WEBVTT - 2025 NCAA Tournament Bracket Reaction Show (Ep. 680) 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.000 Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Betting Pros Podcast. I am 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Ryan Warmley, joined today by Terrell Furman Junior. We have 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.840 a bracket, Terrell. We can now look at the NCAA 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.480 Tournament twenty twenty five. We know the teams that are in, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.560 we know where they are seeding, we know where they're playing, 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.079 and we can start filling out those brackets. One of 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.280 the most fun stretches of days of the entire year 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.080 is just tinkering with my bracket and can't you know, 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.000 really struggling to decide who's going to be in my 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.240 final four, which usually happens in most years. How are 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.520 you doing today, buddy. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:29.880 Oh, I'm good. I'm great. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.600 My VCU rams won the A ten. Shout out to 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.479 the home team VCU for being able to get that done. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.600 I like the draw getting a BYU team that's ryan hot. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.920 They know that they can shoot, but they haven't seen 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.360 a defense like VCU, So I'm one. I love the 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.440 mid majors and one of my favorite parts of the 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.320 tournament is seeing what mid major decides to make the 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.600 dance and make this interesting for us. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.400 Speaking of mid majors, I promise we were going to 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.160 look at this from a non Homer view for so 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.680 the show, I have to ask my Maryland Terrapins. We 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.320 were just talking about a little bit before we started recording. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.760 They're facing a mid major in that four thirteen game 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.039 they get Grand Canyon. What are your immediate thoughts on 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:10.520 that one? 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.640 Oh, be careful, Maryland. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.840 This is a Maryland team that has a good amount 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.400 of tournament appearances and not a good amount of wins. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.200 Here and Greg and Canyon you talked about it in 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.800 pre production. Grand Canyons fans travel really well, and so 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.479 we'll see how that goes. But man, from a Grand 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.440 Canyon team that I think can do it all and 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.800 that has the ability to put up a lot of 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.640 offense and really really lockdown defensively, Maryland may be in trouble. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:39.440 Just maybe. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.679 Yeah, we'll see how that goes. I feel like Memphis 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.920 is a pretty decent five to get as a four, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:45.640 you know, I know a lot of places had them 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.000 seated a bit lower. So we'll see if they even 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.240 get to that point having to get past grad kid 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:51.600 and I do want to let everybody know that we 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.000 have a pick them contest here going on. 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All right, Terrell, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.600 let's start off with the really main conversation that you 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.400 see every year at this point, right after the selection show, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.440 which is the teams that didn't make it, and who 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.680 are the biggest snubs in your opinion? And not only 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.760 who are the biggest snubs, but who would you take 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:31.760 out to make room for them? 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.200 I mean, I think this year is not even the 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.440 conversation of what teams didn't make it. It's the conversation 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.359 of what team did make it that took something out 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.680 because North Carolina is in the field. And as somebody 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.520 who yes, I do like the North Carolina it's our heels, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.200 you know, coming down to the North Carolina area. I've 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:50.840 been around here a few and you kind of end 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.200 up picking loyalties one way or another when you frequent 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.880 around North Carolina too much. I questioned them against the 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.320 best teams. Everybody talks out the quad one win record 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.600 and all of that, and yeah, they got a little 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.080 bit of hot playing the bottom of the barrel the ACC. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.560 But the question mark is how how do you judge 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.120 the ACC? Because they were very very lukewarm in a 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.400 down ACC conference and they made it in the tournament. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.880 And if you told me Indiana got that spot, I 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.880 wouldn't have been surprised. If you told me Boise got 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.840 that spot, I wouldn't have been surprised. I think Boise 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.840 is the team that I look at and I'm like, oh, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.440 I really wish we kind of kind of get to 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.200 see that team in the tournament. But North Carolina making 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.639 it in I think that's the one that everybody's confused at. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.880 And now that they're in there, h they might win 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.520 a game maybe too. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.520 I was going to say, not only Carolina is the 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.200 obvious one. You're right about that, but those two teams 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.520 you mentioned were the two that I was thinking would 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.560 have a chance over Carolina and Indiana and Boise. So 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.680 I in locks up with you on that was Was 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.920 there any seating snubs in your opinion, any teams that like, yes, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.120 we knew they were going to get get in, but 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.000 you thought they were lower, or the other version placed 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.600 teams you got were higher than they should have been 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.280 seeded when you look at the bracket. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.720 I think the ending of the Big Ten Title game 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.840 was rather interesting. You had Michigan come in as a 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.280 five seed I believe in granted, Michigan looked horrible to 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.400 start the regular season, but they got red hot when 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.560 they needed to and won the Big Ten tournament. And 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.880 then you had that Wisconsin team who who I believe 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.359 was ranked a three. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.400 Is that what we're there are three? They were the 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.280 twelfth team on the escurve. Yeah, there are three. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.440 Yeah, So I'm like, ah, three for that Wisconsin team 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.520 that struggles like you saw it in the Big Ten 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.880 title game. That Wisconsin team struggles down the stretch of games. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.000 They will have you in the game. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.360 Have you in the game? Have you in the game. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.559 When you get to the final three minutes, four minutes 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.000 of basketball, it looks really really bad on offense, and honestly, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.200 what it looks like is a lot of just hey, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.640 figure out somebody shoot the ball and hopefully it goes in, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.159 and not a whole bunch of hey, let's make this set, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.360 let's do the things that were working for us all 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.440 the way up to this point. Wisconsin kind of melts 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.440 down in games, so the fact of seeing was consin 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.920 as a three. I thought they were overseeded and definitely 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.760 going to be a team that I'm looking out to 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.320 go ahead and get them out of the water early. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.800 Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I mean really 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.240 like Michigan. I get it. You mentioned some of the 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.640 struggles I had at various points in the season, but 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.640 I think you could make a at least a cogent 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.120 case that they should have been seated higher than Wisconsin, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.920 who was a three. Purdue and Maryland were both fours. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.120 I mean, Michigan just beat Maryland yesterday. Obviously Maryland beat 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.080 them at their place too earlier in the season. I 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.560 don't think Purdue's resume is all that exciting. Like I 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.840 was surprised to see Michigan out of five, given some 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.080 of the metrics and particularly how they finished the season. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:36.839 We see it a lot of years, though, that Big 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.760 Ten Championship game often doesn't matter because it's so late 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.279 in the process the bracket is typically made. So unless 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.039 that's a team that's going to steal a bid and 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.680 they have to leave open that contingency, you often see 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.799 it not impact seeding maybe as much as it should. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.039 I know that's like as a Big ten guy, Maryland, 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.039 I know that's something that people kind of often talk 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.920 about amongst the fandom. Are there any teams that just 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.080 kind of in this early conversation Soalle, you think people 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.200 aren't really talking about enough. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:01.799 Yeah, Wafford. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.800 I hate that the Wafford team got Tennessee as the 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.800 first draw, and that's really really tough. Maybe they're a 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.839 team that I'm looking to bet on against the spread 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.000 and not necessarily move them along with my bracket. But 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.360 that Wafford team, man, I mean, they are completely hot 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.599 coming into this tournament. From three, They're shooting forty fifty 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.080 from three into three games that it took them to 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.680 win the Soocon Championship. They their offense is simple. We're 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.720 either gonna shoot up a bunch of threes or we're 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.560 gonna get those easy percentage chances at the rim. And 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.720 Corey Tripp, Justin Bailey and they got a freshman Luke Flynn. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.520 They're all shooting better than thirty five percent from the field. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.760 Bailey's all the way up like forty five percent from 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.120 the field from three, So both like Wafford has a 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.440 whole lot of offense, and I was like, man, any 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.200 team is gonna really really be nervous. And then I 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.279 see Tennessee come across the board and I'm. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.159 Like, uh, not that team. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.440 That's a really really good team. So I really, I 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.440 really am looking at the at Wafford. Still, maybe I'll 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.680 bet on them instead of move them along in the brackets. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.800 But that was a really really tough draw. And then 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.680 my VCU rams this isn't really a lot of like 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.560 homersm at least I don't think for me with VCU. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.160 But they're a really really good defense. They have a 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.800 player that I think could be one of those darling 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.400 players that people talk about in the tournament in Matt Shulga, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.240 that can go out there and score on all three 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.840 levels and be really really good energy guy for them 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.720 and want to end their best players. So VCU if 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.720 they get past that BYU team and the hot three 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.280 point shooting that they have, and VCU makes that defense 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.560 and makes them play down to their pace, their level, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.280 and hey, this is a grinded out defensive game. Yeah, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.280 VCU can make a run and then they're gonna play 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.960 that Wisconsin team that we just talked about potentially in 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.080 the next round. So if you're telling me that VCU 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.320 gets BYU in Wisconsin and moves on to the Sweet sixteen, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.200 I wouldn't be surprised. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.920 I like VCU a lot. I always wonder when a team, 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.520 like a mid major team, has a coach that is 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.280 getting lots of looks at maybe moving up to a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.240 higher level. And I know there's been some talk that 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.520 like Ryan Odum is going to be the next guy UVA. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.840 Maybe I know Villanova. I've at least one reporter say 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.280 that could be interested in him. So I always wonder 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:04.920 if a team is gonna feel just like a little 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.160 bit distracted when they go into the tournament and that's 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.280 kind of hanging over the team. But I'm with you. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.760 I think VC is a good team. I think he's 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.520 a good coach. Obviously, we know what he can do 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.680 in the tournament, give it what he did with the 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.640 U NBC several years ago. 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All right, we're gonna go region 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.520 by region, but before we do, I do just want 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.400 to quickly highlight how strong these one seeds are this year, Turell. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.120 It is ridiculous. If you look at Kenpom, there have 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.000 been this century. I think it's four teams that have 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.720 had an overall net rating above plus thirty five on 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.240 Kenpom prior to this year. There are four this year alone, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.440 and of course is the four to one seeds. Duke 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.000 is number one in Ken Palm, Florida number two, Houston 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.120 number three, Auburn number four. Every one of those teams 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.160 is a net rating over plus thirty five. Even a 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.440 team like Tennessee you just mentioned is a really good team. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.000 They're the fifth team on ketub this year and they're 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.000 plus thirty one on ketbov. It is ridiculously strong, and 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.319 that trickles down to it's very deep as well. I 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.240 mean again, I've been following Maryland a lot this year. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.000 They're plus twenty six point three to five. That would 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.199 be easily a top ten team in most years. Their 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.079 twelfth in M Palm this year. That's just one example, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.800 very very very strong at the top this year. When 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.640 you look at these four one seeds, do any of 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.400 them stand out to you as being susceptible to an 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.120 early loss in this tournament? Or are they just so 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.200 good that we should be penciling them into our final 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.680 four pretty much right off the bat? 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.600 Uh penciling in? 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:47.200 I don't know. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.360 We'll see what Duke looks like. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.320 Duke has a lot of injuries, and we're gonna have 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.440 to see what this Duke team looks like going forward. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.240 And maybe that's something that says, Okay, maybe Duke could 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.760 beat Had because now you're having lineup changes, you're doing 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.439 things that you didn't do over the course of the 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.400 regular seas because you always had Cooper Flag, because you 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.680 always have believe because you always had all these players 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.800 that you never really had to play around with the lineup, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.200 especially in crunch time. And I think that's the part 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.520 that could really get Duke because if you go back 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.480 to the beginning of the season, Yes, this Duke team 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.560 grew over time, but that early beginning of the season, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.240 how young this team is that really showed up in 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.720 crunch time. And I think that's something that I always 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.640 kind of checked in the back of my head, like, hey, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 when they get in crunch time, sometimes they do fold. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.280 So maybe a Duke team like that, I could see 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.480 them becoming one of the teams that kind of goes down, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.600 especially how everybody talked about how down the ACC is 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.640 and they kind of ran through this ACC. Maybe there's 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.040 a little bit of bias of how Duke's been playing recently, 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.000 but I see Duke that probably be my number one 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:43.800 just to go down. But that's just because of the 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.640 continuity of Hey, they got some injuries here, there may 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.520 be some changes, some tink rings in the lineup, and 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.000 you don't want to do stuff like that when you 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.480 get to the biggest tournament all year. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.560 It feels like Duke certainly has the talent right Florida 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.840 playing as well as any team in the country. Auburn 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.559 at times has played as well as any team in 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.840 the country. They obviously have you know, John I. Broom, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.400 possible player of the year as well. So Houston's kind 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.319 of one that stands out to me, not necessarily even 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.600 to knock uson, because I think they're really good team obviously, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.439 but having to face Gonzaga potentially in that second round, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.000 who was also a top ten Ken Palm team, and 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.040 you get why Gonzaga might have been seeded where they were, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.800 but in terms of the metrics, a very very strong 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.320 team as well. So maybe kind of a tough road 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.199 for Houston there, at least certainly in the second round. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.880 Let's start going region by region, Terrell. We'll start with 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.000 where the number one overall seed is. That is Auburn 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.320 in the South. We don't yet know. There they'll be 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.400 faced facing a sixteen seed. We'll see which one ends 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:38.720 up being. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.080 It's gonna be a nine there, let me just go 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.480 ahead and give you that. Now, it's gonna be Alabama State. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.240 Let's go on sweat. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.280 You're locking that one in already, so Auburn will be 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.480 facing Alabama State. As you say, Louisville Creighton is the 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.079 game in the eight to nine. Louisville playing in Kentucky, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.600 so definitely a location advantage for them. Just to read 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.920 through the whole region, Michigan is the five going up 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.320 against UC San Diego, Texas A and m is the 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.240 four going up against Yale or misses the sixth seed. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.640 Obviously we're rating to see who they facing that eleven game. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.120 Iowa State is the three, Lipscomb is the fourteen, Marquette 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.600 at seven, New Mexico at ten, and the Michigan State 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.320 at two and Bryant at fifteen. When you look at 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.440 this just from Auburn's perspective, do you think this is 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.319 a tough draw for the number one overall seed. Do 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.080 you think it's a fair draw. Do you think they 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.439 maybe have a relatively easy pass? What's your initial reaction 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:27.960 for Auburn. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.440 I think it's all right. I think it's relatively fair. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.400 I think the eight to nine matchup is always going 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:38.560 to be interesting in this side of the bracket. Iowa State, 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.680 I think that is the one that you're really concerned 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.160 about and unfortunately, I believe one of the guards for 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.000 Iowa State isn't going to be able to play in 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.959 the tournament, and so that's one of the one in 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.080 seams I was looking at that. I said, Man, Iowa State, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.920 I think is seated a little low just because of 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.360 a couple of losses they took towards the end of 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.520 the season. At three, I think that they probably could 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.640 play so the level of A one or a two, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.560 to be honest, and they're all the way down there 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.480 at three, and then you're getting that with the Auburn 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.800 side of the bracket. And I still think even with injury, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.120 man Curtis Jones for Iowa State is a baller, Like 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.240 he's one of the guys that I think think of 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.400 when I think, hey, who's gonna be that person that 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.760 kind of takes over the tournament and makes everybody shine 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.720 and everybody's looking at them and they're talking about him 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.640 from weekend weekend weekend. Like I think he really is 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.400 one of those type of players where he could average 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.360 some twenty plus points over the course of the tournament 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.080 for Iowa State. So yeah, I think that's really the 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.120 big concern for here. For me Iowa State, and then 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.400 of course they get Izoe and Michigan. And it's been 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.120 a while since Izzo's been able to be Izo in 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.520 March and he's had that roster together. So I think 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:42.800 that this could be one of the years where that 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.880 makes this confusing for an Auburn team and make and 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:46.680 make things stuff. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.880 There's good players in every region. Obviously. This is a 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.360 region though, that has a number of players that I 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.960 think could become I mean, they're all very good already 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.199 and stars to certain levels, but guys who I think 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.840 could really kind of explode on the national scale. Obviously 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.800 we're ready to broom at Auburn and you just mentioned 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.200 Iowa State, but you know Cam Jones with Marquette Jace 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.719 Richardson the freshman at Michigan State. You know Michigan's two 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.240 big men. There's a lot of Chuckie Hepburn at Louisville. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.160 There's a lot of really good players in this region, right. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.120 Yeah, man, It's a lot Like I I think this 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.760 is a good one. I think this is a good one. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.440 If I had to go with a pick here, I 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.200 think I am sticking. I really really want to move 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.800 Iowa State. It's the final four here, I really do, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.840 but I think the injury is just too much. I 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.920 don't know what they're gonna be able to do about Jhannibro. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.240 But Iowa State does do a really really good job 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.160 of clogging up the lanes and clogging up the inside 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.800 making you shoot three point shots. And so I think 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.640 it'd be a good game if you get an Auburn 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.520 in Iowa State or Iowa State in a Michigan down 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.520 there in the lower part of the bracket. I'm gonna 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.520 go ahead. I'm gonna stick with the one seed here though, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:54.480 I'm gonna go Auburn. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.920 Do you have a favorite underdog in this region? 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.280 Hmmm, I'll see here. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:08.520 I could see a yet Yale and Yale in Texas 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.920 A and them. It's gonna be a good game. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:11.920 I was thinking in terms of the first year on 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.680 Yale might be a good choice. Maybe Mark Marquette, I 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:16.800 like Kim. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.520 Is the guy from Yale who I can never pronounce 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.480 his name. He is pronoun I can never pronounce his name, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.920 but he's a baller whatever his name is. Oh my gosh, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.720 he's a hooper. So I think, you know, and the 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.560 Yale team has been through a lot of turnover. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.840 And they're still really really good. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.680 So yeah, man, I could see a Yale team going, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.120 and then that would only like, bring this whole SEC 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.040 is the best conference and they're gonna get all these 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.120 teams they like we've seen so many times. It was 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.480 one year, I don't know if it was last year 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:49.880 with the Big Ten or the year before with the 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.920 Big Ten, but the Big Ten had a whole bunch 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.720 of teams and like half of them were. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:54.920 Out in the first weekend. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.960 Like sometimes you just you see really good basketball, really 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.160 good competitive basket wall in a conference and you assume 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.800 that that conference is dominant over everybody else, and they 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.440 always aren't. So so yeah, I think a Yale team 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.000 is fun. I think that UC San Diego team against 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.760 Michigan is also really really interesting as well, And so 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.680 I probably keep it to those two teams right there 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.440 and say we see a upset at four or five. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.920 Let's look at the East Region. Obviously, Duke is the 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.000 one seed. We already talked about Mississippi State and Baylor 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.240 in the eight to nine game I've seen. Baylor has 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.680 been here before. Oregon is the five, Liberty the twelve, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.040 Arizona the four, Akron, the thirteen BYU, the six VCU, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.600 the eleven, Wisconsin, the three, Montana, the fourteen, Saint Mary's 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.600 the seven, Vanderbilt, the ten, Alabama, this two and Robert 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.760 Morris the fifteen. You have already shared that we might 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.480 be thinking of Wisconsin as an early victim of getting upset. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.520 We already shared that you like VCU. So that's a 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.680 really interesting pod from the way you're looking at it. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.760 What about the rest of this region? Do you like 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.520 somebody in particular in kind of that Oregon, Liberty, Arizona, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.200 Akron range? Do you like anybody to upset Duke here? 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.320 You talked about them dealing with their injuries. Is Alabama 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.119 one of the stronger twos in EU opinion? How do 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:07.119 you evaluate this region? 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.080 Okay, So Oregon is always a team that I circle 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.520 because of Data Autman. Data Autman really really good head 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.359 coach when it comes to the guesst the spread numbers 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.760