1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood Land, the Rap Party. What has happened 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: in all you movie geeks? You true crime freaks just 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: like me? You guys like your movie history served up 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: with a side of grit and grime. This, of course, 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: is the place where we dig up the stories often 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: lost to Hollywood history, buried in the corner of the 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: cutting room floor, the stories they don't want told, the 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: very same ones that have now made you the most 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: dangerous person at the party. I'm Zeth Lundy, writer and 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: showrunner here at Double Elvis, and today in the hollywood 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Land Rap Party, we are talking about major developments in 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the dual mysteries of the Black Dahlia and the Zodiac Killer. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about the year nineteen seventy five. We're talking 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: about our guy, Bobby Weir of The Grateful Dead Rest 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: in Peace, and of course this week's subject Elizabeth Short 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: and next week's subject Robert Blake. And I also hear 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: from all you guys on the most compelling unsolved mysteries 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: in Hollywood history, which of course means we're going to 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: check out your voicemails, your text dms, and emails. So 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: come on, everybody, let's party. I come to you today 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: with some wild recent news very much relevant to our 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: interests here in Hollywood Land. This is news that I've 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: been dying to get into with you guys for a 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: few weeks, but due to how the programming has been 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: shaking down, I decided to wait until now till this 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: week to talk about it. I'm talking about it now 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: because this week, back on Monday, we ran our fully 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: scripted episode from the archive on Elizabeth Short, aka the 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia, whose mutilated and severed body was found on 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: the street in La seventy nine years ago tomorrow, January fifteenth, 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: back in nineteen forty seven. This is one of the 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: most bizarre and most unsolvable cases in Hollywood history. You know, 37 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown, right, of course, you know 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: it's Chinatown. You know you've heard the episode on the 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia that we've got for you in the feed. 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: You know this. But here's something maybe you don't know, 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: you haven't heard about. There's this news that really broke 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I guess a few weeks maybe a month back. There's 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: this fifty year old West Virginia man. He's a high 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: school dropout who taught himself code breaking and he now 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: runs a firm called Cold Case Consultants of America. That's 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: really a mouthful. Cold Case Consultants. I will not attempt 47 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: to say that five times fast, but you are welcome 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: to and kudos if you can do it. This guy, 49 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Alex Baber, who runs Cold Case Consultants. He claims that 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: not only has he solved the nearly eight decade mystery 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: of the Black Dahlia, but that he's also solved the 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: mystery of the Zodiac killer. And here's the kicker. He 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: says that the two cases are connected. Holy shit, right, 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: who had this on their Bengo guard for this year? 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia solved, Zodiac solved. Oh but wait, the purp 56 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: is the same guy, right. Let me give you a 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: little bit of background here. Alex Baber, he was diagnosed 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: with autism when he was a kid. He dropped out 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: of school, like I said, got his ged and really 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: immersed himself in the world of code breaking. For the 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: last four years or so, he has focused the majority 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: of his time on these two cases, the Black Dahlia 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: and the Zodiac Killer. In an article in The La Times, 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: he said, quote, it's my autism. Once I start on something, 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I have to see it through. The deeper I go, 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: the harder I push. My mind's wired differently unco sidebar. 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Dear Hollywood land listeners, do you know how he became 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: obsessed with the Zodiac in the first place? Well, that 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: would be David Fincher's most excellent two thousand and seven film. 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: But I digress. So, with the help of Ai, Baber 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: gets to work on cracking the Zodiac cipher. This is 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: the cipher of thirteen letters and characters that the killer 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: sent to the San Francisco Chronicle on a dare and 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: which reportedly contains their identity if you were able to 75 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: crack the code. So Baber comes up with a list 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: of seventy one million possible thirteen letter names. He cross 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: references those with all kinds of facts and reporting from 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: the case to try to narrow it down. He says 79 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: that once he really got into this part of the process, 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: he was working eighteen to twenty hours a day on 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: this to figure out the true identity of the Zodiac killer. 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: And finally, after nine months on this one task, drilling 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: this all down, he eliminates all possible thirteen letter names 84 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: for one and that name is Marvin Merrill. Now, who 85 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: is Marvin Merrill? It turns out that Marvin Merrill is 86 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: an alias that was adopted by a guy named Marvin Margolis. 87 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: And Marvin Margolis was one of the many people questioned 88 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: originally by the LAPD in nineteen forty seven after the 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: murder of Elizabeth Short. He was also a pre med student, 90 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of important because the way in which 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: her body was carefully and cleanly severed led the cops 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to believe that her killer knew a thing or two 93 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: about anatomy. When Marvin Margolis first talked to the cops, 94 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: he lied about his relationship with Elizabeth Short. He didn't 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: let on that he'd actually lived with her for about 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: twelve days in an apartment on Hollywood Boulevard, some three 97 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: months before her murder. Now apparently he eventually revealed this 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: fact to the authorities, but soon after that he left town. 99 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: He skipped La went to Chicago, and he adopted this 100 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Marvin Merrill. Now hold up a second here. I have 101 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: so many questions, as I'm sure you all do. Like 102 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: if this guy was like, oh yeah, I knew that chick. Actually, 103 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, we lived together for like two fucking weeks, 104 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: and then shortly after she was murdered, he's like later, 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: dudes and pieces out to fucking Chicago. Like, my first 106 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 1: question is, why didn't the cops go track him down? 107 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Now again, if you've heard our episode on the Black Dahlia, 108 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: you probably know the answer to this question. It's this 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: unanswerable question. The Black Dahlia is Chinatown, It's Twin Peaks. 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: It's a Raymond Chandler novel wrapped up in a David 111 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Lynch dream. Let me go off on a tangent or 112 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: two here to explain what I mean. Okay, years ago, 113 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: when I first researched and wrote this episode on the 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia, one of the first books I went to 115 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: was this book called Severed by John Gilmour. This was 116 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the first non fiction book ever written about Elizabeth Short, 117 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: I believe, and speaking of David Lynch, allegedly he liked 118 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: the book so much that he optioned it to make 119 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: a film, but never did not sure how true that is. 120 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: But as you can imagine, I was like, cool, Okay, 121 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: this is the book to read, right, So I read it, 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: and the author makes a pretty compelling case that this 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: guy Arnold Smith aka Jack Anderson Wilson like a sidebar 124 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: to a sidebar here, like holy shit, everyone with the 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: aliases and then the alternate names back then, like no 126 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: wonder the cops couldn't figure couldn't figure this case out. 127 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: It's like, who is that guy? No, he's that's not 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: his name. His name is different. Wait, his name was 129 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: something different a few weeks before. Like it's so hard 130 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: keeping this up straight, as as I know, you all know. Anyways, 131 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: John Gilmour, the author of this book, severed. He makes 132 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: this compelling case that this guy was the guy who 133 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: murdered Elizabeth Short. But as I point out in the 134 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: episode near the end, the La Times review of Books 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: called this author, John Gilmore a quote purveyor of fictional 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: trash unquote. And when I discovered that take after I 137 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: read the whole book, I kind of dove a little 138 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: deeper into what people thought about this book online, and 139 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, maybe this isn't the book. 140 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: So I consulted another book, this one called Black Dahlia 141 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Red Rose, in which that book's author Pugh eat Well, 142 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. She makes the case 143 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: that Mark Hanson, this guy who own he owned a nightclub, 144 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: he owns some movie theaters, he had these connections to 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the underworld. She makes the case that he was the guy. Right. 146 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: So your head just starts spinning as you comb through 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: all these different tones where their different takes and different 148 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: angles on the same crime. There doesn't appear to be 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: a general consensus among authors or students of this murder, 150 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: which I think in large part is what defines the 151 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia. It's murky, it's smoky, it's impenetrable, it's haunted 152 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: by characters and faces and motives and alibis and one 153 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: alias after another. I've just read that there is actually 154 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: another book forthcoming on this case. This one's called Black 155 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Dahlia Murder, Monsters and Madness in mid Century Hollywood, written 156 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: by William J. Mann. And this book allegedly sides with 157 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: our guy, Alex Baber at Cold Case Consultants. Here, the 158 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: book allegedly zeros in on Marvin Merrill aka Marvin Margolis 159 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: as a possible suspect. However, there's always a However, there's 160 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: always a butt here when it comes to the Black Dahlia. 161 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: Larry Harnish, who's a former copy editor at the La 162 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Times and a devoted scholar of the Black Dahlia case, 163 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: has preempted the release of this book by calling it 164 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: a fraud and a fakery. Alex Baber has his own 165 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: critics as well, but he discovered something pretty striking after 166 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: allegedly breaking the zodiac cipher and revealing this name Marvin Merrill. 167 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Baber went to Meryl's son or Margolis's son, I don't 168 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: know which name he has, and the son showed Alex 169 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: Baber this drawing that his father had made and which 170 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: he inherited from him when his father was dying. The 171 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: illustration or the sketch, I guess, it's of a naked 172 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: woman from the waist up and she appears to have 173 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: a severed nipple and knife wounds. The name of the 174 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: sketch is Elizabeth, and hidden in the shading of the 175 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: drawing is the word Zodiac. Now back to why they 176 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: didn't pursue Margolis or Merril or whatever he was calling himself. 177 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: There's an old laped report that clears him of being 178 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: a suspect due to an alibi, even though the details 179 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: of that alibi are not written down, and even though 180 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: he remained a suspect after he left la for Chicago. 181 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to make of all this, because, 182 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, as I just said, reading through the articles here, 183 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: it gives me the same feeling I got when I 184 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: initially read the book Severed, only to have the rug 185 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: pulled out later when that book was debunked. But I 186 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: also feel like the debunking of all these theories is 187 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: part of this whole story and part of what makes 188 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: it ELA's greatest mystery. But the thing that I'm really 189 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: compelled by here is the connection to the Zodiac. I've 190 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: never really contemplated whether those two things could be related, 191 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: because you know, the Black Dahia murder happens in nineteen 192 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: forty seven, and then the Zodiac killings they don't start 193 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: for two decades after that, in the late nineteen sixties. 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: So fascinating. I want to give a quick shout out 195 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: here to disco Pete, my guy, Pete Milan over in 196 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Patreon in our Disgraceland all Access group in Patreon, he 197 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: along with another disco disco Jeff, they hipped me to 198 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: a new podcast called Killer in the Code, which features 199 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: this guy I've been talking about, Alex Baber. Disco Jeff 200 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: also mentions an audiobook called Sisters in Death by Eli Frankel. 201 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: This book claims that the murderer of a young woman 202 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Missouri, in nineteen forty one is also 203 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: the murderer of Elizabeth Short. And then, also over in Patreon, 204 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: another disco disco bill mentions the theory that the stage 205 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 1: body spoke to the data art movement and the Surrealists 206 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: that this theory that her body was an art piece. 207 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: This story is never ending, and I really wonder if 208 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: it's ending here with this new shocking revelation tying the 209 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Black Dahlia to the Zodiac killer, or if this is 210 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: just another rabbit hole that will get debunked in the 211 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: coming months and years and give way to a new 212 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: take time will tell. Speaking now of murder and mystery, 213 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: next week we're going to be bringing you our episode 214 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: on Robert Blake, one time child actor Bretta to TV 215 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: viewers and the seventies and later the Weird creepy guy 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: with the painted white face in a lost highway. He 217 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: was arrested in charged with the two thousand and one 218 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: murder of his wife, Bonnie Lee Backley. Robert Blake was 219 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: famously the star of In Cold Blood, the granddaddy of 220 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: true crime films, a film based on a true story, 221 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: and as we know here, the truth is often strained 222 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: than fiction. But this got me thinking for next week's 223 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: question of the week, what is your favorite crime film 224 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: based on a true story? You can even just give 225 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: me your favorite movie period based on a true story, 226 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: but extra points here for crime films. Hit me up 227 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: and let me know you know how to do it. 228 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: You can text or call me six one seven nine 229 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. You can email Disgrace 230 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: lamp pod at gmail, hit me up at the socials 231 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: at Disgrace lamb pod, or the Patreon chat. As I 232 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, just hop in there leave your answer for me. 233 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll play or read your response in the Wrap 234 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: party next week. Okay, now for this week's question of 235 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the week, I ask you guys for your thoughts on 236 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: the most compelling unsolved mystery in Hollywood history. Bring me 237 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: your Robert Stack trench coats stat We're gonna get into 238 00:13:48,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: all that right after this quick break. Hollywood has more 239 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: than its fair share of unsolved mysteries, suspicious deaths, puzzling disappearances. 240 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: You know this you listen to Hollywood Land, which means 241 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: you're smarter than the average bear when it comes to 242 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: these things. Last week I asked you all to send 243 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: me your favorite or maybe favorite isn't the word compelling, 244 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: I said earlier, haunting perhaps, But what unsolved mystery from 245 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Hollywood history sticks with you the most? Tons of action 246 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: on this over in Disgraceland all Access in Patreon, which 247 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: if you are not a member of all Access over 248 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: on Patreon or all Access on Apple Podcasts, just go 249 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: to disgracelampod dot com for more details on how to 250 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: sign up today okay in Patreon. In the chat, Kimberly 251 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: bring in the list, as she always does, Kimberly lifts 252 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: off Marilyn Monroe, Natalie Wood, Thelma Todd, all of which 253 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: have Hollywood Land episodes. By the way, she also includes 254 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: William Desmond Taylor and Thomas Ince Yes, two people I've 255 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: always wanted to do episodes on. William Desmond Taylor, he 256 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: was an actor and then a director back on the 257 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Silent era one hundred years ago. He was murdered in 258 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, shot in his bungalow on Alvarado Street. 259 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: It's been called Hollywood's first Who done it? And I 260 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: really want to get into the story at some point. 261 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: And then Thomas Ince. We may have mentioned this briefly 262 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: in the Charlie Chaplin episode. I don't remember, but I 263 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: think we did. He was a Silent film era movie 264 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: mogul whose death was highly suspicious. There's this wild story 265 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: out there. Maybe this is what is in the Chaplain 266 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: thing about William Randolph Hurst, the media mogul, mistaking Inns 267 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: for Chaplain and shooting him. Peter Bogdanovich made a film, 268 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: I think in the early two thousands called The Cats Meow, 269 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: which is about one version of the story based on 270 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: something that Peter Bargdanovitch said Orson Wells had once told him, 271 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: super super interesting stuff. Kimberly, we got to get into 272 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: those at some point. Thank you for reminding me of those. 273 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Also on Patreon, Becky chimed in, Bob Crane, George Reeves, 274 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: and Paul Byrne. Yeah, we've got episodes on Bob Crane 275 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: and George Reeves, but I had to look up Paul Byrne. 276 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: Paul Byrne was a director, screenwriter, and a producer. He 277 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: married Gene Harlowe in nineteen thirty two, but just two 278 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: months later he was dead an apparent gunshot wound, and 279 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: there was an alleged suicide note. However, there are other 280 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: theories out there, including one that he was murdered by 281 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: his ex common law wife, who incidentally took her own 282 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: life just a few days later when she jumped off 283 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: a ferry. Wow, I've got to look in this some 284 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: more for sure. Thanks Becky so much for bringing that 285 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: one to my attention. Also thanks to disco Cynthia and 286 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: the Patreon chat. Cynthia also mentions Paul Byrne, Thelma Todd, 287 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Bobby Fuller, I like that's one for the other side 288 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: of the street, though, Disgraceland. I gotta get Jake on that. 289 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Bobby Fuller, the man, Bobby Fuller, super underrated? What's that song? 290 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: The last scene of Fantastic Mister Fox when it cuts 291 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: to the credits and they're dancing in the supermarket letter dance? 292 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Is that it? Bobby Fuller? Four, and of course I 293 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: shot the law as well. But Cynthia also asked, what's 294 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: on the text Watson tapes? Yes, Cynthia, great question, what 295 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: is on the text Watson tapes? These are the infamous 296 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: tapes of recorded interviews between Tex Watson and his attorneys 297 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: shortly after the Manson murders, when he turned himself in 298 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: for questioning. Tom O'Neil writes about this near the end 299 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: of his must read book Chaos. We've talked about this 300 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot here, both in Disgraceland and Hollywood Land. If 301 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: you have not read Chaos, you got to read this book. 302 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: These tapes are thought to be the first known recorded 303 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: account of the Manson murders. It's thought to be a confession, 304 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: and it was made before Tex Watson was even idd 305 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: as a suspect. His lawyer, Bill Boyd, told Tom O'Neill 306 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: when he was researching Chaos, that he could listen to 307 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: the tapes as long as Tex Watson agreed, which, of 308 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: course he did not, and then Bill Boyd died. His 309 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: law firm went bankrupt. All of its holdings went into receivership, 310 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: including those cassettes, which have been kept in a safe 311 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: in Bill Boyd's office, Cynthia. I want to know what's 312 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: on those tapes. I wonder if and when these will 313 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: ever see the light of day. I guess another time 314 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: will tell situation here, my guy Barry and Patreon coming 315 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: in with some hot takes on this question. One is 316 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: who shot Jr? Should we do an episode on that, Barry? 317 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: And the other is how does a talentless hack like 318 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum continue to get roles? It's a freaking unsolved mystery. 319 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Get Robert Stack on that one. Damn Barry coming in 320 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: hot on Channing Tatum. This made me ask myself, do 321 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: I love Chanting Tatum in anything? My wife is a 322 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Ride or Die magic Mike fan. I think we all 323 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: know the reason why. There. We'll put that aside. I 324 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: will say I like him in the twenty one Jump 325 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Street movies, and I do like when a good director 326 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: uses him in unexpected ways, like Steven Soderberg cast him 327 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: in Logan Lucky, which I think he's great in, and 328 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: then the Cohen's use him in Hail Caesar. But I 329 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen Roofman his latest. And I 330 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: gotta say, Barry, maybe I agree with you here because 331 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I have no desire to see it. Keep the hot 332 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: takes coming, Barry, appreciate it. I did get some text 333 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: from you guys in this too, like Casey and the 334 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: five oh six texted in about the death of Natalie 335 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Wood and you know, yeah, the Natalie would Run really 336 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: is something for me too. There's something so spooky about it. 337 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the fact that it was on a yacht 338 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, on the water. They 339 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: don't know how she got in the water. They don't 340 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: know how she got these bruises on her body. There's 341 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: the Thomas Negucci of it all, there's the Frank Sinatra 342 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: of it all. We get into all this in our episode, 343 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: by the way, But Casey, I agree, as the dude 344 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: would say, a lot of inns, a lot of outs, 345 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of what have you. Let's pivot away from 346 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: question of the week for a minute here. Last week 347 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: we ran our episode on River Phoenix and in the 348 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: rap party, I was talking about the Viper Room and 349 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: the grand opening performance there by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. 350 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: I asked if anybody who was there reached out to me, 351 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: and I got this text from the three to two 352 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: three Jeff from the three two three. I wasn't at 353 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the Tom Petty show at the Viper Room, but I 354 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: was one of the talent buyers there for ten plus years. 355 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of crazy shit as you can 356 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: imagine of the many shows I've seen there. Separate gigs 357 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: by Scott Wiland, Billy Corgan and Phil and Selmo really 358 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: stick out. Great episode, very well done gents, rock a rolla. 359 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: And then Jeff adds to this day Flowers show up 360 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: outside of the club on the anniversary of Rivers passing 361 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: year in year out. Damn, Jeff, that's very cool to 362 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: hear about the Flowers that annual makeshift memorial there for 363 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: River after all these years later. And also listen, I'm 364 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: stoked that we got someone who was involved with a 365 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: Viper Room in some way listening to our show and 366 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: getting in touch, which is very cool and no doubt, 367 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some crazy shit. I'm sure you've 368 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: seen some very cool shit too. Like I'm very jealous 369 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: of the Scott Wiland gig there. My best huge artist 370 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: in a small venue story. I know nobody is asking, 371 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: but I'm going to tell you is when I saw 372 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Vedder play this tiny, tiny club in Cambridge, mass 373 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: called Toad back in like six I think it was. 374 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: And when I say tiny, I mean for those of 375 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: you who know this place, it is tiny. It's like 376 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: under one hundred people. Tiny. And on this night, Pearl 377 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: Jam had just played at I don't know, was that 378 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: either Feenway or the Garden, right, A huge show, sold 379 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: out show probably, And that night Eddie Vedder shows up 380 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: with the Red Sox's GM at the time of all people, 381 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: theo Epstein and they did Rocking in the Free World 382 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: by Neil Young, which is sort of like whenever these 383 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: two get together is like their go to tune. It 384 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: was incredible. The room was, the Toad was packed. I 385 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: was a couple plus a couple more beers deep and 386 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: just remember turning and looking at the window of Toad 387 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: and the sidewalk was literally jammed with people pressing their 388 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: faces up against the glass as the band was like 389 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: tearing through this cover. It was an incredible moment, something 390 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: about the size of a room making a moment like 391 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: that even more magical and more strange. And Jeff, you 392 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Thank you for reporting on 393 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: the magical and the strange out there. And the strip. 