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Speaker 1: then on the twenty two of May, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: just can't wait. But wait, wait, there's there's more. We're

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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Speaker 1: Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry Roland. And

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Speaker 1: this is stuff you should know because you put the

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Speaker 1: three of us together, roll us up in the paper,

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Speaker 1: Or throw us all in a sniffed ter okay, swirl

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Speaker 1: us around and then we're a an appartif that's nice?

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Speaker 1: And why not just why why decide? Why choose one

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Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start legitimately here, Chuck, first of all,

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Speaker 1: how are you great? Good? Okay, I am too, But

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Speaker 1: the way back machine. Okay, I live in this thing.

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Speaker 1: Emily kicked me out, so I've been I've been living

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Speaker 1: going just for a second, Chuck, we're going back to

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, and we're going to go to New

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Speaker 1: now we can go back to two thous eighteen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna flip open this New Yorker magazine. Oh look, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: it's an interview with then President Barack Obama. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember him? Do so? In two thousand fourteen, Obama gave

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Speaker 1: like something like bipolar doesn't really come on until your

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Speaker 1: mid teens. Anyway, maybe pot could trigger that or depression

427
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: or something if it is laying dormant inside of you.

428
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: But recently they have done a little more studying and

429
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: they do think that it can um in your earlier

430
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: years exacerbate these mental health disorders. Yeah, if you are

431
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: like predisposed, right, which is that's kind of a significant

432
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: finding too, Although it makes sense intuitively because like when

433
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: you are a teenager, your brain is still developing, and

434
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: pot has been shown to to change your cognitive development,

435
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: So it would make sense that if there's a a

436
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: biological basis for some mental health issues like depression or

437
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: bipolar schizophrenia, that it would it would stand a reason

438
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: that pot could have some effect on that. And they

439
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: finally have said, yes, we we generally can see that

440
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: that pot probably makes mental health or predisposition of mental

441
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: health issues worse in adolescence, which is is sad. And

442
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: it's significant too because at least in the US, um

443
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: pot use peaks among kids who are age eighteen and

444
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: then it starts to taper off or tapers off fully

445
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: by the mid twenties and most people. Yeah, so the

446
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: the the majority of people who smoke pot in the

447
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: US are teenagers, anyway, But these studies are starting to

448
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: show that the last people who should be smoking pot

449
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: are teenagers because it can affect their brain development make

450
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: them less than sharp. Yeah, I wonder about those numbers.

451
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Do seem dubious to me? The eighteen of eighteen and

452
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: taper off of mid twenty. Yeah, and I'm not just

453
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: thinking of Willie Nelson. Here's the results. For sure. You

454
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: have to wait him differently because he smokes a lot

455
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: of pot. That's what I hear um with Pott obviously,

456
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: although things are a little bit different these days with

457
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: like you said, vaporizing and edibles and stuff like that.

458
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: But in the olden days when everybody just smoked it, um,

459
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: bronchitis obviously in just various um long air passage issues

460
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: is sort of an obvious risk. Um. Although they are

461
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: now thinking that the newest data says that marijuana smoke

462
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: doesn't affect the body like tobacco smoke does, And they

463
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: have no idea why now that this doesn't make sense

464
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: to them, and they're like, well, they've started to wonder

465
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: if pot has some sort of protective chemical in it.

466
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: It's just kind of you know, it gives the lungs

467
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: a glass of milk and tucks them in after after

468
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: it's done being passed through there. Well, yeah, and it's

469
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: also tough because to do studies, like a lot of

470
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: times people may also smoke cigarettes, who smoke marijuana regularly, um,

471
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: and again with the illegality, it's just it's kind of

472
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: tough to get good data on this, and then chuck um.

