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Speaker 1: you got the three of. Us It's Jack, muickballen our arm,

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Speaker 1: all bangers And, jack you're calling a game, soon SO

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Speaker 1: i say we get straight into. It, okay, fine are you? Ready?

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Speaker 2: Yep i'm.

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Speaker 1: Ready side dog on.

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Speaker 3: ME i was gonna call Arm scrooge again for not

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Speaker 4: Anymore, no that's that's my saving grace is That i'm

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Speaker 3: Person there would not be a single redeeming quality about,

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Speaker 2: DOGS i wasn't such a supreme dog.

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Speaker 1: Person we're just off to a great start. Here so

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Speaker 1: the first QUESTION i texted both of these guys, Saying

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Speaker 1: i'm having so much fun with this. One it comes

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Speaker 1: to us from A loha gopher in our, discord and

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Speaker 1: the question is pick a few of the current buyers

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Speaker 1: at the, deadline and instead of a, trade pick one

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Speaker 1: player from their roster from two thousand to twenty ten

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Speaker 1: who would fit their. Needs and let's see some deep.

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Speaker 1: Cuts nothing too. Easy SO i went into my bag

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Speaker 1: AND i PICKED i got five. Teams. Here would you

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Speaker 1: i chose for the? Teams?

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Speaker 3: Have i've got a pick For, Philly, tampa The, cubs

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Speaker 1: Astros. PERFECT i Have, Phillies, Yankees, Dodgers, tigers And. Giants, cool, okay,

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Speaker 1: Arum do you have any teams that you picked?

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Speaker 4: Out i'm bouncing around on a few different. Ones So

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Speaker 1: Ones let's Do philly, First, jack because you AND i

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Speaker 3: Pick Luise? Robert This Luise? Robert that give Me Shane

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Speaker 3: victorino in. CENTERFIELD i Need victorino in Center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah WHAT i was thinking for The phillies in two

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Speaker 4: Though doing this exercise made me realize so like The

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Speaker 1: I'll cover The yankees really. QUICK i think The yankees

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Speaker 3: Ray what do they need right? NOW i Understand Taylor

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Speaker 3: But Jason bartlett in two thousand and nine had a

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Speaker 3: Thing Carlos lee and left field would solve problems.

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Speaker 2: Guy, yep that's a good. ONE i like that.

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Speaker 1: ONE i was thinking about The dodgers and this rotation

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Speaker 1: and innings from their starting pitchers this. Year even Though

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Speaker 1: Stuff he looked, Good BUT i want a two hundred innings.

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Speaker 1: Guy Chad billingsley two thousand and eight three to one four,

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Speaker 4: Rotation, well if we're talking, Innings, brewers they need. Innings

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Speaker 4: give Me Chris capuano.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and.

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Speaker 4: Five great pul thirty five, Starts Great paul thirty five

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Speaker 4: he went eighteen and twelve one hundred and nineteen. Innings

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Speaker 4: HAVE i, mean it's like an. Element it's like, QUINTANA

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Speaker 1: Another that's What i'm that's WHAT i missed from pitchers

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Speaker 1: getting a decision every start because they're going into eighteen and. Twelve,

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Speaker 1: YEAH i love. THAT i have another one for The.

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Speaker 1: TIGERS i think they could certainly use a. Shortstop Carlos.

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Speaker 1: Kian it was a six win player in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six for an Elite tiger squaddy at three twenty

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Speaker 1: give me carlos ki. IN i was a good, player good,

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Speaker 1: deep cut it. Is The giants need a second. Baseman

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Speaker 1: Jeff kent won THE. Mvp that's deep enough. Cut dang,

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Speaker 1: MVPs, yeah but it was AN. Mvp, yeah it was AN.

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Speaker 3: Mvp one more for me in this episode Of Guys naming,

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Speaker 3: Dudes Carlos zambrano for The, Cups LIKE i would love

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Speaker 3: With Carlos, ZAMBRANO i, Mean carrie Wood Mark. Pryor they

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Speaker 3: in terms of E. R i, MEAN i would love

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Speaker 3: Turn this guy never. Missstarts he was drinking coffee in between,

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Speaker 3: innings like give me.

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Speaker 1: That throwing water coolers and getting into fights kind of

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Speaker 3: Stretch you need you need a tone setter in that.

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Speaker 3: Clubhouse like some people Want tommy FAM i Want Carlos.

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Speaker 1: ZAMBRANO i like that.

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Speaker 4: Got one more thinking about now they just got me

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Speaker 4: few different, PLAYERS i, think but like As Sean markham

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Speaker 2: Three eight five E, R i think over the span

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Speaker 4: Was i'm looking at how many appearances he made with

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Speaker 4: Ten it was five hundred and ninety two innings at

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Speaker 4: a three eight five Era For Shawn, MARKHAM i could

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Speaker 4: have won A. J. BURNETT i didn't think that was

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Speaker 4: deep cutting. Off obviously you got doc called that Like

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Speaker 2: Goat BUT i also was Thinking Ted. Lilly BUT i,

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Speaker 2: Said i'm settling On Shawn. Markham.

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Speaker 1: Here Sean markham Is Sean markham like a poor Man's,

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Speaker 1: brios very.

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Speaker 3: Very very poor man sprio three nine three career, era

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Speaker 1: Good, yeah but like what was he? Throwing eighty, nine.

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Speaker 1: Eight there you, go two eight.

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Speaker 4: Two thy eight twenty five starts three three nine, era.

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Speaker 1: Any other ones before we move on to the next.

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Speaker 1: Question i'm. Good this Was this was a fun therapeutic,

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Speaker 2: Up all?

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Speaker 1: Right question number, two which current non playoff team should

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Speaker 1: be a? Buyer is there a team in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: or within two games that would be better off selling

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Speaker 1: for the long term health of THE. Org this was

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Speaker 1: asked By Sean donahue actually Met sean at The College World.

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Speaker 1: bit WATCHING i think it was THAT ucla Versus Murray state.

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Speaker 1: Game awesome guy, ball no or to the. Max SO

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Speaker 1: HIM i have a team THAT I i'm kind of

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Speaker 1: out on at this, point AND i think should. Sell

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Speaker 1: you want me to start it.

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Speaker 4: Off Wandy rodriguez Astros, By, okay oh, nice.

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Speaker 1: Good keep chiming in like over the course.

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Speaker 2: Of this, episode AS i just wanted to mention that Perfect.

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Speaker 1: So a team that is still in relative playoff contention

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Speaker 1: are just two games out of the wild, CARD i

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Speaker 1: think The royals should. SELL i know The rotator cuff

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Speaker 1: For REAGAN'S i, MEAN i hope he comes back and looks.

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Speaker 1: it's not been. Reported but when he comes, back how

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Speaker 1: good is he going to? Look rotator's no, joke no.

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Speaker 1: Joke and then the offense just outside of Mikel, garcia

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Speaker 1: who's been, awesome And bobby Wit junior has been. Good

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Speaker 1: there's just nothing to watch right, Now Like vinnie has

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Speaker 1: just been. Average salvey really looks like he's on the.

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Speaker 1: Decline Jonathan india has come over and put up an

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Speaker 1: EIGHTY wrc plus and then the bottom isn't even worth.

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Speaker 1: Mentioning and then you look at the. Bullpen it's, good

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Speaker 1: Like lugo's a good, Picture waka's a good, Picture lorenzen's,

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Speaker 1: Okay Chris boubach is. Amazing Is Chris boobach gonna throw

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty innings this?

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Speaker 2: Year he?

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Speaker 1: MIGHT i don't. Know right So reagan's doesn't come, BACK

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Speaker 1: i just see An American League central WHERE i view

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Speaker 1: three teams that are. Better and When i'm talking about soft,

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Speaker 1: CELL i don't mean blow it up by any. Means

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Speaker 1: WHAT i mean Is Seth. Lugo you're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: three zero five. VRA i think when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: like underrated arms that could potentially be on the, MOVE

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Speaker 1: i Think lugo's name should be near the top of that.

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Speaker 1: LIST i just what does The royals bounce back look

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Speaker 1: like to get really in contention here and really go

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Speaker 1: for a playoff spot. AGAIN i don't. Know i've just

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Speaker 1: been pretty disappointed with them AND i could see a soft, Cell.

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Speaker 3: SO i actually went the complete opposite. DIRECTION i think

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Speaker 3: The royals AND i understand that they're like kind of

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Speaker 3: within striking distance because the al is so. Bad BUT

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Speaker 3: i see a team that's under five hundred right. Now,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i say The royals should be buying because you

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Speaker 3: Have Bobby wit at this point in his. Career you

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Speaker 3: can't pack it in at this point For Bobby. Witch

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Speaker 3: you tried making a move For, india BUT i see

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Speaker 3: zero outfielders with. Control you have a couple of pieces

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Speaker 3: in that farm system that can get you an outfielder with.

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Speaker 1: Control i'm not saying enter The Jaron durand.

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Speaker 3: Sweepstakes But i'm, saying, like let's make calls about a

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Speaker 3: bloss him into a, good big.

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Speaker 1: LEIGURE i feel like their window is just now. Opening so,

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Speaker 1: okay you miss it this.

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Speaker 3: Year let's say the offense never really comes around And reagan's,

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Speaker 3: misses you, know a long long period of, time find

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Speaker 3: guys with control and buy. Strategically i'm not saying go

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Speaker 3: get from Ber valdez on a. Rental i'm, saying, like

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Speaker 3: go find some guys with two three years of.

