1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition from this is not going to 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of sympathy out there, but illegitimately cold Miami. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: I am been with Buck here in Miami. I woke 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: up this morning and it was about forty five degrees. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: People were walking around in Miami like they were on 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: ski slopes. It is now a toasty sixty one degrees, 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: which for Miami is about as cold as it can get. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: We are going to the big national championship game tonight 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: along with President Trump Marco Rubio. 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be quite. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: A scene down in Miami at hard Rock Stadium with 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Indiana and Miami playing for the college football national Championship. 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have some good stories about that tomorrow, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: and we're all looking forward to checking that scene out. 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of stories out there coming 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: out of a weekend of feverish I would even say 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: new stories. President Trump continues to up the pressure on Greenland. 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: We will discuss exactly what we anticipate happening there. We 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: will continue to follow everything coming out of Venezuela, as 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: there have been many different news stories associated with things there. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: But we begin with the cultural flashpoint that is Minneapolis 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and the ongoing fallout of the protests there, and Buck, 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll start off with this idea. I'm gonna be honest 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: with you. It is so cold that I really thought 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: the weather in Minneapolis actually yeah, yah, yeah, just to 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: be clear, actually so cold in Minneapolis that I thought, 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: to a large extent they might decide that they were 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: not going to aggressively be protesting like they have been, 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: and instead, it says if these protesters now, to be fair, 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: some of them, many of them may be getting paid 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: to protest, but man, they are still showing up in 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: earnest and I think they are, unfortunately for them, engaging 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: in behavior that is going to be very, very hard 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: for the average person of America to support, including over 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the weekend on Sunday a video that when megaviral that 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I want to play for all of you. Protesters stormed 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: a church in the midst of a church service to protest. 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Ice here is what it sounded like. I want to 39 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: play a couple of these. Of course, Don Lemon, who 40 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: has been fired by CNN for incompetence, was following these 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: protesters and it's turned into a big story. But let's 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: play cut too. First, for those of you that did 43 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: not hear what that sounded like. Here it was Minneapolis yesterday. 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: Renee go, renee god, renee God? 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: Where are you? 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Where are you? 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 5: Where are you? 48 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: Where are your people the house? 49 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: Why are you not at whimble every day fighting for 50 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: the humanity, standing for our people? Where are you all 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: these comfortable white people who are living lavish, comfortable life. Well, 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 5: children aren't dragged into concentration camps. You're living real life, 53 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: nice lives and your lattes, doing absolutely nothing for your 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: Latino as Somali brothers and sisters. 55 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Okay, buck, this is I mean, you heard it. This 56 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: is evidence of what was going on. Again, just to 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of put this into context, I'm sure a lot 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: of people out there were in their own church services 59 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: across the country on Sunday. Can you imagine what it 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: would be like. You got kids sitting there in church, 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: you have an actual worship service underway, and then these crazy, 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: lunatic protesters storm into the church and disrupt it. We'll 63 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: play a couple of more cuts for you. But this 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: has gone megaviral. There now is an investigation into whether 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: law was broken in the method and manner in which 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: these protests took place, and that is a complicated aspect 67 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: of things. We can maybe dive into that legally, but 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: just in terms of how it plays for the larger 69 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: universe of people out there. If you are storming into 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: a worship service and you are disrupting it, you are 71 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: not the good guy. I think this is going to 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: play very poorly for these protesters. 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 6: Nothing is sacred to these lunatic Marxists, and they make 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 6: it very clear that this is about resentment. It's about 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 6: resentment of white people. And you might say, how is 76 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: that possible. Some of the people shouting are white. Well, 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 6: it's whiteness, right. It's this construct of the comfortable Christian 78 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: standard American white family that is not activated enough and 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 6: that enrages the left wing and left wing white black, anybody. 