WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Fresh Faces 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:15.200 Cowboys, Let's go. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.319 Are you ready for a break? Yes? 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.200 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.360 Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.800 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:34.559 Were on right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.440 and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.000 It is Wednesday, August seventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.000 episode fourteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.360 live from ox Dard, California. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.120 We are rolling through training camp. Actually today is the midpoint. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.760 It is exactly halfway between the time we arrived and 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.000 the time that we will leave. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.640 So we're we're moving through this thing. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.280 And Cowboys actually get started with their preseason this weekend. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.600 So let's start getting a little more interesting rather than 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.720 just kind of being Groundhog's day around here in Oxnard. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.000 We are presented by LG. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.720 LG is the world's number one O led TV brand 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.800 for eleven years in counting see why at LG dot 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.119 com Ford slash O led Evo. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.880 All right, here's we're gonna do today. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.640 We're going to first start with some transactions at the 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.920 Cowboys made and right on, que we got our guys 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.680 out here making sure. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.880 And make you're gonna park it right there. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.440 They are making sure that these players have a good 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.120 field yes to be able to practice. I had someone 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.320 on Twitter asked me, you know, why are you gonna 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:39.000 tell them to stop it? 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.160 I'm like, yeah, man, we are not the priority. Podcast 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.039 is not the priority. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.320 Having these guys on a field where we don't have 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.720 a CLS getting busted every day is the priority. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.960 So do what you need to do. We'll figure it out, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.000 all right. But here's what we're gonna talk about. Some 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.720 transactions today the Cowboys made. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.440 We'll get into some practice observations, some things you guys 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.880 have seen over the last couple of practices, and then 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:00.720 we'll talk a little bit. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:01.720 About a couple different things. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.640 I have a couple different topics, one of them being 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.920 the safety position. I think as one position we have 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.440 not spent a lot of time talking about. So I 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.480 want to dive into that a little bit at some 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:11.760 point in today's show. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.480 Let's start with transactions. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.360 Yesterday Cowboys signed three players and they move Ceedee Lamb 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.519 to revert reserved did not report my assumption. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:22.679 Is that was more of just a move. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.880 You needed a roster spot, you make the move not 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.200 necessarily indicative of anything going on with contract. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:28.320 Is that how you guys read it? 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.359 Yeah, I see it that way. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.480 I mean it could if they felt like a CD 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.440 Lamb deal could get done by the end of the week, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.280 then maybe they don't make that kind of move. But 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.280 this is starting to trend more towards a thing that 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.240 I feel like happens by the end of camp. And 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.200 if that's the case, and that's one extra body that 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.520 they could have here at training camp, and so that's 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.400 what they do. They wanted to bring in three guys 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.600 on the defensive side of the ball. They were able 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.720 to do that yesterday by moving Lamb, so that did 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.880 not report lists. I mean, if you think about it, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.360 this is something they could have done maybe at the 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.560 beginning of camp, but you know, with the way the 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.880 negotiations are going on, it seems that the team is 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.600 comfortable pushing that out and maybe if he doesn't return 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.240 until the camp is over, then they're okay with doing that. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.880 I'm sorry to get antsy, because yes, this move doesn't 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.400 mean anything in the sense of like, yeah, and if 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.560 he was just signed today or whatever, they'll bring him 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.920 in and they're gonna make a spot for him and 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.320 room from him, obviously, But at the same time, it's like, oh, okay, well, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.320 I guess it's not happening today or maybe not tomorrow, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.120 or maybe not this weekend because you do need the bodies. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.799 But it's uh, we thought it was gonna happen last week, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.560 I felt like, and it's still. People keep asking on 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.680 on Twitter and everything. I haven't heard anything. I don't 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.680 think you guys have unless y'all did last night at 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:39.280 the party. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:40.480 I don't know what I'm talking about. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.320 It's up school, the insights. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:50.280 Come on, bring but the fans one on the show, Brian, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.200 have you heard anything? 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.200 I'm with this. I was at the party last night. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.640 I'll tell you this. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.320 When you start needing to worry is when it turns 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.720 into game checks because the way the rules fall down, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.360 you know, if you look at what Lamb makes, he 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.040 could lose a million dollars a game, and so all 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.760 of a sudden, now you start missing games. Right now, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.880 you're in that phase where you're you know you're getting fined, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.360 but they can all rescind the fines. We talked about 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.359 that a bunch, so I think they're working through things 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.719 right now. I to me, it's more about, like, you 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.200 have an idea what the numbers are going to be 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.720 with the parameters, where are they going to fall? How 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.640 close can you get him to the top receiver? You 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.159 know obviously the cowboys, you know, they don't want to 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.560 reset the market. That's something I've always found with Steven 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.560 Jones and Adam Pacific and those guys. If you come 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.680 in at or under, they seem to work those numbers 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.239 a little bit better and it makes them feel better 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.120 about what they're doing here. So but when you start 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.880 missing games, that's when it becomes I think, very very 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:57.520 serious here. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:58.440 So we'll see if that. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.360 I don't think they're gonna get that point, but pack, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.080 you know, this thing has kind of gone on a 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.000 little bit longer than I thought it would myself. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:12.359 Yeah, I get the suspicion that it's not necessarily the number. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:13.599 And when I say the number, the. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.680 Average that he makes for you, I don't think that's 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.400 really probably what's driving or slowing this thing down. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.560 The fact of the matter is, when you're talking about 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.120 a deal like this. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.840 There's a lot of other factors of how you structure 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.520 the deal that will affect cash flow, that will affect 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.760 how the Cowboys pay it out, that will affect how 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.120 it will hit the salary cap over the next several years. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.880 I suspect that that's probably more what holds this up 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.320 because I think everybody sees the writing on the wall, right, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.359 you know what the numbers probably are, just because you 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.200 know where he slots relative to other receivers around the NFL. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.680 So I don't you know, it's one of those things 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.160 like that's the hard part of this is when you 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.920 start getting into the details and making sure all that 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.599 can work not only for CD but also for the 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.560 Cowboys and what they have to do with Dak, what 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.800 they got to do with maybe Micah or presumably Micah 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.560 and everybody else that's coming up the next couple of 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:01.840 years when it comes to new deals. 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.000 Yeah, this is a the heat to me. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.000 When you look at Lamb and people always say, when 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.360 you give a guy a contract, are you expecting what 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:12.480 do you expect? 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.479 He's gotten better every year? Yeah? 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.800 Yes, so you when you start to look at the 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.719 players around the league at wide receiver, he fits in 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.160 with those guys. When you start to talk about the 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.839 best receivers. He is one of those guys, and he's 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.000 gotten better every single year he plays. And you're as 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.040 a front officer thinking, if you give a guy a contract, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.560 you don't want it to be two years in and 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.520 then all of a sudden we're eating dead money at 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.080 the end of it. You want a guy that's making 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.400 you know, is every year it's going you know, okay, hey, yes, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.600 he's earning this, he's earning this, and Ceedee Lamb. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.560 To me, is that type of guy. You know he is. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.200 He is that guy that if you watch him play, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.640 he has gotten better. Now there's people out there and say, well, wait, broadus, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.080 what happened in the playoff games? 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:58.960 What are we doing? You know? 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.000 I mean there's a lot of things in the playoffs 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.520 you can talk about this football team. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.640 It's just not Ceedy Lamb. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.160 But to me, if I'm looking at the front office 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.200 aspect of it, I'm looking at it as like, hey, guys, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:12.600 I it doesn't take. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:13.400 Long to call the role. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.920 He's in a room where he's very comparable to guys 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.320 playing at a very very high level. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.800 Yeah you know what drives me nuts? Oh? Sorry, what 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.600 you I was gonna say just real quick. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.720 What drives me nuts is and again I don't work 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.840 in that in that room, like I don't deal with contracts, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.640 so I understand that it can be very, very complex. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.200 But at the same time, you know this was expected. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.480 You know Dak's contract coming up, CDs MIC's coming up next, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.440 You know kind of what those numbers are gonna look like. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.520 Sure you were waiting to see what other players we're 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.800 gonna get, but you get it. You have an idea. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.960 So it drives me crazy knowing what they did not 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.520 do during the off season because of cap money and 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.960 they were unable to do. And then we're sitting here 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.240 at this point where it is getting closer and closer 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.640 to the season, and I understand how valuable and obviously 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.920 they do too, how valuable it is to have CD 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.800 out here. We know it's gonna take up a ramp 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.360 up period, Nick, you talked about it the other day. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.320 We know that what that's gonna look like, but we 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.880 also know how that can hurt the team as far 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.480 as like when the season actually starts and all of that. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.360 So it's just it's it's always. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.960 Wild when we're sitting here this far into camp, talking 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.960 about contracts because you know what's coming, you know. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.080 Yeah, And I think an interesting part too, just the 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:40.640 entire negotiation factors are the little nuances, and those nuances 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.240 change every time that another receiver gets done or the 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.200 rumors starts swirling about another receiver getting done. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.120 So let's just look at this week, for example. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.240 Let's say they started the week with an understanding of 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.839 where both sides were at the negotiation. You know, one 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.559 side maybe feels optimistic or upbeat, you know, Stephen Jones 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.880 has said a couple of times. And then a deal 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.640 like Tyreek Hill gets done where he didn't necessarily add 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.520 more money, but he got more guaranteed money than any. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.000 Receiver in NFL history. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.880 So you add that nuance into the entire negotiation, that 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.920 adds a whole different thought over right. Yeah, and then 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.520 now you're looking at this Brandon Nyuk situation, the Ceedee 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.760 Lamb and his representation fall back and say, hey, let's 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.319 kind of see what happens here, because there's the Steelers 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.239 that are trying to make an offer for him, the Patriots, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.000 the Browns, and if he were to get traded, then 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.680 they signed an extension for him as well. And that's 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.160 in the same draft class, and that probably impacts more 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.320 than what Tyreek Hill could have impacted as far as 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 the nuances of the steal. So there's so many different 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.280 factors and different players that are involved within these two 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:39.640 sides of the negotiation as well. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.559 Yeah, you got a team in this Brandon Nyuk thing. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.720 And I was talking to my buddies in San Francisco 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.920 about it yesterday and they're like, listen, whichever way this goes, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.520 we've got this thing covered, you know, wherever it comes 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.800 back in compensation now. And you're right about Brandon Ayuk. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.200 I mean, if he ends up in New England, there's 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.480 a team that needs weapons, there's a team to willing 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.400 to pay. There's a team that you know again, how 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.240 the Hills situation, Ayuk? I mean, everybody's waiting to see 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.640 and it seems like maybe you make some steps forward 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.760 in this negotiation and then some other thing gets thrown 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.160 into the mix that totally will Wait a minute, we 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.560 didn't think about this, you know, Well, wait a minute, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.240 we had a deal. Well no, we don't have a 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.960 deal now because we just got some new information. So 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.680 the front office is chasing a lot of that right now. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.520 It's a hard thing to do to come up with 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:30.960 these deals. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.680 And like I said, there's a lot of different fronts 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:34.960 when you're talking about a deal like this. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.080 It's not just the overall money. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.959 There's a lot of other factors that go into how 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:39.880 it has to be structured. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.960 And I think that's a lot of what's going on here. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.959 All right, let's talk about the guys that they signed. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.680 Give me a rundown on linebacker Darius Harris, defensive tackle 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.640 Albert Huggins, and linebacker Nick Vigil. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.079 Yeah, if I could, I'll start with Nick Vigil, a 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.040 third round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals back in twenty sixteen. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.360 So at the time, current Cowboys defensive run game coordinator 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.280 Paul Gunther was the defensive coordinator for the Bengals, and 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.000 so he was his coach for two years and then 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.160 later in his career, Nick Vigil had a season with 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.320 Mike Zimmer up in Minnesota in twenty twenty one, so 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.480 a lot of experience and knowledge of the system Nick 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.560 Vigil has coming in here. Had started twelve games, accounted 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.080 for eighty five tackles in that season with the Vikings. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.400 Back in twenty twenty one, he had an injury that 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.280 he battled in twenty twenty two, and it kind of 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.480 resorted him to the practice squad of the Vikings in 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:27.520 twenty twenty three. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.679 But nevertheless, it's another guy. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.079 In the building that knows the system could help bring 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.840 these young guys up to speed. And then Albert Huggins 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.480 six foot three, three hundred and five pound defensive tackle, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.440 and O'Brien will probably talk a little bit more about 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.520 his alignment. I feel like he's more fit to be 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.000 a three tech, maybe to rotate in with Osa Digizua. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.040 But five seasons he's been in the NFL, five different 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.040 teams that he's played for, so this will be team 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.199 number six for him. But he started in five games 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.640 for the Atlanta Falcons last season and accounted for twenty 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.640 two tackles, by far, the most action he's participated in 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.679 his NFL career, so coming off of a lot of experience. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.040 He also had a very brief stint with Mike Zimmer 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.160 in Minnesota back in twenty twenty on the practice squad, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.079 and then Darius Harris. He spent four season with the 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.240 Kansas City Chiefs, undrafted linebacker out of Middle Tennessee State 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.880 in twenty nineteen, he participated in thirty three games. His 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.360 best season came at twenty twenty two. He played in 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.760 all seventeen games and racked up forty three tackles. So 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.760 pretty good to have a two time Super Bowl chap 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.600 on your roster as well. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.400 Yeah, let's do this real quick, Brian, I want to 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.679 take the break and come back. I'm how Brian, give 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.360 us a gattery report on these three guys. I know 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.440 you've watched all three. 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All right, so, Brian, as we were going 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.000 to break, we had mentioned the three guys that the 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:39.960 Cowboys signed. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.680 Give us some scatter reports on these players. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.000 Yeah, they'll start with Virgil and he's kind of been 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.080 a guy that's when you watch him play, maybe a 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.480 career special teams guy with you know, with his mainly 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.560 that's how he's always kind of stayed on teams. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.480 First off, I was a little bit surprised that they. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.440 Were bringing in linebackers. I don't know how you guys feel. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.000 Watching practice, I kind of felt like that this room 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.000 has shown up at linebacker a little bit. And I 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.680 it to me, you know, maybe it might be like 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.080 they they not get with the one out of these 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.240 guys special teams wise, his bones kind of because if 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.480 you look at it, Virgil and you also look at Harris, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.400 kind of guys that play a lot of special teams 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.400 and play on all different special teams. So maybe it's like, Okay, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.880 guys that know what we're going to do, how we're 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.560 going to play, how we're going to line up, But 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.480 give you that ability to block, that the return ability 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:35.320 and all that. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.920 So can I throw this out just a question for you. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.360 You think maybe it's partially because they like a lot 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.880 of their linebackers, a lot of them. They may say, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.760 we don't necessarily want to play them in the preseason. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:46.800 Somebody like Overshowing. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:47.960 You would think it's got to be a lot in 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:49.840 the preseason, but because of the injury, they may not, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.960 and they're like, we need bodies to be able to 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:52.760 play these games. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:58.520 I'm interested to ask because it's not an area if 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.920 you're bringing in defensive tackle, I understand, you know, if 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.639 they were bringing secondary help, I would go why you know? 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.320 Or the linebacker help? Why? 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.159 So that's what you do today is you try and 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.560 go up and ask somebody like, Okay, what what was 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.480 the thought about you know, the linebackers here? 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.800 And to your point, I don't have. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.600 A great answer for you because that's not a position 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.240 I would have attacked. I would have thought, Okay, I've 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.119 got some young guys here, you know, I want to 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.200 see them play. But you know, I don't know. That's 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.080 it was surprising to me. But when you start to 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.280 talk about with with Virgil and what he's done, he 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.680 plays really as an inside linebacker, and that's more than 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.640 you know. You think, oh, well, is he a Mike 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.359 or is he a Will Sam? More of a Sam linebacker. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.200 The thing about him is he's an aware player. He's 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.160 a good tackler in open space. There were a couple 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:51.960 of times when the ball got thrown and he got 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.399 putting coverage and the ball went to the outside and 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.560 it was it was like a third down play, third 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.119 and short, and they throw it to the flat to 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.840 the back and he immediately makes the tackle for no 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.080 gain and now you're like off the field. So that 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.920 part of it was when you look at him, you 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.639 can put him in coverage. He's an aware player. He 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.720 uses his hands well from what I saw, you know, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.840 getting rid of blockers or a couple of times where 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.399 guys came on him, he was able to engage and 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.639 then get rid of the guy and then still find 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.119 the football. I'd like to see a little bit better 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.800 burst from him. There were some times where you could 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.600 tell that everybody else was moving and he was moving, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.600 but there wasn't that like you'll see these guys out here, 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.240 Like if you watch Clark and those guys, they cover. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.680 Some ground when they're running to chase the football. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.840 So i'd like to see a little bit better burst 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.200 from him that way. But the strike as a tackler's good. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.600 I don't see a lot of quickness with the guy, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.919 which is again something you see out here with these linebackers. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.800 There is some guys that can run. There's some like 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.119 when they read it, they go. He's a little bit 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.880 of a guy that when he sees it he's gonna go. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.560 But I think that's his strength right now. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.120 Is his awareness to be able to play the position 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.760 and get over and then make the play. But he 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.680 is a really really good tackle or tackler. I think 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.960 he's going to be a rotational linebacker forim here and 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:17.120 the special team. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.200 Stuff that I mentioned. So, and then you get to 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:20.080 Darius Harris. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.680 I watched him quite a bit on special teams as well, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.560 just because I was curious about him. He's got some 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.480 size to him, He's got some quickness off the ball, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.639 unlike with what you have with Virgil there. I'd like 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.160 to see him adjust a little bit better in space. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.800 That was something that when you watch him play, he's 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.800 kind of a bigger guy, and it was like he 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.560 was not unsure, but it was like the ball was 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.840 here and he was having you and then oh, come back, 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.359 but there was not that quick processing to it. It 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.400 was like, Oh, there it is now. I gotta think, 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:53.760 you know, I like to see him play a little 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.320 bit better that way. I think it's straight ahead speed 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.119 is really good. The lateral stuff not so much, I 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.240 think all but he's one of those guys that if 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.639 it's attacking, he's going to be good that way with it. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:13.040 So special teams rotational linebacker kind of fits into what 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.760 you're doing without the It's got the size, but doesn't 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.399 have the quickness or the burst that these guys have 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.119 right now. Albert Huggins I mentioned I watched the games 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.080 where he was playing the defensive tackle. The Packers game 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.760 is one of the games he plays both as a 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.000 nose and as a three technique. You're right, Nick, I 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.720 think he's a little bit, probably more of a three 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.480 than this, but he does have some lateral slide to 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:41.000 his game. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:41.920 You see him. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.840 Maybe they're trying to kind of figure out a backup 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.560 spot for OsO Diggizuwa out here. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:48.960 You know, is it Golston? 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.680 If maybe if all of a sudden Huggins works out, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.199 you can move Golston maybe to another spot. So that 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.359 might be what we're trying to do here. But he 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.200 does have quickness, he'll hold the point of attack. There's 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.680 some squareness to his game. And when I say squareness, 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.360 he'll take on. You don't see his he's wearing number 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.080 ninety four. You didn't see him get turned or moved 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.959 out of the hole that way. So but you know 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.760 there were times where they they kind of were uh 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.000 where he was able to get down the line of scrimmage. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.639 He beat the cutoff blocks, the reach blocks. You know, 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.880 he's he's he can get kind of trapped in one area. 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.280 So you know, you want to see maybe a little 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.320 bit better extend and then a little bit better of 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:28.920 getting rid. 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:29.280 Of the guy. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.480 But you see him upfield and he wins upfield. I'd 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.879 like to see a little bit more better awareness of 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.840 the down block, like he would engage and then he 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.560 wouldn't feel the block coming. 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:42.760 A lot of these guys could feel that and know 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:43.280 that and. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.760 Work around that block, and he kind of got blocked 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:46.960 when it was that down block. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:48.360 He was kind of taking that on. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.600 And I'm like, man, how many times are you gonna 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.000 get hit in the side before you realize they're down 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:56.400 blocking you in this game? So I think I think 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.879 he'll I think he'll be a good addition to trying 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:02.679 to figure out can he play a little one and 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:03.480 help him? 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.760 But can he play that three and maybe be. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.200 Behind Osa and then allow like I said, allows them 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.960 to move golst into another spot. 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.480 That's good stuff. All right, Let's let's move on. 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.359 Let's get some practice notes over the last couple practices. 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.199 Let's go down the line. Tell me some things that 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.560 you notice, some things jumped out of em. Let's start 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:21.760 with you. 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.200 Well, can I go on a quick rant, real fun. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.320 Absolutely, Like I'm gonna say, Noah, like you're about my 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.080 scouting reports? 