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Speaker 1: We welcome back in hour number two Glad Tierravis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm laughing as I come back out of break.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, I started off in the world of sports,

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Speaker 1: and the colleges are all returning to campus, and during

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Speaker 1: the commercial break, I'm scrolling through checking to see what

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Speaker 1: all the latest news is. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many of you have seen these kind of stories. I

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Speaker 1: bet your kids and your grandkids have. As part of

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Speaker 1: recruitment for all the kids going back to schools, the

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Speaker 1: sororities are doing all sorts of sorority dance videos. One

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Speaker 1: of our writers at OutKick, Joe Kinsey, who does fabulous

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Speaker 1: work there, posted a video yesterday of one of the

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Speaker 1: SEC sororities. It got eleven million views on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: these things are trending everywhere. And I was just joking

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Speaker 1: because I just shared the video that he shared on

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Speaker 1: but it's going to be harder in the future to

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Speaker 1: get into SEC schools than it is to get into

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Speaker 1: Ivy League schools because I tweeted about this and I'm

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Speaker 1: about to bring in Grant Napier and I want to

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Speaker 1: get his story because I think it all kind of

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Speaker 1: ties in with the cultural shift that we're seeing. When

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, you basically had to have a

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Speaker 1: pulse to get into an SEC school. I graduated high

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Speaker 1: school in nineteen ninety seven, and I could have gotten

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Speaker 1: into the University of Tennessee maybe as a dead man.

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Speaker 1: They probably would have admitted me if I could have

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Speaker 1: paid the tuition. Right now, the University of Tennessee has

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Speaker 1: a thirty eight percent at mid rate Ole Miss and

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Speaker 1: people in Mississippi are going to kind of know when

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Speaker 1: you had a kid that was a troublemaker and couldn't

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Speaker 1: get into any other school, you were like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll send him to Ole Miss. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to get into Ole Miss. Now, kids in LA and

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Speaker 1: Chicago and New York City are cutting each other in

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Speaker 1: their admissions counselor offices to try to get an invite

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Speaker 1: to Starkville, Mississippi. I've never seen anything like this. Every

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Speaker 1: southern big school that plays football, every Q girl wants

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Speaker 1: those people all over the country. But anyway, let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Grant Napier. I do think it's emblematic of the

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Speaker 1: cultural shift that we are seeing across the country. But

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Speaker 1: I want to go back in time, way way back

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Speaker 1: in time to five years ago, in the summer of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Grant Napier with us now and Grant, I

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Speaker 1: just want you to tell this audience your story because

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Speaker 1: we talked about it back in the day when I

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Speaker 1: was doing my sports talk radio show, and everybody kind

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Speaker 1: of turned their backs on you. But tell me just

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Speaker 1: kind of take for this audience, tell them what was

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Speaker 1: going on with you in the summer of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: and what happen up to you. I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: give you the floor.

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Speaker 2: On May thirty first of twenty twenty, I was sitting

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Speaker 2: in my living room watching TV and I got a

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Speaker 2: Doug Christy, who is my co host on my radio show,

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Speaker 2: and he said, Napes, did you see de Marcus Cousin's tweet?

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Speaker 2: I said, no, I don't follow him. As a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, I muted him, and he said you should.

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Speaker 2: So I did, and it was at Grant ne Peer's show,

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard from you in years. I thought you

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Speaker 2: forgot about me. And I responded with six words all

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Speaker 2: lives matter, every single one in capital letters with three

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Speaker 2: exclamation points. Well, all of a sudden, I'm getting a

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Speaker 2: lot of calls and messages. Oh wow, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: you said that. Well that was Sunday night at about

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Speaker 2: six Tuesday afternoon. By two forty I had been fired

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Speaker 2: by a radio station that I was at for twenty

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Speaker 2: six years, same time slot for twenty six years, highly

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Speaker 2: That was five years ago.

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, I think it's important to remind

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Speaker 1: NBA player tweeting to you about black lives matter. All

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Speaker 1: jobs sports talk radio job of twenty six years, and

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Speaker 2: Probably people were outraged. They were blown away. I had

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Speaker 2: is every single one of them said, I would love

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Speaker 2: were too afraid. That was what it was like. People

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Speaker 2: this was one week after the murder of George Floyd.

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about this Clay leading up to

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Speaker 2: and look at those tweets. It was like Oh wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, we have to fire Grant Napier. We have

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Speaker 2: to show black lives matter, don't come after us. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: we fired a guy that set all lives matter. They panicked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about that. Clay a thirty two year career,

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Speaker 2: in either HR department with the Sacramento Kings or Bonnaville International.

