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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Betting Pros Podcast. I am

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined today by Terrell Furman Junior. We have

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Speaker 1: a bracket, Terrell. We can now look at the NCAA

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Speaker 1: Tournament twenty twenty five. We know the teams that are in,

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Speaker 1: we know where they are seeding, we know where they're playing,

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Speaker 1: and we can start filling out those brackets. One of

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Speaker 1: the most fun stretches of days of the entire year

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Speaker 1: is just tinkering with my bracket and can't you know,

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Speaker 1: really struggling to decide who's going to be in my

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Speaker 1: final four, which usually happens in most years. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing today, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm good. I'm great.

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Speaker 3: My VCU rams won the A ten. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: the home team VCU for being able to get that done.

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Speaker 3: I like the draw getting a BYU team that's ryan hot.

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Speaker 3: They know that they can shoot, but they haven't seen

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Speaker 3: a defense like VCU, So I'm one. I love the

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Speaker 3: mid majors and one of my favorite parts of the

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Speaker 3: tournament is seeing what mid major decides to make the

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Speaker 3: dance and make this interesting for us.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of mid majors, I promise we were going to

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Speaker 1: look at this from a non Homer view for so

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Speaker 1: the show, I have to ask my Maryland Terrapins. We

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Speaker 1: were just talking about a little bit before we started recording.

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Speaker 1: They're facing a mid major in that four thirteen game

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Speaker 1: they get Grand Canyon. What are your immediate thoughts on

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Speaker 2: Oh, be careful, Maryland.

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Speaker 3: This is a Maryland team that has a good amount

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Speaker 3: of tournament appearances and not a good amount of wins.

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Speaker 3: Here and Greg and Canyon you talked about it in

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Speaker 3: pre production. Grand Canyons fans travel really well, and so

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Speaker 3: we'll see how that goes. But man, from a Grand

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Speaker 2: Just maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how that goes. I feel like Memphis

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Speaker 1: is a pretty decent five to get as a four,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of places had them

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Speaker 1: let's start off with the really main conversation that you

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Speaker 1: see every year at this point, right after the selection show,

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Speaker 1: which is the teams that didn't make it, and who

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Speaker 1: are the biggest snubs in your opinion? And not only

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think this year is not even the

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Speaker 3: conversation of what teams didn't make it. It's the conversation

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Speaker 3: because North Carolina is in the field. And as somebody

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Speaker 3: who yes, I do like the North Carolina it's our heels,

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Speaker 3: you know, coming down to the North Carolina area. I've

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Speaker 3: But the question mark is how how do you judge

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Speaker 3: And if you told me Indiana got that spot, I

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, not only Carolina is the

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Speaker 1: there any seating snubs in your opinion, any teams that like, yes,

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Speaker 3: I think the ending of the Big Ten Title game

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Speaker 1: Is that what we're there are three? They were the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm like, ah, three for that Wisconsin team

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Speaker 2: Have you in the game? Have you in the game.

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Speaker 3: When you get to the final three minutes, four minutes

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Speaker 1: I mean, Michigan just beat Maryland yesterday. Obviously Maryland beat

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Speaker 1: I know that's like as a Big ten guy, Maryland,

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Speaker 3: I hate that the Wafford team got Tennessee as the

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Speaker 3: that Wafford team, man, I mean, they are completely hot

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Speaker 3: coming into this tournament. From three, They're shooting forty fifty

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Speaker 2: Like, uh, not that team.

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Speaker 3: That's a really really good team. So I really, I

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Speaker 3: But that was a really really tough draw. And then

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Speaker 3: my VCU rams this isn't really a lot of like

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Speaker 3: But they're a really really good defense. They have a

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Speaker 3: VCU can make a run and then they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: I like VCU a lot. I always wonder when a team,

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Speaker 1: by region, but before we do, I do just want

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Speaker 1: to quickly highlight how strong these one seeds are this year, Turell.

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Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. If you look at Kenpom, there have

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Speaker 1: been this century. I think it's four teams that have

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Speaker 1: Kenpom prior to this year. There are four this year alone,

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Speaker 1: and of course is the four to one seeds. Duke

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Speaker 1: They're the fifth team on ketub this year and they're

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Speaker 1: It feels like Duke certainly has the talent right Florida

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a nine there, let me just go

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Speaker 3: ahead and give you that. Now, it's gonna be Alabama State.

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Speaker 3: Let's go on sweat.

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Speaker 1: You're locking that one in already, so Auburn will be

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Speaker 1: Obviously we're rating to see who they facing that eleven game.

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Speaker 1: Iowa State is the three, Lipscomb is the fourteen, Marquette

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Speaker 3: I think it's all right. I think it's relatively fair.