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:42.520 No, but yeah, so every year, I you know, we 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.399 get excited before the season starts and blah blah blah. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.960 But you know, being there done that. In my case, 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:51.600 I've learned my lesson type of thing. 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:53.120 I'm like, no, I'm not gonna get. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.200 Excited about nothing. Y'all better show me in the playoffs 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:57.080 not doing. 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:57.639 This, you know. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:03.000 So, But the Cowboys tend to have some spark that 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.919 they work their magic, and I'm a victim again that 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.400 I'm about to jump on the roller coaster. But there's 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.520 something that is really really exciting. The other day on 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.600 the other show, Ryan, you mentioned Mike Zimmer and what 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.880 he's been doing with the defense. To me, the more 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.040 and more I watch, the more and more excited I 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.760 get because it's such a different look than what we 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.320 are used to seeing with the Cowboys defense in recent years. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:31.400 The way that he's. 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:37.359 Disguising guys, you know, plays and and just the trick 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.040 aspect where you would watch other teams do things like 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:41.760 that and we're like, why can't we ever have that? 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.920 Why can't we ever Like I'm missing I. 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:56.160 Can't think of the word, but just tricking the eye. 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.320 But the point is what. 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:03.760 He's what he's doing, what he's doing right now with 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.600 all of that, it's such a different look. I think 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.520 it's gonna be very very exciting for fans to see, 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.840 for us to watch this season, and it's allowing guys 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.760 to be positioned better to allow them to be more 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.480 explosive and more creative and like get to the place 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.320 where they need to be and I think the defense 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.960 yesterday's practice, they had a really good day. Everything that 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.840 they did, they won. In my opinion, they won the day. 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:34.160 They were the better group yesterday and everyone's looking it's 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.040 just exciting. And I got a chance to talk to 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.320 Trevon Diggs and I asked him, Hey, you've been standing 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.960 on the sidelines for quite a while. Who has a 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.080 guy who's a guy that's been standing out to you? 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.199 And he mentioned killing Carson. He's a guy that he's like. 0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.359 He he's really quick, very very good with his footwork, 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.359 his handwork, and he's when you watch him on field, 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.800 aside from what happens on here, when you go into 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.200 the film room and start watching what he's doing, he's 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:00.760 a guy to look forw He's been. 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:01.720 Very very impressive. 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:06.320 Yeah, I'm gonna piggyback off that with another corner that 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.200 I think is just having a phenomenal camp, and that's 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:08.840 Jordan Lewis. 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.080 Got darn it man. 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.280 Looking at what he's been able to do over the 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.920 course of these these couple of weeks. Men, he's been phenomenal. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.919 And I think that there's a couple of things that 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.080 play into that. A it's different than last camp, for 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.320 him in the sense that he's been healthy the whole offseason. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.560 He's been able to improve this whole offseason instead of Hey, 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.240 trying to get healthy and trying to make it in 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.560 time for training camp. There's a different mindset that I 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.720 think plays into that. And then you know last year 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.600 he was just getting comfortable being on the field again 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.920 after that List Frank injury to his foot that was 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.639 career threatening at one point. But you see that confidence 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.480 not only in his body but with his ability. The 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.720 way he ended the season last year. The Detroit game 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.320 really sticks out to me as a game that he 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.800 really stood out in. But just yesterday diving interception of 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.720 Dak Prescott, it was the first one that Dak has 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.080 thrown since they've been in pads, and then he had 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.159 another one in the corner of the end zone that 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.000 he went up with one hand and could have brought 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:01.360 it down but just missed it. 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.280 He's he's all over the place. 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.520 You see the physicality that's starting to come back with 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.720 Jordan Lewis, and that's what we saw at the end 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.960 of the year last year. So he's just taking where 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.159 he left off in twenty twenty three and moving it 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:13.400 right into twenty twenty four. 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:14.159 Really loved that. 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.080 And then one other thing that I'll point out from 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.320 yesterday's practice specifically is they did a session with a 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.919 goal line work and they were throwing in a different 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.160 array of running backs trying to get those one two 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.399 yards to get into the end zone, and the defense 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.000 was a stone wall. I think they got him three 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.200 consecutive reps, which was really huge for that defensive unit, 0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.160 and you could see, like whenever they were making those stops, 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.399 you could see how much confidence was being built on 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.600 that defensive side of the ball. So if you're worried 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.360 about interior defensive line like I am, then that's definitely 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.720 a that's definitely a positive mark you could look at. 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.640 I'll tell you you're absolutely right about Jordan Lewis defensive 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.200 holding penalty. We had the reference here, we'll. 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.720 Take our ones where we get um and I I 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.159 was trying to think who was going to get the 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:59.120 first defensive holding penalty because these guys will I thought 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:00.520 it was a good day over And I think you're 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.760 absolute right about Jordan. 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.960 Lewis and the player personnel trailer over there, they're watching 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.720 film at night and they're trying to figure out how 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:09.080 to get. 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.000 Jalen Cropper on this team is what they're trying to do. 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.320 He's making them a wide receiver in that room. Have 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.760 to think about how many receivers are we going to carry? 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.440 Are we going to be able to carry six? 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.040 Do we carry five? How is this going to play out? 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.960 He continues to make play after play, and it doesn't 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.280 matter what group he could run with. The ones he 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.800 makes place, he runs with, the twos he makes place, 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.040 he runs with, the threes, he makes plays. It just 0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.640 seems like every time that you hear bones fossil, it's 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.040 third and four, it's fourth and three, they throw the 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.560 ball to sixteen and it's a first down, or they 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.040 get down in tight red zone and. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:49.280 He's able to separate. 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.680 He is making it very difficult keep an eye on him, 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:58.000 especially this weekend, if it turns into or maybe all 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:02.800 the preseason games. Does he function on special teams because 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.200 all of a sudden, if you see and you've noticed 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.680 number sixteen, he's gonna have to make his team. 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:09.720 Being a complete guy. 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.800 I don't think he could just be catch your guy 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.440 or you know, but he is making that group over 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.040 there in that personnel trailer. 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.920 Have to think about keeping a spot on this roster 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:21.320 for him. 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.760 I'll throw out a name, and it's a guy that's 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:29.240 a name that everybody knows, and quite frankly, I just 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.359 over the last two practices I've started noticing him more. 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:33.800 It's Zeke Elliott. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.760 He is not a guy obviously at running back. It's 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.480 hard at training training camp to really see things from 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.800 running backs, even linebackers that really impress me because the 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.880 primary function of both of their jobs don't happen out here. 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.720 Running Backs don't break tackles out here. Linebackers don't linebackers 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.840 don't tackle out here, so you're not gonna really find 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.440 out a lot about them until you get into the 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.200 real games. But what I've seen from Zeke that made 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.560 me a little more excited is he has a little 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.320 more whig then I think I've I thought he still 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.280 had at this point in his career. I thought of 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.880 him more as just kind of that guy who was 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.040 kind of find the whole, kind of get into it. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.800 But he's been out here, he's been a little more. 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.160 Spry over the last couple of practices, and that that 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.880 made me kind of it didn't pique my interest to 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.800 make me see just you know where I think he's 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.320 gonna gonna be and what he can possibly be for 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.360 this team this season. He did have, as we said, 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.480 we keep saying, he had a better second half of 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.200 the year last year than the first half, and and 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.680 could just be a situation where you really can get 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.160 some really good production out of Zeke Elliott. I'm starting 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.000 to get a little more excited about that at this point, 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.360 just seeing some of the things I've seen out here 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:36.760 in last. 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.400 Hey, Rico Dabble is backing up either now, I mean 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.880 backing up in a way of like, Okay, Zeke, it's 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.240 all yours. I think that Rico is trying to put 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.720 and I know that they're they're working Zeke, and you're 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.840 mentioned a couple of days you are seeing. I felt 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.920 like in the early practices. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:52.720 We really weren't seeing Zeke. 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.840 I agree, yeah, And it's I remember Todd Arch and 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.360 I were talking like is he practicing? And I'm like, 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.840 I don't feel like he is, But you are seeing. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.600 You're right, you are seeing a little bit more from him, 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.840 uh in that regard. But I I don't think Rico 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.080 Dawdell is going to just give him this job. They'll 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.760 probably say okay, you could be the guy. You know, 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.680 they're probably the front office, Okay, you're Zeke, You're gonna 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.520 But Rico Dawdell is making it interesting too as well 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.600 that the way he's kind of playing with some complete 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.320 the running ability to catching the ball and then some 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.760 of the blitz pick up stuff as well. 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.080 And I think regardless of how the depth chart stacks up, 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.400 Rico Dawdell's going to have more opportunities than he had 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:29.880 last year. 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:31.240 Yeah, that's just based. 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:31.760 On his health. 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.400 Is always the question that if you know, if you 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.680 if you told me this is going to sound crazy, 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:39.920 you told me he was going to be healthy for 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.000 seventeen weeks. 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.959 He's a better player right now than Ezekiel Elliott. 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:44.440 I agree with that. 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.960 I think the scene he is, he is a better 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:47.960 player right now. 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.400 If you said, okay, we are going to have to 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.640 run the football and and you know, and I I'm 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.000 not ever against putting the things in Dak Prescott's hands 0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.640 because he was a you know what you saw last year. 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.000 I don't want him throwing the ball forty five times 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.720 a game. But I will say this though, the guy 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.640 that seems to give me a little bit of like, Okay, 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.240 maybe this running game can average four yards four and 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.600 a half yards and carry. I kind of feel like 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.920 that's Rico Daddle right now. And I but I this 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.040 room is still got me a little bit. Is there 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.760 somebody else? Is there somebody else out there? 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.280 I still feel like they just have three RB twos 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:27.400 that they're just gonna throw on. 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.720 I don't disagree with you on that, but I think 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.080 that I think the thing with Rico Daddle, if I 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.960 didn't have this injury concern in my head, I would 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.040 I would totally say he no, he can, you know, 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.000 put the put the put the equipment on the wagon 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.280 and let him pull the wagon. 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.080 But here's the thing, like I think, if they can 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.240 get solid production out of Zeke, which is why I've 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:50.960 been happy with what I've seen these last couple of days, 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.920 they can get solid production from Zeke and what you 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.240 say about Rico and what they like about Hunter Lipke, 0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:58.880 because I think he will have that will have a 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.920 different role than yesterdydditional fullback, right, He'll get some carries 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.360 in there too. I think now this running back room 0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.120 is starting to kind of I'm starting to get an 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.240 image in my mind of what it can be and 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.400 how it could possibly work. Again, everything has to work out. 