WEBVTT - Black Men Vote, but have the candidates earned it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the Family's your girl to make a d Mallory

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<v Speaker 1>and it's your boy, my son the General, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>your host of street politicians, the place where the streets

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<v Speaker 1>and politics. My son Lennon, Grandma t me that is

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<v Speaker 1>you are what's your name again, gee Bob? That's so

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<v Speaker 1>cool though. We got that kind of legacy building, legacy, legacy, legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>my little young my young king man. I ain't seen

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<v Speaker 1>him in a while. I'm actually going to participate in

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<v Speaker 1>caretaking in just a few hours once we finished the

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<v Speaker 1>show today. Duties today. I'm gonna do my grandma duties today. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wanted to just also make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are listening in that you all know something

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<v Speaker 1>that I posted about this weekend. And sometimes we're taping

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<v Speaker 1>days in advance, so when you all are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, you're listening to things that we've taked some

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<v Speaker 1>time ago, maybe three days or two days. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>really quick because you know, life happens and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss very very important topics. But there are times

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<v Speaker 1>when we're taping our show in advance, um, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and around the schedule of guests and what happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>so in those instances sometimes you all are hearing us

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<v Speaker 1>speaking on issues and it might not necessarily fit with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other things that's happening at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're working on that, but just wanted to folks

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<v Speaker 1>to know it. I wrote it on my page, my song.

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<v Speaker 1>You reposted it. But UM, I think it's important also

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<v Speaker 1>that we stated on this show so that you all

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<v Speaker 1>will be aware of how things happen. And um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we do our best to stay as current as possible

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<v Speaker 1>with the news, uh, and so you know, keep sending

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<v Speaker 1>those topics, as my song would say, keep us up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed on all the things that's happening, and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you hit up at Street Politicians Pod where we're

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<v Speaker 1>checking the d m s and we're learning more about issues, people, things,

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<v Speaker 1>the goings on of the world. So that's that on that, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it is election season. There's actually early voting

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<v Speaker 1>happening in this moment. November eighth is the day, the

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<v Speaker 1>final day to vote. UM, I think that, Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been so much concern around a number of issues just

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<v Speaker 1>in the media. There's all types of things happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the media. There's controversy there's uh, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of just drama, a lot of pain, a lot of laughter,

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<v Speaker 1>just all types of things going on on social media

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<v Speaker 1>and in the media, and as a result of that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>things can get drowned out. The mid term elections is

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<v Speaker 1>something that does not get the type of attention that

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<v Speaker 1>it needs in general, and they are, I believe, very

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<v Speaker 1>specific reasons for why that happens, one of them being

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<v Speaker 1>that there are actual forces that do not want us

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the mid terms because the men terms

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<v Speaker 1>put people in power who are able to either push

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<v Speaker 1>for or against the president's agenda, the federal government's agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have the ability from a local perspective to

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<v Speaker 1>either push things down to the ground that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the top, or they can sort of willy nilly

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible in their own states and their

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<v Speaker 1>own counties, so on and so forth. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>that's important is because many of our followers and our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners are people who are very, very concerned about whether

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<v Speaker 1>we should be participating in the voting process. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>see much that is happening for black people especially, and

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<v Speaker 1>radical change leaps and bounds and jumps for it. We

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<v Speaker 1>are tired of hearing. It takes time. It's been taking

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<v Speaker 1>over four hundreds some even say five hundred years, and

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<v Speaker 1>people want to see real progress swiftly happen in this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, UM and while we we know

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<v Speaker 1>that from a federal level we have to fight like

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<v Speaker 1>hell to get drips, what you also know is that

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<v Speaker 1>the local government, the mid term elections determined much of

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in your state. It also, of course determined

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<v Speaker 1>some of the federal UH, federal legislation as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>you have senators running for office around the country. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to our boy Gary Chambers who is in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>right now running for Senate UH. And there are others

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<v Speaker 1>around the country that are also running for those positions.

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<v Speaker 1>So those positions are very high level federal positions, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And they of course have some local standing. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have other local elected positions on the ballot. Not to mention,

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<v Speaker 1>you have other um what is the word, uh, ballot initiatives,

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<v Speaker 1>so on valot initiatives. These are issues, not people that

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<v Speaker 1>you can need to support or vote down. So in

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<v Speaker 1>different states you have about so for instance, in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>a ballet initiative was whether or not to restore the

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<v Speaker 1>voting rights of people who were convicted of felonies um

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<v Speaker 1>in that state. And and thankfully the people which we

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<v Speaker 1>were on the ground there with the initiative knocking on doors.

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<v Speaker 1>We knocked on thousands of doors. And thankfully there was

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<v Speaker 1>an initiative past and shout out to all the people,

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<v Speaker 1>all the leaders who were organizing in Florida. Uh, think

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<v Speaker 1>about Desmond need and there are others who were doing

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<v Speaker 1>incredible work in Florida. The and and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>valid initiative passed. So this this is serious stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to just be like, oh, we don't care

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, but no, this is on your street,

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<v Speaker 1>your block, your community, your schools. Uh, everything that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your life is a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>mid term election. And people who know that want to

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<v Speaker 1>suppress your vote and stop you from going because they

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the ones to maintain power and control.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, I'm let you speak my

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<v Speaker 1>song because I'm running my mouth. But um I am

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<v Speaker 1>today we have an incredible show of individuals who will

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<v Speaker 1>come and talk to us about a particular issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>I let my song talk about what that issue is. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be joined by some of my esteem colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>and brothers and people that I just respect to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the black mail both and it's gonna be very

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<v Speaker 1>critical in this election because what we realize is that

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<v Speaker 1>black men are really divided. You know, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of black men that lean more towards conservative views

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<v Speaker 1>and ideologies. There's certain things that as black men that

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal party doesn't you know, it just doesn't fit

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<v Speaker 1>with us, you know. So in the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>things we do, but there are very distinct things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think black men are just against, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss those things, you know, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how important it is for us to vote. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us really don't even want to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just being honest. Like having conversations with black men

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<v Speaker 1>in our communities, they like, man, vote for what? Like

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<v Speaker 1>vote for who? You know, we voted. We we keep

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<v Speaker 1>haying to vote to God, we keep haying this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>But what what are we getting for our vote? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a very intentional you know, there's very

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<v Speaker 1>intentional push from the conservative size not to get black

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<v Speaker 1>men to vote, right, so they completely ignore the things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened and try to act like nothing has happening. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happened. Y'all voted for this, and look we're happen

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happened, Nothing happened, and you know, so it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very important for us to continue to highlight the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening, to say, hey, look this is that

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. And then when things don't happen, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about why they're not happening, you know, because they uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, intentional, you know, people from the conservatives side

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<v Speaker 1>and white have who have white supremacists mind states who

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<v Speaker 1>are not trying to allow certain lawyers to be passed,

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<v Speaker 1>certain you know, policies to go into effect. So those

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<v Speaker 1>those things aren't really discussed when you're look at the

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<v Speaker 1>media that wants to push this propaganda is just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this president isn't doing anything. This person you voted in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every democratic state isn't doing this. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't really go party politics, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not nonpartisan. I go with the best what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is the best. But you still can't convince me that

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<v Speaker 1>a party with ninety seven percent of the representatives inside

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<v Speaker 1>of it are all white, that don't come from the

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<v Speaker 1>communities that I come from that don't understand the realities

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<v Speaker 1>that go on in those communities every day are better

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<v Speaker 1>for me than people that I actually have grown in

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<v Speaker 1>this movement with people that I've went in school, that

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<v Speaker 1>I know have the same exact ideologies and understanding what

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<v Speaker 1>goes on in our communities. So there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper rooted problem within government, and I think for us,

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<v Speaker 1>government was never really designed for blacks. It just really wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're trying to completely shift something that was really

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<v Speaker 1>never divided, I mean, designed for us. So we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to change the culture of the government. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>initiate new ways of of um politic operation, We're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to initiate new things into it. And that takes a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because this government is not gonna just give

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<v Speaker 1>up its power structure. It's not just giving up the

