1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: about this week's subject to the Disgraceland full episode, the Cramps, 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and even more shocking Sean Combs allegations, some batshit awesome 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Halloween merchandise from Disgraceland, and of course we are diving 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: into your voicemails, text and more, and as always, a 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: whole lot of rosie. All Right, discoes, let's get into 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: it all right. Real rock and roll is supposed to 16 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: be dangerous, whether it's the fear of Elvis Presley's swinging 17 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: hips that are gonna result in your teenage sister getting pregnant, 18 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: or the grimy, dark image of the Rolling Stones. The 19 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: anti Beatles at the time asking in newspapers and on billboards. 20 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: If you'd let your daughter marry a rolling stone, of 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: course you wouldn't. Led Zeppelin, the sex Pistols, the Ramones, 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: black Flag. I can go on and on with well 23 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: known example after example of rock stars living and behaving dangerously. 24 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: We all know these stories. Led Zeppelin and the Mudshark, 25 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Sid and Nancy and the Chelsea d d Ramone and 26 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the Heroin. We take it all, these stories, of course, 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: a little bit further here in Disgrace Land. We make 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: it as as much as we can to be specifically 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: about crime, true crime. Obviously, Jerry Lee Lewis marrying his 30 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: thirteen year old cousin. It's not dangerous enough. So you know, 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: we talk about the rock and roll pioneer allegedly murdering 32 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: his wife because that happened. So you know the drill, 33 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: You know all of this. That's why you're here. The 34 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: true crime is a part of the danger that is 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: a part of rock and roll. Okay, the danger is 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: integral to rock and roll. It's the true crime is 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: just an unfortunate byproduct of a necessary ingredient that makes 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: rock and roll so compelling historically speaking, anyway, because right now, 39 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: in the now, rock and roll is dead. We know 40 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: this in part because there is no danger in today's 41 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: rock and roll bands. If you can even find rock 42 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: and roll bands today, I'm speaking now specifically about bands 43 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: in the mainstream, rock and roll bands in the mainstream. 44 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: When I say if you can even find a rock 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: and roll band today, I mean in the mainstream. Know 46 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: that there are great rock and roll bands out there 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: on the club circuit, out there killing it. But you know, 48 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about modern culture, okay, because when we talk 49 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: about rock and roll as a whole historically, we're talking 50 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: about a culture shifting force, not a backbench subgenre. Okay, 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: there are no rock and roll bands on the charts anymore. 52 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I say this a lot. I'm never gonna stop talking 53 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: about it. I find it. I find it to be 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: a very shitty reality. But the reason I'm talking about 55 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: it right now today in this bonus episode is because 56 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: this is what the Cramps, from this week's full episode, 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: we're getting at. Okay. The Cramps talked a lot about 58 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: the difference between rock and roll and rock. The Cramps 59 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: were on a mission to save rock and roll, and 60 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: they could tell back then in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: that rock and roll was dying. The Cramps, of course, 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: like I alluded to, had a specific definition for what 63 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: rock and roll was. Dangerous music for teenagers, Okay, dangerous 64 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: music that separated the cool kids from the squares. By 65 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: that definition, it's hard to think of any consequential rock 66 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: and roll bands today that are making noise and that 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: are actually dangerous. Again, I know they're out there, I 68 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: know they're alive and well, but unfortunately they no longer matter, 69 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: not to the scale that the artists, the rock and 70 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: roll artists that I mentioned before, mattered when it came 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to culture. Okay, these the rock and roll bands today 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: are no longer appearing on the charts and driving culture 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: like Elvis was, like the Rolling Stones did, like the 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: sex Pistols, the Ramones, etc. Today, Coldplay, Hosier, how to 75 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: say that? Hosier Hosier, and Billie Eilish. These three artists 76 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: currently occupy the number one top rock album, the number 77 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: one rock song, and the Hot Rock the number one 78 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Hot Rock Alternative song chart positions on Billboard. It's hard 79 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: to call any of these artists rock and roll by 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: any traditional definition. Again, Play Hosier and Billie Eilish it's 81 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: hard to call them rock and roll. It's even harder 82 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: to claim that they're dangerous. They are about as safe 83 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: as it gets. And this is how you know your 84 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: parents likely wouldn't be annoyed or threatened if you put 85 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: a cold Play song on when you're out for a 86 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: riding the car with your mom, or if, like me, 87 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: you are a parent, you're likely not going to be 88 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: annoyed or threatened. If your kid is sitting there and 89 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: puts on you know, Billie Eilish or Coldplayer or whatever. 90 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: You might have a question about their taste, but whatever. 91 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: And the reason why, of course, the reason why we 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: aren't threatened or annoyed particularly is because these artists are safe. 93 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: They're not dangerous. Okay, to the extent that any of 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: these artists are even rebellious is it's contrived. It's not 95 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: actual rebellion. Now, I'm not criticizing these artists. Whatever, do 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: what you gotta do, Okay, I don't care. Make whatever 97 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: music you want. People clearly love it. I don't, but whatever, 98 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: it does not matter. I'm not criticizing the artists. I'm 99 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: not criticizing the people who listen to these artists. I'm 100 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: simply trying to make a point that the Cramps were 101 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: right that rock and roll was dying, and now it 102 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: is dead. And there is a massive difference between the 103 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: rock artists on the charts today and the rock and 104 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: roll artists on the charts from years past. But you 105 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: know what isn't dead hip hop. It's not only the 106 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: dominant music for us that's driving culture. It's also more 107 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: dangerous than modern rock music in every possible way. And 108 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about current chart topping hip hop stars too, 109 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: not just the names from the past that we all 110 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: know that we've talked about in Disgraceland. Okay, I'm talking 111 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: about Young Thug. Okay, Young Thug is on trial currently 112 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: on a criminal conspiracy beef. Another artist w N Melly, 113 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing that correctly, is about to be tried 114 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: for a second time on a double murder charge. Those charges, 115 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy and murder, they rival the true crimes from 116 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: the rock and roll artists that we've covered here in Disgraceland. 