WEBVTT - Conversations About Street Culture

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No

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<v Speaker 1>Sillers Podcast with your host. Now funk that with your

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<v Speaker 1>low glasses, Malone, Are we ready? I feel like it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so long since your did podcast, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to break y'all in because it's been so long. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so long. It's all right. It's just like riding a bike.

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<v Speaker 1>Riding a bike, right back on it. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. I don't even know. That just sounded crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a pervert, you know what's funny. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter what girls says, it's gonna sound like a pervert.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why that's just because that's what men are thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not because that's what men are thinking. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think. I didn't think what she said was. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think yeah, it was like jump back on it

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<v Speaker 1>and write it again. Yes, you know, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>y'all right because this what I was thinking about. What

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you all about. It is

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<v Speaker 1>um Today somebody was on Twitter and they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me about Fat Joe and there's some brothers from

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<v Speaker 1>a movement. The movement is called the FBA Foundational Black

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<v Speaker 1>America Um. It's a movement that focuses on black people

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<v Speaker 1>that are the descendants of you know, slave the slave

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<v Speaker 1>trade to America, to this part of the continent, not

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<v Speaker 1>the southern part right here, right um, and the movement

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<v Speaker 1>targets the needs of those people. So it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>dope movement created by Tarkna Sheet Tarika's um really smart

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<v Speaker 1>dead hidden colors, super super dope dude, like really smart,

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<v Speaker 1>really researched, really well. Um. It's also a branch of

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<v Speaker 1>a d o s right. America can descend it a

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<v Speaker 1>slaves and the movement is pro black, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like black all black. It's like this specific niche, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, right um. But it was something that was

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<v Speaker 1>bothering me, and a dude was asking me. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like giving Fat Joe ship and he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the type of person that left Fat Joe say nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, I don't think I've ever been

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<v Speaker 1>bothered with Fat Joe saying nigga. You know. He was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>see that's the problem. You know, he's not one of us,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what do you mean one of us? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where are you from? He's like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gang banging on me. And I was like, no, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you from? Like in the country, not not not

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<v Speaker 1>like cripping where you're from, like not glasses low cripping

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<v Speaker 1>where you're from, but like where are you from? But

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<v Speaker 1>it hit me and that's what I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about. So these ideas, right come from the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was talking to my dad. My dad was

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<v Speaker 1>born in forty seven this year, he'll be seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and I was asking him, do he does

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<v Speaker 1>he remember when the term nigga became like a term

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<v Speaker 1>of endearment. He was like, did your generation started that? Said,

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<v Speaker 1>before your generation? If somebody said nicked to you, if

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<v Speaker 1>he was a white person, for sure, that was sucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>If a black person called you and Nike, it was

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<v Speaker 1>mad at you, like nigga where my money? And it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was meant to be, you know, fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, he remember Richard Pryor using it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know as a kind of a segue, right, But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a term of endearment until my generation, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>is eight s and up. And he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like regular black people don't talk like that. That ship

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<v Speaker 1>is the streets. And I'm like, I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, He's right, like the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and that's where the cultural break happens, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>the same thought about hip hop, right, hip hop isn't black,

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<v Speaker 1>Well it is black, but hip hop before anything else

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<v Speaker 1>is street. It's the street urban perspective, culturally, like us

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<v Speaker 1>looking out of a window. And I did a pot

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<v Speaker 1>on this about hip hop before, but it was important

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<v Speaker 1>because it's getting to a place to wear. How do

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<v Speaker 1>I say this where the everyday black person feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they have entirely too much say about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets. And the Internet made that happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>social media made that happened to where a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the lingo that we started, you know on the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has been adopted by all of Black America.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta realize Slain come from the street. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he put sling in the records, right because hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>come from the street, the street urban. Um we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Hurt Kirk was a graffiti artist, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was tagging on walls. It's illegal. He's a criminal, right, Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They were talking about somebody earlier than him, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's multiple forefathers. When you start talking about hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>They were talking about uh disco King Mario, who was

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<v Speaker 1>from a gang called the Black Space in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bronx, the gang members criminals. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>all of this culture, you know, comes from the street.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized what was bothering me about him? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What it was was he was telling me he was

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<v Speaker 1>an accountant, and then you know, he didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>in the hood, but he's a black man. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking to myself, like, well, what the funk

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<v Speaker 1>make you think you should have any right? And who

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<v Speaker 1>uses the time niked as a term of endearment. That's

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<v Speaker 1>something that people that grew up in my lifestyle came

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<v Speaker 1>up with, actually me and my generation. And that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to have this disconnect, you know what I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if if a movement can isolate itself from all of

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<v Speaker 1>black people as a whole and like, Okay, I'll represent

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<v Speaker 1>this niche of black people, then what would the funk

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<v Speaker 1>would make him think that? I'm not gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>well wait a minute, If that's it, then I've represent

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<v Speaker 1>the streets. Nigger has become it's hip hop. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's become like a part of culture. Got white people,

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<v Speaker 1>like the kids that are into hip hop or into

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<v Speaker 1>that culture, they say nigga and it doesn't mean for

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<v Speaker 1>them like oh you're a nigga. They're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my boy, this is my nig Yeah you got

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. Yeah, they they don't even care. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>say it. Like I said, it's in the zone. So

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<v Speaker 1>but then they say, okay, well it's not nigger, it's nigga. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So where did that become where it's like because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I too was like, okay, well it's not nigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you guys are calling each other niggas. So

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<v Speaker 1>so so this and this is what I want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So first off, no ceilings, glasses low, I got my

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<v Speaker 1>dog Asia, I got my people read right here, forel

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<v Speaker 1>me doubling up. Y'all know are we doing this? We're

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<v Speaker 1>about to really shift this ship in the overdrive. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my issue, right because that's black people's question.