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00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Pregnancy is another thing. You can kind of put pot

474
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: in um alcohol head to head with pregnancy, and apparently

475
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: neither one is particularly good, although the studies have are

476
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: much clearer on alcohol being bad for pregnant women to

477
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: drink than pot smoking. But there's again from the CDC,

478
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: there's a pretty famous statistic that three point three million

479
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: women are at risk in the US of exposing their

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Speaker 1: baby to alcohol. And what they're saying the point is

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00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: is that even if you um drink just in a

482
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: few first few weeks of being pregnant UM, it can

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Speaker 1: lead to what's called fetal alcohol spectrum disorders like cognitive, behavioral,

484
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: physical development disorders from drinking alcohol while you're pregnant, even

485
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: in the first few weeks. And so that three point

486
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: three million women number, that's like binders full of women.

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00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: It um It basically says that is the number of

488
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: women in the US the CD estimates have stopped using

489
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: birth control, but haven't stopped using haven't stopped drinking, So

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00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: those two things could conceivably cross over for a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks and which could lead to fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.

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00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: And they're saying like, despite you know what you hear that,

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00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: you know a glass of wine isn't isn't bad for you?

494
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Or every once a while or something while you're pregnant.

495
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Apparently the literature combined says no, there's really no safe

496
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: level of alcohol to drink while you're pregnant. Well, here's

497
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: the deal is they don't fully know. Like it did

498
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: some digging, because I know outside of the United States

499
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: there's is generally a more relaxed attitude, at least in

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00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: some countries. Um It says here that's uh. This is

501
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: from an NPR article UH two thousand fifteen study found

502
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: the alcohol consumption range from UH in Australia, New Zealand,

503
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Ireland and the UK. UH. Sometimes it was just like

504
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: a glass of champagne at a special event. Sometimes it

505
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: was a glass of wine, and UH once a night

506
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: or once a week in the third trimester. Sometimes it

507
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: was twenty ccs of golden grain injected into their neck um.

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00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: So this one group did uh Luisa Zukolo, he's a

509
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: health epidemiologist at Bristol, did a study recently and she

510
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: found it consuming up to thirty two grams of alcohol

511
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: per week two to three drinks was associated with a

512
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: ten percent increase risk of preterm birth. Only. Um, but

513
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: here's the deal is in America they basically say, listen,

514
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure the threshold of exactly when

515
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: and how and at what point in the pregnancy these

516
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: effects can occur, but we do know this, if you

517
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: don't drink, you have a chance of not having a

518
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: risk of fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. And why don't we

519
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: all just air on the side of caution and wait

520
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: for the nine months. Well, but that's like a ticklers

521
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: situation for us dudes to be in chuck because you know,

522
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a that's a real drag. Just just be like,

523
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: just don't drink for nine months. I'm gonna go have

524
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: a beer, but you don't drink, Okay, So husband's quit

525
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: drinking as a show of support or cut I think

526
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: that's that is definitely what should be done. Yeah, I

527
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: mean I think people should do what it works best

528
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: for them. But um, sure, but if your wife is

529
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: going to not if your wife or your sso is

530
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: not going to drink um while she's pregnant, then you

531
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: should not either. I hear your take on that, Okay,

532
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure. I'll say it again

533
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: at the end, I'll circle back up. It might take

534
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: his people should do it works best for them as

535
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: a couple. Um. And I will also say this, when

536
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: you adopt a kid, neither wanted, you have to stop drinking. Right.

537
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Problems solved, just throwing it out there. Um. With marijuana

538
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: during pregnancy, uh, they don't know for sure, um, exactly

539
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: how that can affect cognitive impairment, but they do think

540
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: that they have found some uh cognitive impairment results from

541
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: fetal exposure. Right. But again they don't have like thresholds. Um.