394 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: Keep the stories coming, Jeff, appreciate you got a text 395 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: here from the seven six' five that, says heyth It's 396 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: amanda From. Indy when are we going to hear some 397 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: New Hollywood land? Episodes? Amanda thank you for this. Question 398 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: let me try to give you the short, answer or 399 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: the shortest answer THAT i can on. This i'm assuming 400 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about our scripted and sound design episodes like 401 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: the Block dout that we just released this. Week The 402 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: River phoenix won last. Week so let me zoom out 403 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: here for a. Second for those maybe that haven't been 404 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: following along with us for a. WHILE a couple years, 405 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: ago back in twenty twenty, one When Double elvis had 406 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: entered a partnership With, amazon we launched a spinoff show 407 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: From Disgraced land called Bad. Lands the original concept for 408 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: the show was that we would alternate seasons between different, 409 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: worlds different, categories, Right so we had These every season 410 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: would be a subseason of Bad. Lands so you had 411 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Bad Lands season, One Hollywood, land you had Bad Lands 412 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: season three Sports, land, Right and we had these ambitions 413 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: to go Beyond, hollywood go beyond sports and get into 414 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: seasons on politicians and organized crime and maybe even figures 415 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: from way way back in. History but it was very 416 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: complicated not only to, produce but to, message and we 417 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: rebranded the feed the show recently as Simply Hollywood, land 418 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: focusing on Those hollywood, Stories hollywood and true, crime because 419 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: we are just as obsessed with movies here as we 420 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: are with, music and so this feed first became a 421 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: place for, these this archive Of Hollywood land episodes to, 422 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: live and now it's a place for me And jake 423 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: to continue to interact with the, community all of, you 424 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: and to grow that, community which has been a ton 425 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of fun for me. Personally it's Why i've been doing 426 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: the wrap party now for a, while and also why 427 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: we introduced this new third weekly installment the screening room 428 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: here as. Well, now the scripted episodes the genesis of this, 429 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: show as it. Were at the, moment we are a 430 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: very lean and mean team here At Double. Elvis there's 431 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: only a handful of. Us we're grinding out day to, 432 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: day week to, week and those scripted sound design episodes 433 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: are a lot of work production, wise the, research the, 434 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: writing the, narration the, editing the, music the, mixing all of. 435 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: It so at this, moment given where we are and 436 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: who we. Are the best way for us to deliver 437 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: more new stuff to you guys on the regular or 438 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: is to give you more rap party screening room along 439 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: with these archive scripted. Episodes. Right but as things here 440 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: continue to grow and continue to, evolve we'll see what. 441 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Happens WOULD i would love to see more scripted episodes, 442 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: again you, know but it's just a balance between what 443 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: we can do and what you guys want as. Well 444 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: But i've got a long ass list of subjects that 445 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: i want to write, about and that list gets longer every. 446 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Month so, anyways that's the state of play here and 447 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: that's where where we, are and we'll see where things. 448 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Go maybe in the, Meantime, amanda let me know if 449 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: you have any suggestions of subjects potential new episodes down the, 450 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: Line any actors or directors or whoever that you'd like 451 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: to see us add to potential new episodes of the. Show, 452 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: okay sound. GOOD i appreciate the, Question. AMANDA i hope 453 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: that answer suits. You if you have any follow up, 454 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Questions i'm always. Here just give me a, holler let 455 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: me know And i'll get back to. You, Okay i've 456 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: got more THAT i want to get into with all of, 457 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: you like in the recommendations, department but any to take 458 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: a wicked brief. Break, guy it's gonna be wicked brief 459 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: or that's my Awful massachusetts. Accent people here wicked and 460 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: they Think. Massachusetts but listen up here In maine they, Say, 461 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: Jesus bob was gonna be wicked. Brief, okay so hang, 462 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: tight be right, back all, Right, Hollywood Land, gaine we are. 463 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: Back and as we get into the recommendation portion of our. 464 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: Episode here, FIRST i wanted to speak very briefly on 465 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: the passing of the Great Bob, weir founding member of 466 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: The warlocks who later, became of, course The Grateful. Dead, 467 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: personally he was always my favorite member of The. DEAD 468 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: i loved how he brought this preppy counterpoint To jerry's hippie, 469 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: vibe you, know the polo, shirts The New balance, sneakers 470 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: the short. Shorts but he also did that crucially and 471 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: how he. Performed jerry was the icon of the. Group 472 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: he was the lead guitar. Player he's the one that 473 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: has The ben And jerry's ice cream named after. Him 474 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: And bobby Was bobby was the other. Guy bobby was 475 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: the rhythm. Player and you, know when you start playing 476 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: guitar as a, KID i think you're naturally you're drawn 477 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: to these flashy lead, players which is only, natural and 478 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: then you later realize how these rhythm guys are just 479 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: as vital and just as, compelling you, know whether It's 480 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: bob were or It's Pete. Townsend bob famously got really 481 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: Into Coltrane's Classic, quartet specifically his piano player McCoy, tyner 482 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: and he's talked at length about how he studied How 483 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: tyner would lay out this complex rhythm groundwork That coltrane 484 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: could take off from and solo, over and how that 485 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: groundwork was in musical conversation With. Train so he brought 486 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: that philosophy To The, dead to his work With, jerry 487 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: and to, me that's what really makes that shit so. 488 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: GREAT i, mean there's a lot of things that Make 489 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: The dead, great but Having bobby there laying down that complex, 490 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: groundwork not just playing the chord, right only Makes jerry 491 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: shine even. More for recommendations Around Bob, weir there's that 492 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: great doc On netflix Called The Other, one which focuses 493 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: On bob's. STORY i think that came out ten twelve years. 494 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: AGO i actually watched some of it the other night 495 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: with my, son who plays. Guitar we threw it on 496 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: we heard That bob, died and we found the section 497 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: where he's talking about all this rhythm guitar, playing WHICH 498 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: i thought was kind OF i hope it was illuminating 499 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: for my, son because he's like us, all he's still 500 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: very obsessed with sort of the flashy. Leads. Right we 501 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: also caught the part or everyone's talking about How bob 502 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: was the most handsome member of the group and how 503 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: the reason that The Grateful dead got girls was because Of. 504 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Bobby in addition to that, doc there's also that really 505 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: awesome doc series on The dead On Amazon. Prime it's 506 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: like a four or five part. SERIES i think it's 507 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: Called Long Strange. Trip and for, Records bob's nineteen seventy 508 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: two solo Album ace, is for my, money the Best 509 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: dead solo. Album is probably one of my favorite albums 510 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: of all. Time IF i was making a list of 511 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: top top, twenty maybe twenty five, THIRTY i think it 512 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: would be in. There it's really only a solo album 513 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: and name it's the members of The dead. Playing but 514 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: this is back When Warner brothers, like let them all 515 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: do their own solo shit for a. Minute But ace 516 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: is where you get great studio versions of the greatest 517 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: story ever. Told playing in the BAND Mexicali blues one 518 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: More Saturday. Night it fucking. Rules you. Know there's a 519 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: complaint made against The dead a lot that their studio, 520 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: records you, know can't hold a candle to their live. 521 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Performances BUT i Think ace is the unique example of 522 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: The dead discooking hard in the. Studio and it's super tight. 523 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Too like if you're, like if you're, Like i'm not 524 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: into The, dead they just jam and space out or. 525 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Whatever this is The dead record for. You this Is 526 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Bobby Ace, dead this Is Polo shirt And Short Short's. Dead, 527 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: okay you're gonna love. IT i never saw The, dead 528 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: BUT i did get a chance to See dead and 529 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: co at femway like eight or nine years, ago and 530 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: it totally Ruled rip to The Great Bob. Weir. OKAY 531 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: i was talking About Disco Barry's Hot takes, earlier And 532 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: i've got one for you here in The mood For. 533 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Love wan car whis two thousand and one romantic, drama 534 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: which has been on so Many best of the twenty 535 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: first century to date. Lists i've never seen a wanng 536 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: Car why, film BUT i keep on hearing it in this. 537 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Conversation it's on The criterion, channel SO i fired it 538 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: up the other, night and what CAN i, Say, GUYS 539 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: i was just not moved one way or the other 540 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: by this at. All it's, beautiful it's beautifully, shot beautiful. 