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: The notion that there are people that are happy and 81 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 6: content with their lives that would show up to a 82 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: church service in Minneapolis and not think a better u 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 6: usage of their time is to try to obstruct law enforcement. 84 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 6: None of these people really care about the Latino or 85 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 6: Somali communities there. I also know Clay when they compare, 86 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 6: and I watched there's a lot of these videos right 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 6: cause there take keep in mind, they're showing these videos 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: like they're the good guys. That's right, that's the hilarious part. 89 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: And I give full credit to that pastor, whoever he is. 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 6: He was calm, but he was firm. He was like, 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: you people have no right to be here. I want 92 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: you to leave. We're trying to worship God. What are 93 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: you doing? Imagine this? Think of the disrespect here of 94 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: going into the church. And also, would they go into 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: a mosque. 96 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: And do this. 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 6: I just want to know there's plenty of mosques, because 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 6: there's plenty of Somalis. Would they go in and say, hey, 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: why are you guys here? You need to be out 100 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 6: in the streets Muslim Somalis. Would they do this to 101 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 6: anybody else? 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: No, they would not. 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 6: They only do this to a group that they identify 104 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 6: as being part of the kind of right of center 105 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 6: American paradigm. I'm sure there's a lot of Democrats in 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 6: that church, by the way, that's not this is Minneapolis. 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: The point is they're just agitators and they're looking for 108 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 6: people to put their put their fury on. 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: They're taking advantage of the openness of Christians candidly, because 110 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: churches are open to everyone in Israel, they have a 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: lot of holy sites. I think it's very interesting if 112 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: you analyze it, that churches are open to everyone by 113 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: and large. Unfortunately, a lot of people are afraid of 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the danger, so synagogues have now in America, many of 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: them do armed security because of the unfortunate attacks that 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: have been occurring. But yes, they would never do this 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: in a mosque because they would be afraid of what 118 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: would happen to them. You can't in many places, if 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: you are not Muslim, even enter a mosque. A lot 120 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: of them restrict their access. And also, I want to 121 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: play this of Don Lemon because this is to me 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: just evidence of what a moron this guy is. He 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: lectures this pastor, Jonathan Parnell, who is in the middle 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: of a church service, about how he has a First 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Amendment right to disrupt the church service. And this, I mean, 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: to the pastor's credit, he actually handled this I think 127 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: quite very well. Yeah, and uh and interacted with Don Lemon. 128 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: But here's what it sounded like. Cut three. Don Lemon 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: fired by CNN, storming alongside of these protesters into the 130 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: church and haranguing this pastor, who, if you watch the video, 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: is in the middle of his church service, cut three. 132 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: What do you think of this? 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 7: I mean, this is unacceptable, It's shameful. It's shameful to 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 7: interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 135 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 2: But I have to take care of my flock. 136 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 8: There's a Constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 8: speech and freedom to a civil in protest. 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus 139 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: because that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: of the world is Jesus. Christ's very respectful. But please 141 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: don't push me. 142 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 7: Then we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's why 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 7: we're here. That's why we're here. That's what we're about. 144 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: What do you think Jesus would be understanding? 145 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 7: And we're about We're about us praying the love of 146 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 7: Jesus to talk to them is willing to talk. 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 9: Okay. 148 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 7: I have to take care of my church, about family. 149 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 7: So I asked this, you actually would also leave for 150 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 7: this film? 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to. I'm always worse. I'm a Christian. 152 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: We're here, Well, we're here to worship. 153 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 9: We're here to worship. 154 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. Jon Is a degenerate moron. 155 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: But put that aside. 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 6: You know, he's he's always been somebody who's only about himself. Okay, 157 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 6: I remember him from CNN. The fact Clay that he 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 6: sits in this or stands in this church and it 159 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: is having this conversation with this individual. This is someone 160 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: who is he. 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: Had his shot at X. 162 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 6: It's all about him, right, It's all about whatever he 163 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 6: wants to do, whenever he wants it. He doesn't know anything. 164 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: The Constitution doesn't give you a right to be it's 165 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 6: private property. Actually, you have been trespassed. Now you are 166 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 6: breaking the law. You do not have a First Amendment 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 6: right to go into private property and mob people and 168 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 6: menace them. Don Lemon is a. 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Joke, yes, And if you're a think about it, Don 170 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Lemon is probably approaching fifty five sixty years old, would 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: be my guest. 172 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Oh, he's in his sixties. Okay, he's older than you 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: would think. Yes. 174 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: So Don Lemon has done media for decades. What did 175 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: you think that you would have a basic understanding of 176 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: the First Amendment to lecture a minister in the midst 177 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: of his service nine fifty nine. Okay, So to lecture 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: a minister in the midst of his service that this 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: is about the First Amendment. Look, I think the First 180 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: Amendment is probably one of the most misunderstood rights that 181 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: exist in all of America. But you hit on it. 182 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: There are all sorts of restrictions. You don't have the right. 183 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Someone can't just storm into where we're doing this show 184 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: right now in the midst of the studio. 185 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: Be a bad idea. I got, I got a lot 186 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: of things in this room mess. 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: But you don't have their time and place restrictions and 188 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: content neutral applications of speech. You don't have the right 189 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to show up in a private venue and start to 190 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: lecture them with your First Amendment rights. 191 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: I mean this is first the trespass one hundred First. 192 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 6: First off, they're trespassing, okay, So the same way that 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 6: if you're in a restaurant you start a fight. Yeah, 194 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 6: you might have been welcome when you walked in, but 195 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 6: the moment that the people who own the place, own 196 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 6: the venue say you need to leave and you don't, 197 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 6: you're trespassing, Well, the cops will show up and arrestue 198 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: for a trespass. 199 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, imagine if you're in a bar or restaurant, 200 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: leave aside the church and you walk in and you 201 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: start chanting in the midst of the venue, they're going 202 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: to be able to remove you. I mean, we talked 203 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot about this with the First Amendment protests on 204 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: college campuses. You don't have a right to put a 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: tent down, you don't have a right to take over 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: a campus squad. And so the fact that this is 207 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: what they believe is going to bring people to their 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: side is I think evidence of just how disconnected they 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: are from the reality. 210 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that's even what they're trying to do. Though. 211 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: This reminds me play of Trump one point zero administration, 212 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 6: when remember the maniacs would chase after people from the 213 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 6: administration in restaurants. They would find the like ice director 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 6: of the time, or they would find Ted Cruz's faded. 215 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: But yes, they were like, get in their face. You 216 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to eat at these restaurants. 217 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 6: But my point is that they're not trying to change 218 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 6: anybody's mind. They're acting out, They're throwing a tantrum, they're 219 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: harassing people. Do you think anyone in this church who 220 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 6: is there to worship God, do you think anybody is 221 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 6: sitting there thinking Wow. 222 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: I never really thought. 223 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 6: About the plight of the Somalis in this community until now. 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 6: But given the really excellent I mean, the guy's like 225 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 6: mocking everyone say, I'm sure there are people in there 226 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 6: who have all kinds of their own problems, financial and personal. 227 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 6: They're in a church, the one place that they think 228 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: they can come together in the community and be safe, 229 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 6: and they have some mediac. 230 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: Like you're sitting here drinking latte, is so comfortable. 231 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 6: That guy is a belligerent Marxian malcontent the base, unfortunately 232 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: of the Democrat Party. 233 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: Well to your point, also, there likely are many people, 234 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine in that church who voted for Tim 235 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Walls or who have voted for may Or Fry. So 236 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: the idea that you're somehow confronting all of these Trump 237 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: supporters by walking into church is just flagrantly untrue. 238 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: They're not trying to convince these people. They're using these people, right. 239 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: The whole point is they want this exchange. They know 240 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 6: no one in that church. No one in that church 241 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 6: is going, oh wow, that's a really compelling point you 242 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 6: made interrupting my church service. 243 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: Now I'm with you. 244 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 6: Let's go march in the streets and like block ice 245 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 6: from doing their operations. No, they're intentionally inflicting emotional distress 246 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 6: on this group. They're obstructing their proceedings. They're trespassing so 247 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: that they can get these videos and that Don Lemon 248 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 6: can be talked about for the first time in like 249 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 6: two years. 250 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to play more of these cuts because 251 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: I do think it's significant and team I don't believe 252 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: Tim Walls and Jacob Frye tweet about everything. The governor 253 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: and mayor both in Minneapolis, not a word they said 254 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: a word about this protest or just said, hey, you 255 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: know what, maybe this is a step too far. Check 256 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: on that, because when I was doing prep this morning 257 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: a little bit ago, they still had not weigh in 258 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: in any way. We'll break all that down for you. 259 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Continue with all of these stories, and I want to 260 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: tell you the Identity Theft a resource center nonprofit organization 261 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: set up twenty five years ago to provide consumers with 262 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: assistance in dealing with identity theft. 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We just talked about what they 288 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 6: did in the church service, which was appalling, and you know, 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 6: it's interesting, Clay, we actually can be consistent on this stuff. 290 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 6: I would never advocate for conservatives to disrupt a religious 291 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 6: service because we had some issue that was it's just 292 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: it's not the time and the place. It's disrespectful, and 293 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 6: they do it to be disrespectful. See that's what you 294 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 6: have to remember. It's not, oh, we had no choice, 295 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: but this, No, they choose to disrupt a religious service 296 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 6: because they want to spit on Christianity. They want to 297 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: spit on people who are trying to go about their 298 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 6: day and worship God and not pretend that there are 299 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 6: some kind of social justice warriors. Then there's this though, 300 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 6: the Trump administration is not backing down at all in 301 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: any of this, which is excellent to see because I 302 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 6: do think that BLM in the first Trump administration unfortunately 303 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 6: got a little out of hand and Trump wasn't able 304 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 6: to quell it very quickly, and there was a period 305 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 6: of a few weeks there after George Floyd where the 306 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 6: administration was caught flat footed. Just I observed I said it, 307 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: then I observed it. They were not doing enough. Not 308 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 6: the case in this time around. They recognize what's going 309 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 6: on the fact that CNN is reporting this is cut 310 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 6: one that the FBI is opening an investigation into Renee 311 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: Goods widow play. 312 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 10: Cut one breaking news just coming at CNN is learning 313 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 10: that the FBI briefly opened a civil rights investigation to 314 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 10: the ICE agent who shot and killed three seven year 315 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 10: old Renee Good in Minneapolis, but the bureau then switched 316 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 10: the probe to focusing on whether the agent was assaulted. 317 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 10: The investigation is now centering on Goods actions and those 318 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 10: around her, as well as those of her widow Good. 319 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: They shouldn't pardon the expression there, but they should be 320 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 6: looking into everything that happened here. They should investigate it 321 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 6: like there would any other lethal force incident. 322 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Also pointing out, at least based on what I've seen 323 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: from Julie Kelly, these two women were not married, so 324 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: even the use of the phrase widow, they were never 325 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: actually married. So they're trying to make it seem as 326 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: if she's a victim. But maybe we can grab the 327 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: audio of her yelling dry baby drive something like that 328 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: is my recollection from the camera that was carried by 329 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the Ice agent. They had buck a front page profile 330 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: of the ICE agent in the New York Times, identifying 331 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: him by name, his entire background, everything about him. I 332 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: now am of the opinion that you shared, which is 333 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: President Trump should invite him to the State of the 334 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Union at this point, because they have outed him to 335 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: such an extent that I think there's no ability for 336 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: him to hide any more. Full name, his entire employment history. 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: He's a veteran, not surprisingly of the Armed forces. He 338 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: lives in the Minneapolis suburbs, so they have doxed him 339 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: effectively every detail about. 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Him on the front page of the New York Times. 341 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: Over the weekends. 