542
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard some doctors say we would rather

543
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: a mother smoke a little pot if she has a

544
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety or potentially depression during her pregnancy, then

545
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: hopping on pills or having a drink. But again, that's

546
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: not like some official doctor recommendation. It's very anecdotal. It's

547
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: like an anonymous comment on from a doctor who will

548
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: go on named so um. I also said that some

549
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: some studies have found um, they have linked low birth

550
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: weight to marijuana use, some pregnancy to So yeah, the

551
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: upshot is is, what did you say the couples should

552
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: do with what they think is best? Well, I mean

553
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: that's my role. Your rule is everyone follow my role? Yeah, right,

554
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: So there's there's also a big distinction between pot and

555
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: drinking chuck when it comes to crime, to like a

556
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: big one. This is probably dobably the clearest line of

557
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: all and kind of funny. Yeah, well not funny, but

558
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: the predicted result is a little amusing to me because

559
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: they did find in two thousand fourteen that the average

560
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: uh marijuana user, as far as partner violence intimate partner

561
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: violence goes UM is actually lower overall than people who

562
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: don't even drink or do drink. It's lower than everybody, right, right,

563
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: So like, if you're just ignore me, a normal who

564
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, you're like a ned Flanders type.

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00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Statistically speaking, in the first nine years of marriage, you're

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00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: more likely to commit violence against your partner than a

567
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: person who smokes pot regularly. It's hilarious. It is funny,

568
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: like you gotta look look at it a certain light

569
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: and just kind of divorce yourself from the partner violence things.

570
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean nothing about that. It's funny. I just picture

571
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: like the the stone person on the couch being like, well, no,

572
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: of course, I'm not gonna get mad and hit you, right,

573
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: why I ought to I forgot what I ought to do.

574
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: So on the other end of the spectrum, alcohol is

575
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: linked to a surprising an alarming amount of crime. The

576
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Partner of Justice says that alcohol is a factor in

577
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: fort of the violent crime in the United States, and

578
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: there was a survey of two million convicted offenders who

579
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: were currently in jail at the time of the survey.

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00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: Thirty seven percent said they were drinking at the time

581
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: they committed their crime. So that for partner violence too,

582
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: that's a bet it's way higher. Even it is that

583
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: was the highest. One was men drinking, but also women

584
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: drinking too, and they had a higher Those are believe

585
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: are the two highest incidences of intimate partner violence in

586
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the first nine years of marriage. If the show Cops

587
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: can anecdotally tell a tale is that of the home

588
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: visits where the husband and wife are both bombed and

589
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: pushing each other around. Is uh, that's kind of like

590
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: every every episode of Cops. Basically, it's definitely got that one.

591
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: I still watch that show me now, and then Emily

592
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: gets so upset at me. It's on all the time still,

593
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: it's like Golden Girls. Sometimes sometimes I'll catch a little

594
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: bit of one and just remember, like, oh, I used

595
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: to watch this in college and think it was a hoot,

596
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: and then part of me is like so depressing. It's

597
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: so depressing watching it that I can't even you know,

598
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: watch for five minutes. Man, I was. I tweeted the

599
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: other day that I used to think, um, humanity was

600
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: on the whole like generally decent and good, and then

601
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I started watching a lot of forensic Files. Yeah I

602
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: should watch that. I don't think you should. Man, it

603
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: really will kind of change the way you look at

604
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: people that people do some really bad stuff. Yeah, it's

605
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: really really depressing. He's kind of losing a measure of

606
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: faith in humanity because the way that the show presents

607
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: it too is still like a matter of fact, this happened,

608
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: and you know, this person picked up a rock and

609
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: beat there their friend over the head and then took

610
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: their five dollars. You know, stuff like that. Do you

611
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: want to take a break, We said, okay, let's take

612
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: a break and we'll we'll talk about driving while intoxicated

613
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: right after this. All right, we're back. Um, here's the

614
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: deal with driving drunken stoned? Um four. Sure you shouldn't

615
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: be doing either. We're not endorsing either one. But the

616
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: statistics and studies roundly say that when you were drinking,

617
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: you are way more likely to be like, I can

618
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: take this curve, it's eighty Uh, I'm fine to drive.

619
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: And people that are stone that are like, I need

620
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: to be super careful because I'm a little high right now,

621
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be extra careful and drive even

622
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: slower than I should. Yeah, Like that is what the

623
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: studies show. Yeah, the in the differences are so pronounced

624
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: that you can look at fatal accident statistics and see

625
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: that in some in some areas, the legalization of pot

626
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: has actually brought the number of traffic deaths down in

627
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: those states. And they think that the reason why is

628
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: because people are drinking less and smoking pot more, and

629
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: that when you smoke pot, you are something of a

630
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: You're not a safer driver necessarily, although some studies show

631
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: that you actually are safer than than people who aren't impaired.

