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Speaker 1: On today's episode a Ticket to the Draft Podcast with

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Speaker 1: a combine right around the corner, we look at wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: What traits do you look for in a wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: We talk that extensively and commanders who could they possibly

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Speaker 1: pair with?

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Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 1: We got a top fifteen wide receiver breakdown and you

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Speaker 1: might be surprised who number one is. But we also

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Speaker 1: have a really heated debate about the number overall pick

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Speaker 1: and what the value is there at cornerback and wide

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Speaker 1: receiver hand hit. That all starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Ticket the Draft Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with just the guy Jason, and

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Speaker 1: we so appreciate you guys listening each and every week.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the comments you're bringing. We're trying to decide

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Speaker 1: what position, what position group, we're going to do next.

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Speaker 1: We're doing wide receivers today, We're thinking about doing defensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a one position group with a ton

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Speaker 1: of depth. Can we talk about that. That's going to

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Speaker 1: come after we do our combine coverage next week, which

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Speaker 1: is we're going to do a podcast every day were

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Speaker 1: out in Indianapolis. We're going to do, you know, cover

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Speaker 1: the drills for the first day, second day, third day,

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Speaker 1: fourth day, all the way through Sunday where they're real

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Speaker 1: cycles here doing draft evaluation. But after that we want

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Speaker 1: to know which position you guys want to see, so

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Speaker 1: please make sure you leave a comment. And today, like

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned, we are doing wide receivers and this

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Speaker 1: is one that I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I feel like everyone kind of has identified as a

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Speaker 1: need or a potential need for the commanders. So I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited to delve into this position group. Jason, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty deep, huh.

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Speaker 2: I mean it feels deep.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the thing about receivers is

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Speaker 1: every year, you know, it was like the peak's not

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Speaker 1: as higher, it's not as good.

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Speaker 2: But I do think you can find.

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Speaker 1: Really good ballplayers at this position group, specifically because of

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Speaker 1: how college offenses look.

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Speaker 2: There's just so many wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Well compared to last year, Like I think it's hard

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Speaker 3: to say, Like, I think it's a hard comparison because

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Speaker 3: the top end of the wide receiver from last year.

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Speaker 4: Was like elite.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as far as draft.

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Speaker 3: Prospects coming out of there, like a quarterback position. So,

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Speaker 3: but what I mean by like this is deep is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of good football players

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Speaker 3: here that could be later round guys that are going

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Speaker 3: to be contributors. Yeah, And last year, to me, last year,

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Speaker 3: I think it was like you get into after the

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Speaker 3: like those guys can kind of get bundled up. But

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Speaker 3: we're going to do top fifty, your top fifteen today,

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Speaker 3: and I think all these guys could be contributors. Now

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean they're going to be number ones, right,

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Speaker 3: but I think they're going to be contributors on teams.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good distinction because you're really kind

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Speaker 1: And it's funny how expectations lead to different things. Right,

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Speaker 3: And I also think that figuring out what the wide

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Speaker 1: because it's going to be harder to find one later.

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Speaker 3: to receiver and what you like to say being mitigating risk.

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Speaker 3: So last year, for example, there were so many teams

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Speaker 3: is that because it's wide receiver and these guys are

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Speaker 3: Like last year we had six quarterbacks go and that

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Speaker 3: pushes everything down, So you're getting wide receivers like a

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Speaker 3: to be a fun little game that we do. All Right,

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Speaker 3: before we get going, I want to do real quickly

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Speaker 3: So the first thing is when you talk about like

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Speaker 2: But then there's stems off of that, And so stems.

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Speaker 1: off of a different stem, right off of a different stem.

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Speaker 1: So those are some things that I think about when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it shows Terry's understanding of coverage

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Speaker 3: So all right, well, we're going to quickly go through

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Speaker 3: drift back off the line a little bit is because

438
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 3: that's giving that's taking away space between you and the

439
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760
Speaker 3: defender to get his hand in there. So good body

440
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 3: control means I don't have to look where I'm going.

441
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 3: I can run in a nice straight line or come

442
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,439
Speaker 3: right back to the ball, keeping that distance between that

443
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,400
Speaker 3: I've created between me and the defender.

444
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, as you were seeing as we're

445
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,920
Speaker 1: talking through this, body control is interesting because it's actually

446
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 1: how you track the football.

447
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 2: It's how you position your body.

448
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 1: It's your ability to stay on rhythm and on cadence

449
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: with your stride as you're running. So there's a lot

450
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 1: of things that go into that catch all term of

451
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: good body control, for sure.