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<v Speaker 1>The average black person is like, well, nobody that's not

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<v Speaker 1>black should use the term nigga. And I'm thinking, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's not streaked. She used the term nigga, So then

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say and I never said nigga until I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing hip hop, start hanging with I didn't say nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say. I didn't say, you start hanging with

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<v Speaker 1>the ni street I had, Like my lingo came from

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw on TV or what was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>most people's experience as far as how they take in

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, and then you have the actual culture itself. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me define hip hop right. Hip hop is urban

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<v Speaker 1>street culture, right, densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a level of poverty to go with that oppression of

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<v Speaker 1>being black. It's not just black, it's a level of

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<v Speaker 1>poverty that's needed in the vicinity to create this culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a black man in Beverly Hills can be oppressed.

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<v Speaker 1>He can be poured over and sweated and be rich.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wealthy athletes that are oppressed right now today by

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA as far as when it comes to them

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<v Speaker 1>raising levels of success. But the poverty part is what

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<v Speaker 1>forces the culture out. I mean, it's the connection of both.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when this attorney who grew up in his nice,

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<v Speaker 1>middle class neighborhood. And he was like, yeah, well I'm black,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, well, I don't think you really should

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<v Speaker 1>have saying who uses the term nigga? You're not street

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, you shouldn't be using the term

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<v Speaker 1>using it. Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, so he

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<v Speaker 1>is using it unless he listens to music, because his

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<v Speaker 1>partner is walking outside the house, if he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle class neighborhood, unless they listen to the rap songs

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<v Speaker 1>white kids in middle class suburbian I mean, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see him sitting like, you know, somewhere. What's up, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're an attorney. He's an attorney. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you this is my life, like right, my dad, you know, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was like, yeah, nigga, my older brothers, nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel so, but baby, baby, he did come from that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said he didn't come from He said he

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in the middle class black experience and he's

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<v Speaker 1>an attorney now. And I just thought to myself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why the funk would you think you would have say

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<v Speaker 1>over who says the word nigger? And I thought about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe he feels like Okay, white people used it

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<v Speaker 1>negatively about Black people that were slept, but all them

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<v Speaker 1>black people was poor, no pressed black people, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>me like, So again we go back to the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's forcing culture. So urban street culture is what

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop is. Densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. The culture

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<v Speaker 1>that's developed there in those communities, Watts, Compton, those communities,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronx, you know, I mean the places in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bronx where it's like that, the places in Brooklyn, Queens, Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. The culture

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<v Speaker 1>that that type of oppression and poverty forces is what

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<v Speaker 1>we call hip hop. Right that that's that's the flavor

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<v Speaker 1>of the month. Unless you're a young kid that's playing

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking sacks and now you're making jazz because a

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist terrorist it forced terrorists to he responded and made jazz,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still produces hip hop. Right, street is crime. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>street is crime. But if you know somebody is a

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<v Speaker 1>street nigga, you're criminal. So to be street is crime.

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<v Speaker 1>To be in the streets as you're where the crime is.

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<v Speaker 1>See like a lot of these terminologies, And I said

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<v Speaker 1>this on another podcast as well. Like when people say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm outside, that means you're where the action is, where

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<v Speaker 1>shootouts are happening. It doesn't literally mean really, I never

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<v Speaker 1>when I say I'm outside, I'm saying i'm outside. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not Again, there's a real term. Again there's so

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<v Speaker 1>who said that. That's what that means. I'm a street

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<v Speaker 1>nigger and I created the term. This is culturally, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so it's the new we active, like we active doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean like I'm jogging. But I'm just laughing because we

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<v Speaker 1>always say we are, like when you use a little

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<v Speaker 1>kid like or go outside, and I'm not. We outside

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<v Speaker 1>is the combination. That's what I'm saying. I'm outside. We outside?

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<v Speaker 1>That means we're looking for the action? Does it literally

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<v Speaker 1>mean domain? When I did post we outside, I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the action because I'm outside and as heat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and was looking that's action, not the action. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. I wasn't active. He was looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>turn up to me. Yeah, not like like yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to Yeah. It was in theory like what

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<v Speaker 1>the function would be, but not really where you would be.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not going to function. The function is a

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood gathering where you guys go to in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>class part as a party, a function. Right from the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>we go to functions, right, I went to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of functions, of course you have and you see how

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<v Speaker 1>functioning it functions. Yeah, it functions, it functions. It was

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<v Speaker 1>function So that that was the thought I was having.

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<v Speaker 1>So the term streaked is crime, right, crime written streaked

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean like the pavement where the lines are marked outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It means the crime written communities, right like crime crime

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<v Speaker 1>where crime is happening that street. A street nigga is

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal. The term, like I said, real nigga was

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<v Speaker 1>created as a as an achievement for somebody who was

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<v Speaker 1>a street nigga, because if you was a street nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>you wasn't trying to be a doctor. You gotta remember

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<v Speaker 1>like terms like doctors, lawyers, attorneys, those are great terms

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<v Speaker 1>in America. And if you're like caught up in crime

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<v Speaker 1>in these densely populated crime written neighborhoods, those things don't

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<v Speaker 1>look obtainable, you know, doctor, lawyer. So do you create

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<v Speaker 1>you know real nigga. That that's the elite term. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. Why doesn't it look obtainable, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point of oppression and poverty. It's a blinding thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a real limiting thing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta think humanity, Like Russia is gonna always be

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<v Speaker 1>for Ukraine, they're right next door to each other. Russia

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<v Speaker 1>worst enemy can really never be America's too far. They

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<v Speaker 1>can have a cold war that they never fought because

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<v Speaker 1>it's too fucking folks. Wan't be doing all them fly

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<v Speaker 1>bars all the time. You can't stick at war all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, like you gotta put some troopers dead take

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<v Speaker 1>It would take too much energy and work and it's

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<v Speaker 1>too dangerous. China right now, the worse enemy is Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hold up y'all doing too much with America.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember they worse enemies for a while was Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>It was close. People beef with what's in the vicinity.

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<v Speaker 1>Real beasts are within the vicinity. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at most El Salvadorians, they don't they

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<v Speaker 1>beef with Mexicans. Yeah, I mean again, it's kind of common, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like, um, you you fight who you're close to,

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<v Speaker 1>especially poor people, because it's limited resources. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>I was making will us. He kept asking me, why

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<v Speaker 1>was I so comfortable with Fat Joe using the N word?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I've been to where fat Joe is from.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat Joe is from the streets where that's how people talk.

