Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
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Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone, Are we ready? I feel like it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's been so long since your did podcast, so I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to break y'all in because it's been so long. Yes,
Speaker 1: so long. It's all right. It's just like riding a bike.
Speaker 1: Riding a bike, right back on it. There you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. I don't even know. That just sounded crazy.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a pervert, you know what's funny. No
Speaker 1: matter what girls says, it's gonna sound like a pervert.
Speaker 1: Why why that's just because that's what men are thinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not because that's what men are thinking. Because I
Speaker 1: didn't think. I didn't think what she said was. I
Speaker 1: didn't think yeah, it was like jump back on it
Speaker 1: and write it again. Yes, you know, but I got
Speaker 1: y'all right because this what I was thinking about. What
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you all about. It is
Speaker 1: um Today somebody was on Twitter and they were talking
Speaker 1: to me about Fat Joe and there's some brothers from
Speaker 1: a movement. The movement is called the FBA Foundational Black
Speaker 1: America Um. It's a movement that focuses on black people
Speaker 1: that are the descendants of you know, slave the slave
Speaker 1: trade to America, to this part of the continent, not
Speaker 1: the southern part right here, right um, and the movement
Speaker 1: targets the needs of those people. So it's a really
Speaker 1: dope movement created by Tarkna Sheet Tarika's um really smart
Speaker 1: dead hidden colors, super super dope dude, like really smart,
Speaker 1: really researched, really well. Um. It's also a branch of
Speaker 1: a d o s right. America can descend it a
Speaker 1: slaves and the movement is pro black, but it's not
Speaker 1: like black all black. It's like this specific niche, which
Speaker 1: is fine, right um. But it was something that was
Speaker 1: bothering me, and a dude was asking me. He was
Speaker 1: like giving Fat Joe ship and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're the type of person that left Fat Joe say nigga.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I don't think I've ever been
Speaker 1: bothered with Fat Joe saying nigga. You know. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: see that's the problem. You know, he's not one of us,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean one of us? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, where are you from? He's like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: gang banging on me. And I was like, no, where
Speaker 1: are you from? Like in the country, not not not
Speaker 1: like cripping where you're from, like not glasses low cripping
Speaker 1: where you're from, but like where are you from? But
Speaker 1: it hit me and that's what I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about. So these ideas, right come from the street.
Speaker 1: Like I was talking to my dad. My dad was
Speaker 1: born in forty seven this year, he'll be seventy five
Speaker 1: years old, and I was asking him, do he does
Speaker 1: he remember when the term nigga became like a term
Speaker 1: of endearment. He was like, did your generation started that? Said,
Speaker 1: before your generation? If somebody said nicked to you, if
Speaker 1: he was a white person, for sure, that was sucked up.
Speaker 1: If a black person called you and Nike, it was
Speaker 1: mad at you, like nigga where my money? And it
Speaker 1: was it was meant to be, you know, fucked up.
Speaker 1: He was like, he remember Richard Pryor using it, you
Speaker 1: know as a kind of a segue, right, But it
Speaker 1: wasn't a term of endearment until my generation, right, which
Speaker 1: is eight s and up. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like regular black people don't talk like that. That ship
Speaker 1: is the streets. And I'm like, I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, He's right, like the
Speaker 1: streets and that's where the cultural break happens, right, because
Speaker 1: the same thought about hip hop, right, hip hop isn't black,
Speaker 1: Well it is black, but hip hop before anything else
Speaker 1: is street. It's the street urban perspective, culturally, like us
Speaker 1: looking out of a window. And I did a pot
Speaker 1: on this about hip hop before, but it was important
Speaker 1: because it's getting to a place to wear. How do
Speaker 1: I say this where the everyday black person feels like
Speaker 1: they have entirely too much say about what's going on
Speaker 1: in the streets. And the Internet made that happen, you know,
Speaker 1: social media made that happened to where a lot of
Speaker 1: the lingo that we started, you know on the corner,
Speaker 1: you know, has been adopted by all of Black America.
Speaker 1: You gotta realize Slain come from the street. I mean
Speaker 1: he put sling in the records, right because hip hop
Speaker 1: come from the street, the street urban. Um we're talking
Speaker 1: about Hurt Kirk was a graffiti artist, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean he was tagging on walls. It's illegal. He's a criminal, right, Um.
Speaker 1: They were talking about somebody earlier than him, right, because
Speaker 1: it's multiple forefathers. When you start talking about hip hop.
Speaker 1: They were talking about uh disco King Mario, who was
Speaker 1: from a gang called the Black Space in New York
Speaker 1: and the Bronx, the gang members criminals. I mean, so
Speaker 1: all of this culture, you know, comes from the street.
Speaker 1: And I realized what was bothering me about him? What? What?
Speaker 1: What it was was he was telling me he was
Speaker 1: an accountant, and then you know, he didn't grow up
Speaker 1: in the hood, but he's a black man. And I'm
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, like, well, what the funk
Speaker 1: make you think you should have any right? And who
Speaker 1: uses the time niked as a term of endearment. That's
Speaker 1: something that people that grew up in my lifestyle came
Speaker 1: up with, actually me and my generation. And that's when
Speaker 1: I'm starting to have this disconnect, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: if if a movement can isolate itself from all of
Speaker 1: black people as a whole and like, Okay, I'll represent
Speaker 1: this niche of black people, then what would the funk
Speaker 1: would make him think that? I'm not gonna be like,
Speaker 1: well wait a minute, If that's it, then I've represent
Speaker 1: the streets. Nigger has become it's hip hop. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's become like a part of culture. Got white people,
Speaker 1: like the kids that are into hip hop or into
Speaker 1: that culture, they say nigga and it doesn't mean for
Speaker 1: them like oh you're a nigga. They're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is my boy, this is my nig Yeah you got
Speaker 1: the kids. Yeah, they they don't even care. They don't
Speaker 1: say it. Like I said, it's in the zone. So
Speaker 1: but then they say, okay, well it's not nigger, it's nigga. Right,
Speaker 1: So where did that become where it's like because I
Speaker 1: remember I too was like, okay, well it's not nigger.
Speaker 1: I don't you guys are calling each other niggas. So
Speaker 1: so so this and this is what I want to say.
Speaker 1: So first off, no ceilings, glasses low, I got my
Speaker 1: dog Asia, I got my people read right here, forel
Speaker 1: me doubling up. Y'all know are we doing this? We're
Speaker 1: about to really shift this ship in the overdrive. Right.
Speaker 1: So that's my issue, right because that's black people's question.
Speaker 1: The average black person is like, well, nobody that's not
Speaker 1: black should use the term nigga. And I'm thinking, like, no,
Speaker 1: nobody's not streaked. She used the term nigga, So then
Speaker 1: I can't say and I never said nigga until I
Speaker 1: started doing hip hop, start hanging with I didn't say nigga.
Speaker 1: I didn't say. I didn't say, you start hanging with
Speaker 1: the ni street I had, Like my lingo came from
Speaker 1: what I saw on TV or what was gonna be
Speaker 1: most people's experience as far as how they take in
Speaker 1: hip hop, and then you have the actual culture itself. Now,
Speaker 1: let me define hip hop right. Hip hop is urban
Speaker 1: street culture, right, densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. So it's
Speaker 1: a level of poverty to go with that oppression of
Speaker 1: being black. It's not just black, it's a level of
Speaker 1: poverty that's needed in the vicinity to create this culture.