632
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty rare. But you're a safer impaired driver,

633
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: for sure. But I think you've said something very very true.

634
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be driving stoned or drunk. It's just because

635
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: you're you're taking your own life in your hands, you're

636
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: also taking the lives of everybody else out on the

637
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: road on your hands, and shame on you for that. Yeah,

638
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: but I found it very interesting that some of these

639
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: studies like roundly say that a person um stoned is

640
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: way more likely to say, hey, you know what, I'm stoned,

641
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: uh and I need to be super careful, and a

642
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: person drinking will say, I'm fine, give me the keys,

643
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. So like

644
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: that's there's two different ways that being impaired and driving

645
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: affect you, whether you're stoned and whether you're um drunk.

646
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: And what tends to happen is if you're drunk and

647
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: you're you're driving, you typically act more impulsive, lee more aggressively,

648
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: more recklessly, which are three things that really go poorly

649
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: with driving. So you're going to tailgate more, you're gonna

650
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: pass people more, you're going to speed more. Um, you're

651
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: going to just be an aggressive driver, but also one

652
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: whose reaction times are not as good as they are

653
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: normally right when you're stoned. However, the general idea among

654
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: scientists who are just beginning to study the stuff over

655
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: the last few years is that you tend to overestimate

656
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: how impaired you are. Where you smoke some pot, you

657
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: feel stoned. Now you've gotten behind the wheeled car, and

658
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: you're a little freaked out, to be frank, You're worried

659
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: that you're going to get pulled over, that you're going

660
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: to cause a wreck, and so you're actually overcompensating for

661
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: your impairment because you're overestimating the amount of impairment you have,

662
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: and so you're going to drive slower, like much slower sometimes.

663
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: The one dude in the article said that the joke

664
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: is each and Chong driving twenty on the expressway. Yeah,

665
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: there's the study that just is hilarious to me that

666
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: that in driving simulators, these these people who were conducting

667
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: the study had to remind the stone drivers to keep

668
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: up to the speed limit, like they kept dropping below

669
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: the speed limit. They also tend to give more distance

670
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: between the next car and their car, even when compared

671
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: to nonimpaired drivers. Yeah, and the one thing, uh that

672
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: I found remarkable was that when they did the UM

673
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: simulated experiments, people under the influence of marijuana performed worse

674
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: than they did in the real driving experiment. So, in

675
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: other words, in the room with a simulator, they might

676
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: have goofed up some, but when they actually got behind

677
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: the wheel, they again turned on some switch that was like,

678
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: all right, gotta be super careful, right, So interesting. Yeah,

679
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: and and even more to the point, you they if

680
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: you take the individual things that driving were wires like coordination,

681
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: paying attention, reaction time. If you test those things individually

682
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: outside of the context of driving, people who smoke pot

683
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: routinely do worse UM on those things. But again, yeah,

684
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: when they get behind the wheel, it's like it's serious

685
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: time for for people who smoke pot. That So the

686
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: thing about that, though, is that the studies find that

687
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: that's true up to a certain point, that when you

688
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: pass a certain level of impairment, then all of a sudden,

689
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: your chances of being responsible for a fatal accident go

690
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: up dramatically. And what they found is that that that

691
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: point correlates possibly to um a a th HC content

692
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: in your blood of about five parts per billion or

693
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: five nano Graham's per leader, Yes, which is very it's

694
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: a very controversial number. It's a controversial amount well, and

695
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: it's um at this point, like a breathalyzer. We did

696
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: a show on breathalyzers. It was Boy, that was a

697
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: tough one. Yeah, I remember how complicated those things are. Yeah,

698
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: that was very technical and tough. But there's like a

699
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: magical crystal involved in them. But with a breathalyzer, like

700
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: you can tell when someone is literally drunk at that moment.

