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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have

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Speaker 1: different definitions of success. For you, it may be the

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Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine's inspiring people to develop a

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Speaker 1: plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading

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Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. You

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Speaker 1: can only exceed the expectations by believing in yourself. People

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Speaker 1: always talk about purpose of gifts. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: lead with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: My guest is John's Clarence Stewart, an Atlanta native. He

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Speaker 1: co starred on the ACCLAIM hit series P Valley on Stars.

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Speaker 1: Also start on the NBC winning winning show is always

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Speaker 1: a start in a playlist. The movie is always a

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Speaker 1: Straordinary Christmas. Just got two Emmy nominations for Outstanding the

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Speaker 1: Television Movie and I'll started out Standing Choreography for Scripted Programming.

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Speaker 1: He plays a totally different character of P Valley. P Valley,

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Speaker 1: which airs on Stars, is engrossing drama of family, friendship

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Speaker 1: and survival. The season that richly crafted, seriously about trust

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Speaker 1: from season one. The second season introduced the new character

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Speaker 1: called Big Teak, played by the one and only John

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Speaker 1: For the second time, I would call him a friend,

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Speaker 1: John Clarence Stewart. How are you doing certain, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: How were you? First of all, you know, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to Zoe before we get dive into p Valley.

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Speaker 1: It was this suave, cool guy, always smiling, you know,

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Speaker 1: flirty flirtations on this show. And let's talk about that show,

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Speaker 1: and uh, the big opportunity that gave you, because we've

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Speaker 1: seen you on other series Marvel, but this is an ongoing,

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Speaker 1: major role opportunity on NBC, one of the great flagship networks.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that, that opportunity and what it did for

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Speaker 1: your career being on Zoe. UM, Zoe changed a lot

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Speaker 1: of things for me. I was a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: I was unknown. Um, though I've done a lot of

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Speaker 1: is UM. But Zoeys was also very much out of

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Speaker 1: my comfort zone. Like I i auditioned for the show,

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a musical. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: a shot in the dark because I've never done something

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Speaker 1: like that before. And each step of the way it was,

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Speaker 1: It was dancing, it was singing, it was it was

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Speaker 1: that Zoways actually came out in pandemic time. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it became kind of this, this show, this lighthouse for

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Speaker 1: the beginning parts of the pandemic. This this like beacon

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Speaker 1: season two and UM Simon's arc got a little more

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Speaker 1: personal for me, and I was really excited about that

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Speaker 1: And being able to you know, lend my voice to

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Speaker 1: and um yeah, and I think, you know, it would

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Speaker 1: there and this was a straight street, this is straight urban,

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Speaker 1: They they got the they got the appointment. I read

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Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, I'm talking to John

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Speaker 1: This is Arizona Stars. Every Sunday night, I said, my

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Speaker 1: One one scene that you did, Man, I got the

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Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm ras Sean McDonald. I am your host