Speaker 1: Uh speaking of power moves. Uh, my girlfriend is going
Speaker 1: to require me to remove this mustache after we record.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you just grew up for the for the record.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, sorry, baby, I gotta show you.
Speaker 1: I gotta show up. Guys. You knows.
Speaker 2: Exactly of all. Thank her for her sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, yeah, ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 1: For your service.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your man ma'am, Thank you for your service.
Speaker 2: I will stand up when she enters the room, so.
Speaker 3: We should take these hats off.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm geez sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the presence of greatness? How long has
Speaker 2: it been going on? Are you a fast grower?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we said, thank you, thank you for Uh
Speaker 1: how does why does that sound like the weirdest goddamn euphemism? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a fast grower, babe, you fast grower mustache. I
Speaker 1: can just focus real hard and have a mustache. By
Speaker 1: the end of this episode.
Speaker 3: That's all the veins popping out of your head.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four,
Speaker 2: oh three, Episode five of Dirty Guys. Ha ha ha
Speaker 2: h this production of iHeart Radios Podcasts. We're taking deep
Speaker 2: to have into American share consciousness. I was just talking
Speaker 2: about how my voice was like failing me this week.
Speaker 2: I've noticed, and if I get whatever RFK has from screaming,
Speaker 2: like they're just like, oh. The only thing that could
Speaker 2: explain this is if every day you just screamed in
Speaker 2: a weird German accent for like a couple of seconds.
Speaker 4: Except what you're screaming is probably a different type of
Speaker 4: German scream than what gave it to him.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, Yeah, we're happening in private meetings. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: it's Friday, August twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, last episode
Speaker 2: of August. I would assume, yeah, I don't think we're
Speaker 2: recording this weekend, and then it's a long weekend, so
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fucking March second, is that right?
Speaker 3: We come back, it might be March March second in
Speaker 3: like a lion out like a ham.
Speaker 2: My name is Jack O'Brien AKA. Now I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to be rude, but these vaccines be killing you the
Speaker 2: way Big Pharma trying to shoot whip feet us up
Speaker 2: and you it's the RFK, A mission hot and fresh
Speaker 2: pox transmission disease is coming from Bobby. Got every man
Speaker 2: in here twitch and that one courtesy of Charles on
Speaker 2: We Fromage on the Discord, and courtesy of Kylie Airs
Speaker 2: and paulvi Ganalon and our conversation yesterday where we somehow
Speaker 2: landed on the uber problematic character of R. S. Kelly.
Speaker 5: Sorry sorry, that's so good. Yeah, I'm so jealous of that.
Speaker 5: It's crazy Kelly is Yeah mine as well. Might as
Speaker 5: well throw them together. Also great name, Charles on Wei Fromage.
Speaker 5: I love the idea that the Ian French chuck e
Speaker 5: cheese stands for on whe or n y as I
Speaker 5: once pronounced that word on this show.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always, uh not
Speaker 2: as always thrilled to be joined. We made a personnel change,
Speaker 2: we made a that's right, I hit my right arm.
Speaker 1: You're mighty right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I could tell. I could tell. We
Speaker 2: ran into each other at the Open. I'm wearing a
Speaker 2: US Open hat that I bought there and a big
Speaker 2: foam finger that you are I bought there.
Speaker 3: You type so slowly now, because that's stupid.
Speaker 2: Finger throw to be joined in our second seat temporarily
Speaker 2: by a brilliant comedium writer, actor Coiner of the phrase
Speaker 2: plumpers to describe his jacked thighs. Autocorrect keeps trying to
Speaker 2: change it to plumbers because it knows that the word
Speaker 2: plumpers shouldn't exist. But it's like a curse from another dimension.
Speaker 4: Please welcome by and eyed Phil keeps coming through my
Speaker 4: screen every single type that word in.
Speaker 2: The brilliant, the hilarious, the riding of retcumbent bike in
Speaker 2: short shorts. It's Blake wax Lis. This is.
Speaker 6: I can't hear anything, all right, well, good, good, good good.
Speaker 3: It was a tear mar getting surgery without an anesthetic.
Speaker 1: Voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was our Kelly. Yeah it was Kelly. It
Speaker 3: was r F Kelly. Blake can explain what it was.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to know. Well, I'll sing it later,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Cool, It was just piano man. I was started playing
Speaker 3: Billy Joel's piano man.
Speaker 1: We can't clipped for the right, Yeah, we got Joel
Speaker 1: is all over it.
Speaker 2: Billy Joel is a time cop. He can come back
Speaker 2: from the future and.
Speaker 1: All he listens to this show to make sure we're
Speaker 1: not playing piano man.
Speaker 2: That's what he does.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 4: And finally, and he, by the way, has like spoam
Speaker 4: fingered sized fingers on each every single one of his
Speaker 4: fingers and that's how he plays the piano so well.
Speaker 2: He does have there's a new documentary about Billy Joel
Speaker 2: that is very long and also like it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of amazing how much it's like, you know, in like
Speaker 2: bad move like bad musician biopics where they'll be like,
Speaker 2: and I came to a crossroads, and that's when I
Speaker 2: wrote the song Crossroads. I'm I'm referring, of course, to
Speaker 2: the Bone Thugs and Harmony, a biopic which is way
Speaker 2: Billy Joel, though he keeps being like, so I was,
Speaker 2: you know, going to New York on the Hudson river line,
Speaker 2: and I wrote It's just like the things are so autobiographical,
Speaker 2: just like so directly ripped from his life. He's just
Speaker 2: like looking around him writing songs and he's like, so,
Speaker 2: I was at this bar where I was the man
Speaker 2: who played the piano, and he took some poetic license.
Speaker 1: And someone looked at me and said, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do with that piano? Man?
Speaker 2: Man, man, man, what are you doing here? It turns
Speaker 2: out they said that because I was there on the
Speaker 2: wrong night. Yes, anyways, I thought it was a good line,
Speaker 2: so I just recorded it into the song. But he
Speaker 2: does have in addition to giant foam fingers, he has
Speaker 2: a vape that is in the shape of a giant cigar.
Speaker 2: Did you notice that he's vaping the whole time? But
Speaker 2: like with a giant cigar that is just I don't know,
Speaker 2: like he's like, you know, what would actually be way
Speaker 2: cooler than vaping is smoking a cigar that is essentially a.
Speaker 3: Builda but with vape juice in it, not tobacco exactly,
Speaker 3: not the thing people smoke cigars because, you know it,
Speaker 3: like cigars are only enjoyed because of how thick and
Speaker 3: brown they are.
Speaker 1: Yea, you know, act like yeah take that freud.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
Speaker 2: but like sometimes you're going out of your way to
Speaker 2: like make it a cigar even though it doesn't have
Speaker 2: any like it doesn't need to be a cigar at all.
Speaker 2: You just like want a big brown dick shaped thing
Speaker 2: in your mouth. Anyways, who does not among who among us?
Speaker 2: Blake who among us? We're thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 2: our third seat Blake by a writer, one of the
Speaker 2: best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm from stuff they don't want you to know, you know,
Speaker 2: from ridiculous history missing in Arizona. It's Ben Bully.
Speaker 1: You got Ben bull I don't know how long we're
Speaker 1: going to go, but thank you for segueing to the
Speaker 1: intro from talking about smoking cigars, right, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of big things in your mouth, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: a guest for today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa the original, big big brown dick shaped thing
Speaker 2: in your mouth. It's Ben Bullers.
Speaker 1: That's what my mother always said.
Speaker 2: Actually.
Speaker 3: To wake you up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would shake me as a child. What's up
Speaker 1: you guys. It's It's fantastic to hang out. It's phenomenal. Uh,
Speaker 1: to see you all again. I was running a little
Speaker 1: bit late, which Jack you described as a power move,
Speaker 1: and thank you. It was on purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, and growing and being a grower fast we.