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.960 Like you don't have a lot of room for air here. 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.800 But if everything works out, I'm starting to get a 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:15.760 vision for what it can be. 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.680 If you if you told me it was Rico Dabdele 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:24.080 Hunter lipke In Turpen mixed in. I think I can 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.560 find a way to run the football. Yeah, I think 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.000 I can. But again, it has to be about the 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.320 tight ends and it has to be the you know, 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.959 how things play out because I completely trust Smith and 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.400 I trust Martin Steele. You know, we got to you know, 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.160 he's trying to work his way back into things. But 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.320 they've got to get it. They've got to have some 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.560 better point of attack blocking from these Titans. They got 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.520 to figure out somebody that can that can handle that role. 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.280 All right, let's go ahead and take our final break. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.479 We will come back in just a second. We'll get 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.120 into a couple more topics that we want to hit 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:58.120 here before we end the show. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:32:59.239 Is Dallas Cowboys dot com. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.920 Rio it's the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys, 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.000 Jack Black and right now, Cowboys fans can get fifteen 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.120 percent off their seventy five dollars order plus. 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They both missed 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.960 the season. They're back now and. 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.640 Practicing really from the beginning of camp. They've been out there. 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.440 Let's talk a little bit about what you guys have 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.400 seen from Marvin Overshown and from John Stevens. 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.800 Yeah, I'll start with h I'll start with John Stevens. 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.279 He's bigger. Have you not seen anything. 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.520 O I have seen from Overshaw? I just figured out 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:18.760 lest you have overshown there down. 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.840 There if you want, because yeah, yeah, go ahead. 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.440 I'll take both. I'll start with John Stevens junior. He's 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.440 he's definitely bigger. And that was the first thing we 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.200 saw whenever he started to get on uh the chords 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.480 with h with Britt Brown during mini camp and we 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.760 see him out there on the field and it's like, goodness, 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:35.040 who's that. 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.720 It's like, oh, it's John Stevens. Like he's he's just bigger. 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:37.960 Now. 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:39.440 We were able to talk to him a couple of 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.120 weeks ago twelve thirteen pounds of added mass that he's added, 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.920 So he's starting to factor into that tight end position 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.200 a little bit more rather than you know, the receiver 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.080 experience that he had from college at Louisiana Lafayette. But 0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.160 the thing with him, he's having the drops. He's a 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.400 little bit out here at camp. That being said, you 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.560 still see the route tree on display. You still see 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.560 his a bill to be a receiving tight end at 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.600 the end of the day. I think these preseason games 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.719 will be really big for him at the at the 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.920 very end of it, because if he can show that 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.399 he has some point of attackability, not necessarily the best 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.080 on the roster, but some point of attackability, and he 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.040 can pair that with you know, a three four five 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.480 catch game and connect with Cooper Rush, connect with Trey Lance, 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.400 then I think he ends up finding a roster spot 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:21.640 I do. 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.279 And then with Demarvin Overshown, man, he's like a bat 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:24.759 out of hell. 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.920 I mean every time that he's hitting the field, he's 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:31.360 trying to go one percent. And it was funny because 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:32.960 after the first day that he hit the field, Mike 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.000 McCarthy was like, yeah, he maybe went a little bit 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.920 too hard as GPS numbers and analytics data came back 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.960 a little too high than we want. So from me, 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.520 what I see from him, I see I see communication. 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.440 I see him playing different roles. Even when Eric Kendricks 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:49.920 has been out of practice, He's been asked to do 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.120 a couple of different things and he's shined in those roles. 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.480 I think him and Marrius Luifou are gonna be a 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.520 really fun duo as time goes on. And that's not 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.840 to factor out DeMont Clark because I think he's a 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.759 part of that young group as well. But on that 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.400 same token, Overshown, I think he has that youth that 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.359 he just attacks the field with and that's really great 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.680 to see coming off of a torn acl he still 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.600 has that attackability and I think that's going to translate 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:13.680 onto the field on Sunday. 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.200 Yeah, real quick, when you mentioned demon Clark. I think 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.239 it's all of us probably are like you think of 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.839 him and you think veteran. Yeah, he's a young guy, 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.560 I mean really, and he came into the NFL already injured, 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.400 came back from injury much fascinating at the spot, Like 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.799 he is just a young I. 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:30.000 Don't know if he was going to play again. 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:30.759 Yeah, yeah, I. 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.200 Mean he is a young guy, and I'm very excited 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.160 about him just because of the things I'm seeing out here, 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.799 but more importantly just thinking about the fact he's still 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:38.720 got a long runway. 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:39.200 He really does. 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.600 He He had availability the other day, I believe it 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.880 was on Monday, and I asked him. I was like, Okay, 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.040 you had these this veteran in the room and Eric Kendricks. 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.000 That's really helped bringing you along. It's a great mentor 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:49.600 for you. But at the same time, there's so many 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.640 young guys in the room that you're kind of having 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.600 a mentor and help, you know, kind of teach the 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.239 cowboy way in a way. I was like, do you 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.799 kind of feel like the middle child in the room, 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.200 And he was like, yeah. 0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:58.520 I actually do. 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.560 That's actually yeah. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.319 So he's the guy that I think can benefit from 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.960 both areas of it. He can benefit from learning from kindricks, 0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.160 he can benefit from teaching these young guys. 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:14.480 So with overshown for me, you know when okay, he 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.759 was a rookie last year. You know when if there's 0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.799 a guy that's a rookie that get hurt they come back, 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.600 there's still the lack of experience there. They're still like, Okay, 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.040 this is gonna be the one year, two year player 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.400 type of deal. But with him, you can tell that 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.800 he has done the work despite of him being injured 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.280 and out all this time, you can tell he's been studying. 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.600 He has not missed a beat. 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.120 I thought it would take some time for him to 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:45.000 slowly start transitioning back into the groove and all of that. 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.080 But no, he looks like he was up there last year. 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.480 Like he doesn't look like he just came back from 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:57.080 an injury. He looks great. His attitude, it's amazing. I 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.560 love you you guys know. I always talk about energy 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.560 and by and all that. He got all the right 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.480 vives and all the right attitude. So I'm super super 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.399 excited to see him playing actual football in a real 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.200 game outside of practice. And then for John Stevens, he's 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.319 a guy that caught many many eyes last training camp 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.040 and we were all excited. Very unfortunate injury, but similar 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.920 to what you were mentioning, Nick, I mean to me 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.440 right now, I haven't seen a whole lot from him, 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:29.799 so still I think mentally the injury may be kind 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.960 of affecting him a little bit more than with overshown. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.160 But I think he's gonna put in the work and 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.719 I'm excited as well to see him in the preseason. 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.640 I think he has the talent, but he's just gonna 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.360 take him maybe a little bit longer. 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.239 I'm also trying to call back to last preseason and 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.320 last training camp when it came to John Stevens Junior, 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.399 and I don't feel like we really started talking about 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.160 him until about this point. 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.960 That's where I'm at right now, because you're right about 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.520 when you watch him run the routes, you can see 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.040 that he's getting confidence and his knee, the ability to 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.800 get up the field, sink, to go to the outside 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.879 to break and all that for a big, tall guy. 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.760 He does play with some bend. The concentration drops bother. 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:11.959 Me a little bit with this guy. 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.840 But I kind of felt like last year that we 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.200 were talking about him. You know, like this now we're 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.920 kind of like, okay, we's kind of here right now. 0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.880 And so you know, but these these guys that have 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.960 come back from these knee injuries, it seems like it 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.320 has taken them some time. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.160 Maybe that's something we should worry about too, with Digs 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.680 a little bit. 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.600 Yea, you know that it wasn't it, Oh, Steal Pollard, 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.719 all these guys that came back from knee and problems, 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.160 injury problems, it took them a little bit time to 0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:40.920 get going, just. 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:42.239 Them guys around the league. 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.200 Yeah, I just feel like we just immediately think, yeah, 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.319 Diggs is gonna be an. 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.440 All, you know, and you're like, oh, he needs to 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.080 practice a little bit out here today. 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:54.200 You know. But I with Stevens, I could see it. 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.879 I can see it, and I'm looking forward to him 0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:00.600 in these preseason games and stuff. Over I like what 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.800 you guys are saying about overshown. I'm kind of waiting 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.040 for him to really cut it loose. 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.719 He could be. He could be just. 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:11.160 As disruptive if as Michael Parson's is in a practice. 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.359 You know, he could be that kind of guy. There's 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.000 been some times where I was kind of like when 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.960 he's on the field, I'm thinking, Okay, he's just gonna 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.359 you can watch some nine on seven stuff and he'll 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.359 beat some blocks and like, okay. But then you get 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:24.759 in the team and I don't feel like I see 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.560 him in the teamwork as much doing those things I 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.799 do see him, So I think they're kind of trying 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.200 to get him going again. Yeah, he could play six 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.239 plays and make three tackles. That's the kind of ability 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.399 he has out here. And so I you know, I've 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:45.000 noticed Lufile a lot, I've noticed Clark a lot. I've 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.560 even you know, we talk about Willie Harvey, I've noticed him. 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.759 I mean, there's guys you're noticing, and I just I'm 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.960 just waiting for that time where I'm watching I'm watching 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.759 team and it might be in this Rams scrimmage coming up. 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.440 He's just flying downhill and making every single play. 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:08.920 But he's he is a really really He's helped himself 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.319 coming back from the injury with his physical conditioning and 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:13.440 that's made a big difference. 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:13.759 I think. 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.040 Yeah, I think the big thing for him is he 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.040 does have the ability, the luxury of being able to 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:20.399 kind of ease back in right. 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.560 I think that the drafting of Leaphile. I think you're 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.920 right seeing some things from him. 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:25.919 I think Damon Clark is having as good a camp 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.080 out here as almost anybody. So I think with him 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.600 and then obviously bringing in Eric Kendricks, I think you've 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.840 got guys that give Overshowing a little bit more of 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.920 a runway to be able to get himself ready and 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:38.880 to ease back into this thing. They're not counting on 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.040 him necessarily to jump in and immediately be the top 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.200 line guy here. He's got some time, he's got some 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.440 ability to be able to work and work into it. 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.319 All right, we appreciate you, guys. Jonna's so we are 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:50.520 back on Friday. 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.319 A good thing about Friday is we will be able 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.960 to tell you everything that happened from the Cowboys Rams practice. 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:56.600 Make sure you check out all of our coverage on 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.680 Thursday as well. We're gonna do lots of training camp live. 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.120 We're gonna have the understanding right now is we're going 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.840 to have two different film crews on opposite sides of 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.480 the field covering both parts of practice, so you'll get 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.920 lots of insights on what's going on there till then. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.000 For Brian brought us Amber Garcia, Nick Harris. 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