452
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 3: And when you have all of these traits, you get

453
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 3: like the Julio Jones and the Calvin Johnson's right, they

454
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 3: have most of these things. Oh yeah, So when you're

455
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 3: looking for a wide receiver, everyone's obviously looking for the

456
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 3: next great name like those guys, but you only have

457
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 3: those guys come once in a generation or so. So

458
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 3: what are you looking for in a receiver, especially one

459
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 3: that may be like, hey, a third round a fourth

460
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 3: round for this guy? Like what is a trait logan

461
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 3: Paulson's looking for?

462
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: So I think the thing that totally I used to

463
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,879
Speaker 1: look for just raw horsepower. I want big, fast, physical dudes,

464
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 1: but they tend to lack that kind of short area

465
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 1: of quickness, right, And so what you find is that

466
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: you get a lot of guys that honestly look like

467
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 1: people in this draft class that are kind of live,

468
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: easy mover kind of basketball guys that are maybe a

469
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 1: little bit lighter, you know, like if they're six', four

470
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: they're two zero five instead of two, Twenty, Right they've

471
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 1: just got a little bit different kind of body, shape

472
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 1: a little, slender and it allows them to control their

473
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 1: body mass. Better and so, like, obviously Like i'm looking

474
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: for Your Julio, jones is Your Calvin johnson's your or you,

475
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: know insert.

476
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 2: Your freak athlete.

477
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 1: Here BUT i do think They're like WHEN i started

478
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: looking at this is really what. Changed WHEN i started

479
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: looking at How Kyle shanahan drafts wide. Receivers he drafts.

480
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 1: Receivers he doesn't draft athletes. Necessarily he drafts people that

481
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: understand the, releases the, stems the ability to sink your,

482
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: hips the ability to get in and out of. Cuts

483
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: like that's a skill, set, Right and so like they

484
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,719
Speaker 1: Draft Ricky piarsaw in the first round last year Of San,

485
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 1: francisco AND i think we talked about at The Scena,

486
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 1: bowl like he is A San francisco type player because

487
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: he does all of those things, well the sinking of the,

488
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: hips the get out of. Cuts he tracks the football,

489
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: well he's got great body, control, Right and if you

490
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: go through all the receivers they've drafted in recent, history

491
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: they all kind of to a certain, extent resemble that.

492
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: Model AND i thought to, myself, like that's the way

493
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: to do. It you get dudes that are good at the, craft,

494
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: right and then if you find a, freak, yeah we're

495
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna let you in, too because you're a freaky. Dude

496
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: but LIKE i Think that's kind of Where i'm at

497
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: with my receiver evaluation at this point in my career is,

498
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 1: like can you get? Open do you know how to

499
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 1: get open and you catch and track the? Football if you,

500
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: can we can find a role for you in THE.

501
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: Nfl AND i think a great example that here for

502
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: The commanders is like a lam Of a's A Kias

503
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: like he does all those things well and he's played

504
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: in THE nfl for going on seven years, now six.

505
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: Years like there's a reason that that works even though

506
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: he's an undrafted free.

507
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: Agent.

508
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely all, right let's get into your top. Fifteen it's. Time,

509
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah so, yeah number, fifteen let's go. Fifteen Tory holten

510
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: From Colorado. State he's sixty. THREE i think he weighed

511
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: like he weighs he hasn't weighed in yet. Anywhere is

512
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: one eighty. Seven he's not A Senior, bowl not a.

513
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: Shrine guy From Colorado. State really monstrous twenty twenty three,

514
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: season really. Monstrous and to, me this, guy and he

515
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 3: has a knee injury in twenty twenty four that kind

516
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: of sets him back a little. Bit but to, me

517
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: this guy embodies to me what it means to play a,

518
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 3: receiver like kind of he's got the speed, cut he's

519
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 3: got the he can run the, comeback he can sink his,

520
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: hips he can track the deep ball across the middle

521
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: of the. Field he's like he you, know like kind

522
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: of that gauntlet shallow. Cross the ball can be. Anywhere

523
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 3: he's not going to lose a, Step he's not going

524
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: to deviate from his. Line he really sees the football

525
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: at a very high. Level and just a receivers, receiver taller.

526
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: GUY i think he could play. Outside he could be a,

527
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: zero AN, x probably A, z you, know like long

528
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: term in his, career but a guy THAT i, think you,

529
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: know everyone says all these later on guys are your

530
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: THIRD i think really he projects better to like a,

531
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: two like a low end two in his first couple of.