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: And yes, like I said, we've covered plenty of hip 118 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: hop artists in the past and in the present, where 119 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: in all cases the danger is front and center is 120 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: very much a part of the artist's disgraceful behavior. And 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: this is because, as we know when it comes to 122 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: rock starts, when it comes to musicians, the danger is 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: baked into the cake, so to speak. And part of 124 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: the reason we love a lot of these artists is 125 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: because they behave badly, and that behavior causes us to 126 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: question many things, including the reasons why we sometimes support 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: or supported these artists in the first place. These stories 128 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: about Johnny Paycheck shooting a guy in a bar, about 129 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 1: Easye funding his hip hop career with drug money, about 130 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: guns and roses starting a riot. Somehow, these stories incredibly 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: seems safe compared to the stories being alleged by one 132 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: hip hop star currently, that, of course, is Sean Ditty Combs. 133 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: New allegations were released this week against Combs, and let's 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: consider for a quick second just how fucking nuts and 135 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: outside the rails the behavior of this hip hop star 136 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: actually is. Now, I've gone over everything in the federal 137 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: indictment and I talked I think it was last week, 138 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: perhaps it was the week prior about this attorney from Houston, 139 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Tony Busby and the one hundred plus cases complaints criminal 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: complaints that he is bringing against Ditty outside of the indictment. 141 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Now he's released I believe six of these lawsuits this week. Okay, 142 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: so that's new. And these lawsuits are going to be 143 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: expanded as well, and I'm not going to go through 144 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: all of them, but I am just going to tell 145 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you that they are completely shocking. I'm going to read 146 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: you one of the complaints here. I'm not going to 147 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: read it from the indictment because it's it would honestly 148 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: take up it would take up the entire episode. But 149 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: I am going to read to you verbatim from a 150 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Business Insider. This is from October fourteenth. I'm recording this 151 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: on October sixteenth, and I'm reading you a direct from 152 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the Business Insider article because I don't want to miss anything, 153 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: and I don't want to I don't want anybody to 154 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: claim that I'm sensationalizing anything. And I want you guys 155 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: to know that what I'm about to read you is 156 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: a summarized version of what is in the actual lawsuit, Okay, 157 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: in the legal paperwork and the complaint. And by that 158 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's uh. I don't want to say 159 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: it's cleaned up. I mean, yeah, it's cleaned up a 160 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: little bit. It's not as shocking. Yet it's still super shocking. 161 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: So it says here the nineteen page and again, this 162 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: is one of six one of six lawsuits. Okay. The 163 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: nineteen page lawsuit is one of two filed Monday that 164 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: names an outside company as a defendant beyond the companies 165 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: belonging to Combs. It was filed on behalf of a 166 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: John Doe who now lives in Ohio. The plaintiff, the 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: John Doe, alleges that he was orally raped by Combs 168 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: while working in the stockroom of a flagship's store. The 169 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: plaintiff said he worked for Echo, a rival company to 170 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Combs's Sean John brand that was also carried by Macy's. Okay, 171 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: so here we go. On the day of the attack, 172 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: did he entered into the stock room with three armed bodyguards? 173 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: This is what the lawsuit says. One or more of 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: the guards struck the plaintiff, So it says here he 175 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: may have been pistol whipped, that's what he's alleging, causing 176 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: him to fall to his hands in knees. The plaintiff 177 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: says in the lawsuit that one or more of the 178 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: bodyguards threatened to kill him. So let's just take a second. Here, 179 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: let's move beyond the Business Insider article, here, beyond the 180 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: legal documentation, and let's try to put ourselves in the moment. 181 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: You're a dude working in a stock room. You're just 182 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: having your fucking day. Man. You know, and I've worked 183 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in stock rooms before, when I was younger. I've worked 184 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: in factories. I I know what it's like. You're off 185 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: in your own your own head. You might have headphones on, 186 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: you're chilling, you're thinking about lunch, that sandwich you packed, 187 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: You're getting ready to go, take a load off for 188 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: about forty five minutes before you jump back into your day. 189 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, one of the biggest hip 190 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: hop stars on the fucking planet walks in with three bodyguards. 191 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: Pistol whips you. Pistol whips you at work, and, as 192 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: far as I can tell, for no reason. And then 193 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and then the plaintiff claims the Combs demands he blows them, 194 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: performs oral sex. The plaintiff goes on to say that 195 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: Diddy was calling him Echo because that's the brand he 196 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: worked for. That's that's who he was stalking the shells for. Again, 197 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: you're sitting there, Sean Combs walks in with three security guards, 198 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: pistol whips you, is calling you echo the name of 199 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: the company you work for, demands that you give him 200 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: head and then orally rapes you, or so you claim, 201 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: all while you're just waiting to fucking go on your 202 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: lunch break. Then, and this is the shit that gets me, 203 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the specificity, the details in these lawsuits, in these legal documents. Then, 204 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: the lawsuit alleges that after the assault, Combs grabbed armfuls 205 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: of Sean John merchandise from the stock room, went out 206 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: onto the retail floor and began passing out merchandise to 207 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: an adoring crowd as if nothing had happened. The plaintiff 208 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: reported in the same day to company security, but there 209 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: was no follow up and he was soon barred from 210 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the store, the lawsuit alleges, and it should be mentioned 211 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that Diddy, through his lawyers, has denied that this or 212 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: any of the other allegations I mentioned in passing so 213 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: far have actually happened. Okay did He's claiming that he's innocent, 214 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: and the same thing that he said about the federal charges, 215 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: the same thing he's saying about these churches. Now, you 216 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: may say, Jake, you mentioned that the diddy stuff is shocking, 217 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: perhaps more shocking than anything that you've covered in disgrace Land. 218 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: But really, Jake, it's just it's just some rape. It's 219 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: just some pre lunch break rape, you know, getting a 220 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: little rapie before the lunch truck pulls up to the 221 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: to the Macy's loading dock. The details, again, the details 222 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: and the sheer horror of this action are as bad, 223 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: or sorry, worse than almost anything that I've that I've 224 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: covered so far. And and then when you start to 225 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: get into some of these other allegations that have come 226 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: out over the last few weeks that are outside of 227 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the federal indictment that the now famous one thousand or 228 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: ten thousand whatever it was bottles of lubricant sexual lubricant 229 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: that were seized, and the allegations that that lubricant, that 230 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: that lubricant was dosed with drugs that tranquilize you so 231 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: that they can use it to massage women and get 232 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: them to pass out and then abuse them sexually. I mean, 233 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even wrap my brain around this. 234 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: And as if the actions weren't bad enough, as if 235 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: the crimes and the allegations themselves are not horrifying enough. 236 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: They are particularly horrifying when you take into account that 237 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: these claims go back I think almost thirty years, three 238 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: decades of this behavior. So when I look at it 239 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, it is way worse than anything that 240 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I've covered. Okay, all of this goes way beyond anything 241 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: that we've spoken about here, and disgrace saying, yes, even 242 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: the Big Larch cannibalism episode that was one incident a 243 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: psychotic reaction to a drug. This, this Ditty stuff is 244 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: a sickening criminal conspiracy allegedly spanning years, decades, and beyond 245 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: the federal indictment, there are, of course, these separate lawsuits 246 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: that I've been talking about where the behavior described in 247 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: these suits involves the criminal conspiracy, the sex trafficking, drugging 248 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: underaged men and women to forced sex upon them unknowingly, 249 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: and now even now even the threat of murder. I'm 250 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: not going to go into the other lawsuits of these 251 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: new six, but there's there's one where Ditty threatens one 252 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: of his victims with murder if if they say anything. Okay, 253 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And of course, again Sean Combs denies this, saying through 254 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: his attorneys on Monday that the lawsuits filed here that 255 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm speaking about were done so to quote unquote Garner Publicity. 256 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: And they further say, mister Combs and his legal team 257 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: have full confidence in the facts, their legal defenses, and 258 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the integrity of the judicial process. The lawyer said in court. 259 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: They go on to say in court the truth will prevail. 260 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: The mister Combs has never sexually assaulted anyone adult or minor, 261 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: man or woman unquote. So there you have it. However, 262 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: if even a portion, if even a portion of this 263 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: is true, then this story is as dangerous as it gets. 264 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: This artist is as dangerous as they come. Part of 265 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: me doesn't know what to do with all this, you know, 266 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's I keep saying this, it's the biggest 267 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: music and true crime story of all time, and you know, 268 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: the music and true crime is what we do. Yet 269 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm confused as to how to how to deal with 270 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: all this. It's there's so much of it that is 271 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: so shocking that at a certain point it's not shocking, 272 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: and it makes it seem like what I've been doing 273 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: is is child's play. Suddenly telling the story of Jerry 274 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: Lewis getting away with murdering his wife feels cute compared 275 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: to thirty years of this alleged Diddy behavior. It's so much. 276 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: And again, we get the headlines, we get the memes, 277 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: the notifications, were becoming desensitized to the whole thing almost, 278 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: or at least I am, because I'm deep in it. 279 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: But the details in the ditty criminal complaints, they're more 280 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: shocking in a lot of ways, again, like I said, 281 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: than anything that I've seen in my research for Disgraceland 282 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: thus far. And then, of course, where this goes? Man, Okay, 283 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: as I've been saying, this is a question of where 284 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: does all this go? And who else was involved beyond Diddy. 285 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Now Tony Busby, who filed those lawsuits this week, who 286 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: has the one hundred plus lawsuits that he's going to file, 287 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: is doubling down on his claim that there will be 288 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: names soon that will shock us. We will see and 289 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: just you know, for an update, you know, he has 290 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: reached out to those big names, to those people that 291 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: he has evidence against in these criminal lawsuits who are 292 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: involved with Diddy, and he's essentially shopping settlements. I'm not 293 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: going to pass judgment on the people making these claims. 294 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna pass judgment on Tony Busby. Not 295 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: all criminal attorneys are the stereotype. But I'm just giving 296 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: you this information so you know, I think there's a 297 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: slim chance. Then in the final analysis, we sit back 298 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: and go, this was a money grab and Diddy was 299 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: innocent and he walks away. I think that is a 300 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: very there is a very slim chance of that happening. 301 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: At the same time, are we going to see culture 302 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: imploding evidence that is going to tear down some of 303 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: the biggest A list celebrities on the planet. I don't 304 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to go that far either. I think 305 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: it'll be somewhere in the middle, perhaps closer to that 306 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: last scenario that I just mentioned. I want to update 307 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: you guys a little bit here on jay Z and Beyonce. 