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Speaker 2: And here's something else that's interesting. If you go to

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Speaker 2: Bonneville International right now, if you google Bonnaville International leadership

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Speaker 2: and you look at their leadership, every single person is

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Speaker 1: I remember covering it, and I believe we had you

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Speaker 1: There was almost nobody else that would say it. Why

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Speaker 1: Sacramento is one of the biggest audiences this show has,

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Speaker 1: so we appreciate everybody listening to us in California. You

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm very excited. It just kind of all happened

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Speaker 2: on Sacramento Radio, I would have said, no way. I've

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Speaker 2: guest on my podcast, Charles Barkley, he didn't have a

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Speaker 2: But I am going back September second. I'm starting on

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Speaker 2: I learned in the last five years? You know Zoobie music. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thought he deals in common sense. He's like you, you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys deal in common sense. He wrote, Black lives

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Speaker 2: dividing over basic stuff we already agree on. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I've learned over the last five years. I've been blessed

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Speaker 1: I think this is an important conversation. And I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to the difference between public and private commentary.

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Speaker 1: What I try to do for better or worse, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I've done my whole career. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: don't like some of the decisions that Trump is making

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Speaker 1: and we are going to oppose them. So that happened

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Speaker 1: today Boseburg in DC being shot down by the three

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Speaker 1: judge panel that considered the ruling that he attempted to

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Speaker 1: put in place that would have limited President Trump's power. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now you just heard from Grant Napier, who was fired.

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Speaker 1: He said he spent thirty two years as the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Sacramento Kings, twenty six years doing sports, and

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Speaker 1: he lost his job for tweeting all lives matter, every

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Speaker 1: single one. Five years later, credit to Fox Sports Radio Sacramento,

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Speaker 1: he is being given back his ability to talk about

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Speaker 1: sports on the radio. But I don't know if there

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Speaker 1: is a better story out there than Grant Napier's to

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Speaker 1: illustrate just how the country went and how crazy sports went.

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00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: I did a story, and I was one of the

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Speaker 1: few people who would actually speak out in favor of Grant,

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Speaker 1: because Bucket likes to joke about this sometimes. But when

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Speaker 1: you attack me, I double or triple or quadruple down.

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Speaker 1: I don't tiptoe up. I don't step back and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was wrong here. I knew in real time,

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Speaker 1: as most people did. Firing somebody for tweeting all lives matter,

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Speaker 1: every single one is indefensible. It is indisputably true, and

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Speaker 1: it is not racist, and it is not worthy of

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Speaker 1: someone losing their job, a job that they had done

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Speaker 1: well for thirty two years and twenty six years, most

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Speaker 1: people knew that most people were cowards. And this is

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Speaker 1: how Buck and I because Buck was similar in that

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Speaker 1: he didn't back down surrounding COVID. He didn't back down

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Speaker 1: surrounding BLM, and neither did I. And what has often

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Speaker 1: disappointed me. And I'm glad that we're in the payback

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Speaker 1: stage where so many people who made so many awful

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Speaker 1: decisions are now being rejected, being held accountable. But I'm

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Speaker 1: still very troubled that all of that happened, because what

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Speaker 1: it told me about human nature is cowardice is far

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Speaker 1: more common than bravery. And what it told me was

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will shut their mouths if they

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Speaker 1: think anything negative might happen to them, even if they

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Speaker 1: know what's going on is wrong. And I, back in

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Speaker 1: those days, would regularly come on my show and I

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Speaker 1: would call out rich people because I got so angry.

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Speaker 1: I understand. I don't think it's fair, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's right. It makes me sick to my stomach, but

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Speaker 1: I understood in twenty twenty if you had a job,

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Speaker 1: you were trying to get your kid into college, you

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Speaker 1: had a mortgage to pay, and you just said, I

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Speaker 1: can't afford to lose this job. I understand why a

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Speaker 1: lot of those people were afraid to speak out because

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Speaker 1: they had no power. And that's why really, starting about

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, when I would see people out in public,

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Speaker 1: and certainly since I've started doing this show with Buck

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, what people would come

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Speaker 1: up and say to me was you say what I

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Speaker 1: wish I could say? Thank you? And as a guy

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Speaker 1: who did sports, I never had heard that before because

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Speaker 1: it's sports, right, Like, who cares? I love it. But

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Speaker 1: if I say that your team's gonna win the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl or lose the Super Bowl, or win the National Championship,

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Speaker 1: or not win the National Championship or bad that was

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00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: a bad call. I love it, But it's the toy

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Speaker 1: chest of life. Unless you're on the team, own the team,

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Speaker 1: or are in some way directly compensated by the team,

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Speaker 1: whoever wins a championship doesn't probably change your life that much.