Speaker 2: Are, ye, So this is something that we should just
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, in the room. Right. Ben has
Speaker 2: a very impressive mustache right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That yeah, how's it going? Oh my god, Blake, Blake.
Speaker 1: I thought Jack was doing a bit while we were
Speaker 1: off air. No, you're serious about this. Okay, We're going
Speaker 1: on the air with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I, uh, you don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk about it, I didn't
Speaker 2: like you, you know, if you I just am very
Speaker 2: curious how long it took, because very fast. I doesn't
Speaker 2: want to do this, but this is the eleventh time
Speaker 2: I'm asking. Okay, yeah, yeah, a journalistic trick where I
Speaker 2: will just sit here in silence and wait for you
Speaker 2: to answer my questions. Love that trick.
Speaker 1: I think it will always work. And what could go wrong? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just got back from some time on the road
Speaker 1: and I did that thing that every grown man does
Speaker 1: when you have a beard, and I went through while shaving,
Speaker 1: I went through all the different pursuonas I could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the permutations perfect defining facial hair. So this probably took
Speaker 1: about a week and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, very very impressive. That is really that is really
Speaker 2: a really strong week and a half.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I can't grow chest hair. I have like three
Speaker 1: So you think it all just goes through your face.
Speaker 1: I think it all goes through the face.
Speaker 2: Got rerouted all through your face, all your chest hair growth.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a hair transplant from your upper chest.
Speaker 2: But then in the exact pattern of the upper mustache.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for sharing it with us. I know
Speaker 2: you said that going away very soon, but you know
Speaker 2: you're a hero, and so is your girlfriend for letting
Speaker 2: you like keep it for this length of time.
Speaker 1: Oh right, negotiation facial hair negotiations are ongoing, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take would never cook, Yeah, I would really. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been married for seventeen years and it is exclusively
Speaker 2: because I haven't. I haven't gone back to you know,
Speaker 2: my interest in growing mustaches early days.
Speaker 1: If I may, like justin let us witness Jack O'Brien here,
Speaker 1: no offense, man, my guy, you look like you get
Speaker 1: a four thirty PM shadow after shaving. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: look like it grows pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a lunch lunchtime shadow. It grows,
Speaker 2: it grows fast. Yeah I can. I could focus really
Speaker 2: hard and have a mustache by the end of this recording.
Speaker 1: Just a vague popping out on and Blake. You've got
Speaker 1: the you've got the scientifically proven best form of facial hair,
Speaker 1: which is stubble. Right, you got like you got like
Speaker 1: the generous stubble which yeah it guys.
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, it's the facial hair that like I feel
Speaker 2: like every famous guy has, like in a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like I like, kind of I guess I haven't shaved,
Speaker 2: but it's like so metigulous and it's like long and
Speaker 2: very tight. Yeah, exactly, Like, huh, that's interesting. You haven't
Speaker 2: shaved like one part of your face in a while
Speaker 2: while other parts. But is that a natural growth?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, figure I wax my f laser. There's there are
Speaker 2: lasers and wax, and that's sick.
Speaker 3: It's all right, that's h well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get a letter from the Serbian Wax Guild
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, guys, yeah, s w G is
Speaker 1: a centuries old organization. We do not appreciate being uh
Speaker 1: mis portrayed this way. However, if Blake Wexler would like
Speaker 1: uh to get you know what I'm thinking now, I've
Speaker 1: talked this into free tickets to Serbia.
Speaker 3: Blake waxl Yes, great basketball team, great Waxler.
Speaker 2: Blake Waxler is what I said. All Right, you win,
Speaker 2: always win. I just want to make sure you heard that.
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna get to know you a little bit
Speaker 2: better the moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners about
Speaker 2: some of the fun news that we're gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about today. Hey, speaking of R F. Kelly, things not
Speaker 2: going well for Old America. Uh. From our Canadian writer
Speaker 2: Jam McNab, I feel like this could have only this
Speaker 2: description of this story couldn't have been written by someone
Speaker 2: in America because he just opened it up with well
Speaker 2: that's not good ellipses. Yeah. Just weeks after being confirmed
Speaker 2: CDC head Susan Minaras has been fired for being too
Speaker 2: vaccine friendly, So we're gonna talk about that. There's also
Speaker 2: some stuff happening with food safety. Have you guys do
Speaker 2: you guys do that?
Speaker 1: Do you eat food?
Speaker 2: Because yeah, yeah, yeah, Why is there something if you
Speaker 2: leave it out for a while or don't go to
Speaker 2: something food that.
Speaker 4: People look out for that, right, Like don't isn't there
Speaker 4: people who are supposed to make sure we're.
Speaker 2: There is an invisible network that we hadn't paid much
Speaker 2: attention to up to this point, constantly monitoring food and
Speaker 2: then like when there is an outbreak of equal I
Speaker 2: they would address, they would go out and take it
Speaker 2: off the shelves. They would also tell us about it
Speaker 2: in a way that I always found I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to pay attention, but like
Speaker 2: it sounds like you guys are taking care of it,
Speaker 2: then you.
Speaker 1: Guys got it.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing with the FAA planes, where it's like, right,
Speaker 4: I never really thought about planes until this administration. There's
Speaker 4: just things that we keep taking for granted that seem
Speaker 4: fucking simple and givens, but it just keeps coming up.
Speaker 2: All right, well, so we can't givens.
Speaker 1: Robin I like to call it the I like to
Speaker 1: call it the worst good news situation, where you know,
Speaker 1: you get that official announcement that a thing you haven't
Speaker 1: heard of has decided there will be less than four
Speaker 1: grams of rat feces in cereal that are now on.
Speaker 2: Guys, we've made a big, big break. Oh you know
Speaker 2: all that rat shit you've been eating.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton because they're
Speaker 2: remaking The Wizard of Oz as we've been begging them
Speaker 2: to do, so we'll talk about that and just uh,
Speaker 2: you might not realize it, but Gwen Stefani is kind
Speaker 2: of full mega. Now I don't know, like full mega,
Speaker 2: but she's like a straight up conservative and apparently has
Speaker 2: them for a while all that plenty more, But first, Ben,
Speaker 2: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 2: from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1: Sperm, whale, phonetic alphabet?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? I like you just you stopped listening. You
Speaker 2: you're listening, but you stopped after sperm based on your right,
Speaker 2: based on the noise you made you creep? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So do you guys have pets? Do you
Speaker 1: like animals or are you monsters? Or what's going on?
Speaker 2: Like you're coming at us like you're introducing the concept
Speaker 2: of animals to you.
Speaker 3: You can own an animal.
Speaker 2: That sucks? Yeah, well, I love whales specifically, and I'm
Speaker 2: becoming more interested in animals and what's going on there?
Speaker 2: What's that with them? As I get older?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, guys, this is the thing working on
Speaker 1: a couple of recent recent episodes about the question of
Speaker 1: can people talk with animals? You know, we know humans
Speaker 1: are animals. They're just kind of stuck up, right, But
Speaker 1: instead of talking at or two, your pooch, your dogg o,
Speaker 1: your furd feathered or scaly friend, can you speak with them?
Speaker 1: Can there be an equal peer to peer conversation or discourse?
Speaker 1: This turns out to be pretty crazy because a lot
Speaker 1: of the research is under fire, right, Like Coco the
Speaker 1: Gorilla is a famous example, or Alex the African gray parrot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought we were like having conversations about Coco with
Speaker 2: Coco the Gorilla.
Speaker 1: Right this podcast, right right, Yeah, because uh, you guys
Speaker 1: bumped to Robin Williams, I think, and mister Rogers is.