342 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 6: The New York Times newsroom would cheer, not publicly, but 343 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: cheer if something terrible happened to that Ice officer, which 344 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 6: is the reality. They actually want something bad to happen 345 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 6: to him, and they're helping something. 346 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Bad possibly happening. God forbid. 347 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 6: Look, having a backup form of communication is always a 348 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 6: smart idea. 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Okay, 367 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: let's kind of fill you in a bit more on 368 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: some of these details. Friend of mine from Minneapolis texted 369 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: me after the open of the show and he pointed 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: out something that I do think is important. In addition 371 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: to the fact that it was unacceptable the way that 372 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: the church service was interrupted by these protesters. We have 373 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: talked about a great deal buck Minneapolis church service. Those 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: kids were murdered just a few months ago for the 375 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: start of the school year by a crazy transshooter who 376 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: showed up and intentionally targeted that Minneapolis area church. And 377 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: so apprehension and nervousness is running at a high level already, 378 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: I would imagine in many Minneapolis area churches. So when 379 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: you have these protesters who are uninvited storm in amidst 380 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: the church service, the whole concept is added with the 381 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: complexities and the fear and the danger. In fact, you 382 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: can see some of those kids crying during the course 383 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: of this storming of the church where you go to 384 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: feel safe, and that has continued to take away from 385 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: the safety. So I do think the context of Minneapolis 386 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: church service is feeling under siege and endangered is a 387 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: huge part of this story, and the way that it 388 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: was likely to have been injured and experienced by everyone 389 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: that was in that church service. A couple of other 390 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: things I asked the team to pull. There's talk that 391 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: Renee Goods partner, according again to Julie Kelly, they were 392 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: not married, so this is not a widow that her 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: partner is being investigated. I believe we have pulled the 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: audio she yelled on video drive, Baby drive, I wanted 395 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: to play that for you guys. That was in many ways, 396 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: it seems the instigating factor, the command that led her 397 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: partner to refuse to accede to the commands of the 398 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: ICE agents. 399 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: Listen to that. Do you want to come at us? 400 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: I said, go give you some some lines, big boy, 401 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: out the car, Get out of the car. 402 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: You can hear her there, drive baby drive as her 403 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: partner takes off, and that then led to the shooting 404 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: that led to the injury to the ICE agent. So 405 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I do think you could investigate her for instigating this incident, 406 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: as well as herself refusing to accede to the commands 407 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: of an ICE agent. 408 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 6: Well, of course they have to investigate this. There's a 409 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 6: fatal shooting, and it's procedure for there to be, as 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 6: it should be procedure, a full and thorough accounting for 411 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 6: what happened, and they have to do that in an 412 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 6: official capacity. So that means all of the elements of this. 413 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 6: That's what justice requires, and that's true even in the 414 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: most clear cut case of lawful use of force by 415 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 6: the officers. So there's going to be an investigation. There 416 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 6: has to be an investigation, and that this other person 417 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: who was very clearly involved, is a part of that. 418 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: Now will there be charges against her, that's a different question. 419 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 6: But will it be clear what role she played in 420 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 6: this and what all the facts were. We have to 421 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 6: get to that place, Clay, because you can. As you 422 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 6: pointed out, they're sharing information about this guy in an 423 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 6: effort to make him a villain and intimidate him and 424 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 6: ruin his life and his families, that's yes, and put 425 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 6: them under threat. That is what they are dosing. The 426 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 6: New York Times docks an ice officer. They gave far 427 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 6: more information and background on him than they need to, 428 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 6: but they they send a message by doing this. Of course, right, 429 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: part of this is about this one guy. Part of 430 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 6: it is everybody else involved in ice enforcement operations has 431 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 6: to go. Do I want my kids seeing, you know, 432 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 6: death threat emails on my screen? I want my kids 433 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: to be you know, yelled at in school by lunatic 434 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 6: teachers or whatever. 435 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: It may be. We mentioned potential criminal charges. 436 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Team has looked it up, among other things, The Freedom 437 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. The FACE Act is 438 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: a US law enacted in nineteen ninety four. I'm going 439 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: to be candid with you guys. I have not had 440 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: any experience in this law or in really analyzing it 441 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: in any kind of significant way from a legal perspective 442 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: to know exactly how often it has been applied in 443 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: cases such as these. But in theory, it prohibits the 444 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: use of force, threats, or physical obstruction against individuals seeking 445 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: to obtain or provide services relating to reproductive health clinics 446 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: and places of worship. It aims to prevent violence and 447 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: intimidation against patients and providers in these settings. Buck we 448 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: have seen the Biden administration prosecuted aggressively people who protested 449 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: outside of abortion clinics, anyone who was standing on the 450 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: corner outside. They prosecuted a lot of people, and some 451 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: of those cases went viral because there were incidents of 452 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: violence between people who were protesting outside. So the Biden 453 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: administration aggressively utilized this in order to be able to 454 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: do this, and so there is the potential HARMI Dillon, 455 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: who we have had on this program several times, she 456 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: is investigating as the head of the Federal Civil Rights 457 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Division inside of the Trump administration. She has already posted 458 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: that they are aggressively investigating this incident, in particular, in fact, Ali, 459 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: let's reach out to them and invite her to come 460 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: on the program to talk in a general sense about 461 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: that investigation, not specifically charges that might be brought, but 462 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: just how an investigation such as those may be played. 463 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: Now Don lemonbuck feeling nervous. He is now saying, well, well, 464 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: this was just journalism by me. All I did was 465 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: follow these protesters. I didn't even know what was going 466 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: to happen. As he is being ridiculed for his misapprehension 467 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: of the First Amendment and also for storming into the 468 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: church himself. Cut five as Don Lemon saying, hey, I 469 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: had no idea this was going to happen. That's a lie, 470 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: because there is footage of him outside coordinating with these 471 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: protesters so that he is there to follow them as 472 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: they storm into this church. This is cut five. 473 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 9: I have no affiliation to that organization. I didn't even 474 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 9: know they were going to this church until we followed 475 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 9: them there. We were there chronicling protests. Once the protests 476 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 9: started in the church, we did an act of journalism, 477 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 9: which was we poured on it and talk to the 478 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 9: people who were involved, which included the pastor, members of 479 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 9: the church, and members of the organization. 480 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: That's it. 481 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 9: It's called journalism. First Amendment, all that stuff. All of 482 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 9: the people who believe in the First Amendment. Absolutely, there 483 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 9: you go. 484 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 8: So why don't we talk to the actual person who 485 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 8: is in charge of the organization and whose idea was 486 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 8: to have the protests at the church before you start 487 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 8: blaming me for stuff for which you have been here. 488 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: Now he's running scared. 489 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: So first of all, he's moved from the First Amendment 490 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: protects these protesters' rights to intimidate shutdown an actual church 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: service in a private setting where they were not invited. 492 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: You actually heard the pastor say, unless you're here to worship, 493 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: then can we continue with this? And now he's saying, actually, 494 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: I was just here by chance, basically, and I happen 495 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: to follow these protesters into the church. Now, I do 496 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: think as a journalist he has more protections than the 497 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: protesters do because he can argue, to be fair to him, Hey, 498 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I was following these protesters in didn't work on January sixth, Well, 499 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: that I'm just saying this is a intriguing case in 500 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: many ways because you know, again he is going to 501 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: argue I was just there as a journalist to chronicle it. 502 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: But it's a very different and subdued women compared to 503 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: the guy who was there lecturing the church minister during 504 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: the middle of the service in the inside of the church, 505 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: to now saying, oh, I just happened to follow these 506 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: protesters in. Unfortunately, Look, he was part and parcel of 507 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: the entire protest. 508 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 6: I'm not even sure what kind of a church this 509 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 6: is a team if you can look it up for me, 510 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 6: I'm curious what denomination. I would just say, though this 511 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 6: is clearly a pastor, not a priest, I don't think 512 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: it's a Catholic church. If I were somebody who was 513 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 6: attending service in this place, I'd be very proud of 514 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 6: my pastor, because I think he handled it about as 515 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 6: well out as well as you possibly could. He was respectful, 516 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: but firm. He didn't get you know, he wasn't intimidated. 517 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: He made it clear they were not welcome there. And 518 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 6: so I'm just saying, if I were somebody who was 519 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 6: showing up in the pews to hear from this guy 520 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 6: every week. I would really think, you know that he 521 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: does care about his flock, as he put it, and 522 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 6: he does actually want to do the right thing by 523 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: his people who want to worship God with him. So 524 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: you know, I would be proud of him if I 525 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: were in that church or you know, in that congregation. 526 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 9: Uh. 527 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: In terms of the Face Act, I think it's a 528 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 6: flagrantly unconstitutional and preposterous law. In the first place, the 529 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: notion that there's some special protection for this one so 530 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: called medical procedure that if you, you know, slow somebody 531 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 6: down from getting their abortion, you can go to prison 532 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 6: for years is crazy. You know, it should be treated 533 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: like trespassing or whatever in any other context. There's because there, 534 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 6: as we know, there is no federal constitutional right to abortion. 535 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 6: So I wonder how this thing even continues. But they've 536 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: sent Clay under the Body administration. I think they send 537 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 6: someone to prison for nine years for a Face Act violation. 538 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 6: I mean they people aggressive long, yeah, a long time, 539 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 6: And this is a law that absolutely should not stand. 540 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 6: But it just goes to show you how much they 541 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: privilege on an ideological basis. If you block access to abortion, 542 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 6: you're treated like an al Qaeda terror. Remember block access, 543 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: like slow people down from getting around you. You're treated 544 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 6: like an al Qaeda terrorist. But if you do something 545 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: like this and you're really menacing and threatening people during 546 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 6: a church service, they'll expect nothing to happen. Byther It's 547 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 6: a Southern Baptist church, city's church. 548 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: So there you go, Clay. 549 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: That's where I was raised to back at home team 550 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: for Clay O back in the day, went to a 551 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of Southern Baptist church services. Never had protesters interrupt 552 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: our church service. One thing we didn't started, hands up, 553 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: don't shoot. They're still still saying this. Everyone knows that 554 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: that's not even what happens. The whole thing is a lie. 555 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: The whole thing is a is a figment of. 556 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: The left's imagination. 557 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: According to Eric Holder and Barack Obama and Barack Obama. 558 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: And all the black eye witnesses, there were black eye 559 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: witnesses that the DOJ. 560 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: Met with, talk to, got their statements. 561 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 6: And you know, Mike Brown had just robbed somebody, big 562 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 6: shock and then didn't want to deal with the cops, 563 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 6: and he charged an officer thinking that he could get 564 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: away with it, and he was wrong. 565 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that happened that's that's what the DOJ said. 566 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: The entire fabric of the beginning of BLM back in 567 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Ferguson was based on a why based on you know, 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: I have to take it from my word or Buck's word, 569 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: based on the Barack Obama Department of Justice which investigated it. 570 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: A bit of additional I actually think this is fascinating 571 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: and maybe there's people out there that are more experts 572 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: in this than I am. In fact, I'm sure there 573 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: are some people out there. There is a Facebook post 574 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: where the organizer of this protest thanks Don Lemon for 575 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: coming with them on the protest to what extent? And 576 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this. So I would 577 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: be fascinated to hear from people who may have prosecuted 578 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: or been involved in cases like these. If a journal 579 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: knows that something that violates the law is going to 580 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: occur and then accompanies the people who are violating the 581 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: law to chronicle it, does the journalists still have protection 582 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: legally because there's a difference. I would argue, again, this 583 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: is the lawyer in me, and if Don Lemmon is 584 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: just on the street and he sees somebody doing something, 585 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: in other words, you right. 586 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: This is the difference between an observer and a participant. Correct. 587 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 6: I've I've observed and reported on back in the day, 588 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: Occupy Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street, and many other left 589 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 6: wing protests as well. And I was standing there, not 590 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 6: blocking cops, not breaking laws, videoing and photoing what was 591 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 6: going on. 592 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: But I wasn't actively. 593 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: You know, it's you do cross this line where if 594 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 6: you're chanting with that, if you're a participant in it, 595 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 6: if you're holding a placard for them, are you you're 596 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 6: still a journalist? That This is where it gets Also. 597 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: If you know someone is going to commit a crime 598 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: in advance and you choose to follow them and in 599 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: some way participate, that's where that's where they become. 600 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: If you're if you're helping them in some way, that 601 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: becomes conspiracy. 602 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: Right. 603 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it's super fascinating. 604 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 6: But if you're just observing them, yeah, I think then 605 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 6: you have a you know, a right to be present 606 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 6: and observe. 607 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: But it gets in This is actually. 608 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Where don Lemon being a moron might work to his 609 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: defense because he might be able to argue I had 610 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: no idea storming a church was a violation of law. 611 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that I'd have to see. 612 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 6: Trespassing is the crime that they obviously commit the moment 613 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 6: they don't leave when they're told to leave. Now you're trespassing, right, 614 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 6: And we all this is like the very basis of 615 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 6: private property. If you can't tell someone who walks on 616 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: your lawn get off my lawn, you don't really own it. 617 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Right. 618 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 6: So, uh, I don't think that I think they could 619 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: argue Clay that because the church is open to all 620 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 6: their initial presence there and how long did they stay 621 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: in a violation of law? 622 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: Right, And now we're talking about trespassing. 623 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 6: Unless you're a J six trespasser, you're not treated like 624 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 6: al Qaeda, thrown in some horrible hell whole cell and 625 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 6: told that you're never going to see the light of dag. 626 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 6: And that's only for that's only for J six trespassing, 627 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 6: all other trespassing, trespassing in favor of pulling down the 628 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 6: pillars of Western civilization because you're upset that some Somalis 629 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 6: who are here illegally might get deported. The left loves 630 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 6: that that's the best kind of trespassing. 631 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, and again this is where you get into the 632 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: weeds on how exactly the law would be contextualized, and 633 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: what charges might be brought, and how it would be characterized. 634 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: I think Don Lemmon the fact that he's backtracking already 635 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, I didn't have any idea what was 636 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: going to happen, So you showed up in the parking 637 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: lot of a church and you didn't know where the 638 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: people in the parking lot of the church were headed. 639 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit tough of an argument 640 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: to make. But again, to what extended is a crime 641 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: I think is a legal, legal kind of art form. 642 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 6: Don Lemon was always an activist, not a journalist, though, 643 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: so and once you've kind of understand that it all 644 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 6: falls into place. To so many in this audience, family 645 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 6: is everything, and so are the magical memories you make 646 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 6: being together over the years. If your family was one 647 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 6: of the many legging around a video camera over twenty 648 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 6: years ago, like mine was, you've probably got a lot 649 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 6: of VHS cassettes that contain incredible gold memories. 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The mayor and governor have still 676 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: not said a word about this and Buck as we 677 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: are discussing right now, it appears that protesters have now 678 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: occupied and invaded a Target store, multiple Target stores in 679 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis area area, demanding ice be abolished. So if 680 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: you're on your way Minneapolis, I believe Target is based 681 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: in Minneapol. But if you are on your way to 682 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: a Target store in the Minneapolis area just trying to 683 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: buy things for your family, there now are crazy protesters 684 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: that have decided that they are going to take over 685 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: the Target store as well. We should mention Buck reports 686 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: that President Trump has fifteen hundred troops ready to be 687 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: called out and sent to Minneapolis at a moment's notice. 688 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: So things are not calming down in Minneapolis right now. 689 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: We will continue to follow this in real time with 690 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: all of you as these protests continue to spread. 691 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 6: Something interesting we're going to just throw into the mix 692 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 6: in the next hour. Clay is what we've learned about 693 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 6: Governor Shapiro's vetting process by the Kamala team to have 694 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 6: been the Walls category here a VP A few SAIDs 695 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 6: some things we'll talk about it,