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Speaker 1: Control, YEAH i see where you're coming. FROM i would just,

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Speaker 1: SAY i think the window is going to be open

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Speaker 1: With bobby With junior for a very long. Time they

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Speaker 1: signed him for years and years and. Years he's still

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Speaker 1: like twenty four years. Old if they miss this window

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Speaker 1: and they kind of backtrack a little, bit and then

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Speaker 1: in the offseason they can go by. Again, Like i'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that this is the end For Kansas. CITY

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Speaker 1: i just don't see them competing this year and then

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Speaker 1: you're gonna Have lugo next, year going to then be

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Speaker 1: a free agent after that. SEASON i don't. KNOW i

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Speaker 1: just feel like they could replicate. This what do you

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Speaker 1: think you guys.

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Speaker 4: Year you need guys to throw next year, though, Right

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Speaker 4: like you want to try to win ball games next

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Speaker 4: year and.

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Speaker 2: Compete if you Trade, lugo what.

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Speaker 4: Does the rotation look, like especially If reagan's is, Hurt

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Speaker 4: what does a rotation look like next? Year if you,

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Speaker 4: know you're still hoping that you, Know reagan's comes back

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Speaker 4: and he's, fine but like just For Devil's advocate, purposes

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Speaker 4: you Trade, Lugo reagan's is up in the. Air who

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Speaker 4: are the like shore fire pieces in the? Rotation then

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Speaker 4: you Have waka still.

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Speaker 2: That's thirty five years. Old thirty five.

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Speaker 1: But you did just sign him to an, extension like

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Speaker 1: they gave him three years fifty one this.

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Speaker 2: Offseason so you Have Waka, Boobitch Noah, cameron.

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Speaker 1: And reagan's But MEGAN'S i, know but if he's hurt

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Speaker 1: for this year and he's able to come back next

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Speaker 1: year and be the Cool reagans that we, NO i.

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Speaker 3: Think that's you just, said you just said two minutes.

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Speaker 3: Ago it's a rotator cuff and those are really hard

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Speaker 1: FROM i, KNOW i think he might be done for the.

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Speaker 1: SEASON i don't think that it'll carry over to next

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Speaker 4: To go that bank kind of guy DOUBLE tj rotator

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Speaker 1: But then it's almost like will he ever be? Himself,

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Speaker 1: SO i.

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Speaker 4: Year like you, know you're gonna have A Jack kglon

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Speaker 4: that point several hundred at bats under his. Belt if

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Speaker 4: Any pascentino is playing a little bit, better you hope

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Speaker 4: that that finally comes, together, like and then you make

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Speaker 4: some signings and try to be.

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Speaker 2: Competitive BUT i, THINK i don't.

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Speaker 4: you only have the one and a half years Of.

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00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 4: Lugo BUT i think if you're trying to win ball

432
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 4: games next, year you gotta probably Have lugo in that.

433
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: Rotation mm.

434
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: HMM i just don't think HE'S i guess my thinking

435
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,239
Speaker 1: IS i Think reagans will come back next, year and

436
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's, naive.

437
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: But he.

438
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: Waka No.

439
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: Cameron that's a. Four and then you sign a fifth

440
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: and you could recoup probably pretty good prospects For lugo

441
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: with a year and a half of control with the

442
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: way he's pitching right.

443
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: Now but we just factored in logo to that, conversation

444
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 3: you need a, Fifth, no, Yeah reagan's Waka.

445
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: Cameron then you make a, signing like you go for.

446
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: It next. Year it's just this. SEASON i Think lugo

447
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: could be the piece to get.

448
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Moved, yeah but then you're starting next year with three. Starters,

449
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: no our, wires our wires are getting crossed.

450
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: Somewhere our wires are getting crossed because you guys are

451
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: worried About reagan's When i'm slotting him in as one

452
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: of the. Four Where i'm Going reagan's boo bitch Waka,

453
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: cameron and then you sign a. Fifth, okay that's that's

454
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: that's where myn my mind is. Going AND i Think

455
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: reagan's is going to be okay by next, year at

456
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: Least i'm hoping, Right and again maybe that's, naive BUT

457
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: i am. Hoping.

458
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah if i'd, be i'd be trying to buy with

459
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 4: control just because like that that that outfield is. Brutal you,

460
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: can you. CAN i, mean if you wanted to Trade,

461
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 4: lugo there are free agents that are gonna be. Available

462
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: but WHAT i like About lugo is that you're dealing

463
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 4: with A reagan's injury, here like, boobitch he's healthy now

464
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 4: and and you're hoping he can can continue to compile.

465
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: Innings BUT i don't think anybody has been compiling innings

466
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: Like Seth lugo, Has so if we're talking about maybe

467
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: some variables of, health like it is nice having a

468
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: guy that can go two hundred innings.

469
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 2: For you and you can pencil into next year as.

470
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 4: Well SO i think it would have to take a

471
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: pretty absurd haul because, otherwise, LIKE i don't know if

472
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 4: there's any other pieces that they're, really you, know.

473
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: Gonna move other than.

474
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: That so, yeah it's not like you're gonna, fully fully

475
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: fully replenish the farm. System it would be one move

476
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: that gets you a good, haul but then you know

477
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna then add. Again it's just it's kind of

478
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: like a one step forward or one step, back one step.

479
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: FORWARD i think they should just keep trying to add

480
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: to this.

481
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 4: Team AND i, mean they made it the playoffs last

482
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: year and they were competitive and they made some noise

483
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: and isn't great this. Year BUT i think with A,

484
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: lugo a Healthy reagans and A Boo bitch and a

485
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: waka like, that that could be your best foot forward

486
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: And Noah cameron in the five like that team can

487
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: make it happen if they add some some outfield pieces

488
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 4: and it's a lot easier to add outfield. PIECES i

489
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: think that can hit enough than pitchers that you can

490
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 4: rely on like A Seth.

491
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: Wigo, YEAH i GUESS i just don't know the outfielder

492
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: with control that they would get BECAUSE i remember after

493
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: The dever's, trade arm you said That Jaron duran is

494
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: very unlikely to be moved at this. Point So i'm

495
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: thinking to, myself who is that outfielder that they're going

496
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: to go? Get and if they do them in, OUTFIELD.

497
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: I can't say, it but like A Jesus sanchez would

498
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: do wonders for, them like it really he.

499
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Really would do wonders. Though, YEAH i mean.

500
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: They're getting a six fifty ops From Drew, waters they're

501
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: Starting John.

502
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: Rave, yeah he's definitely better than those, players but a

503
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: lot does that really change. ANYTHING i think it's one.

504
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: Of the, moves like you could do it by two

505
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 4: or three of those. Guys but, yeah they could try

506
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: to add like a major major impact. OUTFIELDER i think

507
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: that it's gonna be hard to do this this this

508
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 4: offseason or this this deadline. THOUGH i don't know how

509
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: many outfielders are going to, be you, know out there and.

510
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: Available that's that's the part that is, interesting and you

511
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: don't want to go? Rental To jack's, Point, yeah and

512
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: to your, point they definitely, Shouldn't LIKE i think they.

513
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: Should if they're gonna, buy it has to be with.

514
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: CONTROL i think we're in agreement that they shouldn't be

515
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: buying rentals with this, situation, right. Agreed, Yeah so it's

516
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: either should BE i would soft sell BEFORE i bought a.

517
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: RENTAL i would that THAT I i one hundred percent agree.

518
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 4: With but, YEAH i guess that that's that's the thing

519
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: Is i'm, saying, oh they should buy with, control but

520
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: we haven't even said who who that would?

521
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: Be like to that, Problem, jack is there anyone that

522
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: comes to mind for?

523
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 3: You not, Particularly i'm just wondering about certain, guys LIKE i, mean,

524
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 3: HEY i understand this guy is kind of offensively broken right.

525
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: Now but if they feel confident that they can do

526
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: something With James, albin that intrigues. Me The dodgers have

527
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: a surplus right. Now there are a good teams say

528
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: it's like a soft, buy it's a soft. Buy, YEAH

529
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: i think that'd be the way to do, it. Too

530
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: IS i think they soft by, FRANKLY i think they do,

531
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: nothing AND i think they entertain offers for one Of

532
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: mitchell Or, jensen and you, know see what kind of

533
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: big league talent they can get For Blake mitchell Or Crutter.

534
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: Jensen, yeah, yeah any other teams along that vein that

535
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: you guys came up. With because for, ME I i

536
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: did The royals is the answer to this. Question BUT

537
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: i totally understand the. COUNTERPOINTS i JUST i don't know

538
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: who they're going to get with control that will actually,

539
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: matter AND i do Think lugo is. Expendable BUT i

540
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: understand where you guys.

541
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: ARE i mean to your point, Though, peter like if

542
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: they are in this weird spot where they're, Like, okay

543
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: we don't feel like we can add a guy with.

544
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 4: Control we're kind of stuck in the. MIDDLE i, Mean

545
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: lugo is the guy that's going to get you The

546
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: Mega hall and then you can spend more in free.

547
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: Agency there's a lot of good arms out, there. Huh

548
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: fortify the farm system and maybe they make it a

549
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: more BLOCK us trade pairing with one of the catchers

550
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: That jack. MENTIONED i don't think it's crazy at. All

551
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: it is just a weird spot WHERE i think you

552
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: either have to go one.

553
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Direction or just sit. There that is.

554
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Fascinating but the one other TEAM i was thinking about

555
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: is The, cardinals and LIKE i want them to go

556
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 4: for it this. YEAR i, do BUT i kind of

557
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 4: think they can be buy and sell at the same

558
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: time kind of team and just a strategic ball club

559
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: given where they're, at and by the buy and sell

560
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: side of, THINGS i really look at the, pitching AND

561
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: i look at what the pitching can. Be and you

562
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: have like An Eric fetty, right who's been fine for,

563
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: you BUT i think that's a guy that you could

564
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: easily move to and guys who eat innings at a sub.