Speaker 2: Robin Williams Coca the Gorilla finding out Robin Williams.
Speaker 1: Dot Yeah, that's apparently a bit of a confirmation bias
Speaker 1: on the behalf of the very well intentioned scientists. No, honestly, however,
Speaker 1: I'm waving my hand like I can just sort of say,
Speaker 1: these are not the droids you're looking for. Whatever. What
Speaker 1: we did find was that in recent quite recent years,
Speaker 1: researchers have leveraged large language models algorithms AI per will
Speaker 1: Smith to analyze the communication of different types of cetacean,
Speaker 1: specifically sperm whales, and it turns out that they might
Speaker 1: have a language. So my search history is fucking rocked
Speaker 1: and ruined because I had to put the word sperm
Speaker 1: into all these research to things and our buddy somewhere
Speaker 1: at the n Essay is like, okay, sperm whale, sure, man,
Speaker 1: all right, but whales might be able, might have a
Speaker 1: language that humans can translate and maybe maybe talk with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sperm whales must be even harder to study because
Speaker 4: they live so deep in the ocean, right, Like, it
Speaker 4: must be hard to listen to them. I'm saying that
Speaker 4: as if I'm concerned. God, this is gonna be so
Speaker 4: much work going into this.
Speaker 2: Well, they got to come up sometime. That's what I
Speaker 2: always say. I'm a whaler, I should say that I whales,
Speaker 2: and so I just sit there at the surface with
Speaker 2: a harpoon saying the sometime brother Millville.
Speaker 1: Of podcasts, Yeah, they call you.
Speaker 2: That's so, that's wild that the so when the apes
Speaker 2: were doing sign language, was it like the uh like
Speaker 2: sign language interpreters who will go behind a speech and like,
Speaker 2: actually not no sign language and just be doing like
Speaker 2: and we just assume they're actually doing it when just
Speaker 2: because we don't speak sign language or happen.
Speaker 1: Those folks who are on the forefront of comedy, yes cough,
Speaker 1: they could never.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Secondly, you are absolutely correct. The controversy goes into the
Speaker 1: concept of interpretation, right like clever Hans, the world's most
Speaker 1: famous math horse.
Speaker 2: The math horse, I've heard is purely just like they
Speaker 2: were looking at their owner or like the human that
Speaker 2: they knew, and like interpreting their faces. That's what they
Speaker 2: want me to say.
Speaker 7: Clop clop clop clop. Ver, Clever, I've never heard of
Speaker 7: this thing. You never heard all my favorite things. Clever
Speaker 7: Hans the math horse is like a drug, Like you
Speaker 7: just gave me a hallucinogenic drug by saying those words.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Clever has the math Horse?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tap out of this one, got it,
Speaker 3: It's too much for me.
Speaker 2: That'd be a great nickname that like for a boxer. Yes,
Speaker 2: Clever Hans the math Horse. It can be Clever Hans
Speaker 2: or math Horse.
Speaker 4: You can't be so greedy that you have Clever Hans
Speaker 4: math hords.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you would have to be very good
Speaker 1: at boxing to support that moniker.
Speaker 2: Iron Clever Hans the math.
Speaker 3: Yes, this boxer keeps kicking us with his hind legs.
Speaker 1: Guys, do you think he knows that he's boxing or
Speaker 1: is he just looking at his trainer for ques? Uh so? Yeah.
Speaker 1: The controversy, as we learned with Coco in particular and
Speaker 1: with other primate experiments, was that people thought she could
Speaker 1: understand something like two thousand spoken words in English and
Speaker 1: communicate them through some version of sign language that I'm
Speaker 1: making up here. And the idea then became that she
Speaker 1: was able to connect words to make concepts, which is
Speaker 1: a very human type of communication. So she might know
Speaker 1: the word for trash and then the word for cat,
Speaker 1: and then you'd show her a raccoon and she would say, oh,
Speaker 1: trash cat, and people are like, that's you're fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: That's so smart. She's basically a poet. That's actually what
Speaker 2: we should call raccoons.
Speaker 1: And well, the the that's the search history. It's ruined.
Speaker 1: Sperm alphabet. Yeah, it's it's over for me, you guys.
Speaker 2: Sperm alphabet done.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've heard I've read like studies Okay, I listen to
Speaker 2: them on the podcast about like prairie voles being or
Speaker 2: prairie dogs, one of the prairie animals having pretty complex
Speaker 2: or like easy to decode languages, and like that they
Speaker 2: were able to like figure out that one of them
Speaker 2: was like for color, so like somebody they'd be like, okay,
Speaker 2: yellow guy coming and red guy coming. And it's all
Speaker 2: chirps does Yeah, it's little chirps. But they they were
Speaker 2: able to record an off of them and get a
Speaker 2: sense of like they had words for, like attack from above,
Speaker 2: and you know red shirt got attack from red shirt guys.
Speaker 3: From red shirt guy attacked a shirt guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the scientists maybe should have stopped attacking them. I
Speaker 2: feel like not good science. All right, let's take a
Speaker 2: quick break. We'll be back to talk overrated, underrated, and
Speaker 2: why we're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back. I still that still goes. It started
Speaker 2: start a zoom call with a friend or maybe a
Speaker 2: new acquaintance or yeah, always it still still works. The
Speaker 2: great podcaster Matt Appadaka, who we now work with, has
Speaker 2: really shown me them he's gonna I'm making it sound
Speaker 2: like he was the first person to do I think
Speaker 2: I started doing it, but he approved it, and that's
Speaker 2: that's huge. I don't want to just smirch his good name.
Speaker 1: That guy's name sounds like a spell.
Speaker 2: It is it is it is, actually, yeah, he is.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a Harry Potter. I don't know Harry
Speaker 2: Potter well enough to make a reference, so I just
Speaker 2: said it's a Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: Then maybe shut your mouth, maybe shut your your muggle mouth.
Speaker 2: Water you don't swim well enough to tread or somebody
Speaker 2: ben what's something he thinks underrated for right now?
Speaker 1: Mustaches? We uh we scooped ourselves a bit in the beginning. Uh,
Speaker 1: but we spent some time pissing off our producer off
Speaker 1: air because I have a mustache that my girlfriend is
Speaker 1: clowning me so hard about. I did the grown think,
Speaker 1: you know, I shaved and went through, as you said, Jack,
Speaker 1: the permutations, and I got a oh I got I
Speaker 1: got told that I look I get roasted heart. So
Speaker 1: I got told I look so Belgian that I might
Speaker 1: do like Belgium. I have specific opinions about chocolate, French
Speaker 1: fries and King Leopold.
Speaker 2: Uh and worst of all, Yeah, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: a wide mustache. It does. You could be wearing a
Speaker 2: like old timey one piece bathing costume in that mustache.
Speaker 2: I feel like and lifting like a bar barbell then
Speaker 2: has round weights on the edg end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or triangle it, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of what I'm picturing. It does. It
Speaker 2: does like kind of change your vibe in a fun way.
Speaker 2: I do like it. I like I like non mustache Ben. Also,
Speaker 2: you know I don't.
Speaker 1: That's kind you know, next time I'll go whatever the
Speaker 1: old Old Testament thing is where it's the beard without
Speaker 1: the mustache and it's just like the what's that what's
Speaker 1: that called the chin strap thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, chin strap neck beard, old chin strap neck beard.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a specific Amish or Mormon name
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, that sounds fancier. You've come to the
Speaker 1: right place if you want the name for the Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gonside general.
Speaker 1: Side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does feel it feels civil worrying that one.
Speaker 2: What is something, Ben, do you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Le boo boo? Are you guys familiar with those.
Speaker 2: Boo they're making the greatest leboo boo? Yeah, we're we're
Speaker 2: familiar as people who have a podcast about the zeitgeist. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we've been aware of this one.
Speaker 1: So I was. I was overseas recently, and uh, the
Speaker 1: the l booboo thing was again, like, you know, let's
Speaker 1: be honest with this mustache. I look at the guy.
Speaker 1: I look like the guy who has a cop at
Speaker 1: the protest trying to be cool, you know, like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you would be you would be really kick ass if
Speaker 1: we all exchange names, addresses and you know, like places
Speaker 1: we go routinely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so with that tricks.
Speaker 1: So he's he's uh, he's real plugged in. Uh, I
Speaker 1: am very plugged out. I learned about the Boo boo
Speaker 1: like anybody else who was uncool, by getting yelled at
Speaker 1: about it by people cooler than me. And I realized
Speaker 1: there is this global conspiracy of people carrying around the
Speaker 1: boo boos and they're like fucking freemasons.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: They just nodded each other. They have a hanging from
Speaker 1: like their bags or their backpacks. And then and I
Speaker 1: don't know if they have a secret handshake, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know how deep this goes, but I do think
Speaker 1: it's overrated.
Speaker 2: And you said the pronunciation of it in particular.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I added pronunciation as overrated because you said
Speaker 1: you one time pronounced on we Oh yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: another thing I think is overrated. Pronunciation. Yeah, pronunciations, pronunciation
Speaker 1: in general over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, we have learned from super producer
Speaker 2: Catherine that the beard no mustache is called the whaler
Speaker 2: appropriately and the Whaler Melville. So I guess I gotta
Speaker 2: see what that looks like. I think that that was
Speaker 2: a type of facial hair that I experimented with a
Speaker 2: young No, Mike, yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was more.
Speaker 2: It was like pre when I could grow a full beard.
Speaker 2: So it's just like sha Shaggy with whiskers. Shaggy Whispers
Speaker 2: is what I.
Speaker 1: Wanted to Shaggy Whispers versus the math Horse.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Shaggy Whispers is my uh slash fiction about
Speaker 2: the Scooby Doo universe. Yeah, yeah, a tell all book.
Speaker 2: Shaggy Whispers. That's all right, let's uh should we get
Speaker 2: into the the old Well that's not good. Update of
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I yeah, but.
Speaker 2: What you want to hear from a doctor and also
Speaker 2: you know the opening line of a news story written
Speaker 2: by a Canadian about your country. Well that's not good. Yes. So,
Speaker 2: just weeks after being confirmed CDC head Susan Mineraz has
Speaker 2: been fired. She was initially asked to resign but refused
Speaker 2: and was fired by HHS, which I guess she was like,
Speaker 2: I can't really be fired by them. I would need
Speaker 2: to be fired by the president and he was like, okay, right,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you remember who the president
Speaker 2: iscause it's kind of my thing. It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, lebbye.
Speaker 2: So she was fired because Susan Minariras is not aligned
Speaker 2: with the president's agenda of making America healthy again. And
Speaker 2: this was because she wouldn't quote rubber stamp vaccine recommendations.
Speaker 2: That quote flew in the face of science, which is bad.
Speaker 2: Like we we had a centeni it might be coming.
Speaker 2: It's it's just going in a real worst case scenario direction.
Speaker 2: With RFK Junior as the head of we had a sense,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, putting this, putting a guy who
Speaker 2: was a vaccine skeptic kind of famously that was what
Speaker 2: he was famous for, putting him into are of healthcare
Speaker 2: for the entire country, that that could go badly, and
Speaker 2: it seems like things are going very badly. Several other
Speaker 2: CDC senior officials have resigned as a result this. I'm
Speaker 2: somewhere between can't these fucking idiots do a single thing right?
Speaker 2: And can't these fucking idiots do a single thing that
Speaker 2: isn't exactly the wrongest thing you could possibly do? At
Speaker 2: that moment, you know, like it's like I'm not even
Speaker 2: asking that they do it right. It's like just that
Speaker 2: they not be fucking like just exactly wrong seeking missiles.
Speaker 1: That's the issue, right, How at what threshold, past what
Speaker 1: threshold does incompetence become intentional malevolence?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like? How randomly can one fandom?
Speaker 2: That's my reaction to this.
Speaker 3: This is so random, you guys, This is random.
Speaker 1: We are winning the lottery of bad choices.
Speaker 2: You know, in college, a lot of the girls I
Speaker 2: do would like to refer to things as random, and
Speaker 2: I think that is the funniest way to possibly refer
Speaker 2: to this whole Oh my god, this presidency is so random.
Speaker 2: Randy Randosa, one of them, would say, and that person
Speaker 2: is a gene Whoever came up with Randy Randosa is
Speaker 2: a genie?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Gin, but uh yeah, I don't know that. We also
Speaker 2: learned this week that they're scaling back food safety monitors
Speaker 2: finally for food born diseasing. You've been pushing for this
Speaker 2: for a while. Then talk on that about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you upped in Sinclair. Yeah, you know how it
Speaker 1: is you walk through a grocery store. Why shouldn't it
Speaker 1: be a casino. You know what I mean. I'm an
Speaker 1: Isle twelve. I'm in Isle eleven. We got some canned stuff?
Speaker 1: Is it beans? Let roll the goddamn dice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, splash guards are fucking constricting. I want the food
Speaker 3: sitting out.
Speaker 4: I want nothing to stop my spit, my clean American spit,
Speaker 4: from getting on this food that I don't know how
Speaker 4: long it's been out for. It's none of my business,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 1: If we needed to guard the food, let's put the
Speaker 1: National Guard there.
Speaker 2: We guard this clear plastic yes, more National Guard.
Speaker 1: That National Guard the only, uh, the only protection against
Speaker 1: the salad with a bad with some con it's a
Speaker 1: National Guard member.
Speaker 2: Sound good? Sound good?
Speaker 1: Justin? Please fix that in post.
Speaker 2: Right, That's easily fixable. Right, heyst could you make me
Speaker 2: sound smart and sane? Thanks very much? Could you sound
Speaker 2: like less like I'm on the verge of just buckling
Speaker 2: under the pressure of our collapsing society? Thanks Justine, Justin.
Speaker 1: Thanks Justin. CDC is in Atlanta. So this is uh,
Speaker 1: this is a matter of local import right with with
Speaker 1: I would argue, of course national, but indeed global consequences right.
Speaker 2: Whipples replacing it with a bass pro shop Yeah, another
Speaker 2: feeling they could like redesign the CDC to like have
Speaker 2: more of a bass pro shop vibe to live there.
Speaker 1: Now, Ye when you guys have him on the show,
Speaker 1: he'll be like, fun fact about me my house used
Speaker 1: to be. Do you guys remember the Center for Disease
Speaker 1: Control and Prevention.
Speaker 3: Remember back then?
Speaker 2: So just a little bit more on the food, the
Speaker 2: food stuff, because this is one of those things that
Speaker 2: is like fairly invisible. Like a lot a lot of
Speaker 2: the jobs that are being taken away and like you know,
Speaker 2: the government spending that's being cut. Are these things that
Speaker 2: are like just don't get any attention, and like Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is only cares about things that get ratings, and
Speaker 2: so these are the invisible you know, scaffolding behind the
Speaker 2: scenes that like saves people's lives. And it just under
Speaker 2: a Trump administration where you know, as we talked about
Speaker 2: in the run up to the election, like the scary
Speaker 2: thing about this second administration the first administration he like
Speaker 2: you remember that first meeting with Obama where he was
Speaker 2: like what the fuck just happened? And he seems scared,
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm gonna let the professionals handle
Speaker 2: this one. Like I kind of did this as a joke,
Speaker 2: and it took him a while to like ramp up
Speaker 2: his indignation about not being able to like, you know,
Speaker 2: do whatever he wanted. And now he is doing whatever
Speaker 2: he wants, and it's he's not meant to lead a
Speaker 2: complicated government that is saving many people's lives in very
Speaker 2: boring ways. He's just like he doesn't have the attention
Speaker 2: span for it. So, you know, the doctor Jay Glenn Morris,
Speaker 2: whose name I don't know, never wanted to know, the
Speaker 2: director of Emerging Pathogen Institute at the University of Florida,
Speaker 2: is you know, making sense of this and has said
Speaker 2: that he helped create food Net in nineteen ninety five
Speaker 2: and we've been benefiting from it unknowingly for the past
Speaker 2: however many years it's been since nineteen ninety five, I've
Speaker 2: got to think at least fifteen fifteens. Anyways, he said, essentially,
Speaker 2: CDC is backing off one of their best surveillance systems.
Speaker 2: And this article that is in I think it's like
Speaker 2: on CBS dot com, but it just keeps adding there like,
Speaker 2: which is bad because in April, Reuter's reported that the
Speaker 2: Food and Drug Administration was suspending a quality control program
Speaker 2: for testing dairy product. A week before that, Renters reported
Speaker 2: that the Trump administration was suspending a quality control program
Speaker 2: for its food testing laboratories as a result of staff cuts.
Speaker 2: That news came two weeks after, and it just keeps
Speaker 2: going with the Department of Health and Human Services announced
Speaker 2: wide ranging cutbacks at federal health agencies, including scientists who
Speaker 2: tested food and drugs for contamination of or deadly bacteria.
Speaker 2: That news came two weeks after The Times reported the
Speaker 2: FDA delayed by nearly three years implementation of a requirement.
Speaker 2: And this is kind of a harsh requirement, Like this
Speaker 2: is anti business, all right, When I explain it, you'll
Speaker 2: understand why they had to cut a requirement that food
Speaker 2: companies and gross is rapidly trace contaminated food through the
Speaker 2: supply chain and pull it off the shelves. Okay, brother,
Speaker 2: let's not go crazy here.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right? Or well, yeah, The day.
Speaker 2: Before that, the Times published the newspaper ran a related
Speaker 2: article that at the FDA freeze on government credit card spending.
Speaker 2: They were just like they froze the FDA's credit cards
Speaker 2: that they used to like fund their research. They froze that.
Speaker 2: So they could no longer staff. It impeded staff members
Speaker 2: from buying food to perform routine tests for deadly bacteria.
Speaker 4: So like they were they my wife freezing credit cards?
Speaker 4: I know what the hell right, let me spend.
Speaker 2: That's my draft King's credit card.
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, did you not think about the cash back?
Speaker 2: The list keeps going. The Times also reported that the
Speaker 2: administration has sloughed or stopped some food testing of grocery
Speaker 2: adams for hazardous bacteria, monitoring monitoring of shellfish. So so far,
Speaker 2: the specific ones that they've stopped monitoring are dairy and shellfish.
Speaker 1: You got to them, those are the two.
Speaker 2: Those are two of the ones that I want somebody
Speaker 2: to keep it an eye on. I feel like, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, just to be clear, we are doing gallows humor.
Speaker 1: There is no whistle like your graveyard whistle. So I
Speaker 1: think it's safe to say that we are fans of
Speaker 1: this kind of infrastructure. It's kind of like how if
Speaker 1: you're a human, you don't notice that your heart is
Speaker 1: beating all the time right until it's not, and that's
Speaker 1: when you run into a problem.
Speaker 2: This kind of stuff is, man, you just thinking about
Speaker 2: it your head.
Speaker 1: Don't get in your head about it. What's happening? I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Anytime. If you want to know what it was like
Speaker 2: to smoke weed with me, the answers we do and
Speaker 2: it's going too fast.
Speaker 1: Think it's going to fast.
Speaker 2: See everything I can't tell you can deep enough breath?
Speaker 1: Do my hands? Are? They are? They are? They are?
Speaker 2: They have my head?
Speaker 1: But this is this is pretty pretty concerning, and I
Speaker 1: don't I obviously, I don't think any of us want
Speaker 1: to feel like a baton death march or whatever. But
Speaker 1: the the stuff that is getting cut, I think really
Speaker 1: speaks to you guys idea about incompetence versus malevolence, Like
Speaker 1: how can you be that specifically bad at innocuous things
Speaker 1: that often.
Speaker 2: I think I yesterday we were talking about this thing
Speaker 2: that Trump's doing with the with environmental policy, where he's
Speaker 2: like keeps saying, well, windmills like don't work when the
Speaker 2: wind stops blowing, and the you know you can't have
Speaker 2: energy proofs by women, and like really and like the
Speaker 2: windmills are killing whales, and like these things that seem
Speaker 2: really dumb and like have no scientific backing, but they
Speaker 2: come from a bunch of research, like millions of dollars
Speaker 2: of research being done by the smartest people, Like the
Speaker 2: smartest Ivy League graduates all come out, and the jobs
Speaker 2: that pay the most are like going to work for
Speaker 2: oil companies and doing research on like how to counter
Speaker 2: program like messaging about climate change, how to react, how
Speaker 2: to redact research. I'm a professional redactor. I make nine
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year. So like there's all this
Speaker 2: energy and money being put into whatever is going to
Speaker 2: make the most money in that case, like getting rid
Speaker 2: of any environmental policies that stand in the way of
Speaker 2: oil companies making as much money as they possibly can.
Speaker 2: And I think with shit like this, where like these
Speaker 2: policies get in the way of food companies being able
Speaker 2: to make as much money as they want to, and
Speaker 2: they're like annoying to food companies to have to like
Speaker 2: pay attention to this shit. So all the stuff that
Speaker 2: seems like malevolence is just them doing the you know,
Speaker 2: taking away of any policies that get in the way
Speaker 2: of companies, you know, getting the way of money like
Speaker 2: flowing as quickly and you know, frictionlessly as possible to
Speaker 2: the biggest corporations. Like I think that's where all of
Speaker 2: this is coming.
Speaker 1: From, regularly recapture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And another scary thing too at getting
Speaker 4: back to is it Manaras Is that how you pronounced Susan's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going I heard a newscaster
Speaker 2: say it that way, and that's what we're going with.
Speaker 4: That's what we're that's what That's what Wolfe said. So
Speaker 4: that's that's the same who you can't stop watching. But
Speaker 4: my favorite, that's the scariest thing is that she is
Speaker 4: someone who's fucked up enough for Trump to be okay
Speaker 4: to appoint to that position to begin with, and this
Speaker 4: person E won't even this is a bridge too far.
Speaker 2: And what they're asking her to do a Trump appointee.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, that's gonna like be so bad, right,
Speaker 2: Like obviously I can't do that. And they're like, well
Speaker 2: then you're fired.
Speaker 4: If this is not a holdover from like the Jimmy Carter, No, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is fresh, this is a fresh hire. I take
Speaker 4: a D plus at this point, like you said, like
Speaker 4: like a heat seeking missile for like being wrong. It's
Speaker 4: not even like we're asking for an A plus, you know,
Speaker 4: because that's impossible it's like anything but an f minus.
Speaker 2: Like if you can get a deep atander, it's possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But well, I think we're inside a system that has
Speaker 2: been fucked by unregulated capitalism for decades and decades, and
Speaker 2: so anything that is just worsening that is going to
Speaker 2: seem like it's exactly the wrong thing, because it is.
Speaker 2: It's exactly the worst possible thing that could happen to
Speaker 2: the country at this point. But because our options are
Speaker 2: either the existing market driven thing that everybody we now
Speaker 2: have like three decades where people are like no more
Speaker 2: of that, and you know, there's no opportunity for socialism
Speaker 2: or like they'll find a way to like try and
Speaker 2: fight that way. So there's no like official version of
Speaker 2: like a left wing opposition. The only other option is fascism,
Speaker 2: and so that's what we now have, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the final resort right of fear. I think also DearS
Speaker 2: I gained how the US slipped from descriptions of civilians
Speaker 2: to consumers.
Speaker 1: You hear that often right? What happened to the pension?
Speaker 1: It became the four oh one K, which comprises no
Speaker 1: less than forty percent of the stock market. Let me look, sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I stumbled on this soapbox. Let me step off this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get up there, careful, careful, careful, careful.
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, Well we're speaking to the choir while those
Speaker 1: are still allowed right in modern day America. And how
Speaker 1: weird is that's actually the US.
Speaker 3: We're going to have it's choirs.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, your universal basic income, you will
Speaker 2: have to go sing in the choir.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, full handmade's tale. But how could this,
Speaker 1: how could this be a thing we cut? Like who
Speaker 1: learns about the idea of food born illness and says,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man kind of.
Speaker 2: Corporations whose jobs for whom it is expensive to not
Speaker 2: do food born illnesses? I think those are the people.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but that would be my that would be
Speaker 2: my assumption, because yeah, it does. It does seem almost
Speaker 2: like when you're just viewing it out of context, is
Speaker 2: like it seems weird that they keep doing exactly the
Speaker 2: wrong thing, like on purpose. But yeah, the vaccine thing,
Speaker 2: I don't like that. That one's just like ideologically driven incorrect,
Speaker 2: is going to kill a lot of people in a
Speaker 2: way that like seems like it's pretty going to be
Speaker 2: pretty transparently their fault but this that's not going to help.
Speaker 3: It seems to me where this is always to your point,
Speaker 3: it's either business and money or quote unquote traditional values.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to push actually back against you, Jack,
Speaker 3: where I think this is a traditional values thing where
Speaker 3: they want to get back to the era of getting
Speaker 3: so sick whenever you eat, you know, like ray and
Speaker 3: then like have a doctor travel by foot from.
Speaker 4: Ye blood letting, like we need to bring back blood letting,
Speaker 4: make America a.
Speaker 2: Make America die from diarrhea again, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, diarrhea death.
Speaker 1: By diarrhea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, MySpace dot com slash diarrhea death happens.
Speaker 1: I love it, my Space diary. But this is how it.
Speaker 1: This is how what happens. It's never going to be
Speaker 1: a full frontal thing. It's going to be some infra
Speaker 1: nation management on you know whatever your local favorite Fox
Speaker 1: news is where someone uh someone says, hey, uh this
Speaker 1: just in toilet paper prices are through the roof, which
Speaker 1: has a lot of people talking about whether diarrhea is
Speaker 1: good for you. We're going now to the last doctor
Speaker 1: or just the last doctor final the last doctor.
Speaker 2: By the way, many people die of diarrhea every year,
Speaker 2: I should say especially young children.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's going to be more Yeah, it should
Speaker 2: be more common. It should be a thing that we're
Speaker 2: all talking about. You know, that's the issue, because it's funny,
Speaker 2: and that'll be funny. That'll make things funny, make them
Speaker 2: and unavoidable. Can we avoid this? We're making We're making
Speaker 2: comedy legal again, folks.
Speaker 1: Make America go fa again.
Speaker 4: You can't say anything anymore. We'll be right back. You're
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Speaker 2: I was waiting for it.
Speaker 4: Ninety three point three wm R. That's Philadelphia radio station,
Speaker 4: who which I do get money every time I promote
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 2: And we are back, Blake, how did it feel to
Speaker 2: take us to break God?
Speaker 3: I think I made Tommy John's after throwing the commercial
Speaker 3: so far hurt my HOPO.
Speaker 1: Up, I'll say it, I'll say it. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not too proud. Blake. You look taller, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I feel so tall. I feel taller. Have you guys
Speaker 2: met anybody who seems like they got a lot taller
Speaker 2: in adulthood and you think that they might have gotten
Speaker 2: that Lake breaking surgery.
Speaker 1: The gattigo surgery.
Speaker 2: The were they one person who I met at I
Speaker 2: saw the reunion and was like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck did they really? I don't know.
Speaker 2: They would never admit it, but they are. They went
Speaker 2: from being I think, like a normal sized person to
Speaker 2: like officially a full on, like tall tall person, where
Speaker 2: like the first thing you notice is like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: like tall. You stand out in a crowd over everybody else.
Speaker 1: Look at the shoes.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time looking at them. It
Speaker 2: was all Unfortunately, it was all I talked about the
Speaker 2: whole reunion, and everybody was like, all right, man, like
Speaker 2: could you buddy, maybe you should start drinking again.
Speaker 3: See CTV footage and it's just like Jack staring at
Speaker 3: like a clown that they hired on stilts and it's like,
Speaker 3: for a Jack, Jesus, this person.
Speaker 2: You don't even know this guy.
Speaker 3: You didn't go to school with this guy.
Speaker 1: This isn't even your high school. Why are you here?
Speaker 2: All right, We've got big news for Wizard of Oz fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who like to just Wizard of Oz fans hopefully enjoy
Speaker 2: are like into like subdom stuff and just getting kicked
Speaker 2: in the shins repeatedly because we talked about how the Sphere.
Speaker 2: Their latest offering is going to be Wizard the Wizard
Speaker 2: of Oz, but like remade for the Sphere. And what
Speaker 2: they've done is they've taken the shots from the movie
Speaker 2: and they have expanded them outward so that now like
Speaker 2: you can see just like bare parts of the wall
Speaker 2: in Dorothy's home and like some furniture, and like one
Speaker 2: of them is like Uncle Ben or whatever her uncle's
Speaker 2: name is, just like standing in a doorway, like looking
Speaker 2: at his dick, just like looking downward, like the real
Speaker 2: trouble AI has real trouble with like Eyeline. You know,
Speaker 2: you may have noticed like that they're always like not
Speaker 2: looking necessarily in the right direction.
Speaker 3: None of it's story building either. You're right.
Speaker 4: It's like I wonder what v Oz her grandmother would
Speaker 4: have bought kept in that corner of the house. It's like,
Speaker 4: we don't need this. It's just not that surprising.
Speaker 1: It's also Uncle Henry, who is Uncle Henry softly softly
Speaker 1: considering masturbation on the sea just because we called it
Speaker 1: Uncle Ben, which is from Spider Man, So and Rice, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Aconomically they're the same Uncle. Actually the world whose world
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 1: The World's yours go. So, uh that that's kind of
Speaker 1: that head cannon stuff is cool, But now what we're
Speaker 1: seeing with the AI reckoning is head cannon for a
Speaker 1: head that does not exist. Right, there are too many,
Speaker 1: they're too It sounds deep unless you think about it.
Speaker 1: Nobody think about it. Yeah on that Ben, all right,
Speaker 1: just consider it what we would call podcast true. Uh
Speaker 1: so that's right. Wow, thanks guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I liked you guys. Liked playing Pink Floyd and watching
Speaker 1: Wizard of the Odds. Wizard of the Odds. Wow, plugged
Speaker 1: me into the entry Wizard of the Odds. The So
Speaker 1: head canon.
Speaker 2: Is like just like all that shit like stuff that's
Speaker 2: like kind of made up, but like fan fiction ideas
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I think it's many
Speaker 2: times better than what like there are fan theories that
Speaker 2: end up being better than what the writers come up with.
Speaker 2: Like during the Harry Potter craze, people had this like
Speaker 2: fan theory that it was actually like Neville long Bottom
Speaker 2: was secretly the chosen One and like Harry was like
Speaker 2: a distraction who like heroically was distracting Voldemort from Nevill
Speaker 2: long Bottom and then like it was going to end
Speaker 2: up being this and it would like be this cool
Speaker 2: morality story of like no, just because it's not all
Speaker 2: like based on lineage and eugenics, and you know, it
Speaker 2: could it could be this surprising thing where this guy
Speaker 2: with a name that essentially translates to long.
Speaker 3: But he got too hot was the problem he became.
Speaker 1: To break out? Yeah, they couldn't afford him.
Speaker 2: They couldn't And instead it was just like no, Harry
Speaker 2: Potter's the show's the other Really, there was another one
Speaker 2: with the Twilight Universe that I just like don't remember
Speaker 2: the details of the Twilight Universe well enough to like explain,
Speaker 2: but it was so much better. It's not I will
Speaker 2: never forget myself.
Speaker 1: You're so hard on yourself. It's fine, Stop helping about Blake.
Speaker 1: This is how it ends. Wait, but the Wizard of Oz, right,
Speaker 1: hazard of the goddamn Oz. Yeah, respect of the damn.
Speaker 3: The Ohio State University.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Think about it. Think about it, folks. Uh. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a fascinating series of young adult novels. But
Speaker 1: like any other young adult fiction or film adaptations thereof,
Speaker 1: I would argue it is vulnerable to being propagandized because
Speaker 1: you're It's all about parables, right, you learn a lesson,
Speaker 1: you do your little Joseph Campbell. Uh, you find adversity,
Speaker 1: you find victory. You you you like t s Eliot said, Uh,
Speaker 1: the essence of exploration is you return to the place
Speaker 1: you left.
Speaker 2: And you know, for the first life saying it was
Speaker 2: it was, it kind of got annoying after I never
Speaker 2: got to s Eliot.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, he spent a lot of his life really
Speaker 1: caused playing British. But but but he's definitely went.
Speaker 2: To the same high school as me. No, no way,
Speaker 2: really nice, triasshole. I know where you're from from. You
Speaker 2: fucking lose a vacation. She is.
Speaker 3: Sally went to that she is, But I don't know
Speaker 3: what time anything is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think that's the one that went to my school,
Speaker 2: the one of what the famous fuckers used to.
Speaker 3: I also like Madonna. Sorry it was Madonna.
Speaker 1: It was Madonna. It was commonly confused. Yeah, Donna. No, like,
Speaker 1: I have to google it too, man, I have to
Speaker 1: look up the pictures. Just which one?
Speaker 2: Uh, Milton Academy is that the.
Speaker 1: You're still in the research for it, Milton Milton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, attended Milton Academy in Massachusetts. For a preparatory year.
Speaker 2: All right, we're good here, justin it can stick, keep
Speaker 2: all that, all right. So anyways, yes, Wizard of Oz
Speaker 2: very powerful icon that can be filled with any meaning
Speaker 2: that people want to put on it. Massive takes up
Speaker 2: massive space and the shared consciousness, and that allows people
Speaker 2: with power to come in and use it as they
Speaker 2: would like. But we've got good news, folks. We're getting
Speaker 2: a contemporary Wizard of Oz series on Amazon Prime. So
Speaker 2: you know it's going to make a splash because shows
Speaker 2: that cost a billion dollars and are based on the
Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings just go there and like just
Speaker 2: disappear and don't exist. So it's going to be on
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime, and it's going to be executive produced by
Speaker 2: Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton, like Swish fucking way down town.
Speaker 2: It's God. But okay, so now they're thinking a little
Speaker 2: bit outside the box, you guys. Oh wow, this version
Speaker 2: of the Wizard of Oz is going to be a
Speaker 2: music infused Why a retelling of Wizard of Oz, which
Speaker 2: the original movie was, I guess you could say music infused,
Speaker 2: and also about a young adult.
Speaker 1: M'k with you?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we got another thing. In Dorothy, the
Speaker 2: name of this Dorothy, it will be pronounced like in
Speaker 2: The Golden Girls. The Yellow Brick Road will be quote
Speaker 2: a metaphor for the challenges and choices facing young adults today,
Speaker 2: whereas the original Yellow Brick Road had no metaphorical anything.
Speaker 2: And this is the These are the first people who
Speaker 2: are like, what if it was a fucking metaphor though.
Speaker 1: Gold Standard?
Speaker 2: Yes, right, it was originally that was originally What if
Speaker 2: it was a metaphor for the gold Standard?
Speaker 3: It's the worst metaphor you could ever fucking imagine. The
Speaker 3: gold Standard.
Speaker 2: People are a little concerned that a film franchise that
Speaker 2: has historically been a fixture of the gay community is
Speaker 2: now in the hands of a mega couple. And when
Speaker 2: I heard them described as a mega couple, I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, guys, Gwen Stefani, no doubt, was the first
Speaker 2: concert that I ever went to without my parents six
Speaker 2: years ago, the Reunion tour.
Speaker 1: I think we all have that. We all have that
Speaker 1: moment too. Maybe it's maybe we are bubbled in our experience,
Speaker 1: but I don't know about you, guys. I always have
Speaker 1: that similar moment. Just off air, we were talking about
Speaker 1: this and you guys, let me know that. Apparently when
Speaker 1: Stefani from No Doubt is so what right wing, and
Speaker 1: it's just always surprising to me because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you did sca though.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, like a thing that. Yeah, So that's what
Speaker 2: I was about to get the fact that like I thought,
Speaker 2: like Gwen Stefani was you know, just married to a
Speaker 2: right wing guy and was still and also a major
Speaker 2: cultural appropriator, but like I didn't think she was like
Speaker 2: full full conservative. Apparently she's been pretty conservative even again
Speaker 2: even though SKA music is at its core like anti fascist.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: She's very involved in one of those apps where you
Speaker 2: can pay money to pray with her is owned by
Speaker 2: Peter Teel. And she responded to an interview on social
Speaker 2: media with a guy who acts in Christian like plays
Speaker 2: Jesus in a Christian movie, saying, Wow, Jonathan Rumy, you
Speaker 2: are a powerful, inspirational human. What an enlightening, intelligent, beautiful interview.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being you. That interview took place on
Speaker 2: the Tucker Carlson Show. Yeah, there's a whole hour and
Speaker 2: a half long dive that goes into like her background
Speaker 2: and how this actually shouldn't surprise anybody and we'll link
Speaker 2: off to that in the footnotes. But it's anyways, it's
Speaker 2: kind of a bummer, kind of a bummer, but Dorothy
Speaker 2: should be. It should be a hoot that everybody will
Speaker 2: stop and watch. And I think it's gonna finally happen
Speaker 2: for Amazon Prime. You got this is the one. This
Speaker 2: is the one Prime video.
Speaker 1: Jeff is right now, like he just walked out of
Speaker 1: that uh pitch meeting we set up, and uh, he's
Speaker 1: going to babe, this is the one. Remember how you
Speaker 1: always told me Wizard of Oz was it propagandistic enough? Well,
Speaker 1: we got it.
Speaker 2: There was like some metaphorical content in the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think the music's going to
Speaker 1: be as good.
Speaker 2: You don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You're gonna look so silly in nine years when this
Speaker 3: movie finally.
Speaker 2: None of the other Wizard of Oz, like all somewhere
Speaker 2: out no somewhere out there that's fible over.
Speaker 1: The rainbow, over the rainbow. Uh the if I only
Speaker 1: had a brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had a brain, all the songs I'm
Speaker 2: wicked skips skips in my whoa whoa? However wicked too?
Speaker 2: You you go you go back and check out when
Speaker 2: it's Fannie's latest country album, nary a Skip, Insight, all
Speaker 2: Bangers from the beginning Dead.
Speaker 1: It's just that album.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a shame she got the same critiques that
Speaker 4: Beyonce did when she released her I.
Speaker 2: Know A Country album the same year as Beyonce her
Speaker 2: country album. But it's just an outright like just skipping.
Speaker 2: Nobody even notices what what.
Speaker 1: That's why that? That's also by the way, folks, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what Miles is working on today.
Speaker 2: Is his country album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sit out to work on his country.
Speaker 4: Congrats to Miles. I listened to a little bit of
Speaker 4: it and I yeah, it's it's great. It's it's great.
Speaker 4: Transform Yeah, transformeriod.
Speaker 2: Some of the songs actually, like it seems like they
Speaker 2: might be metaphorical you think of it. Yeah, that's Miles.
Speaker 2: That's that.
Speaker 3: You expect that from Miles.
Speaker 2: Everything some metaphorical, metaphorical Miles. Yeah. Well, Ben Bolin, such
Speaker 2: a pleasure having you on the podcast as always. Where
Speaker 2: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you can fine. Follow hang out with a
Speaker 1: couple of shows. I do stuff. They don't want you
Speaker 1: to know. Ridiculous history featuring the one and only Jack
Speaker 1: and Miles not too infrequently to check that.
Speaker 2: Pretty frequently at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just say, like how I just guilt you
Speaker 1: guys at the end of every show. Oh. Also, stuff
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know is going to the
Speaker 1: High Seas. We are part of a Virgin Voyages true
Speaker 1: crime cruise that is happening. This is a true story.
Speaker 1: On October tenth through the fifteenth, we're going to do
Speaker 1: an episode about the Bermuda Triangle live in the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 1: Check it out. You can a so I find me,
Speaker 1: as Miles says, anywhere there's an at sign in a
Speaker 1: burst of creativity calling myself at Ben Bullen.
Speaker 2: You maniac at that bully? What could it mean? I
Speaker 2: think there's metaphorical content in there. Is there a work
Speaker 2: of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Ben? Yes? Absolutely? When Stefani uh no doubt, Uh come on,
Speaker 1: come on, do soon?
Speaker 2: Do soon?
Speaker 1: For a callback? I have I have I have recently
Speaker 1: for fans of mendanity and wholesomeness, I have recently done
Speaker 1: some kind of like earwashing or like eye washed kind
Speaker 1: of stuff by looking at this guy in Thailand who
Speaker 1: just saves dogs. His name is Nil Harbison uh and
Speaker 1: everything that he is oriented towards in his life is
Speaker 1: just him finding with a his crew, finding street dogs
Speaker 1: in Thailand, specifically attempting to save their lives and to
Speaker 1: give them good homes.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. That's awesome. Yeah, well sounds like
Speaker 2: an asshole?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how is he making money off of this?
Speaker 2: What's his angle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I should have ended it with yeah, well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: Well I think that's the only sunctuation I can understand
Speaker 8: is yeah, well that's my period, Blake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of your period? Yeah, where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Follow you in entire work media? You've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: I'm on it and people can find me at Blake
Speaker 3: Wexler on all social media. Tonight and tomorrow I'm doing
Speaker 3: stand up in wilkes Bury, Pennsylvania, and then these shows
Speaker 3: tickets aren't on sale yet, but I will be in
Speaker 3: Ashville September twenty sixth, Chicago December seventh, and a big
Speaker 3: show in Brooklyn on January sixteenth, sixteenth, teenth, sixteenth, big
Speaker 3: show teenth in January, and a thing to work of media.
Speaker 4: Six no, no, no, that was that was taken. I
Speaker 4: try to do it every single year. I'm gonna be real,
Speaker 4: I'll finally have had ten days to recover from the party.
Speaker 3: I've been doing hosting.
Speaker 4: So my wife is a is a writer and she
Speaker 4: wrote an article for nat Geo last month speaking of animals.
Speaker 4: Ticks are taking over city parks. Here's how to avoid those.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's good. So that's a thing. If you're
Speaker 4: a dog person and you live in a city, check
Speaker 4: your dog, even if like you're in Central Park or
Speaker 4: whatever the city's park is, you should. I know it
Speaker 4: sounds silly, but you should check your dog for ticks
Speaker 4: after they're they're playing in the grass and stuff. Because
Speaker 4: we found ticks on our dog, like you're in New York.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's it's nice. Another nice piece of news.
Speaker 4: But it's a good it's a good article.
Speaker 2: And if you're not like all the sheeople who have
Speaker 2: dogs as pets, and if you had ticks as pets, yes,
Speaker 2: your tick check for dogs. Got stuck on a dog
Speaker 2: when you're playing with it in the park.
Speaker 1: Check your ticks for dogs? Jack, Jack, Where can people
Speaker 1: learn more about you? Men?
Speaker 2: Oh man? So many places?
Speaker 3: And your rescue tick that you have dedicated it. Thank you.
Speaker 2: He saved me from a life without lyme disease. I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying workimedia from David please stop, who wrote when I'm broke.
Speaker 2: When I get paid again, I'm gonna start saving ship
Speaker 2: for real this time, no unnecessary ship me. When I
Speaker 2: get paid, Google, show me your most frivolous and worldly things.
Speaker 2: I love the use of worldly there world frivolous and
Speaker 2: worldly things is wonderful. That's at David, please stop or
Speaker 2: a sad little man is there twitter handle? You can
Speaker 2: find me on Twitter at jack Underscore of Brian at
Speaker 2: Blue Sky at jack Obi the number one. You can
Speaker 2: find us on Twitter and blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 2: I believe it is. Yes, that's correct, we're at the
Speaker 2: Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
Speaker 2: of this episode wherever you're listening to it. Open the episode,
Speaker 2: go to where all the words are underneath the title
Speaker 2: of the show, and underneath that description you'll find the
Speaker 2: footnote where we link off to the information that we
Speaker 2: talked about in today's episode. We also wake off to
Speaker 2: a song that we think you might enjoy with Miles Out.
Speaker 2: Super producer Justin Connor steps in and tells you a
Speaker 2: song that he thinks you might enjoy, and also kind
Speaker 2: of it gives you a little poetry. Well, he's at it,
Speaker 2: justin their song that you think that people might enjoy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I don't usually recommend dance music on here
Speaker 9: for some reason, but seeing as how I've started the
Speaker 9: DJ again, I've been listening to a lot more of it.
Speaker 9: And also it's Friday, so this song sounds like if
Speaker 9: you put pop vocals over the start menu music in
Speaker 9: the Sega Fighting game, and it's it's very uptempo, it's
Speaker 9: very fun. It'll get your weekend started right. So this
Speaker 9: track is called in Your Arms by shift key spelled
Speaker 9: K three.
Speaker 2: Y, and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes.
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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for us. This week we're back.
Speaker 2: You got an episode tomorrow that's uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: highlights from this week's season. And on Monday, we're trying
Speaker 2: a new thing. We we have it. We have a
Speaker 2: thing called oops all over rated, Underrated where we just fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we just through and highlight some of our favor overrated,
Speaker 2: underrated for the past couple of months. So we'll be
Speaker 2: dropping that. We might be dropping our very weird US
Speaker 2: open episode at some point. All of that, plenty more
Speaker 2: and we will talk to y'all on Tuesday. New episode
Speaker 2: dropping Tuesday. Talk to y'all then bye right. The Daily
Speaker 2: Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long, co produced
Speaker 2: by Bee Wag, co produced by Victor Wright, co
Speaker 3: Written by J M McNabb, edited and engineered by Justin Connor.