308 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: I think it was in last week's episode I was 309 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: speaking critically of jay Z and how he hasn't really 310 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: defended himself on anything like that. Well, we have we 311 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: have new news on that. Piers Morgan the Journalists had 312 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: Jaguar Wright on his show. I've told you guys, who 313 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Jaguar Right is. Jaguar Right went off kind of on 314 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: jay Z in Beyonce with these wild allegations that she's 315 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: been making on TikTok that are I just I'm gonna 316 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to refrain from repeating them here, but they 317 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: are connected to Diddy. Of course, jay Z and Beyonce, 318 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: their attorney promptly went after Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan had 319 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: to issue an apology, so that says something. And apparently 320 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: jay Z and Beyonce have been issuing cease and desist 321 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: letters to content creators on TikTok who are repeating some 322 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: of the allegations that Jaguar Right is repeating. So I 323 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to update you there because I made a 324 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: point of mentioning how they they hadn't really jay Z 325 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: and Beyonce hadn't really said anything. I do want to 326 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: also mention that there's still you know, even though jay 327 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce have spoken up here through their attorney 328 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: at least or through their attorney's actions, I should say 329 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: they've acted through their attorney, not spoken up. I do 330 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: want to say that it's still kind of crickets from 331 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry on the Diddy allegations. So that's telling 332 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: I believe, So the Diddy allegations. My larger point beyond dangerous. Okay, 333 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: they are legitimately scary. They're monstrous. So here's a question. 334 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Would you leave your kid alone with the guys in 335 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Coldplay while you went off for a pack of smokes? 336 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: Maybe? 337 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: Probably okay? But would you leave your kid alone with 338 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Sean Combs Apps fusolutely not. If these allegations are true, 339 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: Shawn Combs has taken the danger of rock and roll, 340 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: the danger of hip hop, obviously way over the frigging line, 341 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: to a point where, like I said, even I am shocked, 342 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: which is very hard to do. But still, Sean Combs 343 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: is not a rock and roll star. He's a hip 344 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: hop mogul, and rock and roll is dead despite the 345 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Cramp's best intentions, and Shawn Combs he's in jail attempting 346 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: for a third time to get out on bail before 347 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: his trial begins on May fifth, twenty twenty five, but 348 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: the judge might just rule that he's too dangerous to 349 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: be let out. We shall see if these allegations turn 350 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: out to be true, than Shawn Combs is, like I said, 351 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: truly a monster, scarier in more dangerous guys and anything 352 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Halloween can serve up than anything in a Cramp song. 353 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Scarier and more dangerous than any horror movie. And speaking 354 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: of which, next week's full episode in Your Disgrace Slam 355 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Feed is on the film Poltergeist and the curse connected 356 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: to that movie. This movie scared the hell out of 357 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: me when I was a little kid. I don't find 358 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: it to be as scary now, and I showed it. 359 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: We showed it last year to my oldest son. I 360 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: don't think we let our youngest watch it, and he 361 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: was scared. He was super scared. There's something about polder guys, 362 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: where I don't know, like this sort of like just 363 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: before puberty years, you know, ten eleven. I don't remember 364 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: how old I was when I saw it, but it 365 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: was the perfect age for me to be freaked out 366 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: by it. So when you're listening to this next episode, 367 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: next episode in the Disgraceland feed on Poldier, guys, I 368 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: want you guys to be thinking about what movies scared 369 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: the hell out of you when you were a kid. Okay, 370 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: that's going to be the question of the week next week. 371 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back in 372 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: the flash with your voicemails, text, dms and more. All Right, 373 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: we are back. Thanks guys for listening to this bonus 374 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland. I want to update you guys on 375 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: the live stream that we had planned for last week 376 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: October ninth. We were, of course postponed due to Hurricane Milton, 377 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: which came storming through Florida also had a bunch of 378 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: tornadoes we weren't planning on anyways, We are working on 379 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: a solution to how we're going to bring you this story. 380 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll have news on that for you very shortly, so 381 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: you'll hear that here in the upcoming bonus episodes, upcoming 382 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: after party episodes. Also want to let you guys know 383 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: we are fully ensconced in the Halloween season right now 384 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: in Disgrace and you can tell from our programming We're 385 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: going full darkness on you and I'm loving it. I 386 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: hope you're loving it as well. We just released our 387 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: episode on the Cramps. We put back into the feed 388 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: one of the archive episodes on Black Sabbath. We did 389 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: some auzy stuff. But back to the Cramps and Black Sabbath. 390 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: We have these two new merch items that I'm really 391 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: excited about that are inspired by these episodes. We have 392 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: a Masters of Reality, Black Sabbath design for Rock Rolla, 393 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty stoked on. And we have a Cramps 394 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: inspired design as well for this other T shirt that 395 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: we've got for you guys. We did in collaboration with 396 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: a great artist I named Spencer Alexander. So these merch items, 397 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: these two new shirts that we have, they're gonna be 398 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: available to you well right now as you're hearing this. 399 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. This is a drop. It's a 400 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: merch drop. They're only going to be available for a week, 401 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: starting Thursday, the day that this bonus episode is released, Thursday, 402 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: October seventeenth, The merch items are going to be available 403 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: on our website. Go to the merch page. I'm gonna 404 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: be posting this stuff out through social media of course, 405 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: but again only for one week, seven days, and then 406 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: they're gone. So check those designs out. I wish I 407 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: could show them to you here. I can't check out 408 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: my Instagram x whatever. We'll get the stuff everywhere, and 409 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: of course, go to the website Disgrace lampod dot com 410 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: go to the merch page and you will see these 411 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: items there. Get them while they last. You're not gonna 412 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: want to sleep on these they're freaking awesome. I love them. 413 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I have to hold myself back from buying them for 414 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: my family all over the place, but I'm not going 415 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: to do that. We're going to keep the stock bountiful 416 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: for you guys. Get in there, cop this Halloween Disgraceline merch. 