565
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 4: Four it's shocking every single time the return that these

566
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: guys get. You, Oh Eric fetti got you, that like it'll.

567
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: HAPPEN i Think michael McGreevey is just as, good and

568
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: every time he gets an opportunity to show, it he.

569
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 4: DOES i don't think they would be any worse by

570
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: Trading ericty getting a prospector turn and plugging A michael

571
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: McGreevy in.

572
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: There Ryan helsley like he's he's been kind of meh for.

573
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: Them like if if, THERE i wouldn't say you have

574
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: to move, him but if you shop him around and

575
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: and you get a haul for him like he's he's

576
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 4: hurt them at points this. YEAR i understand that he's

577
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 4: super valuable when he's, Right but Like mayton's been, Great

578
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: lay he's been, Great max has been a good. Reliever

579
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 4: they can bring up some guys maybe from the minor

580
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: leagues that can also pitch and out of the bullpen as.

581
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: Well you don't fully ever want to do, that but,

582
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: again if if you Move hellsley and you Move, fetti

583
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: you can get pretty nice. Returns the offense is, still i,

584
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: think really solid and and you can go from. THERE

585
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: i also think you could kick the tires on An aeronado.

586
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: Still THOMAS. A Jay z's just rotting In TRIPLE a

587
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: after showing well at the big league, level and it's

588
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: a Better, aeronado but it's it's still a glove first

589
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: ninety THREE wrc plus third basement right. Now SO i

590
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: think all of those guys could potentially be, moved and

591
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: they have somebody that you could immediately plug in that's

592
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 4: young and not, proven but at least has shown success

593
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: at the big league. Level it's not just, like, hey

594
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: we're bringing up a, prospect let's see what. Happens like

595
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: these guys have had success at the big league, level

596
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: AND i think that would fortify that farm system a

597
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: little bit. MORE i just it wouldn't shock, me BUT

598
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: i know it's a lame duck weird year with him

599
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 4: waiting to take the.

600
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: Reins, yeah Go iquere you?

601
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: Out. Uh With Saint, LOUIS i like the idea that

602
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: they're going to go into every single season in THAT

603
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: Nl central thinking that they can win the, division AND

604
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: i don't think they're. Wrong Like milwaukee is, combustible it has,

605
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: worked but why can't a Good Saint louis team just

606
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: LEAVE Prog milwaukee any? Year, Yeah cubs have not put

607
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: themselves in a position to run that division for years to.

608
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: Come obviously they have the lineup to do, it but

609
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: they haven't put themselves in that position with the rotation

610
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: or the. Bullpen so that, division in my, opinion is

611
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: up for, grabs And Saint louis has the brand and

612
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: they have the budget available to do it every single.

613
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: Year i'm curious to see what it looks like with

614
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: Heim bloom at The, helm BUT i do think that

615
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: there are some guys that they can get out of,

616
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: strategically like A Nolan GORMAN i still think they're going

617
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: to get something for, him and that guy's just sitting

618
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: there Are, polonte but LIKE i Love, polonte SO i

619
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: don't want to see that guy on the move at.

620
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: All BUT i mean, McGreevy, dude it's hard to find

621
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: starts for some of these guys in the minor, leagues

622
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: And Quinn matthews is going to be there sooner rather than.

623
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Later SO i don't, know, man there there are interesting

624
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: wrinkles to The cardinal. THING i would lean honestly doing

625
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: next to nothing For Saint, louis AND i would kick

626
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: the tires With hellzy on an, EXTENSION i would pay.

627
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: That guy year in and year. Out has been one

628
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: of the best relievers in.

629
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Baseball, INTERESTING i THINK i will, say hell, no, yeah absolutely.

630
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: Not he's not going to pay a.

631
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: Reliever but when you, got you, know maybe the top

632
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: five closer in The National league for the last five,

633
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: years you should think about locking that guy. Up the

634
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 3: only other team THAT i want to throw a you,

635
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: guys just because they're getting very expensive and pretty damn Old,

636
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: houston Like houston should be selling off some pieces right.

637
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: Now they're really SEE.

638
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean they're, yeah they're the third. BEST i, mean

639
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: you could argue that the second best team in The american.

640
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Leaguer just take a walk. Down how many guys are

641
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: up after the twenty twenty six. Season, OH i, KNOW

642
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: i know they're in a weird see, Everybody oh is?

643
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: That but, okay we're kind of in a Similar.

644
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: Also by the, way please for The, cardinals before we

645
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: get too far, away Make tink hence the closer sooner

646
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: rather than. Later if they don't Keep hellesleie you like

647
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: That Alex rayes type of. Thing hopefully it'll keep him

648
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: healthy longer it, works that guy would be nasty as a.

649
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: Closer but back to the, point what was the school

650
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: of thought trying to survive for after? That or is it, saying,

651
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: hey we need to we need to try to maximize.

652
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Now the first.

653
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: One, now first, ONE i, think survive after, that build

654
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: a sustainable.

655
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Model they're forty three and thirty. One, YEAH i think

656
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: they should go for. IT i understand where you're going, Here.

657
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: JACK i think this is like the last year and

658
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: well they're going to BE i feel like they have

659
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: been able to build this as, sutainable winning, model and

660
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: even after this year when everybody. GOES i still feel

661
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: like they'll find a way to. Compete BUT i feel

662
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: like in a wide Open american, league The astros could

663
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: win The. Pennant totally. Mean The tigers are a good,

664
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: team but they're not. Unbeatable The yankees are a good,

665
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: team but they're not. Unbeatable it's so wide. OPEN i

666
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: think they use this as the last year to JUST

667
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: i think they should even.

668
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: BUY i think they should.

669
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: BUY i think they should go get after it and

670
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: try and win The, pennant which they. Can't so here's the.

671
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: THING i look At houston AND i look At philly

672
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: as being in very similar. Situations philly has a lot

673
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: of these veteran contracts coming.

674
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Up they're an old.

675
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Team But philly Has painter And miller And tayit And

676
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: Dante nori and your guy Arun, Escobar, like they have

677
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: a lot of guys in there right. Now they have

678
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: a system that works at the. Moment houston doesn't have a.

679
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: System so that's my.

680
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Thing it's LIKE i look at a team that's that

681
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: old and that, expiring AND i see literally nothing on the.

682
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: FARM i get really nervous that.

683
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: PART i do, Understand LIKE i understand sustainable winner if

684
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: you go in further this year with whatever pieces you

685
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: have left in that farm, System like it's one of

686
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: the last farm systems that we've done to do on

687
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: the call up BECAUSE i just have had a little

688
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: interest to write about, it but like it's it's not.

689
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: GOOD i JUST i think when you're forty three and thirty,

690
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: one five and a half games up in the division

691
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: Without Jordan, alvarez Without Spencer, ARRAGHETTI I i that part

692
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: of it makes me feel, like, hey maybe you give

693
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: this thing one more just just head down. Shot could

694
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: they and you guys tell me what you. Think could

695
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: they pull off a trade With Jacob melton Ors Zach

696
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: dezenzo type with some other, Prospects like it's not gonna

697
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: be the most exciting player in the, World but what

698
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: do we feel like this team needs is do they

699
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: need something?

700
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: Moving like what's.

701
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: What's the biggest need for The astros and how much

702
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: would it really take to acquire?

703
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: It not.

704
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: MUCH i think they need a corner outfield bat with

705
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: a beating. HEART i also think they could use a.

706
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: STARTER i know they've you, know used a bunch of different,

707
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: arms BUT i would like a dependable guy in, there

708
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: AND i think with those prospects and you, know Even

709
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: descenzo getting some big league, ACTION i think that gets

710
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: you a good. Rental, yeah not the best rental in the,

711
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: world but a. Rental and, again this team is going for.

712
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: It, Yeah so that's why that's HOW i would look at.

713
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: IT i agree with, you BUT i can hear The

714
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: it's definitely, scary, yes BUT i also think like there's

715
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: little that they're going to even fully be able to

716
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: do about it now, anyways is what would be the

717
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: soft set would. Be we've talked About brian And, Brayu

718
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: we've talked about Fran. Rivaldees those guys are just so.

719
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: Important you'd be like waving the.

720
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Light flag on this. Season.

721
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah And, JACK i at, first when you first said,

722
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: IT i just completely disagreed with. You but then when

723
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: you really broke it down, It let's say they do

724
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: go for it this. Year let's say they don't listen

725
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: to you and they fall, Short they're. Fucked, yeah it's

726
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: like they're so you're taking a, risk a big. One

727
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: BUT i feel like if there was any year to

728
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: take a risk with how bad The American league, IS

729
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: i do feel like it would be this.

730
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: YEAR i hate to be this, guy but they're winning

731
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: fifty games in twenty twenty nine with the way it's

732
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: strending right.

733
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: Now and one other interesting point is they kind of

734
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: did this though going into the. Season The Kyle tucker

735
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: trade set them up for the next few, years right

736
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: That that set you up with six years of Camp

737
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: smith and how many years.

738
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: Four years Of esockbread is no?

739
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: Three so two after?

740
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: This so like if they they extend him, hopefully, yeah and.

741
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: That's not, enough but at least that WAS i, mean

742
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 4: imagine if they didn't make that move and you Lose

743
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: tucker oh this, year.

744
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: Holy, shit it would be.

745
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Ugly so moving on to teams THAT i think should

746
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: be a, buyer a current non playoff, team they already

747
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: came out and said, it AND i agree with.

748
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: Them.

749
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks diamondbacks should.

750
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: Buy they Should diamondbacks going to.

751
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Buy Mike kazn came out and said that they're going

752
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: to be aggressive at the deadline as long as they

753
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: are still, competitive AND i think at this current state

754
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: The diamondbacks are still competitive when you have one of

755
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: the best offenses in the.