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<v Speaker 1>structure that's built on white supremacy all the time without

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<v Speaker 1>a fight. So that's what we're witnessing. We're we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>witnessing white supremacies last stand, you know, and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>utilize as our own. A lot of times they'll utilize

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<v Speaker 1>people that look like us, you know, but never really

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<v Speaker 1>don't identify with our realities most of the Unfortunately, to

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<v Speaker 1>the black representatives that are in the Republican Party, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're so far removed from what's going on in our communities,

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<v Speaker 1>our everyday lives. You know. They'll tell you they're black,

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<v Speaker 1>and they usually picked the dog skin once to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure the dog skin, you know, and they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is that Like when I'm looking at Hershey Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just saying, and this is why it's very

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous for me, right because Hershew Walker has one or

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<v Speaker 1>two talking points that black men agree with, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do the research. You know, he's you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell he's not educated, but he goes up there and

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<v Speaker 1>says one or two things that he knows appeals to

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<v Speaker 1>black man. Black men like football, so they know Hershew

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<v Speaker 1>Walker from being a football player. So there's a level

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<v Speaker 1>of identifying with him. But when you look at his

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<v Speaker 1>background understand his reality, it's not the reality of the

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<v Speaker 1>average black men in our communities. So there's this false

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<v Speaker 1>narrative that's being pushed, and they continue to push this.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, it's not about partisan politics for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about understanding the system. It's about understanding the individuals, just

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<v Speaker 1>understanding how the game is being played and understanding actually

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<v Speaker 1>to have actual change, right, you have to go through transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't. You can't think that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>continue along the strang same path and look to the

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<v Speaker 1>same people to make changes for you that have never

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<v Speaker 1>really made changes. Most of us say, hey, neither parties

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Okay, we understand that. So in the process

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<v Speaker 1>of us building something different, which I always say, because

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<v Speaker 1>that should be the main thing that we should be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be trying to how do we build a party,

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<v Speaker 1>not just a party, but just a voter collective, a

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<v Speaker 1>collective voter on block with millions of people that we

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and we come up to each you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um participating, everybody who's running for offers and say this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we need as a people. We have these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations before primaries when we're looking to see who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, the candidate. When we have

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<v Speaker 1>these compisations, we sit down and said, well, these are

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<v Speaker 1>tangible things that we need. Can you provide those things?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to provide? You willing to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign trail and say this is what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, right, and that's what we need to do

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<v Speaker 1>it every candidate. And then as we do that, we

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<v Speaker 1>can shift and we create that power. Then we can say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we want our own party. But we

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<v Speaker 1>can't keep creating third and four parties that only get

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<v Speaker 1>one and two percent of the vote and say and

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<v Speaker 1>just do it as you know, just a vote of

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<v Speaker 1>some moral conscious I don't want to. I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 1>moral victories, right. The moral victories ship is over for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grown, I got kids, they've got kids. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see tangible change. I want to see things happening

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, in real time. So you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>comes very critical. There's someone would say that that's that

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<v Speaker 1>you said something that's really powerful about doing the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing over and over again. And there are some people

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<v Speaker 1>will say that that's the problem with voting for the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. We are Black women are number one in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of voting block, and black men actually are number two. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we are the absolute power base of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. And I know there is a need, um

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<v Speaker 1>and a need and a desire to move away from

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<v Speaker 1>the party. But again to your point, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are people doing that. We have you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>brother from UM from West Belomy from our Black Party

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<v Speaker 1>working with alongside Puff to create a new party and

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<v Speaker 1>do exactly what you said first of all, start with

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<v Speaker 1>UH you know, supporting candidates, getting people together, aligning on goals,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually becoming a party that has its own

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<v Speaker 1>uh own process in general. So we do need that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are people who are building it, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to build it in the hasks. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that people have said we want to

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<v Speaker 1>build a part of political party. But we as a

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<v Speaker 1>people have to decide if we are at the place

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<v Speaker 1>where we're ready to support that party hands down, no confusion,

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<v Speaker 1>We're in. I don't know when we're gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what has been done to us in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the division that exists within our community is strong

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<v Speaker 1>enough that um you know, who knows whether we will

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<v Speaker 1>whether we'll get there anytime soon, but we certainly can

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<v Speaker 1>get better than just throwing our votes away. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should start the conversation with our guests today.

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<v Speaker 1>As we said, we've got a great panel of folks

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<v Speaker 1>today that are dealing with UH, the issue of voting

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<v Speaker 1>around the nation in different ways. Um. And each person

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<v Speaker 1>here has a group of sort of their constituents and

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<v Speaker 1>folks that they touch and talk up to on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis. That makes this conversation well rounded. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was we were just saying, my son,

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<v Speaker 1>this election situation, this is the part that we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about local elections, local work that also helps to push

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<v Speaker 1>federal legislation, to either block and or support federal legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the stuff that folks say they care about.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet and still we're not seeing enough people engage.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm sure there are many reasons. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't state them all, but I don't I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would say from the jump as we start this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that we understand clearly why so many, particularly of our

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<v Speaker 1>black men feel disenfranchised and are are you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of trying to figure out what are other

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<v Speaker 1>ways to address their needs and concerns than to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on this political is them. So let me introduce the

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are here with us today. Um. All of

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<v Speaker 1>them are our brothers. Reverend Jamal Bryant, who is from

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Church in Atlanta, Georgia that I preached that

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<v Speaker 1>one day his new birth Missionary Baptist Church. Thanks Jamal,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being with us. We have Wisdom Cole

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<v Speaker 1>from the n double A CPS, the Youth and College Director. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Mondale Robinson from Black Male Voter Project.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know Montdale, you need to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know him, because you know he's on the news telling

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<v Speaker 1>the people some things. I don't heard you saying stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the news, Mondale that a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to say unbought and unbossed around the blackmail vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be joined eventually by Congressman Jamal Bowman. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think he will help us to eat round

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<v Speaker 1>out the conversation even more so, whoever wants to start,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wants to start on me just asked the first question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just want to know what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the biggest each of you? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the biggest hurdle for getting black men to vote?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll jump in. Uh. Stacy Abrams is in the fight

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<v Speaker 1>of her life trying to become governor. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>data is coming back. She has failed, like to get

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<v Speaker 1>any real momentum or synergy around black men. Black men

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<v Speaker 1>feel taken for granted and have not been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of of the conversation. And so this last ditch effort

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<v Speaker 1>here in Georgia has been trying to really mobilize black men.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two presidential elections hinged on the backs of

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<v Speaker 1>black women, but this now mid term election I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a really uh in the strength of black mail participation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we have to meet black men

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<v Speaker 1>where they're at. Part of the work in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>turnout is making sure that we're engaging particularly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the young black male voters, UM, and the places and

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<v Speaker 1>spaces that they interact in. You know, I'm thinking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the young black men who are are in college,

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<v Speaker 1>who are into e sports, right, Like, how are we

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<v Speaker 1>connecting with that demographic, that population of young black men. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>How are we making sure that we are messaging appropriately UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Often times I feel like our population may be overlooked UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's really important that we engage them

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<v Speaker 1>in all aspects, and that means making sure that we're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go where we need to go the UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that question. Bro. First of all, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>all for having me. Let's be clear, UM, black men

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<v Speaker 1>have everybody in the world not to participate in America's politics,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the electoral process. If you consider the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty two years ago they passed the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth Amendment supposedly giving us to write the vote, when

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<v Speaker 1>an actuality, oh they gave us was the right to

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<v Speaker 1>be the game pigs for voter suppression. You ask, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest hurdles keeping black men fro participating as a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them? Is not one? The first one is poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>Most black men live on the margins. Telling people who

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<v Speaker 1>live on the margins they need to go vote does

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<v Speaker 1>not ring true when they've seen no electoral change in

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<v Speaker 1>their lived experiences. Uh. The second one is uh antipathy

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<v Speaker 1>the world looking black man as if we're apathy, If

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<v Speaker 1>we have a level of apathy or a slaune or

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<v Speaker 1>notus about the election, it's not true. What's actually the

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<v Speaker 1>one on this there's a level of antipathy hate for

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<v Speaker 1>the very transactional nature in which blue politics and politicians

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<v Speaker 1>address us. Let me correct some misnomers. First of all, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>black women are super soldiers as it pertains to our communities,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a fact. Black men also participating the electoral

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<v Speaker 1>process and record numbers in their last two present elections.

