1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Andrew Marshawn, senior sports media consultant, columnists for The Athletic, 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: All right, help us understand this carriage dispute. And let's 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: say I don't know anything, which you can say, but 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: help me understand how we got here and how it's settled. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Well, how we got here is these disputes have been 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: going on forever. YouTube started YouTube TV in twenty seventeen 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: thirty five dollars per month, the idea of being cables 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: too expensive, So you know, they put this together. It's 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: become pretty popular. Ten million people have it, and. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: Now as they grow where. 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: They're in competition with Comcast and Spectrum whoever. 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 4: Around twelve million. 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Is the biggest places where people get their networks like ESPN, Fox, NBC, etc. 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: They're now eighty two eighty three dollars a month. So 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: what happens is there's fights all the time between over 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: the years between providers like ESPN. ESPN charges around fifteen 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: dollars per month to these entities and then they pass 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 3: it on to consumers and so they are arguing about 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: the price. When you look at Alphabet, which owns Google, 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: and YouTube. They are a three trillion dollar company. Disney 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: is a two hundred billion dollar company. And so it's 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: I wrote my column yesterday, it's like rooting for the 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: Dodgers or the Yankees. 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: Nobody wins. The losers are people like you have YouTube TV. 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Dan, how do we make our voices heard? Because 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: ESPN's had their big name talent come out, and I 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: guess campaign that ESPN's not the bad guy in this. 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: I think the point that I would make is the 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: amount of money of these companies make three trillion dollars. 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: You know, that's the market cap around for Alphabet For Disney, 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: it's two hundred billions, So your eighty dollars is not 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: that important to them. 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: So I'm not saying they don't care. I'm not saying 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: they don't care. They do care. 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: I don't think they're insincere and caring at some level. 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: But in terms of this is just pure business. YouTube 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: wants to be treated like the big boys with the 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: like I could pore people with the actualities of it all, 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: but they want to be treated like the other big entities. 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: ESPN is pointing to the fact that they just easily 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: did deals with spectrum and others at the same price 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: point or similar price points, and so that's where the 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: divide is, and so there's no picking who's right. I 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: wrote yesterday, Google's mantra or motto has been you know 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: a couple of things, but one is, you know. 49 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: Do no evil. 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: It feels very evil that you're paying eighty dollars a month, 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: you did your end, you didn't get your gay teams 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: this weekend or Monday. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: And then Mickey Mouse. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: I've said before it's a he's a passive, aggressive little rodent. Now, 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: they do a lot of great things at Disney, but 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: they also are business people, so not always the happiest 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: place on earth. 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: And so there's nobody a root for here. 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: And you know, we went through though where where it's 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: gonna take a little longer now because you had college 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: football on Saturday, you had Monday night football. 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 6: No deal. 63 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: So now I don't really expect anything to happen until 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: you know, this weekend or maybe Monday football next week. 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: What's the future of streaming, Like, can you get to 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: a point where ABC, CBS, NBC aren't carrying the marquee events? 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Is there is that in the linear TV in the 68 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: not too distant future. 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that. I think if you look 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: at all time. 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Maybe, but in terms of the short term, next decade 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: or so, we're you're gonna have this. I mean, I 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: think a perfect example would be the NBA just did 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: incredible deals for them for seventy six billion dollars and 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: they're gonna be on NBC, your peacock as well. 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: They're on Amazon Prime and then they remained on ABC 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: and ESPN. 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: So the idea that Netflix or YouTube TV or Apple 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: or Amazon Prime Video is about to take over everything 80 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: is a misnomer, at least in the near term. 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Even when the NFL, which is surely going. 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 3: To opt out when they can at the end of 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: this decade, or at least the threat and to opt out, 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it will change. I do think you 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: could see a Netflix get in bigger, or YouTube TV 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: getting bigger, Amazon Prime Video getting more. I think those 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: are all possibilities, But I don't think, and I think 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: it would be stupid of the NFL where to get 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: rid of the model they have with ABC and ESPN. 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: And the networks. 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: And so, yes, those guys are coming, but they're not 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: fully there yet. 93 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Marshawn. He works for the app Athletic. You can 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: also listen to is twice a week podcast at Andrew 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: marshawan dot com. How good month did baseball have? 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: Amazing? 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: I think we all were intrigued the numbers for Fox. 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: Twenty six million people watched on Game seven, which is 99 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: even if you understand the ratings because of a Canadian team. 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: They didn't get the Toronto market, so the home city market. 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: I think there are another ten million people or so 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: who watched in Toronto. Those don't count for Fox's ratings. 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: So really good. And then the playoffs are always really good Baseball. 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: Look, I've crushed baseball because the way they've done their 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 3: media deals have been terrible, and they're just they're still bad, 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: and they're pointing towards twenty twenty nine and maybe they'll 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: be able to make it so it's a little less complicated. 108 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: If you're a Yankee fan, for example, you might go 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: seven days and you might have to have seven different 110 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: entities to watch your games. 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: It's a problem. 