756
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: League, yeah how many comebacks have they? Had it's.

757
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Insane, yeah they've just had a weird, season like one

758
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: run game luck has not been. Great but they've also

759
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: had a lot of comebacks. Too it's just been just

760
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: been a weird. Year and we've also seen The diamondbacks

761
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: over the last couple of seasons be really a second half.

762
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Teams hopefully you can replicate that success and bring in a, pitcher,

763
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: right you don't have to spend a. Lot it could

764
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: be mostly, rentals but you already Have Corbyn, burns who's

765
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: now you, know down for the rest of the. YEAR

766
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: i feel like if they grab a starting pitcher and

767
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: a couple of bullpen, arms.

768
00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 2: They can still.

769
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Compete and even though you know What i'm saying with

770
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: The astros in The American league that The National league

771
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: is really really, tough BUT i think they can leave

772
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: frog The, PADRES i, do and then it's anybody's, game,

773
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Right so, Again i'm not like super sold on, it

774
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: but The diamondbacks came up as my answer of a

775
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: team not really quite in playoff contention THAT i do

776
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: think that should.

777
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: BUY i like. THAT i think they're just so deep

778
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: into it at this point they like just just keep.

779
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Going the farm system's gotten a lot.

780
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: STRONGER a lot of their top guys have performed well

781
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: aside from some, injuries BUT i don't think they were gonna,

782
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: trade you, Know.

783
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: Corsantis, ANYWAYS.

784
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: I do like. THAT i, mean this, team they're still

785
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: hanging around with all the catastrophe to the, rotation and

786
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: like you, said that offense can can match with just

787
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: about anything any any out, there anybody.

788
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Else any other. Teams The royals were my soft.

789
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 5: Buie, yeah, yeah are you have a soft buy on

790
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: top of the d backs Of royals in terms OF i,

791
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: MEAN i think you're looking at The Blue jays team

792
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: that's going to fully buy now so and The rays

793
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 5: are always going to do whatever they, do and they're

794
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: playing really, well SO i hope they actually buy a

795
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 5: little bit more aggressively than they normally.

796
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: Do it seems a little bit.

797
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: More queer cut with everybody, else like the buyers and

798
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: sellers do kind of feel more. QUEER i think one

799
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: other conversation will be the The. Rangers LIKE i do

800
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: still think that until that team is really really out of.

801
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: It so we talk about The American league still being

802
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: relatively wide. Open they're only two games. Behind when you've

803
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: Got jacob deGrom pitching like. That, yeah and you've got

804
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: the talent on the roster that that team. Features and

805
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: now That, SEMIONS i, MEAN i haven't checked the last

806
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: like four or five, games but he's not one hundred percent.

807
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: Dead he looked like a corpse through the first couple

808
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: months of the, season and you're gonna Get segur, roling

809
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: LIKE i think.

810
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: YOU i can't give up on this team when they've

811
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: got that much, talent AND i think they.

812
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: Should i'm not saying deplete the farm and go, nuts

813
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: because clearly this team is, flawed but fortify this ball.

814
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: Club there's a lot of guys that have been, there

815
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: done that give them a little bit of juice to soft.

816
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Buy agreed to move on to question number. Three one

817
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: pitcher slash hitter performance that has been the most surprising

818
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: good or bad so far this season comes to us

819
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: From Christian. CRESPO i got two. Guys this could be relatively.

820
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: QUICK Jp crawford is a surprise for. Me LIKE i

821
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: always thought of him as kind of, like you, know

822
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: he's a good defender over. THERE i thought he was

823
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: a barometer for average shortstop. Play AND i should just

824
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: start saying that about, shortstops so that guy can get really. Good,

825
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: yeah set it About dansby got really. GOOD i, MEAN

826
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Jp crawford is hitting close to three hundred while walking

827
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: nearly as much as he's striking. Out one forty EIGHT

828
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: wrc plus ranks fourteenth in baseball two point two point

829
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: four f war among. Shortstops that's. Sixth that's more Than.

830
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: Ellie i'm. SHOCKED i really am surprised THAT Jp crawford

831
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: has been this good this. Year good for, him and

832
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: then for minding. That, Oh i'll go, quickly just for my.

833
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: NEGATIVE i can't Believe Brenton doyle has been this.

834
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: BAD i was just talking about this, yesterday.

835
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Shocking forty ONE wrc plus negative zero point seven f

836
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: or fourth worst f, war WORST wrc plus and. BASEBALL i,

837
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: mean we were ranting and raving about him last year

838
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: for good, reason and he's just completely fallen off a.

839
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: CLIFF i wonder if there's LIKE i wonder if there's

840
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: an injury. Issue there obviously was a, Quad, like there

841
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: has to be something more.

842
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: There it's just so. Disappointing BUT i agree it has

843
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: to be injury related because it just makes no.

844
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Sense, yeah and what's it's just The, rockies.

845
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: MAN i think they got a lot of voices tripping

846
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: in a lot of different directions with with their hitters.

847
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: Too it's IT'S i haven't seen a situation WHERE i

848
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: can't remember more players that are very talented just hitting

849
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: an absolute wall and looking, lost AND i mean even

850
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: looking like The Drew romo situation and just his struggles

851
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: to with the yips and things like. That And Zach

852
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: vine who just appeared and then they had him like

853
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 4: working at the complex now and like to repattern his,

854
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: swing AND i don't, know there's weird stuff there that

855
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: that that was one of the best pure hitters in

856
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: the minor leagues and they Somehow i'm gonna blame them for.

857
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: That i've had him. UNRAVEL i, mean that guy was

858
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: pure like.

859
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: That i'm gonna blame.

860
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: That.

861
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: Matt matt, McClain i was really high on him. GOING i,

862
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: know he's starting to show a little bit of signs of.

863
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: Life he's defending, well which. Helps that's why he's not

864
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: a negative war. Player But matt McClain can't be hitting

865
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: one ninety six with a seventy ONE wrc.

866
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: PLUS i still think it's gonna get.

867
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: Better, yeah he's coming off a serious, injury and a

868
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: lot of guys get affected by. That but, MAN i

869
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: really did Think matt McClain was gonna at least play

870
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: to like seventy five percent of what we saw in

871
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: that rookie stint before he got.

872
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: Hurt McClain with The reds has probably been one of

873
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: my biggest.

874
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: Surprising you can Say spencer stre, Too you could almost

875
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: tand him those two, guys but McClain even more of

876
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: a surprise to, me just because he's so physically.

877
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: Talented got you do you have a good? ONE a good?

878
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: One.

879
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: Honestly it's funny because he's become a meme on, This

880
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: but LIKE. Mikel, GARCIA i did not THINK i had

881
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: this in him like we.

882
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: Were he's a meme BECAUSE i we.

883
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: Will the whole point was everyone, Saying, oh he's gonna,

884
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: Breakut he's gonna, Bakut it's Gona breakout'm, like. Yey Michael

885
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: garcia has been one of the best players In Major League. Baseball, yeah,

886
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: right he's Got he's got a lot going for him right.

887
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: Now he's got a two and a half f four

888
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: uh one forty three W rc post he's.

889
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: Flashing he's got a.

890
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: Three three five slash line three eighteen three seventy seven

891
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 4: five hundred with fifteen, bags LIKE i figured he could

892
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: take a step forward and and maybe he's still sneaky,

893
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: young but this has been. Remarkable AND i think you

894
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: could say a similar thing With, pania where the underlying

895
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: has always been, solid good. Player he's obviously been better

896
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: in recent. Years But pania hitting three twenty, one that's

897
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: also been a really surprising.

898
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: One Jeremie, Pania, yeah were you at?

899
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Check, so same team AND i went pitching. Front, uh

900
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: the guy that has surprised me in a good. WAY

901
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: i gotta stop Doubting Matthew boyd like he's pitching like

902
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: An all.

903
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: STAR i don't.

904
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: KNOW i doubted him last year and he, shoved AND

905
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: i doubted him In detroit and he, shoved and THEN

906
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: i doubted him going into this year and he's.

907
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: Shoving so you know, What Matthew, BOYD i tip my

908
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: cap to.

909
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: YOU i can't figure you. Out but on that same,

910
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: Team i've been so disappointed in the year That Ben

911
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: brown is.

912
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: Having it's.

913
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: UNBELIEVABLE i thought there was no world that opponents would

914
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: be hitting two eighty Against Ben.

915
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: Brown but that's where we.

916
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: ARE i thought the only guy Beating Ben brown Was Ben,

917
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: brown and, like turns out everybody's Beating Ben brown right.

918
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Now so that's my big.

919
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: Disappointment in my other disappointment appointment just BECAUSE i love

920
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: watching him pitch so much As, Gallon, like no world

921
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: Should Zach gallon have a five to two.

922
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Era but that's where we. Are, yeah that's the thing

923
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: about the D backs Buying like he's gonna get, better right, Right.

924
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna hit the open market after this. Year this

925
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: is a tough walk year for. Him, man really, WORSE.

926
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you.

927
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: That, YEAH i mean it could get. Worse Called Jordan,

928
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: bug you get. Worse, yeah that is. True all, right

929
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: let's move on to question number. Four who are your

930
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: dark horse award? Winners now the things are starting to take.

931
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Shape Is Matt shaw Still arm's favorite to Win rookie

932
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: of The? Year and Can Robbie ray win? This Cy.