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<v Speaker 1>The world won't tell us that because what the world

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, they're based in their voting off of exit

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<v Speaker 1>posts to say that Donald Trump got more of the

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<v Speaker 1>black man vote. But in actuality, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the real data, like the the real data in these states,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at uh the voter turnout for primaries

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<v Speaker 1>partisan primaries, you saw it massive increase in a specific

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<v Speaker 1>demographic a black man um not age, age didn't separate us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was old black man who had been what the

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<v Speaker 1>world called sporadic voters came out in increasing numbers. So

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<v Speaker 1>considered this no demographic in Georgia in twenty had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge increase or a larger increase than black men that

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<v Speaker 1>have set out the last five federal election. That means

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<v Speaker 1>these brothers were old enough to vote for Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>but did not vote for him in twenty twelve, did

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<v Speaker 1>not vote in twenty fourteen, sixteen, or eighteen. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and sixty thousand brothers in Georgia that meet that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nearly half of the brothers that are registered. Of

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<v Speaker 1>that four d and sixty thousand, hundred and twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>participated in the election. So people have this missing number

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<v Speaker 1>based on UH exit poll, which actually started by this

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<v Speaker 1>dumb company called Edmonds UM and they did it wrong

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<v Speaker 1>every year, and scholars have also criticized them. But what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is the world runs with that because it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>narrative to say that black man sitting out with black

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<v Speaker 1>man not voting for Democrats, when when the actuality we

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<v Speaker 1>vote for our community more than anybody except for black women.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same thing is happening right now. So people

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying that, you know, there's there's no excitement around

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<v Speaker 1>candidates for black man, that's the wrong question to ask

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<v Speaker 1>the black man. People did the same thing in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Are you excited for Joe Biden? Are you excited for

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<v Speaker 1>or um? Uh? Also, I mean I'm sorry, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>asked them also to this fectorcycle. If you're asking that

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<v Speaker 1>black men are excited about abrams, if you're asking them

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<v Speaker 1>they're excited about whatnot, you can probably get a hell

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<v Speaker 1>note from black men. And that's just the fact because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the wrong question. Excitement is not equate if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna vote or not. Right, So black men are policy

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<v Speaker 1>voters even though the world won't tell us that. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we know is why there may not be no

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<v Speaker 1>excitement for the candidates. Black men are definitely turning out

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<v Speaker 1>in record numbers. We've already we're outperforming um every demographic

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<v Speaker 1>right now with the sporadic that's so called sporadic voters.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not super voters. In Georgia. Right now, black men

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<v Speaker 1>have closed a gap between Black women, which is normally

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<v Speaker 1>a tempera cent participation, yet it's only two percent right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the voters that we're turning out are our ratic

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<v Speaker 1>voters more than our supervoters, which is a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>because supervoters have not missed an election, so it means

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<v Speaker 1>even if they haven't voted, they're probably still gonna vote.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we're turning out those voters who don't normally

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<v Speaker 1>turn out, we're doing our damn job. M So you

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<v Speaker 1>because I I've heard that it's not just black men,

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<v Speaker 1>but that the numbers in terms of all young people,

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<v Speaker 1>UM and just the black community in general is not

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<v Speaker 1>where it needs to be in order to assure a

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<v Speaker 1>victory for the particular candidates, particularly in Georgia. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>guys agree with that or you know, is that what

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying, and and Monte, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>we agree with you and stated before you all came

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<v Speaker 1>on that black women are number one, but black men

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<v Speaker 1>are number two in terms of the power base of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party specifically, uh, and that it is very

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<v Speaker 1>much so disrespectful for us to keep ignoring how much

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<v Speaker 1>black men do participate. However, we know that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a major divide in terms of black men who to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, have decided that they want to make choices

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<v Speaker 1>that are based upon the issues they care about and

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<v Speaker 1>less about candidates or following a particular party. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just to go back to the point is do you

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<v Speaker 1>all feel like the numbers across the country from what

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearing, are down in general or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just an issue that's in fact in black

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<v Speaker 1>men in this moment. Yeah, from what I'm hearing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly about young people, right like, for young folks, it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is down. And I think what we're hoping

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<v Speaker 1>the season election days, days before election day, folks are

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<v Speaker 1>still turning out. Um. I just left a rally around

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<v Speaker 1>affirmative action. I mean, from there, we are pushing our

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<v Speaker 1>young people to make sure that they turn out. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and support. But again, I think, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about young black men, I'm thinking about these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about these policy choices. You know, oftentimes for

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<v Speaker 1>our generation, folks come into our community days before the

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<v Speaker 1>election making promises. But where's the plan, where's the policy?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do in day one? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>we want to actually see our return on investment, right

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<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna turn out, if we're gonna support you, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the work that you actually do is going to change

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. You know, too often we've seen politicians cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>steal um, and lie, you know, week after week, year

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<v Speaker 1>after year, and so I think folks are tired about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they want to see people who are actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to change our leave conditions and not just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it um as a talking point. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that the morale is down across the board, even across

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<v Speaker 1>the age demographics we had to carry it around. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>student debt, cancelation and deaths on freeze. You're not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats fight aggressively or roll out of plan, and

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing the Republicans playing and both of them are

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>did see we've not heard any real platform around reparations.

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>While money is being funnel to the Ukraine. Hbc US

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<v Speaker 1>still incubating on life support. We're seeing no real policy

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<v Speaker 1>around support for our brothers and sisters in Jackson, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>those who were adversely impacted by Hurricane Ian and Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not even deal with the scab that's been pulled

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<v Speaker 1>on on the pre existent health conditions that were exposed

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<v Speaker 1>in COVID nineteen pandemic. And so people are really dizzy

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<v Speaker 1>and are asking, what's it all for? UH? What differences

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>are going to make? And beyond the promises uh to

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<v Speaker 1>by the wisdom's point, what is the policy? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda? And a lot of people are not seen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Um, you know what happens is, first of all,

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>black men are participating UH at at levels that are

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that should be considered astronomical, considered the lack of investment

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>in our community, especially this demographic. What what the world

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>won't say is it's easier for those with resources, those

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>with access. Talking about the parties, the both political parties,

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>their auxiliaries, their candidates, UH, if you see the campaigns

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and running they run heavy media heavy campaigns UH eighty

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>seven in their budget spent on TV radio and that's

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>just not how you're gonna reach black men at all.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So that failing is that the feeling of brothers to

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>turn out. Uh is the fact that candidates invested their

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>money wrong, parties invested their money wrong people. People believe

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that get out to vote happens to the four or

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>five days before election, and that's TAXI get out the

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>vote against January uh to December every year. Uh. Uh

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So if if, if, if you consider, if you consider

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the work that needs to be addressed as pertains to

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>lack of trust from black man in the political system,

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking used to change that in four days, it is

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>absolutely tacky and silly. So I think what happens is

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>when people consider the fact that you know, of the

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>black men that vote percent of the vote for Democrats.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So people, so one party is just trying to keep

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.959
<v Speaker 1>us from going out. That's the Republican Party. And then

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the other part of the Democratic Party, uh with relatives

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>spend their money on trying to miss their conservatively and

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>white cousins to come vote, come back to the Democratic Party,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>which is never gonna happen. That demographics sale And I think, um,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, we never told the truth talking about we

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>are people that play politics and the fact that, um,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they're the number one way to increase a demographics participation

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>is to spend resources on them. We have white consultant

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>We have a white consultant class that gets more more

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>than ninety percent of the money from political expense. Um.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Even though you know, like you said, the biggest base

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>for the Democratic Party, I would say, the only base

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>because we're not spit, uh is black voters. Everybody else Uh,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, dance with the Democratic Party, but not majority

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Latin ext brothers and sisters, um and and folks in

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the same as truth for our Asian brothers and sisters.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So uh, And I just want to push back a

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit system something he said about black men. Uh,

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>there are no black men switching over to Republican parties.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>There's been no increase in black man's participation in Republican

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>politics at all. And people keep talking about like this

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>is how I know a lot of people sister, um

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and brothers that don't that aren't really engage with the

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.719
<v Speaker 1>majority of black men in this country. They think Republican

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>talking points are gonna misinformed black men, as if we

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>are living in a silo or if we're not experiencing, uh,

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the eels of American politics. Actually, the real voter suppression

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that should be warned about, or the real misinformation campaigns

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>they should be learning about. Are these brothers on YouTube

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>saying craziness like flat Earth and all the other stuff

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>home tapping out here? Then the brothers that have the

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>power to miss brothers some craziness. It ain't these white Republicans.