701
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Um With with marijuana, you're doing blood and urine tests

702
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: that shows that you have marijuana in your system. If

703
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: you are a heavy marijuana user, you could be stone

704
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: cold sober and show marijuana in your system. So they

705
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: don't really have a full proof way of testing like

706
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: pulling someone off the street but from behind the wheel

707
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: of a car and seeing if they were stoned at

708
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: that moment. So the and that's one of the reasons

709
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: why some states are starting to adopt that five parts

710
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: per billion threshold because apparently studies find that if you're

711
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: a regular smoker and you've got a bunch of THHC

712
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: in your body that's accumulated, but you haven't smoked, we

713
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: lee you're not gonna be over five parts per billion, okay.

714
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: And then the other one is that that that statistic

715
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: that says that your chances of being in a fatal

716
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: crash increased dramatically at five over five parts per billion.

717
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: So that's why some states are adopting it, but some

718
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: other studies, especially once out of Europe, are like, WHOA,

719
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: that is way too high a limit. It should be

720
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: more like one part per billion um. I think they're

721
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: trying to land on the right number. They definitely are.

722
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I think Sweden is adopting a one part per billion

723
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: um limit, and they're apparently famous for being really strict

724
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: about impaired driving, so they kind of set the trend

725
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: on the one end of the spectrum, whereas the US

726
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of edges towards the other end of the spectrum.

727
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: Like with blood alcohol content, I think the legal limit

728
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: in most states is point oh eight percent, which is

729
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: about I think for like a hundred and eighty pound man,

730
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: that like three or four drinks in an hour, and

731
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean three or four drinks in an hour and

732
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: getting behind a car that is a lot that you're

733
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: not driving very well. It's like an arbitrarily high number

734
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: if you really think about it. Part of the other

735
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: problem too with testing for whether somebody is impaired UM

736
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: by pot or reach some sort of some limit or threshold,

737
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: is that there's no UM there's no real reliable way

738
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: for testing it on the side of the road, including

739
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: that roadside UM field sobriety test. They make you stand

740
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: on one foot and make you um walk, heal the

741
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: toe and then turn around. And I think there's a

742
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: third part to it too, and that's actually really good

743
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: at catching drunk people. It catches like percent of people

744
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: who are drunk at the time, but it only catches

745
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: like thirty percent of people who are stoned. So the

746
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: cops are starting to come up against this, these new

747
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: laws where you're allowed to smoke pot, but how much

748
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: is too much to get behind the wheel of a car,

749
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: And there's a real guidance and they don't really have

750
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: any way of testing. And again, like you said, in

751
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: ten years, all of this will be resolved. But UM

752
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: for the time being. It's kind of like the Wild

753
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: West as far as driving while impaired by pot legislation

754
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: is concerned. Yeah. I got pulled over coming home from

755
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: college to Atlanta one time. Uh, only time I've ever

756
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: had like a field sobriety test done on me, and

757
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: he flat out asked me, He's like, Mr Bryant, have

758
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: you been smoking marijuana? After he put me through it,

759
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: because he did the thing where you follow the finger

760
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: with your eyeballs. Yeah, that's the third part. And I

761
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: think it's supposed I'm not sure what's supposed to happen,

762
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: like your eyeball twitches or something once it reaches the edge.

763
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it bounces up and down while it's going

764
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: left or right. Okay, well I'm not sure. All I

765
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: know is he told me, you know, keep your head

766
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: forward and follow with your eyes. And I turned my

767
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: head and followed his finger, and I was just I

768
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: was nothing. I was sober as a judge, and I

769
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: was just nervous because I've never been pulled over on

770
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: the side of the road and told to walk a line.

771
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: And he finally just asked me, I was like, no,

772
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: like nineteen, I was just scared yea, And eventually he

773
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: was like, all right, getting your VW beetle and drive home.

774
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: Did you did you take the tack of um crying

775
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: to get out of the ticket? No, I cried on

776
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: the inside, okay, which you know I don't think you noticed.