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<v Speaker 1>My question to him, even as a black man, why

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<v Speaker 1>the funk are you asking me? Who should use them?

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<v Speaker 1>Where you should be asking me? But somehow these middle class,

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy black people feel entitled to have us say in

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<v Speaker 1>this street culture, you're not a criminal. You shouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>be talking like this. You should be an outstanding citizen

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<v Speaker 1>for our kids to look and say, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be glasses or you know this guy, I can

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<v Speaker 1>be doctor Dick fore me like that's the option. But somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the elite level of middle class, because

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<v Speaker 1>of hip hop the music, people have lowered their standards.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know, you could have a dude.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, I got a good job, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the FedEx manager you know what I mean. He's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at work eight hours. They real nigga ship.

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<v Speaker 1>No it's not bro, it's actually real manager ship's real manship,

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<v Speaker 1>real fathership. Like you don't why are you allowing the

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<v Speaker 1>concentrate right of of urban struggle to be your pinnacle

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<v Speaker 1>like you have it. It's weird to me because even

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<v Speaker 1>the whole complete movement has adopted America as part of

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<v Speaker 1>their slogan, like like people wanted from None of us

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<v Speaker 1>is proud Americans. We fucking hate America like you enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>us and it's fucked up. I have figured out a

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<v Speaker 1>way to be like, yeah, we built this country, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is dope to have claim is something you built.

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<v Speaker 1>I can never be That's why I'm saying, but I

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<v Speaker 1>could never be American because you know, it's like my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad could never be like like, uh, you could

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<v Speaker 1>have all the conservative views, but because racist white people

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<v Speaker 1>as conservatives in his mind is like, yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel about America, like I can never

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<v Speaker 1>claim somebody that don't claim me. So wait, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that since he doesn't understand it, he shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>it or have a say, so who says it? That's

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<v Speaker 1>my issue? My issue is what would make him think

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to ask me? First off, why do you think? Honestly?

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<v Speaker 1>It's more cringe e to me when African people say nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Then when says like when I hear like, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>like like the comedian, like the comedian uh black Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Blacks would sounds Yeah, it's like that should be cringe e. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really um talked too many Africans that say

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<v Speaker 1>that because you know why, that's not where they're from. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they say that it's sad because they've been around us.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle class black people said, because they've been around us,

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<v Speaker 1>because they heard it. It's not something that was like

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<v Speaker 1>shared amongst the black community. We're not going to the

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<v Speaker 1>black elite opportunities and they walk around like, what's up, nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a commune black thing. Yeah, I'm not from

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<v Speaker 1>a middle class from middle class, but I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in important poor community. I just didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>best of both worlds. I mean yeah, because I went

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<v Speaker 1>through you know, where did you grow up at? Um? Everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your main place of growing up? You were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to become impressionable Asia impressionable in the valley Um, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I mean I lived awhere, I lived off

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<v Speaker 1>I lived off figure on a hundred and ninth. I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived Gardina, So what junior high elementary, junior high high school,

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<v Speaker 1>junior high high school. Where'd you go? Where you go

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<v Speaker 1>to high school? At Palm Dell Palm? Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is we I lived in the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>We're from Guardina, and my mom she I wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school in the valley because she went.

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<v Speaker 1>She got busted out there when she was in school,

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<v Speaker 1>bust the taft to Yeah, you know, she went to Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>went to Grant and I kicked out and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got sent to Granada Hills and I finished Granada Hills.

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Granada Hills considered like a worse school than Grant. Granada

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Hills was like Granada Hills was actually a mixture of

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<v Speaker 1>people because they got bust a lot of I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends from Watts, from the West Side,

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<v Speaker 1>like over there by Hamilton's. They were getting bused to

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<v Speaker 1>my school, a lot of them. Like you know, the culture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mixture. We had Indians, whites, everybody had

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<v Speaker 1>their own little clicks. But it was weird to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And like he asked me, why was I comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>Fat Joe saying nigga? And I'm like, because Fat Joe

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in the streets that we grew up in. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point. Like my homeboy Mando from my gang, right,

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<v Speaker 1>My homeboy Mando from seven Street, right, Mando grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with us his whole life. He was adopted by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me for telling his private business, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he you've seen him, you would know it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was adopted by the matriarch family of my

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood since you know, months old. So he's a nigga

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. He's everybody nigga. That's how everybody around

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<v Speaker 1>him talk. Yeah, nigga. This then the third nigg feel me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how it works. So when you grow up

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<v Speaker 1>with us, that's why you become whatever we are because

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<v Speaker 1>culturally we become the same thing. That's how we talk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how my mother talked, That's how my daddy talked.

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>This is how my people talk. This is how the

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>neighbors talk. There's some neighbors who didn't, but most people

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:59.200
<v Speaker 1>talk just like this. I mean, hill coaches at school

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 1>talk like this. Said that nigga, get the hell up

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, and nobody told the principle because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how the Nigga's talk. So I just wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion if y'all can even understand what I'm saying, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the ownership of the term, the ownership of that culture

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<v Speaker 1>is the streets more than it's just black. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's poor people that grow up with us and and

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<v Speaker 1>pick up right with us. Feel me that are you

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<v Speaker 1>know this this is might be the I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I literally hate I severely dislike it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I may relate to a person that grew up next

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<v Speaker 1>door to me. That's a that's ah. Let's say if

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<v Speaker 1>he was Cuban, right, he grew up next door to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I may relate to him more than a black person

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<v Speaker 1>in Beverly Hills. Like my relation of that person to

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<v Speaker 1>be a police oppressing us somewhere. You and Beverly Hills

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.399
<v Speaker 1>going to this nice house and me going to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Watson and my dad are Compton. So yes, we can

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<v Speaker 1>relate there, But every other struggle, feel me, outside of

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>those oppressions, it's going to be a disconnect because poverty

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<v Speaker 1>is not there. Meanwhile, the same Cuban person next door

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<v Speaker 1>to me is gonna get oppressed with me. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be as poor as I am because we live

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<v Speaker 1>next to each other, so culturally we create the culture together.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Like, like we create the culture in these places,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the bad English. The slang is created by

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<v Speaker 1>us because of the lack of educational opportunities and how

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>we want to speak. I mean, if we had fantastic schools,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be as much slang. Or if the slang

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<v Speaker 1>has become trendy, it's become aware of even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking caption, you know, just texting like it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, you know, as far as like the slang,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, it makes a lot of sense. Like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, Um, I didn't necessarily grow up in the hood,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I have family that grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>the hood. But me just moving from l A coming

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<v Speaker 1>up to Um the valley area, there are certain parents

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<v Speaker 1>that I would just fall naturally be more drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>Um versus say another parent you know that's been from

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<v Speaker 1>that area for forever, Like we just wouldn't connect. Like

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 1>my you know daughter's friends her parents are white, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't connect with them. Like it just was

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, well I always end up finding a black berry,

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we just have more in common. So

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it was just it makes sense. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>I how I grew up. Some I'm more comfortable being

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<v Speaker 1>around what I'm used to being around as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember, um, saying bitch was like a no

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<v Speaker 1>no for me, like I was not my friends like

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<v Speaker 1>what bitch And we used to look at people wrong,

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, like why they calling each other bitches and

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<v Speaker 1>ship and then was the girls that was they was

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<v Speaker 1>from the hood, like you know what I'm saying, and

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it was calling each other bitches, and me growing up

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>it was like like me and my friends, we didn't

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>do that, you know. So now I say bitch like

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just water. It's like you seasoned right by that poverty.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's mainstream though it's so popular. But I'm gonna

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you it is right, But that doesn't mean culturally

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it didn't belong to somebody, right, And then so imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if so let's say right, because that is very much

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>something that that poor black extreme women, you know, poor

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>street women came because pretty much if you in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up wherever whoever in your community, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>control it. But you know, bitch, right, bitch, bitch, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, now you got it right, you

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 1>got the flame. Imagine somebody not culturally tied to it

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>telling you how to talk. That's oh, I'm a woman.

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a white woman saying I don't like you saying

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the word bitch around me, or I don't like you

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>saying the word bitches, like bitches not for this ain't

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And that's my point. It's a tough it's

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>a tough debate, right, and but that's how I feel altogether.

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's like for you to be asking like are

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you street? What are your qualifications in the street? But

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<v Speaker 1>where do we but where is it to where? Okay,

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>this man that came from a middle class he's an

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>attorney and he can have you know, some type of influence.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Where do we take accountability? And say, okay, maybe you

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>know we can help the street, Like why is it

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<v Speaker 1>okay to just be ignorant? Like the term isn't ignorant.

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 1>It was, it's not it's not a lack of knowledge

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of what the word stand for. It's of a willingness

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<v Speaker 1>to control. But that's how he's looking at it. Well,

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the point he's ignorant, right, and and it sounds

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy because lord knows an attorney or middle class person

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>can't be ignorant. I don't know, man, But again, you

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>just don't know. So you could think we don't know

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that that we used to call black people as slaves

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>or as a we don't give a fuck. Took ownership,

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like we decided that, you know what if these things

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<v Speaker 1>are not possible to obtain right rooted in this oppression

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and poverty because it is severe and it and it

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>goes back to that Samet mar Luther King quote, Uh,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you can tell a man to pick himself up by

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>his bootstraps, but it's a cruel jest to tell a

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>bootless man to pick himself up but bootstraps. Right. So yeah,

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>we could look at everybody that come from those environments

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>where I come from and say, well, you could make

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 1>it if I made it. It's some people don't have boots,

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 1>just not there. That's why we're supposed to take care

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of each other. Remember, the ghetto wasn't created for us.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>It was created for Jewish people. We just took over.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It was created for Jewish that's what it was made for. Well,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>actually a Jewish it's actually considered part of that ship.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>There was the first people in the game. Remember we

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a place in America. The first projects probably

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for black people. Most likely, if you're looking up,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>it won't be probably be for like somebody that's not

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>an English white person because they you know, the English

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>white person is super oppressive to Italian Irish, I mean, um, Spanish, Spaniards,

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, darker you get, it's gonna get tougher to

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>be that type of pressure. So it was just a

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>weird conversation and he felt like he had said, I'm

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.239
<v Speaker 1>fat jealous from the streets. You know, this man from

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the fours Projects, like, you know, he grew up with

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's that's how they talk. Now, I'm not saying everybody

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>from other communities shouldn't accept it. I'm saying if Fat Joe,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>if the people of Forest Heelers that grew up in

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>his community was saying you shouldn't say it, he wouldn't

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be saying it. He would have respected they mind because

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>them is his loved ones and cultural you know, confidant

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and people. He would have been like that. But they

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>accepted it. Now the world don't need to accept it,

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>but don't ask another street person accepted. Because I got

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a homeboy name Mandough, that's my nigga. Now, I'm not

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>saying you gotta expect Mando to same nigga. You just

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>don't gotta talk to Mando. But if you call yourself,

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the triple my homeboy that grew up

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>with me. Just because your skin looked like my skin,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that don't mean enough. Just because our grandmother was oppressed

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the same way, you know, great great great grandmother was

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>oppressed the same way, That don't mean enough. This nigga

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>right here starving with me. Every day we ate together.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>The same sound was broken in half shared it. Mando

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>gave me my first auncer Sean when I couldn't get

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>my own. Hey man, get you some money. You thank

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you for the talk to him crazy and tell me

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>about Oh you know what are our great great great

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>grandfathers went through nigga. Your great great grandfather could have

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>been a house nigga. Nigga could have been on the

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>porch nigga screaming at my grandfather. This nigga right here,

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we starved together. This my nigga. Let's see, that's where

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can have you know, somebody out you know,

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a young you know some people and you don't know that. Okay,

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>this person is grew up with me. You know what

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. He's from the streets. So yeah, he running

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>around here saying, nigga, can you have another group or

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>some niggas? That's like, why this nigga running around here

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>saying nigga? Now they start tripping on them on him

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>because oh, he ain't supposed to be saying that. And yeah,

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I think about it because of the one of our friends.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>They don't say it with us, but they know for

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>some reason, or they won't say it in front of

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because because it's not because maybe that person ship is

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>not legit. Like I'm not saying that they're not legit

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. Maybe they was always choosing to say it

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>as a way to refer, you know, to to y'all

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>bond or you know whatever. He whatever she thought was

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>going on. But Momie, ain't gonna he gonna say it

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in front of anybody, and you're gonna have to say

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>something to him because this is how he talked. Got it.

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. You could be somewhere and they

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know this, and now they're gonna flash on you

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>on y'all because you're They're like, you're taking up for

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>him and he don't look like us. Most likely that's

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>not what's happening in the street. And if you go

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to the street. I can go to a street in Houston,

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's the street, they're gonna see him and talk

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to him and they can be like, Okay, it won't

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>even be a question. It only starts being a question

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>when you don't understand how it could happen because you're

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>not from the street, or you from somewhere where there

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>are no poor other people besides black poor people. And

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that probably is just very rare. Maybe in the Midwest.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>There's some places in the Midwest where you know, it'll

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>just be poor black people. They got poor white people.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's like it's always a different

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>culture or race that grow up in poor places. What

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, even if it's a few so you don't

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>hear other street rappers or hip hop artists like Fat

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Joe says this, Nobody is scared of fat Who the

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>fuck is Fat Joe? Fat Joe can run the fat

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like anybody else. I don't gonna fuck what they say.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not about that. I understand because he's

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>street and on street, and I understand where you're from.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been to where his projects or I see the

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>dynamic of who lives there, so I understand how that

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>can happen in and that's important within context. Street people

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>created that term of endearment the way we use it. Yes,

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>those street people were black, but they were not just black.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>They were streaked black people. My dad hates that I

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>use it, that nigga use it. He black. He hate

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I use it. I wish y'all just throw the way

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a word not that is ours. Y'all just keep saying

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>brother or whatever y'all say, and he look nigga or

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>now you want to and that's how they use niggah.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's my point I'm saying. It's like if we

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>nish culture, it's going to keep missing what I'm saying,

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm at what I'm like, Well, I

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>think we just started really determined who could say what.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I've been this way about hip hop. I've been

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>super protective over the last five six years of hip hop, Like, no,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that person is not hip hop. That person is not

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>hip hop. That person is not hip hop because we

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta leave something for the streets. Like I'm not saying

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't listen to the music and enjoy it and

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it influence you to make the music. But that don't

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>mean you're making hip hop. You could just be a rapper.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>M hip Hop is a very specific culture. Rap is

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>just the language what I'm saying, the way we talk,

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the way we deliver the culture. But rap can be

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>employed and used to deliver any message. Fucking Joe Biden

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>could write a rap about being the president and it

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>could be a dope rap. I don't mean just because

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he's wrapping it hip hop. And that's what I'm saying, Like,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>just because you're black, you know, it doesn't make you

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>entitled to slang. It doesn't. But when you're black, in say,

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is why America's corporate America, and you

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>have you know, you're representing for all the black people.

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So if someone comes in there there saying nigga, everybody's

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at you like, oh my god. They they're not

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna say if they said, if they said that, you're

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>supposed to find them not nigga. To me, but you

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>could be, you know, in a work environment or something,

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>and you just hear this person, a person cubicle, he's

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>wrapping a song, like yeah, get my nigga singing that,

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, my niggas. But then you supposed to tell him, hey,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. But when you start talking to the streets,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>no way, Why are you supposed to tell him don't

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>do that when he's he's in his cubicle and he's

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 1>wrapping the song. It don't matter, Like that's the point,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that's that's so? Is that okay? So would that be

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 1>okay for the attorney of the middle class to be like, Okay, yeah,

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a right to say that, because now

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>now you have more of a claim to it than

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he does. Got it. But you're saying when you're trying

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to tell another person from the streets, right said like

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>what if you can, you shouldn't be read, you know,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why you know he's upset. And I

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>could tell he's an attorney. I could tell you grew

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>up in the middle class neighborhood. I could tell everything

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>about him, how he's talking to me. I can see it.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>He told me he was and I'm like, well, why

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 1>are you trying to tell somebody from where we from

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>to say, nigger, who do you think you? We cut

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your ass up? Fuck you up? And then they'll think

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you're taking another person's side. No, this

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>is somebody coaturally who say he just because because hip

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>hop and hip hop is not a black things. It

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>has it has black roots from the street. It is

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>not created by the fucking doctors or no fucking attorneys

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>or no motherfucking nothing. Them people is listening to jazz

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and top level great R and B. Then't the same

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>people that had sucked up ship to say about hip hop.

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just white people who as ships sucked up

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>said about hip hop. It was elite black people that

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>protested in w as existence who called it it wasn't music.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.439
<v Speaker 1>It was upper level black preachers. It was a lot

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of people that wasn't from the environment to understand how

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>poverty helped us form this music. Right, And that's just

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>really important when you think about it. The difference between

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>something just being black culture and something being street culture.

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>This true makes sense really is because street culture, I

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know street culture. You know what I'm saying, Like

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't even try. You know what I like, but

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you do know it, and you know some stuff you

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>pick it up. I picked it up and being a

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 1>product of two crypts and and they just was. And

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>then my grandma was just really from the streets like

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>they were really, so I had to, you know, you

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>had no choice but to be like, okay, this is

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Active and yeah, they activated, they activated,

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So I had no choice that batter. That's funny. Yeah,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>my parents said in Game Bang. Nobody directly in my family,

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but the game bang gang banging. It's not. It's not

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a gang. Banging is just banging. But gang members just

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>l a street culture. It's not anything different. Every street

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>nigg in l A is the same. If you're a

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>criminal in l A, you do the same ship. For

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the most part, my homie always be joking my boy

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>ja you all glasses? No man, you know you'd be

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>pushing gangs and ship. I'm from seven Street. I'm not

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>an advocate for all gang members. But what I'm telling

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 1>you is he's like, oh, that's not right. I said,

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>j you you a street nigger. He's like, yeah, but

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that's different. What's different if somebody was about to shoot

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>me somewhere and you got a gun. You ain't gonna

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>be like you know what glass is, dunk and let

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>me call the police and reported to the proper authority.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>You don't call the police. Neither you would do a

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>crime to advance your agenda either. The only difference is

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you not aligned with a bunch of men that are

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>do the same and you are technically because you align

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>with me. If you would do crimes with me, if

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>we was going somewhere, nikka did something you felt we

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>need to get off, and we get off together. Nigga,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>We are a game, So a game member is directly

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>related to doing crime. Like if you're a member a

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>group of a group of people that commit crimes to

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>advance their agenda, that's all it is. By definition, a

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>group of criminals are together. Mm hmm. So every individual

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>member a gangster is just a street nigga. I have

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 1>some I have so many crip questions. Just tell me,

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>let me so, okay, this whole you know, crips, bloods, right,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>my whole thing is this? Why is there so many

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>crips or hoods within a crip? Like why isn't it

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that or when did that start? Because when I was

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>looking at the video, it was like, Okay, we had

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.240
<v Speaker 1>crips and we have bloods. Then all of a sudden,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we had these different hoods. Are these different neighborhoods? Why

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>why couldn't it just be crips and bloods? Because poverty

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>does the same exact thing. It's like when you go

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to Nigeria and you say, why are you know how

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>many ethnicities there is in Nigeria, how many different languages

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>there is in Nigeria and they all Nigerians. If you

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>go over there and be like, oh, y'all just Nigerians.

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>They from different tribes, they talk different, they eat different.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>It is culturally different because poverty creates invisible barriers, and

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>then you think culturally it's unique here, Like I'm from

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and seventeen street. We think it's culturally different

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>when you cross Imperial and get to a hundred and

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>fifteen street, And that's crazy because that's that's right there.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Like that's how poverty works. Poverty and oppression forces you

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>into small boxes. Most people from where were from never

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>been to the beach. You're right, you are absolutely right,

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they have never went to the beach, They have

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>never crossed because you don't want to run into white people.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You kind of know how people be, and you'd be

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>worried about it. And the world is a scary place.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>When you pour you you you bounded to where you're

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>from because it's the safest thing that you know. That's

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>how the mental fortress that poverty and oppression is. It's

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>way more elite than you could ever imagine, way more

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>tricky and crafty and and real. What I'm saying when

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I talk to certain homies, they don't even see nothing

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>else for their life. I mean, it's like a computer,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, that's in a safe moment.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because it's like I don't I can't

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>believe that. Yeah, And that's the point, Like if you're

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>not there every day to kind of understand it, it

0:40:55.560 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even seem realistic. You ever watch Stranger Things, Yes, okay,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the ghetto is the upside down, mm hmm, it's right there,

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like it's not real. It don't even

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>seem real, like you like think about the world, like

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 1>hip hop is not about being relatable, it's about being

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a journey into another life, another world, like the Upside

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Down the upside down just looks like, you know, Hawkins,

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the middle school, but I mean that the community and

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But when you go to the upside there,

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you realize this is different. Mhm. It's darker. It seems

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like there's monsters, but the monsters got the same purpose.

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a belief that the monsters want something worse.

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Y'all in the town, y'all working with them. Y'all opened up,

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>y'all opened uhuh, they opened the ghetto right there when

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>when she sent uh because uh one and he went

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>through the wall and all that, and they opened up.

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Y'all opened the motherfucking door to the ghetto. Their monster's

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>mother fucking with nobody at first. Their monsters was over there,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and they minded their motherfucking business that you opened up

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the door and they came out. They came like, what's

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>going on? Who are y'all? You gotta watch it? Well,

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Age, I don't know if you really

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>did you watch it at all? None of them. That's

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>how the the monster popped up, Like who the fund is? Y'all?

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>The monsters wasn't trying to get through We was trying

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to get to them. Hawkins was trying to get to them,

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.479
<v Speaker 1>and they was like over there. But now they're like, okay, y'all,

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's tripping y'all sending motherfucker's up in here. Motherfucker's tripping

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 1>this nigga one party telling us how fucked up y'all?

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>This many motherfucker's fake. They think about it. That's cube.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>If you grew up listening to the ice Cube your

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>whole life, what would you think of white people? They

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>are not to be trusted? And so what if one

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>what if one is the ice CUBEO the upside down?

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>He telling all the monsters the uh what's the big one?

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>What they call him the mind Flair? What if? What if?

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>What if? What if one is telling the mind flair

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>right the big Spider who's supposed to be the main person.

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>What if one is telling the mind flat man and

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's is fucked up over there and Hawkins over there

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>up up they call this to ups like that? What

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if they call him that man that ship? People fuck up?

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Look at their motherfucker you see what they look how

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they see me over here? The mind flare like all

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the bitch ass niggas it's own perspective is important with

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>all of these conversations. Perspective is everything, and and it's

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>weird that, you know, we don't accept that. It's just weird,

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, we don't want to give everybody

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>their own perspective. We feel like everybody should have the

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>same perspective, no matter how ridiculous that is. Mm hmm.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>What other the cript questions did you ask? All right,

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>so I got one. Mind might be a little silly,

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so it broke up into mid seventies. Okay,

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So the flag, I mean the the flag red rag,

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the rag right, so that represents crip, cripping or bledding. Right.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So now like I have some pants that is cripping,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a shirt that's like black, Like, how is that?

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Or how do you feel or how do gang bangers

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>feel seeing people that aren't banging wearing the colors like

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>your fan Oh it's a fanatic. Well, I just want

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>to know why the flag on the left side laid

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that up. I don't know. The nigs came up with

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that ship just one day, just one day, and it

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>just happened. It wasn't a lot of intellect about gang banging,

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>so that was something that had to happen, you needed

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to wear it on the left side. Well, remember pre

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy five, that just didn't exist. Colors didn't exist. That's

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what wouldn't exist, none of that. It was just these

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 1>were the crips and these were the Bloods. They weren't

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>even the Bloods. It was just the crips. Bloods became

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a union of everybody who didn't want to be a crypt. Yeah,

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>there's guys who was like, yeah, I'm not fucking with

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 1>what they got going on. We're gonna do our own things.

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And those guys united and became the same type of

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ship anyway, Oh no, we're Bloods ship. You're all the

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>same now united and became this. So it was people

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>who the Bloods came about because they wasn't down with

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that chip that that that Raymond and and took he

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 1>was trying to push there was like, now we're gonna

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>keep doing our own thing. And at that point, you know,

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>if you reject the advancement of you know, a movement

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying it's gonna be, you know, you're gonna

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>have trouble. When they dealt with to trouble how they

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>wanted to, they stood up for their self, and they

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>found other communities that wasn't with the program and they

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>united and kind of became what we know as bloods

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>or pie rules. Okay, what what else? What's the other

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>gript question? Well, okay, so this whole initiation thing. Um,

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you know how they say like, um, you have to

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>shoot somebody's they'll do yeah with the whole um having

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the car off, I mean the lights off, and that's

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>not true. Okay. Now the fighting, So is it do

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you have to fight to get into the gang or

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>is it just something where it's like I grew up

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in this hood and I'm a part of this. A

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are born on the set. That's normal.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that standard. Some people fight. If you was

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>really born over there and you get put on any way,

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they will never do you like a stranger. They really

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just so they really be fighting, Like, oh, ranger in

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>today's Tom, he don't get beat up bad to be

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>put on the hood. Yeah, they're going to beat him

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>up because he's a stranger. So they're gonna really see

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>what he's about. And they just want to use their

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>power incorrectly because they're not used to using it anyway,

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna apply a real type of physical force

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to that person because he's a stranger. There's no love.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>They don't know his mama, they don't know his daddy.

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>They're just fuck him up. So because they sucked him up, Okay,

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>so there's no there's okay. Now you're a part of

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the game because we sucked you up. Like that's it. Yeah,

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to get beat up to be one

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of us, that's a early initial sign that you want

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 1>to be one of us. You're willing to get beat up.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Is there ever like anyone where it's like, nah, you

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't. You can't be a part of his life

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for it, you know, a crip or just you know,

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like the thirties aren't. Notoriously, a lot of their g

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>homies are trying to cut off. But then they got

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>young homies that are um. Most gangs are trying to

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 1>expand they know I'm saying, is there ever somebody that

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>wants to be a part of Yeah, where they're like

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>there's people have been denied. It's not often, but people

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 1>have been denied. Why is it not often? Though? Like

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that that would be my only problem with

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the culture. It's it's way too assessible for anybody, right

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I mean because sure you would think something

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that represents everybody with you would be really more selective

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>about who that person is. So does your gag the

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>game comes over your family? Where's the line drawing here?

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? Game come over your family? So

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>there may be decisions or things that you have to

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>make where you have to um choose your family or

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the gang, Like what kind of decisions that? Like? What? What? Like?

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>For example, Okay, I was just watching something I can't

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:59.439
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was watching, but the guy basically, um, oh,

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>good for us. I was watching the movie Good Fellas,

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know how he had to basically um go

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>into the witness protection or whatever because he was gonna

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>tell because they were going to come to kill his

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>family and everything. What does that? Is there a limit there? Like?

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Is it like, well, I joined this gang so I

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 1>know that my family can get killed or I don't

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>quite know what you mean? And black gangs most of

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the times, nobody's gonna kill your family. They're gonna kill

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>your mom. They know your mom or your dad. They

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>just don't like you. But um, there's really a moment

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to choose your gang over your family. Nobody's

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna beat up your dad and like, stand by, watch

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>us beat up your dad. What I'm saying, it's not

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 1>like that everybody in gangbanging mothers and fathers are really

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.799
<v Speaker 1>respected in l A street culture. Like it's not like,

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's like a huge that's not cool, like

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>your mom has to be on drugs or some crazy

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 1>eazy But for the most part, if your homies really

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 1>know your parents, they respect your parents. Like it's it's

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of respecting gangs. It's not simple, you know

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that it has to be some kind

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of fraction and how they see other people. Like maybe

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.359
<v Speaker 1>if your mom is on drugs, then disrespect could happen.

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Your father is on drugs, you know, they don't respect themselves,

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>then things could go back in the streets. So I

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>get like the whole fighting thing. You know, it's sure

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be in fights, so they're gonna start you

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>right up. I'm just saying I get it, Like it's

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>about respect fighting like I mean, but the gun violence,

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the shooting, the killing, Like where is it to where

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>just as a human you're like, okay, we gotta stop killing,

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Like why is it where it's like, okay, there's drive

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>bys or there's all of these things where it's like

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>why do y'all have to kill or why does it

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>have to be so drastic, Like, I mean, well, that's

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a humanity problem. Biden and and the government literally just

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>did a press conference where they killed the leader. Right.

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>They made sure to let you know he was Ben

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Ladden's boss. They just like yeah, And he thought he

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 1>was gonna get away from it, but we showed him

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and we gunned him down, We dropped, we did a

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>fly by on him and his people, and blah blah blah,

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and we got at him. And now he knows he

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>can't mess with America or what's going on with Russia

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and Ukraine, or or China doing the military exercises on Taiwan.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's not a problem just in our community.

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a humanity problem. So wait, why do you

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>feel that it's so hard for like, if you are

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a part of the gang whatever, like it's so hard

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>for you to walk away. You can't walk away, right,

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Sure you can, you can do whatever you want. You're

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>grown as man, But why would you that's like your

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>cousin is read and he was like, okay, we're not cousin. No,

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna walk away. Or like somebody grew up with

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and being friends with your whole life, what are you

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>walking away from? Like you don't have to be a criminal,

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you can. Nobody's going to talk about Like most people

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>don't move leave. People get good jobs, Like nobody, you

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>got that good job, throw away your job and come

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 1>funk up with us. Oh you got a good job,

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you mean, and you can help somebody else get a

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>good job. But that might be for the older but

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the young the younger generation of kids, Yeah, they're not

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:33.760
<v Speaker 1>telling them, oh yeah, you don't need to go to work.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't need to come kick it at

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the in the hood. They're saying, oh, yeah, we need

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to link because we, you know, want to do some

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.760
<v Speaker 1>drugs and some some pills or get high or something

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't think, really don't. I think for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, if you really grew up with somebody

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and you got a good job, nobody like, man, you

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 1>need to funk that. Go don't go to work today,

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 1>come throw your life away with me. That's just not

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>really how it works. If you're a stranger, they want

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to test out how real you are. And that's why

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>strangers from different communities have no business going to stranger

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>communities to get put on. That's just ridiculous what I'm saying.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know people here, what do you think

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>you're doing? What I'm saying, That's why that's how they

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 1>do strangers. They like, you ain't from overious or we

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care what you've got going on. You need to

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.359
<v Speaker 1>pull up and put in your hours because you ain't

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna you ain't a day one. But if you really

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<v Speaker 1>from that community for real, I mean, nobody's going to

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>give you a hard time because you got a great job.