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 3: And so but the sport as a whole is really 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: doing well. The pitchclock we all know is great. Attendance 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: has been very high, the playoffs are exciting and the 115 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: best time in the sport. So you know they're gonna 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: have to figure out their media deals. But in terms 117 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: of this month giving them some momentum going into next 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: year when they add NBC and Peacock, they are gonna 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: be on Netflix for opening Day and then ESPN and ABC. 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: Steal is going to change a little bit. They have 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: momentum as a sport. Now, they got to figure out 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: how to get rid of blackouts and some other things 123 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: which they know and they're not they're not naive to 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: it all. But that's their next step in terms of 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: growing even more. 126 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: How is ESPN done bringing in the TNT studio show. 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's been great. I think I love 128 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: Charles Barky like you do. I think we were probably 129 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: too maybe talk to him the most throughout the whole process. 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: When he retired and unretired. 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: And and he did kind of get into that he thought, 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't tell him. 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 5: I mean I. 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Reported from the beginning they weren't acquiring it to change it. 135 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you see what they've done with Pat McAfee. 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: They licensed his show. He does his show the way 137 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 3: he wants. 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: Steven A. 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Smith at this point does whatever he wants. The idea 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: that you're going to bring in those four guys iconic 141 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: show and change it did not make any sense, and 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 3: especially if you watched what ESPN's done. 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: So you know ESPN social media people go a little crazy. 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: I think, you know, some other people who have some 145 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: big audience did kind of question if ESPN would leave 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: it alone. 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: I never thought they would touch it. And so it's 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: the same program. 149 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be off of the air a little bit 150 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: now till the new year, but then it will be 151 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: on every week through the playoffs. 152 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Thank you, Andrew. 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I didn't know I needed one, but I 172 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: got one. Jay Glazer from Fox NFL Sunday joining us 173 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: from London? Yes, what are you doing in London? 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 6: Why not? 175 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 7: Why would I not be here? London's the trade deadliner? Well, 176 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 7: the trade throw down? Didn't you know that? 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: Are you ahead of everything? 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: Do you know? 179 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 6: I'm getting ahead for Sunday out here in London? 180 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 8: You know? 181 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 6: You know what happened. I'm doing our Veterans Day Show, 182 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 6: which is the best show we do every year. 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 7: Right, We're not doing it from a military base this year, 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 7: so I'm gonna be doing it from Washington, d C. 185 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 6: From the Veterans Day Parade. And I said to. 186 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 7: My wife, Hey, you know, I'm never on the East 187 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 7: Coast during the season ever, so you want to go 188 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 7: somewhere Caribbean or something like. 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 6: It's just as you know, to go from Malibu to Washington, 190 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 6: d C. Is you know seven hours? I said, you 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 6: want to do? 192 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 7: And she said, you know, my wife was modeled all 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: over the world and she's never been to London. 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 6: So she's like, how about London. I'm like done, So 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 6: We're going to London. 196 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 7: So that's why I'm doing the trade deadline from London 197 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 7: here and I'm gonna go from here to DC. 198 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: Awesome. So it's the Veterans Day Show Sunday from DC, 199 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: the Veterans Day Parade with Fox NFL Sunday. What do 200 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: you expect to happen today? 201 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: So no, no, go ahead, So I do look Dallas, 202 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 6: it isn't done. 203 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 7: I want to make some moves here. Uh, they're brought 204 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 7: in the Logan Wilson. They're also still talking about bringing 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 7: in a pass rusher. Seattle's getting little. They've been aggressive 206 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: to upgrade most on the offensive side of the ball. 207 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 6: You know, everyone's looking for pass rushers. 208 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 7: But but you know, for Trey Hendrickson, who a week ago, 209 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 7: I would you know, teams are like now they're they're 210 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 7: not interested. Now they're more than listening, but they're asking 211 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 7: for an awful lot Bradley Chubb's the other guy out there, 212 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 7: which which I think Miami is just kind of looking 213 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 7: to get his money off their books. 214 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 6: They're not asking for an awful lot. 215 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 7: So I could see one of these teams looking for 216 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 7: a pass rusher like you know Dallas Chicago teams like that, 217 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 7: you know, jumping in on a on a Bradley Chubb. 218 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 7: And then you know, look, everyone's looking for a corner, 219 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 7: but there's really no corners out there. A couple of 220 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 7: receivers on Fox that you know, there are teams who 221 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 7: were asking about a j. Brown and he was like, no, 222 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 7: no shot that they'd be a mutant in that locker 223 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 7: room of Ajan Brown went anywhere. So that's not happening. 224 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: So then after that, you know there's a big drop off. 225 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 7: There's like, you know, she Heed from the Saints. I 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 7: can see him go on the move, Calvin Ridley from 227 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 7: the Titans. They're trying to you know, shop around for 228 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 7: a third round pick, which is a lot. You know, 229 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 7: Myer's out in with the Raiders and the Steelers were 230 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 7: interested earlier, but there's not you know, people for trade deadline, 231 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 7: they're hoping that okay, we're gonna have a Christian McCaffrey 232 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 7: type thing. And even like Garoppolo is big years ago 233 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 7: when the forty nine ers did that, or Von Miller 234 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 7: with the Rams. 235 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: A couple of years ago. 236 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 7: They're hoping for these big names, but it's just not 237 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 7: like that these days. It hasn't been for the last 238 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 7: couple of years. 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: But of all these edge rushers, I don't know if 240 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: Max Crosby is untouchable. 