417 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna love it all right enough for me. Let's 418 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: hear from you, guys six one seven nine oh six 419 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: sixty six three aid to send me a text or 420 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: voicemail just like this caller from the six to one 421 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: nine on the question of the greatest rock and roll 422 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: band of all time. 423 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, this is Jesse from the six one nine. 424 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it simple and brief man. For me, 425 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: it's clean. I'm forty seven. I can think back to 426 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: the very first songs that I ever heard from them, 427 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: and here it is, all these years later, especially with 428 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: the resurgence from Bohemian Rhapsody back with Wayne's World. Thank 429 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: God for that. They're just transcendent in everything. I mean, 430 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: you've got, you got some slow rock, you got some 431 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: fast rock. You just got popped through them too. But 432 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: they're still one of the best, if not the best 433 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: rock and roll bands ever. Just my opinion from a 434 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: young man from San Diego, California. 435 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse, thanks for the voicemail, my friend. I 436 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you. My wife will appreciate your message even more 437 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: though she is a massive Queen fan, which reminds me. 438 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: I mean, we used to have a framed version of 439 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: the bicycle race poster. If you're Queen fan, you'll know 440 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: that came inside of the Jazz album. It's an incredible photograph, 441 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: credible poster. It's a bunch of well, fat bottomed girls 442 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: on bicycles and uh, it's great. And now I'm wondering, 443 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: where the hell where is that? I have that somewhere. 444 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna find it. I want to put 445 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: it back up. All right, let's check in with the 446 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: five to four to Roho on the same question. 447 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 4: All right, so you want to know what the greatest 448 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: rock and roll band of all time? Okay, So if 449 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: we're gonna for any user crash he already you set up. 450 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say Motorheads only because it was 451 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: vastly popular, but not commercially popular, kind of like you know, 452 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: there were mines of cramps so forth, but it had 453 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 4: such a wide base of fans, and they were all kids. 454 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: Most kids who did they identified with the insane rock 455 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 4: well rock and roll actually, but yeah, So I'm going 456 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: to go ahead and say it was Motorhead to make 457 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 4: great rock and roll band. I mean even Lendy says 458 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: it himself and concert he says, we are Motorhead, we 459 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: play rock and roll. So there you go, all right, droll, 460 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: All right. 461 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Take five four roh, Motorhead. Great answer, Motorhead. 462 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: You know, I talk a lot in the in the 463 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: in the previous block about how when we're framing this 464 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: question of great rock and roll bands, I like to 465 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: lean into these bands that are pushing the culture. And 466 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: even though Motorhead was subculture, they were pushing the culture. 467 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: Motorhead was a presence in the nineteen eighties, and every 468 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: high school in America you could you could find that 469 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: that iconic Motorhead logo on a jean jacket of a 470 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: gearhead somewhere in America on any given day, and I 471 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: would argue pretty much any high school in the United States. 472 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: So Motorhead were definitely counterculture, but they were pushing the cultures. 473 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: So I love your take here. All right, let's check 474 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: out the eight six four. 475 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: What's happening, Jake? 476 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: This is Will in age sixty four. First off, I 477 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: just want to say, I hope you all being safe 478 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: from Florida. We just got through Helene in South Carolina 479 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: and it was wild. We were without power from of 480 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: the week. My homies in Ashville of really going through it. 481 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: I hope you're really being safe down there. A couple 482 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: of things we connected on teaching through Instagram. Fucking love that. 483 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe you should look into Vince Giraldi, 484 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: that was famous for doing the Charlie Brown music. As 485 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: much as I put him on. 486 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: The map, he I'm pretty sure he had some back 487 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: and forth with the people. 488 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: Doing the cartoon and he wasn't too happy, especially with 489 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: the vocalized version of Christmas times here even like those 490 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: little brass and there with him. 491 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: But to go on, people that die too young. 492 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: I'm still going over your entire catalog of the episodes. 493 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: But dude, Jeff Buckley, like, what a fucking tragedy man, 494 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 5: what a talent that we really didn't get to see 495 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 5: fully blossomed. 496 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 6: You know. 497 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: The way he went out was disgraceful and just upsetting. 498 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: It sad, but I mean, I always thought, you know, 499 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: as much as everybody was very you know, very taken 500 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: with what he did. You know, there was a couple 501 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: of snakes in the grass, you know, really just out 502 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: for their own trying to push this too. But Jeff 503 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Buckley as like one of the best albums, and it 504 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: happen to be one of his only so like, I 505 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: thought that was a really cool one. I still think 506 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: they need to do an episode of Tim Armstrong given 507 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: his crazy. 508 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 3: History with Ivy and Rancid. 509 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: But dude, just want to say, I appreciate what you do. 510 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: Keep fucking doing it, man. We love it, man, we 511 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: love it. Be safe down here in Florida. Much love. 512 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: Eight six four. Thanks for the call. I hope you 513 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: guys are doing okay post Helene. Love that you're digging 514 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: on the Keith Jarrett, I remember, I remember our DM exchange. 515 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: Vince GERALDI I'm definitely familiar with, not just because of 516 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown and the Peanuts, although that was if I'm 517 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: being honest, that was what hit me to. Vince has 518 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: a great album that you probably know of, called Black Orpheus. 519 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: If anyone is interested, check that out by Vince Giraldi. 