777
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: This is interesting that I've never you know, that's the

778
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: only time in my life I've ever been pulled over

779
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: and given that test. And it was even if you're sober,

780
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: it's a little nerve wracking, sure, yeah it was. It's

781
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: it's like that white coat syndrome where your blood pressure

782
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: goes up at the doctor's office because you're anxious for

783
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: being at the doctor's office. I know, I remember going

784
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: like in my brain, he alto he al too right.

785
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, this this is no problem.

786
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: My balance is never a good officer when of that

787
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: ever works or asofer, it's always fun to throw that in,

788
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: but be totally sober. Just go ahead and sit in

789
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the back of that police car after one. Has you

790
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: got anything else? No, I mean we should point out that,

791
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, another a factor with drinking and driving is

792
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, you drink at a bar a lot of times,

793
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: whereas they think predominantly if you're smoking pot, you're probably

794
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: in your home, so you're not driving. Um. There are

795
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: all sorts of other factors that that go into these big,

796
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: big statistical studies. But we're we're just at the the

797
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: eve weird mere babies as a country when it comes

798
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: to marijuana legislation and study. Yeah, be interested to see

799
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: where it goes. I'll see in ten years. Yeah, I'll

800
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: see intent man. Okay, Well, in the meantime, Uh, you

801
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: can look up well, there's not this article on house

802
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: to works. You can just look at pop versus alcohol

803
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: and it'll bring up a lot of great stuff. We

804
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: worked off of some stuff from Popular Science, from Slate,

805
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: from actually there's a house stuff works article now I

806
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: think about it, Live Science, High Times. Some good resources

807
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: out there. Just hit them up Willie Nelson dot com. Yeah. Uh.

808
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: And in the meantime, since Chuck said Willie Nelson, it's

809
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: time for listener mail. Um, this is overlap of podcasts.

810
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: I don't think i've read this one yet. Hey guys,

811
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: my name is Neil. I enjoy listening to stuff you

812
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: should know and stuff you missed in history class, and

813
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: roller skating and long walks on the beach. Sometimes I've

814
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: heard the same subject get Daylight on both of your programs,

815
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: though very recently, you guys did a Mary Celeste episode,

816
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: and if I recall, Holly and Tracey did the same

817
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: story not too long ago. UM Josh mentioned a chuck

818
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: about the woman who painted miniature crime scenes, and so

819
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: did they. My question is whether or not we ever

820
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: swapped notes on subjects a cross reference eats cross reference

821
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: each other's work. UM, where there might be overlap, it

822
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: could be nice even set up different situations where each

823
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: podcast looks at the same subject to a different angle. Anyway,

824
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: it might be a good thing to introduce to the

825
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: other podcasts to someone who's not listening to it. Keep

826
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: up the good work. That from Neil in Washington, d C. Neil,

827
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: I think we've answered this years ago, but we well,

828
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: I was about to say, we try not to overlap,

829
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: but no one really pays much attention internally in it.

830
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: It just happens sometimes. And the only time it's ever

831
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: been like shoot is when it's literally within like a

832
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: few weeks of each other. Then we might have wished

833
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: we would have timed it differently, But we always feel

834
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: like all the different shows bring different things to the table,

835
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: and so it's really not a big deal. But we

836
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: definitely don't check with each other or share notes or anything.

837
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: We're all on our own little bubbles. Yeah. But also,

838
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if we are aware that one of the

839
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: other podcasts has already done something like that doesn't preclude

840
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: us from doing it ourselves, and we would probably mention

841
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: it if we were aware of it, like go check

842
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: out their version of it two, because it's always so

843
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: different enough that it's usually worth listening to both, you know,

844
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: I agreed. Okay, Well, if you want to get in

845
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: touch of this, you can tweet to us. There's an

846
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: official Stuff you Should Know one called s Y s

847
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: K podcast. I've got my own called josh um Clark.

848
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: I also have a website called are You Serious Clark

849
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: dot com. Uh Chuck is on Facebook at Charles W.

850
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,600
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