WEBVTT - Marijuana Vs. Alcohol: Which Is Worse For You? 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.160 Hey, everybody, we are going back on the road and 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.720 we are super excited because we're gonna be doing brand 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.400 new material, which we are certainly glad for. And if 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:13.640 you live in oh Denver, or Cleveland or St. Louis 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.640 or Boston or Washington, d C. Then you can come 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.400 see us. Yes, you can come see us. Specifically, if 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.639 you're in Boston, We're gonna be at the Wilbur Theater 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.640 on April four, and then the next night on April five, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.440 we're gonna be in d C at the beloved Lincoln Theater. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.520 We love those two places and we sure do. 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We're gonna have 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.399 a great time at all these so we want you 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.080 to come see us. You can go to the Wilbur 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.440 dot com. You can go to ticket fly for the 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.760 d C show. You can go to ticket Master for 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.440 the St. Louis show. Search us on playhouse square dot 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.040 org for the Ohio Theater Cleveland show, and then lastly 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.840 a x S dot com to search for us at 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.360 the Gothic Theater and we will see you guys very soon. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.039 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:41.039 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:47.000 Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry Roland. And 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.040 this is stuff you should know because you put the 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.880 three of us together, roll us up in the paper, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.720 add a match to the mix, you've got one great podcast. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:05.600 Or throw us all in a sniffed ter okay, swirl 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:13.320 us around and then we're a an appartif that's nice? 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:18.480 And why not just why why decide? Why choose one 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.320 over the other, right, because then we would kill each 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.440 other in a car. Yeah, we would, we would. Well, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.560 let's start. Let's start legitimately here, Chuck, first of all, 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.440 how are you great? Good? Okay, I am too, But 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.079 let's start even more legitimately than that. Let's get in 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.440 the way back machine. Okay, I live in this thing. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.720 Emily kicked me out, so I've been I've been living 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.240 in the way back machine for a few weeks. Now. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.840 It's with your dog, just one of them. Though she 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.200 only gave me one of the dogs. It's kind of 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.240 gave me in here, you know. It is um Okay, Well, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.840 we're in Chuck's repurposed way back sheet and we're just 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.680 going just for a second, Chuck, we're going back to 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.400 two thousand fourteen, and we're going to go to New 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:09.320 York City and we're going to buy a New Yorker magazine. Okay, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:15.400 now we can go back to two thous eighteen. Okay, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.760 and we're gonna flip open this New Yorker magazine. Oh look, Chuck, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:23.280 it's an interview with then President Barack Obama. Do you 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.639 remember him? Do so? In two thousand fourteen, Obama gave 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.920 this interview to New Yorker, and he really kind of 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.440 created a bit of a stir. I mean, since he 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.400 first ran in two thousand and eight, everybody knew he 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.920 smoked pot. There are pictures of it. Like he never 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.880 he never denied it. He admitted a smoking pot. But 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.880 this interview in two thousand fourteen really just changed things 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.600 because in it, Obama said that he did not believe 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:53.920 that his pot smoking was anything really worse than his 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.880 his bad cigarette habit, and that he he doesn't think 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.560 he didn't think that it was more dangerous an alcohol, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.200 which is really saying something because I mean, like you know, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.360 as teenagers have been saying for decades and decades now, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.320 it's crazy that something like alcohol can be bought like 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.159 at any corner store, at drug stores in some states 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.040 stores and and that like you can drink it as 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.800 long as you're twenty one and get in your car 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.359 and drive up to a certain limit. But pod is 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.080 totally illegal in most states. Still, um, and Obama was 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.960 saying kind of throwing down the gauntlet, saying, you know, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.720 I don't in a very roundabout way, he was saying, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.080 I don't. I don't know that that's necessarily right, that 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.200 pots should be illegal and you should be able to 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.920 buy alcohol anywhere because pot's not as bad as booze, yeah, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:49.080 which was man, times have really changed in our you know, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.200 in the past like twenty years, because I remember when 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.520 Clinton it was such a scandal that he had inhaled 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:01.159 and he didn't inhale. Well he the thing came out 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.880 and he said, well I tried to and I couldn't 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.760 and a liar, Well, who knows that may have been true. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.200 I just think my reaction was, well, that just means 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:17.000 you're super lame. You don't know what you're doing, Bill Um. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.760 But it was just such a scandal. And then I mean, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.360 here we are now where you know, state after state 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:30.560 is is legalizing recreational marijuana. Yeah, which, yeah, is really 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.760 interesting to see that change happen, not even like medicinal 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.640 marijuana anymore. That was like the Gateway legislation. Now it's like, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.080 straight up, you want to smoke pot to get high 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.320 just for fun, you can do that. And let's see, Chuck. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:49.200 So it started with Washington and um Colorado, right, I 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.440 think were they the first two. They were back in 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.760 two thousand fourteen, and just since two thousand fourteen, you've 0:05:54.800 --> 0:06:02.640 now got Oregon, California, Vermont, Washington, d C. Nevada, Massachusetts, Maine, Alaska, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:09.800 and Washington State. Yeah, it was the state so nice. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.840 I said it twice. Or maybe they just super like 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:18.240 like when you you reaffirm your wedding vowels, maybe they 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.039 doubled down a few as Leonard and said this is 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.640 so great, we just want to like legalize it again. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.680 I think they did do that in Washington. We were 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.240 there recently for live shows, and I can tell you 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.960 they definitely renewed their vows with pots. Yeah, we were 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.440 in San Francisco. Uh, Colorado, or we're gonna be in 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.840 Colorado and then Washington and Oregon. So and we're going 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.600 to Massachusetts. Uh, we just need to hit Nevada and 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.240 we're going to d c yah, Nevada, Maine in Alaska 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.080 and it will be the stuff you should know up 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.800 in Smoke Tour. We need T shirts for that one. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.880 Not that we would ever do that, no, no, but 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.599 we could still make T shirts that suggest it. Yeah, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.000 and my any joke on stage in San Francisco, we 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.599 were there literally the weekend that the first recreational pot 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.840 shops opened, and the joke was San Francisco day after 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:15.440 exactly like San Francisco was the day before that killed 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.800 They loved it. So the upshide of all of this 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:25.000 is that with all these states like legalizing marijuana, the 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.120 comparison between pot and alcohol has kind of become less 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.040 of a like a stoner conversation, like it's actually a 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.720 legitimate academic discussion. Nowadays, there's a lot of different things 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.520 that come into play. Before it was kind of like, well, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.520 ultimately it doesn't matter because Uncle Sam, well actually Tricky 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.720 Dick says that it's illegal. So it's illegal, So it 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.520 doesn't really matter if it's worse for you or not. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.040 It's way worse to be put into jail um than 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.400 it is to to be tipsy off of alcohol and 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.720 maybe risk curosis of the liver. Right, So that ended 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.640 all conversations there. But as that, as that conversation under 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.560 has kind of fallen away, the conversation has kind of 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.400 opened up. So I guess what we're doing here today 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.640 is doing the best we can at putting the conversation 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.160 to rest, even though now that we've dived into it, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.360 we've seen that the conversation is very far from being 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.120 put to rest. Yeah, and this one's gonna there are 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.880 a lot of stats. It's very sad heavy episode, which 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.040 is fun. But um, the first thing we should point 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.560 out is that in terms of marijuana, because it was illegal, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.079 there's hasn't been a lot of funding throne at studies 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.080 over the years because, like you said, it's like, why bother, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.960 it's illegal, We're not gonna put our resources towards studying it. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.400 Now they kind of have to. But the long and 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.120 short of it is we we are still and will 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.120 be for many years gathering data on what pot does 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.120 to the body, how dangerous it is. But early results 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.160 clearly indicate at least in the short term, and we're 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.280 gonna run the gamut here, but in the short term, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:03.400 you can start a night out having fun, drinking and 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:08.800 end up dead hours later just from the alcohol. Yeah 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.800 I'm not saying by getting in a car or jumping 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.120 off a building, like all those things can happen too, 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.719 but you can drink yourself to death in hours. Yeah, 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.439 they're they're so. The CDC put out like a very 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:24.480 famous statistic now, um that said that every year in 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.760 the United States, about eighty eight thousand people die from 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.679 alcohol every year, and that's all alcohol related deaths like 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:37.600 liver disease, car crashes all that, but about half of 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:42.880 those are from binge drinking, which is drinking usually for 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.600 men about five or more drinks, and for women, I 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.080 think it's like three or more drinks within two hours 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.199 or something like that, and then and then going on, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.960 and once you start to get to that point, you 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:58.800 start to run an increasing risk of alcohol poisoning. Yeah, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.600 I mean it's your he cannot process alcohol fast enough 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.880 like you can. You can drink past that amount, Like 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.400 I said, such that, I mean you hear sad stories 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.960 about the the kid in college who literally died from 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:19.520 drinking one night. Yep. Uh. That cannot be said of marijuana. Um, well, 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.040 it depends. Well, it doesn't depend, No, it does. I 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.480 think it's literally impossible to consume as much marijuana as 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.560 you would have to consume over a period of hours 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.280 to die from it. Okay, yes, yes, absolutely, you're right. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.080 You're right, it doesn't depend. That's that's true. Like, and 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.640 there's a lot of people who point to that statistic 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.920 where they basically say thousand people die a year um 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.400 from alcohol, zero people die a year from marijuana. That's 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:53.320 not necessarily true. But if you're talking about overdosing, yes, yeah, absolutely, like, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:58.920 people don't overdose and die from marijuana. Many have tried. Sure, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.120 it's especially Cheech and chong, but they the the amount 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.600 of th HC you would have to ingest is so 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:13.600 um so much more than you could possibly take under 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.199 normal circumstances that you're just not going to So like, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.640 what are the numbers here to figure this out? Well, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.680 your statman, I just want to set up that we 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.600 used High Times as a source for this episode because 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.960 we're like, okay, so how much how much th HC 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.240 is in pot? And how much does that break down 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.280 to depending on whether you smoke a bowl or smoke 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.960 a joint or eat an edible And we said, well, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.439 who would know more than anyone else, And it turns 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.079 out it's High Times. Yeah. So here's the thing with 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.440 Pot two. It really varies according to who you are, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.800 how much you typically ingest, how strong the pot is. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.640 But are we gonna go with this? These numbers here 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:59.520 th HC, which I think is fairly average these days, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.120 which is per high, but that's normal. It's a normal 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.079 amount of I think, uh, you you that's about a 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:11.439 hundred and eighty milligrams program of marijuana, right, And if 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.840 people don't know. T HC is the the active ingredient 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.920 that gets you high in the marijuana plant. Yeah, and 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.640 what is the delta nine catra hydro cannab at all? 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.200 Oh you just read the tattoo on your forum. It's misspelled, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.679 as you can see. I was wonder what that was. Uh. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.880 Here's the thing, though, You lose th HC when it's 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:36.720 burned about uh And trust me, marijuana users have tried 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.040 to lower that number um as much as possible for 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.319 the and to some success, like supposedly with the vaporiors 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.600 or you lose a lot less because you're not actually 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.480 burning the THC. Right, Yeah, I mean they are all 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.080 manner of ways to ingest marijuana now, um, partially because 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.920 of I mean there always were, but partially because of 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.560 this recreational um. And I always wondered what that would 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.800 look like if it was legalized, because you know, I've 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.560 been Amsterdam and stuff, and I thought, was it going 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.400 to be like that where you have marijuana in jars 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.120 and like a they call them bud tenders, which is 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.000 so stupid, uh? Or I thought, well, no, it's America. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.760 I bet you anything. It's gonna be like a cigarette 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.240 pack that's highly manufactured, but just joints, and it turns 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.520 out it's uh, it's sort of not either. I mean 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.120 it's it's very on the up and up. Like I've 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.000 been into one of those stores just to look around, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:36.480 and it's, um, it's like visiting a any coffee or 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.600 tea shop. You know, it's all very it's it's not 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.080 just dudes with with a bag that they throw into 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.559 another bag. You know, they pull it out of their stock. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.040 I guess, So, I guess it's my way of saying 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.800 it's um. The recreational pot shops that I've seen have 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.440 been very professional, and everything is very packaged and and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.240 it's just like any other commodity. So did you walk 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.560 in and go are you? Are you the bud tender? 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.640 I'm from I'm from Hotlanta. I'm doing a story for 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.080 a podcast. So so okay. So, depending on how you 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.920 ingest the pot, especially whether you're burning it or not, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.400 you're gonna lose some THHC. But if you burn it, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.120 you lose about So if you have a hundred and 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.200 eighty milligram per gram th HC, it's suddenly down to 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:28.040 what seventy two milligrams per gram, and if you're smoking 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.440 a half a gram joint. Let's say you're even smoking 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:35.120 a one gram joint and you're getting seventy two milligrams 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.600 of th HC from that joint, you're still immensely shy. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.240 And on the level of orders of magnitude different um 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.680 of how much it would take to overdose on on 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.760 th HC. Yeah, I mean, I think the number in 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.880 here is a minimum of like a hundred and fifty 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.960 joints you would have to smoke by yourself over a 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.400 very short period of time. Yeah, because so you're you're 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.120 getting seventy two milligrams in that joint of th HC, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.080 but it would take something like at least fifteen grams 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.760 of th HC to to overdose. So yes, you would 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.920 have to smoke hundreds of joints and basically a day 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.280 to start to build up enough th HC in your 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.360 bloodstream that you overdose fatally. I'm trying to picture the study, 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.960 like the being behind the one way glass and the 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.920 guy p and like, well then he is this, and 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.280 they're like and ten and he's like I can do 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.480 it anymore. Like that's why you would not overdose. There's 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.160 just no way. Yeah, for sure, I would imagine you'd 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.840 fall asleep or get bored or forget what you were 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.320 doing or whatever. I think it'd be more likely that 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.760 you would have to eat like a triple layer cake 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.600 made entirely of marijuana. So I'm glad you said that 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.560 because that definitely edibles are different, and they're different in 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.440 a couple of ways. One way they're different is that 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.200 they don't burn. You're not burning the th HC, so 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.040 you're not necessarily losing a bunch of it. Do You 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.080 also can eat more of it than say you're smoking 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.680 of it as far as th HC is concerned, So 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:19.120 you can still you can definitely increase like how much, um, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.040 how much th HC you're getting by eating it rather 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.080 than smoking it. But the other thing about edibles is 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.800 that you actually your body does something differently with them, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.200 and that is that when you're smoking marijuana, you're introducing 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.920 th HC and it's normal form from your lungs to 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.120 your heart to your brain. Th HC can cross that 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.680 blood brain barrier. But you know, it's not the greatest 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.480 at it. It's kind of hit or miss, right when 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.920 you ingest t HC where you eat it like an edible, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.640 it goes through your digestive system, and that th HC 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.680 is metabolized. It's broken down into the um by the 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.080 liver and then set into the bloodstream. Well, what what 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.880 the metabolized version does is it's much better at crossing 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.920 the blood brain barrier. So you get a much more 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.960 powerful high from eating an edible, and you get a 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.280 higher dose of th HC even though it's this THHC metabolite. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.840 So eating edibles is different, and it is possible that 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:25.520 it would bring you closer, statistically speaking, increase your risk 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.280 of of coming near a fatal dose of th HC. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.439 But again, still like that, the amount you would have 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.360 to eat is ridiculously high. Yeah, And I think most 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.919 of the cases of UM since recreational has been introduced, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.639 of oh my god, I have to go to the 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:46.480 emergency room have been people that ate too too much pot. Yeah. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.200 And and also the other one of the other big 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.439 problems with edibles, well there's two of them. One is 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.040 that people eat too much because it takes like hours 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.320 to kick in and they're like, oh, I'm not feel anything, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.320 let me have four more, yeah, which is a real 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.600 problem with those things. And then set. And we also 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.840 kids tend to get into edibles more than they you know, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.040 find your your pot and roll a joint, which is 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.879 dangerous because they have lower body mass. And and I 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.800 would I mean they're fatal dose or whatever could cause 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.280 them health problems is much. It's a much lower threshold 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.840 for a small kid, yeah for sure, which is you know, scary. Yeah, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:25.679 well yeah sure. Um. All right, well so we covered 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.840 the O D aspect. Well do you want to take 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.800 a break. All right, let's take a break. Let's try 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.800 to decide. Let's take a break. We'll come right back 0:18:34.840 --> 0:19:02.800 after this. All right, all right, so we covered the 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.320 O D thing. Like I said before the break, Um, 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.320 I feel like that's settled. Now that's subtle law. So UM, 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.879 here's the other thing alcohol is that the way it 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:16.560 reacts and interacts with other drugs is significantly more different 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.320 than marijuana. UM. Most people know this. But that's why 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.440 they on your prescription bottles they say things like don't 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.680 drink when you take this, because depending on what the 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:31.320 drug is, UM, whether it's pain killers or um meds 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:35.080 for your mental well being, UM, you can either end 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.119 up having a higher dose of that or a lower 