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Or he got a good job, you're gonna punch on him. No,

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh been and they got that job. He'll

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>be feeling most of the time, he'll feel more pressure

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of whatever is going on than

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>they will be putting pressure on him. Nobody. But you

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta call off work and come to the meeting. So

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just really um some heads where it's just beef

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:56.959
<v Speaker 1>on site, Like because somebody died, I mean somebody died,

0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and if somebody's brother somebody's sister and this is their

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>little cousin. And this is your best friend, and his

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 1>older brother got killed and these are the guys that

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:09.240
<v Speaker 1>did it. This is his cousin. Like if if somebody

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, never would happen. But if somebody's shot Britain,

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you've seen their cousin. I don't know if you'd better

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.399
<v Speaker 1>to contain yourself the same. Maybe you don't put out

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a gun, but you might rust a bit. So it's

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>all the same thing of just the human experience. What

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>do you value your life for throwing away your life

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 1>over if you don't have If your life don't have

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>much value, you may throw it away for a lot

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>less than somebody who has a lot. More like, if

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you have a a card is worth a hundred and

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars or sixty three

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and pola, and somebody steals your car and you don't

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>have insurance, I mean maybe you tripping a little bit

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>more than a person who got they being stolen and

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>got great insurance and get another one tomorrow. I mean,

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 1>poverty is is a very restrictive place. You know that

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that poverty and oppression is a very restrictive place, and

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you want to protect your assets, your greatest assets,

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes in that world it's like it's your reputation

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and maybe your greatest asset when you come from there.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a great job that pays ninety thousand. Nay,

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you ain't taking care of all your kids are the

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>best of your ability or to the best way it can.

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Your baby mama tripping because you don't got enough money

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>for all of the silly stuff that she wanted to do.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 1>So it will drive you crazy and you will be

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>some ship. And so yeah, the gangs, um, it was

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>more like put together like how the Black Panthers was

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.439
<v Speaker 1>to protect the communities and to be able to help

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to empower that. I think that's a rough idea, but

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta remember the Black Panther Party was started by adults.

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Crips were started by children. For he was for me

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about you know, um ry Me was born

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in fifty three. He started the Crypts in sixty nine.

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>He's sixteen years old. A lot of those guys too,

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 1>were on Red Devil pills in middle schools or something.

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Red Devils are like, uh, it's like an upper ship. Yeah,

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people was doing those type of

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>pills in the in the sixties. In the seventies, I

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 1>listened to an interview on keV Max podcast Shout Out

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to the o Jehomie keV Mac got a Wtube channel,

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and he talked to took his wife and she was

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>saying how all of them was popping red devils in

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>middle school. This is in the sixties, So you know,

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the that's the mind that Foster gang man,

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean the way y'all see it. So it wasn't

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily completely thought out correctly, but it's not anywhere as

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 1>restrictive as you could imagine. It's a very open idea.

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>It can be defined as very you rules, everybody kind

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of set their own rules. The only consistent rules are

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.320
<v Speaker 1>rules with them being a criminal. You can't tell the

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't snitch, right because as a criminal, they forced

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you to be accountable. Like you can't get out of accountability.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You lose all reputation. If because it's all still a

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>masculine sport. It's a proof of masculinity. So it's like

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the man who willing to be the most accountable is

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the most respected if you're gonna stand up and fight

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and go to jail and deal with your own cases

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna tell you get respect. People think

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it's about oh, you through your life away or you

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>committed a feeling, that's to respect. No, if you are

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>willing to be accountable for what happens, that's where you

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>get your respect. It's all a it's all the machieves,

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>most sport. I'm saying, proven who is a man just

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>happen to be poor people. So you know what I'm saying.

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It ain't really too many other things you could do.

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think um they expected to be to blow

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:01.959
<v Speaker 1>up the way that it did. I mean, it's all

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>over the United States, but I do see more. It's

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>more bloods now or it was more cool to be

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a blood than it was a phase where I think

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a little way was popping that day. That was a thing.

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But now it's more crypts, a ton of crypts so

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Texas. It's a lot of crips. I mean,

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's been a lot of crypts since the eighties. It's

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of crips. So, but I don't have a

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>proper count of crypts and bloods across the country. I know,

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been a different hoods a crown across this country.

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been a different hoods around the world at this point.

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:42.479
<v Speaker 1>So I mean the cript and blood part don't really

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 1>mean anything. It's really the community itself that comes together.

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Like, you know, they may have grape streets

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey, but they got different grape streets sets.

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>These guys are from this There's a Mexican grape street

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and a Black grape street. So watch video Grape is

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:08.439
<v Speaker 1>the original gang over there. Yeah, watch video Grape and

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the older black dudes like Haunch Grape

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>some of the more famous and popular names, or we'll

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>watch video Grapes. They got w VG tattoos because that

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>was the game. My gang is CV one one seven

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>or seven street watching hung seventeen street. Watch my older

0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 1>homies is just like that too. They from a content

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 1>video the Mexican Uh So, some of my older homies

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is my Black homies and some of my older homies

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Lonely Rabbit, they are Mexican. You know, at that time

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you grew up with each other. So y'alls from the

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>same game, y'alls from the same poverty. As streets. Back

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to the Fat Joe part. Like, you know, some of

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>my homies talk like that they grew up with them,

0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 1>they grew up with us. They raised me so what

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I look like Oregon with an attorney that grew up

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in middle class. About how me and my niggas came

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>up thugging and starving together. It's a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna argue with us about that. You gotta

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>be from the streets to even understand. Good looking out

1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.600
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