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00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty, during COVID, during BLM when they

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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: tried to put President Trump in prison for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life. That stuff really does matter. And so

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Speaker 1: I understood if you were out there and you were struggling,

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Speaker 1: and you just wanted to pay your mortgage, and you

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Speaker 1: just wanted to get your kids into school, and you

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00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: would get on social media and you would think, man,

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Speaker 1: I really want to say something. I bet a lot

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Speaker 1: of you wrote something on Facebook. I bet a lot

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Speaker 1: of you wrote something on Twitter or Instagram, or maybe

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Speaker 1: even an email that you were thinking about sending inside

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Speaker 1: of your company, and then you hit delete because you said,

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Speaker 1: I can't afford to lose my job. And your primary

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Speaker 1: job as a dad or a mom, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is to provide for your family. Everything else is secondary.

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Speaker 1: So I understood why those people, why many of y'all

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Speaker 1: out there, I have been in this world before. I

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Speaker 1: understood why a lot of people hit the lete. The

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Speaker 1: people that I still have a lot of contempt for

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Speaker 1: are the people who were filthy rich said they agreed

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Speaker 1: with everything that I said and then never spoke out

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Speaker 1: Because I got to be honest with y'all. If you

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Speaker 1: have fu money, if you have money where you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about paying a mortgage. You got

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Speaker 1: a second home, you got a third home, you got

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Speaker 1: fancy cars, you got kids that you can stroke a

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Speaker 1: check for to go to any college in the country.

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Speaker 1: Your coward has made me sick, and I saw it everywhere.

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Speaker 1: People who run companies, people who never had to worry

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Speaker 1: about anything financially for the rest of their life, they

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00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: turned tail. They to me, were the biggest cowards because

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00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: they were the kind of people who said fire fire,

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Speaker 1: Grant Napier for saying all lives matter, every single one.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, I'm never going to forgive those people because

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Speaker 1: a lot of them now they're front runners, they're cheerleaders. Yay,

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00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: well get a tax cut, boy. I'm glad Trump won.

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Speaker 1: Where were you when it mattered? I think about this

531
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: all the time. Where were you when there were consequences,

532
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: when there were cost when somebody might not have set

533
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you on whatever flipping charity board you're on. Where were you?

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00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: You were a yellow bellied coward. You let situations like

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Speaker 1: Grant Napier happen everywhere, and you didn't do a damn thing.

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00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: So money is only useful in the context of what

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Speaker 1: it allows you to do that you otherwise wouldn't be

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00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: able to do. There's a great line. This is why

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00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: when everybody drafts new quarterbacks, what they care about so

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00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: much is how much do you love what you do?

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00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Because as soon as you get that fifty million dollar check,

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00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: there's pretty girls everywhere, there's fancy cars, there's really great vacations.

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00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: If you don't love what you're doing, money will make

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00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: you more of what you already are. If you are

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Speaker 1: a die hard, I'm getting up and I am grinding,

546
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bust my ass. You sell a company,

547
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: you sign a fifty million dollar deal, you do the

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00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: same thing you were doing before you got the money.

549
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: But if you're the kind of person who looks around

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00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: worries all the time about what people are gonna say

551
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: about you, you become even more of a coward the

552
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: more money you get. And there are so many of

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00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: those people out there, and I think about them. The

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00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Grant Napier story is a good one. Most of us

555
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: are never gonna have billions of dollars. We're not gonna

556
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: own radio stations. We're not going to own companies that

557
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: when they come to you with an employee sending a

558
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: tweet it's your decision what to do. But a lot

559
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: of people had that, And now that Trump's in office,

560
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: they're waving the pom poms and they're running around and

561
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: they're cheering. I don't care who wants to celebrate after

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00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: a victory. I want to know who's going to be

563
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: there when you get your ass kicked, because that's character,

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00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: that's courage and Grant Apier story. Oh, there's an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of people who will send you a text or

566
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: make a phone call and say, boy, I feel really

567
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: bad for you. Yeah, that'll be you know, would be great.

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Speaker 1: As if you would say that public, well I can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Well, they might be mad at me. Then

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00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: so many people who knew better, and so many people

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Speaker 1: who had the resources to have nobody ever actually be

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00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: able to do anything to them. They were nowhere to

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00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: be found when it mattered most. And now guess what,

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Speaker 1: you look up and some of those people are some

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00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest cheerleaders because Trump's back in office. Now,

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: just remember it, and remember how quickly those front runners

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00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360
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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,880
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