241 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 6: No so Max. 242 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 7: Max told me he does want to go anywhere. That's 243 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 7: straight from the worst of mouth, which he's told them, 244 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 7: and they've also told. 245 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 6: Him we're not moving yet. 246 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 7: I know it's fun because you put a little thing 247 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 7: out the other yesterday with like an eagle symbol, and 248 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 7: everybody thought he. 249 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: Was going to the Eagle. 250 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 6: I actually texted one of my guys and the eagles 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 6: and I. 252 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: Wish and it's not happening, okay. 253 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 7: But I had another team say to me they asked 254 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 7: me to ask about Max. It's funny to being an 255 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 7: inside because people will ask at. 256 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: Least me, wait, they're using you as a middleman, because then. 257 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 7: It's culpable deniability if they If I've been had teams 258 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 7: off say hey, can you offer them this? Because then 259 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 7: let's say it's a player and it's not them trying 260 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 7: to get rid of player. 261 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 6: Right, they didn't call I call. 262 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 7: I'm just an inside trying to get, trying to get, 263 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 7: but then I have the inside information. 264 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: But Max, I had A team asked me about. 265 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 7: Max and I said, uh, I said, no, he wants 266 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 7: to stay, you know, and uh, guys like, man, he's loyal, said, 267 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 7: Max is extremely loyal, and they go, that's what we 268 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 7: love them. 269 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 6: But man, we wish he wasn't. 270 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: What about Miles Garrett? No untouchable. 271 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: I've been told the hard no from everybody I've asked. 272 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 7: You know, I don't understand. If I'm the Browns and 273 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 7: I can get, I think you can. Probably you may 274 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 7: be able to get more than what you know Dallas 275 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 7: cut from Michael Parsons, they're clearly going, you know, they're 276 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 7: still in thoroughs in rebuilding mode, so there's just always 277 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 7: a rebuilding, rebuilding mode. 278 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 6: I feel bad for Browns fans, I really do. 279 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: Okay, that's speaking of the Browns, and I know there's 280 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: all this you know, speculation, rumor innuendo, and then somebody says, hey, 281 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: the Jets should trade for Shador Sanders so let me 282 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: just ask, is is that something that you think that 283 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: the Jets would entertain. 284 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 7: I don't know what the Jets thinking is, but obviously 285 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 7: they have a quarterback issue over there, so I don't know. 286 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 7: I don't know where they had him in the draft, 287 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 7: and that's another issue. I think there's a lot of 288 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 7: teams were looking at Shaudors. You're really high up when 289 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 7: you want him the first or second. They didn't, so 290 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 7: I don't even know they can consider him later on. 291 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 7: Clearly he's talented, right, so he kind of just got 292 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 7: lost in that shuffle, but I don't know where he. 293 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: Was on their board or torp me to say, we're 294 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: talking to Jay Glazer joining us from of course London, 295 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Fox NFL Sunday Insider, and he'll be there for the 296 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: Veterans Day Parade in DC coming up this week. 297 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 7: In the Veterans I'm not going to be in London 298 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 7: for the Veterans Day break good. That was totally messed 299 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 7: up with. 300 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that would be. That would be ben. Let 301 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: me speculate on Chris Greer the GM getting fired by 302 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. I'll just speculate and then you tell me 303 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: if I'm off base, because you're keeping Mike McDaniel to 304 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: the end of the regular season. And I'm wondering if 305 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: management said or ownership said, hey, we need you to 306 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: sell off these parts and Chris Greer said, no, I 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: don't want to. I brought all these guys, built this 308 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: and uh and then they fire him, but they keep 309 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: the head coach. 310 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 7: No, No, I don't think that at all. I don't 311 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 7: know why the timing was. It was interesting though, because 312 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 7: of the timing of that's. 313 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: It's a week before the trade deadline when you need GM. 314 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: Yes, because also all the conversations that he had had 315 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 7: Champ Kelly, poor Champ Kelly got the Sunday He's like, 316 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 7: I don't really know what conversations really were being at 317 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 7: and like, you know, I had one GM just like 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 7: I'm just gonna tell. 319 00:14:53,360 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 6: Them that Chris and I have disagreed upon right. It 320 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 6: was terrible timing. 321 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 7: There was definitely a lot of empathy for champ Kelly 322 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 7: in there, But no, I don't think that was why 323 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 7: they did it. 324 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 6: But yes, it has There's a lot of people. 325 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 7: Who looking in the league going why because then you 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 7: have the Madrid game then the bye, so it makes 327 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 7: sense there and I do know Steve Russ had a 328 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 7: lot of love for Chris Career. I don't know why 329 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 7: they decided then, why they had to make that move 330 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 7: at that point, because that set things back. Maybe it did, 331 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 7: maybe because again there they still got you know, a 332 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 7: three for Jail and Phillips. 333 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 6: They're gonna move. 334 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 7: I think I wouldn't be a surprised if they moved 335 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 7: Chubbed today, you know. And then you know the problem 336 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 7: also is that now when you're trying to do a 337 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 7: trade though, it has to go all the way up 338 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 7: to the flagpole, yeah there in Miami. So you know 339 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 7: it's different than if it was just Chris Career. 340 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: Why did they keep the head coach? 341 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 6: I think you know, Steve russtill hasn't fitted for that coach. 342 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: Can he save his job? 343 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 344 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 6: I think you know what the reason why? I say, yeah, 345 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 6: you remember that year Jim Fossel look like he was done. 346 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 7: He's like, I'm putting all my chips in the middle 347 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 7: of the table, right, and then they go on this 348 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 7: run they go to the super Bowl, right. Remember also 349 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: the year and this is why I don't do the 350 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 7: coach's totsia crap because remember the year also that Ron Rivera. 