933
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: Young this comes to us From Rye boy eighth eight

934
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: in our. Discord again another, reminder make sure to go

935
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: check that. Out the link is in the episode Description

936
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: the Best baseball group chat in The. WORLD i feel

937
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: like this is a conversation about The National League rookie

938
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: of The year BECAUSE i look at The American LEAGUE

939
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: mvp And i'm, like who's the dark horse that's taken

940
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Down Judge. NOBODY i look at The National league AND i,

941
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: say who's the dark horse that's taking Down? Otani? Nobody

942
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: and you might, say, well he'll have, competition but none

943
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: of them are dark. Horses all of them are just

944
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: some of the best players in. Baseball American, League Cy,

945
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: young it's either gonna Be scooball Or crochet unless one

946
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: of Like. Brown the, conversation the conversation as absolutely so

947
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: those can be definitely answers of those. Questions and then

948
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: the look at The National league, sighing AND i think

949
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: it's schemes to. Lose, Yes American League rookie of The.

950
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: YEAR i, Mean Jake wilson's got a mid threes f.

951
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: War DID i see ON betmgm he's minus one thousand

952
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: to win that right?

953
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: Now you saw that? Correctly, yeah. Nuts so for, me

954
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: it's a question About National League rookie of The year

955
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: unless you guys have any other dark horses than any

956
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: of the other. Categories, literally don't no.

957
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: No AND i think it's the most fascinating ONE i

958
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: think right. Now Dark horses is interesting Because Matt SHAW

959
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: i don't love as much as the pick because he

960
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: just it's been better since he came, back but it's

961
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: just kind of been this ebbs and flows and the

962
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: power hasn't totally been there the way that you'd. Expect

963
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 4: Drake baldwin clearly is the favorite right, now BUT i don't.

964
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't want to steal Your. Thunderjack you're calling

965
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 4: games with him playing all the. Time but If Liam

966
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: hicks can get more playing, time that's a dark. Horse

967
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: did he absolutely what leading rookies IN. Rbi, yeah he's

968
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: got a one to twenty seven WR r plus he's

969
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: a catcher if he can just get a little bit

970
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: more run out. There AND i know he's starting to

971
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: Like i'm looking at the other the other. Rookies It's Hassung.

972
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: Kim he's not playing. Enough one, Rookie, oh go ahead

973
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: With Liam. Hicks i'll follow up with another ROOKIE i

974
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: think is a decent dark horse. Candidate, YEAH i was gonna,

975
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: Say Hassn kim is probably the only other one and

976
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: he's only played thirty.

977
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Games this guy doesn't feel like a dark.

978
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: Horse But, misrowski, LIKE i absolutely Think miserowski could just

979
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: grab a hold on this award.

980
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: RACE i don't mind that this isn't.

981
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: Another year where a, pitcher a pitcher could could take.

982
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: It what About Chad?

983
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Patrick at what point does a guy just throw a

984
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: ton of innings at a respectable r and no hitter

985
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: does well enough and you just, say, hey It's Chad.

986
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: Patrick what about Another, brewer not a, Pitcher Isaac. Collins

987
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: he's been really. Good he's got a one away w

988
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: R c, plus walking a, ton not hitting for much,

989
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: power but he's got some good back to ball, skills

990
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: and he's playing really really good defense in a corner

991
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: like he might weirdly rack up some war play every

992
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: day for The, brewers, especially you know if they soft

993
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: cell and he's getting some playing, time and you're, like

994
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: wait a. Minute he put up a four point two

995
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: F wour this year and was like a one FIFTEEN

996
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: wrc plus and nobody else was very. GOOD i just

997
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: saw his price was like plus six, thousand AND i was,

998
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: like that's that price is, Wrong that is.

999
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Wrong that is.

1000
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: Right he definitely has higher implied probability than. THAT i,

1001
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: agree he hasn't slowed down that.

1002
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: Much here's my. Question If Drake, baldwin you just extrapolate these.

1003
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Numbers he hits, twenty he hits twenty home, runs puts

1004
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: up a one TWENTY wrc plus and a three five f.

1005
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: Wour but you Have Chad patrick throwing one hundred and

1006
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: seventy five innings at a three to.

1007
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Five, yeah who gets. IT i just like they're gonna

1008
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: go with that. HITTER i think IT'S i think that's

1009
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: very reasonable For Drake. BALDWIN i think he could even be.

1010
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Better AND i think that's that's got a decent bit

1011
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Of Chad patrick to go one seventy five in its

1012
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: first year with a mid. THREES i just. So but,

1013
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: again he's been so good to start the. Year so

1014
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: BUT i just do you feel like that's just?

1015
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: Wishing, YEAH i mean that's Why i'm trying to like

1016
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: upsell the dark. Course it's, technically, yeah it's asking a,

1017
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: lot but like he's built up as much as any

1018
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: arm in the minor. Leagues most guys he wasn't a

1019
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: high profile, prospect so they were throwing him every fifth

1020
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: day In TRIPLE a and he's gone six plus. INNINGS

1021
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: i don't know have the numbers in front of, me

1022
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: BUT i think he Threw i'll pull it up right.

1023
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: Now he threw one hundred and thirty six innings last,

1024
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: year which is a pretty large amount for a minor. League,

1025
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: like so you could probably push that north of one

1026
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: seventy fifty one. Sixty if he's at one hundred and

1027
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: sixty innings at a mid, Threes, Yeah like does that

1028
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: unseat A probably, not but it would be an interesting.

1029
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: Conversation it's an interesting.

1030
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: CONVERSATION i think it's really right now coming down to

1031
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: a home run race Between Drake baldwin And Augustine. Ramirez,

1032
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: like if one of them hits twenty, SEVEN i just

1033
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: think that guy Wins rookie of The.

1034
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: Year so that's my other.

1035
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Thing how much do you bacon defense into this equation Because,

1036
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: augustine he could JUST dh and his war total would look.

1037
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: Better he's still learning behind the. Dish that's part of

1038
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: the reason why he didn't get up right. Away but

1039
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: he's got ten homers in forty eight. Games he could

1040
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: easily finish with twenty, five plus he leads all rookies and.

1041
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: HOMERS i guess how many homers does he have to

1042
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: hit to offset the defensive gap from A Drake, Baldwin

1043
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 4: and Maybe.

1044
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Drake baldwin might have like three or four less. Homers,

1045
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: YEAH i think you'd have to Have ramirez hitting thirty,

1046
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: yeah or, more and then you'd probably have to Have

1047
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Drake baldwin step off a little. Bit we're halfway. Home

1048
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: he's got. TEN i don't think he's hitting more than. Thirty,

1049
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: yeah you don't think fortyes of the. CARDS i don't

1050
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: think forties in the cards this. Year maybe have too

1051
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: much of a, believer all. Right before we move on

1052
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: to question number, Five, arham you want to tell us

1053
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: about our friends At.

1054
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 4: Loop, yeah it's one of my favorite places to buy

1055
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: cards or buy into. Breaks of, Course Loop loupe the

1056
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: app is the best place to go if you're tired

1057
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 4: of sketchy card breaks are getting ghosted after big polls

1058
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: on other, apps it's time for something. Better i've been

1059
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: collecting cards for a while, now and Using loop has

1060
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: been one of the easier experiences for me buying into those,

1061
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: breaks chasing The Luis pania And kevin McGonagall cards in

1062
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: those twenty twenty Five bowman baseball, brakes but also just

1063
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: interacting with some awesome card, shops hit, seekers our friends

1064
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: who we're going to be doing a live break with

1065
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: at The national in a. Month jumping into those breaks

1066
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: with them is a ton of. Fun you get to

1067
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: talk to the owners of the card shops and there

1068
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: or the, breakers and it's a really fun interactive.

1069
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: Experience they're they're rooting you on trying to pull the

1070
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,680
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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 3: Cool did you see did you see his first pitch

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Speaker 3: pitch to the next three just being dotted on the

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1133
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Speaker 1: Game, okay so while arm goes to check out that

1134
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Speaker 1: highlight of first, break all, right let's go to question number.

1135
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Speaker 1: Five who is an underrated arm that will BeMoved this

1136
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: deadline that will take down big innings In october for a.

1137
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Contender this comes to us From marco two. Underscores SO

1138
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: i got a list of, pitchers just want to run

1139
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: you guys through. Them, OBVIOUSLY i talked About Seth lugo

1140
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: already and you guys kind of, agree kind of, Disagree

1141
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: BUT i do think that if he were to get,

1142
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: traded that would be a huge guy for a contender

1143
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: in the. Playoffs another one Two, Brewers Brandon, Woodruff Freddy.

1144
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Peralta The brewers have proven that they have an incredible

1145
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: pitching lab where they can pull up starters at, will

1146
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: and they have also proven that no matter how good you,

1147
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: are they're willing to trade. You Freddie pelton will be

1148
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: a free. Agent he has a club option in twenty

1149
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: twenty six for eight, million and Then woodruff's going to

1150
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: be a free agent after the, season SO i can

1151
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: see both of those guys being. Dealt, ALSO i Think

1152
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: Edward cabrera is an interesting. Arm if the command he's

1153
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: going to pitch, today we're recording On. Thursday if he

1154
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: has a good outing, TODAY i, mean the command has

1155
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: gotten better and better over each, start AND i feel

1156
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: like he could go to a contender with a good

1157
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: pitching lab and somebody could really figure him out and then.

1158
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Last BUT i don't think Least Tyler anderson is a

1159
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: guy who can perform. WELL i, MEAN i don't know

1160
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: what The angels are going to. Do they are in playoff,

1161
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: contention but he is an. Arm he's still got a

1162
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: really good change. UP i feel like he could really

1163
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: help a team Come. OCTOBER i mean really. Help that's

1164
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: why he's at the bottom of my. LIST i did

1165
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: think he was worth.

1166
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: Bedcheting how at about strikeout Artist Kyle hendricks, Too you

1167
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: might as well throw him in you as.