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Speaker 3: seams I was looking at that. I said, Man, Iowa State,

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Speaker 3: when I think, hey, who's gonna be that person that

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Speaker 1: There's good players in every region. Obviously. This is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, It's a lot Like I I think this

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Speaker 3: Iowa State. It's the final four here, I really do,

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Speaker 3: But Iowa State does do a really really good job

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Speaker 3: it'd be a good game if you get an Auburn

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Auburn.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite underdog in this region?

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'll see here.

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Speaker 3: he's a hooper. So I think, you know, and the

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Speaker 2: And they're still really really good.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I could see a Yale team going,

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Speaker 2: Out in the first weekend.

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Speaker 3: Like sometimes you just you see really good basketball, really

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the East Region. Obviously, Duke is the

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Speaker 1: We already shared that you like VCU. So that's a

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Oregon is always a team that I circle

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Speaker 3: You're always interested in, Hey, what's the line on Oregon

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Speaker 3: They've played Arizona in years past. It wasn't just two

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you quickly, is Arizona maybe gonna

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Speaker 3: What was that Princeton?

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Speaker 3: of least resistance for them, because I think that whether

436
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Speaker 3: you get Saint Mary's or Vanderbilt, they have familiarity. With Vanderbilt,

437
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Speaker 3: I think they can outshoot Saint Mary's. And on the

438
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Speaker 3: other side, I told you I'm not confident in Wisconsin,

439
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Speaker 3: and I think they can out play offensively be BYU

440
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Speaker 3: and the high shooting offense and three points that they have.

441
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this is pretty comfortable with me

442
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Speaker 3: going Alabama in this region.

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Speaker 1: If I ask you for an underdog, I'm assuming you

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Speaker 1: would pick VCU given what you've already said.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Rams do struggle offensively, and when you

446
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Speaker 3: get to an Alabama you gotta be all the way,

447
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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't give him as my underdog all the

448
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Speaker 3: way through. But yeah, I do think that they can

449
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Speaker 3: make this game very competitive with BYU, I think they

450
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Speaker 3: can beat BYU. And if you tell me they beat BYU,

451
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Speaker 3: and I have VCU in a game against Wisconsin, I'm

452
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent taking VCU. So yeah, yeah, maybe VC

453
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Speaker 3: you can get me a little sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Nice little run there. All right, let's go to the Midwest.

455
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Speaker 1: Houston is the one seed as mentioned and going up

456
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Speaker 1: against SIU Edwardsville, then Gonzaga the eight, and Georgia the nine.

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Speaker 1: Clemson is the five. McNeese Underwill Wade is the twelve,

458
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Speaker 1: Purdue the four High Point to thirteen, Illinois the six.

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Speaker 1: They'll face the winner of Texas Xavier. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: It's not on the bracket. I'm looking at Kentucky the three,

461
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Speaker 1: Troy the fourteen, UCLA seven, Utah State the ten. That's

462
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Speaker 1: an interesting one, and then Tennessee to two and Wafford

463
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Speaker 1: you already mentioned, is the fifteen. I think the standout

464
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Speaker 1: for most people looking at this is going to be

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Speaker 1: again I kind of already alluded to this, but Gonzaga

466
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Speaker 1: is a top ten team on Kenpom according to the metrics.

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Speaker 1: As a potential round two matchup for Houston, that's a

468
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Speaker 1: tough one.

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Speaker 3: I feel very confident about Houston in that matchup. I

470
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Speaker 3: think Houston defensively has the press, has the ability to

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Speaker 3: speed Gonzaga up a little bit more than what they

472
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Speaker 3: want to be offensively, especially in the half court, and

473
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Speaker 3: get them turning the ball over. I think Houston be

474
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Speaker 3: able to offensive rebound in that game. It's really just

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Speaker 3: the size and if as long as Houston can combat

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Speaker 3: the size, I think they have the guard play that

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Speaker 3: you know, Gonzaga is so predicated on with nim Hard

478
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Speaker 3: and all those guys over there, I think that they

479
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Speaker 3: have the guard play that can play really, really well

480
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Speaker 3: with them. I think Houston is I have I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 3: have multiple brackets going over the course of this season,

482
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Speaker 3: and there are three teams that I'm pretty confident that

483
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have winning, and there's Florida, Houston, and then

484
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Speaker 3: I may, you know, just in case I hate Duke

485
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Speaker 3: into a title outthrow one with Duke in there, but

486
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Speaker 3: really really hoping the Duke one doesn't come through, but

487
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Speaker 3: just in case I hate them, I'll throw one in there.

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Speaker 1: I am not somebody who has typically liked Brad Underwood

489
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Speaker 1: or this Illinois team that much. Maybe that's because I'm

490
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Speaker 1: a Maryland fan, and for whatever reason, Maryland owns Underwood.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable how often may be eat him, even when

492
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Speaker 1: they're less talented. But I do kind of like them

493
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Speaker 1: against Kentucky if it gets to that point. I think

494
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Speaker 1: it's a good matchup for them with the lack of

495
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Speaker 1: defense you get from Kentucky, Like Illinois can run back

496
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Speaker 1: and forth and I think they can definitely outscore them.

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Speaker 1: I like Tennessee a lot kind of in their pot

498
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Speaker 1: of four down there. They're also just a really good

499
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Speaker 1: team obviously, as we talked about, So I kind of

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Speaker 1: like Illinois to face Tennessee when they get to that

501
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Speaker 1: point in the I guess that'd be the Sweet sixteen.

502
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Speaker 1: The other kind of region of this region and that

503
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Speaker 1: I think is really fascinating is this Clemson McNeice gew

504
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Speaker 1: High point range. Anybody can come out of the cog

505
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Speaker 1: case for any of those four teams exact.

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Speaker 3: Any any of those four teams can come out of there,

507
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Speaker 3: and I would be like, all right, understood, it's March

508
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 3: like that's what happens, and you know, tough things like

509
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Speaker 3: Clemson is a team that we seen them beat Duke,

510
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Speaker 3: like when everybody thought Duke was unbeatable, and there was

511
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Speaker 3: nobody that was gonna get in front of Duke. Clemson

512
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Speaker 3: went in there and played them in a tough game,

513
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Speaker 3: got them into what exactly I was talking about, a

514
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Speaker 3: late game situation. That's what you want to get with

515
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Speaker 3: Duke k Just don't try to go out there and

516
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Speaker 3: blow them out by twenty points and beginning the game. Hey,

517
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Speaker 3: let's stay it. Stick with them, stick with them, stick

518
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Speaker 3: with them, keep with a close game. Because when we

519
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Speaker 3: get in a late game situation, that's where we execute

520
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Speaker 3: and we can hope on the young the youthfulness of

521
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Speaker 3: that Duke team, and Clemson was able to exploit that

522
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Speaker 3: earlier this year when they got the win. And so yeah,

523
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Speaker 3: I think Clemson can go out there and beat anybody.

524
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Speaker 3: But oh man, there's some power going on with Will

525
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: Wade and McNeice right now. Did you see did you

526
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Speaker 3: see the manager for McNeese.

527
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Speaker 2: On social media? Oh man, dude, he was sitting there.

528
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Speaker 3: He's had a spcial media video and it was after

529
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Speaker 3: they had won, and he was like, yeah, we're going

530
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Speaker 3: dance and look at it and he shows off his sweat,

531
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Speaker 3: so it's got march Is on his sweats. He's like, yeah,

532
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Speaker 3: that's where we're going a huh seeing next Sunday. Yeah, yeah,

533
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: and he got an nil deal with like Insomnia Cookies

534
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Speaker 3: and Buffalo Wow Wings.

535
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, this dude is electric. This is what March

536
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Speaker 2: is about.

537
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Speaker 1: He's a great coach too. I mean, like, obviously the

538
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Speaker 1: reason he's at the Levelly he is is because of

539
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: some of the stuff with paying players in past years

540
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Speaker 1: before that was allowed. But like, Will Wade is a

541
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Speaker 1: very good basketball coach. I like mcneesse a lot, and Purdue, like, listen,

542
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: obviously they're not what they were last year without Zach Edie.

543
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Smith is really darn good as well. Yeah, high

544
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Speaker 1: Pointing not an easy matchup, though, I don't think so.

545
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: Like that's a really interesting again, any of these four Klepston, McNeese,

546
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Speaker 1: Purdue high Point, Like you could talk me into making

547
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Speaker 1: a Sweet sixteen run.

548
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: Watch that high Point, Watch high Point, and it went

549
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Speaker 3: out right against Purdue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Perdue's been upset before in the tournament, right.

551
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Speaker 3: Like I hate yeah, and uh, I would hate it.

552
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: It's so many times that Purdue has just gone into

553
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: the tournament and laid an egg. And I think that

554
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Speaker 3: watch high Point be the dog that everybody's playing. I'm

555
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Speaker 3: sure by the time the end of the week gets here,

556
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Speaker 3: high Point is gonna be the dog that everybody's playing,

557
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: because everybody's gonna look at Purdue and being like, do

558
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: I really want to lay that many points with Purdue?

559
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: Nah?

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah? All right? What will keep us from Houston Tennessee?

561
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Speaker 1: Or are you saying it's gonna be Houston Tennessee and

562
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Speaker 1: the Elite eight?

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

564
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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's gonna be Houston Tennessee.

565
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Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be rather chalk Houston Tennessee,

566
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Speaker 3: and then Houston just has I like Houston's offense a

567
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: lot more and I think that they're gonna be a

568
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: lot more consistent on offense and the defense is gonna

569
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Speaker 3: do what it does if they have the guard play

570
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Speaker 3: to guard Thenier and guard Ziegler and really not let

571
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Speaker 3: those guys be the guys that beat them. We'll see

572
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Speaker 3: how the bigs are able to do and that they're

573
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Speaker 3: able to counteract that in the game. But I think

574
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Speaker 3: that those Houston guards are good enough defensively that they

575
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Speaker 3: can take away the top two guard options for Tennessee

576
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Speaker 3: and make this a really, really tough game.

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Speaker 1: You guys will be doing that in a couple of

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Speaker 1: days with some first round bets, some of those first

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Speaker 1: four bets. We're gonna doing that for every round and

586
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Speaker 1: all all tournament long with you two, So that will

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Speaker 1: be something everybody wants to check out before they place

588
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Speaker 1: their bets. All right, let's get to the West Region.

589
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Speaker 1: Florida is the one seed going up against Norfolk State.

590
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: You condy eight, obviously coming off back to back championshit.

591
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: Be careful about that Norfolk State team to put some

592
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Speaker 3: respect on their name. They played a Tennessee team and

593
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Speaker 3: lost by it was like five or seven points or

594
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Speaker 3: something like that.

595
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Speaker 1: So I almost paused when I read them to let

596
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Speaker 1: you jump in.

597
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So give that Norfolk State scene some respect.

598
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Speaker 2: I understand.

599
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Speaker 3: Is we got a lot in front of us right now.

600
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Speaker 3: But they are gonna come in, They're gonna go play hard,

601
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Speaker 3: and they're gonna cover the spread. Darn it, they are

602
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: going to cover the spread against Florida. They played that

603
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: Tennessee team tough.

604
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Speaker 1: What do you think that spread's gonna be?

605
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh, dude, it's probably something crazy. It's probably like twenty

606
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Speaker 3: and a.

607
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Half the way Florida's playing.

608
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Florida.

609
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: Florida is one of my like I really really think

610
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Speaker 3: it's going to be tough to beat Florida in this time.

611
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Speaker 1: I think they're still good. I think Todd Golden is

612
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: a great coach. I I really one of my really

613
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: good friends is a Florida grad. I texted him the

614
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Speaker 1: day they made that higher. I said, he's going to

615
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Speaker 1: take you to a Final Four in the first three

616
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Speaker 1: or four years. I think he's I think he's really good.

617
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they just they have too many athletes. Just

618
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: like everybody on that team can score the basketball, score

619
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Speaker 3: the basketball efficiently. They offensive rebound at one of the

620
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Speaker 3: best in the nation, and all those offensive rebounds probably

621
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Speaker 3: come back into three point shots made for that Florida team.

622
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Speaker 3: It's just too much offense for anybody. I mean we

623
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Speaker 3: haven't even gotten through naming the rest of the bracket yet,

624
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Speaker 3: but like it's really hard for me not to think

625
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Speaker 3: Florida is making out of this region.

626
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

627
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Speaker 1: You know a lot of my Maryland fan friends were

628
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Speaker 1: talking about, call you, we got to avoid Duke, or

629
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Speaker 1: we got to avoid Auburn. I was like, I want

630
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Speaker 1: to avoid flor Yeah, nobody is playing better than them.

631
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Speaker 1: Of course we didn't avoid them. Uh. The eighth seed

632
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: is Yukad, the nine is Oklahoma, the five seed Memphis,

633
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: twelve seed Colorado State also playing very well right now. Maryland,

634
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: of course, is the four Grand Canyon, the thirteen Miszoo

635
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: is the sixth Drake, the eleven that's a really interesting one.

636
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, the three UNC Wilmington, the fourteen Kansas, the

637
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Speaker 1: seven Arkansas, the ten Saint John's, the two Omaha, the fifteen.

638
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Speaker 1: First of all, at the bottom of this region, we

639
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Speaker 1: might get Rick Patino against John GALLIPERI.

640
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be amazing, that would be amazing.

641
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the Italian American Bowl that's going on in

642
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: that game, Oh man, I just it is gonna be great.

643
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: It is gonna be great. We probably should get Tommy

644
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: DeVito course side for that one. Uh we got we

645
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: gotta dig what's my guy over there? That head coach

646
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: for Indiana football coach hand football coach.

647
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: Signetti guy from Jmut Signetti.

648
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: We gotta get Chris Sinnetti over there? Like this is

649
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Speaker 2: that's good? That would be a great game.

650
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, Kansas, of course, you know Bill

651
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: self and a lot of talent on that team. They

652
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: could upset our Italian Bowl in the second round. But

653
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: an interesting pod there. Obviously, Rick Petino has done an

654
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: amazing job at Saint John's and you know legendary, clearly

655
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: legendary coach, arguably the best of all time. So might say, so,

656
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, that'd be a really interesting area. Missuo Drake,

657
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I think is a really fun matchup? What do you

658
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: make of that one?

659
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Oh man?

660
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if Miszoo finds a way to score the basketball,

661
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: then they'll win. But Drake is gonna Drake's gonna play

662
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: well defensively, And I think with the time and prepare

663
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: and the watching film and getting ready for this miszud team,

664
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if Missoo's gonna be able to get

665
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: that done. I mean, Drake has been the team. I

666
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: think all year people have talked about, Hey, they're gonna

667
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: do something in tournament. They're gonna do something in tournament.

668
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I think now is the time that we're here and

669
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: we just got to get behind them. That Drake team

670
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: really really something different.

671
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Defensively, what do you think about Yukon? I know I

672
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of skip past them quickly, but again, they have

673
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: won two straight titles. We know what Hurley can do

674
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: as a coach. This is not the same Yukon team.

675
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean last year on this very show, I was

676
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: asking our guests, is it Yukon versus the field? Like

677
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: that's how how clear of a giant? They were clearly

678
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: not the case. Obviously they're an eight seed. Now would

679
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: you be scared if you're a Florida fan and you

680
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: have to go up against Yukon in round two?

681
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't think I am. I don't think.

682
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm like and I was talking with someboddies and as

683
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: the brackets drop, you know, everybody's texting live reactions and

684
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: they're like, man, Florida, tough draw, and I'm like, well,

685
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: if we just stripped the name Yukon from the team

686
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: and it's just Team A standing there and I'm.

687
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Looking at I'm like, well, I still think this Florida

688
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: team can beat Team A and they will be really

689
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: really good.

690
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if they have the bigs that

691
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: is that are gonna be able to continuously battle with

692
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Florida downlow in the paint over the course of the

693
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: entire game, because Florida's cyclic bigs in and out of

694
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: the game, like they have so many options and gotten

695
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: so much healthier. And so I mean, Clayton and you

696
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 3: talk about Richard and all these other guys, Like, I

697
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: think that they have so many offensive power, so many

698
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: offensive weapons on that side of the ball all that,

699
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: no matter how good Yukon is defensively, somebody really really

700
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: good is going to get their hamds on a basketball

701
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: and get a pretty good look at the basket. So

702
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: I don't think Yukon actually makes it a game at all.

703
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: If you tell me Florida Yukon, I'm probably gonna end

704
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: up taking whatever points I have to lay with Florida

705
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: and saying that they handle business here.

706
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: I do think it is. I think Florida is good

707
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: enough that it doesn't matter. But I do think this

708
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: is a relatively touch draw. Not because of Yukon, but

709
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: just this region as a whole is really strong, even

710
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: just looking at the coaching. Look at how many former

711
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: championship winners there are in this region. We just mentioned

712
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Hurly with Yukon obviously, Caliperry, Bill self, Rick Patino, those

713
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: three alone is remarkable. I think Texas Tech is an

714
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: excellent three seed.

715
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: Like coach Kyle coached himself out of it and so

716
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: we don't have to worry about that.

717
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he obviously's got the experience. I mean, I

718
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: would say this, I think the two, three and four

719
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: seeds are stronger in the West than they are in

720
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: any other region. I think I think Saint John's Texas

721
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Tech Maryland to me is stronger than like like Tennessee,

722
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Kentucky Perdue. I like Tennessee, I don't really like Kentucky

723
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Purdue all that much. You know, we talk like Wisconsin's

724
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: at three in a different region. I know, we like Alabama,

725
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Arizona is the four. You know, Texas A and M

726
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: is the four another region. I think I think the

727
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: region as a whole, even if not necessarily that matchup

728
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: with Yukon. I think the region as a whole is

729
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: very strong. I know, like, like again not to be Homer,

730
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: but like people have talked about Maryland with they're starting five,

731
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: is like a possible dark horse Final four team, probably

732
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: not anymore given that they're going in the region with Florida,

733
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: but there's just a lot of talent in this region

734
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of really good coaching, so it's a

735
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: really strong one and I think that could make for

736
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: some upsets because there's so many good teams in terms

737
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: of seeding, but maybe not upsets in terms of like

738
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: the coaching matchup or anything like that. I do just

739
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: have to say, like I have to give a little

740
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: analysis on Maryland because that's the team I care about most.

741
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Sartreaty five is incredible. I'm not a big fan of

742
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Willard, so I really worry about his two tournament

743
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: wins in his career, and it's been an eighteen year career,

744
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: so that's really concerning to me. We already mentioned how

745
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Grant Canyon like could be kind of a scary matchup

746
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: for them, and they have zero death like what there's

747
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: absolute nobody in their bench to mention in fact that

748
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: there was a really interesting stat during the Big Ten tournament,

749
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: and I knew this in my head, but I didn't

750
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: realize how significant of a stat it was. They are

751
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: the only team in the entire country to have every

752
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: single player is either either averaging over eleven points per

753
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: game or under four. There's no like bench pieces averaging

754
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: six points per game, eight points per game. It is.

755
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: They're starting five is all averaging a dozen per game,

756
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: and they're all It's a superb starting five. They called

757
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: the crab five. They're awesome. Everybody else is totally useless

758
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: of scoring the basketball. And if they get into foul trouble,

759
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: how their game is officiated is going to be really

760
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: meaningful for them, because if they get into foul trouble, screwed, screwed,

761
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: it's over. It's absolutely over. So that's my thought on Maryland.

762
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I do like the match up with Memphis if that

763
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: is the four or five game we get in the

764
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: second round, but like I said, we'll have to see

765
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: it if they even get end up getting there. Is

766
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: there an underdog in this region that you are eyeing

767
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: or I mean, I know you already said you're you're

768
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna take Florida, but if you had to pick somebody.

769
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Else, Yeah, Drake is very I think Drake's really interesting

770
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: and what they can and the fact that if they

771
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: get past Maszoo, they get potentially Texas Tech, who is

772
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: amazing offensively and not a bad defensive team, amazing offensively.

773
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: If Drake can hold that Texas Tech team to under

774
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: seventy points, oh, man, I think Drake is definitely gonna

775
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: be in the conversation of oh, they kept these games close,

776
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: if not won these games outright, and we finally get

777
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: that Missouri Valley madness in the tournament where they move

778
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: on to a sweet sixteen round. So yeah, I could

779
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: see that Drake team definitely getting up for some games.

780
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Who are some other dark horses you like for the

781
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: final four in any region? So you know, not a

782
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: one seed, not even a two seed, maybe not even

783
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe a three seed could count, but somebody that you

784
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: would qualify as a dark horse that you would like

785
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: to kind of highlight here.

786
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: It's gotta be that Iowa State team still State. Yeah,

787
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Iowa State with even now with the fact that they're

788
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: missing I believe it is Gilbert and not gonna be

789
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: able to play in this game and so in the tournament,

790
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: but they still have Kurt like, I think that this

791
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: is still a really good offense. They play really really well.

792
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: It's just a three point shooting. If they can defend

793
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: a three point line a lot better than what they've done,

794
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: especially against like BYU and some of these other teams

795
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: in the past, then I think that they're gonna be

796
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: really really lock solid and really really good team. They

797
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: played well in out of conference. Like, I think that

798
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: Iowa State is one of those teams that I'm looking at.

799
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I could see them a three seed

800
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: making it to the Final four and being in there

801
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: in the conversation, especially if you get past an Auburn

802
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: or something weird happens with Auburn, then yeah, I can

803
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 3: see Iowa State getting there.

804
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: Do you have any kind of Cinderella predictions? I know,

805
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: you know double digit seed will say, And we talked

806
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: a little bit about high point En McNee. We talked

807
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: about vcus and eleven. Yale is a thirteen Grant Canon

808
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: is a thirteen. Do you have kind of a favorite

809
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Cinderella or two.

810
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: It's a few of them out here. I'm very interested

811
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: a lot a lot of those times, some of those

812
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: teams from the first four games will go in there

813
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: and they'll be able to go up and get up

814
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: and go and get on a run. I know VCU

815
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: two thousand eleven first four was able to go out

816
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: and make a run. We saw UCLA make it to

817
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: the final four out of the first four and they

818
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: made a run. So as I look at the first

819
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: four games and if there was a team that was

820
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: I really just don't want to believe that North Carolina

821
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: has it in them. But they were good out of conference,

822
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: and I think that's the thing that pulled them in

823
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: is how good North Carolina was.

824
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Out of conference earlier in the year.

825
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: So if North Carolina decides to try to go on

826
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: a run now, I think the tough thing is that

827
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: even if they get out of this round, they're playing

828
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: an Ole Miss team and the SEC beat up on

829
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: the ACC this year and the SEC ACC Challenge, So

830
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: well we'll see about that. But I'm looking towards the

831
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: first four games. Maybe we get a Texas that comes

832
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: out of there. And Texas got really, really hot in

833
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: that SEC tournament, so maybe a Texas comes out of there.

834
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: Because like you said, I'm a little bit iffy on

835
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Illinois right now.

836
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: And if they're gonna be able to play well.

837
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: And then if they get another matchup with Kentucky and

838
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: the SEC rivalry like that could potentially either way. Maybe

839
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: they get up, maybe they lose it at Kentucky team.

840
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: So not too many cinderellas outside the ones that we highlighted.

841
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: I do like high Point. I think they could be fun.

842
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: McNeese possibly could be really fun. Everybody knows that I'm

843
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: gonna be cheering for my VCU Rams, watch out for Vanderbilt,

844
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: who had a really good season this year. So I

845
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: think there's a couple number of teams and I hate

846
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: to say it, but that Maryland team really does struggle

847
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: in the tournament, man, like they really do. I blindly

848
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: told myself I was gonna fade Maryland in the tournament,

849
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: and so if Grand Canyon just needs one to get

850
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: them going, then maybe they do to out.

851
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Maryland won the national championship in two thousand and two.

852
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Do you know how many Sweet sixteens they've made since then?

853
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: How many Sweet sixteens have they made since two thousand

854
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: and two?

855
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Two you went too high, They've made one one Sweet

856
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: sixteen And by the way, it was the Turgon like

857
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: year where They were the number two team preseason with

858
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: diamond Stone and Mellow Trimble Robert Carter, and they didn't

859
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: they didn't even do anything with that. They were terrible

860
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: like like that. The best they did was they got

861
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: to the sweet sixteen and got blown out in the

862
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. Yeah, they're not good in the tournament.

863
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: They gotta be careful because that that Grand Canyon team

864
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: also plays really good defensively and if this is an ugly,

865
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: grinded out defensive game between these two teams, and it's

866
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: just like whoever gets on that last run goes And

867
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: plus Grand Kyon's a pretty solid offensive rebounding team as well.

868
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: So I I, you know, my Maryland fan friends think

869
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: that I want them to lose because I don't like Willard.

870
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I want them to win, right, I would love nothing

871
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: more than to be incorrect, but I just don't think

872
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: Willard has the stuff for March. And they're talking about

873
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: extending him, which by the way, was a very difficult

874
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: piece of news for me to read earlier today. But yeah,

875
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: like they just and also the fact they're playing Seattle

876
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: like not going to be easy to Maryland's worst game

877
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: of the entire season, was there at Washington this year,

878
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Like they're not a team that travels well. So they

879
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: only lost by six because they didn't have any bloods

880
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: this year, but they looked awful in that game and

881
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Washington is not good, so, uh that that really concerns me.

882
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think you're wrong about that. Any players

883
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: that we didn't highlight that you think could maybe kind

884
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: of jump out throughout the course of this month. I

885
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: mean we always see some of these guys were already stars,

886
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: but like the Shabbaz Napier, like the Kemba Walker like

887
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: kind of led you kind of those runs Marky Snoel

888
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago for Kansas State. Anybody stand

889
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: out to you that you think we could be uh,

890
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, really excited to talk about for the next

891
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: few weeks.

892
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, I feel like it's like a lot of

893
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: guys that you talked about Cam Jones over there, Marquette

894
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: got to shut out my guys, Shaka Smart one time.

895
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: We talked about Kurt over there in Iowa State. I

896
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: mean it's a bunch of players. Some of the smaller

897
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: schools got got a lot of dolls. Matxtion will go VCU.

898
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a good one. We

899
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: talked about Grand Canyon and in Maryland, they got a

900
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: guy down there, Grand Canyon, Grant Fall, who's been really,

901
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: really good, and I think that he may be able

902
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: to give them a game and make.

903
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: A little name for himself. So I think it's a

904
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: lot of players that I'm interested in.

905
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: I really like Marquette, honestly, I would not be surprised

906
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: if we're sitting here a few weeks from now and saying,

907
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, Michigan State, they didn't have enough star power.

908
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: They had a lot of death, but they didn't have

909
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: enough star power. I always stayed dealing with the injury.

910
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: If we're sitting here a couple weeks from now and

911
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Marquett's in that Elite game, Elite eight game, I don't

912
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna put in my bracket, I would not

913
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: be surprising. Cam Jones is a baller.

914
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: Shaka's got to get over that that monkey off his

915
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: back in the tournament. Shaka has not performed well in

916
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. Trust me as a guy that is

917
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: a fan of Shaka Smart After he took VCU from

918
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: that eleven seed all the way to.

919
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: The final four in twenty eleven.

920
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: He hasn't he hasn't replicated the same success in a

921
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: long time, and so very very I'm always iffy about

922
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: Marquette when it gets to the tournament, But I mean

923
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: Cam Jones is just a dog like he is an

924
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: absolute dog. He was going out there and he fought

925
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: everything he could in that Big East title game and

926
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 3: really throughout the whole Big East tournament. So there's a number,

927
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: there's a number of players Drake. I think Drake has

928
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: a couple of guys in there that that are gonna

929
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: be really really good for the tournament as well.

930
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: Any other kind of final warking thoughts on the tournament

931
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, anything that we haven't

932
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: hit on, or just kind of general thoughts about what

933
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: this tournament. You know, some tournaments are a little chalk

934
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: heavy than usual, other easy get out, we're upsets is

935
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of any final thoughts.

936
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: I think that we are.