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.399 dose depending on what it is how much you've had 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.120 to drink. And that's always scary because we've seen all 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:49.399 over the place people accidentally overdosing by combining prescription drugs 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.239 and alcohol. Yeah, I mean, like if you get a 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.200 lower dose in its medicine you really need, that's Yeah, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.800 it's just as bad. And it's it's because alcohol is 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.640 either exciting all the enzymes in your liver and they 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.000 metabolize the medicine faster than it's designed to be, so 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.919 you get a big dose, or they hog all of 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.920 the enzymes and the medicine just kind of passes through 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.680 your liver unmetabolized and you don't get the dose you're 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.080 looking for. Either way, it's not good for you. Yeah. 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.680 And like this article that you put together points out, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.640 though it is you, we should mention that marijuana though, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.399 can impair your coordination. So there is a risk of 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.240 you know, just literally getting hurt because you're uncoordinated. Um. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.679 You may you may trip over your coffee table and 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.119 fall into your couch or your papas on or your 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.680 lava lamp. You know, you don't want to go head 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.439 first into a lava lamp. No, that's bad. Um, I 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.560 know we're making light, but seriously that that is a 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.080 risk um or just you're you know, unprotected sex because 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.760 your inhibitions are lowered. Although what the same can be 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.440 said for alcohol. Yes, that's absolutely true, and I think 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.040 this article does say it, it's just in a different spot. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:03.399 But yeah, your judgment can be impaired to which can 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.399 lead to all manner of indirect effects which might seem like, 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.520 you know, that doesn't count, but actually they very much 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.359 do count because you wouldn't have otherwise made those decisions 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.840 if you hadn't been drunk or stoned. They count for sure. 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.720 So those are some of the short term health effects 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.760 from drinking, you know, death, but there's um long term 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.920 ones too that that come on. And this is where 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:33.000 the uh that literature um or the lack of literature 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.160 studying pot like really kind of comes into play. Because 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.600 we've been studying alcohol and the effects of alcohol for 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.560 so long now we have it pretty well licked that 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.480 alcohol is really really bad for you if you drink heavily, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.720 but strangely kind of good for you if you drink 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.200 in moderate amounts. With pot We just we just don't 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.080 we don't know. There hasn't been enough study. And part 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.760 of the problem, like you're saying, is it was illegal, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.720 and since it was illegal, it was kind of difficult 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:06.760 to get your hands on study participants because they, you know, 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.240 I didn't want to tell you that they smoked pot. 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.240 Maybe have that go on any kind of permanent record 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.480 or something. Yeah, I mean for alcohol, the obvious physical effects, 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.800 it's stuff on your liver, and alcoholic liver disease is 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:25.240 a real thing that can progress from early stages fibrosis 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.960 to eventual liver cancer. UM. And they don't really know 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:36.120 exactly the mechanism for why some people can drink heavily 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.600 well into their old age and not have any liver 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.520 damage UM or you know, maybe some liver damage but 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.639 not die of liver cancer, and then other people are 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.040 much higher risk. They don't fully get that. I mean, 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.120 it's just gotta be genetics, right. Anytime that comes up 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.639 and they're like, well, you know, we have no idea 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.560 why these people are subject to it and other people aren't. 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.199 It's always it's gotta be genetics. Like Keith Richards alive, 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:04.400 No medical science will never explain that he should totally 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:09.640 donate his body. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Um yeah, 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.640 he really should. Actually it's like a legitimate jokey thing 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.280 to say, but it's true. So um, so you've got 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:22.200 alcohol messing with your liver um with pot, they're they're 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.639 kind of like, okay, well, if you're a chronic pot user, 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:32.040 what's what's the problem? Chronic pot user? Chronic chronic pot user. 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.400 I think that's the way you would say it. So 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.680 with with um, a chronic pot user, And it's defined differently, 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.280 which I think is another thing that kind of makes 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:45.760 the literature on the topic kind of difficult to study too, 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.800 is people I don't think there's a universal this is 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.000 what a chronic pot user is. I think each study 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.480 defines it for itself. But for a long time, there 0:23:55.600 --> 0:24:01.160 was some literature that said that smoke pot lowers your 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.639 sperm count, but almost all of those were from the 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.760 seventies and eighties, and all these studies referred to pot 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.640