000 like this young guy like we were. And I think 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.640 in real life the house detective would be like a 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.759 retired police officer or hired detective. Not this this young 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:14.759 hot guy running on the beach and doing two arms up, 0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.000 doing one arm up push ups, right, not not beach 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.960 crime muscle boy. But so he's investigating beach crime because 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.080 that's what he does. Apparently there have been multiple break 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.319 ins at the hotel and uh, and so Sherlock Rick 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.560 starts snooping around the hotel office looking for clues, and 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.000 he finds something. I was trying to figure out what 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.759 this was through the kind of large grain visuals of 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.480 the version we saw. It looked kind of like a 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:41.080 partially chewed up piece of carrot. But maybe that's just 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.680 I don't know, Maybe maybe that's just my experiences with 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.520 dogs coloring this. It looked like maybe it could be 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.640 a cheese it. Yeah. It was something kind of large 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.520 and orange. Yeah. And then meanwhile we we see what 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.200 Jason's doing at the at the hotel. Here, he goes 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.760 a lounging by the pool. He dozes off and starts 0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.239 having ominous dream visions. He dreams of a lady booming 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.120 over him ominously, and you know, and I guess you 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:05.880 wonder it's like maybe he should have just gone to 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.719 that Youngian analyst and in Los Angeles. But uh, but 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.359 then we cut back to Sherlock Rick, and he, as 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.120 I mentioned earlier, has a microscope in his lab, and 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.480 he does not a lab, it's just an office in 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.400 the hotel, but with a microscope. When he's looking at slides, 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.960 and he confers with his cop friend, I think this 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:25.640 is Vince. I'm not sure if I remember right. I 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:27.000 didn't make a note of who it was, but he 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.839 has a a sort of cop buddy here, and Rick 0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:35.600 concludes that we're dealing with a professional room thief. Uh, 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.279 someone who is like a a pro at working hotels 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.000 and like making copies of keys to hotel rooms and 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.799 then going in and stealing the things that belonged to 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.360 the guests. Oh and this is where I think maybe 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.080 this thing that we thought was the chewed up piece 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.239 of carrot is like a piece of wax that would 0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:55.680 have been used in making copies of keys. Yeah, all right, 0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:57.920 that makes sense and then ultimately makes sense like if 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:00.880 you if you have a big enough hotel, I guess, 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.680 high profile clientele, it might make sense that you have 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.800 at a house detective to deal with this sort of thing. Yeah. Sure. 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.000 So later this night, we see Jason getting to know 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.520 people who are vacationing there with him. Like he's hanging 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.959 out with a couple of people watching a musical performance. Uh. 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.919 And Jason's talking about his investments and he's like, well, 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:23.080 I'm mostly into real estate. Uh. And It's like, I thought, 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.279 you work beast. You cannot turn off your work beast. Right, 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:30.719 he's here on vacation, he's still just talking about investments. Yeah. Well, 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.319 I mean he you know, he just got there. He's 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:33.919 he's going to take a little time to turn it off. 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.120 I think. Yeah. But in the background, we see another 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.440 conversation where these guys are talking to a lady and 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.560 they're like, we've got a prospectus. You can look at 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.920 time is money and so it's just I think maybe 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.239 the movie I couldn't tell if the movie knew it 0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.760 was trying to say something or not, but it seems 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:55.239 like even on vacation, everyone's just trying to do business. Yeah, 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.920 I think there's this there is part part of the Again, 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.319 this shallow alchemy of this film I think is commentating 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:05.600 in in part on like American work culture and uh 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.280 and you know the degree to which it is poisoning 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.520 us or was poisoning us, and it it's still poison us. Well, yeah, 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.200 to be I mean if this was true at the 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:15.839 time in the seventies, it definitely seems true today that 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.319 you know, for a lot of people with their work 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.719 sort of is their life. Well, and you see that 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.439 in like the term workaholic, right, we were talking about 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.359 this a little off off Mike before we recorded here, 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.040 Like which is a better term, work beast or workaholic? 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.960 Because workaholic if you if you just actually look at 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:36.480 the word it it implies, you know, it's espresisly states 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.000 that like this is something that is harmful to you 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.120 have an illness, Yeah, I have an illness. This is 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.440 something that this is not good. I shouldn't be bragging 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.839 about being or you know, patting myself on the back 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:51.160 for being a workaholic. Um. Whereas work beast does sound 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.280 more fun in some respects, but also does sound monstrous 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.040 as well, something that just takes over your body, like 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.839 like antherpy and you know you have to go out 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:04.279 and slaughter the farmers, sheep herd or whatever. But I 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:06.759 think I ultimately like work beast best. I think people 0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:10.520 should start using it in their job interviews and and 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.600 you know, don't be afraid to tell your boss. Look, 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.680 if if you can't handle me at my work worst, 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:20.520 you don't deserve me at my work beast. Okay, I apologize, 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:24.400 let's keeping no, no, no, that's fabulous. But anyway, so 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.239 the lady who's got a perspect us on her way, 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.720 this is Diane. This is who who, of course Jason 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:32.360 is going to fall in love with. We can already 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.200 tell just immediately when they need. They made eyes at 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.919 the pool earlier, and they start chatting and she's like, well, 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.839 I can tell you're on vacation instead of business, even 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.360 though he's usually on business. And uh. And so they 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:48.279 watch a musical number where the band plays a song, 0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.080 and this is one of those things, and it's very common. 