937
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: We've seen years past where a lot of the underdogs

938
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: come through, especially early rounds, and I think this is

939
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: another one. There's a number of underdogs here that I

940
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: think can make teams competitive at least games competitive. Maybe

941
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: not get the outright, but maybe I'm betting on them

942
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: against the spread. Like I said, I had that Watford

943
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: basketball team circled like, oh man, this dude is this

944
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: team is red hot right now and they're going into

945
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: a matchup against a very, very tough Kentucky team And

946
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: that wasn't the draw you wanted. But like even you

947
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: and CW, we didn't talk about them on the show

948
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: that much going up against Texas Tech. Everybody assumes Texas

949
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Tech is getting out of there easy. But this UNCW team,

950
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: first tournament appearance in twenty seventeen, they feel felt very

951
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: very slighted going into their conference tournament. They put on

952
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: a really big run and they got out of it.

953
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: They could be somebody that makes some noise. Arkansas is

954
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: getting Boogie Flann back from injury, so they're gonna be

955
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: playing full strength against the Kansas team. We got to

956
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: see what that looks like. Arkansas is a ten seed here,

957
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: Like there's some teams here that I'm like, all right,

958
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: we could actually see something going. Because Calipari, he may

959
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: not be the best ex's and o's coach, but when

960
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: you give him the talent and how they play defensively

961
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: all year long, they just got to get hot. At

962
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: the right team, right time, and that Arkansas team might

963
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: be able to make a run. So there's a number

964
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: of teams that I'm looking at that I'm like, hey,

965
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: things could follow their direction and they could be a ten, eleven,

966
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: twelve seed. That's making it a little bit further than

967
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: people thought.

968
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with our shoot from the hip gut

969
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: reaction final four picks. We are obviously we reserve the

970
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: right to change these betweed now and the start of

971
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: the tournament. We've kind of sprinkled them in throughout talking

972
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: about the regions, but just officially our final four picks here,

973
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: what do you got for us?

974
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: Just go with Florida coming out of the West region.

975
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna take Auburn coming out of the South. We

976
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: are going to Yeah, I'm not officially giving out the Dukies.

977
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

978
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: Give me Alabama getting out of the Eastern region. And

979
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: then I'm sticking with my Houston pick coming out of

980
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: the Midwest National title game. Give me Houston versus Florida.

981
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: So here's my problem, my gut reaction to giving my

982
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: final four picks is Florida, it's Auburn, it's Alabama, and

983
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: it's Tennessee. I refuse to give four SEC teams. It's

984
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be that in the final four, So I

985
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: have to shake it up somewhere, which means I'm going

986
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: the one I feel like I most want to change

987
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: up from that group is Alabama. So I'm gonna go

988
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: with Duke, even though I kind of do like Bama.

989
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I just can't go for SEC teams. I also just

990
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: like I hate Duke so much that, like I know

991
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: it's what's gonna happen, is they're gonna win because I

992
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: because I don't want them to uh, and they are

993
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: obviously an insanely good team went healthy if if the

994
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: lineup is right, like there's a reason they're number one

995
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: on ken Palm and there's actually like even a gap.

996
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: We talked about how strong those other three one seeds

997
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: are historically, there's a gap between Duke and those guys too.

998
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: Like against ACC, I get it, injury stuff, I get it,

999
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: but obviously like a super talented team and would would

1000
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: not be surprised. So I'll say Duke against Tennessee, I'll

1001
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: say Tennessee beats to do. I'm gonna say Tennessee makes

1002
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: the title game. Here on my.

1003
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Shoot call Rick Barnes making it all the way.

1004
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: So the title game, this is a regular season, regular season.

1005
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: It is dangerous. I'll say Florida over Auburn, and then

1006
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I'll say Florida wins it all again. I just think

1007
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: nobody's playing better than Florida.

1008
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I got Florida over Houston in the title game,

1009
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna have a bed on Houston.

1010
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: Man. I think Houston's got some value.

1011
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: And if Houston, if we get some upsets here or

1012
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 3: there and the path opens up, Houston is gonna look

1013
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: way better than whatever set plus seven fifty they are

1014
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: right now.

1015
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna dive into more of some of our

1016
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: betting futures in the coming days. You guys, like I said,

1017
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: you and Paul are gonna break down some of the

1018
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: first round matchups here in the weekend, and we'll be

1019
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: chatting again kind of each week leading up into each

1020
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: weekend for the next three weeks of the tournament. So

1021
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: there is a lot more college basketball talk to come,

1022
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: a lot more March madness to come. Enjoy this week

1023
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: of filling out your brackets everyone, because it is, like

1024
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: I said, super fun to quibble with all of your

1025
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: picks and just you can dream big every single year.

1026
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: It's the hope springs to Turtle for sure. Great talking

1027
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: to you, Terrell, best Eluctive VCU hopefully best luck to

1028
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Merlin as well. Forterrell, I'm Ryan warmly thanks everybody for

1029
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: tuning in and we'll see again next time. Thanks for

1030
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,959
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