541 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Cinematography you cannot deny. That BUT i JUST i couldn't 542 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: find a way into. IT i don't, know MAYBE i 543 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: was having an off. Night this is going to sound 544 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: super nippicky and super, pedantic and you're going to roll 545 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: your eyes at. Me i'm, sorry But i'm going to say. 546 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: It wane Car why relies a lot on fades on 547 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: fading out in this, film at LEAST i don't know 548 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: how he does in his other. Movies but this fade 549 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: thing as cinematic punctuation or grammar instead of just cuts 550 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: or even a dissolve or two or. Whatever it made 551 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: the movie feel like a series of disconnected events or 552 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: moments for, me rather than a strung together. Narrative and 553 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: perhaps that's part of the reason WHY i personally failed 554 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: to take the ticket and ride the. Ride If i've. 555 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Offended any big wang Car y fans out, there let 556 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: me know What i'm missing here or tell me what 557 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: ELSE i should check out in his. FILMOGRAPHY i also 558 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: Watched breakdown nineteen seventy, five which is very much up 559 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: our alley. Here this is the New Morgan neville doc On. 560 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Netflix Morgan neville has made a lot of acclaimed. Documentaries 561 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: he Did Twenty feet From stardom about backup, singers which was. 562 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Great he did that one about Mister, Rogers Won't You 563 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: Be My. Neighbor he Made, roadrunner which was the movie 564 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: About Anthony. Bourdain he also made a Film i'm super 565 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: pumped for coming out soon Called man on The. Run 566 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: it's a documentary About paul McCartney and The beatles years 567 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: In wings in the. SEVENTIES i believe that premiere is 568 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: On Amazon prime next, month so get. Ready we'll talk 569 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: about that when it comes. Out but this, One breakdown 570 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, five it's all about what was happening In 571 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: america in the year nineteen seventy, five but it approaches 572 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: it via culture and mainly Via american films that were 573 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: released that. Year some call nineteen seventy five the greatest 574 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: year in. Cinema it's the year in which these iconic 575 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: portrayals of paranoia gives way to the iconic. Blockbuster, Right 576 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: it's the year Of, Jaws but it's also the year 577 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Of One Flew over The Cuckoo's, Nest Shampoo Dog Day, 578 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Afternoon Three days at The, Condor The Rocky Horror Picture, 579 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Show The, Passenger Monty, python And The Holy Grail, nashville 580 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: just to name a. Few the doc also brings into 581 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: the conversation films that came out the year before the year. 582 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: AFTER i sort of buffering. It there's a bunch On 583 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: Taxi driver in, here for, instance which is seventy, Six 584 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: but there's so much here about what was weighing on 585 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: the psyche Of america at the, time, WATER, Jfk, vietnam, crime, corruption, 586 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: distrust change both good and, bad and sound, familiar and 587 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: specifically how the, Movies hollywood movies that has big budget 588 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: movies really held a mirror up to all of this 589 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: before pivoting to a more crowd pleasing popcorn. MODEL i 590 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: think It's Patton oswald who says in the film that 591 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five was really the year when audience has 592 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: looked all this disturbing stuff head, on but it was 593 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: just too much to look, at so then everyone quickly turned. 594 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: Away so great idea for a, DOC i. THINK i, 595 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: MEAN i watched a documentary about any moment in time 596 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: and how the movies reflected or distorted that, reality, Right 597 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: and there's so much ingenious cutting between movie scenes and 598 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: real footage news footage here between make believe in. Reality 599 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a really fun, watch but it's a popcorn, watch you. 600 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: Know it's almost like the doc became what movies became 601 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: in the wake Of, jaws and don't get it. Twisted 602 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: i'm not saying that's a bad, thing but my one 603 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: criticism of this documentary is just that for such a 604 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: rich concept and rich, TEXT i really wanted it to 605 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: go a little deeper and give me some STUFF i didn't. 606 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Know you, Know i'm personally so entrenched in the world 607 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: of cinema and cinema, history AND i have been for so, 608 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: long and especially you know how locked in with Reality 609 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: american cinema was in the. SEVENTIES i just wanted the 610 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: doc to give me a little bit more than this 611 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: a good bucket of, popcorn you, KNOW i still recommend 612 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: this to everybody to check it out if you, haven't 613 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: And i'm curious what your thoughts, are if you had 614 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: the same RESPONSE i did to it or. Not i'm 615 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: also curious if you think that nineteen seventy five was 616 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: the greatest here for, cinema For american. Cinema if, not 617 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: what what was nineteen ninety? Four ninety? Nine let me 618 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: know you know how to do? It sixty one seven 619 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three. 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