1168
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Well Tyler anderson is a little bit better than, THAT

1169
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: i would Say Andrew.

1170
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 4: Heaney Andrew heeny's probably another, One BUT i was thinking

1171
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: about if The rangers to scuffle a little bit, More

1172
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: Tyler maley could make.

1173
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Sense, yeah he's been. Shoving obviously this year he has still.

1174
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: Not really hit that wall that we've been not fully banking,

1175
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 4: on but you just figured he might naturally slow down

1176
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Speaker 4: a little. BIT i know his last time out wasn't,

1177
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Speaker 4: great but he just he skates, by like last time,

1178
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Speaker 4: out was it five and two thirds ten, hits four

1179
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 4: runs like It just he seems to be impervious to

1180
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: the blow up. Start AND i look at that pitching

1181
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: situation and he's on the il right now, too so

1182
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: obviously have to wait until he gets. Back but assuming he's,

1183
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: fine like you'll get that pitching, SITUATION i do think

1184
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: that's a guy that ultimately you could still be putting

1185
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 4: your best foot forward next year and say it's fine moving.

1186
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: Him you, know this year he's gonna be a free agent,

1187
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: Anyway SO i think that could be a guy that

1188
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 4: ends up getting them a sneaky decent return and it's

1189
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: not fully selling With rocker back lighter throwing pretty, well

1190
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 4: like they've got some other. Guys they've got some guys

1191
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 4: in the system that'll be healthy next year as well

1192
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: THAT i think can help. Them Al Hundro azario is

1193
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 4: not far, away SO i THINK i thought that would

1194
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: be an interesting one, Too just a guy that is

1195
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: just pitching hot right now and it's just shoulder, fatigue

1196
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 4: SO i imagine it's just managing him right.

1197
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 3: Now when Is rosario d bet because that Was Tommy?

1198
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Speaker 3: John is That All star break next?

1199
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Speaker 4: Year? Yeah probably run An All star break next, year

1200
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: but just thinking long, TERM i, mean that's definitely a

1201
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: guy you saw it in the. Rotation probably doesn't factor

1202
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: in next year as, much But mawley's gonna be a

1203
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 4: free agent, anyways AND i imagine they're not going to

1204
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: be paying, him so that could be a guy, that

1205
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: even if you're not fully, selling that could be one

1206
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: soft cell. Guy though they can't really afford to move

1207
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: arms if they're really trying to, win BUT i could

1208
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 4: see them at least moving.

1209
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 3: Him any other names we didn't, list, YEAH i, Mean

1210
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: i'm just going to take this opportunity to Mention Bailey falter.

1211
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: AGAIN i think a lot of teams are Calling Ben

1212
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: charrington About Bailey falter right.

1213
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Now AND i know that he allowed a couple of

1214
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: homers In detroit. Yesterday but.

1215
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: This, guy it's, weird and he's a, lefty and he's,

1216
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: cheap and he's got a couple more years of. Control

1217
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: like he was A dfa candidate coming into this year

1218
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 3: and now he's got fifteen starts to the three five

1219
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: era and it's just a funky. Fastball SO i like

1220
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: the idea of a, team and frankly like because of

1221
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 3: the control and the price, point there are a lot

1222
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: of teams that can be calling About Bailey. Falter there

1223
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: are a lot of teams that can make him.

1224
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: Work what About Tomiyuki. Chicano it's a one year.

1225
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: DEAL i, mean if he starts a game In, OCTOBER

1226
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: i get to Punch peter in the.

1227
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Face that just don't. Work, no just don't put me

1228
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: in the, box and he'll probably be. Fine he's got.

1229
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Man LIKE i know.

1230
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: His peripheral say you should.

1231
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: Retire, yeah they have, though and he's he's getting. Out

1232
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 4: SO i think that's an underrated arm that could get.

1233
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: MOVED i see that. Too all, right let's move on

1234
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: to question number. Six it's an interesting. One thoughts On

1235
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: andrew mccutchen's comments last week about THE mlb changing the

1236
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: baseball lack of uniformity and how it directly affects on field.

1237
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Play is baseball the only sport in the world where

1238
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: the league can change the most important piece of equipment

1239
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: used at will and in, silence and somehow not cause an.

1240
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Uproar this was asked By TAYLOR G again in our,

1241
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: discord and to give you the quote from, McCutcheon i

1242
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: was told by a rep FOR mlb that the balls

1243
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: are indeed different this. Year they stated higher, seams which

1244
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: produces more drag on the, baseball causing baseballs to not

1245
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: travel as far as they. Should when asked, WHY i

1246
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: was told every baseball's hands, sewn so noball is the.

1247
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Same WHEN i asked if there is something that can

1248
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: be done about correcting the current performance of this year's,

1249
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: BASEBALL i was told that there is nothing that could

1250
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: be done about it this, season but they are working

1251
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: hard on getting to the bottom of why the seams are.

1252
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: HIGHER i so agree with the last portion of the,

1253
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: question like why IS mlb allowed to do this to the?

1254
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: BASEBALL i don't know.

1255
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: How they hands sewn.

1256
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: All of, that because it's how it's. Done and they

1257
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: rub it with mud from The Delaware. River that's how

1258
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: it was.

1259
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: Done one guy rub rub it with the mud and

1260
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: it's a specific.

1261
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: Mud, dude there's a there's a bucket of mud in

1262
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: every single ballpark In Major League baseball and IN. Tripaa

1263
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 3: i've watched the. Process it's like it's so. Outdated it's

1264
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: unbelievable how outdated this whole process. Is like If Sam

1265
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: altman needs to come in and streamline what you, do,

1266
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: like go ahead and do. That let's just make sure

1267
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: they're throwing the same damn thing every single time we

1268
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: go through one hundred and twenty baseballs a game In

1269
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: Major League.

1270
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: Baseball make sure they're all the. Same, Like.

1271
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: Okay there was an uproar in twenty twenty one when

1272
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: THE nba changed from what A rawlings ball to A wilson,

1273
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: ball and it Wasn't, rawlings it was. Something but they

1274
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: went to A wilson ball from like theirning or something like. That,

1275
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: yeah Maybe spaulding To wilson or, something and there was

1276
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: a huge uproar. There it's like it doesn't dribble the,

1277
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: same it doesn't shoot the, same, like, yeah, okay.

1278
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: Whatever.

1279
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: Uh they have Three wilson balls that they test before

1280
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: the game that are ready to. Go and NOW i

1281
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: understand the difference between using three balls over the course

1282
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: of a given game and one hundred and twenty balls

1283
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: over the course of a given.

1284
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: Game but you're telling me, that, like we have.

1285
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: Microscopic needles go in to do major surgeries in, People

1286
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: like every hospital In america has that pretty, Much and

1287
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: we don't have a uniform way of sewing.

1288
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Baseballs and AND mlb does it.

1289
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: Themselves they they, own they, design they make the. Baseballs

1290
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: so it's not like they have to deal.

1291
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: With like it's not like The jersey situation where they

1292
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: could just like blame, fanatics, right like and who then

1293
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: Blame nike like they could they can take control of the.

1294
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: Situation the fact that it's we can't fix it also this,

1295
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 2: year what do you mean why can't you fix?

1296
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: It it's a, possible.

1297
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: It's.

1298
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: IMPOSSIBLE i thought that quote was. Insane what do you

1299
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: mean it's?

1300
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: Impossible?

1301
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: Impossible like What, ALSO i don't get the hands own.

1302
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 4: Part why would you make add a human variable to

1303
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: an object that you don't want to?

1304
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: Vary because that's, baseball, Man, yeah the human, element, right that's.

1305
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: Baseball these robomps.

1306
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: Were who was on the episode with me WHEN i

1307
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: just got worked up about the robo?

1308
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: MPs i think it was that that Was, peter. RIGHT

1309
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: i think both arm AND i have been on episodes

1310
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: with you where you've gotten fired up about the. Robots,

1311
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: well because it's.

1312
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 3: Like The athletic wrote like their thirtieth article in the

1313
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: last year about there.

1314
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Being no room in the game for robo. AMPS i don't.

1315
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Care it's not a.

1316
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: Roboump it's the challenge system and it's.

1317
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: Good that's the. Good Part, two it's like that's just

1318
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: an invisible.

1319
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: Robot robo robot, real they're not. Real The athletic does

1320
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: put out an article every two weeks about robomps every.

1321
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: Week every.

1322
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: Week i've read like forty of the same article over

1323
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: the last year and a.

1324
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: Half the other thing is, like we're having all this

1325
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: conversation about, robums we should have robo fucking. Balls, Yes

1326
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 4: and that's the easiest that's the easiest. Thing, YEAH i,

1327
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: MEAN i hope they can figure this. Out it's a

1328
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: joke that we have to like assess each, year is,

1329
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: oh is it a dead ball?

1330
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: Year or is the ball flying this? Year let's let's

1331
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: streamline this.

1332
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: Thing i'm with, you and no other sport has anything

1333
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: going on like, this because it's just the most baseball

1334
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 4: thing ever to just not know what's going on with your.

1335
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: Fucking, baseballs with the?

1336
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: Equipment all, right let's move on to question number. Seven

1337
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: this comes to us From Instagram Max toughy twenty five

1338
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: asks and this, question this is this is right up my.

1339
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: Alley who is another potential superstar that could be surprisingly

1340
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: dealt at the, deadline similar to The Rafael devers. Situation

1341
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: ellie de La, cruz no doubt about, It, peter your,

1342
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: THOUGHTS i got. TWO i got, two AND i want

1343
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: to preface it WITH i don't think it's going to.