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think people are missing. People are truly missing.

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything I've seen I saw, let me sell you something.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>They've They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads.

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I've seen Republicans run three or four eggs on battle rap.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Battle Wrap is a locked in demographic for a special

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>type of black man. And those black men if you

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>look at their crossover, if you take their profiles from

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>social media and cross over with the voter file, these

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>are the brothers who sit out elections. Right, So that

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>means that an entire swamp of people aren't being reached,

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and that just isn't true for that demographic. Uh. Like

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, if you look at the number of brothers

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>who are wretched to the vote, nearly half of them

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>have not voted in five consecutive federal elections. It's not

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a critique of black man. It's a critique how we

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>play politics in this country. And that's and I think

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>we are when we say is it a black man

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>thing or is there a different type of voter thing? No,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the way we play politics. It's the it's the actors.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>So nobody would ever, nobody would ever uh condemn a

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>person for not drinking Coca cola uh and drinking pepsi. Instead,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>people will criticize the marketing campaigns, and you're not selling

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>your product properly. That's why people aren't buying it. The

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>same thing is true with candidates. Candidates are products, and

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the party and their consultants aren't doing their job. As

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it pertains to black men when you're running out here

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about how much more you're gonna invest in police

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and these guys keep killing us um with our hands

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>up or what what on our on our backs? So

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I think what happens is the more you keep talking

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>about these Republican life messages, the more you have these

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>white consultants who are not connected to our community, the

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>less and less you will see people participating in your

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>lect to our process. Let's let's let Congressman bowman and

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>so you can join and hear what we're talking about.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>We're in a good conversation, and because folks don't have

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time, I don't want us to go

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>back over the discussion. But what I will say is

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that what we're talking about is the lack of um

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:55.959
<v Speaker 1>of investment in black men that has created, whether they

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>be false narratives and or um voter apathy. Is that

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a word? That a term that I think we can

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>use mindale or do you think that's not a term

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that we should use. I think we should step away

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>from ampathy altogether. There's no apathy and black men. There's

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>no a political black man in America. Uh, there's a

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>level of antipathy that exists. But antipathy is different than apathy.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>If I'm na on about something, I don't really care

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>what happens. If I hate, keep it away from me.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think people are people are addressed a black

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>man as if we're nationalized about the process. Were not.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>We hate it and we hate the way is presented

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to us. What's up moment? Please see you? So what

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted, what I wanted to say right is like,

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I heard what you're saying that you know,

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>black men aren't moving to the to the right right.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And what I've what I've noticed, right, a lot of

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>friends that I have, right, they come to me with

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>all of these right wing talking points every new And

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>these are new people that before they weren't having these

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations with me. They weren't telling me that, oh, well

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump they like, they're identifying with Trump. They're telling me

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>how Trump did all these things. They're coming to me

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>with these things every day, and I'm confused, and I'm like, well,

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>where the way are you getting this from? Right, So

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's one thing I want to say, and then you

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 1>can go on to that. But I want to know,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I'm starting like I'm I'm actually I'm

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing in my personal life, not with the data is saying.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing in my personal life that people that I'm

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>connected to, that I'm speaking too daily, that come on

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>my post that I know they're not boxed at. People

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that I speak too daily are coming to me and

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there leaning conservative right. So I want to know, what

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>are the issues that you believe that that really are

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 1>important for black men? What are the issues that are

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>important for black men that people aren't addressing that maybe

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the Conservatives are addressing, or maybe the Democrats aren't addressing,

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but what important for black men? I think first and foremost, Uh,

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to have the conversation. You gotta

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>meet people where they are. You gotta go into the

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>communities and act like you care first and foremost, So

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>before we even get to uh the topics and the

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>content and the policy, show people that you care, Show

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>people that you're willing to listen and learn and and

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and really engage to understand what the issues are, so

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>then you can go work on the policy. One of

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>my frustrations with the Democratic Party is we we consistently

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>do not do that uh directly and explicitly with with

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>black men. UM. So that that's one. Just just start

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>the conversation first and foremost. Secondly, UM, from what I'm

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>hearing and my own personal experience, we as a party

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and we as a country, we have to one be

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>honest about the harm we have committed to black men,

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>be honest about the history related to that harm, and

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>then be very explicit in doing something about it today. Right.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So um at us opportunity uh self determination. Uh dealing

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>with issues of wealth and the quality, helping black men

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and black the black community to build wealth. UH. Criminal

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>justice reform is another UH. And there are many other

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>topics as well, fully funding education, affordable housing, etcetera, etcetera.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost, you know, do the work of

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of engaging black men first, and follebos, we haven't even

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>done that to know which direction we need to go

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in terms of topics and policy. If we did that,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that would go a long way to your point, my

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>son around leaning conservative, uh, Republicans if you will, or conservative,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>if I've done a better job of engaging, whether it's

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>directly or indirectly, whether it's through proxies like ice Cube

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and and and and Kanye and and and and others,

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>or through topics that are important to black man like

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>money and wealth and and and and other things, even

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>crim no justice reform. I mean Trump did a few

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>things related to that, you know during this President sek

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So first and foremost, have a conversation and then we

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>go from there. I wanted to just hone in on

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>this point, um where you said, Mandela, and you know

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody could jump in, um, and my son has touched

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>on this idea that people black men, some black men

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>are leaning more conservative. I hear you saying that that's

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the case, right, But what does it mean

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>when there's an uptick in black men voting for Trump?

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it a Trump thing or is it a party thing?

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.479
<v Speaker 1>What does it mean when herschel Walker is actually a

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>viable possibility in Georgia in this moment? And and to

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>your point, you know, I know all of you can

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>get in on this part of the conversation that these

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>consultants and the poles and the ways in which they,

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, do the reporting that is always off, it

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>never represents black people properly. But we can see, or

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>we can feel with our own eyes and through our

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>cell phones and through conversations, that there are more black

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>men who are even willing to entertain a possibility of

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a Hershel Walker. And so I'm just I just want

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to be corrected and or educated, that's a better way

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of discussive saying it. Educated on what is it that

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we're hearing, Why are we hearing this, and how does

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it not mean that there are more black men who

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>are voting towards the moving towards the Republican Party or

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Republican candidates. First of all, uh, it's capped that more

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>black men vote for Donald Trump. It didn't happen in

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump did not get a large a portion of

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 1>black anticipation. Again, I'm that that one quote, a single quote,

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>was in the New York Times a couple of days

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>after the election, came from Edmonds Edmonds or class wrong

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>exit poler who who has flowed instruments every year? And

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not just me. You can look at the many many,

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, research one, study, schools that I tell

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you that is trash. Um. What I will say, though,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>is a better way to judge people turn out is

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>how they if they participate in the primary and then

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>also the general election. You can see it, especially for

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about people who set out elections five and six

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>elections cycles, like a lot of the black men did.

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Herschel Walker is not within one per cent of UM

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 1>well not right now? That is cap that as a poll.

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>That is not what the voted data is saying. I

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>don't care about polls. I care about data because data

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>is real. And if you look at who's participated at

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>what rates they participated, and who they are and how

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>they are registered, it's no way that people are saying.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And also this idea that black men are more conservative

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>now is a false narrative. I'm telling what we know

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is we know these people in our lives that are conservatives,

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and then not that we are outspoken. That's cool with us.