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:53.239 I don't know if this matches your experience. I think 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.920 it's very common and made for TV movies of the 0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.160 late seventies to slightly pad out their run time with 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.080 musical numbers. So like, what if we had characters go 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:03.960 to a bar where a band was playing, and then 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.359 we just watched part of a song. Yeah, I mean 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.560 it is a good way to to lengthen the film. 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.480 I mean that it's pretty long because it contains two 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:15.080 songs and it's in their entirety. Meanwhile, metal Storm the 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.480 Destruction of Jared Sin a little on the short side, 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.840 could have used some full musical numbers. I would I 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.880 would definitely take some metal Storm songs. But this is 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.200 one where the lyrics of the song also described the 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.839 plot of the movie so far, so I wrote them down. 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.720 The lyrics go, I was just minding my own business 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.200 the way I always do. Nose to the Grindstone, heart 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.920 to the floor, when you smiled at me, A smile 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.439 that opened the door. Oh yeah. Like lyrically, it could 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.120 be a Jackson Brown song, though when it's not a 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:48.400 Jackson Brown song, I was trying to think of a 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.040 to sing like doctor my Eyes. But it's about seeing 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:55.720 these ominous visions. Yeah, it doesn't quite work, okay, especially 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.960 he couldn't remember the vision, so that this is the 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.480 thing that's not really making sense to me. He's being 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.400 troubled by these dreams that he's having of this ancient, 0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.000 of this ritual. But he says that he can't remember 0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:09.840 his dreams. So how does he know that's what's troubling 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:12.560 him or how does he like he It's implied that 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.759 he doesn't remember what the dreams are when he wakes up, 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.880 and it sounds like a very sort of question that 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.680 would be posting the lyrics of Jackson Brown song. I 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.400 have to say, um, but but yeah, he we have 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.440 privileged information as the viewer. We see clips of his 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:27.719 dream and but he clearly doesn't retain all of this 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:32.200 except for some sort of vague feeling that, uh, you know, 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.600 Hawaii is attractive yet scary. I don't know, right, right, 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.960 So Jason and Diane they get to know each other, 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.960 talking about business, they talk about achievement. You know, they're 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.640 they're like, they're like the big lebowskiter there. We are 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.440 people who are able to achieve, and they talk about 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.359 what schools they got into and becoming the executive vice 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.720 president at work. Uh oh, while the camera keeps cutting 0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.759 to the moon, and every time it cuts to the moon, 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:59.480 it plays this this little synthesizer sting that's like the 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:01.960 finger of the moon coming down to touch you with 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.000 a little tingle and uh and every time it sends 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.759 Jason a little tingle, it makes it harder for him 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:11.279 to pay attention to his conversation. And Diane starts sending 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.600 like she's speaking from the bottom of a well, and 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.960 suddenly Jason just gets up and runs away, clutching his chest. 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:21.319 And then he turns into a werewolf in the bushes. Yeah, 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.080 which is great because there's a couple who like hears it. 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.160 They like, walk by this rat shaking bush and they 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.920 hear this snarling and they go immediately report it to Rick, 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.759 and Rick investigates and he finds wolf slashes in the 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.680 palm tree trunk. So the next morning, Jason, of course 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:39.840 does not remember what happened last night. I guess this 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.279 goes along with him never remembering his dreams. But Rick 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.120 is on the case. He's investigating, and uh, and we 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:47.480 do then get some insight into what's going on with 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.840 the room thief. I wondered if this would connect to 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.719 the werewolf thing, but it doesn't at all. There's just 0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.480 a creep who's just stealing from the rooms. He's got 0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.120 a key cutter and he's making copies of keys, and 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.560 at first it looks like maybe he's also making a 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:02.799 silver her bullet, Like he's got a little casting thing 0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:04.600 and he pours some metal into it. But I think 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.319 maybe he's just making keys. Yeah, yeah, I don't think 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:10.600 there's any silver going on here, which ultimately yeah is 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.200 we'll discuss. It's kind of a missed opportunity. There's nothing 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.800 there's nothing really in the film about There's nothing special 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:19.000 about the slaying of a werewolf or the detecting of 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.040 a werewolf. There's nothing like that, be it silver bullets. 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:26.760 There's some sort of uh, you know, um like Hawaiian tradition. 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:31.000 Nothing right. So Jason goes to see a doctor. He's 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:32.520 already been to a doctor once in the movie. He 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.520 goes again and the doctor just thinks it's an anxiety 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:39.120 attack that's the product of overworking, sun exposure and alcohol, 0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.120 and he's like, just you know, you need to chill out. 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.600 You need to go on vacation. Yeah, he's like I 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.520 I used to be a big city doctor and then 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:47.880 I came out here and I just took it down 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:49.560 a notch. You need to do the same, he says. 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:54.120 I finally learned how to relax, But surely people can 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.759 be stressed out in Hawaii to right. Well, you know, 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.040 I wondered if if that was part of like the 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:03.440 genesis for this story. It's like somebody who who was 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:08.600 experiencing vacation anxiety and and decided to explore it fictionally 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.520 because you know, obviously that that is a thing like 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.360 people who you know, it's just because you're you know, 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.280 you're fortunate enough to get to go on vacation doesn't 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.880 mean you you don't bring your your you know, existing 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.279 anxieties with you. So and I'm wonder if that was 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.120 a case where like one of the screenwriters had an 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:27.440 experience like this and and did some you know, fictionalizing 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:30.680 and and some some dream weaving around it. At least 0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.319 in the modern era. I find a very important way 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.640 to avoid that is cutting off internet access. That is 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:42.719 like key, yeah, yeah, Otherwise yeah, it's it's always lingering, Yeah, Yeah, 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.680 you can always get a dose of anxiety as long 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:49.040 as you have the password for the rooms of Wireless. Yeah. Yeah, 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:53.480 you can feel bad no matter where you are. But 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.040 so also on this outing, Jason and Diane end up 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.040 going to an old church and we finally get a 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.560 little bit of backstory. They go into of this church 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:02.480 and they look at a picture of the guy we 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:04.319 saw in the vision earlier, the guy with the chin 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:07.920 strap beard, the priest, and we find out that that 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.960 was in fact Jason's ancestor, who was a missionary in 0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:17.239 Hawaii in the eighteen seventies, which is a little I'm 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.640 wondering if he's supposed to be a Catholic missionary, he's 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:23.000 supposed to be a Catholic priest. Who is Jason's ancestor. Yeah, 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:24.640 I don't know. They gave him kind of an Amish 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:29.000 beard though, like, like's if he's an Amish missionary. But 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.960 I think maybe they went with that weird beard just 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.520 so you could recognize his face to some extent. Yeah, 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:39.400 so you could see the resemblance between him and his ancestor. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, 0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.040 back at the hotel, uh, we see a couple not 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.400 Jason and Diane, and the other couple. I think the 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.000 people who they were talking to about, I don't know, 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:50.719 real estate investments earlier. Uh. They're watching a performance of 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.520 what we are told is an ancient Polynesian ritual dance 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:58.960 that was quote performed in secret until the altar was 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:03.080 destroyed by missionaries in eight seventy eight. A curse, it 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:06.839 is said and believed, haunts the descendants of the defilers. 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:11.360 And she's like reading this from a pamphlet. So I 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.480 should point out here that you know, this is obvious 0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:18.319 weird fictioning of Hawaiian culture, though at the same time 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:22.480 the movie story is at least very shallowly acknowledging the 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:27.200 destructive force of colonialism on Hawaiian culture. UM. I should 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.839 also note that this dance sequence that we see here, 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.799 and I think we see it again, there's this bit 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:33.960 with the spinning dance with the mask on the back 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.600 of the head that creates a transformation effect. Uh. It's 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.319 actually pretty impressive. But I was wondering, like, where does 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:42.879 this come from? I feel like I've seen this sort 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.879 of dance before, but I I don't think i've seen 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:50.759 it associated with UM with with Hawaiian dance. Maybe it's 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.160 I don't know if it's associated with any Polynesian culture 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.239 or maybe it is. I don't know. I couldn't find 0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:57.080 anything about it, but it's impressive. This is one of 0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.160 the more impressive sequences in the film, where there's this 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.840 dance and there's this this kind of bestial mask on 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:05.600 the back of the head, and he creates this transformation 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:07.799 effect and then of course we keep cutting to him 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.640 freaking out over it, and that helps as well. Right, Yeah, 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.400 so Jason wanting he's trying to say his good nights 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:17.640 um to to Diane, but he immediately starts wolfing out again. 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:21.520 We see the moon and and the synthesizer stings come 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.440 in and uh, and of course it is the prelude 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.040 to wolf ing out. He stares directly into the camera 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.240 and he jiggles his body, and then there's a wolf attack. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:35.240 So Rick the house detective and Sherry the flight attendant, 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.000 they're hanging out and then Rick has to go do 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.600 some kind of security business and then immediately work wolf 0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:45.200 busts in Mall's Sherry. But it's one of those attacks 0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.800 where it's only an extreme close up of a wolf 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.000 eye and a claw and you really don't see anything 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.160 that happens. And then the next morning there's been a 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.520 murderer and Rick is investigating. And first of all, Rick 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.280 does not seem all that upset. He just seems kind 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.960 of confused. And he says, uh, he says to the 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:06.160 other person he's investigating with, she wasn't into drugs or 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:09.400 anything wrong. So this doesn't make sense. And I was like, 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.320 what do people people normally get mauled by wolves as 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.480 a result of being into drugs. I mean, I guess 0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:19.200 it's it's this is like a you know, psychedelic dark 0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.439 ages thing. You know, this is the idea of the kids. 0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:24.760 They'll they'll take the LSD, they'll take the mushrooms, and 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.600 then they'll maul themselves to death. Yeah. I think this 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.000 is just wor old fallacy, right, Like you you only 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.160 get torn to pieces by a wolf if you're a 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:36.600 bad person, must have done something. Clearly that is not true. 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:40.280 Sherry Cherry, the flight attendant, did nothing to deserve getting work. 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.840 Wolfed Um and the housekeeping worker, by the way, who 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:46.160 says she discovered her. There's a scene where she's talking 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.320 about it. She makes it clear that she was literally 0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:50.840 torn into pieces. She said that half of her was 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.240 on the bed, half on the floor, and we don't 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.280 see a drop of blood. I guess this is because 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:58.080 it's made for TV, but it made me think about 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:02.080 how it's interesting what is acceptable on TV that you 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:07.680 can fully evoke the fact of a gruesome, gory dismemberment 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.840 death if you describe it in words you, but you 0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:14.520 can't show any of it on the screen, uh, which 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.600 I don't know. I suddenly had that moment of like, 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:18.919 why is it like that? Like why why would TV 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.920 standards prevent you from showing the fake blood but not 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:26.440 prevent you from verbally describing a dismemberment. Yeah, because ultimately, 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.480 like the irony with a film like this is that 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:32.360 the description and then remembering what she looks like and 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.600 remembering like the very you know, bubbly lifelike qualities of 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.600 the of the actress, Like that's worse than anything they 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:41.240 could have conceivably pulled off in the film, you know, 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.720 any kind of effect they might have used with splattered 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:48.440 fake blood or or you know, half torso effects, anything 0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.200 like that. Like, instead, the version that we have in 0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.160 our mind is actually pretty gruesome. Of course, as the viewer, 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.400 we know that it was Jason in beast in beast form, 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.600 but obviously, once again he doesn't remember any thing, and 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:03.760 so the police arrived to investigate. They're sort of I 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.760 think they're sort of competing now with with Rick versus 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.600 this police detective who's sort of got a George C. 1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:14.240 Scott vibe, and they're they're having somewhat territorial dispute over 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.320 who does this investigation. Well, I like how they're they're 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.240 quick to remind Rick, Hey, Rick, you know you're not 1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:23.480 a real cop, right like I'm I'm the actual police here. 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:27.200 Uh you're not, so please, you know, don't overstep yourself. 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:28.960 And this is the point. I was thinking about this 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:31.800 when I was taking a shower earlier today. I was like, oh, 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:35.240 my goodness, what if all this werewolf stuff? This is 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:39.480 the this is the fiction in reality, um Rick is 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.840 the serial killer? Um because you know, you think about 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:46.160 I can't remember to what extent this is a thing 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.760 in the actual world, but I know that in various 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:51.840 serial murderer fiction they often point that, oh, well, you know, 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.240 a lot of times the murderer is drawn to the 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.240 world of of law enforcement, and sometimes they'll take on 1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.920 a role that is, uh, you know, like a secure 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:02.040 the personnel or something like they want to be a 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:05.840 police officer, they want proximity to the world of crime 1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:08.040 and murder. But they you know, but they don't have 1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:10.760 it together enough to do that, so they end up, 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:14.200 you know, being something like maybe a house detective, um 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:18.040 and um. And then there's something like this version. Yeah, yeah, 1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:22.400 there'll be some more evidence for this hypothesis later. Okay. Meanwhile, 1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:26.120 also we get Jason and Diane frawlinking around. You know, 1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:28.080 they're just running around on a beach, having a great 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.440 time together. They're clearly falling in love. Uh. And I 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.160 will say it's not the most convincing love story ever, 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:37.120 but it's probably better at establishing it than Metal Storm, 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.520 which once again I was just thinking about earlier today 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.960 and was I was laughing at that with with Dojin 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:46.720 and Kelly Preston in that movie, like absolutely nothing. They're 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:49.120 just like, well, we're in love for some reason. Now 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:51.600 we are they but we bind each other together. We 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:54.200 have known each other for five minutes of screen time. 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.920 Whereas yeah, and this, I think one of the reasons 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.760 that this film ultimately you know, works as well as 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.440 it does for me is that I do kind of 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:06.120 buy into their their TV love. You know, it's it's 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.680 it's made for TV love. But you know it'll work, 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:14.000 you know, if you're coasting after the Hulk, it's good enough. Yeah. Um. 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:16.640 But anyway, so there's a part that again I think 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:21.200 informs the backstory. Diane finds a birthmark behind Jason's ear, 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:25.040 and Jason says, oh, something my grandmother told me about 1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:27.040 my great grandfather. She told me that he had a 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.760 scar on his neck, just like my birthmark. Uh. So 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:33.520 we think back to in the opening vision that he 1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:36.480 doesn't remember about where the chin strap beard guy it 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:40.080 was spraying blood out of his neck. Ah, this is 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:43.880 the mark. Okay, Yeah, anyways, nighttime again another full moon. 1:02:44.080 --> 1:02:46.640 Like in many Werewolf movies, this movie seems to think 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:48.880 that you just get like a weak straight of full 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:52.800 moons all in a row. Well, I guess there's there 1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:54.880 keeps being enough of a full moon. You know, you 1:02:54.920 --> 1:02:56.880 don't have to have like a full full moon, right, 1:02:56.960 --> 1:02:58.840 It's just you just have to be close enough and 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:02.600 it's going to trigger the chain. Give us will do it? Um? Okay? 1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:04.880 So and oh and then also, uh, this is the 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:07.240 first time in the movie where we really get anything 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:10.240 like a a full peak at at work beast in 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.680 wolf form. It's not great. I gotta say it's not great. 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:18.560 He's just very, very hairy all over and has some fangs. 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:23.080 And yeah, well I think we we do have to 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:25.840 to be fair. Uh. First of all this the whole 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:28.640 TV movie thing. But then also I think that the 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:32.440 werewolf transformation and effects in this film are ultimately, you know, 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:34.680 they're very old school. They're more in the vein of 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:39.400 Lawn Cheney Jr. As opposed to the revolution in cinematic 1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:41.800 werewolf depictions that would come in the early eighties with 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:45.280 films like An American Werewolf in London, The Howling, The 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.800 Thriller Music Video, and so forth. If you think of 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.840 nineteen seventies werewolf films like stuff like stuff like Werewolves 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:56.320 on Wheels, you know, they all the beasts must Die. 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.120 I actually can't remember what the wolf was like in 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:01.360 The Beast Must Die, but it may have been more 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:03.800 of like a straight up wolf that they shot. Uh. 1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:06.320 But but for the most part, a lot of the 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:09.520 werewolves of this era were still based on that old 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:13.520 school idea of Lawn Cheney Jr. In a fur costume, 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:15.320 you know, like that was your idea of what a 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:18.840 werewolf was, and it was only in the eighties that 1:04:18.920 --> 1:04:21.360 we really moved further into this idea of a more 1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:25.439 loopine hybrid beast. That's right, Yeah, I was thinking about 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.360 the same thing. You've got a couple of competing strains 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:31.200 of werewolf morphology in the movie Cannon, and one is 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.680 the one you're talking about, the lawn Cheney junior style, 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:37.920 which is typically full humanoid body, fully by petal, but 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:41.400 covered with hair, with claws and fangs, and often the 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:43.800 hair on the head in this style forms a sort 1:04:43.840 --> 1:04:47.840 of rectangular shape, but it's basically a flat humanoid face. 1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:50.800 And then I would say the major differences with the 1:04:51.200 --> 1:04:55.080 more updated werewolf morphology that I think a really I 1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:56.920 don't think this was the first movie to do it 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:59.800 this way, but it was really influential, was like you say, 1:04:59.840 --> 1:05:02.360 I'm Erican Werewolf in London, which came out in eighty one, 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:05.480 and they're the big difference I think is that the 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.600 werewolf has a long snout and a more dog like skull. 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:12.560 That's that's the big difference. Yeah, and ultimately also a 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:17.800 more ambitious bit of special effects creation here, I mean 1:05:17.840 --> 1:05:21.480 going beyond special effects makeup. Uh. So ultimately, if you 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.920 had to create one, uh go and you don't have 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:26.480 much to work with. The Lon Chaney junior direction is 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:28.720 the is the way to go? Yeah exactly. I mean 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:31.760 even most werewolf movies in the years since don't look 1:05:31.800 --> 1:05:33.960 as good as American Werewolf in London. So you know 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:37.800 that that was a special, very special, unique achievement. But 1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:39.800 I will say as they don't show much of the 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:42.440 werewolf and Deathman is especially at this point in the film, 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:45.240 it's kind of a flash. It's kind of then close 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:49.240 up on eyes, maybe teeth, and that helps it remain effective. 1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:01.120 Now this is mid movie some so they spend sometimes 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:04.280 sort of waiting around in in some b plots, Rick 1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:06.960 ens up running around after the room thief. Like there's 1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:11.440 a chase scene that's almost Benny Hill like, uh doesn't 1:06:11.480 --> 1:06:14.640 quite have yakety sex, but it does have trombones. Yeah. 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.919 And it's hard to be too invested in the room 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:20.600 thief scenario. I I mean I was staying in um 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:24.120 essentially like a hotel room in y at the time, 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:26.720 so I kind of thought about this a little bit 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:28.640 of like what if there's a room thief? Now, you know, 1:06:28.800 --> 1:06:30.360 what if they're running around out there and there's a 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:34.560 house detective chasing them. But really it's hard to get 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:37.200 invested in this plot. What if there was simultaneously a 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.640 room thief and a work beast, what would you be 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:43.320 more concerned about? I mean, I guess ultimately the work beast, 1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:46.280 because the workbeasts will just straight up tear you in half, 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:48.560 right there. Yeah, that's my point. So I think that 1:06:48.680 --> 1:06:51.880 the room thief subplot doesn't doesn't work super well. But 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:56.280 but anyway, so we're back with Jason and he goes 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:58.360 back to the doctor again. So the third time in 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:00.520 the movie he goes to the doctor. He's just like, 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:04.200 I don't know, doctor, feel bad and the doctor at 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:06.040 this point, I think the doctor should just be like 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.560 in I want to reference the Simpsons again, Sir, you 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:12.800 need a quack, you know. But meanwhile, Rick is being 1:07:12.880 --> 1:07:17.040 assisted now by his criminology colleague Julie, and together they're 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:19.760 looking for clues, and in fact, Julie finds a clue. 1:07:20.160 --> 1:07:24.240 She discovers traces of canine hair. I think it is 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:28.040 at the crime scenes and Ricks like, but but we 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:32.920 don't allow dogs in the hotel. And another thing that 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.160 was funny is it's hard to hear the dialogue in 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:38.320 the scene. It's like poor audio mixing where the phones 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:42.400 ringing in the background are louder than Rick's lines. But anyway, 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:45.920 so you know Jack and Diane, their romance is still developing, 1:07:46.000 --> 1:07:49.720 their hitting it off, and Diane is at her work conference. 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:52.800 She's trying to close the big deal. But Jason reveals 1:07:52.880 --> 1:07:55.439 that he has made reservations for them as something called 1:07:55.560 --> 1:07:59.280 the Paradise Retreat, which, from what I can tell, is 1:07:59.320 --> 1:08:02.600 like a second order vacation. It's like, your vacation is 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:06.160 not vacation enough, so you take a vacation from your vacation. 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:09.919 Well that that sounds like a total work beast move, Like, Okay, 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:11.720 the vacation is not working, we need to take this 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:13.960 to the next level. Yes, so they're going to leave 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:17.360 the resort hotel and go to Paradise Retreat, which, uh, 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:19.200 to be fair, I think he did explain that the 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:23.479 major differences it's like they don't have TV and phones 1:08:23.560 --> 1:08:25.640 and stuff. So I don't know, maybe that's kind of 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.840 like disconnecting the Internet like I was talking about earlier. Yeah, 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:31.840 it's it's it's even more. Uh, it's like on the 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.080 other side of the island or something, right, But before 1:08:34.120 --> 1:08:36.080 they go to that, there's one more night at the 1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:38.240 resort hotel. They're gonna leave for that the next day. 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:40.679 H So of course we're gonna get yet another wolf 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:43.280 out evening. So we at this point in the movie, 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:46.360 I will say, is somewhat repetitive because it's just another night, 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.800 another full moon due to tacks again. But this time 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:54.839 we get work beast versus room thief that the streams cross, 1:08:55.360 --> 1:08:58.120 and it is not a close call. No, I mean, 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:00.720 they should have made the room thief the Ava Empire, right, 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:03.400 that would have been really that wouldn't or maybe even 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:07.840 another werewolf. But it's just a guy who steals keys 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:10.719 and makes copies of keys and then sneaks into rooms 1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:13.000 and steals stuff. So of course he just gets torn 1:09:13.040 --> 1:09:15.719 to pieces by our our wolf, right, and so people 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:19.439 find him floating in the water the next morning, face down. Uh. 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:22.519 And so the room thief problem that is solved. But 1:09:22.880 --> 1:09:25.400 a thing that's funny is every morning we see Jason 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:27.840 in a kind of days after, you know, he's like, 1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:30.400 what happened last night? I don't know. Usually he's in 1:09:30.520 --> 1:09:33.240 his bed, but in this case we see him wandering 1:09:33.320 --> 1:09:36.400 in a daze in filthy clothes where while like Moody 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:39.479 Wolf for Morse music plays in the background, and he 1:09:39.640 --> 1:09:42.840 just stumbles past Rick early in the morning, doing one 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:47.439 handed push ups and getting pumped up. Yeah. Yeah, And 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:50.000 even though his clothing is grabby, it doesn't look nearly 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:51.559 as grabby as it should have been if he had 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:55.040 torn a man to pieces just a few hours prior. Yeah, agreed, 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:57.400 where's the blood? I guess they couldn't show that on 1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:00.920 TV right anyway, Diane and Jason they go off to 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:04.080 their to their paradise retreat and so they're they're like 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:06.560 on the road heading off to that place. But but 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:09.280 but Rick is still on the case back at the 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:12.560 hotel and he's hanging out in the lobby when the 1:10:12.800 --> 1:10:16.400 doctor who Jason kept going to arrives at the hotel 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:19.840 inquiring for for work beast at the front desk, uh 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:21.840 and I'm like, why didn't he just call on the phone? 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:24.840 I'm not sure, but Rick overhears him and he wants 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:28.680 to pick his brain. Absolutely no respect for medical privacy here. 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.479 The doctor just explains to Rick that he's like, well, 1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:35.720 I've got his lab tests or or I can't believe them. Uh. 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:39.120 And so he explains that Jason's lab results came back 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:42.280 and he needs to consult with a specialist on the mainland. 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:45.160 And Rick says, what's wrong with him? Doc? And I 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:46.960 thought the doctor was going to be like, it's the 1:10:47.040 --> 1:10:50.040 strangest thing. His blood was not human, it was work 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:53.240 beast blood. But he doesn't say that. He just says like, 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:57.320 I don't know. I just don't know. So that scene 1:10:57.400 --> 1:10:59.280 kind of fizzles out when it could have gone somewhere, 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:03.439 but it's implied like the wolf, the blood is wolf blood. 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:07.000 There's something wolfie about this blood, right exactly. But then 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:09.720 Rick makes a very smart move. He's like, Okay, I've 1:11:09.760 --> 1:11:11.720 just been looking for clues. What I really need to 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:16.240 do is go consult a wise sorcerer. Um. So instead 1:11:16.360 --> 1:11:19.439 he goes to to visit this wise and powerful witch 1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:24.120 named Tapulua, who is again the character played by France 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:29.080 new Yawn. And she, of course, because of course, speaks 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:32.000 about herself in the third person, so she's like, Tapulua 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:35.960 knows everything and everyone on this island. And Rick thinks 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:38.400 that she can tell him something about what's going on, 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:42.000 and uh, and she she tells him first of all. 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:44.320 This is a direct quote. She says, my powers are 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:48.840 more powerful. She says they're they're rooted deeper, they're as 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:52.800 old as the islands. But Tapulu ends up being cool 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:55.760 with Rick because she says she's watched him and she 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:58.800 knows that he has great love for the island. That's 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:01.560 a quote. Again. Have we seen any evidence of this? 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:06.960 Absolutely none that you know. There's only all we really 1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:10.439 know about Rick is that he takes his position as 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:14.840 a house detective a little too seriously and keeps in shape. Yeah, 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:17.719 we don't see him, uh, you know, engaging in local 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:22.120 politics or standing up for the native population. We don't 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.920 see him particuting, being protective of the environment, or any 1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:27.120 other kind of spin you might take on it. Uh, 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:30.479 you know, you know, even in just a film like this, uh, 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:34.360 it ends up having this kind of almost dark place 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:37.479 with Garth MARENGHI vibe to it where she's like, oh, no, 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.479 you were you were the you know, you're a good 1:12:40.560 --> 1:12:44.080 Hawaiian citizen just because I say so. Of course you are. 1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:46.439 You're the hero of the film. But yeah, nothing is 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:49.439 presented to back this up, and it's it's very I 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:53.280 just graduated Harvard College, jail where I got an a yeah, 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:57.080 so so yeah. I think there's ultimately a lot you 1:12:57.120 --> 1:13:00.200 could unravel there about the positioning of this of a 1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:02.280 character like this in a film like this, a film 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:07.080 that again at least very shallowly is contemplating uh like 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:11.160 the impact of colonialism on Hawaiian culture and uh and 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:15.439 and the on the Hawaiian islands, um, but without really 1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:18.040 doing anything with it, like barely getting its toes wet. 1:13:18.560 --> 1:13:20.800 And then but then they prop up this character as 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:25.280 as just totally okay, like nothing nothing problematic about Rick. 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:27.280 I mean, she'll vouch for him, so I guess we 1:13:27.400 --> 1:13:29.280 just got to take her word for it. She she 1:13:29.439 --> 1:13:32.320 obviously saw something that we didn't see. She was she 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:34.960 got to see the scenes that were cut. But this also, 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:39.840 this supports my serial killer hypothesis because Rick has it 1:13:39.880 --> 1:13:42.960 seems like Rick has delusions perhaps not only not only 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:45.599 a strong interest in the supernatural as well as law enforcement, 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:49.400 but also has clear delusions about being like this, this 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:52.760 kind of hero of the islands without any evidence to 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:55.160 support it. Oh yeah, clearly, because when she's like, I 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:58.280 know you're good because you have great love for this island, Rick, 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:04.360 I think he says that's true. Uh, and she explains 1:14:04.400 --> 1:14:07.320 to him about the werewolf curse. Um. Not that there's 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:09.519 much left to figure out for the audience, right, Like 1:14:09.960 --> 1:14:12.240 the audience is up to speed, but Rick is not. 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:16.000 So she explains that work Beast had an ancestor who 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.920 was a brutal missionary who destroyed the altar of the 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:21.519 people who lived there, and they put a curse on 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:24.120 him and his descendants so that if they came back 1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:26.439 to the island, they would turn into a werewolf. And 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:31.160 that's what's happening and weirdly localized course curse ultimately, but yes, 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.479 so it goes well, it's part of the curse also 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:36.560 that he would be like psychically lured back there. Like 1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:39.360 it's not really ever explained that there's any good reason 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:41.439 why he came, except that he knew he had an 1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:45.519 ancestor who was a brutal missionary here. Yeah, yeah, I 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:47.759 don't know. It's yeah, it's not not very well supported. 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:49.639 I guess he's kind of drawn back by that poster, 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.120 but who knows. Well Anyway, Rick tries to go to 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:54.640 the police detective, the George C. Scott type guy and 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.400 explain everything to him, and he brings a book called 1:14:57.600 --> 1:15:00.600 The Legend and History of Like and thro Hopes, and 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:03.960 the detective is not buying it. And again I liked 1:15:04.240 --> 1:15:07.960 how much crap the the actual police detective gives him 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.280 over this. It's like, come on, uh, you you were ridiculous. 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:13.679 You're not a real police officer, and you just brought 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:16.519 me a book about werewolves. Again, I think this is 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:18.880 this is a warning sign right here. Uh. And this 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:20.960 would this would later on you would see an interview 1:15:21.040 --> 1:15:23.920 with this detective saying, yeah, we should have seen it 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:27.760 coming because he was he was raving about werewolves. Um, 1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:30.080 and it turns out he killed all these people in 1:15:30.120 --> 1:15:32.040 this hotel and was blaming it on some sort of 1:15:32.080 --> 1:15:35.360 mythological beast. What's the name of the true crime podcast 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:40.479 about Rick the uh, the room thief serial killer. Maybe 1:15:40.520 --> 1:15:44.840 it's called Paradise Retreat. Anyway. At the Paradise Retreat, Jason 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.360 and Diane are like, Wow, it's so much it's so 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:50.280 nice to get away from vacation. And they're giving each 1:15:50.320 --> 1:15:52.840 other back rubs and talking about what they're gonna do 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:55.320 once the trip is over. I think, you know, they're like, well, 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.160 we're in love. Now, we've got to find a way 1:15:57.200 --> 1:16:00.200 to see each other. But then oh, the move fun, 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:04.120 and Jason starts yet again his pro form a wolf out. 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:07.439 He starts jiggling in the moonlight, and he dashes away, 1:16:08.240 --> 1:16:11.040 and Diane is like, Jason, what's happening? You know, are 1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:14.600 you undergoing some kind of hideous transformation? And she she 1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:18.120 chases him and he starts snarling, and I think at 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:22.360 one point, while he's snarling and she's gasping, he actually says, 1:16:22.560 --> 1:16:27.760 I am a wolf now, because definitely the subtitles in 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:32.840 Dutch say it been wolf. I'm I am a wolf. Okay, 1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:36.280 I mean it been work beast, it's been wolf. I 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:39.040 mean it's hard on vacation when you you know you're 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:41.840 having to share a bathroom and occasionally you turn into 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:45.840 a werewolf. It's everybody knows what that's like. It's really 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:48.479 bad sharing a bathroom with a werewolf because the drains, 1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:51.760 the drains, i mean just just totally clogged. Oh and 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:54.559 then finally we get to see a full transformation scene. 1:16:55.280 --> 1:16:57.800 I'm not sure exactly what you call this technique. It's 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:00.960 the kind that has match cuts where you're progressively more 1:17:01.040 --> 1:17:05.439 wolfy in each shot. Um and as he becomes a werewolf. 1:17:05.520 --> 1:17:07.479 One thing, I don't know if you notice the same thing. 1:17:07.560 --> 1:17:10.200 So his face of course becomes more here suit, but 1:17:10.400 --> 1:17:13.679 it also becomes more wrinkled. And I was wondering why 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:17.040 why is he more wrinkly as a wolf? M yeah, 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:18.600 I don't know. He ends up he does end up 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:21.800 looking older. I don't know if that was just part 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:23.640 of the just part of the design or they, you know, 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:25.720 if they put a lot of thought into that. But yeah, 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:27.599 he does look a bit a bit more aged as 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:30.519 a wolf. But then, of course we're into the end 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:32.439 of game here, so he turns into a wolf. He's 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:36.200 got underbyte fangs, he's hairy now, and he morphs, and 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.320 the question is is he going to kill his his 1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:41.760 beloved Diane, And he's not really himself anymore. He doesn't 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:44.800 seem to recognize her, so he just runs around and 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:47.400 then you think he's going to kill Diane. But then 1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:51.040 Rick arrives to save the day. Of course, so there's 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:54.280 a chase scene involving the three characters that is extremely 1:17:54.400 --> 1:17:56.920 dimly lit. Uh and in the end Rick has to 1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:00.519 shoot the work beasts to save Diane. Uh and uh, 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:02.760 And he's not immediately dead he gets shot and then 1:18:02.800 --> 1:18:06.280 he starts wandering into a cave having vision visions of 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:10.000 the ritual again and uh, and they kind of play 1:18:10.040 --> 1:18:12.040 it for pity. It's kind of sad, like, you know, 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:15.920 poor poor beast um. And then he gets shot one 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:19.880 last time and he turns back into Jason form and dies, 1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:23.400 and Diane just seems kind of confused. Now they do 1:18:23.560 --> 1:18:25.759 have a nice little bit at the end. It actually 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.120 got me because he guns down the werewolf Rick does. 1:18:29.200 --> 1:18:30.960 He runs over and he's like, check doing that thing, 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:32.920 would you always do? You know, check and see if 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:36.760 the monster is dead. And then wolf Claw comes comes 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:38.639 up from the ground and grabs him by the neck, 1:18:39.720 --> 1:18:41.600 and we get that synth music again. And I was like, 1:18:41.680 --> 1:18:43.760 oh my goodness, they're gonna do it. They're gonna have 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:46.800 him kill Rick and we're gonna have this dark ending 1:18:47.120 --> 1:18:51.160 on a Wednesday night on CBS Night. But now then 1:18:51.200 --> 1:18:53.920 he dies, then the hand falls dead and becomes a 1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:56.240 human arm, so that that would have been a good reveal. 1:18:56.320 --> 1:18:59.200 So he reaches up, he he strangles Rick, and then 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:02.400 he revered olds that actually Rick was the killer the 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:06.720 whole time. Yeah, I mean, I still kind of think 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:09.560 it's the case that Rick's the real killer. But like 1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:12.200 I said, Diane does not, She doesn't seem all that said. 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:15.840 She just seems like, what like she's very confused. And 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:18.920 then uh, Diane and Rick walk away together and they 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:21.280 stare at the moon looking at the moon like I 1:19:21.439 --> 1:19:24.479 know it was you. And then we see the dead 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:28.479 Jason and his his eyeballs turn yellow for some reason. 1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:32.759 Do you do you understand what that? What that implies 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:35.360 that he's not dead or the curse is not over, 1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:38.760 or maybe it's trying to be clever and saying like 1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:41.479 the curse is not just about Rick, it's about like 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.320 a lot like it's about our our culture as a whole. 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:47.760 It's about our our the way we handle work in America. 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:49.840 I don't know, no time to hash it out. Roll 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:52.360 credits yep, yep, and then we gotta we gotta cut 1:19:52.400 --> 1:19:55.280 to the local news. Oh man, and that this is 1:19:55.439 --> 1:20:00.000 this is so so made for TV. Yeah, yeah, absolutely 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:04.760 it um clearly they had to they had to land 1:20:04.840 --> 1:20:07.479 this one in a certain amount of time. But I 1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:10.080 feel like they told up. They told a fun story 1:20:10.160 --> 1:20:11.760 for the most part. You know, it's very much at 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:14.640 wearable story. By the books, there's not nothing really in 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:20.360 this film that's surprising Death Moon, as we encounter again 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:25.320 it's ultimately just a TV monster movie, But it is 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.040 kind of interesting that it does seem to get into 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:32.120 some very shallow treatment of um of of some some 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:37.640 topics such as American work culture, stereotypical Hawaiian vacations, the 1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:42.200 legacy of colonialism, and cultural and inherited guilt. Like there 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:45.160 seemed to be some of these ideas floating around in 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:48.280 the script and in the final product that we have 1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:51.720 with Death Moon, they're just again very shallow, not not 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:54.960 really explored. But the particles are there, you know what 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:57.480 I'm saying. You can almost see them on the horizon 1:20:57.640 --> 1:21:00.160 and you wonder if they're a mirage or not. Yeh. 