1344
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: Happen CAN i say THAT i don't think either of

1345
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: these guys are going to get? Traded that softens the

1346
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: blow big. Time BUT i had to start getting into

1347
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: my galaxy brain here AND i don't think it's. Outlandish but,

1348
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: again it's not gonna. Happen The padres need to get

1349
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: out from some. MONEY i Think Manny machado is playing really. Well,

1350
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: AGAIN a lot of things were to have to happen

1351
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: for The padres to even consider this as a. Possibility

1352
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: The padres are not playing great baseball right. Now now

1353
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: they have gone up against The, dodgers and The dodgers are,

1354
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: amazing and The dodgers are at, home so you can't

1355
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: really blame. Them BUT i just see A padres team

1356
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: Where Michael. King it's JUST i don't know when he's

1357
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: going to come. BACK i don't love this. Rotation, overall

1358
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the offense is, good but again it drops off so.

1359
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: Quickly they're tied up with a lot of money with some.

1360
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: Team team Take machado off of their. Hands and now

1361
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: one team THAT i think could are The New York.

1362
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: Yankees they have been looking for a third baseman. Forever

1363
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: IF i didn't say The, yankees, no, no, no, NO

1364
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: i Saw ram start to agree with, me and THEN

1365
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: i said The jack just straight up left the. Podcast

1366
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: nobody leave the. Podcast anybody, LISTENING i. Am i'm spitting right.

1367
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: Now The yankees need a third. Baseman they have all

1368
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: of the money in the. World you Move jazz over to.

1369
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Second i'm, saying if things start to go wrong for The,

1370
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: padres Could machado be in a similar situation To Rafael? Devers,

1371
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: JACK i answered the damn. QUESTION i don't think it's gonna,

1372
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: happen but it does make some.

1373
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: Sense, yeah but you don't need to give us what

1374
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: team they go. To and.

1375
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of. TEAMS i think That, okay a.

1376
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Lot of teams, would BUT i But i'm thinking of

1377
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: teams who would take on three hundred and fifty million dollars.

1378
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: On that's the interesting thing is they Gave manny that

1379
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: extension that.

1380
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: Just like it. Is it's it's crazy, crazy but he's

1381
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: playing really.

1382
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 4: Well, yeah it looks better now because he's balling, out

1383
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 4: but it's seventeen million this, year it's twenty five million next,

1384
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 4: year and.

1385
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Then it's thirty nine million from.

1386
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty seven to twenty thirty three when he's forty years.

1387
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: Old SO i think that's almost an immovable. Contract but

1388
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 4: with him playing at this, level To peter's, point it's

1389
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 4: the most movable that this contract.

1390
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: Will probably ever.

1391
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: Be that's What i'm.

1392
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: Saying it's not gonna.

1393
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 4: Happen but that is a good shout actually because of

1394
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: that's if he wasn't under such a tough contract that's

1395
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: like that one's gonna be.

1396
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: UNDERWATER i would, say you're you're.

1397
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 4: Crazy but he also does have a full note trade,

1398
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: classe so that would add a little bit of a

1399
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: challenge to.

1400
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: It but that's a that's a good. SHOUT i don't

1401
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: hate that. Shout it's a good.

1402
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: Shout it's a good. Shout. JACK i bet you two

1403
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: are both closed Byd and he didn't even Write eddie

1404
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: answers down.

1405
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 3: FOR i, WROTE i wrote an answer. DOWN i, SAID

1406
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: i was torn Between Paul skeins And elie de La.

1407
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: Cruz well that's not. Serious, yeah it's not.

1408
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Serious, NO i MEAN i have an answer written. Down but,

1409
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: like it Wasn't machado being moved that got. Me it was,

1410
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: LIKE i think The yankees could better fit.

1411
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: There thinking about teams who would take on that. Contract

1412
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: think of other, teams LIKE i think maybe The mets,

1413
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: Could but do they really want to take? That they

1414
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: don't want, to just doesn't Want so who is another

1415
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: team who needs a third baseman who has all the

1416
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: money in the. World it's like The, yankees The yankees

1417
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: are the right.

1418
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: Answer but, like it upsets me that you say that

1419
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: you thought it through this, well, uh the the only

1420
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 3: other name that jumps out to. Me AND i understand

1421
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 3: that there's been so much dialogue about it to this. Point,

1422
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: Sale Like sale really jumps out to. Me he's throwing

1423
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: out of his freaking. Mind, again a team could pay

1424
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: a super premium For Chris sale and Force alexanthopolis's, hand

1425
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: AND i think a team should think about freaking doing.

1426
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: It two things. Out sale one And topless did come

1427
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: out and say we're not trading. Him, yeah, okay like

1428
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: that that's true Until Max clark is on your. Table,

1429
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: Agreed that's exactly WHAT i was gonna. Say but it's

1430
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: like sail in the same boat As devers BECAUSE i

1431
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: was looking at guys who are on like big old,

1432
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: contracts like ten eleven. Years that's WHAT i thought about the.

1433
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: Question BUT i like the shout of a star potentially getting,

1434
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: Traded LIKE i think of all the guys that we're

1435
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: going to, Name sale would be the most, likely even

1436
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: though THE gm came out and said. It but at

1437
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: the same, TIME i still think THAT i still think

1438
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: that he will, Listen LIKE i think that's more to

1439
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 1: set a market For sale where it's like you're gonna

1440
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: have to blow me away and maybe some team. Will

1441
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: SO i don't think that's. OUTLANDISH i have another. One

1442
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: it's also.

1443
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 4: CRAZY i have nothing else other than That sale is

1444
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: gonna be the only ONE i could think.

1445
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: Of i'm telling, you these closed minded, guys they can't

1446
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: think open mind like, me you got to open the?

1447
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: Brain how do you do? That do you? Do you

1448
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: take like gummies every? Night? Like how do you think your?

1449
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: Mind be illegal to say HOW i do it on this?

1450
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: PODCAST i think it'd be, illegal got? It so What

1451
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: i'm going to say is next one. Up i'm looking

1452
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: at teams who have a hole and a team who

1453
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: can take on a ton of. Money AND i think

1454
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: about The, dodgers AND i think about their shortstop. Position

1455
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do?

1456
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 3: There?

1457
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: Now of, Course mookie's playing, short But Michael confordo couldn't

1458
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: hit water if he fell off a. Boat So i'm

1459
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: sure they would like if they could Move mookie back

1460
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: to the. Outfield who's a team trying to probably get

1461
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: out from some, money The Minnesota. Twins Could korea be

1462
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: a player that The dodgers at least call. NOW i

1463
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: don't know if The twins would do. IT i don't

1464
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: know what a package would look. Like but if The

1465
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: twins start to falter a little, bit that's a. Dude

1466
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: you bring him TO la with his postseason pedigree to

1467
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: compete with The giants who just brought Over. Devers oh,

1468
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: no they might actually do, it will?

1469
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: They?

1470
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, NO i might have spoken it into.

1471
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: Existence what if they Get korea and.

1472
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: Then he would be fantastic, Again.

1473
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: He'd be so Good. Jack last TIME i ever bring this,

1474
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: UP i.

1475
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 3: Promise are The dodgers disincentivized of doing this because of twenty, Seventeen,

1476
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: like think about the twenty seventeen history there With Carlos.

1477
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: Korea he was the guy that pissed them off more than.

1478
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: ANYONE i like. THAT i don't Think Andrew, freeman we're

1479
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: so far from, here so, far BUT i like that.

1480
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: SHOUT i just you're right because the one player they.

1481
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: Like The yankee fan base and The dodger fan base

1482
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: hate area because he sunk his teeth into.

1483
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: This so, TRUE i Think dodger fans will be, like

1484
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: it's been so, long if you can come over and help,

1485
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: us like we don't. Care and when he comes, over

1486
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: he will help. Them Now i'm saying he will go

1487
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: over as if this is a fore god, conclusion not at.

1488
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: ALL i just think it fits the answer to this.

1489
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 4: QUESTION i do think that's a Good that is a

1490
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 4: good one because they they definitely need to get out

1491
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: FROM i at least they make it seem like that we'll,

1492
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 4: see you, know based on if they sell and that

1493
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 4: whole aspect of.

1494
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: Things BUT i do think that's that's a good.

1495
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: One move over to question number, eight who are the

1496
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: sophomores that are surprisingly taking a step back or a step?

1497
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: Forward this was asked again On instagram From morritsugu Dot.

1498
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: RYAN i definitely butchered that, name but shout Out ryan

1499
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: my one for taking a slight step back THAT i

1500
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: am surprised. About Jackson chorio has dropped, off just hasn't

1501
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: been quite the same. GUY i thought he was going

1502
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: to be a torpedo to the top of THE mvp

1503
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: leaderboards this, year and he's got like a seven thirty

1504
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: FOUR Ops and it's really not great. Defense so if

1505
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: he's it's good, defense it's not bad by any stretch

1506
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: of the, imagination but it's not. Well he is such

1507
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: a high floor because he is such an elite. Defender

1508
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: he isn't and he plays in a corner or you,

1509
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: know he plays center field, sometimes but he's not the

1510
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: greatest defender in the. World and when you have a

1511
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: seven THIRTY, ops, Like i'm gonna be a little bit.

1512
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: Disappointed it's not crazy drop, off but it is. NOTICEABLE

1513
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: i think.

1514
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 4: THAT i, honestly the reason why The chorio one surprises

1515
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: me so much is because of how well he played

1516
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: down the stretch of the season and in the. Postseason

1517
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 4: in the early, going like it was, like, oh he

1518
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 4: settled in after the first half and figured it, out.

1519
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: And now he's performing on the big. Stage he's got it.

1520
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: Right so to see him then come back this year

1521
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 4: and look like first Half chorio again from last, year

1522
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: it is a little confusing almost because it doesn't fit

1523
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 4: WHAT i think we align to believe what the track

1524
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 4: of the season, was which Was i'm settling, In i'm settling,

1525
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 4: In i'm settling.