520 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: It's j Vince Gerraldi is a hip fucking dude man 521 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: jazz guy. I think even hung out with the dead 522 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: early in the early years. I could be wrong about that. 523 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I know he died young, but I think there was 524 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: some San Francisco connection there. A six four I I 525 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: did not know about his beef over the vocalized version 526 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: of Christmas Time is here. I love that. I love 527 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: knowing that that I find out to be very interesting 528 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: because although he apparently was beefing with it, I think 529 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: that that the version of that song on the from 530 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: a Charlie Brown Christmas or whatever it's called, is incredible 531 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: and I love it. And oh, Jeff Buckley, Yes, great answer, great, great, 532 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: great answer, And we have a Jeff Buckley episode. I 533 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard it or not. I'll drop 534 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: the number and the date later here in the Bone 535 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: episode so that you can find it in the archive. 536 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: All right, Ted from Texas called in, Yeah, and he 537 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: had to take kind of controversial take. I'm not gonna 538 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: mention I'm not going to play the voicemail from Ted, 539 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: but Ted, I want to address your voicemail even though 540 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to play because I don't want to give. 541 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much time to this theory, 542 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: the theory, your theory. You mentioned that someone else had 543 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: mentioned on a podcast that Diddy was responsible for killing Tupac, 544 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: and I don't but I can't go there. If that 545 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: comes out in this whole Diddy debacle, I'll be shocked. 546 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I will really be shocked. I think we will truly 547 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: be entering into uncharted territory there, very uncharted, chilling territory there. 548 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: And I go back and forth in my thinking historically 549 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: on who I think killed Tupac and who I think 550 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: killed Biggie and all to say, I just I just 551 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I have I have had strong opinions at times. 552 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: I no longer have those strong opinions. But I can 553 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: also say confidently that I do not believe that that 554 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Sean Combs killed Tupac Shakure. I just because it was relevant, 555 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to address it here. All right, Let's do 556 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: some texts and DMS five one to erho texts in 557 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: best rock and Roll band of All Time? Rolling Stones, 558 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: it's Keith. He's a lifelong student and fanboy of American music, 559 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: and he did it better than any American rocker. Exit 560 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: on Main Street is the press play album The Stooges 561 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: and MC five popped into my head too, you know, yeah, yeah, 562 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: I hate that the best rock and roll band of 563 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: all time is an English band. I just do because 564 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: rock and roll to me is an American art form 565 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: and we gave it to the world. But the Stones 566 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: gave it back to us better than anyone else did, 567 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: at least for a minute. There good solid four or 568 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: five year run, maybe a little longer. I don't know. 569 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: I have mapped it out in my head. I actually 570 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: I have, I just can't remember. I'm pretty sure I 571 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: mapped it out in my Exit on Main Street episode 572 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: on the Rolling Stones. But you know, and I guess 573 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: if I'm going number two for greatest rock and roll 574 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: band of all time, I would go led Zeppelin, another 575 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: English band. Maybe the Beatles are up there too. God, 576 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: I hate that it's not an American band. Who are 577 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the great American rock and roll bands? That's a question. 578 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: Who are they? Grateful dead but still by the Cramps 579 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: definition of rock and roll, Nah, not even close. Though 580 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: the Dead were dangerous, they truly were. You know, I've 581 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: talked about that too. Okay, you really this is a 582 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: great text, you really got me going here five one 583 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: to oh, oh see what I did there? The Kinks 584 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: though again English, you really got me. But then van 585 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: Halen maybe van Halen, I don't know. Six or four 586 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: to one, writes in Since your latest question is about 587 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: best rock and roll bands, I'm going to say in 588 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: history the answer is led Zeppelin, and times the answer 589 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: is low cut Connie, Great Tech six four to one, 590 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: and I think I agree with you. I just mentioned 591 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin, and I definitely agree with you when it 592 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: comes to low kut Connie and break a little news 593 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: here sixty four to one. I'm gonna have Adam on 594 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: the show next week on the bonus episode. As a 595 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: little addendum at the end is a little interview talk 596 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: about low Kuk Connie's movie, Adam's movie that he is out. 597 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: So there you go. Anyone knows who low kak Connie is, 598 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: You're welcome in advance. Anyone who doesn't go find low 599 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Kuk Connie and again you're welcome. You will love them. 600 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: Amazing rock and roll band. Five three zero Rights in 601 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: the Cramps. Yes, one of the best episodes ever. Well, 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Five three oh, I appreciate that. 603 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: Eight four or five rights saying, Hey, I hope I'm 604 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: not reaching you at a bad time, so polite. Eight 605 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: four or five you're definitely not from Massachusetts. Eight four 606 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: or five says, my name is Luke and I'm a disco. 607 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: I was listening to your after party episode from September 608 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty six. I believe I was hoping to reach you 609 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: in order to ask would it be possible for me 610 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: to still sign up for the upcoming book club. It 611 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: is on the Exorcist right, Yes, it is Luke, and 612 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: I was supposed to put this information out on how 613 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: to sign up. You can sign up if you're an 614 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: All Access member, but we don't need to be an 615 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: All Access member. Anyone can join, and I gotta get 616 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: that information out. I'll have more information next week, and 617 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: I in here in the bonus episode, and then of 618 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: course in the socials that's on the twenty ninth. I believe. Okay, 619 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: So Luke, thank you. I gonna make a note nine 620 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: oh four text in. It's Spencer text in more about 621 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: the greatest rock and roll band. A lot of Keith, 622 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of Rolling Stones. I mean, Keith is the 623 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: avatar for a rock and roll star. Spencer's talking about 624 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: Exit on Main Street, A five six rights in rock 625 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: and roll question from the after party. I hope I'm 626 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: not too late. Zz top Rio Grand Mud is badass. 