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>We should understand that there always be Republicans, always full,

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>especially at the national level. Somewhere between eight and twelve

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>percent with black voters. Donald Trump performed right in that

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. He didn't outperform anybody. He actually did worse

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to mcgrumney did with black men. So people don't it's

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a harder work to find out data, the real data,

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and the exit polls are just snapshots that people run

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>with because they get put in the papers real quick. Um.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I did a long along, a three hour interview with

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Rolling Stone proven to them that that that pope was wrong,

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't had they had no other source than

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>adments from that for that faith pole or that exit pole.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>So I would say, first of all, uh, the idea

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that uh, black men are more conservative now than they've

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>ever been doesn't ring truth how we're voted and the

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>issues we care about. If that was true, then how

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.720
<v Speaker 1>could we say that black men supported uh progressive issues

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>like a women's right to choose more than anybody, not

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>excluding anybody right this year when they pulled demographics, black

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>men outperformed black women on that support. I want to

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.439
<v Speaker 1>get you, Jamal into the conversation, what are you here?

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Are we on the right track of what we're saying.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>You are in the church, you know talking to black

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>men that um, you know, we know our brothers from

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the church. So giving your perspective from from from that viewpoint,

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, first of all, I'm sending in the cash

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>after Mondale because just helped the miseducation of the Negro.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know nothing that he just said. And so

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel better because I've been stressed out. UH. You know,

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the Bible says that people die from a lack of knowledge. UH.

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And everything that we've been mobilizing around Mandale has been

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>around the poles, not around the data. UH. They have

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>been to make a one million people have participated in

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>early poling uh in the last week. UH. And it

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>has been a great number of people from our community

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>who has done it. But Mandale, the polls are not

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>giving the reflective of our turn out. UH. And so

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the street politicians y'all are helping me today. I'm I'm

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a convert Mandale. I'm joining your church, I'm leaving mine.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So no, no, this is this is helpful for us

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to really recalibrate our level of thinking because what it

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>also does, wisdom, is it puts in the minds of

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>our people. What's it all for if we're just following

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the poems? Uh? That there is no point that is

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>not gonna change, It's not gonna shift. Uh. And I

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>want to enlarge that conversation to Maka as a Georgian

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>that is not just around the war knock for let's

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 1>not I forget Stacy. Uh. They're trying to put her

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>behind in double digits again Mandale in the polls, but

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>not in the data. Uh. So I'm just encarriage and inspired.

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh that Mandale, you go ahead to send me that

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>data because I've been preaching the row fact I'm preaching

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>from the dead seased roles. I need you to get

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>me to do testament so I can I can try

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to fix this. But no, this is great. And I

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>think I think a key word that you and Maka

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>is entertained, right like people are entertaining these actors, right,

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>entertain these people who are coming with this conservati rhetoric

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and talking about black men in this way through social media. Right,

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>every you know shade room um social posted and talked

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>about these people, and people are being more awared to

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>them and and giving them that time of day um,

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>even though the data may not show that. Right. I

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>remember when I first moved to d C in eighteen,

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>there's all these conversations about black conservatives and black progressives

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and this growing amount. Right again, look at the data,

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's not true. And so the fact that folks

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>are entertaining it, I think we need to start shifting

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>dynamics in which we uplift those people and therese platforms,

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>right because if there's real people in our community who

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>are doing the work that we want to make sure

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>are elected, those are the narratives, those are the points.

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Those are the people that we need to make sure

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>are in those places and spaces and are being uplifted.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>So that just one thing real quick, you can So Ever,

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>since I've gotten into Congress, I've become more aware of

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>how powerful corporate media is, how powerful corporate polls are,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and how much propaganda is peddled through media and through

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>polling to get us to think a certain way, even

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>though that may not be accurate. Like literally, I'm living

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in the matrix right now because I'll do an interview

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>on a particular topic with a particular publication and they'll

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>take what they want to take to craft a narrative

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>they want to craft. I got nothing to do or

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>very little to do with what I said. So that

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>polling piece is critical because this is money, and money

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 1>is gonna dictate things in a way that's gonna lead

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to corporate media, corporate polling getting more money. So I

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>just want to make that quick point that that's that's

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>very important. I want to go to your point, wisdom.

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you a question after I state this.

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember during the Trump election, and I remember I

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was with Tamika. We had just we was in DC

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and we had to get on the train, right and

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>all these polls has said that Hillary was gonna in.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>We we got on the train and the polls told

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>us that she wants This was the polls that the

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>pole said it was. It didn't even make sense. It

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was a landslide. And within two hours he was on

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the train and everything that these poles said didn't happen.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>At that point, I realized that the poland whatever the

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>polls was, it wasn't it wasn't a reliable source. You know.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask you was as a as

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a young man, do you believe that because like you said,

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like we said, we're getting polls, we're getting social media,

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>We're get in the field from social media. How it

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's an uptick and conservative value, especially black

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>men talken with um conservative talken points. Is social media

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>really do we how much do we give, you know,

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>how much props do we give? How much reality do

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we think that social media presents to us? You know,

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>social media is a powerful tool, right, you know, throughout

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, we had to use it really to to

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>reach voters, right, to contact people. But something that I

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>whole hard to believe is like life ston't equal votes, right.

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, folks can be can be shared a million times, Uh,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>folks can shared around. There can be you know, sound bites, clips,

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. At the end of the day,

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it's about turnout, right, It's about that data. Right, It's

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>about making sure that real people in our community are

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 1>reached with that message, and so I think it has

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to help influence, right, And I think how

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>we use it, it's gonna be very important. Um. I

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>think for the younger generation, right, it's our primary source

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of communication. I wake up with the morning. I'm not

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>opening up the newspaper. I'm looking on Instagram, I'm looking

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. I'm hearing what's moving in the media today. Um.

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think the way in which we can change that,

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>right is making sure that folks have the right information,

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like how are we connecting with the culture brands, with

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 1>these sources, with these opportunities, to make sure that they

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>know how influential they have to actually change the course

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of election if they're actually mobilizing people to the polls,

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>m anybody else on social media? And what you think, like,

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>what's the reality? And I would just jump in and

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>say that the I think the internet is extremely dangerous.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it's extremely dangerous. It's actually become very toxic. Yes,

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 1>it can be used, Yes, we all use it. Yes

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>we have found ways to make it work in different situations.

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>But I do agree that there is a sentiment that

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>is brewing online. And by the way, let me just

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>insert here that a few weeks ago, a New York

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Times article came out showing how the Russian bots were

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>involved in the Women's March, and it was used, whoever

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you know and and don't don't get me to uh,

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Congressman Bonus A Boweman is on the is,

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna be careful of what I say. But

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who paid the Russians or who work

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>with them to do what they did. But during the

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Women's March, the bots that attacked us, and particularly lend

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>us our soul, who you all know, uh is our partner,

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>they really focused on her. But by extension, the entire

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Women's March was receiving basically hate tweets all day stories

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>from different sites, and they were working so hard to

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>create dissension among the ranks within the the within the

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Women's March, but of course to turn other people off.

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that those bots still exist, and they

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>have the hotep if you will, uh profiles. Some of

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>them are real individuals, but a lot of them have

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the profiles, and they are screwing or spewing excuse me,

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>certain things and putting things in the atmosphere that is

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>making it very difficult for people to know what's real

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 1>and what's fake online. I don't know others are feeling that.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that you, Jamal have pulled back from being

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>online as much as you used to be. Yeah, that's correct.

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a gift and a curse, um, and

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it's become more of a curse and in many ways

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>than a gift. UM. Yeah, you know, it's a great

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 1>way to share information. It's a great way to communicate

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>different initiatives that you're a part of. UM. You know,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it's great for that. It's it's a it's a media

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>platform to share press releases, tweets about particular issues, bring attention,

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 1>attention to issues is great for that. And and as

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 1>we have all seen, shortly thereafter the toxicity comes in,

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the bods get involved and many of these bodies have

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>been programmed to have an agenda. And this is why,

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, as we talk about until freedom and defeating

0:48:56.280 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>white supremacy and black revolution, we got this step i

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.439
<v Speaker 1>AI game up, our artificial intelligence game up as we

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.399
<v Speaker 1>as we pushed back against that, because we need our

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>own box as well, Uh, telling the narratives that that

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that we want to tell um on social media. So

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, to your point, I'm still on it, but

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I try to avoid the toxicity and the

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>poison as much as I can. But one last point, um,

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think this was said earlier. You know,

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the way celebrities are pushed on social media is really

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:33.479
<v Speaker 1>problematic as well, because we we hold celebrities in such

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 1>high regard um, you know, as a society, when they

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>say something that gets this proportionate attention and then and

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>then it sucks all the oxygen out of the room

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and we can't have real conversations around about real topics,

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.439
<v Speaker 1>and social media is a hard place to do that. Anyway.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that we've got to, I really put our

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>own messaging out. I don't think that the answer is

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>for us to go radio side. Is that we've got

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a great package, but we've got to learn how to

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 1>amplify it. Uh. And we can't leave all of the

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.760
<v Speaker 1>language uh to hate speech and white supremacists and bodies

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>without us touting it. A lot of people are not

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>participated because of what it is that they don't know

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will decry congressmen that this administration

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>hasn't done anything for our community, and that's not true,

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but we've done a bad job of promoting it. And

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>so I think that we've got to go beyond to

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>make a post and matching for genres. I think that

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we got the post. We got to post this stuff

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that's significant, uh, and that's meaningful for our people to

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>know what's taken place. Well to your point, brother, just

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 1>real quick, you're right about that. I would also and

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I've been very critical of the Democratic Party about this.

0:50:54.800 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>The Democratic Party hasn't done enough to communicate with black man,

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>with black people, with disengaged communities, not just since I've

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.799
<v Speaker 1>been in office, but prior to that. You know, one

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why when I ran the party didn't

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>think I had a shot to win is because the

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>party has been unplugged from real people for a very

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>long time. And what do we do. We went door

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to door in our community, knocking on doors, being President

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Canvas and being every way I met Mondale. You know,

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we're down with Bill Cobbs shout, but we was all

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>over the place, right in the streets, and that's how

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>we were able to win. And going back to the

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>polling piece, you know, polling had us Uh, you know

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty much neck and neck. We won that race by

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>sixteen points. Um. So it's the party has to The

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>party has all the resources it needs to do what

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it wants to do. It just chooses to prioritize white,

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>independent slash modern voters and get them to swing to

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>us without talking to us at all, meaning black man

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and and in fact, let's go ahead. I was just

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, you know, it's it's probably inappropriate to discount

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the importance to social media. So I appreciate everybody like

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>telling the truth that we can back away from that

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>technology because it's honestly how most most black men, black

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 1>men actual use YouTube like the rest of the world

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>used to Google. Right, So um, the fact that YouTube

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.479
<v Speaker 1>is the wild wild West as pertains to um. How

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>how campaigns are even spening resources towards black man is

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely ridiculous. But beyond that, I would also say, Um,

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think there's there's I think trying to

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>entertain the black vote out is always gonna um wind

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>up as a field opportunity for the Democratic Party. What

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.720
<v Speaker 1>what we do know though, is, um, there's there's there's

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a wonderful road map on how to win elections.

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>The Democratic Party just was not to use it every

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 1>election cycle. They still do the same thing over and

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 1>over and over with the same consultants, over and over.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm getting emails right now from James Carl

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 1>James Conference should not be sending an email to any

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>black Democrats. He is racist. The fact that they can't

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>even segment out their list. First of all, he's outdated,

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>he's Bill Clinton politics. Majority of black man are triggered

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>by Bill Clinton's name just because of some of his

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>policies and what he did in his office. And people

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can't even read the room to know that much about

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 1>their base. But they're still sending out information. And the

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>reason this is I wanted to say, because I ain't

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>speak on of them about the polls. The reason to

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>pose are so wrong is they're talking to this so

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>called likely voter um. Black men don't never fall into

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>their category. Very few of us, those who went to college,

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>those who are part of you know, uh fraternities, or

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 1>or those who are super voters. That's a very small

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 1>slither of brothers who participated. And while while you are

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>talking about that, that that too you were talking about. Brother.

0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to give this information. Right now, there's

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and nine black men that has already voted

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.399
<v Speaker 1>in a gym a hundred nineties two thousand. It's only

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 1>one one million black men in Georgia, right, so if

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I remove the suppressions, that one is probably gonna jump

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to somewhere over two hundred thousand. That means we're performing.

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, we're out performing white men. Nobody's nobody's

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that black men I outperforming white men and they

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>got older resources and none of the hurdles. Um, we've

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>closed that gap from tem percent to black women. And

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that's how you win. That's how you win. So and

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I think even and even more, I gotta say this again.

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And the reason is because the people who are turning

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>out are not so called likely voters. This is why

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. This is how we win elections. This

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 1>is how we won two So I mean and how

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 1>we do win two I I also think, Um, and

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the last one I said

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>about this. Uh. There's tools you can use, like free tools,

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 1>uh to see what's going on an election outside of posed,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and social media is one of them. Facebook, for instance,

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>will allow you they don't know what. I guess they

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>figured it out yet. You can take the voter file

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>from the state, segmented by race, and take that whole

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>voter file and put it on Facebook. Is in a

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>message to uh for or two dollars, you could reach

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>all of those people, target all those people. And we're

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:12.879
<v Speaker 1>not which not, we're not doing that. We have white

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>consultants because you know, creating messaging that sounds like you're

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.839
<v Speaker 1>talking against us instead of for us. And you're never

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:22.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna make brothers see what your administration did as long

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>as you're out here talking how great the economy is

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>when we know we're double double our white counterpart as

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>obtains unemployment, and that's the number one issue for black men. Um,

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 1>we're never gonna make black men see your issues when

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about uh college, you know, college education being

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the pathway to freedom or or or and it don't

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 1>work that black man. But college ain't got us free. Uh.

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.359
<v Speaker 1>So you took away trades and we need our trades back,

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>including coding, and you're not talking about that the black man.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>These other issues, qualified immunity, when my most black men

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and walk around talking about qualified immunity, The damn show

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was saying, it's screwed up that cock can kill a

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>black man and nothing happens to them or and that

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to me is it comes a qualified immunity that people

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to introduce because they think you

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>talked to black man with cameras a white person in

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a barbershop, and in actuality, any black man has been

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>in a barbershop. Know that once somebody is not a

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>black man walking the room, the whole damn conversation change. Uh,

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 1>it could be a black woman, it could be anybody.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You're walking a barber shop and you're not a black man,

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>entire conversationships, so you're not even getting the real conversation.

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 1>This is why the poles be so bad. I think

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>about this. You they need you. I don't understand why

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing what it makes sense because I told them,

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I told them right now, it's what black men are thinking.

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>You know. The reality like even with social media, like

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I tell to me, it's me. They hate shows for

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>me that she hates for me to get on social

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>media because you know I'm not. I'm gonna say whatever

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel. And I feel like the reality is there

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>has to be a counting narrative, right, if we if

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we are allowing people to dominate one of the major

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>sources of information for our people, right when we go

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to YouTube, like you said, these wildy they're saying everything

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.839
<v Speaker 1>lies they said, nobody is challenging that we don't have

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>five or six people that are telling them the truth. Right,

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>So at least and when they and they know that

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.360
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna tell the truth. So if we're if we're

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>not saying, hey, this is a lie, right, and these

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>people are left to continue to flourish on these platforms

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>with lies and continue to go, then what all they

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>have is this is like it's like, really, there's only

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 1>one candidate, right, If there's no counter narrative, then the

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>only thing they have to believe is truth is the

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>lies that they're being told. So I think the Democratic

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Party has to do a very a better job at

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 1>if you got Kanye over here saying this, then you

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>gotta get somebody of equal value that you're appealing to

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>what they want to really not just come and say, yo,

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna vote a die like nobody were tired. We've

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 1>been voting. We're kind of hearing like the voting ship.

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It was cool at one point, was a good slogan,

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but now we need If you don't vote, When you

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>vote right here, your kids gonna be able to be

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in these schools you vote, your kid's gonna have opportunities

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't have. You vote, your kids are gonna

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>be able to don't have to go through the same

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>struggles that you went through. That Black men are interested

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to making sure that our kids aren't struggling the same

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>way we did. Everything I do is to make sure

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that my son's don't have to work as hard as

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I did to to to be able to just survive.

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I want them to be able to live comfortably and

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>make decisions not based off desperation, not based on poverty,

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 1>not saying damn, I gotta risk my freedom. I gotta

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>do this. I have to do this even though I

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want to, even though my heart is into this,

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>even though I'm skilled at this. But I need to

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>get this regular job and go away from my passion

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.920
<v Speaker 1>because I can't survive. That's what black men are interested in.

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>And if they don't get up, if the party doesn't

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>focus around those things the average everyday black man is

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>dealing with, then they're gonna lose, and they have to

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>use these platforms. They gotta get on these platforms and

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 1>use the voice because it's people like us that want

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to be able. I can't go up there and tell

0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody voted Doe. I'm just not saying that. No, yeah, yeah,

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna jump in real quick. So excellent

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>points all the way around. Um So, so I'm in

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Congress right now, the first black man in US history

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to hold this seat. One of the reasons why I'm

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>here is because black men and black people came out

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and voted for me. And I could have did much

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>better with black men if I was more strategic and

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>getting them out during my first race. But the fact

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that I even represent came forth as an actual black man,

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>more black man came out to vote. Right. So I'm

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>here now. Right. Because I'm here, new and different conversations

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>are happening and different questions are being asked. So we

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>have a White House liaison that we communicate with consistently.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in direct contact with the president chief of staff,

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and I have told him, like when mom Dale had

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that great article I think it's in the Washington Post

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 1>about the White House is failing on black men. I

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:57.919
<v Speaker 1>called the Chief of President, Chief of Saving and was like, Yo,

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you see this article, you gotta do about it. You

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>need to call him in when you have me blah

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. And they like, I man, I I like

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 1>not really listening, like okay whatever. The Democrat probably had

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a retreat and they brought in like some consultants to

1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>teach us, to train us on messaging. Know, they brought

1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in they brought in the people who who did those

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Dove commercials about love your body and and and they

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and they put us through this whole thing on doing

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.240
<v Speaker 1>this for messaging, dev comversson, love your bady whatever. They've

1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 1>never had a conversation with me who won the historic

1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 1>collection about like messaging. They never have a conversation with

1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:39.880
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the squad all one historic elections Sunday. Know,

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they never brought us in and said, Yo, what what

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>did y'all do teach us? Never ever did that at all.

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>On the other side, one of during one of my

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:54.480
<v Speaker 1>first weeks in Congress, seven members of the European Union,

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 1>seven ambassadors from the European Union set me up with

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a lunch at the Ambassador's them in d C, Germany.

1:01:01.640 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Was there, Italy was there. All of these people were there.

1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>They just wanted to meet the person they do beat

1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Elliott Ingle because they couldn't believe that it happened. So

1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I got Europe wanting to talk to me, and half

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:16.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation me to be like, Yo, how did you be?

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Who is this person? Be Elliot Ingle? But the the

1:01:19.680 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 1>party here didn't do that right, So the part of

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the makers the party has failed historically and continues to

1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.480
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that now that I'm here, my Dala

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<v Speaker 1>is involved in all that we can continue to push

1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the party to have the conversations we need to have

1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:37.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's not just about voting, it's about accountability after

1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the vote. And you know, me communicating with y'all, my

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:43.160
<v Speaker 1>sign to me could consistently let y'all know what's going

1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.040
<v Speaker 1>on in Washington, let you know about the bill asking

1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you to calls b That's just is power, Like we're

1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:51.360
<v Speaker 1>power building right now and it's not obviously it's not

1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen overnight. So that's why I like I wanted

1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to come on to to really help. I know it's

1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 1>hard because you know, we've been ignored and marginalized for

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.160
<v Speaker 1>far too long but we we are beginning the process

1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of building the power we need to build and having

1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:09.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation like this is a big part of that. What

1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is the messaging? You know, Massan just went through a

1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:14.800
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. I'm not gonna say voter to die, but

1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:18.240
<v Speaker 1>all of you are out there talking to your base.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this week, this on on Sunday, Rev. Bryant

1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:27.280
<v Speaker 1>or Jamal Briant, he got my phone blowing up with

1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>people because he's the one line master and from he said,

1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't need a walker, we need a runner, and

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, everybody's blowing up saying, you know, Jamal

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:42.040
<v Speaker 1>has hit the people with a good line in terms

1:02:42.120 --> 1:02:46.919
<v Speaker 1>of one election. But I know, Jamal Bryant that you

1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:51.040
<v Speaker 1>have to talk to your members one on one more

1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:53.960
<v Speaker 1>than the one line from the pulpit. You're out here

1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:57.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to encourage people, registering people to vote, being in

1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the community. What is the message is them saying? What

1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:04.280
<v Speaker 1>is the message here? You are Mondel sitting in the

1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:10.200
<v Speaker 1>center of getting black men, the black men, the Black

1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:13.680
<v Speaker 1>male Voter project. You gotta you're out here, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to our people. What are you saying? And I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to give the congressman the last word, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a tough job to come from to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of a party that you know is not

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<v Speaker 1>handling business properly for our people, but still to try

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage folks to see past that uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>engage in the process. So let's start with Reverend Brunt.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been telling family that the Black Church needs to

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<v Speaker 1>take a page from white evangelicals. White evangelicals promote policy,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Black Church historically has promoted personality, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have failed to talk about what are the issues that

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<v Speaker 1>are driving us to the pole too. What Mondale's point is,

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<v Speaker 1>black men educate themselves on what is our point, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Church has not done. So we have pushed

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<v Speaker 1>people who are chasmatic, who are articulate, who are marketable,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't hold any accountability around what is the policy agenda?

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<v Speaker 1>And so our responsibility at this tick of the watch

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<v Speaker 1>is to raise what are the policies in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the people. If you stick with what our policies are,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna forget the personality. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that we have to do is really

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<v Speaker 1>gras up what are our policies or what my son

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<v Speaker 1>Roland Martin always says, what's the ask? What are we

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<v Speaker 1>looking for to come on the other side of this

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<v Speaker 1>mid term election other than we need your vote in

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<v Speaker 1>the midterms so we can get it in the presidential

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<v Speaker 1>primaries in sixto months. So I think that part of

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<v Speaker 1>our process at this ticket of watch is really underscoring

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<v Speaker 1>what are the policies I wouldn't save very quick great

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<v Speaker 1>the till movie on last night about Emma Teal uh

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<v Speaker 1>to see a young Megan ever talk about while this

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<v Speaker 1>is good uh for one chase, one chase is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to change it. We need a completely different overhaul

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<v Speaker 1>of the system. And I think that that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>our responsibility. What wisdom YEA when when I'm out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets with the young people and talking with

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<v Speaker 1>them and engaging with them, I really urge them to

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that we are the ones that we've been waiting for. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we know that power can see nothing out

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<v Speaker 1>of demand. And the more and more we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>urge the folks who are in power to actually uh

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<v Speaker 1>speak these issues and actually create real change and implement policy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the more that we'll see it. You Know,

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize the fact that we are a great mobilizing body, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of things that we're still working

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<v Speaker 1>on in our generation. But thinking about gen Z, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about millennials, we are the largest living block in America, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the way that we are really see

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<v Speaker 1>that powers by mobilizing our folks, mobilizing our peers, and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about our spheres of influence, right, how we can

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<v Speaker 1>reach people who are in our communities. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>power of five, the power were reaching into places and

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<v Speaker 1>spaces that aren't being touched. Because at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, the folks who are here on this call

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who are doing the work right, the

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are consistently engaging day after day. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I love seeing right now is the the young black

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<v Speaker 1>men who are running for Congress. Right. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Maxwell Frost out of Florida, You've got Mandela Barns