1526
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: In, Boom i'm a superstar And i've. Arrived but that's

1527
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: what happens.

1528
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes obviously we've seen it with a lot of, players

1529
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: AND i don't think it changes his long term outlook

1530
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 4: too too. Much BUT i, AGREE i kind of thought

1531
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 4: this was stamping superstardom year For Jackson.

1532
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: Chorio but it is easy to forget how young he.

1533
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: Is could just be a second half. GUY i, cherry

1534
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: what if he just takes off of the second half?

1535
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: Again who, Knows? Jackson do you have an? Answer? Yeah my?

1536
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: Bad as his Teammate Joey.

1537
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: ORTIZ i was not expecting to be anywhere close to

1538
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: a negative war, Player LIKE i thought the defense was

1539
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: gonna make him a two win player at this point.

1540
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 3: Regardless but that's just not the case right. Now i'm

1541
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: not sure what's going on with, him BUT i will

1542
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 3: skew to the other. SIDE i did not Think andy

1543
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 3: Pie hayes could be this. Good AND i know we've

1544
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 3: talked about him a decent, bit BUT i thought he

1545
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: could be. Good he's great right, now the next level

1546
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 3: greats all.

1547
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: Star almost like should we think PRE arb.

1548
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 4: Extension, yeah, YEAH i agree with that one BECAUSE i

1549
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 4: thought AND i was going back to the scouting report

1550
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 4: THAT i wrote on, him because he was a guy

1551
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 4: that was a prospect for a. While SO i had

1552
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 4: a few through the, years AND i had always, said,

1553
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: LIKE i think he could play, center like great plus,

1554
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 4: corner get buying. CENTER i didn't think he'd be an

1555
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: asset in center the way he. IS i thought maybe

1556
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 4: at like a fifty grade on the glove in centerfield

1557
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: he's fifty five.

1558
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: Plus and then that the. Bat you, KNOW i definitely

1559
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: saw above average, power BUT i don't.

1560
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 4: Know if you could envision this consistent hit tool, wise

1561
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: and just like the legs being this much a part

1562
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 4: of his, game like it is tools across the board for.

1563
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 4: Him SO i would Say pahes has been definitely a pleasant,

1564
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: surprise even Though i've been very bullish on him as.

1565
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 4: Well Does logan o'hapi count as a sophomore given that

1566
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: he was hurt for like a whole, Year can that one?

1567
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: Count?

1568
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: Oh, yes Because Ben simmons Won rookie of The.

1569
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 4: Year like cause you had you had fifty one games

1570
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three from, ohapi but he was, hurt

1571
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 4: and then last year was his first real full. Season

1572
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 4: i've just been so surprised at how much he's struggling to.

1573
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 4: Hit the approach has just been. Brutal it's walking four

1574
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 4: percent of the, time he's striking out at thirty four percent.

1575
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: Clip and the defense hasn't been, good which is the

1576
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 4: most shocking. Thing he defended really well last, year SO

1577
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: i know he's not like a true, sophomore but in

1578
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: nobody's a true sophomore in college anymore these days. Anyways

1579
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 4: so and Then Janar diez as, Well i've just been

1580
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 4: a little.

1581
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: Bit surprised by.

1582
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: HIM i wrote him down.

1583
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: Too AND i know he's technically not a sophomore because

1584
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 4: it was like one hundred games and one hundred and forty,

1585
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 4: eight But i'm still kind of counting that as like a.

1586
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: Sophomore and a. HALF i JUST i thought he'd take

1587
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: another leap offensively this, year but he might be a

1588
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: second half.

1589
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: Guy as, well and a few risers real. QUICK i,

1590
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: MEAN pca is a super easy answer of a guy

1591
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 1: who's just taking a massive leap in year. Two Addison

1592
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: barger has been. Great you guys just broke him down

1593
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: yesterday and you know, what shout Out nolan Shan well him.

1594
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: Up he's better THAN i.

1595
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: Thought he's about a league.

1596
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: Average hitter last, year maybe a little a tick, above

1597
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: and then this year he's been a one TWENTY wrc plus.

1598
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: Guy you, know he's not, flashy he doesn't hit a

1599
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: ton of home, runs but he hits and he walks

1600
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: and he's a pretty good, player pretty good. Player when

1601
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: are we going to start saying his? Name?

1602
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: Right what is it?

1603
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: Not Nolan, Shanwell, Shanawell, shanawell you got this's on? Me

1604
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: you got it next? Time you got?

1605
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: It all?

1606
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: Right last? Question who is a player come deadline that

1607
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: will get traded and the baseball world will, SAY, whoa

1608
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: they got that back for? Him good FOR x. Team

1609
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: this is asked By Walker Jenkins Fan club On. TWITTER

1610
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: i got an answer of a pitcher that's a rental

1611
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: THAT i think is going to get, traded and you're

1612
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: gonna be, like The nationals got What Michael soroka and

1613
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: his five zero six. ERA i think he's gonna get

1614
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: The nationals back a decent. Prospect he has great underlying,

1615
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: numbers twenty four percent sureka rate to a five percent walk,

1616
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: rate with a forty seven percent ground ball. Rate he's

1617
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: making nine million this. Year he's going to be a,

1618
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: rental LIKE i, think you, know with his pedigree from the,

1619
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: past looking, healthy you, know the results haven't been. There

1620
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: The nationals defense does some zero. Favors he's also got

1621
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: a home run. Issue you look at his X, fip

1622
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: it's expected to come way. Down the home run to

1623
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: fly ball rate is not. SUSTAINABLE i think The nationals

1624
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: are going to get he had like a pretty good

1625
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: prospect for, him and people are gonna be like why

1626
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: and call that like a bad, trade and then he's

1627
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: gonna go over to a contender and like pitch pretty damn.

1628
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: WELL i like that.

1629
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: Shout i've got one for.

1630
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: You people are gonna be floor to What pittsburgh gets.

1631
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: Back For Dennis. SANTANA i was gonna write him down.

1632
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: Too he's been.

1633
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: Good he's been like nasty. Nasty you look at his savant. Page.

1634
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: MAN i don't, SAY i don't say pages are gushing,

1635
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 3: blood but Like Dennis santana's page is beat red right,

1636
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: Now Dennis santana throwing his slider more than any. Pitch

1637
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: opponents are slugging one sixty four against, it and, oh

1638
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: by the, way they're hitting one eighty eight against his

1639
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: four seam. Fastball santana this year is twenty nine years.

1640
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: Old he's making one point four million. Dollars you get

1641
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 3: another year of control next. Year santana is one of

1642
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: the best setup guys In Major League baseball right, now

1643
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 3: and Like, bednar could be on the. Move bednar has

1644
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 3: been the sexy. NAME i guarantee you there are gonna be.

1645
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: People it's, like, Oh, Cargo like The cubs just Got

1646
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: Dennis santana and they had to give up somebody legit

1647
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 3: or like two semi legit prospects And they're, like why

1648
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: did we do that for a setup? Guy because this

1649
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: guy's really Good Dennis, SANTANA.

1650
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: I love that.

1651
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: SHOT i was, THINKING i wish he had a little

1652
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: bit more, control But zach would tell cheer he's just

1653
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 4: he's just consistent and pitching market like an arm like.

1654
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: THAT i think we'll get you a nice.

1655
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 4: Return in The rays always clean on those types of,

1656
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: deals SO i Think lattel could could get a nice

1657
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: a nice. Return that was one of the top NAMES

1658
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 4: i was thinking of the other that it doesn't come with,

1659
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 4: control but and it's semi obvious because he's playing, well

1660
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 4: BUT i think just the idea when you see The

1661
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: ryan O'Hearn trade go, down it's gonna be, Like, wow

1662
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 4: who would have Thought ryan on to hearn would ultimately

1663
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: get them. THAT i know that people will be a

1664
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 4: little bit more brace for that because he's playing so,

1665
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: Well BUT i still, think no matter, what we're not

1666
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 4: going to be fully prepared for what you know he

1667
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 4: could bring. In and then one other Read, Debtmers SO

1668
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 4: i just think The angels and Read debtmer situation has

1669
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 4: just always been weird AND i don't know the details behind,

1670
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 4: it But i'd imagine he wasn't thrilled about how he

1671
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 4: was handled last. Year now he's been thrust it into

1672
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: a bullpen roll where he's proven that his fastball can

1673
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: really play and his stuff is.

1674
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: Legits but AND i know that The angels.

1675
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 4: Aren't never going to fully, sell BUT i do just

1676
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: wonder if There's they're just at a situation here where

1677
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: The angels didn't want to sell well on, him so

1678
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 4: that's why they didn't trade him in the. Past BUT

1679
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: i presume that they'd probably listen to some offers now

1680
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 4: that he's at least an elite looking bullpen arm from

1681
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 4: the left side that you still think you could probably

1682
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 4: transition back into a rotation if you wanted. TO i

1683
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: think a lot of teams for a player with control

1684
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 4: would make some pretty substantive offers to The.

1685
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: Angels and maybe it's not a full prospect.

1686
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: Package it could, be you, know a big league piece

1687
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 4: and then some other prospects and a weird Classic angels

1688
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: move that is like win, now but also not LIKE

1689
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 4: i could see debtmers in his control and just his

1690
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: ability on the. Mound casual fan may see the numbers and,

1691
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: say what we got a guy with this era over

1692
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 4: the last couple of years and we gave up, this

1693
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: but you're getting a really talented on with control that

1694
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 4: could be used in various.

1695
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: Roles, yeah love those shouts AND i think that'll do

1696
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,880
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