351 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 7: He was supposedly fired, and then he goes to this 352 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 7: great run, becomes riverboat Ron they go to the Super 353 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 7: Bowl right like you know there was. People have guys 354 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 7: fired all the time, and I don't do it because 355 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: I like to deal in accuracy. I don't need I 356 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 7: told you the guys this years ago. I like to 357 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 7: be right, and that's why I don't do the minute 358 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 7: by minute breaking new stuff anymore, because. 359 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 6: People don't care about who's right. They care about who first, and. 360 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 7: Even when you're first, everybody' stealing it inside two seconds. 361 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 7: So I just want to make sure I'm always right 362 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 7: and that the coaching carousel, there's gonna be fifteen twenty 363 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: names on every year, there's gonna be seven openings, which 364 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 7: means at least half of those or three fourths of 365 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 7: those were incorrect. 366 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 6: So is there a way for him to save his job? 367 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: There is? It involves winning the table in a really 368 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: big fashion. 369 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: What's the future of tu Uh and Kyler Murray In 370 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: your opinion. 371 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if after this year, you know, 372 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 7: they could see if they can get something for Kyler 373 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 7: after this year. 374 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 6: I don't know what kind of market there would be 375 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 6: for Coyle. 376 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: And then as far as the Dolphins, I can't answer 377 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 7: because I don't know who's gonna be the coach next year. 378 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 7: If it's Micha l'daniel, those two have worked really well 379 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 7: in the past. Mike has a really good offensive coach. 380 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 7: There's you can't deny that it's a really good offensive coach. 381 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 7: But I can't answer that because I don't know who's 382 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 7: gonna be there. But as far as Kyler, there is 383 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 7: there's certain certainly cap implications. It was even this. 384 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 6: Look. 385 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 7: You hear so many things during this trade deadline, and 386 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 7: one of them was, hey, man, I'm here. 387 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: You know Colonels are shopping Kyler. I'm like, there's no way, there's. 388 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 7: No way you're gonna be able to do that now 389 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 7: with the capital implications. But I can almost see it like, Okay, 390 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 7: it's starting to leak out there now, just to set 391 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 7: it up for the. 392 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: Off season to see what's out there. 393 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 7: And that's you know the other funny line. I used 394 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 7: the stun Fox the other day, but this is real. 395 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 6: I got this. 396 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 7: I like four or five different gms have the same 397 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 7: type of line where they're like, oh, the line for 398 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 7: for subterfuge. This here, like everybody here on the draft 399 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 7: try to try to do subterfuge with you know, reporters 400 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 7: and this and that, right, but they're using it on 401 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 7: each other the GMS this year's trade deadline, where guy 402 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 7: would be like, man, we're not trying to trade player expert. 403 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 7: Can you believe all these guys are calling us about 404 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 7: player X, which means, what don't you want to give 405 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 7: us some player exit? 406 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 2: Subterfuge? Look at you. You go to London and you're 407 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: using words. 408 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm all smart. I't to you with in Oxford. 409 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: Uh. And you're in great spirits, you're in great health. 410 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: Great hey, And I like what you said. I appreciate it. Man, Dan, 411 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 6: I love you. 412 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 7: And you know, listen, I talk to people all the 413 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 7: time about checking up on their people when worse, when 414 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 7: I'm struggling, I check up on two people and let 415 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 7: them know. But I also, at the same time check 416 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 7: up on two people and don't let them know. And 417 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 7: that's just my way of being of service and that 418 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: helps me between the ears. And you're one of the 419 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 7: guys I reached out to and try and and check 420 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 7: up on it. 421 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 6: And I know what you went. 422 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 7: Through that that your health issues. It's man, it's slnely 423 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 7: and it's miserable. And I'm like, I will be there 424 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 7: for my dude. And then out of nowhere, right you 425 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 7: check up on me. I know last year, out of nowhere, 426 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 7: I know, right like Dan, I got the thing for you. 427 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 6: You got this place called origins. 428 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 7: I went down and did themselves and prevented me from 429 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: a three level fusion on my back and it freaking 430 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 7: regrew the reattached the my torn bicep tendant back to 431 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 7: my shoulder, like built a bridge, like tune. 432 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 6: You got to try this. 433 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 7: If anything, you'll just you and your wife will love 434 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 7: going down and you'll have the best time. And it 435 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 7: gave you a healing which like to meet you and 436 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 7: I have had a bunch of tears on it. That's 437 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: what a brother should do for the for the brothers. Man, 438 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 7: you know, you share healing. 439 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of nowhere, I called Jay, I said to 440 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: my wife, I said, I got to call Jay Glazer. 441 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: She goes, who's Jay Glazer? I said, I go in, 442 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: who's j Glazier? 443 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 6: Don't watch Fox simple. 444 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Sun, No, No, she's she's she's a chefty guy, you know. No, 445 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: she's not. No, not after I explained who you were, 446 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: and then I talked to you and I said, hun, 447 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: we're going to Panama for stem cell. She goes anything 448 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: that will help you and I and she heard your 449 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: voice and she said, he boys, he always liked that. 450 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: I said, no, no, you went through a dark period 451 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: and I remember talking to you and then I called 452 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: you and You're like, dude, I'm going to Italy. I'm 453 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: getting married. I've never felt better in my life. I go, 454 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: wait a minute, what are you doing? And then I mean, 455 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: helped change my life and got got me healthy. Err 456 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: And as I've said before on this show, it's not 457 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: for everybody. It's something that I believe in. 458 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 6: It for everybody. 459 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, I just want to be careful because people have said, hey, 460 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: it didn't work for me, or you know, they're not 461 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 2: going to the right place. But but it is is 462 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: it helped me and it's a stem cell umbilical cord 463 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: stem cell. 464 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: And uh. 465 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: I went to Panama at a place called Origins. And 466 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: you know when you go in there and there are 467 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: famous people in there, Jay, and you're you're going, oh, 468 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: oh hi, yeah, oh hi, you know, are you all 469 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: down there to heal right, yes, yes, uh, I know. 470 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: Are you checking your phone for trade in for I'm getting. 471 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 7: Call actually now saying guy asked me, what do you 472 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 7: think about Quinn Williams? 473 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 6: Last second here might have a shot? So great, dude, 474 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 6: love the guy, don't know her. 475 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: The Jets selling well, they warn't. 476 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 7: They were kind of like, hey, you gotta make us 477 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 7: a huge offer, blow us out of the water. But 478 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 7: you know, maybe somebody's willing to do something like that. 479 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 7: But I think that's just the interpretation of one team. 480 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 7: That's that's what you got to go through. 481 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: Quentin Williams would be a great pick up for something. 482 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if that's really going to be. 483 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: But Chub's going to get traded, you think so? 484 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 6: No, I think Cowboys Chubs early on the block, so. 485 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 7: He has a better chance than I think Williams. I'm 486 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 7: just saying quinnin as of the other day was like 487 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 7: a hard no. And now it's kind of like, hey, 488 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 7: maybe we can make a run of them. 489 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: Can we make a run? And guys will ask me 490 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 6: like what kind of. 491 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 7: What kind of guy? They last me, what kind of 492 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 7: guy is you know what? Like you go back to 493 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 7: the stem cell I've trained. I was one of the 494 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 7: first guys in the NFL to fight professionally in mixed 495 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: martial arts and twenty two years ago, and before we 496 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 7: really knew how to we just beat the hell out 497 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: of each other. 498 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 6: And then I Fox made me stop fighting. 499 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 7: I started coaching guys, and I've started training NFL players 500 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: in MMA, and I've trained hundreds and hundreds so as 501 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 7: a results, and then also like my training partners are 502 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 7: Randy Gature and Chuck Ladell and guys like this, And 503 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 7: I got everything working against me. 504 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: I'm five foot seven, Jewish guy said, I got everything 505 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: working against me. 506 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 7: But as a result of wrestling all these football players 507 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 7: man and training with these guys in spar and I've 508 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 7: ruptured twelve discs. 509 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: In my back. 510 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 7: I don't have an L four L five And Dan, 511 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 7: that's like you had heard me, Like I had a doctor. 512 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: Doctor walkins out here. 513 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 7: He's like, Jay, there's no more epidurals, there's no more tortos. No, 514 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 7: like we either got to do a three level fusion 515 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: or we're putting a rod in your back. And for me, 516 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 7: I just thought life was gonna be over. Like people 517 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 7: keep asking me, why do you keep like training and 518 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 7: sparring and doing this. I said, I'd rather kill me 519 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: than I die from not doing it. And I went 520 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 7: down just on a I threw a flyer up on 521 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 7: that stem cell. And the next day it's supposed to 522 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 7: take like good, you know, sixty days, ninety days, whatever. 523 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 6: I was a super responder. 524 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 7: Day two, I got out of bed and my wife 525 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 7: was like, oh my god, you're standing straight up. You're 526 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 7: five to seven again. But as the first time I 527 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 7: had been paying free in twenty something year. I first 528 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 7: ruped through my back in two thousand and one or 529 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 7: something like that, and man, it's just changed my life. 530 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 6: So I'm glad I was able to give you healing. 531 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: Man, I really give me the NFL player you think 532 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: could professionally fight like ufc oh Man. 533 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 7: There's a bunch of First of all, Kyle Long, but 534 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 7: you'd have to get down. We have to fight in 535 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 7: Japan with his no weight limits, was so nasty. Deshaun 536 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 7: Golston safety, Oh my god. And then a guy that 537 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 7: I've trained recently last couple of years, Derwin James. 538 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 5: Man. 539 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: I love Durwin. 540 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 7: Derwin is so athletic and he just picks everything up 541 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 7: and move and some athletes it takes a little while 542 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 7: from them pick things up. 543 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: Other guys, man, they pick it up. I'll tell you what. 544 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: The other interesting thing. 545 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 7: I've also trained a bunch of performers, right, I'm trying 546 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 7: to training that Jonas brothers and like whiz Khalifa and 547 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 7: stoop Dog Demie Levado. Though they pick things up really 548 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 7: well because they could pick up several steps, they could 549 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 7: pick up five steps in a row, and their hits 550 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 7: move great and they can connected with their footwork. Everything 551 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 7: starts from the ground up. We're NFL players and like 552 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 7: I have a wrestling background, we're meat ats. You know, 553 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 7: It's just we don't we're not able to think that 554 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 7: far ahead, but we can. 555 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: Get like that. It's pretty interesting. You think Derwin James, 556 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 6: I'll take her. 557 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: Do you think I could take a Jonas brother? 558 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: I think you would. Uh, you'd get choked out pretty fast. 559 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 6: But that's just me. 560 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the new one improved me right with the 561 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: stem cells. It I'm going after Joe Jonas. I don't 562 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: think he could take me. My best to your your wife, 563 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us and save travels back for the 564 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: Veterans Day. 565 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 6: I love you, man, love to see you doing better. 566 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's Jay Glazier. He'll be back on Sunday, 567 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: Fox NFL Sunday the Veterans Day Parade. That's their biggest show. 568 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: And uh joining us from London. 569 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 570 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 571 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 572 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: listen live. All right, before I get to Reggie Miller, 573 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: he was on the Rushmore podcast and Reggie was asked 574 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: the mount Rushmore of dunkers. He said, Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, 575 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: and Dominique Wilkins, and then came the fourth. 576 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: One said the fourth is very difficult. 577 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 6: It's very very difficult. 578 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 9: I will go with I do like Okay, okay. 579 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: Okay, NICs bringing Reggie Miller. Reggie, you'll be on the 580 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: call the Clippers and Oklahoma City coming up tonight. 581 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 5: Okay, I said it, and Dick with it. 582 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: No, you're not. You left out, doctor. 583 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: J I said it, and change it right now. 584 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: You panicked, Red, You don't panic. 585 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: I didn't panic. I thought, first of all, we all 586 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: had to have come to a consensus. So that was 587 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 5: my list. Shack had an entirely. He had power dunkers 588 00:26:53,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: on his list to omit arguably the founding fall of 589 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: the dunk It's a slight omission from my end, but 590 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't going my current events. Zach Lavine. In my opinion, 591 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 5: if you've seen some of our dunk contests over the 592 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: last ten plus years, he's right up there. Yes, Doctor 593 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: J should be in there, and arguably he was at 594 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: the end of the day, because all four of us 595 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 5: that had this roundtable discussion had to agree on the 596 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: top four. And yes, people, Doctor J did make the 597 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 5: mount rushmore of dunkers. 598 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: Because I want to know what you do in a game. 599 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys who can dunk in a contest. 600 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: I don't care very true, because you know, if that's 601 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: the case, I'm taking Mac McClung. 602 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: That's probably as bad as take as Zach Lavine. 603 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: On my end, No, no, no, I'm going to take Mac 604 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: McClung over Zach Levine. The greatest dunkers between those two 605 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: well showmanship. 606 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 5: Because if that's the case, you could put Aaron Gordon 607 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: in there as well. Because Aaron Gordon and Zach Lavine, 608 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: those two dunk contests between those two guys could have 609 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 5: been the best ever. 610 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: I just want in game dunkers, Sean Kemp in game dunker, 611 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Dominique in game dunker, Mike Vince Carter in game dunker, 612 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: Doctor J in game dunker. 613 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: You can make a case for Zaquabne. We would have 614 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 5: to go on We would have to go on YouTube 615 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 5: for a few hours and try to find some of those, 616 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: but we could find a couple of them well. 617 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: And then Shaq didn't like your take though on your 618 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: fourth dunker there, But. 619 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: Again he was going with power dunkers Kenyan Martin. I mean, 620 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 5: he didn't sell he put himself in there. But this 621 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: is what I'm up again, going against the big fella. 622 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get to a serious topic here with 623 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: Yahn Morant, because this feels like this is there's no 624 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: turning back here. It feels like Jahn Moran's checked out. Now, 625 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: if you're Memphis, what do you do? Where do you 626 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: send him? Or do you see that maybe there's hope 627 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: that he reconnects and re engages here or is that 628 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: ship sum I. 629 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: Believe the ship has sailed, and I think the only 630 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: way you're going to be able to turn course is 631 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 5: if you get a new coach in there, because if 632 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: they keep the current administration, jaw has checked out. I 633 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: didn't like the comments or the body language after that 634 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: Laker game, and listening to the comments last night after 635 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 5: the loss at home against Detroit, it was almost even worse. 636 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: Body language tells me everything, and just looking at it, 637 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: he has checked out. And you know, I look at 638 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: their roster. The oldest player on their roster is thirty 639 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: two year old Contavious Caldwell, Pope champion when he was 640 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: with Denver, and he's thirty two and he's still fairly young. 641 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: There is no one on that team to go to 642 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: John and say, dude, yeah, you got to get it together. 643 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: And I think that's been a theme over the last 644 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: five to ten years looking at some of these rosters 645 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 5: is not having veterans on them. I know this league 646 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: is getting younger, but to me, John needs someone pull 647 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 5: them aside, show him some clips. I mean, because this 648 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: is a bad look. And if you're Memphis, I think 649 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 5: you start filding calls unless you're going to fire your coach, 650 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 5: and then that's that's a bad precedent, right. 651 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: But who wants John Moran? 652 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 5: There are a lot of themes that would want John Moran. 653 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: Would you what what do you give up for him? 654 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: Okay, if I'm the Hawks, what if what if the 655 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: Hawks said, We'll give you Tray Young for John Moran? 656 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 5: I would seriously think about it. 657 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: If I'm Memphis, I would do that in the second. 658 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 5: If I'm If I'm the Hawks, I don't know if 659 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 5: I do that. Tray Young is a walking double double. 660 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, I would. If I could get Trey 661 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: Young right now for John Morant. 662 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 5: I would absolutely do it. If you're mid fit. 663 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm Atlanta, I probably wouldn't do it. But 664 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other teams where you're gonna 665 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: go he'll fit in like he doesn't fit in. You 666 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: kind of have to fit in with him. It feels like. 667 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: And he's an unbelievable talent, But are you going to 668 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: send him to Detroit or Houston? 669 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 5: I don't know he would. He would certainly have to 670 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 5: change the way he plays, and I don't think he can't. Theodore. 671 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 5: I love John Morant, but again, looking at that Laker 672 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: game and looking last night in that Detroit game, the 673 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: efforts not there, the hustle's not there, that the on 674 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 5: the court, showmanship that we're used to seeing from Jaw 675 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: is not there. He has lost his love for the game. 676 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: And once you do that, I don't know if you 677 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: can ever get that back in that situation. So what 678 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: a new lease on life, a new place, a new 679 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 5: destination that's is that going to clear things up? A 680 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 5: new coaching regime? Is that gonna switch it up again? 681 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 5: Both ways? If you ask for a trade or they 682 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 5: trade him, he wins. It sets a bad precedence. If 683 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: you fire the coach and it makes it look like 684 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: he's a coach killer, that sets a bad precedence. There's 685 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: gonna be no winners in this situation. 686 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, Reggie will be on the call 687 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: with Terry Gannon and it'll be Oklahoma City bus. Is 688 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Kawhi playing? 689 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: I have no idea. I saw him tweak that ankle 690 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: with a little over two minutes left in that fourth quarter. 691 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: I looked at the Clippers have always taken, as you know, 692 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: a cautious approach. I don't even if he wouldn't have 693 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 5: rolled that ankle. You know, they usually don't play him 694 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: in back to backs, though he did come out this 695 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: summer and said he wanted to play back to backs, 696 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: and I think that's what they were gearing up for. 697 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: But after seeing that now again, he finished the game, 698 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 5: but it was only two minutes left in that fourth 699 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 5: quarter where they ended up losing by one last night 700 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 5: to the Heat, I don't think he will play because 701 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 5: they will take that caution approach because they need Kawai 702 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: come March April May. So I think they'll they'll take 703 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: the cautus approach and probably not play him. From a 704 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 5: selfish standpoint for NBC, yes, I would love for him 705 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: to play tonight, going against the defending champs who are undefeated, 706 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 5: but I just don't think they'll take that approach. 707 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: Game time is eight pm Pacific on NBC and Peacock. 708 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: Is Kawhi's career a disappointment? 709 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 5: No? Are you kidding me? Two rings, two finals MVP? 710 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: Are you that was a joke? Right? No? 711 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: Because he couldn't he when he played, he was great. 712 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: But I think when I say Kawhi Leonard, people don't 713 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: talk about two rings and two finals MVPs. They talk 714 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 2: about a guy who had load management, almost the face 715 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: of load management. 716 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 5: I will also say this, he believes on the all 717 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 5: time team with me the top seventy five team as well. 718 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 5: How could that ever be considered a disappointment? Well, by time, 719 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 5: you can win any chip, two finals, MVPs with two 720 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 5: different teams, well two different teams. 721 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: But if I say his name that what comes up 722 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: is that how much he plays or doesn't play? First 723 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: bowel hall. 724 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: Of Famer, this first ballot Hall of Famer and win 725 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: healthy when healthy and playing and engage which he is 726 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 5: come playoff time. Man, that dude is a tough out. Yeah, 727 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: I would say I would take that career. Please give 728 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: me that caller. 729 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: No, you can still have a great career. But also 730 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: wonder what could Mike Trout is going to be a 731 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: first ballol Hall of Famer? So what if, right like 732 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: show be Kobe and Shack together? What if? 733 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 5: What if? 734 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 2: Great when they played? But what if? So you can 735 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: have those questions, but that what if? 736 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: Those what if that you're saying for Kobe and Shack 737 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 5: they still have three rings together? 738 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: They should have had six. 739 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: They could have. I mean you could have made the 740 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 5: case the same thing for keeping the Bulls together for. 741 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: One more year? 742 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 5: Right for one more ye? Yeah? What what if? 743 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: I also want to ask you about your did you 744 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: have a power forward? 745 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 5: Uh? 746 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: Your four power forwards for the amount Rushmore? Did you 747 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: have that? 748 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 5: Is there? We did? 749 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: Okay? Uh, Marvin, you want to set this up? Is 750 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: this the fourth power forward? Yes, Marvin, Yes. 751 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 10: So Reggie and Shaq were on the Rushmore podcast, and 752 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 10: so Reggie's four Reggie's first three, excuse me, was Tim Duncan, 753 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 10: Karl Malone, and Kevin Garnett. And he says his fourth, 754 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 10: his fourth isn't shocking, but who he says could have 755 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 10: been one was a little surprising to me. 756 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: All Right, play it. 757 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 11: I'm gonna go with sir Charles. I easily could have 758 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 11: put Dennis Rodman in that list. I easily could have 759 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 11: done that on my Mount Rushmore. 760 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, do you have with Yeah, it's not bad. 761 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 2: I would have put here here. 762 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 5: Here's here's the argument. Here's the argument that was going 763 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 5: on in the room. Because obviously Yanish probably can and 764 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 5: should be he could be on my list. Absolutely. I've 765 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 5: told people before, I told the basketball Godsmith, I've said 766 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 5: this perfectly. If I come back, if the basketball gods 767 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 5: could bless me with Janni's talent and my jump shot, 768 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: I would be the greatest player to have ever played 769 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 5: the game of basketball. Usually just give me Yannis and 770 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 5: my jump shot and then leave me alone. No one 771 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 5: would ever be able to touch me. So yes, he 772 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 5: could have been on my Mount Rushmore. But the argument 773 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: was going with because Ari Manuel, it's his podcast. He 774 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 5: was on with Chips. That's why Dennis Rodman entered the conversation. 775 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 5: And people are like, Dennis Rodmin is probably only the 776 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 5: grandest rebound. How could he? We're looking at total effects 777 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 5: on games. He changed series, so we started putting numbers 778 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 5: up like what did Charles avagsch Akinson? What did carl at? 779 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 5: Those numbers dropped because we're looking at the defensive side too, 780 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 5: So that's why Dennis Rodman I could say I could 781 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: easily slot them in there. But yes, the honest could be. 782 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 5: The honest was on a lot of other people's top 783 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 5: four and arguably should be. Again, give me his talent 784 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 5: in my jump shot and don't say anything else to me. 785 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 2: I think Kevin McHale would be higher than Dennis Rodman. 786 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 5: His name was highly disgusted. We agree with that. I 787 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 5: agree with you on that. 788 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to run this up the ladder at 789 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: Peacock and NBC the next round of interviews with Michael Jordan. 790 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: I would like for you to do the interview. 791 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: Okay, how do you say that? Not that, It's like, 792 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 5: I would love to do it. And this is the premise. 793 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: We just both walk in a room and sit down 794 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 5: and rolling. 795 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: No no exchange, no exchange. 796 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 5: None of that, none of that. Walk in, sit down, 797 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 5: look at each other and just go whatever comes out 798 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 5: comes out. 799 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: I love it that. 800 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 5: Look. I want to do it. I'm low man on 801 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 5: the total pole over there at NBC right now we're 802 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 5: rolling out these features with the great Mike Tarico, who's 803 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 5: done a fabulous job interviewing MJ. But yes, I would 804 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 5: love to have a have an open dialogue to your 805 00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 5: door with MJ. Because there's certain things I would love. 806 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: To you, like, uh, you know, talk about revisit, revisit Okay, 807 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to. 808 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 5: Forget like I don't people act like I don't like MJ. 809 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 5: I love MJ. But when you go against a brother 810 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 5: for as many years as I did, you you built 811 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 5: up a certain disdain. Can you say that? Can I 812 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: say that you built up a certain tolerance and there 813 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 5: was always mutual respect. I'm trying to I'm carefully trying 814 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: to script my words here. 815 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: You don't want it to get back to Mike, And 816 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 2: he said, what did you say? 817 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 4: No? 818 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 5: Good, Look, it's only going to get back to Mike. 819 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 5: Mike hears and sees everything. He'll always get back to him. 820 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 5: But I just want him to know how much I 821 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 5: do respect him. But let's just walk in a room 822 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 5: together and just talk. 823 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson has a book that's coming out 824 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: and it talks about the exchange that you and Mike 825 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: ad where you were talking trash to him, and then 826 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: I think Phil says, Mike scores like five or six 827 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: baskets in a row and saying, don't you ever don't 828 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: you ever talk bleep about me or to me again? 829 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: Is that true? 830 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, but you were willing. 831 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: To stand up to Mike, and not many guys did. 832 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 5: I had an unfiltered mouth, and maybe it was my 833 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 5: upbringing in a military family, being a military brat and 834 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 5: getting my butt beat by my older sister and older 835 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 5: brothers all the time. I had diary of the mouth. 836 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 5: And you, I just could not stop. And I didn't 837 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 5: care who you were or what your accomplishments were. I 838 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 5: felt I was always the best player, knowing I was 839 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 5: didn't know I wasn't, but you gotta have that belief. 840 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 5: And he look, he put the fear in a lot 841 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 5: of people. And trust me, there was times when I 842 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 5: was like this dude, but I didn't love him, respect him. Damn. 843 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 5: I also hated him too. I did. 844 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: If he would have asked you to join the Bulls, would. 845 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 5: You stop it? Stop it? Please stop that. 846 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: Like later in your No. 847 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 5: No, there's just no way. There's absolutely no way. And 848 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 5: I know people are gonna be like, well, yeah, that's 849 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 5: why you don't have any rings probably so it's true. Yeah, 850 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 5: well I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not. I 851 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 5: can't do that. That goes against That goes against everything 852 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 5: I was taught from Magic and Michael Cooper, and that 853 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 5: goes against everything. If you can't beat him, you just 854 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: go in the corner and sit down, just go away. 855 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 5: Then if you get hey, that's it. 856 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: What if Magic called you and said, if Magic said, hey, 857 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: would you. 858 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 5: Like to story? 859 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 2: Now that's different. I'm playing for the Lakers. 860 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 5: Different the Lakers twice a year. 861 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 2: All right, I'm running this up the flagpole at NBC 862 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 2: the next time that Tarico's gonna sit down. Mike comes 863 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: in and then Tarico goes, hey, uh, I gotta go. 864 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: Reggie's going to do the interview. 865 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 5: Oh my god, the fireworks. Some of the things that 866 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 5: would be said, you will understand, like Mike and I 867 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 5: and our good friend Jack Hayley, God rest his soul, 868 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 5: who's looking down on us smiling. We hope like we 869 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 5: used to be locked in a room playing TNK, talking 870 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 5: shit and just talking basketball. And there were some things 871 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: that were said in the In these it was trust me, 872 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 5: just have him walk in, Have me walk in and 873 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 5: just sit down so I won't look at him. 874 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 2: Do you need to bring the Davis brothers with you if. 875 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 5: You walk in, Well, he's gonna bring him. 876 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 2: If he brings Oak, he's bringing I'm bringing down. 877 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 5: All right, we'll let the muscle handle each other out 878 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 5: and then he and I can handle our business. 879 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 2: Reggie will be on the call with Terry a Gin 880 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: and tonight the Clippers maybe with Kawhi against OKC eight 881 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: pm Pacific on NBC and Peacock. Thank you, Regg, talk 882 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 2: to you later. 883 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 5: Well. You are truly the best. Love you, Dan