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.320 It's one of these moments where it's like, students, what 1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:07.519 is this movie almost but not quite saying? Or what 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:10.559 is this movie? Students? What is this movie? Um almost 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:13.560 but not saying about any of these topics? What is 1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:17.400 it almost confronting but then shying away from completely? Oh? 1:21:17.520 --> 1:21:19.639 I mean, that's actually one of my favorite things about 1:21:19.680 --> 1:21:22.519 sort of lower brow movies, B movies made for TV 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:25.559 junk and all that is, sometimes they expose interesting kind 1:21:25.640 --> 1:21:29.519 of vague anxieties and awarenesses that aren't even really fully 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:32.960 recognized by the creators. Yeah, and in and in other 1:21:33.040 --> 1:21:35.479 cases too. It's the kind of thing where you could 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:38.680 make an argument that, say, a great artist could seriously 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:42.640 contemplate these ideas in a film, but but maybe not, 1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:46.040 maybe not well or or you know, the bar would 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:47.960 be so much higher to pull it off at like 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:50.639 a at a like a you know, a high level, 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:54.320 but at the low level of the B of B cinema. Yeah, 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.719 almost anything is fair game. I got an alternate title, 1:21:58.680 --> 1:22:03.200 Work Beast goes Well Beast. Oh no, not very good. Huh. 1:22:03.920 --> 1:22:06.519 You mean like work Beasts goes west to the Hawaiian Islands, 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:09.400 or are you proposing a sequel where work Beast comes 1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:12.880 back and goes on even further. I don't know, it 1:22:12.960 --> 1:22:15.439 goes to Japan or something else. Oh yeah, work Beast 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:19.000 goes east and goes Uh. I mean work Beast takes Manhattan. 1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:22.240 There's so many directions you could go in. Um, well, 1:22:22.280 --> 1:22:24.479 work Beast is a great title. I want to see 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:27.320 someone take it and run with it. Um so uh. 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:30.760 You know, if if you're out there listening, go for it. Uh. 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:33.120 And certainly I would love to hear from any listeners 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:37.040 who uh you know with with with Dutch backgrounds, Uh, 1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:38.760 you know who can who can tell it it really 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:41.479 fill us in about the work beast thing. Yeah, but 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:44.120 also if you know about any notable Hawaiian or Polynesian 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.920 horror movies or or other like be sci fi movies, 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.320 anything like that that that we didn't come across, Yes, 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:55.360 right us. So this is the point in the episode 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.960 where we were going to have a section discussing the 1:22:58.080 --> 1:23:02.240 mere notion of were wolves in Hawaii, uh, the Hawaiian 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:05.680 islands where there have never been wolves, uh, and get 1:23:05.760 --> 1:23:10.320 into a little related Polynesian mythology, because there doesn't seem 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:14.599 to be anything quite like a Western werewolf in Hawaiian 1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:18.679 folklore and mythology for a variety of reasons. However, there 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:23.240 are human animal hybrids, there are animal transformations, there are 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:27.360 heroes and gods that have hybrid qualities. There's there's a 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:31.080 hog child. There, even the dog men, and even at 1:23:31.160 --> 1:23:35.680 least one quote unquote cannibalistic dog man that is from 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:40.519 the work of early American folkloreist Martha Warren Beckwith So 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:44.280 these are not Western werewolves. And to be clear, what 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:47.080 we see in Death Moon is very much a classic 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:50.760 horror movie Wolfman, you know, a wolfman born out of 1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:56.080 Western um were wolf beliefs and ideas. Uh So, anyway, 1:23:56.400 --> 1:23:57.880 there's a lot to break down here, and I kept 1:23:57.920 --> 1:24:01.440 adding information to the notes on really late did Hawaiian mythology, 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:04.120 and Joe was digging up some stuff as well, and 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.000 then we just realized it was getting a bit long, 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:08.000 and this might be might be more appropriate for a 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:11.439 future episode of stuff to blow your mind itself, either 1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:14.960 focusing on Hawaiian mythology and a broader sense, or doing 1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:19.879 a kind of survey of beast man myths in various cultures. 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:22.040 So if that's the sort of thing you're interested in, 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:28.599 let us know. Now for the rest of you, if 1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:31.439 you're wondering, well, where can I see Deathman there there 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:33.720 there are three ways to go about it. One is 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:37.800 find yourself probably a European VHS release of this. Uh 1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:39.800 you're not gonna find it on DVD or Blu ray, 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:42.640 and then have a VHS player so you can watch it, 1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:45.760 I think, as far as I can tell. Yeah, that's 1:24:45.800 --> 1:24:48.200 the only way it was ever released to h to 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:50.800 home audiences. Another way you can see this movie is 1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:54.880 by traveling back in time to and catching it on 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.400 the Wednesday night line up on CBS, or you can 1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:01.080 simply go to YouTube, where again, there's been a rip 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:06.000 of it with with Dutch subtitles on YouTube since so 1:25:06.280 --> 1:25:09.800 I imagine it's still around. Um, nobody seems to care. 1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:12.519 That's that's where you can watch it. Uh, and it's 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:15.080 it's not a bad rip, It's not perfect. Ultimately, I 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:16.960 think i'd love to see this film pop up on 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:20.479 Blu Ray. Um, I'd love to see what I mean, 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:23.519 if restored footage is even possible, I would like to 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:25.800 see it. I think it's ultimately kind of a fun 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:28.920 film that could do with a little more exposure. So 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:31.880 shout Factory if you're listening, get on it. Give me that, 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:35.240 Give me that that Deathman and Blu Ray the VHS 1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:38.200 cover for whatever release this was. I guess this. This 1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:41.680 may have been uh Dutch or Germany or something that 1:25:41.760 --> 1:25:44.960 says wolf smand this really gives the wrong idea about 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:48.600 the movie. Yeah, it looks, uh, you know, very exploitive 1:25:49.200 --> 1:25:51.439 based on this VHS box art, I can imagine the 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:55.200 disappointment of people who picked it up. All right, if 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:57.120 you want to listen to more Weird How Cinema. You 1:25:57.240 --> 1:25:59.960 can find it in the Stuff table in your Mind 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:03.320 podcast feed wherever you get your podcast. Weird How Cinema 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:06.439 comes out on Friday's that's uh, that's our time to 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:09.840 put the science aside and just focus on a on 1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:12.400 a weird movie. 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