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<v Speaker 1>out of Wisconsin. Right. I've never been so engaged with

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin in my life until this moment in time to

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<v Speaker 1>see people who look like me, who come from places

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<v Speaker 1>like me. I get texts from Exwell Frost every single

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<v Speaker 1>day talking about voting, talking about voting and so making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we are seeing more candidates who come from

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<v Speaker 1>our community, who are going to be accountable, who have plans,

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<v Speaker 1>who care about those issues, because everything that we've advocated for,

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<v Speaker 1>even in just this year is under attack. Right we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about student Day cancelation. The people who don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to happen are the ones who are voting, the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who are pushing. And so the more we actually engage

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<v Speaker 1>with that, the more we actually see things through, the

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<v Speaker 1>more we actually keep pushing at the door, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>a better future. I mean, we don't have a script

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<v Speaker 1>as it pertains to what we tell brothers to go

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<v Speaker 1>vote because and I think the lesson of that is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you to meet with my son y'all. We

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<v Speaker 1>we were blessed to be together in and Georgia at

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<v Speaker 1>my event on election night, and it was a hood

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<v Speaker 1>as event. I mean, we have a good as political

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<v Speaker 1>program that is absolutely working. I mean we we I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think the best thing to do is make

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<v Speaker 1>sure and in the conversations you're having with voters you're

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<v Speaker 1>not transactional. We're not going to people do it right

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<v Speaker 1>now talking about this is the most important election in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. We step away from those conversations. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but we've had nineteen conversations with black men

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<v Speaker 1>in our seventeen states this year, So each one of

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<v Speaker 1>the black men in our state had nineteen conversations from us,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those who are not traditional voters. We spend more

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<v Speaker 1>time and energy on these people. So now or we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing to say, hey, don't forget to go vote. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we need to say. Because our work is

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<v Speaker 1>not from the past two month, two days. I work

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<v Speaker 1>has been since January. So these brothers know what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>They know that this election. Uh, they know what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to them. They know what issue is important to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what motivates them and what doesn't. You also

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<v Speaker 1>know what's realistic. We also tell brothers all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>voting for somebody, who electing somebody, it's not revolutionary, unelecting

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<v Speaker 1>their ass They don't do, They say, is so election

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<v Speaker 1>revolution doesn't happen in one cycle. Um, it's the power

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of incumbents. Getting rid of incomments is

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<v Speaker 1>something that don't know only happen Jamal woman defeated incumbent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the mayor of my hometown. I defeated incumbent and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way that works is if you stay

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<v Speaker 1>off TV and stay in front of people throughout the year,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have the right to ask that person to

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<v Speaker 1>go vote um and not use these dumb as white taxis.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't do nothing for communities. Mm hmm. Con and

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<v Speaker 1>you got the last words. Absolutely, So we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>defeat white supremacy in four hundred years of oppression and

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<v Speaker 1>one election cycle. We have to be consistently engaged and

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<v Speaker 1>build doing real power, building black power over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the rest of our lives. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>fight for the rest of our lives, and this every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for me, when I got into Congress

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw all these lobbies coming at me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the pro Israel lobby, the fossil fuel lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby,

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<v Speaker 1>police unions, military industrial cobbis. All these lobbies bombarm me

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<v Speaker 1>with calls and letters and they want to meet and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to give me money so I could do

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<v Speaker 1>what they want, and obviously I don't respond to them.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to build that kind of power in Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>in every state house, in every county, every miss municipality

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<v Speaker 1>across the country, and it's grassroots up and it's power building.

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<v Speaker 1>So the message and the mission is Black power. And

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<v Speaker 1>the more I learned, and the more we all learn

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<v Speaker 1>and share with each other, we are building that power

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<v Speaker 1>for the long term. So yes, absolutely vote this cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you vote and go to sleep, that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about remaining engaged. Uh, to hold that's accountable. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the bottom line. It's accountability. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you hold your members a Congress and like the fish accountable, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do what they need to do for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they don't you vote, they vote their asses

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<v Speaker 1>out office. I'm so happy to have this conversation, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say think all of you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you said is very important as a black man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who who actually just wants the best for

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<v Speaker 1>his people. It's hard, you know, it's hard having these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard talking to damage individuals dealing with trauma who

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<v Speaker 1>have not received anything from this government, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>mon does. It's the audacity that America things that we

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<v Speaker 1>they we owe them. I would vote, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the reality is that we really don't owe them anything,

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<v Speaker 1>owe our stuff. And I hope people are paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that people listen to this conversation and understand

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<v Speaker 1>that black men have things that they want and things

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<v Speaker 1>that they need, and ways we need to be addressed

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<v Speaker 1>and respected, you know, and just telling us whatever you think,

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<v Speaker 1>or just disregarding us and going after other demographics, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna work for us. So, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you, guys and appreciate you for being

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<v Speaker 1>able to say the things I'll be thinking. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to say it as good as y'all be

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<v Speaker 1>saying it, but I'll be thinking the same things you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be saying. You say it perfectly fine, And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that my brothers came on today as well to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we focus a lot on black women, but

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<v Speaker 1>we thought leading into this last few days before the election,

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to focus on the black man, because

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<v Speaker 1>without a strong black man in our communities, our communities

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<v Speaker 1>are hopeless. I believe that my father, he is the

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<v Speaker 1>king of our home and our work, he whole. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the man. Everybody knows stand is the man. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing about it is that that man understands his

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<v Speaker 1>power is also in building his woman and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that my mother is happy. So That's what it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about for me, is bringing us together and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that no one in our community is left behind. I

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<v Speaker 1>love y'all so very much. Rever Jamal Bryant, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandell Robinson, thank you, Wisdom Cold, and thank you Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Balming, thank you, Peacia. Love y'all talk soon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how that was great. It was great. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it needs we need like fifty more of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I hope that somebody pays attention to this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I hope that you know, that people start

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on what's real. You know, like you said, internet

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous. It's dangerous for two things. It's dangerous is

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<v Speaker 1>because if you give the wrong person power on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>they can miss inform at such a quick rate. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can miss inform somebody so fast million the people

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a hundred million followers and twenty million and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million followers, and you put out some information as false, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they take it as is really what it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it moves They moved so fast, and people to

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<v Speaker 1>grab onto it. Man. So I hope that the truth

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<v Speaker 1>tellers understand that we have to utilize our voices the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that the people who are intentionally spreading misinformation

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<v Speaker 1>and lives on. And we got to combat these lives

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<v Speaker 1>because they're harmful. You know, we're in very critical times

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives, not just in in this election, but

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<v Speaker 1>in every election, every time that we have an election,

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<v Speaker 1>every time that we exalt someone to a level of power.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's critical because when you have the ears

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<v Speaker 1>of the masters and people start to believe you and

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<v Speaker 1>the hearts, it's hard to pull away. Man. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>how the power you know, in their own hands is misleading.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about the cold leaders. Cold leaders have had followers, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk are people like Hitler. When you get when

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<v Speaker 1>you get the ears of people and you start to

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize it the wrong way, you see how it

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<v Speaker 1>can go. You know, how it can really destroyed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just hoping that somebody's listening. Man, I hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. You know, this was a this was an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency UM show. It's emergent conversation, So we went away

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<v Speaker 1>from our normal format. You know, I ain't even going

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<v Speaker 1>into my I don't get it, none of that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that. I just don't get how people think

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<v Speaker 1>that we shouldn't be involved in any process that affects

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, whether you like it or not. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to find out the policies that you need that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to directly affect you in your community and your lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and then find out those you know, the candidates that

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<v Speaker 1>afford those policies, and get out there and do what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do. So with that said, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna always be right to make a Demalori is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna always be wrong, but we were both always

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean always be authentic. Make sure you go

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<v Speaker 1>out and vote. Vote for your interests, vote for your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>vote for your wife, with for your husband, vote for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that's right. And November eight is the last day

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<v Speaker 1>of vote, last places. Early voting is happening. Now find

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<v Speaker 1>your polling location and go cash your vote. Piece. Listen

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