Speaker 1: Because a black man in Beverly Hills can be oppressed.
Speaker 1: He can be poured over and sweated and be rich.
Speaker 1: It's wealthy athletes that are oppressed right now today by
Speaker 1: the NBA as far as when it comes to them
Speaker 1: raising levels of success. But the poverty part is what
Speaker 1: forces the culture out. I mean, it's the connection of both.
Speaker 1: And so when this attorney who grew up in his nice,
Speaker 1: middle class neighborhood. And he was like, yeah, well I'm black,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I don't think you really should
Speaker 1: have saying who uses the term nigga? You're not street
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you shouldn't be using the term
Speaker 1: using it. Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, so he
Speaker 1: is using it unless he listens to music, because his
Speaker 1: partner is walking outside the house, if he's in the
Speaker 1: middle class neighborhood, unless they listen to the rap songs
Speaker 1: white kids in middle class suburbian I mean, but I
Speaker 1: can't see him sitting like, you know, somewhere. What's up, nigga.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an attorney. He's an attorney. Why are
Speaker 1: you this is my life, like right, my dad, you know, nigga.
Speaker 1: When I was like, yeah, nigga, my older brothers, nigga.
Speaker 1: You feel so, but baby, baby, he did come from that.
Speaker 1: But he said he didn't come from He said he
Speaker 1: grew up in the middle class black experience and he's
Speaker 1: an attorney now. And I just thought to myself, like,
Speaker 1: why the funk would you think you would have say
Speaker 1: over who says the word nigger? And I thought about it, right,
Speaker 1: because maybe he feels like Okay, white people used it
Speaker 1: negatively about Black people that were slept, but all them
Speaker 1: black people was poor, no pressed black people, you feel
Speaker 1: me like, So again we go back to the same
Speaker 1: thing that's forcing culture. So urban street culture is what
Speaker 1: hip hop is. Densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. The culture
Speaker 1: that's developed there in those communities, Watts, Compton, those communities,
Speaker 1: the Bronx, you know, I mean the places in the
Speaker 1: Bronx where it's like that, the places in Brooklyn, Queens, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: all of these densely populated, crime written neighborhoods. The culture
Speaker 1: that that type of oppression and poverty forces is what
Speaker 1: we call hip hop. Right that that's that's the flavor
Speaker 1: of the month. Unless you're a young kid that's playing
Speaker 1: the fucking sacks and now you're making jazz because a
Speaker 1: terrorist terrorist it forced terrorists to he responded and made jazz,
Speaker 1: but he still produces hip hop. Right, street is crime. Mean,
Speaker 1: street is crime. But if you know somebody is a
Speaker 1: street nigga, you're criminal. So to be street is crime.
Speaker 1: To be in the streets as you're where the crime is.
Speaker 1: See like a lot of these terminologies, And I said
Speaker 1: this on another podcast as well. Like when people say
Speaker 1: I'm outside, that means you're where the action is, where
Speaker 1: shootouts are happening. It doesn't literally mean really, I never
Speaker 1: when I say I'm outside, I'm saying i'm outside. No,
Speaker 1: that's not Again, there's a real term. Again there's so
Speaker 1: who said that. That's what that means. I'm a street
Speaker 1: nigger and I created the term. This is culturally, it's
Speaker 1: so it's the new we active, like we active doesn't
Speaker 1: mean like I'm jogging. But I'm just laughing because we
Speaker 1: always say we are, like when you use a little
Speaker 1: kid like or go outside, and I'm not. We outside
Speaker 1: is the combination. That's what I'm saying. I'm outside. We outside?
Speaker 1: That means we're looking for the action? Does it literally
Speaker 1: mean domain? When I did post we outside, I was
Speaker 1: looking for the action because I'm outside and as heat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and was looking that's action, not the action. You're right,
Speaker 1: You're right. I wasn't active. He was looking for the
Speaker 1: turn up to me. Yeah, not like like yeah you
Speaker 1: were going to Yeah. It was in theory like what
Speaker 1: the function would be, but not really where you would be.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to function. The function is a
Speaker 1: neighborhood gathering where you guys go to in the middle
Speaker 1: class part as a party, a function. Right from the streets,
Speaker 1: we go to functions, right, I went to a couple
Speaker 1: of functions, of course you have and you see how
Speaker 1: functioning it functions. Yeah, it functions, it functions. It was
Speaker 1: function So that that was the thought I was having.
Speaker 1: So the term streaked is crime, right, crime written streaked
Speaker 1: don't mean like the pavement where the lines are marked outside.
Speaker 1: It means the crime written communities, right like crime crime
Speaker 1: where crime is happening that street. A street nigga is
Speaker 1: a criminal. The term, like I said, real nigga was
Speaker 1: created as a as an achievement for somebody who was
Speaker 1: a street nigga, because if you was a street nigga,
Speaker 1: you wasn't trying to be a doctor. You gotta remember
Speaker 1: like terms like doctors, lawyers, attorneys, those are great terms
Speaker 1: in America. And if you're like caught up in crime
Speaker 1: in these densely populated crime written neighborhoods, those things don't
Speaker 1: look obtainable, you know, doctor, lawyer. So do you create
Speaker 1: you know real nigga. That that's the elite term. But
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Why doesn't it look obtainable, Like, well,
Speaker 1: that's the point of oppression and poverty. It's a blinding thing.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a real limiting thing, you know, like
Speaker 1: you gotta think humanity, Like Russia is gonna always be
Speaker 1: for Ukraine, they're right next door to each other. Russia
Speaker 1: worst enemy can really never be America's too far. They
Speaker 1: can have a cold war that they never fought because
Speaker 1: it's too fucking folks. Wan't be doing all them fly
Speaker 1: bars all the time. You can't stick at war all
Speaker 1: the time, like you gotta put some troopers dead take
Speaker 1: It would take too much energy and work and it's
Speaker 1: too dangerous. China right now, the worse enemy is Taiwan.
Speaker 1: And I hold up y'all doing too much with America.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember they worse enemies for a while was Japan.
Speaker 1: It was close. People beef with what's in the vicinity.
Speaker 1: Real beasts are within the vicinity. You know, if you
Speaker 1: if you look at most El Salvadorians, they don't they
Speaker 1: beef with Mexicans. Yeah, I mean again, it's kind of common, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's like, um, you you fight who you're close to,
Speaker 1: especially poor people, because it's limited resources. But the point
Speaker 1: I was making will us. He kept asking me, why
Speaker 1: was I so comfortable with Fat Joe using the N word?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've been to where fat Joe is from.
Speaker 1: Fat Joe is from the streets where that's how people talk.
Speaker 1: My question to him, even as a black man, why
Speaker 1: the funk are you asking me? Who should use them?