627 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: I came to it way too late. ACDC. It's all 628 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: straightforward rock and roll, but as a teenager, it was 629 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin for me. Lots of Dare I say consensus 630 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: here on the greatest rock and roll band of all time? 631 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Lots of led Zeppelin, lots of Rolling Stone ones, ac 632 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: DC pulling up the rear a bit in the third, 633 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, I would go ACDC. I think Bond Scott 634 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: is probably the greatest rock and roll front man of 635 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: all time in my estimation, but Brian Johnson is not. 636 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: I like Brian Johnson a lot. I love him actually, 637 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: but he's no Bond Scott. And just there's you know, 638 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: I can't I can't go there with ac DC because 639 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: there's so much non bond Scott something. Most people don't 640 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: even know who Bond Scott is, but that Bond Scott 641 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: era stuff, particularly PowerEdge. Oh my god, definition of rock 642 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: and roll? All right? I said I do some dms, 643 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do some dms, okay. Hector Gomez on Facebook. Rights, dude, 644 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: leave town before you become the subject of your podcast. Well, 645 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: we didn't leave town, Hector, but the tornadoes and the 646 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: hurricanes scared the shit out of us. We're all thankfully, okay. 647 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: I just want to say thanks to everybody, Hector and 648 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: everyone else who sent me some me and my family 649 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: some kindness and some well wishes during what was a 650 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: very stressful time. I'm and I'm very grateful that things 651 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: turned out okay for us. Some shit went down fairly 652 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: close to us, but again thankful that we did not 653 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: suffer any damage to our property or to ourselves. At 654 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Matti sphere over on Instagram. Rights and listen to the 655 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: Cramps episode and the correct answer to your question at 656 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: the end about the greatest rock and roll band of 657 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: all time is the Beatles. I know, I know the Stones, 658 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: right Na, especially after Lemmy's remarks on the matter in 659 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: that doc for a few years ago. I don't know 660 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: how it couldn't be Unle that's the chorus, Chuck Barrier, 661 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: or maybe the Stooges honorable mention, the Ramones ACDC. This 662 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: guy's all over the place, Matt most Fear. I take 663 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: your point. The Beatles Beatles were more than a rock 664 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: and roll band to me, As Paul McCartney tells it, 665 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: They're just a great, literalc and roll band. It's an 666 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: awful Paul McCartney impersonation. Keep you can keep it in there, Matt. Okay, 667 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: but the Beatles just so much more than a rock 668 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: and roll band. It feels like an insult called them 669 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: just a rock and roll band. They changed pop music 670 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: forever on a grand scale. So I don't know. I 671 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: take your point though. At disgrace Lampod on Facebook, on Instagram, 672 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: over on the Xbox, not the Xbox on x you 673 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Hit me up on anything. Next 674 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: week's question of the week is going to be what movie? 675 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: What horror movies scared the hell out of you guys 676 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: as kids? Let me know. I'm gonna take a quick break, 677 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: come back on the other side and read some emails 678 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: and some reviews. All right, we are back, Disgracelampod at 679 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Johnny Vinyl writes in episode idea, this 680 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: could easily be a two parter apocalypse now the Doors 681 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: in a cursed cast. You could tie in the Doors 682 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: infamous first performance of the end with the issues in 683 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: the making of the movie, Martin Sheen getting fucked up 684 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: and punching the mirror and his heart attack on set, 685 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: Brando not rehearsing a thing and being completely insane, Dennis 686 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: Hopper hi and riffing his own lines because he also 687 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: refused to learn thing. You can spin this with brilliance, 688 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: Johnny Vinel, I appreciate the email. That's a great fucking idea. Actually, 689 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: Man Apocalypse now sounds Johnny like you've seen Coppola's wife's 690 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: documentary Hearts of Darkness, which is incredible. And uh yeah. Also, 691 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of there's a lot of great 692 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: little tidbits from the making of that movie that are 693 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: unknown that would be fun to get into, like how 694 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: Harvey kai Tel was originally cast to play the role 695 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: of Martin Sheen played but didn't get it. I like this. 696 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: I like this good email. Strong Disgrace Lapod at gmail 697 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: dot com. My buddy Grayson Schmidt writes in again, what's 698 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 1: a hurricane? Grayson likes to write in and and correct 699 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: the way I pronounce words. Grayson, I really appreciate it. 700 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what a hurricane is. I know what 701 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: a hurricane is. It's something that I hide in my garage. 702 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: From there you go, Grayson, that was for you, Okay. 703 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronounce saying this one correctly. I think 704 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: it's high alsop says Hey, Jake and team. I'm not 705 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: sure if you've already covered her, but Sophie aka Sophie Neon, 706 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: Xeon or Neon, a prolific music producer and activists, was 707 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: an interesting and amazing person, and her death has been 708 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: put under more scrutiny as of late. Definitely worth a look, 709 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: if not an episode. I'm a huge fan of your 710 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: show and it don't mean the world to me if 711 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: you discuss this on the show or respond to this email. 712 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: Your episodes are so in depth and it's clear you 713 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: love the work that you do. Keep it up. Uh, 714 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: thank you for the email. I've never heard of this artist, 715 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: but I am going to look into it. I'm particularly interested. 716 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: We don't actually do a lot of missing artists episodes, 717 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: and the subject of your email, even though you mentioned 718 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: her death, you're the subject is strange artist disappearance. So 719 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that this artist disappeared Sophie and was then 720 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: found to be dead. I don't know. I'm going to 721 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: look into. I am intrigued, is my point, and you're right. 722 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: I do love the work that I do. I'm very 723 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: grateful to be able to do this, so thank you, 724 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to all of you. All right, Disgrace Sampod at Gmail. 725 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: You want to hit us up on anything now listen 726 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: you know the drill. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 727 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: or Spotify. Help us out with the discovery of the show, 728 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: and you can win some free merchandise, some free shirts, 729 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: some free pins, whatever we got lying around. It's real easy. 730 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: You just go to the Apple podcast app, you go 731 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: to the Spotify app, you engage with us there, leave 732 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: a nice review. People see it. They then listen to 733 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: the show. This one comes from IR two four to 734 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: two says insanely good show and worth your time. The 735 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: writing is amazing. This is on Apple Podcasts, of course, 736 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: the stories and knowledge amazing. I love true crime. Hear 737 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: about all the shenanigans it starts. Get into IR two 738 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: four two goes on to say a lot of nice 739 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: things about the show. We appreciate that at IR two 740 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: four two. I R two four two. Hit us up, 741 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: Disgrace Sampod at gmail dot com or hit me up 742 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Disgrace sampod or on x We'll get 743 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: you some free merch all right over on Spotify, Jody, 744 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: super Magic for Ransie for Zannie Farransi super Magic for Zannie. Okay, 745 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: Jody writes in awesome episode. Maybe an episode on she's 746 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: talking about the Cramps episode. Maybe an episode on Miles 747 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: Copeland might be interesting. Gonna have to go led Zeppelin 748 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: for greatest rock and roll band, both the pure awesomeness 749 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: and for the generations of influence they have. First of all, 750 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: great answer the greatest rock and roll band. We talked 751 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: about that before. Also love your thinking on Miles Copeland. However, 752 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do a police episode and 753 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: work the Miles Copeland topic into the subject of the police. 754 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the way I'm going to approach that. 755 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Jody, get in touch with gay submurch All right, 756 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: all right, guys, this episode is nearing its end, but 757 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: the after party continues. As you know, for all our 758 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: All Access members, you can sign up today you're gonna 759 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: hear an extended version of this after party. You're also 760 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: going to get some ad free episodes and a new 761 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: full free episode of disgrace sand per month just by 762 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: becoming a member. Go to disgrace sampod dot com slash 763 00:42:52,760 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: membership to become an all access member today. All right, guys, 764 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: we are back. Listen. Go to the disgrace land site 765 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: right now, disgrace landpod dot com. Go to our merch page. 766 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Cop some of that new merch Check out those designs. 767 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: They're freakin' awesome. You're gonna love them. They're only available 768 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: for seven days. The Black Sabbath homage t shirt that 769 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: we have, the Cramps tribute that we're paying check those out. 770 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: Get those very HALLOWEENI you're gonna dig them. Disgrace landpod 771 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: dot com, and go to the merch page. Cop that 772 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: limited edition merchandise. All right, listen. I mentioned a bunch 773 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: of episodes, as I always do, bunch of Disgraceland episodes. 774 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: In this bonus episode. I mentioned Jeff Buckley. That's episode 775 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: number one thirty two, released on June sixth, twenty twenty three. 776 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned Easy E, which coincidentally was released as episode 777 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: number one thirty one, and that release date was just 778 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: before that was May thirtieth, twenty twenty three. I mentioned 779 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: the Ramones. You gotta go back all the way to 780 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: episode seventy two in the archive. Okay, from February sixteenth, 781 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, for our Ramones episode and Mets fans 782 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: being sons and daughters of Queen's you should listen to 783 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: the Ramones episode. Okay, get that spirit going for your 784 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: Mets in the playoffs right now? All right, we of 785 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: course mentioned the Rolling Stones. I'm talking about the greatest 786 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: rock and roll bands of all time. A lot of 787 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: people brought up Exile on Main Street as an example 788 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: of that Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street. Specific episode 789 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: that we have for you is episode number thirty six, 790 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: released back on July twenty third, twenty nineteen. Guys, we're 791 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: up to over two hundred episodes right now. Two hundred episodes. 792 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even blink an eye. I didn't even think 793 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: to celebrate that two hundred. It's a big fucking deal. 794 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna have to do it at two fifty. 795 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: We did it at one hundred. I'll do something special 796 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: for two fifty. Two hundred episodes, lots of episodes in 797 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: the archive, is my point. Just gave you a couple 798 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: go do those Tell a friend you know Stones fans, 799 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: Romones fans, Easy E. Buckley fans. Pass that shit around, 800 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: all right, don't bowguard it as always, Thanks for all 801 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: the calls, Thanks for the voicemails, Thanks for the reviews. 802 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: If I read your review here, get in touch so 803 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: I can get you some merch. I got to get 804 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: out of here. So let's recap number one right now 805 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: in your feed. Our episode on the Cramps, number two 806 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from our archive. We're 807 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,479 Speaker 1: talking about Poltergeist next week. All right, So the question 808 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: of the week, what movie scared the hell out of 809 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: you when you were a kid? And let me know. 810 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: Number three merch winners, get in touch. You know who 811 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: you are. A number four book club coming on October 812 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: twenty ninth. Okay, get to reading The Exorcist. You still 813 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: got time. Get in here with us. I'm gonna put 814 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: out some details on how you can join the book 815 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: club number five. Remember, no one cares about great storytelling 816 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: more than you do. In well, that's a disgrace, all right. 817 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: In honor of this week's episode, subject to Cramps, me 818 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: reading to you the Billboard charts from June thirteenth, nineteen 819 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: seventy eight. The day The Cramps played a live set 820 00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: at a mental institution in northern California. One Shadow Dancing 821 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: Andy Gibb last week two, peak position one weeks on 822 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: Chart ten. Number two, You're the One that I Want. 823 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: John Travolta and Olivia Newton John last week one, peak 824 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: position one weeks on Chart twelve, Number three, Baker Street 825 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Rafferty last week five, peak position week three weeks 826 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: on chart Peak nine, Big number four. It's a hard 827 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: Bonnie Tyler peak last week to six. 828 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 6: Peak positions weeks on chart last thirty number five, too 829 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 6: Much two Legs Johnny Mathis Number Swarms last year peak position. 830 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing.