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Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to just also make sure that
Speaker 1: folks who are listening in that you all know something
Speaker 1: that I posted about this weekend. And sometimes we're taping
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Speaker 1: the goings on of the world. So that's that on that, um.
Speaker 1: And now it is election season. There's actually early voting
Speaker 1: happening in this moment. November eighth is the day, the
Speaker 1: final day to vote. UM, I think that, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: been so much concern around a number of issues just
Speaker 1: in the media. There's all types of things happening in
Speaker 1: the media. There's controversy there's uh, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of just drama, a lot of pain, a lot of laughter,
Speaker 1: just all types of things going on on social media
Speaker 1: and in the media, and as a result of that, uh,
Speaker 1: things can get drowned out. The mid term elections is
Speaker 1: something that does not get the type of attention that
Speaker 1: it needs in general, and they are, I believe, very
Speaker 1: specific reasons for why that happens, one of them being
Speaker 1: that there are actual forces that do not want us
Speaker 1: to focus on the mid terms because the men terms
Speaker 1: put people in power who are able to either push
Speaker 1: for or against the president's agenda, the federal government's agenda,
Speaker 1: and they have the ability from a local perspective to
Speaker 1: either push things down to the ground that is coming
Speaker 1: from the top, or they can sort of willy nilly
Speaker 1: as much as possible in their own states and their
Speaker 1: own counties, so on and so forth. The reason why
Speaker 1: that's important is because many of our followers and our
Speaker 1: listeners are people who are very, very concerned about whether
Speaker 1: we should be participating in the voting process. We don't
Speaker 1: see much that is happening for black people especially, and
Speaker 1: radical change leaps and bounds and jumps for it. We
Speaker 1: are tired of hearing. It takes time. It's been taking
Speaker 1: over four hundreds some even say five hundred years, and
Speaker 1: people want to see real progress swiftly happen in this nation.
Speaker 1: With that being said, UM and while we we know
Speaker 1: that from a federal level we have to fight like
Speaker 1: hell to get drips, what you also know is that
Speaker 1: the local government, the mid term elections determined much of
Speaker 1: what happens in your state. It also, of course determined
Speaker 1: some of the federal UH, federal legislation as well, because
Speaker 1: you have senators running for office around the country. Shout
Speaker 1: out to our boy Gary Chambers who is in Louisiana
Speaker 1: right now running for Senate UH. And there are others
Speaker 1: around the country that are also running for those positions.
Speaker 1: So those positions are very high level federal positions, UM.
Speaker 1: And they of course have some local standing. But you
Speaker 1: have other local elected positions on the ballot. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: you have other um what is the word, uh, ballot initiatives,
Speaker 1: so on valot initiatives. These are issues, not people that
Speaker 1: you can need to support or vote down. So in
Speaker 1: different states you have about so for instance, in Florida,
Speaker 1: a ballet initiative was whether or not to restore the
Speaker 1: voting rights of people who were convicted of felonies um
Speaker 1: in that state. And and thankfully the people which we
Speaker 1: were on the ground there with the initiative knocking on doors.
Speaker 1: We knocked on thousands of doors. And thankfully there was
Speaker 1: an initiative past and shout out to all the people,
Speaker 1: all the leaders who were organizing in Florida. Uh, think
Speaker 1: about Desmond need and there are others who were doing
Speaker 1: incredible work in Florida. The and and of course the
Speaker 1: valid initiative passed. So this this is serious stuff. It's
Speaker 1: it's easy to just be like, oh, we don't care
Speaker 1: this and that, but no, this is on your street,
Speaker 1: your block, your community, your schools. Uh, everything that has
Speaker 1: to do with your life is a part of the
Speaker 1: mid term election. And people who know that want to
Speaker 1: suppress your vote and stop you from going because they
Speaker 1: want to be the ones to maintain power and control.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I'm let you speak my
Speaker 1: song because I'm running my mouth. But um I am
Speaker 1: today we have an incredible show of individuals who will
Speaker 1: come and talk to us about a particular issue, and
Speaker 1: I let my song talk about what that issue is. Yep,
Speaker 1: we will be joined by some of my esteem colleagues
Speaker 1: and brothers and people that I just respect to talk
Speaker 1: about the black mail both and it's gonna be very
Speaker 1: critical in this election because what we realize is that
Speaker 1: black men are really divided. You know, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of black men that lean more towards conservative views
Speaker 1: and ideologies. There's certain things that as black men that
Speaker 1: the Liberal party doesn't you know, it just doesn't fit
Speaker 1: with us, you know. So in the majority of the
Speaker 1: things we do, but there are very distinct things that
Speaker 1: I think black men are just against, you know. So
Speaker 1: we'll discuss those things, you know, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: how important it is for us to vote. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of us really don't even want to vote.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Like having conversations with black men
Speaker 1: in our communities, they like, man, vote for what? Like
Speaker 1: vote for who? You know, we voted. We we keep
Speaker 1: haying to vote to God, we keep haying this and that,
Speaker 1: But what what are we getting for our vote? You know?
Speaker 1: And then there's a very intentional you know, there's very
Speaker 1: intentional push from the conservative size not to get black
Speaker 1: men to vote, right, so they completely ignore the things
Speaker 1: that have happened and try to act like nothing has happening. Oh,
Speaker 1: nothing happened. Y'all voted for this, and look we're happen
Speaker 1: nothing happened, Nothing happened, and you know, so it's it's
Speaker 1: very important for us to continue to highlight the things
Speaker 1: that are happening, to say, hey, look this is that
Speaker 1: what happened. And then when things don't happen, let's talk
Speaker 1: about why they're not happening, you know, because they uh,
Speaker 1: you know, intentional, you know, people from the conservatives side
Speaker 1: and white have who have white supremacists mind states who
Speaker 1: are not trying to allow certain lawyers to be passed,
Speaker 1: certain you know, policies to go into effect. So those
Speaker 1: those things aren't really discussed when you're look at the
Speaker 1: media that wants to push this propaganda is just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this president isn't doing anything. This person you voted in,
Speaker 1: you know, every democratic state isn't doing this. And I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't really go party politics, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not nonpartisan. I go with the best what I think
Speaker 1: is the best. But you still can't convince me that
Speaker 1: a party with ninety seven percent of the representatives inside
Speaker 1: of it are all white, that don't come from the
Speaker 1: communities that I come from that don't understand the realities
Speaker 1: that go on in those communities every day are better
Speaker 1: for me than people that I actually have grown in
Speaker 1: this movement with people that I've went in school, that
Speaker 1: I know have the same exact ideologies and understanding what
Speaker 1: goes on in our communities. So there's a there's a
Speaker 1: deeper rooted problem within government, and I think for us,
Speaker 1: government was never really designed for blacks. It just really wasn't.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to completely shift something that was really
Speaker 1: never divided, I mean, designed for us. So we're trying
Speaker 1: to change the culture of the government. We're trying to
Speaker 1: initiate new ways of of um politic operation, We're trying
Speaker 1: to initiate new things into it. And that takes a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, because this government is not gonna just give
Speaker 1: up its power structure. It's not just giving up the
Speaker 1: structure that's built on white supremacy all the time without
Speaker 1: a fight. So that's what we're witnessing. We're we're we're
Speaker 1: witnessing white supremacies last stand, you know, and what they're
Speaker 1: utilize as our own. A lot of times they'll utilize
Speaker 1: people that look like us, you know, but never really
Speaker 1: don't identify with our realities most of the Unfortunately, to
Speaker 1: the black representatives that are in the Republican Party, they
Speaker 1: they're so far removed from what's going on in our communities,
Speaker 1: our everyday lives. You know. They'll tell you they're black,
Speaker 1: and they usually picked the dog skin once to make
Speaker 1: sure the dog skin, you know, and they say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is that Like when I'm looking at Hershey Walker,
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying, and this is why it's very
Speaker 1: dangerous for me, right because Hershew Walker has one or
Speaker 1: two talking points that black men agree with, right, because
Speaker 1: they don't do the research. You know, he's you can
Speaker 1: tell he's not educated, but he goes up there and
Speaker 1: says one or two things that he knows appeals to
Speaker 1: black man. Black men like football, so they know Hershew
Speaker 1: Walker from being a football player. So there's a level
Speaker 1: of identifying with him. But when you look at his
Speaker 1: background understand his reality, it's not the reality of the
Speaker 1: average black men in our communities. So there's this false
Speaker 1: narrative that's being pushed, and they continue to push this.
Speaker 1: Once again, it's not about partisan politics for me, it's
Speaker 1: about understanding the system. It's about understanding the individuals, just
Speaker 1: understanding how the game is being played and understanding actually
Speaker 1: to have actual change, right, you have to go through transformation.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't. You can't think that you're gonna
Speaker 1: continue along the strang same path and look to the
Speaker 1: same people to make changes for you that have never
Speaker 1: really made changes. Most of us say, hey, neither parties
Speaker 1: for us. Okay, we understand that. So in the process
Speaker 1: of us building something different, which I always say, because
Speaker 1: that should be the main thing that we should be doing.
Speaker 1: We should be trying to how do we build a party,
Speaker 1: not just a party, but just a voter collective, a
Speaker 1: collective voter on block with millions of people that we
Speaker 1: sit down and we come up to each you know,
Speaker 1: um participating, everybody who's running for offers and say this
Speaker 1: is what we need as a people. We have these
Speaker 1: conversations before primaries when we're looking to see who is
Speaker 1: going to be you know, the candidate. When we have
Speaker 1: these compisations, we sit down and said, well, these are
Speaker 1: tangible things that we need. Can you provide those things?
Speaker 1: Are you willing to provide? You willing to go on
Speaker 1: the campaign trail and say this is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do, right, and that's what we need to do
Speaker 1: it every candidate. And then as we do that, we
Speaker 1: can shift and we create that power. Then we can say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we want our own party. But we
Speaker 1: can't keep creating third and four parties that only get
Speaker 1: one and two percent of the vote and say and
Speaker 1: just do it as you know, just a vote of
Speaker 1: some moral conscious I don't want to. I'm tired of
Speaker 1: moral victories, right. The moral victories ship is over for me.
Speaker 1: I'm grown, I got kids, they've got kids. I want
Speaker 1: to see tangible change. I want to see things happening
Speaker 1: in real life, in real time. So you know, this
Speaker 1: comes very critical. There's someone would say that that's that
Speaker 1: you said something that's really powerful about doing the same
Speaker 1: thing over and over again. And there are some people
Speaker 1: will say that that's the problem with voting for the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. We are Black women are number one in
Speaker 1: terms of voting block, and black men actually are number two. Um.
Speaker 1: And so we are the absolute power base of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. And I know there is a need, um
Speaker 1: and a need and a desire to move away from
Speaker 1: the party. But again to your point, you know, and
Speaker 1: there are people doing that. We have you know, the
Speaker 1: brother from UM from West Belomy from our Black Party
Speaker 1: working with alongside Puff to create a new party and
Speaker 1: do exactly what you said first of all, start with
Speaker 1: UH you know, supporting candidates, getting people together, aligning on goals,
Speaker 1: and then eventually becoming a party that has its own
Speaker 1: uh own process in general. So we do need that,
Speaker 1: and there are people who are building it, but we've
Speaker 1: attempted to build it in the hasks. This is not
Speaker 1: the first time that people have said we want to
Speaker 1: build a part of political party. But we as a
Speaker 1: people have to decide if we are at the place
Speaker 1: where we're ready to support that party hands down, no confusion,
Speaker 1: We're in. I don't know when we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1: I think what has been done to us in terms
Speaker 1: of the division that exists within our community is strong
Speaker 1: enough that um you know, who knows whether we will
Speaker 1: whether we'll get there anytime soon, but we certainly can
Speaker 1: get better than just throwing our votes away. And I
Speaker 1: think we should start the conversation with our guests today.
Speaker 1: As we said, we've got a great panel of folks
Speaker 1: today that are dealing with UH, the issue of voting
Speaker 1: around the nation in different ways. Um. And each person
Speaker 1: here has a group of sort of their constituents and
Speaker 1: folks that they touch and talk up to on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. That makes this conversation well rounded. UM. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was we were just saying, my son,
Speaker 1: this election situation, this is the part that we talk
Speaker 1: about local elections, local work that also helps to push
Speaker 1: federal legislation, to either block and or support federal legislation.
Speaker 1: So this is the stuff that folks say they care about.
Speaker 1: But yet and still we're not seeing enough people engage.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure there are many reasons. I
Speaker 1: won't state them all, but I don't I would I
Speaker 1: would say from the jump as we start this conversation
Speaker 1: that we understand clearly why so many, particularly of our
Speaker 1: black men feel disenfranchised and are are you know, really
Speaker 1: just sort of trying to figure out what are other
Speaker 1: ways to address their needs and concerns than to rely
Speaker 1: on this political is them. So let me introduce the
Speaker 1: folks who are here with us today. Um. All of
Speaker 1: them are our brothers. Reverend Jamal Bryant, who is from
Speaker 1: the Great Church in Atlanta, Georgia that I preached that
Speaker 1: one day his new birth Missionary Baptist Church. Thanks Jamal,
Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. We have Wisdom Cole
Speaker 1: from the n double A CPS, the Youth and College Director. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we have Mondale Robinson from Black Male Voter Project.
Speaker 1: If you don't know Montdale, you need to get to
Speaker 1: know him, because you know he's on the news telling
Speaker 1: the people some things. I don't heard you saying stuff
Speaker 1: on the news, Mondale that a lot of people are
Speaker 1: afraid to say unbought and unbossed around the blackmail vote.
Speaker 1: Will be joined eventually by Congressman Jamal Bowman. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so I think he will help us to eat round
Speaker 1: out the conversation even more so, whoever wants to start,
Speaker 1: whoever wants to start on me just asked the first question.
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to know what do you
Speaker 1: think is the biggest each of you? What do you
Speaker 1: think is the biggest hurdle for getting black men to vote?
Speaker 1: I'll jump in. Uh. Stacy Abrams is in the fight
Speaker 1: of her life trying to become governor. All of the
Speaker 1: data is coming back. She has failed, like to get
Speaker 1: any real momentum or synergy around black men. Black men
Speaker 1: feel taken for granted and have not been a part
Speaker 1: of of the conversation. And so this last ditch effort
Speaker 1: here in Georgia has been trying to really mobilize black men.
Speaker 1: The last two presidential elections hinged on the backs of
Speaker 1: black women, but this now mid term election I think
Speaker 1: is a really uh in the strength of black mail participation.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we have to meet black men
Speaker 1: where they're at. Part of the work in terms of
Speaker 1: turnout is making sure that we're engaging particularly you know,
Speaker 1: the young black male voters, UM, and the places and
Speaker 1: spaces that they interact in. You know, I'm thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the young black men who are are in college,
Speaker 1: who are into e sports, right, Like, how are we
Speaker 1: connecting with that demographic, that population of young black men. UM.
Speaker 1: How are we making sure that we are messaging appropriately UM.
Speaker 1: Often times I feel like our population may be overlooked UM,
Speaker 1: and I think it's really important that we engage them
Speaker 1: in all aspects, and that means making sure that we're
Speaker 1: willing to go where we need to go the UM.
Speaker 1: I love that question. Bro. First of all, thank you
Speaker 1: all for having me. Let's be clear, UM, black men
Speaker 1: have everybody in the world not to participate in America's politics,
Speaker 1: especially the electoral process. If you consider the fact that
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty two years ago they passed the
Speaker 1: fifteenth Amendment supposedly giving us to write the vote, when
Speaker 1: an actuality, oh they gave us was the right to
Speaker 1: be the game pigs for voter suppression. You ask, what's
Speaker 1: the greatest hurdles keeping black men fro participating as a
Speaker 1: couple of them? Is not one? The first one is poverty.
Speaker 1: Most black men live on the margins. Telling people who
Speaker 1: live on the margins they need to go vote does
Speaker 1: not ring true when they've seen no electoral change in
Speaker 1: their lived experiences. Uh. The second one is uh antipathy
Speaker 1: the world looking black man as if we're apathy, If
Speaker 1: we have a level of apathy or a slaune or
Speaker 1: notus about the election, it's not true. What's actually the
Speaker 1: one on this there's a level of antipathy hate for
Speaker 1: the very transactional nature in which blue politics and politicians
Speaker 1: address us. Let me correct some misnomers. First of all, uh,
Speaker 1: black women are super soldiers as it pertains to our communities,
Speaker 1: and that's a fact. Black men also participating the electoral
Speaker 1: process and record numbers in their last two present elections.
Speaker 1: The world won't tell us that because what the world
Speaker 1: is doing, they're based in their voting off of exit
Speaker 1: posts to say that Donald Trump got more of the
Speaker 1: black man vote. But in actuality, if you look at
Speaker 1: the real data, like the the real data in these states,
Speaker 1: if you look at uh the voter turnout for primaries
Speaker 1: partisan primaries, you saw it massive increase in a specific
Speaker 1: demographic a black man um not age, age didn't separate us.
Speaker 1: It was old black man who had been what the
Speaker 1: world called sporadic voters came out in increasing numbers. So
Speaker 1: considered this no demographic in Georgia in twenty had a
Speaker 1: huge increase or a larger increase than black men that
Speaker 1: have set out the last five federal election. That means
Speaker 1: these brothers were old enough to vote for Barack Obama
Speaker 1: but did not vote for him in twenty twelve, did
Speaker 1: not vote in twenty fourteen, sixteen, or eighteen. It's about
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty thousand brothers in Georgia that meet that.
Speaker 1: That's nearly half of the brothers that are registered. Of
Speaker 1: that four d and sixty thousand, hundred and twenty four
Speaker 1: participated in the election. So people have this missing number
Speaker 1: based on UH exit poll, which actually started by this
Speaker 1: dumb company called Edmonds UM and they did it wrong
Speaker 1: every year, and scholars have also criticized them. But what
Speaker 1: happens is the world runs with that because it's easy
Speaker 1: narrative to say that black man sitting out with black
Speaker 1: man not voting for Democrats, when when the actuality we
Speaker 1: vote for our community more than anybody except for black women.
Speaker 1: And the same thing is happening right now. So people
Speaker 1: keep saying that, you know, there's there's no excitement around
Speaker 1: candidates for black man, that's the wrong question to ask
Speaker 1: the black man. People did the same thing in twenty
Speaker 1: Are you excited for Joe Biden? Are you excited for
Speaker 1: or um? Uh? Also, I mean I'm sorry, yeah, they
Speaker 1: asked them also to this fectorcycle. If you're asking that
Speaker 1: black men are excited about abrams, if you're asking them
Speaker 1: they're excited about whatnot, you can probably get a hell
Speaker 1: note from black men. And that's just the fact because
Speaker 1: that's the wrong question. Excitement is not equate if you're
Speaker 1: gonna vote or not. Right, So black men are policy
Speaker 1: voters even though the world won't tell us that. So
Speaker 1: what we know is why there may not be no
Speaker 1: excitement for the candidates. Black men are definitely turning out
Speaker 1: in record numbers. We've already we're outperforming um every demographic
Speaker 1: right now with the sporadic that's so called sporadic voters.
Speaker 1: They're not super voters. In Georgia. Right now, black men
Speaker 1: have closed a gap between Black women, which is normally
Speaker 1: a tempera cent participation, yet it's only two percent right now.
Speaker 1: And the voters that we're turning out are our ratic
Speaker 1: voters more than our supervoters, which is a good thing
Speaker 1: because supervoters have not missed an election, so it means
Speaker 1: even if they haven't voted, they're probably still gonna vote.
Speaker 1: And if we're turning out those voters who don't normally
Speaker 1: turn out, we're doing our damn job. M So you
Speaker 1: because I I've heard that it's not just black men,
Speaker 1: but that the numbers in terms of all young people,
Speaker 1: UM and just the black community in general is not
Speaker 1: where it needs to be in order to assure a
Speaker 1: victory for the particular candidates, particularly in Georgia. Would you
Speaker 1: guys agree with that or you know, is that what
Speaker 1: we're saying, and and Monte, I just want to say
Speaker 1: we agree with you and stated before you all came
Speaker 1: on that black women are number one, but black men
Speaker 1: are number two in terms of the power base of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party specifically, uh, and that it is very
Speaker 1: much so disrespectful for us to keep ignoring how much
Speaker 1: black men do participate. However, we know that there is
Speaker 1: a major divide in terms of black men who to
Speaker 1: your point, have decided that they want to make choices
Speaker 1: that are based upon the issues they care about and
Speaker 1: less about candidates or following a particular party. But I
Speaker 1: just to go back to the point is do you
Speaker 1: all feel like the numbers across the country from what
Speaker 1: you're hearing, are down in general or do you think
Speaker 1: that it's just an issue that's in fact in black
Speaker 1: men in this moment. Yeah, from what I'm hearing, um,
Speaker 1: particularly about young people, right like, for young folks, it
Speaker 1: is it is down. And I think what we're hoping
Speaker 1: the season election days, days before election day, folks are
Speaker 1: still turning out. Um. I just left a rally around
Speaker 1: affirmative action. I mean, from there, we are pushing our
Speaker 1: young people to make sure that they turn out. Um,
Speaker 1: and support. But again, I think, you know, when I
Speaker 1: think about young black men, I'm thinking about these issues.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about these policy choices. You know, oftentimes for
Speaker 1: our generation, folks come into our community days before the
Speaker 1: election making promises. But where's the plan, where's the policy?
Speaker 1: What do you do in day one? And I think
Speaker 1: we want to actually see our return on investment, right
Speaker 1: if we're gonna turn out, if we're gonna support you, Uh,
Speaker 1: the work that you actually do is going to change
Speaker 1: our lives. You know, too often we've seen politicians cheat,
Speaker 1: steal um, and lie, you know, week after week, year
Speaker 1: after year, and so I think folks are tired about that.
Speaker 1: I think they want to see people who are actually
Speaker 1: going to change our leave conditions and not just talk
Speaker 1: about it um as a talking point. I would say
Speaker 1: that the morale is down across the board, even across
Speaker 1: the age demographics we had to carry it around. Uh,
Speaker 1: student debt, cancelation and deaths on freeze. You're not seeing
Speaker 1: the Democrats fight aggressively or roll out of plan, and
Speaker 1: you're seeing the Republicans playing and both of them are
Speaker 1: did see we've not heard any real platform around reparations.
Speaker 1: While money is being funnel to the Ukraine. Hbc US
Speaker 1: still incubating on life support. We're seeing no real policy
Speaker 1: around support for our brothers and sisters in Jackson, Mississippi,
Speaker 1: those who were adversely impacted by Hurricane Ian and Florida.
Speaker 1: Let's not even deal with the scab that's been pulled
Speaker 1: on on the pre existent health conditions that were exposed
Speaker 1: in COVID nineteen pandemic. And so people are really dizzy
Speaker 1: and are asking, what's it all for? UH? What differences
Speaker 1: are going to make? And beyond the promises uh to
Speaker 1: by the wisdom's point, what is the policy? What is
Speaker 1: the agenda? And a lot of people are not seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know what happens is, first of all,
Speaker 1: black men are participating UH at at levels that are
Speaker 1: that should be considered astronomical, considered the lack of investment
Speaker 1: in our community, especially this demographic. What what the world
Speaker 1: won't say is it's easier for those with resources, those
Speaker 1: with access. Talking about the parties, the both political parties,
Speaker 1: their auxiliaries, their candidates, UH, if you see the campaigns
Speaker 1: and running they run heavy media heavy campaigns UH eighty
Speaker 1: seven in their budget spent on TV radio and that's
Speaker 1: just not how you're gonna reach black men at all.
Speaker 1: So that failing is that the feeling of brothers to
Speaker 1: turn out. Uh is the fact that candidates invested their
Speaker 1: money wrong, parties invested their money wrong people. People believe
Speaker 1: that get out to vote happens to the four or
Speaker 1: five days before election, and that's TAXI get out the
Speaker 1: vote against January uh to December every year. Uh. Uh
Speaker 1: So if if, if, if you consider, if you consider
Speaker 1: the work that needs to be addressed as pertains to
Speaker 1: lack of trust from black man in the political system,
Speaker 1: thinking used to change that in four days, it is
Speaker 1: absolutely tacky and silly. So I think what happens is
Speaker 1: when people consider the fact that you know, of the
Speaker 1: black men that vote percent of the vote for Democrats.
Speaker 1: So people, so one party is just trying to keep
Speaker 1: us from going out. That's the Republican Party. And then
Speaker 1: the other part of the Democratic Party, uh with relatives
Speaker 1: spend their money on trying to miss their conservatively and
Speaker 1: white cousins to come vote, come back to the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: which is never gonna happen. That demographics sale And I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we never told the truth talking about we
Speaker 1: are people that play politics and the fact that, um,
Speaker 1: they're the number one way to increase a demographics participation
Speaker 1: is to spend resources on them. We have white consultant
Speaker 1: We have a white consultant class that gets more more
Speaker 1: than ninety percent of the money from political expense. Um.
Speaker 1: Even though you know, like you said, the biggest base
Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party, I would say, the only base
Speaker 1: because we're not spit, uh is black voters. Everybody else Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, dance with the Democratic Party, but not majority
Speaker 1: Latin ext brothers and sisters, um and and folks in
Speaker 1: the same as truth for our Asian brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: So uh, And I just want to push back a
Speaker 1: little bit system something he said about black men. Uh,
Speaker 1: there are no black men switching over to Republican parties.
Speaker 1: There's been no increase in black man's participation in Republican
Speaker 1: politics at all. And people keep talking about like this
Speaker 1: is how I know a lot of people sister, um
Speaker 1: and brothers that don't that aren't really engage with the
Speaker 1: majority of black men in this country. They think Republican
Speaker 1: talking points are gonna misinformed black men, as if we
Speaker 1: are living in a silo or if we're not experiencing, uh,
Speaker 1: the eels of American politics. Actually, the real voter suppression
Speaker 1: that should be warned about, or the real misinformation campaigns
Speaker 1: they should be learning about. Are these brothers on YouTube
Speaker 1: saying craziness like flat Earth and all the other stuff
Speaker 1: home tapping out here? Then the brothers that have the
Speaker 1: power to miss brothers some craziness. It ain't these white Republicans.
Speaker 1: So I think people are missing. People are truly missing.
Speaker 1: Everything I've seen I saw, let me sell you something.
Speaker 1: They've They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads.
Speaker 1: I've seen Republicans run three or four eggs on battle rap.
Speaker 1: Battle Wrap is a locked in demographic for a special
Speaker 1: type of black man. And those black men if you
Speaker 1: look at their crossover, if you take their profiles from
Speaker 1: social media and cross over with the voter file, these
Speaker 1: are the brothers who sit out elections. Right, So that
Speaker 1: means that an entire swamp of people aren't being reached,
Speaker 1: and that just isn't true for that demographic. Uh. Like
Speaker 1: I said, if you look at the number of brothers
Speaker 1: who are wretched to the vote, nearly half of them
Speaker 1: have not voted in five consecutive federal elections. It's not
Speaker 1: a critique of black man. It's a critique how we
Speaker 1: play politics in this country. And that's and I think
Speaker 1: we are when we say is it a black man
Speaker 1: thing or is there a different type of voter thing? No,
Speaker 1: it's the way we play politics. It's the it's the actors.
Speaker 1: So nobody would ever, nobody would ever uh condemn a
Speaker 1: person for not drinking Coca cola uh and drinking pepsi. Instead,
Speaker 1: people will criticize the marketing campaigns, and you're not selling
Speaker 1: your product properly. That's why people aren't buying it. The
Speaker 1: same thing is true with candidates. Candidates are products, and
Speaker 1: the party and their consultants aren't doing their job. As
Speaker 1: it pertains to black men when you're running out here
Speaker 1: talking about how much more you're gonna invest in police
Speaker 1: and these guys keep killing us um with our hands
Speaker 1: up or what what on our on our backs? So
Speaker 1: I think what happens is the more you keep talking
Speaker 1: about these Republican life messages, the more you have these
Speaker 1: white consultants who are not connected to our community, the
Speaker 1: less and less you will see people participating in your
Speaker 1: lect to our process. Let's let's let Congressman bowman and
Speaker 1: so you can join and hear what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We're in a good conversation, and because folks don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time, I don't want us to go
Speaker 1: back over the discussion. But what I will say is
Speaker 1: that what we're talking about is the lack of um
Speaker 1: of investment in black men that has created, whether they
Speaker 1: be false narratives and or um voter apathy. Is that
Speaker 1: a word? That a term that I think we can
Speaker 1: use mindale or do you think that's not a term
Speaker 1: that we should use. I think we should step away
Speaker 1: from ampathy altogether. There's no apathy and black men. There's
Speaker 1: no a political black man in America. Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: level of antipathy that exists. But antipathy is different than apathy.
Speaker 1: If I'm na on about something, I don't really care
Speaker 1: what happens. If I hate, keep it away from me.
Speaker 1: And I think people are people are addressed a black
Speaker 1: man as if we're nationalized about the process. Were not.
Speaker 1: We hate it and we hate the way is presented
Speaker 1: to us. What's up moment? Please see you? So what
Speaker 1: I wanted, what I wanted to say right is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I heard what you're saying that you know,
Speaker 1: black men aren't moving to the to the right right.
Speaker 1: And what I've what I've noticed, right, a lot of
Speaker 1: friends that I have, right, they come to me with
Speaker 1: all of these right wing talking points every new And
Speaker 1: these are new people that before they weren't having these
Speaker 1: conversations with me. They weren't telling me that, oh, well
Speaker 1: Trump they like, they're identifying with Trump. They're telling me
Speaker 1: how Trump did all these things. They're coming to me
Speaker 1: with these things every day, and I'm confused, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: where the way are you getting this from? Right, So
Speaker 1: that's one thing I want to say, and then you
Speaker 1: can go on to that. But I want to know,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm starting like I'm I'm actually I'm
Speaker 1: seeing in my personal life, not with the data is saying.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing in my personal life that people that I'm
Speaker 1: connected to, that I'm speaking too daily, that come on
Speaker 1: my post that I know they're not boxed at. People
Speaker 1: that I speak too daily are coming to me and
Speaker 1: there leaning conservative right. So I want to know, what
Speaker 1: are the issues that you believe that that really are
Speaker 1: important for black men? What are the issues that are
Speaker 1: important for black men that people aren't addressing that maybe
Speaker 1: the Conservatives are addressing, or maybe the Democrats aren't addressing,
Speaker 1: but what important for black men? I think first and foremost, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have the conversation. You gotta
Speaker 1: meet people where they are. You gotta go into the
Speaker 1: communities and act like you care first and foremost, So
Speaker 1: before we even get to uh the topics and the
Speaker 1: content and the policy, show people that you care, Show
Speaker 1: people that you're willing to listen and learn and and
Speaker 1: and really engage to understand what the issues are, so
Speaker 1: then you can go work on the policy. One of
Speaker 1: my frustrations with the Democratic Party is we we consistently
Speaker 1: do not do that uh directly and explicitly with with
Speaker 1: black men. UM. So that that's one. Just just start
Speaker 1: the conversation first and foremost. Secondly, UM, from what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing and my own personal experience, we as a party
Speaker 1: and we as a country, we have to one be
Speaker 1: honest about the harm we have committed to black men,
Speaker 1: be honest about the history related to that harm, and
Speaker 1: then be very explicit in doing something about it today. Right.
Speaker 1: So um at us opportunity uh self determination. Uh dealing
Speaker 1: with issues of wealth and the quality, helping black men
Speaker 1: and black the black community to build wealth. UH. Criminal
Speaker 1: justice reform is another UH. And there are many other
Speaker 1: topics as well, fully funding education, affordable housing, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But first and foremost, you know, do the work of
Speaker 1: of engaging black men first, and follebos, we haven't even
Speaker 1: done that to know which direction we need to go
Speaker 1: in terms of topics and policy. If we did that,
Speaker 1: that would go a long way to your point, my
Speaker 1: son around leaning conservative, uh, Republicans if you will, or conservative,
Speaker 1: if I've done a better job of engaging, whether it's
Speaker 1: directly or indirectly, whether it's through proxies like ice Cube
Speaker 1: and and and and Kanye and and and and others,
Speaker 1: or through topics that are important to black man like
Speaker 1: money and wealth and and and and other things, even
Speaker 1: crim no justice reform. I mean Trump did a few
Speaker 1: things related to that, you know during this President sek
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, have a conversation and then we
Speaker 1: go from there. I wanted to just hone in on
Speaker 1: this point, um where you said, Mandela, and you know
Speaker 1: everybody could jump in, um, and my son has touched
Speaker 1: on this idea that people black men, some black men
Speaker 1: are leaning more conservative. I hear you saying that that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily the case, right, But what does it mean
Speaker 1: when there's an uptick in black men voting for Trump?
Speaker 1: Is it a Trump thing or is it a party thing?
Speaker 1: What does it mean when herschel Walker is actually a
Speaker 1: viable possibility in Georgia in this moment? And and to
Speaker 1: your point, you know, I know all of you can
Speaker 1: get in on this part of the conversation that these
Speaker 1: consultants and the poles and the ways in which they,
Speaker 1: you know, do the reporting that is always off, it
Speaker 1: never represents black people properly. But we can see, or
Speaker 1: we can feel with our own eyes and through our
Speaker 1: cell phones and through conversations, that there are more black
Speaker 1: men who are even willing to entertain a possibility of
Speaker 1: a Hershel Walker. And so I'm just I just want
Speaker 1: to be corrected and or educated, that's a better way
Speaker 1: of discussive saying it. Educated on what is it that
Speaker 1: we're hearing, Why are we hearing this, and how does
Speaker 1: it not mean that there are more black men who
Speaker 1: are voting towards the moving towards the Republican Party or
Speaker 1: Republican candidates. First of all, uh, it's capped that more
Speaker 1: black men vote for Donald Trump. It didn't happen in
Speaker 1: Donald Trump did not get a large a portion of
Speaker 1: black anticipation. Again, I'm that that one quote, a single quote,
Speaker 1: was in the New York Times a couple of days
Speaker 1: after the election, came from Edmonds Edmonds or class wrong
Speaker 1: exit poler who who has flowed instruments every year? And
Speaker 1: it's not just me. You can look at the many many,
Speaker 1: uh you know, research one, study, schools that I tell
Speaker 1: you that is trash. Um. What I will say, though,
Speaker 1: is a better way to judge people turn out is
Speaker 1: how they if they participate in the primary and then
Speaker 1: also the general election. You can see it, especially for
Speaker 1: talking about people who set out elections five and six
Speaker 1: elections cycles, like a lot of the black men did.
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker is not within one per cent of UM
Speaker 1: well not right now? That is cap that as a poll.
Speaker 1: That is not what the voted data is saying. I
Speaker 1: don't care about polls. I care about data because data
Speaker 1: is real. And if you look at who's participated at
Speaker 1: what rates they participated, and who they are and how
Speaker 1: they are registered, it's no way that people are saying.
Speaker 1: And also this idea that black men are more conservative
Speaker 1: now is a false narrative. I'm telling what we know
Speaker 1: is we know these people in our lives that are conservatives,
Speaker 1: and then not that we are outspoken. That's cool with us.
Speaker 1: We should understand that there always be Republicans, always full,
Speaker 1: especially at the national level. Somewhere between eight and twelve
Speaker 1: percent with black voters. Donald Trump performed right in that
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't outperform anybody. He actually did worse
Speaker 1: to mcgrumney did with black men. So people don't it's
Speaker 1: it's a harder work to find out data, the real data,
Speaker 1: and the exit polls are just snapshots that people run
Speaker 1: with because they get put in the papers real quick. Um.
Speaker 1: I did a long along, a three hour interview with
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone proven to them that that that pope was wrong,
Speaker 1: and they didn't had they had no other source than
Speaker 1: adments from that for that faith pole or that exit pole.
Speaker 1: So I would say, first of all, uh, the idea
Speaker 1: that uh, black men are more conservative now than they've
Speaker 1: ever been doesn't ring truth how we're voted and the
Speaker 1: issues we care about. If that was true, then how
Speaker 1: could we say that black men supported uh progressive issues
Speaker 1: like a women's right to choose more than anybody, not
Speaker 1: excluding anybody right this year when they pulled demographics, black
Speaker 1: men outperformed black women on that support. I want to
Speaker 1: get you, Jamal into the conversation, what are you here?
Speaker 1: Are we on the right track of what we're saying.
Speaker 1: You are in the church, you know talking to black
Speaker 1: men that um, you know, we know our brothers from
Speaker 1: the church. So giving your perspective from from from that viewpoint,
Speaker 1: I said, first of all, I'm sending in the cash
Speaker 1: after Mondale because just helped the miseducation of the Negro.
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing that he just said. And so
Speaker 1: I feel better because I've been stressed out. UH. You know,
Speaker 1: the Bible says that people die from a lack of knowledge. UH.
Speaker 1: And everything that we've been mobilizing around Mandale has been
Speaker 1: around the poles, not around the data. UH. They have
Speaker 1: been to make a one million people have participated in
Speaker 1: early poling uh in the last week. UH. And it
Speaker 1: has been a great number of people from our community
Speaker 1: who has done it. But Mandale, the polls are not
Speaker 1: giving the reflective of our turn out. UH. And so
Speaker 1: the street politicians y'all are helping me today. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a convert Mandale. I'm joining your church, I'm leaving mine.
Speaker 1: So no, no, this is this is helpful for us
Speaker 1: to really recalibrate our level of thinking because what it
Speaker 1: also does, wisdom, is it puts in the minds of
Speaker 1: our people. What's it all for if we're just following
Speaker 1: the poems? Uh? That there is no point that is
Speaker 1: not gonna change, It's not gonna shift. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: want to enlarge that conversation to Maka as a Georgian
Speaker 1: that is not just around the war knock for let's
Speaker 1: not I forget Stacy. Uh. They're trying to put her
Speaker 1: behind in double digits again Mandale in the polls, but
Speaker 1: not in the data. Uh. So I'm just encarriage and inspired.
Speaker 1: Uh that Mandale, you go ahead to send me that
Speaker 1: data because I've been preaching the row fact I'm preaching
Speaker 1: from the dead seased roles. I need you to get
Speaker 1: me to do testament so I can I can try
Speaker 1: to fix this. But no, this is great. And I
Speaker 1: think I think a key word that you and Maka
Speaker 1: is entertained, right like people are entertaining these actors, right,
Speaker 1: entertain these people who are coming with this conservati rhetoric
Speaker 1: and talking about black men in this way through social media. Right,
Speaker 1: every you know shade room um social posted and talked
Speaker 1: about these people, and people are being more awared to
Speaker 1: them and and giving them that time of day um,
Speaker 1: even though the data may not show that. Right. I
Speaker 1: remember when I first moved to d C in eighteen,
Speaker 1: there's all these conversations about black conservatives and black progressives
Speaker 1: and this growing amount. Right again, look at the data,
Speaker 1: and that's not true. And so the fact that folks
Speaker 1: are entertaining it, I think we need to start shifting
Speaker 1: dynamics in which we uplift those people and therese platforms,
Speaker 1: right because if there's real people in our community who
Speaker 1: are doing the work that we want to make sure
Speaker 1: are elected, those are the narratives, those are the points.
Speaker 1: Those are the people that we need to make sure
Speaker 1: are in those places and spaces and are being uplifted.
Speaker 1: So that just one thing real quick, you can So Ever,
Speaker 1: since I've gotten into Congress, I've become more aware of
Speaker 1: how powerful corporate media is, how powerful corporate polls are,
Speaker 1: and how much propaganda is peddled through media and through
Speaker 1: polling to get us to think a certain way, even
Speaker 1: though that may not be accurate. Like literally, I'm living
Speaker 1: in the matrix right now because I'll do an interview
Speaker 1: on a particular topic with a particular publication and they'll
Speaker 1: take what they want to take to craft a narrative
Speaker 1: they want to craft. I got nothing to do or
Speaker 1: very little to do with what I said. So that
Speaker 1: polling piece is critical because this is money, and money
Speaker 1: is gonna dictate things in a way that's gonna lead
Speaker 1: to corporate media, corporate polling getting more money. So I
Speaker 1: just want to make that quick point that that's that's
Speaker 1: very important. I want to go to your point, wisdom.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question after I state this.
Speaker 1: I remember during the Trump election, and I remember I
Speaker 1: was with Tamika. We had just we was in DC
Speaker 1: and we had to get on the train, right and
Speaker 1: all these polls has said that Hillary was gonna in.
Speaker 1: We we got on the train and the polls told
Speaker 1: us that she wants This was the polls that the
Speaker 1: pole said it was. It didn't even make sense. It
Speaker 1: was a landslide. And within two hours he was on
Speaker 1: the train and everything that these poles said didn't happen.
Speaker 1: At that point, I realized that the poland whatever the
Speaker 1: polls was, it wasn't it wasn't a reliable source. You know.
Speaker 1: So I want to ask you was as a as
Speaker 1: a young man, do you believe that because like you said,
Speaker 1: like we said, we're getting polls, we're getting social media,
Speaker 1: We're get in the field from social media. How it
Speaker 1: seems like it's an uptick and conservative value, especially black
Speaker 1: men talken with um conservative talken points. Is social media
Speaker 1: really do we how much do we give, you know,
Speaker 1: how much props do we give? How much reality do
Speaker 1: we think that social media presents to us? You know,
Speaker 1: social media is a powerful tool, right, you know, throughout
Speaker 1: the pandemic, we had to use it really to to
Speaker 1: reach voters, right, to contact people. But something that I
Speaker 1: whole hard to believe is like life ston't equal votes, right.
Speaker 1: You know, folks can be can be shared a million times, Uh,
Speaker 1: folks can shared around. There can be you know, sound bites, clips,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's about turnout, right, It's about that data. Right, It's
Speaker 1: about making sure that real people in our community are
Speaker 1: reached with that message, and so I think it has
Speaker 1: an opportunity to help influence, right, And I think how
Speaker 1: we use it, it's gonna be very important. Um. I
Speaker 1: think for the younger generation, right, it's our primary source
Speaker 1: of communication. I wake up with the morning. I'm not
Speaker 1: opening up the newspaper. I'm looking on Instagram, I'm looking
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm hearing what's moving in the media today. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think the way in which we can change that,
Speaker 1: right is making sure that folks have the right information,
Speaker 1: like how are we connecting with the culture brands, with
Speaker 1: these sources, with these opportunities, to make sure that they
Speaker 1: know how influential they have to actually change the course
Speaker 1: of election if they're actually mobilizing people to the polls,
Speaker 1: m anybody else on social media? And what you think, like,
Speaker 1: what's the reality? And I would just jump in and
Speaker 1: say that the I think the internet is extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1: I think it's extremely dangerous. It's actually become very toxic. Yes,
Speaker 1: it can be used, Yes, we all use it. Yes
Speaker 1: we have found ways to make it work in different situations.
Speaker 1: But I do agree that there is a sentiment that
Speaker 1: is brewing online. And by the way, let me just
Speaker 1: insert here that a few weeks ago, a New York
Speaker 1: Times article came out showing how the Russian bots were
Speaker 1: involved in the Women's March, and it was used, whoever
Speaker 1: you know and and don't don't get me to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Congressman Bonus A Boweman is on the is,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be careful of what I say. But
Speaker 1: I don't know who paid the Russians or who work
Speaker 1: with them to do what they did. But during the
Speaker 1: Women's March, the bots that attacked us, and particularly lend
Speaker 1: us our soul, who you all know, uh is our partner,
Speaker 1: they really focused on her. But by extension, the entire
Speaker 1: Women's March was receiving basically hate tweets all day stories
Speaker 1: from different sites, and they were working so hard to
Speaker 1: create dissension among the ranks within the the within the
Speaker 1: Women's March, but of course to turn other people off.
Speaker 1: And I believe that those bots still exist, and they
Speaker 1: have the hotep if you will, uh profiles. Some of
Speaker 1: them are real individuals, but a lot of them have
Speaker 1: the profiles, and they are screwing or spewing excuse me,
Speaker 1: certain things and putting things in the atmosphere that is
Speaker 1: making it very difficult for people to know what's real
Speaker 1: and what's fake online. I don't know others are feeling that.
Speaker 1: I noticed that you, Jamal have pulled back from being
Speaker 1: online as much as you used to be. Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a gift and a curse, um, and
Speaker 1: it's become more of a curse and in many ways
Speaker 1: than a gift. UM. Yeah, you know, it's a great
Speaker 1: way to share information. It's a great way to communicate
Speaker 1: different initiatives that you're a part of. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: it's great for that. It's it's a it's a media
Speaker 1: platform to share press releases, tweets about particular issues, bring attention,
Speaker 1: attention to issues is great for that. And and as
Speaker 1: we have all seen, shortly thereafter the toxicity comes in,
Speaker 1: the bods get involved and many of these bodies have
Speaker 1: been programmed to have an agenda. And this is why,
Speaker 1: you know, as we talk about until freedom and defeating
Speaker 1: white supremacy and black revolution, we got this step i
Speaker 1: AI game up, our artificial intelligence game up as we
Speaker 1: as we pushed back against that, because we need our
Speaker 1: own box as well, Uh, telling the narratives that that
Speaker 1: that we want to tell um on social media. So
Speaker 1: you know, to your point, I'm still on it, but
Speaker 1: you know, I try to avoid the toxicity and the
Speaker 1: poison as much as I can. But one last point, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think this was said earlier. You know,
Speaker 1: the way celebrities are pushed on social media is really
Speaker 1: problematic as well, because we we hold celebrities in such
Speaker 1: high regard um, you know, as a society, when they
Speaker 1: say something that gets this proportionate attention and then and
Speaker 1: then it sucks all the oxygen out of the room
Speaker 1: and we can't have real conversations around about real topics,
Speaker 1: and social media is a hard place to do that. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I think that we've got to, I really put our
Speaker 1: own messaging out. I don't think that the answer is
Speaker 1: for us to go radio side. Is that we've got
Speaker 1: a great package, but we've got to learn how to
Speaker 1: amplify it. Uh. And we can't leave all of the
Speaker 1: language uh to hate speech and white supremacists and bodies
Speaker 1: without us touting it. A lot of people are not
Speaker 1: participated because of what it is that they don't know
Speaker 1: a lot of people will decry congressmen that this administration
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything for our community, and that's not true,
Speaker 1: but we've done a bad job of promoting it. And
Speaker 1: so I think that we've got to go beyond to
Speaker 1: make a post and matching for genres. I think that
Speaker 1: we got the post. We got to post this stuff
Speaker 1: that's significant, uh, and that's meaningful for our people to
Speaker 1: know what's taken place. Well to your point, brother, just
Speaker 1: real quick, you're right about that. I would also and
Speaker 1: I've been very critical of the Democratic Party about this.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party hasn't done enough to communicate with black man,
Speaker 1: with black people, with disengaged communities, not just since I've
Speaker 1: been in office, but prior to that. You know, one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why when I ran the party didn't
Speaker 1: think I had a shot to win is because the
Speaker 1: party has been unplugged from real people for a very
Speaker 1: long time. And what do we do. We went door
Speaker 1: to door in our community, knocking on doors, being President
Speaker 1: Canvas and being every way I met Mondale. You know,
Speaker 1: we're down with Bill Cobbs shout, but we was all
Speaker 1: over the place, right in the streets, and that's how
Speaker 1: we were able to win. And going back to the
Speaker 1: polling piece, you know, polling had us Uh, you know
Speaker 1: pretty much neck and neck. We won that race by
Speaker 1: sixteen points. Um. So it's the party has to The
Speaker 1: party has all the resources it needs to do what
Speaker 1: it wants to do. It just chooses to prioritize white,
Speaker 1: independent slash modern voters and get them to swing to
Speaker 1: us without talking to us at all, meaning black man
Speaker 1: and and in fact, let's go ahead. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, it's it's probably inappropriate to discount
Speaker 1: the importance to social media. So I appreciate everybody like
Speaker 1: telling the truth that we can back away from that
Speaker 1: technology because it's honestly how most most black men, black
Speaker 1: men actual use YouTube like the rest of the world
Speaker 1: used to Google. Right, So um, the fact that YouTube
Speaker 1: is the wild wild West as pertains to um. How
Speaker 1: how campaigns are even spening resources towards black man is
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. But beyond that, I would also say, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's there's I think trying to
Speaker 1: entertain the black vote out is always gonna um wind
Speaker 1: up as a field opportunity for the Democratic Party. What
Speaker 1: what we do know though, is, um, there's there's there's
Speaker 1: there's a wonderful road map on how to win elections.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party just was not to use it every
Speaker 1: election cycle. They still do the same thing over and
Speaker 1: over and over with the same consultants, over and over.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm getting emails right now from James Carl
Speaker 1: James Conference should not be sending an email to any
Speaker 1: black Democrats. He is racist. The fact that they can't
Speaker 1: even segment out their list. First of all, he's outdated,
Speaker 1: he's Bill Clinton politics. Majority of black man are triggered
Speaker 1: by Bill Clinton's name just because of some of his
Speaker 1: policies and what he did in his office. And people
Speaker 1: can't even read the room to know that much about
Speaker 1: their base. But they're still sending out information. And the
Speaker 1: reason this is I wanted to say, because I ain't
Speaker 1: speak on of them about the polls. The reason to
Speaker 1: pose are so wrong is they're talking to this so
Speaker 1: called likely voter um. Black men don't never fall into
Speaker 1: their category. Very few of us, those who went to college,
Speaker 1: those who are part of you know, uh fraternities, or
Speaker 1: or those who are super voters. That's a very small
Speaker 1: slither of brothers who participated. And while while you are
Speaker 1: talking about that, that that too you were talking about. Brother.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give this information. Right now, there's
Speaker 1: a hundred and nine black men that has already voted
Speaker 1: in a gym a hundred nineties two thousand. It's only
Speaker 1: one one million black men in Georgia, right, so if
Speaker 1: I remove the suppressions, that one is probably gonna jump
Speaker 1: to somewhere over two hundred thousand. That means we're performing.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're out performing white men. Nobody's nobody's
Speaker 1: saying that black men I outperforming white men and they
Speaker 1: got older resources and none of the hurdles. Um, we've
Speaker 1: closed that gap from tem percent to black women. And
Speaker 1: that's how you win. That's how you win. So and
Speaker 1: I think even and even more, I gotta say this again.
Speaker 1: And the reason is because the people who are turning
Speaker 1: out are not so called likely voters. This is why
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. This is how we win elections. This
Speaker 1: is how we won two So I mean and how
Speaker 1: we do win two I I also think, Um, and
Speaker 1: this is the this is the last one I said
Speaker 1: about this. Uh. There's tools you can use, like free tools,
Speaker 1: uh to see what's going on an election outside of posed,
Speaker 1: and social media is one of them. Facebook, for instance,
Speaker 1: will allow you they don't know what. I guess they
Speaker 1: figured it out yet. You can take the voter file
Speaker 1: from the state, segmented by race, and take that whole
Speaker 1: voter file and put it on Facebook. Is in a
Speaker 1: message to uh for or two dollars, you could reach
Speaker 1: all of those people, target all those people. And we're
Speaker 1: not which not, we're not doing that. We have white
Speaker 1: consultants because you know, creating messaging that sounds like you're
Speaker 1: talking against us instead of for us. And you're never
Speaker 1: gonna make brothers see what your administration did as long
Speaker 1: as you're out here talking how great the economy is
Speaker 1: when we know we're double double our white counterpart as
Speaker 1: obtains unemployment, and that's the number one issue for black men. Um,
Speaker 1: we're never gonna make black men see your issues when
Speaker 1: you're talking about uh college, you know, college education being
Speaker 1: the pathway to freedom or or or and it don't
Speaker 1: work that black man. But college ain't got us free. Uh.
Speaker 1: So you took away trades and we need our trades back,
Speaker 1: including coding, and you're not talking about that the black man.
Speaker 1: These other issues, qualified immunity, when my most black men
Speaker 1: and walk around talking about qualified immunity, The damn show
Speaker 1: was saying, it's screwed up that cock can kill a
Speaker 1: black man and nothing happens to them or and that
Speaker 1: to me is it comes a qualified immunity that people
Speaker 1: don't even know how to introduce because they think you
Speaker 1: talked to black man with cameras a white person in
Speaker 1: a barbershop, and in actuality, any black man has been
Speaker 1: in a barbershop. Know that once somebody is not a
Speaker 1: black man walking the room, the whole damn conversation change. Uh,
Speaker 1: it could be a black woman, it could be anybody.
Speaker 1: You're walking a barber shop and you're not a black man,
Speaker 1: entire conversationships, so you're not even getting the real conversation.
Speaker 1: This is why the poles be so bad. I think
Speaker 1: about this. You they need you. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: I'm dealing what it makes sense because I told them,
Speaker 1: I told them right now, it's what black men are thinking.
Speaker 1: You know. The reality like even with social media, like
Speaker 1: I tell to me, it's me. They hate shows for
Speaker 1: me that she hates for me to get on social
Speaker 1: media because you know I'm not. I'm gonna say whatever
Speaker 1: I feel. And I feel like the reality is there
Speaker 1: has to be a counting narrative, right, if we if
Speaker 1: we are allowing people to dominate one of the major
Speaker 1: sources of information for our people, right when we go
Speaker 1: to YouTube, like you said, these wildy they're saying everything
Speaker 1: lies they said, nobody is challenging that we don't have
Speaker 1: five or six people that are telling them the truth. Right,
Speaker 1: So at least and when they and they know that
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell the truth. So if we're if we're
Speaker 1: not saying, hey, this is a lie, right, and these
Speaker 1: people are left to continue to flourish on these platforms
Speaker 1: with lies and continue to go, then what all they
Speaker 1: have is this is like it's like, really, there's only
Speaker 1: one candidate, right, If there's no counter narrative, then the
Speaker 1: only thing they have to believe is truth is the
Speaker 1: lies that they're being told. So I think the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party has to do a very a better job at
Speaker 1: if you got Kanye over here saying this, then you
Speaker 1: gotta get somebody of equal value that you're appealing to
Speaker 1: what they want to really not just come and say, yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna vote a die like nobody were tired. We've
Speaker 1: been voting. We're kind of hearing like the voting ship.
Speaker 1: It was cool at one point, was a good slogan,
Speaker 1: but now we need If you don't vote, When you
Speaker 1: vote right here, your kids gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: in these schools you vote, your kid's gonna have opportunities
Speaker 1: that you didn't have. You vote, your kids are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to don't have to go through the same
Speaker 1: struggles that you went through. That Black men are interested
Speaker 1: to making sure that our kids aren't struggling the same
Speaker 1: way we did. Everything I do is to make sure
Speaker 1: that my son's don't have to work as hard as
Speaker 1: I did to to to be able to just survive.
Speaker 1: I want them to be able to live comfortably and
Speaker 1: make decisions not based off desperation, not based on poverty,
Speaker 1: not saying damn, I gotta risk my freedom. I gotta
Speaker 1: do this. I have to do this even though I
Speaker 1: don't want to, even though my heart is into this,
Speaker 1: even though I'm skilled at this. But I need to
Speaker 1: get this regular job and go away from my passion
Speaker 1: because I can't survive. That's what black men are interested in.
Speaker 1: And if they don't get up, if the party doesn't
Speaker 1: focus around those things the average everyday black man is
Speaker 1: dealing with, then they're gonna lose, and they have to
Speaker 1: use these platforms. They gotta get on these platforms and
Speaker 1: use the voice because it's people like us that want
Speaker 1: to be able. I can't go up there and tell
Speaker 1: nobody voted Doe. I'm just not saying that. No, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna jump in real quick. So excellent
Speaker 1: points all the way around. Um So, so I'm in
Speaker 1: Congress right now, the first black man in US history
Speaker 1: to hold this seat. One of the reasons why I'm
Speaker 1: here is because black men and black people came out
Speaker 1: and voted for me. And I could have did much
Speaker 1: better with black men if I was more strategic and
Speaker 1: getting them out during my first race. But the fact
Speaker 1: that I even represent came forth as an actual black man,
Speaker 1: more black man came out to vote. Right. So I'm
Speaker 1: here now. Right. Because I'm here, new and different conversations
Speaker 1: are happening and different questions are being asked. So we
Speaker 1: have a White House liaison that we communicate with consistently.
Speaker 1: I'm in direct contact with the president chief of staff,
Speaker 1: and I have told him, like when mom Dale had
Speaker 1: that great article I think it's in the Washington Post
Speaker 1: about the White House is failing on black men. I
Speaker 1: called the Chief of President, Chief of Saving and was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you see this article, you gotta do about it. You
Speaker 1: need to call him in when you have me blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And they like, I man, I I like
Speaker 1: not really listening, like okay whatever. The Democrat probably had
Speaker 1: a retreat and they brought in like some consultants to
Speaker 1: teach us, to train us on messaging. Know, they brought
Speaker 1: in they brought in the people who who did those
Speaker 1: Dove commercials about love your body and and and they
Speaker 1: and they put us through this whole thing on doing
Speaker 1: this for messaging, dev comversson, love your bady whatever. They've
Speaker 1: never had a conversation with me who won the historic
Speaker 1: collection about like messaging. They never have a conversation with
Speaker 1: nobody in the squad all one historic elections Sunday. Know,
Speaker 1: they never brought us in and said, Yo, what what
Speaker 1: did y'all do teach us? Never ever did that at all.
Speaker 1: On the other side, one of during one of my
Speaker 1: first weeks in Congress, seven members of the European Union,
Speaker 1: seven ambassadors from the European Union set me up with
Speaker 1: a lunch at the Ambassador's them in d C, Germany.
Speaker 1: Was there, Italy was there. All of these people were there.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to meet the person they do beat
Speaker 1: Elliott Ingle because they couldn't believe that it happened. So
Speaker 1: I got Europe wanting to talk to me, and half
Speaker 1: conversation me to be like, Yo, how did you be?
Speaker 1: Who is this person? Be Elliot Ingle? But the the
Speaker 1: party here didn't do that right, So the part of
Speaker 1: the makers the party has failed historically and continues to
Speaker 1: But the fact that now that I'm here, my Dala
Speaker 1: is involved in all that we can continue to push
Speaker 1: the party to have the conversations we need to have
Speaker 1: because it's not just about voting, it's about accountability after
Speaker 1: the vote. And you know, me communicating with y'all, my
Speaker 1: sign to me could consistently let y'all know what's going
Speaker 1: on in Washington, let you know about the bill asking
Speaker 1: you to calls b That's just is power, Like we're
Speaker 1: power building right now and it's not obviously it's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen overnight. So that's why I like I wanted
Speaker 1: to come on to to really help. I know it's
Speaker 1: hard because you know, we've been ignored and marginalized for
Speaker 1: far too long but we we are beginning the process
Speaker 1: of building the power we need to build and having
Speaker 1: conversation like this is a big part of that. What
Speaker 1: is the messaging? You know, Massan just went through a
Speaker 1: whole thing. I'm not gonna say voter to die, but
Speaker 1: all of you are out there talking to your base.
Speaker 1: I know this week, this on on Sunday, Rev. Bryant
Speaker 1: or Jamal Briant, he got my phone blowing up with
Speaker 1: people because he's the one line master and from he said,
Speaker 1: we don't need a walker, we need a runner, and
Speaker 1: the whole thing, everybody's blowing up saying, you know, Jamal
Speaker 1: has hit the people with a good line in terms
Speaker 1: of one election. But I know, Jamal Bryant that you
Speaker 1: have to talk to your members one on one more
Speaker 1: than the one line from the pulpit. You're out here
Speaker 1: trying to encourage people, registering people to vote, being in
Speaker 1: the community. What is the message is them saying? What
Speaker 1: is the message here? You are Mondel sitting in the
Speaker 1: center of getting black men, the black men, the Black
Speaker 1: male Voter project. You gotta you're out here, you're talking
Speaker 1: to our people. What are you saying? And I'd love
Speaker 1: to give the congressman the last word, because you know,
Speaker 1: you got a tough job to come from to be
Speaker 1: a part of a party that you know is not
Speaker 1: handling business properly for our people, but still to try
Speaker 1: to encourage folks to see past that uh and and
Speaker 1: engage in the process. So let's start with Reverend Brunt.
Speaker 1: I've been telling family that the Black Church needs to
Speaker 1: take a page from white evangelicals. White evangelicals promote policy,
Speaker 1: where the Black Church historically has promoted personality, and we
Speaker 1: have failed to talk about what are the issues that
Speaker 1: are driving us to the pole too. What Mondale's point is,
Speaker 1: black men educate themselves on what is our point, but
Speaker 1: the Black Church has not done. So we have pushed
Speaker 1: people who are chasmatic, who are articulate, who are marketable,
Speaker 1: but don't hold any accountability around what is the policy agenda?
Speaker 1: And so our responsibility at this tick of the watch
Speaker 1: is to raise what are the policies in front of
Speaker 1: the people. If you stick with what our policies are,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna forget the personality. And I think that
Speaker 1: what it is that we have to do is really
Speaker 1: gras up what are our policies or what my son
Speaker 1: Roland Martin always says, what's the ask? What are we
Speaker 1: looking for to come on the other side of this
Speaker 1: mid term election other than we need your vote in
Speaker 1: the midterms so we can get it in the presidential
Speaker 1: primaries in sixto months. So I think that part of
Speaker 1: our process at this ticket of watch is really underscoring
Speaker 1: what are the policies I wouldn't save very quick great
Speaker 1: the till movie on last night about Emma Teal uh
Speaker 1: to see a young Megan ever talk about while this
Speaker 1: is good uh for one chase, one chase is not
Speaker 1: going to change it. We need a completely different overhaul
Speaker 1: of the system. And I think that that's part of
Speaker 1: our responsibility. What wisdom YEA when when I'm out there
Speaker 1: in the streets with the young people and talking with
Speaker 1: them and engaging with them, I really urge them to
Speaker 1: recognize that we are the ones that we've been waiting for. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we know that power can see nothing out
Speaker 1: of demand. And the more and more we continue to
Speaker 1: urge the folks who are in power to actually uh
Speaker 1: speak these issues and actually create real change and implement policy,
Speaker 1: you know, the more that we'll see it. You Know,
Speaker 1: I recognize the fact that we are a great mobilizing body, UM.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that we're still working
Speaker 1: on in our generation. But thinking about gen Z, thinking
Speaker 1: about millennials, we are the largest living block in America, UM,
Speaker 1: And I think the way that we are really see
Speaker 1: that powers by mobilizing our folks, mobilizing our peers, and
Speaker 1: thinking about our spheres of influence, right, how we can
Speaker 1: reach people who are in our communities. You know, the
Speaker 1: power of five, the power were reaching into places and
Speaker 1: spaces that aren't being touched. Because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, the folks who are here on this call
Speaker 1: are the ones who are doing the work right, the
Speaker 1: folks who are consistently engaging day after day. And what
Speaker 1: I love seeing right now is the the young black
Speaker 1: men who are running for Congress. Right. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got Maxwell Frost out of Florida, You've got Mandela Barns
Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin. Right. I've never been so engaged with
Speaker 1: Wisconsin in my life until this moment in time to
Speaker 1: see people who look like me, who come from places
Speaker 1: like me. I get texts from Exwell Frost every single
Speaker 1: day talking about voting, talking about voting and so making
Speaker 1: sure that we are seeing more candidates who come from
Speaker 1: our community, who are going to be accountable, who have plans,
Speaker 1: who care about those issues, because everything that we've advocated for,
Speaker 1: even in just this year is under attack. Right we
Speaker 1: talked about student Day cancelation. The people who don't want
Speaker 1: to happen are the ones who are voting, the ones
Speaker 1: who are pushing. And so the more we actually engage
Speaker 1: with that, the more we actually see things through, the
Speaker 1: more we actually keep pushing at the door, we'll see
Speaker 1: a better future. I mean, we don't have a script
Speaker 1: as it pertains to what we tell brothers to go
Speaker 1: vote because and I think the lesson of that is,
Speaker 1: I mean you to meet with my son y'all. We
Speaker 1: we were blessed to be together in and Georgia at
Speaker 1: my event on election night, and it was a hood
Speaker 1: as event. I mean, we have a good as political
Speaker 1: program that is absolutely working. I mean we we I
Speaker 1: think I think the best thing to do is make
Speaker 1: sure and in the conversations you're having with voters you're
Speaker 1: not transactional. We're not going to people do it right
Speaker 1: now talking about this is the most important election in
Speaker 1: your life. We step away from those conversations. Um, and
Speaker 1: I think, but we've had nineteen conversations with black men
Speaker 1: in our seventeen states this year, So each one of
Speaker 1: the black men in our state had nineteen conversations from us,
Speaker 1: especially those who are not traditional voters. We spend more
Speaker 1: time and energy on these people. So now or we're
Speaker 1: doing to say, hey, don't forget to go vote. And
Speaker 1: that's all we need to say. Because our work is
Speaker 1: not from the past two month, two days. I work
Speaker 1: has been since January. So these brothers know what it means.
Speaker 1: They know that this election. Uh, they know what it
Speaker 1: means to them. They know what issue is important to them.
Speaker 1: They know what motivates them and what doesn't. You also
Speaker 1: know what's realistic. We also tell brothers all the time,
Speaker 1: voting for somebody, who electing somebody, it's not revolutionary, unelecting
Speaker 1: their ass They don't do, They say, is so election
Speaker 1: revolution doesn't happen in one cycle. Um, it's the power
Speaker 1: to get rid of incumbents. Getting rid of incomments is
Speaker 1: something that don't know only happen Jamal woman defeated incumbent.
Speaker 1: I'm the mayor of my hometown. I defeated incumbent and
Speaker 1: I think the way that works is if you stay
Speaker 1: off TV and stay in front of people throughout the year,
Speaker 1: then you have the right to ask that person to
Speaker 1: go vote um and not use these dumb as white taxis.
Speaker 1: They don't do nothing for communities. Mm hmm. Con and
Speaker 1: you got the last words. Absolutely, So we're not gonna
Speaker 1: defeat white supremacy in four hundred years of oppression and
Speaker 1: one election cycle. We have to be consistently engaged and
Speaker 1: build doing real power, building black power over the course
Speaker 1: of the rest of our lives. So this is the
Speaker 1: fight for the rest of our lives, and this every day.
Speaker 1: So you know, for me, when I got into Congress
Speaker 1: and I saw all these lobbies coming at me, right,
Speaker 1: the pro Israel lobby, the fossil fuel lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby,
Speaker 1: police unions, military industrial cobbis. All these lobbies bombarm me
Speaker 1: with calls and letters and they want to meet and
Speaker 1: they want to give me money so I could do
Speaker 1: what they want, and obviously I don't respond to them.
Speaker 1: We have to build that kind of power in Congress,
Speaker 1: in every state house, in every county, every miss municipality
Speaker 1: across the country, and it's grassroots up and it's power building.
Speaker 1: So the message and the mission is Black power. And
Speaker 1: the more I learned, and the more we all learn
Speaker 1: and share with each other, we are building that power
Speaker 1: for the long term. So yes, absolutely vote this cycle.
Speaker 1: But if you vote and go to sleep, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: It's about remaining engaged. Uh, to hold that's accountable. Like
Speaker 1: that's the that's the bottom line. It's accountability. And if
Speaker 1: you hold your members a Congress and like the fish accountable, uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they need to do for you.
Speaker 1: And if they don't you vote, they vote their asses
Speaker 1: out office. I'm so happy to have this conversation, man,
Speaker 1: I want to say think all of you. You know,
Speaker 1: what you said is very important as a black man,
Speaker 1: you know who who actually just wants the best for
Speaker 1: his people. It's hard, you know, it's hard having these conversations.
Speaker 1: It's hard talking to damage individuals dealing with trauma who
Speaker 1: have not received anything from this government, like you said,
Speaker 1: mon does. It's the audacity that America things that we
Speaker 1: they we owe them. I would vote, you know, and
Speaker 1: and the reality is that we really don't owe them anything,
Speaker 1: owe our stuff. And I hope people are paying attention
Speaker 1: I hope that people listen to this conversation and understand
Speaker 1: that black men have things that they want and things
Speaker 1: that they need, and ways we need to be addressed
Speaker 1: and respected, you know, and just telling us whatever you think,
Speaker 1: or just disregarding us and going after other demographics, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna work for us. So, you know, I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you, guys and appreciate you for being
Speaker 1: able to say the things I'll be thinking. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to say it as good as y'all be
Speaker 1: saying it, but I'll be thinking the same things you'll
Speaker 1: be saying. You say it perfectly fine, And I'm glad
Speaker 1: that my brothers came on today as well to talk.
Speaker 1: You know, we focus a lot on black women, but
Speaker 1: we thought leading into this last few days before the election,
Speaker 1: that we need to focus on the black man, because
Speaker 1: without a strong black man in our communities, our communities
Speaker 1: are hopeless. I believe that my father, he is the
Speaker 1: king of our home and our work, he whole. He
Speaker 1: is the man. Everybody knows stand is the man. But
Speaker 1: one thing about it is that that man understands his
Speaker 1: power is also in building his woman and making sure
Speaker 1: that my mother is happy. So That's what it's all
Speaker 1: about for me, is bringing us together and making sure
Speaker 1: that no one in our community is left behind. I
Speaker 1: love y'all so very much. Rever Jamal Bryant, thank you,
Speaker 1: Mandell Robinson, thank you, Wisdom Cold, and thank you Congressman
Speaker 1: Jamal Balming, thank you, Peacia. Love y'all talk soon. That's
Speaker 1: how that was great. It was great. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: been it needs we need like fifty more of them.
Speaker 1: You know. I hope that somebody pays attention to this,
Speaker 1: you know. I hope that you know, that people start
Speaker 1: focusing on what's real. You know, like you said, internet
Speaker 1: is dangerous. It's dangerous for two things. It's dangerous is
Speaker 1: because if you give the wrong person power on the Internet,
Speaker 1: they can miss inform at such a quick rate. Right,
Speaker 1: you can miss inform somebody so fast million the people
Speaker 1: you've got a hundred million followers and twenty million and
Speaker 1: thirty million followers, and you put out some information as false, right,
Speaker 1: they take it as is really what it is, you know,
Speaker 1: and it moves They moved so fast, and people to
Speaker 1: grab onto it. Man. So I hope that the truth
Speaker 1: tellers understand that we have to utilize our voices the
Speaker 1: same way that the people who are intentionally spreading misinformation
Speaker 1: and lives on. And we got to combat these lives
Speaker 1: because they're harmful. You know, we're in very critical times
Speaker 1: in our lives, not just in in this election, but
Speaker 1: in every election, every time that we have an election,
Speaker 1: every time that we exalt someone to a level of power.
Speaker 1: You know, it's critical because when you have the ears
Speaker 1: of the masters and people start to believe you and
Speaker 1: the hearts, it's hard to pull away. Man. We've seen
Speaker 1: how the power you know, in their own hands is misleading.
Speaker 1: We talk about the cold leaders. Cold leaders have had followers, man,
Speaker 1: we talk are people like Hitler. When you get when
Speaker 1: you get the ears of people and you start to
Speaker 1: to utilize it the wrong way, you see how it
Speaker 1: can go. You know, how it can really destroyed. So
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that somebody's listening. Man, I hope you're
Speaker 1: paying attention. You know, this was a this was an
Speaker 1: emergency UM show. It's emergent conversation, So we went away
Speaker 1: from our normal format. You know, I ain't even going
Speaker 1: into my I don't get it, none of that. We're
Speaker 1: not doing that. I just don't get how people think
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be involved in any process that affects
Speaker 1: our lives, whether you like it or not. You need
Speaker 1: to find out the policies that you need that is
Speaker 1: going to directly affect you in your community and your lives,
Speaker 1: and then find out those you know, the candidates that
Speaker 1: afford those policies, and get out there and do what
Speaker 1: you need to do. So with that said, man, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna always be right to make a Demalori is
Speaker 1: not gonna always be wrong, but we were both always
Speaker 1: and I mean always be authentic. Make sure you go
Speaker 1: out and vote. Vote for your interests, vote for your kids,
Speaker 1: vote for your wife, with for your husband, vote for
Speaker 1: everybody that's right. And November eight is the last day
Speaker 1: of vote, last places. Early voting is happening. Now find
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