Speaker 1: Where you should be asking me? But somehow these middle class,
Speaker 1: wealthy black people feel entitled to have us say in
Speaker 1: this street culture, you're not a criminal. You shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be talking like this. You should be an outstanding citizen
Speaker 1: for our kids to look and say, I don't have
Speaker 1: to be glasses or you know this guy, I can
Speaker 1: be doctor Dick fore me like that's the option. But somehow,
Speaker 1: at the at the elite level of middle class, because
Speaker 1: of hip hop the music, people have lowered their standards.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you could have a dude.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I got a good job, as you know,
Speaker 1: the FedEx manager you know what I mean. He's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at work eight hours. They real nigga ship.
Speaker 1: No it's not bro, it's actually real manager ship's real manship,
Speaker 1: real fathership. Like you don't why are you allowing the
Speaker 1: concentrate right of of urban struggle to be your pinnacle
Speaker 1: like you have it. It's weird to me because even
Speaker 1: the whole complete movement has adopted America as part of
Speaker 1: their slogan, like like people wanted from None of us
Speaker 1: is proud Americans. We fucking hate America like you enslaved
Speaker 1: us and it's fucked up. I have figured out a
Speaker 1: way to be like, yeah, we built this country, which
Speaker 1: I think is dope to have claim is something you built.
Speaker 1: I can never be That's why I'm saying, but I
Speaker 1: could never be American because you know, it's like my dad.
Speaker 1: My dad could never be like like, uh, you could
Speaker 1: have all the conservative views, but because racist white people
Speaker 1: as conservatives in his mind is like, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about America, like I can never
Speaker 1: claim somebody that don't claim me. So wait, so you're
Speaker 1: saying that since he doesn't understand it, he shouldn't say
Speaker 1: it or have a say, so who says it? That's
Speaker 1: my issue? My issue is what would make him think
Speaker 1: it's okay to ask me? First off, why do you think? Honestly?
Speaker 1: It's more cringe e to me when African people say nigga.
Speaker 1: Then when says like when I hear like, let's say
Speaker 1: like like the comedian, like the comedian uh black Michael
Speaker 1: Blacks would sounds Yeah, it's like that should be cringe e. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't really um talked too many Africans that say
Speaker 1: that because you know why, that's not where they're from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they say that it's sad because they've been around us.
Speaker 1: Middle class black people said, because they've been around us,
Speaker 1: because they heard it. It's not something that was like
Speaker 1: shared amongst the black community. We're not going to the
Speaker 1: black elite opportunities and they walk around like, what's up, nigga,
Speaker 1: that's not a commune black thing. Yeah, I'm not from
Speaker 1: a middle class from middle class, but I just didn't
Speaker 1: grow up in important poor community. I just didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: best of both worlds. I mean yeah, because I went
Speaker 1: through you know, where did you grow up at? Um? Everywhere?
Speaker 1: Where's your main place of growing up? You were starting
Speaker 1: to become impressionable Asia impressionable in the valley Um, Yes,
Speaker 1: but no, I mean I lived awhere, I lived off
Speaker 1: I lived off figure on a hundred and ninth. I've
Speaker 1: lived Gardina, So what junior high elementary, junior high high school,
Speaker 1: junior high high school. Where'd you go? Where you go
Speaker 1: to high school? At Palm Dell Palm? Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is we I lived in the valley.
Speaker 1: We're from Guardina, and my mom she I wanted me
Speaker 1: to go to school in the valley because she went.
Speaker 1: She got busted out there when she was in school,
Speaker 1: bust the taft to Yeah, you know, she went to Grant,
Speaker 1: went to Grant and I kicked out and then I
Speaker 1: got sent to Granada Hills and I finished Granada Hills.
Speaker 1: Granada Hills considered like a worse school than Grant. Granada
Speaker 1: Hills was like Granada Hills was actually a mixture of
Speaker 1: people because they got bust a lot of I had
Speaker 1: a lot of friends from Watts, from the West Side,
Speaker 1: like over there by Hamilton's. They were getting bused to
Speaker 1: my school, a lot of them. Like you know, the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a mixture. We had Indians, whites, everybody had
Speaker 1: their own little clicks. But it was weird to me.
Speaker 1: And like he asked me, why was I comfortable with
Speaker 1: Fat Joe saying nigga? And I'm like, because Fat Joe
Speaker 1: grew up in the streets that we grew up in. Like,
Speaker 1: that's the point. Like my homeboy Mando from my gang, right,
Speaker 1: My homeboy Mando from seven Street, right, Mando grew up
Speaker 1: with us his whole life. He was adopted by you know,
Speaker 1: forgive me for telling his private business, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he you've seen him, you would know it's different.
Speaker 1: But he was adopted by the matriarch family of my
Speaker 1: neighborhood since you know, months old. So he's a nigga
Speaker 1: the whole time. He's everybody nigga. That's how everybody around
Speaker 1: him talk. Yeah, nigga. This then the third nigg feel me.
Speaker 1: This is how it works. So when you grow up
Speaker 1: with us, that's why you become whatever we are because
Speaker 1: culturally we become the same thing. That's how we talk.
Speaker 1: That's how my mother talked, That's how my daddy talked.
Speaker 1: This is how my people talk. This is how the
Speaker 1: neighbors talk. There's some neighbors who didn't, but most people
Speaker 1: talk just like this. I mean, hill coaches at school
Speaker 1: talk like this. Said that nigga, get the hell up
Speaker 1: out of here, and nobody told the principle because that's
Speaker 1: how the Nigga's talk. So I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: your opinion if y'all can even understand what I'm saying, Like, like,
Speaker 1: the ownership of the term, the ownership of that culture
Speaker 1: is the streets more than it's just black. You know,
Speaker 1: there's poor people that grow up with us and and
Speaker 1: pick up right with us. Feel me that are you
Speaker 1: know this this is might be the I hate to
Speaker 1: say this, I literally hate I severely dislike it. But
Speaker 1: I may relate to a person that grew up next
Speaker 1: door to me. That's a that's ah. Let's say if
Speaker 1: he was Cuban, right, he grew up next door to me,
Speaker 1: I may relate to him more than a black person
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. Like my relation of that person to
Speaker 1: be a police oppressing us somewhere. You and Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: going to this nice house and me going to you know,
Speaker 1: Watson and my dad are Compton. So yes, we can
Speaker 1: relate there, But every other struggle, feel me, outside of
Speaker 1: those oppressions, it's going to be a disconnect because poverty
Speaker 1: is not there. Meanwhile, the same Cuban person next door
Speaker 1: to me is gonna get oppressed with me. He's going
Speaker 1: to be as poor as I am because we live
Speaker 1: next to each other, so culturally we create the culture together.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Like, like we create the culture in these places,
Speaker 1: you know, the bad English. The slang is created by
Speaker 1: us because of the lack of educational opportunities and how
Speaker 1: we want to speak. I mean, if we had fantastic schools,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as much slang. Or if the slang
Speaker 1: has become trendy, it's become aware of even you know,
Speaker 1: talking caption, you know, just texting like it's it's the
Speaker 1: thing to do, you know, as far as like the slang,
Speaker 1: but um, it makes a lot of sense. Like I know,
Speaker 1: for me, Um, I didn't necessarily grow up in the hood,
Speaker 1: but of course I have family that grew up in
Speaker 1: the hood. But me just moving from l A coming
Speaker 1: up to Um the valley area, there are certain parents
Speaker 1: that I would just fall naturally be more drawn to
Speaker 1: Um versus say another parent you know that's been from
Speaker 1: that area for forever, Like we just wouldn't connect. Like
Speaker 1: my you know daughter's friends her parents are white, Like
Speaker 1: I just didn't connect with them. Like it just was
Speaker 1: like okay, well I always end up finding a black berry,
Speaker 1: Like you know, we just have more in common. So
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was just it makes sense. That's how
Speaker 1: I how I grew up. Some I'm more comfortable being
Speaker 1: around what I'm used to being around as far as
Speaker 1: like I remember, um, saying bitch was like a no
Speaker 1: no for me, like I was not my friends like
Speaker 1: what bitch And we used to look at people wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, like why they calling each other bitches and
Speaker 1: ship and then was the girls that was they was
Speaker 1: from the hood, like you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: it was calling each other bitches, and me growing up
Speaker 1: it was like like me and my friends, we didn't
Speaker 1: do that, you know. So now I say bitch like
Speaker 1: it's just water. It's like you seasoned right by that poverty.
Speaker 1: But it's mainstream though it's so popular. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you it is right, But that doesn't mean culturally
Speaker 1: it didn't belong to somebody, right, And then so imagine
Speaker 1: if so let's say right, because that is very much
Speaker 1: something that that poor black extreme women, you know, poor
Speaker 1: street women came because pretty much if you in the streets,
Speaker 1: you grew up wherever whoever in your community, you can't
Speaker 1: control it. But you know, bitch, right, bitch, bitch, bitch,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, now you got it right, you
Speaker 1: got the flame. Imagine somebody not culturally tied to it
Speaker 1: telling you how to talk. That's oh, I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: It's a white woman saying I don't like you saying
Speaker 1: the word bitch around me, or I don't like you
Speaker 1: saying the word bitches, like bitches not for this ain't
Speaker 1: for you. And that's my point. It's a tough it's
Speaker 1: a tough debate, right, and but that's how I feel altogether.
Speaker 1: But it's like for you to be asking like are
Speaker 1: you street? What are your qualifications in the street? But
Speaker 1: where do we but where is it to where? Okay,
Speaker 1: this man that came from a middle class he's an
Speaker 1: attorney and he can have you know, some type of influence.
Speaker 1: Where do we take accountability? And say, okay, maybe you
Speaker 1: know we can help the street, Like why is it
Speaker 1: okay to just be ignorant? Like the term isn't ignorant.
Speaker 1: It was, it's not it's not a lack of knowledge
Speaker 1: of what the word stand for. It's of a willingness
Speaker 1: to control. But that's how he's looking at it. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the point he's ignorant, right, and and it sounds
Speaker 1: crazy because lord knows an attorney or middle class person
Speaker 1: can't be ignorant. I don't know, man, But again, you
Speaker 1: just don't know. So you could think we don't know
Speaker 1: that that we used to call black people as slaves
Speaker 1: or as a we don't give a fuck. Took ownership,
Speaker 1: like we decided that, you know what if these things
Speaker 1: are not possible to obtain right rooted in this oppression
Speaker 1: and poverty because it is severe and it and it
Speaker 1: goes back to that Samet mar Luther King quote, Uh,
Speaker 1: you can tell a man to pick himself up by
Speaker 1: his bootstraps, but it's a cruel jest to tell a
Speaker 1: bootless man to pick himself up but bootstraps. Right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we could look at everybody that come from those environments
Speaker 1: where I come from and say, well, you could make
Speaker 1: it if I made it. It's some people don't have boots,
Speaker 1: just not there. That's why we're supposed to take care
Speaker 1: of each other. Remember, the ghetto wasn't created for us.
Speaker 1: It was created for Jewish people. We just took over.
Speaker 1: It was created for Jewish that's what it was made for. Well,
Speaker 1: actually a Jewish it's actually considered part of that ship.
Speaker 1: There was the first people in the game. Remember we
Speaker 1: didn't have a place in America. The first projects probably
Speaker 1: wasn't for black people. Most likely, if you're looking up,
Speaker 1: it won't be probably be for like somebody that's not
Speaker 1: an English white person because they you know, the English
Speaker 1: white person is super oppressive to Italian Irish, I mean, um, Spanish, Spaniards,
Speaker 1: you know, darker you get, it's gonna get tougher to
Speaker 1: be that type of pressure. So it was just a
Speaker 1: weird conversation and he felt like he had said, I'm
Speaker 1: fat jealous from the streets. You know, this man from
Speaker 1: the fours Projects, like, you know, he grew up with
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that's how they talk. Now, I'm not saying everybody
Speaker 1: from other communities shouldn't accept it. I'm saying if Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: if the people of Forest Heelers that grew up in
Speaker 1: his community was saying you shouldn't say it, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: be saying it. He would have respected they mind because
Speaker 1: them is his loved ones and cultural you know, confidant
Speaker 1: and people. He would have been like that. But they
Speaker 1: accepted it. Now the world don't need to accept it,
Speaker 1: but don't ask another street person accepted. Because I got
Speaker 1: a homeboy name Mandough, that's my nigga. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you gotta expect Mando to same nigga. You just
Speaker 1: don't gotta talk to Mando. But if you call yourself,
Speaker 1: thank you for the triple my homeboy that grew up
Speaker 1: with me. Just because your skin looked like my skin,
Speaker 1: that don't mean enough. Just because our grandmother was oppressed
Speaker 1: the same way, you know, great great great grandmother was
Speaker 1: oppressed the same way, That don't mean enough. This nigga
Speaker 1: right here starving with me. Every day we ate together.
Speaker 1: The same sound was broken in half shared it. Mando
Speaker 1: gave me my first auncer Sean when I couldn't get
Speaker 1: my own. Hey man, get you some money. You thank
Speaker 1: you for the talk to him crazy and tell me
Speaker 1: about Oh you know what are our great great great
Speaker 1: grandfathers went through nigga. Your great great grandfather could have
Speaker 1: been a house nigga. Nigga could have been on the
Speaker 1: porch nigga screaming at my grandfather. This nigga right here,
Speaker 1: we starved together. This my nigga. Let's see, that's where
Speaker 1: I mean you can have you know, somebody out you know,
Speaker 1: a young you know some people and you don't know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: this person is grew up with me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's from the streets. So yeah, he running
Speaker 1: around here saying, nigga, can you have another group or
Speaker 1: some niggas? That's like, why this nigga running around here
Speaker 1: saying nigga? Now they start tripping on them on him
Speaker 1: because oh, he ain't supposed to be saying that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think about it because of the one of our friends.
Speaker 1: They don't say it with us, but they know for
Speaker 1: some reason, or they won't say it in front of
Speaker 1: because because it's not because maybe that person ship is
Speaker 1: not legit. Like I'm not saying that they're not legit
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe they was always choosing to say it
Speaker 1: as a way to refer, you know, to to y'all
Speaker 1: bond or you know whatever. He whatever she thought was
Speaker 1: going on. But Momie, ain't gonna he gonna say it
Speaker 1: in front of anybody, and you're gonna have to say
Speaker 1: something to him because this is how he talked. Got it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You could be somewhere and they
Speaker 1: don't know this, and now they're gonna flash on you
Speaker 1: on y'all because you're They're like, you're taking up for
Speaker 1: him and he don't look like us. Most likely that's
Speaker 1: not what's happening in the street. And if you go
Speaker 1: to the street. I can go to a street in Houston,
Speaker 1: if it's the street, they're gonna see him and talk
Speaker 1: to him and they can be like, Okay, it won't
Speaker 1: even be a question. It only starts being a question
Speaker 1: when you don't understand how it could happen because you're
Speaker 1: not from the street, or you from somewhere where there
Speaker 1: are no poor other people besides black poor people. And
Speaker 1: that probably is just very rare. Maybe in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: There's some places in the Midwest where you know, it'll
Speaker 1: just be poor black people. They got poor white people.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like it's always a different
Speaker 1: culture or race that grow up in poor places. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, even if it's a few so you don't
Speaker 1: hear other street rappers or hip hop artists like Fat
Speaker 1: Joe says this, Nobody is scared of fat Who the
Speaker 1: fuck is Fat Joe? Fat Joe can run the fat
Speaker 1: like anybody else. I don't gonna fuck what they say.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not about that. I understand because he's
Speaker 1: street and on street, and I understand where you're from.
Speaker 1: I've been to where his projects or I see the
Speaker 1: dynamic of who lives there, so I understand how that
Speaker 1: can happen in and that's important within context. Street people
Speaker 1: created that term of endearment the way we use it. Yes,
Speaker 1: those street people were black, but they were not just black.
Speaker 1: They were streaked black people. My dad hates that I
Speaker 1: use it, that nigga use it. He black. He hate
Speaker 1: I use it. I wish y'all just throw the way
Speaker 1: a word not that is ours. Y'all just keep saying
Speaker 1: brother or whatever y'all say, and he look nigga or
Speaker 1: now you want to and that's how they use niggah.
Speaker 1: So that's my point I'm saying. It's like if we
Speaker 1: nish culture, it's going to keep missing what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm at what I'm like, Well, I
Speaker 1: think we just started really determined who could say what.
Speaker 1: Like I've been this way about hip hop. I've been
Speaker 1: super protective over the last five six years of hip hop, Like, no,
Speaker 1: that person is not hip hop. That person is not
Speaker 1: hip hop. That person is not hip hop because we
Speaker 1: gotta leave something for the streets. Like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you can't listen to the music and enjoy it and
Speaker 1: it influence you to make the music. But that don't
Speaker 1: mean you're making hip hop. You could just be a rapper.
Speaker 1: M hip Hop is a very specific culture. Rap is
Speaker 1: just the language what I'm saying, the way we talk,
Speaker 1: the way we deliver the culture. But rap can be
Speaker 1: employed and used to deliver any message. Fucking Joe Biden
Speaker 1: could write a rap about being the president and it
Speaker 1: could be a dope rap. I don't mean just because
Speaker 1: he's wrapping it hip hop. And that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: just because you're black, you know, it doesn't make you
Speaker 1: entitled to slang. It doesn't. But when you're black, in say,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why America's corporate America, and you
Speaker 1: have you know, you're representing for all the black people.
Speaker 1: So if someone comes in there there saying nigga, everybody's
Speaker 1: looking at you like, oh my god. They they're not
Speaker 1: gonna say if they said, if they said that, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to find them not nigga. To me, but you
Speaker 1: could be, you know, in a work environment or something,
Speaker 1: and you just hear this person, a person cubicle, he's
Speaker 1: wrapping a song, like yeah, get my nigga singing that,
Speaker 1: my nigga, my niggas. But then you supposed to tell him, hey,
Speaker 1: don't do that. But when you start talking to the streets,
Speaker 1: no way, Why are you supposed to tell him don't
Speaker 1: do that when he's he's in his cubicle and he's
Speaker 1: wrapping the song. It don't matter, Like that's the point,
Speaker 1: that's that's so? Is that okay? So would that be
Speaker 1: okay for the attorney of the middle class to be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have a right to say that, because now
Speaker 1: now you have more of a claim to it than
Speaker 1: he does. Got it. But you're saying when you're trying
Speaker 1: to tell another person from the streets, right said like
Speaker 1: what if you can, you shouldn't be read, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you know he's upset. And I
Speaker 1: could tell he's an attorney. I could tell you grew
Speaker 1: up in the middle class neighborhood. I could tell everything
Speaker 1: about him, how he's talking to me. I can see it.
Speaker 1: He told me he was and I'm like, well, why
Speaker 1: are you trying to tell somebody from where we from
Speaker 1: to say, nigger, who do you think you? We cut
Speaker 1: your ass up? Fuck you up? And then they'll think
Speaker 1: it's like when you're taking another person's side. No, this
Speaker 1: is somebody coaturally who say he just because because hip
Speaker 1: hop and hip hop is not a black things. It
Speaker 1: has it has black roots from the street. It is
Speaker 1: not created by the fucking doctors or no fucking attorneys
Speaker 1: or no motherfucking nothing. Them people is listening to jazz
Speaker 1: and top level great R and B. Then't the same
Speaker 1: people that had sucked up ship to say about hip hop.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just white people who as ships sucked up
Speaker 1: said about hip hop. It was elite black people that
Speaker 1: protested in w as existence who called it it wasn't music.
Speaker 1: It was upper level black preachers. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of people that wasn't from the environment to understand how
Speaker 1: poverty helped us form this music. Right, And that's just
Speaker 1: really important when you think about it. The difference between
Speaker 1: something just being black culture and something being street culture.
Speaker 1: This true makes sense really is because street culture, I
Speaker 1: don't know street culture. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I don't even try. You know what I like, but
Speaker 1: you do know it, and you know some stuff you
Speaker 1: pick it up. I picked it up and being a
Speaker 1: product of two crypts and and they just was. And
Speaker 1: then my grandma was just really from the streets like
Speaker 1: they were really, so I had to, you know, you
Speaker 1: had no choice but to be like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: what it is. Active and yeah, they activated, they activated,
Speaker 1: So I had no choice that batter. That's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my parents said in Game Bang. Nobody directly in my family,
Speaker 1: but the game bang gang banging. It's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a gang. Banging is just banging. But gang members just
Speaker 1: l a street culture. It's not anything different. Every street
Speaker 1: nigg in l A is the same. If you're a
Speaker 1: criminal in l A, you do the same ship. For
Speaker 1: the most part, my homie always be joking my boy
Speaker 1: ja you all glasses? No man, you know you'd be
Speaker 1: pushing gangs and ship. I'm from seven Street. I'm not
Speaker 1: an advocate for all gang members. But what I'm telling
Speaker 1: you is he's like, oh, that's not right. I said,
Speaker 1: j you you a street nigger. He's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's different. What's different if somebody was about to shoot
Speaker 1: me somewhere and you got a gun. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be like you know what glass is, dunk and let
Speaker 1: me call the police and reported to the proper authority.
Speaker 1: You don't call the police. Neither you would do a
Speaker 1: crime to advance your agenda either. The only difference is
Speaker 1: you not aligned with a bunch of men that are
Speaker 1: do the same and you are technically because you align
Speaker 1: with me. If you would do crimes with me, if
Speaker 1: we was going somewhere, nikka did something you felt we
Speaker 1: need to get off, and we get off together. Nigga,
Speaker 1: We are a game, So a game member is directly
Speaker 1: related to doing crime. Like if you're a member a
Speaker 1: group of a group of people that commit crimes to
Speaker 1: advance their agenda, that's all it is. By definition, a
Speaker 1: group of criminals are together. Mm hmm. So every individual
Speaker 1: member a gangster is just a street nigga. I have
Speaker 1: some I have so many crip questions. Just tell me,
Speaker 1: let me so, okay, this whole you know, crips, bloods, right,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is this? Why is there so many
Speaker 1: crips or hoods within a crip? Like why isn't it
Speaker 1: that or when did that start? Because when I was
Speaker 1: looking at the video, it was like, Okay, we had
Speaker 1: crips and we have bloods. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we had these different hoods. Are these different neighborhoods? Why
Speaker 1: why couldn't it just be crips and bloods? Because poverty
Speaker 1: does the same exact thing. It's like when you go
Speaker 1: to Nigeria and you say, why are you know how
Speaker 1: many ethnicities there is in Nigeria, how many different languages
Speaker 1: there is in Nigeria and they all Nigerians. If you
Speaker 1: go over there and be like, oh, y'all just Nigerians.
Speaker 1: They from different tribes, they talk different, they eat different.
Speaker 1: It is culturally different because poverty creates invisible barriers, and
Speaker 1: then you think culturally it's unique here, Like I'm from
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventeen street. We think it's culturally different
Speaker 1: when you cross Imperial and get to a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen street, And that's crazy because that's that's right there.
Speaker 1: Like that's how poverty works. Poverty and oppression forces you
Speaker 1: into small boxes. Most people from where were from never
Speaker 1: been to the beach. You're right, you are absolutely right,
Speaker 1: Like they have never went to the beach, They have
Speaker 1: never crossed because you don't want to run into white people.
Speaker 1: You kind of know how people be, and you'd be
Speaker 1: worried about it. And the world is a scary place.
Speaker 1: When you pour you you you bounded to where you're
Speaker 1: from because it's the safest thing that you know. That's
Speaker 1: how the mental fortress that poverty and oppression is. It's
Speaker 1: way more elite than you could ever imagine, way more
Speaker 1: tricky and crafty and and real. What I'm saying when
Speaker 1: I talk to certain homies, they don't even see nothing
Speaker 1: else for their life. I mean, it's like a computer,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's in a safe moment.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it's like I don't I can't
Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, And that's the point, Like if you're
Speaker 1: not there every day to kind of understand it, it
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem realistic. You ever watch Stranger Things, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: the ghetto is the upside down, mm hmm, it's right there,
Speaker 1: but it seems like it's not real. It don't even
Speaker 1: seem real, like you like think about the world, like
Speaker 1: hip hop is not about being relatable, it's about being
Speaker 1: a journey into another life, another world, like the Upside
Speaker 1: Down the upside down just looks like, you know, Hawkins,
Speaker 1: the middle school, but I mean that the community and
Speaker 1: all of that. But when you go to the upside there,
Speaker 1: you realize this is different. Mhm. It's darker. It seems
Speaker 1: like there's monsters, but the monsters got the same purpose.
Speaker 1: Like there's a belief that the monsters want something worse.
Speaker 1: Y'all in the town, y'all working with them. Y'all opened up,
Speaker 1: y'all opened uhuh, they opened the ghetto right there when
Speaker 1: when she sent uh because uh one and he went
Speaker 1: through the wall and all that, and they opened up.
Speaker 1: Y'all opened the motherfucking door to the ghetto. Their monster's
Speaker 1: mother fucking with nobody at first. Their monsters was over there,
Speaker 1: and they minded their motherfucking business that you opened up
Speaker 1: the door and they came out. They came like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Who are y'all? You gotta watch it? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Age, I don't know if you really
Speaker 1: did you watch it at all? None of them. That's
Speaker 1: how the the monster popped up, Like who the fund is? Y'all?
Speaker 1: The monsters wasn't trying to get through We was trying
Speaker 1: to get to them. Hawkins was trying to get to them,
Speaker 1: and they was like over there. But now they're like, okay, y'all,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's tripping y'all sending motherfucker's up in here. Motherfucker's tripping
Speaker 1: this nigga one party telling us how fucked up y'all?
Speaker 1: This many motherfucker's fake. They think about it. That's cube.
Speaker 1: If you grew up listening to the ice Cube your
Speaker 1: whole life, what would you think of white people? They
Speaker 1: are not to be trusted? And so what if one
Speaker 1: what if one is the ice CUBEO the upside down?
Speaker 1: He telling all the monsters the uh what's the big one?
Speaker 1: What they call him the mind Flair? What if? What if?
Speaker 1: What if? What if one is telling the mind flair
Speaker 1: right the big Spider who's supposed to be the main person.
Speaker 1: What if one is telling the mind flat man and
Speaker 1: motherfucker's is fucked up over there and Hawkins over there
Speaker 1: up up they call this to ups like that? What
Speaker 1: if they call him that man that ship? People fuck up?
Speaker 1: Look at their motherfucker you see what they look how
Speaker 1: they see me over here? The mind flare like all
Speaker 1: the bitch ass niggas it's own perspective is important with
Speaker 1: all of these conversations. Perspective is everything, and and it's
Speaker 1: weird that, you know, we don't accept that. It's just weird,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we don't want to give everybody
Speaker 1: their own perspective. We feel like everybody should have the
Speaker 1: same perspective, no matter how ridiculous that is. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What other the cript questions did you ask? All right,
Speaker 1: so I got one. Mind might be a little silly,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so it broke up into mid seventies. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the flag, I mean the the flag red rag,
Speaker 1: the rag right, so that represents crip, cripping or bledding. Right.
Speaker 1: So now like I have some pants that is cripping,
Speaker 1: I have a shirt that's like black, Like, how is that?
Speaker 1: Or how do you feel or how do gang bangers
Speaker 1: feel seeing people that aren't banging wearing the colors like
Speaker 1: your fan Oh it's a fanatic. Well, I just want
Speaker 1: to know why the flag on the left side laid
Speaker 1: that up. I don't know. The nigs came up with
Speaker 1: that ship just one day, just one day, and it
Speaker 1: just happened. It wasn't a lot of intellect about gang banging,
Speaker 1: so that was something that had to happen, you needed
Speaker 1: to wear it on the left side. Well, remember pre
Speaker 1: seventy five, that just didn't exist. Colors didn't exist. That's
Speaker 1: what wouldn't exist, none of that. It was just these
Speaker 1: were the crips and these were the Bloods. They weren't
Speaker 1: even the Bloods. It was just the crips. Bloods became
Speaker 1: a union of everybody who didn't want to be a crypt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's guys who was like, yeah, I'm not fucking with
Speaker 1: what they got going on. We're gonna do our own things.
Speaker 1: And those guys united and became the same type of
Speaker 1: ship anyway, Oh no, we're Bloods ship. You're all the
Speaker 1: same now united and became this. So it was people
Speaker 1: who the Bloods came about because they wasn't down with
Speaker 1: that chip that that that Raymond and and took he
Speaker 1: was trying to push there was like, now we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep doing our own thing. And at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: if you reject the advancement of you know, a movement
Speaker 1: what I'm saying it's gonna be, you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have trouble. When they dealt with to trouble how they
Speaker 1: wanted to, they stood up for their self, and they
Speaker 1: found other communities that wasn't with the program and they
Speaker 1: united and kind of became what we know as bloods
Speaker 1: or pie rules. Okay, what what else? What's the other
Speaker 1: gript question? Well, okay, so this whole initiation thing. Um,
Speaker 1: you know how they say like, um, you have to
Speaker 1: shoot somebody's they'll do yeah with the whole um having
Speaker 1: the car off, I mean the lights off, and that's
Speaker 1: not true. Okay. Now the fighting, So is it do
Speaker 1: you have to fight to get into the gang or
Speaker 1: is it just something where it's like I grew up
Speaker 1: in this hood and I'm a part of this. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are born on the set. That's normal.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that standard. Some people fight. If you was
Speaker 1: really born over there and you get put on any way,
Speaker 1: they will never do you like a stranger. They really
Speaker 1: just so they really be fighting, Like, oh, ranger in
Speaker 1: today's Tom, he don't get beat up bad to be
Speaker 1: put on the hood. Yeah, they're going to beat him
Speaker 1: up because he's a stranger. So they're gonna really see
Speaker 1: what he's about. And they just want to use their
Speaker 1: power incorrectly because they're not used to using it anyway,
Speaker 1: So they're gonna apply a real type of physical force
Speaker 1: to that person because he's a stranger. There's no love.
Speaker 1: They don't know his mama, they don't know his daddy.
Speaker 1: They're just fuck him up. So because they sucked him up, Okay,
Speaker 1: so there's no there's okay. Now you're a part of
Speaker 1: the game because we sucked you up. Like that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're willing to get beat up to be one
Speaker 1: of us, that's a early initial sign that you want
Speaker 1: to be one of us. You're willing to get beat up.
Speaker 1: Is there ever like anyone where it's like, nah, you
Speaker 1: we don't. You can't be a part of his life
Speaker 1: for it, you know, a crip or just you know,
Speaker 1: like the thirties aren't. Notoriously, a lot of their g
Speaker 1: homies are trying to cut off. But then they got
Speaker 1: young homies that are um. Most gangs are trying to
Speaker 1: expand they know I'm saying, is there ever somebody that
Speaker 1: wants to be a part of Yeah, where they're like
Speaker 1: there's people have been denied. It's not often, but people
Speaker 1: have been denied. Why is it not often? Though? Like
Speaker 1: I think that that would be my only problem with
Speaker 1: the culture. It's it's way too assessible for anybody, right
Speaker 1: And then I mean because sure you would think something
Speaker 1: that represents everybody with you would be really more selective
Speaker 1: about who that person is. So does your gag the
Speaker 1: game comes over your family? Where's the line drawing here?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Game come over your family? So
Speaker 1: there may be decisions or things that you have to
Speaker 1: make where you have to um choose your family or
Speaker 1: the gang, Like what kind of decisions that? Like? What? What? Like?
Speaker 1: For example, Okay, I was just watching something I can't
Speaker 1: remember when I was watching, but the guy basically, um, oh,
Speaker 1: good for us. I was watching the movie Good Fellas,
Speaker 1: so you know how he had to basically um go
Speaker 1: into the witness protection or whatever because he was gonna
Speaker 1: tell because they were going to come to kill his
Speaker 1: family and everything. What does that? Is there a limit there? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it like, well, I joined this gang so I
Speaker 1: know that my family can get killed or I don't
Speaker 1: quite know what you mean? And black gangs most of
Speaker 1: the times, nobody's gonna kill your family. They're gonna kill
Speaker 1: your mom. They know your mom or your dad. They
Speaker 1: just don't like you. But um, there's really a moment
Speaker 1: you have to choose your gang over your family. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna beat up your dad and like, stand by, watch
Speaker 1: us beat up your dad. What I'm saying, it's not
Speaker 1: like that everybody in gangbanging mothers and fathers are really
Speaker 1: respected in l A street culture. Like it's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's like a huge that's not cool, like
Speaker 1: your mom has to be on drugs or some crazy
Speaker 1: eazy But for the most part, if your homies really
Speaker 1: know your parents, they respect your parents. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of respecting gangs. It's not simple, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that it has to be some kind
Speaker 1: of fraction and how they see other people. Like maybe
Speaker 1: if your mom is on drugs, then disrespect could happen.
Speaker 1: Your father is on drugs, you know, they don't respect themselves,
Speaker 1: then things could go back in the streets. So I
Speaker 1: get like the whole fighting thing. You know, it's sure
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in fights, so they're gonna start you
Speaker 1: right up. I'm just saying I get it, Like it's
Speaker 1: about respect fighting like I mean, but the gun violence,
Speaker 1: the shooting, the killing, Like where is it to where
Speaker 1: just as a human you're like, okay, we gotta stop killing,
Speaker 1: Like why is it where it's like, okay, there's drive
Speaker 1: bys or there's all of these things where it's like
Speaker 1: why do y'all have to kill or why does it
Speaker 1: have to be so drastic, Like, I mean, well, that's
Speaker 1: a humanity problem. Biden and and the government literally just
Speaker 1: did a press conference where they killed the leader. Right.
Speaker 1: They made sure to let you know he was Ben
Speaker 1: Ladden's boss. They just like yeah, And he thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna get away from it, but we showed him
Speaker 1: and we gunned him down, We dropped, we did a
Speaker 1: fly by on him and his people, and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and we got at him. And now he knows he
Speaker 1: can't mess with America or what's going on with Russia
Speaker 1: and Ukraine, or or China doing the military exercises on Taiwan.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not a problem just in our community.
Speaker 1: This is a humanity problem. So wait, why do you
Speaker 1: feel that it's so hard for like, if you are
Speaker 1: a part of the gang whatever, like it's so hard
Speaker 1: for you to walk away. You can't walk away, right,
Speaker 1: Sure you can, you can do whatever you want. You're
Speaker 1: grown as man, But why would you that's like your
Speaker 1: cousin is read and he was like, okay, we're not cousin. No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away. Or like somebody grew up with
Speaker 1: and being friends with your whole life, what are you
Speaker 1: walking away from? Like you don't have to be a criminal,
Speaker 1: you can. Nobody's going to talk about Like most people
Speaker 1: don't move leave. People get good jobs, Like nobody, you
Speaker 1: got that good job, throw away your job and come
Speaker 1: funk up with us. Oh you got a good job,
Speaker 1: you mean, and you can help somebody else get a
Speaker 1: good job. But that might be for the older but
Speaker 1: the young the younger generation of kids, Yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: telling them, oh yeah, you don't need to go to work.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need to come kick it at
Speaker 1: the in the hood. They're saying, oh, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to link because we, you know, want to do some
Speaker 1: drugs and some some pills or get high or something
Speaker 1: like that. I don't think, really don't. I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, if you really grew up with somebody
Speaker 1: and you got a good job, nobody like, man, you
Speaker 1: need to funk that. Go don't go to work today,
Speaker 1: come throw your life away with me. That's just not
Speaker 1: really how it works. If you're a stranger, they want
Speaker 1: to test out how real you are. And that's why
Speaker 1: strangers from different communities have no business going to stranger
Speaker 1: communities to get put on. That's just ridiculous what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you don't know people here, what do you think
Speaker 1: you're doing? What I'm saying, That's why that's how they
Speaker 1: do strangers. They like, you ain't from overious or we
Speaker 1: don't care what you've got going on. You need to
Speaker 1: pull up and put in your hours because you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna you ain't a day one. But if you really
Speaker 1: from that community for real, I mean, nobody's going to
Speaker 1: give you a hard time because you got a great job.
Speaker 1: Or he got a good job, you're gonna punch on him. No,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh been and they got that job. He'll
Speaker 1: be feeling most of the time, he'll feel more pressure
Speaker 1: to be a part of whatever is going on than
Speaker 1: they will be putting pressure on him. Nobody. But you
Speaker 1: gotta call off work and come to the meeting. So
Speaker 1: it's just really um some heads where it's just beef
Speaker 1: on site, Like because somebody died, I mean somebody died,
Speaker 1: and if somebody's brother somebody's sister and this is their
Speaker 1: little cousin. And this is your best friend, and his
Speaker 1: older brother got killed and these are the guys that
Speaker 1: did it. This is his cousin. Like if if somebody
Speaker 1: you know, never would happen. But if somebody's shot Britain,
Speaker 1: you've seen their cousin. I don't know if you'd better
Speaker 1: to contain yourself the same. Maybe you don't put out
Speaker 1: a gun, but you might rust a bit. So it's
Speaker 1: all the same thing of just the human experience. What
Speaker 1: do you value your life for throwing away your life
Speaker 1: over if you don't have If your life don't have
Speaker 1: much value, you may throw it away for a lot
Speaker 1: less than somebody who has a lot. More like, if
Speaker 1: you have a a card is worth a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars or sixty three
Speaker 1: and pola, and somebody steals your car and you don't
Speaker 1: have insurance, I mean maybe you tripping a little bit
Speaker 1: more than a person who got they being stolen and
Speaker 1: got great insurance and get another one tomorrow. I mean,
Speaker 1: poverty is is a very restrictive place. You know that
Speaker 1: that poverty and oppression is a very restrictive place, and
Speaker 1: you know, you want to protect your assets, your greatest assets,
Speaker 1: and sometimes in that world it's like it's your reputation
Speaker 1: and maybe your greatest asset when you come from there.
Speaker 1: You don't have a great job that pays ninety thousand. Nay,
Speaker 1: you ain't taking care of all your kids are the
Speaker 1: best of your ability or to the best way it can.
Speaker 1: Your baby mama tripping because you don't got enough money
Speaker 1: for all of the silly stuff that she wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So it will drive you crazy and you will be
Speaker 1: some ship. And so yeah, the gangs, um, it was
Speaker 1: more like put together like how the Black Panthers was
Speaker 1: to protect the communities and to be able to help
Speaker 1: to empower that. I think that's a rough idea, but
Speaker 1: you gotta remember the Black Panther Party was started by adults.
Speaker 1: Crips were started by children. For he was for me
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, um ry Me was born
Speaker 1: in fifty three. He started the Crypts in sixty nine.
Speaker 1: He's sixteen years old. A lot of those guys too,
Speaker 1: were on Red Devil pills in middle schools or something.
Speaker 1: Red Devils are like, uh, it's like an upper ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people was doing those type of
Speaker 1: pills in the in the sixties. In the seventies, I
Speaker 1: listened to an interview on keV Max podcast Shout Out
Speaker 1: to the o Jehomie keV Mac got a Wtube channel,
Speaker 1: and he talked to took his wife and she was
Speaker 1: saying how all of them was popping red devils in
Speaker 1: middle school. This is in the sixties, So you know,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the mind that Foster gang man,
Speaker 1: I mean the way y'all see it. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily completely thought out correctly, but it's not anywhere as
Speaker 1: restrictive as you could imagine. It's a very open idea.
Speaker 1: It can be defined as very you rules, everybody kind
Speaker 1: of set their own rules. The only consistent rules are
Speaker 1: rules with them being a criminal. You can't tell the
Speaker 1: you can't snitch, right because as a criminal, they forced
Speaker 1: you to be accountable. Like you can't get out of accountability.
Speaker 1: You lose all reputation. If because it's all still a
Speaker 1: masculine sport. It's a proof of masculinity. So it's like
Speaker 1: the man who willing to be the most accountable is
Speaker 1: the most respected if you're gonna stand up and fight
Speaker 1: and go to jail and deal with your own cases
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna tell you get respect. People think
Speaker 1: it's about oh, you through your life away or you
Speaker 1: committed a feeling, that's to respect. No, if you are
Speaker 1: willing to be accountable for what happens, that's where you
Speaker 1: get your respect. It's all a it's all the machieves,
Speaker 1: most sport. I'm saying, proven who is a man just
Speaker 1: happen to be poor people. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It ain't really too many other things you could do.
Speaker 1: I don't think um they expected to be to blow
Speaker 1: up the way that it did. I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: over the United States, but I do see more. It's
Speaker 1: more bloods now or it was more cool to be
Speaker 1: a blood than it was a phase where I think
Speaker 1: a little way was popping that day. That was a thing.
Speaker 1: But now it's more crypts, a ton of crypts so
Speaker 1: Texas and Texas. It's a lot of crips. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of crypts since the eighties. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of crips. So, but I don't have a
Speaker 1: proper count of crypts and bloods across the country. I know,
Speaker 1: I've been a different hoods a crown across this country.
Speaker 1: I've been a different hoods around the world at this point.
Speaker 1: So I mean the cript and blood part don't really
Speaker 1: mean anything. It's really the community itself that comes together.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Like, you know, they may have grape streets
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, but they got different grape streets sets.
Speaker 1: These guys are from this There's a Mexican grape street
Speaker 1: and a Black grape street. So watch video Grape is
Speaker 1: the original gang over there. Yeah, watch video Grape and
Speaker 1: a lot of the older black dudes like Haunch Grape
Speaker 1: some of the more famous and popular names, or we'll
Speaker 1: watch video Grapes. They got w VG tattoos because that
Speaker 1: was the game. My gang is CV one one seven
Speaker 1: or seven street watching hung seventeen street. Watch my older
Speaker 1: homies is just like that too. They from a content
Speaker 1: video the Mexican Uh So, some of my older homies
Speaker 1: is my Black homies and some of my older homies
Speaker 1: Lonely Rabbit, they are Mexican. You know, at that time
Speaker 1: you grew up with each other. So y'alls from the
Speaker 1: same game, y'alls from the same poverty. As streets. Back
Speaker 1: to the Fat Joe part. Like, you know, some of
Speaker 1: my homies talk like that they grew up with them,
Speaker 1: they grew up with us. They raised me so what
Speaker 1: I look like Oregon with an attorney that grew up
Speaker 1: in middle class. About how me and my niggas came
Speaker 1: up thugging and starving together. It's a waste of time.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue with us about that. You gotta
Speaker 1: be from the streets to even understand. Good looking out
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