532
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: Years that can, develop especially coming off the. Injury worry

533
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: a little bit about the top.

534
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: End horsepower, again like you, KNOW i want receivers that

535
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: can catch football and to all that, stuff but you

536
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: need to have like a minimum, threshold like which is

537
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: why you're on the. Forties why do your vertical, jump

538
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: why do your broad? Jump SO i don't know if

539
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 1: he's going to test that he's been invited to the.

540
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: COMBINE i don't know if he's going to test at the,

541
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: combine but the receiver stuff is. Excellent, Again Little tall

542
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: has a hard time with some of the like the

543
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: elite short area quickness, stuff but he's got the kind

544
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: of feel for the route running THAT i love to

545
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: see from a guy from this, guy AND i think

546
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: he'd be going much higher if he was healthy in

547
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

548
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: Four is that your biggest concern with, him his health

549
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: or is? It it's the speed and the.

550
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Health so it's just you want to make sure that

551
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: he can threaten you, deep, right he can threat you can,

552
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: push you can push you down the field a little.

553
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: Bit AND i think that's just that's one subtle, concern,

554
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: Right it's because he shows, up he, hits he catches a,

555
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: post he catches a, go he can work the short

556
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: area kind of that bang eight, post that tight post

557
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: off of a three step. Footwork so he does a

558
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: lot of stuff down the. Field but you, know he's

559
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: playing At colorada state level of competition isn't always. There

560
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: so just for my own, edification Like i'm not a,

561
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 1: TEAM i don't have THE gps day to know how

562
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: fast he's actually. RUNNING i just want to see, Him

563
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: like if he runs a four or, Five i'm happy with,

564
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: it as long as it's not like a four to

565
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: seven or a high four, Six like we're going to be,

566
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: okay all.

567
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: Right the next guy is one of two out Of Iowa.

568
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: State so your first one at fourteen Is Jalen.

569
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 2: NOLE i really Like jalen no like a.

570
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Lot LIKE i like him a, lot and so it's

571
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: really telling to me that he's a receiver THAT i like.

572
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: WATCHING i think he's going to be at excellent. Pro

573
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: and he's down here in like the. Fourteens he's a smaller.

574
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: Guy he's like five to, eleven good build though he's

575
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: like two hundred pounds on hundred ninety five, pounds like big.

576
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Guy really all those kind of short area things that

577
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: you're looking for from a guy, here this guy reminds

578
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: me a lot Of, santanamas like a.

579
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 2: Lot he's got this great short area, burst great short.

580
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Area, deceleration has good top end, speed, right but his

581
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: lack of, length like size arm, length makes it difficult

582
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: for me to see him projecting as a down the

583
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: field type. Weapon and when you watch the reps at

584
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: The Senior. Bowl you see him do an excellent job

585
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: competing as an outside. Guy But i'm like his home

586
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: his best use is probably in that kind of slot

587
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: motion f. Guy, right and, again the short area quickness is.

588
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: EXCELLENT i love the body. TYPE i love that he's

589
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: a little bit taller than Like rascheppo for, example a

590
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: little bit longer Than, rochepo AND i think accelerates and

591
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: has a better burst Than. Rachepel LIKE i expect this

592
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: dude to run like a four to three four to,

593
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: three like high four to, three low four fours and

594
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: crush all the movement stuff on the. Field so he's

595
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: a guy that AND i think he catches the football.

596
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: Well he's.

597
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: Competitive and again he's the fourteenth guy in the, list

598
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: AND i think he could come in here In. WASHINGTON

599
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: i don't know if he's going to be your true,

600
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: too but he's a guy that you, say damn, like

601
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: he's going to catch a lot he. Can he's worth

602
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: game planning four because of the athletic movement.

603
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Skills.

604
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: Right it's.

605
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: FUNNY i actually used a sports car like analogy earlier

606
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: AND i wrote down for him that he has a

607
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: sports car like burst off the. Line just, very very,

608
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: quick and he has a surprising catch radius for his.

609
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: Size like you, said he's a smaller dude at five,

610
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: eleven but he was catching some bad throws that weren't

611
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: particularly close that you would expect from a guy with

612
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: a long. Wingspan BUT i guess it's the body control

613
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: that he has he's able to get. It the one

614
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: THING i looked up for him is that he has

615
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: a history with.

616
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: DROPS i think he's.

617
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: IMPROVEMENT i think a lot of these.

618
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: GUYS i think a lot of these guys as we go,

619
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: through will have an issue with. Drops and that's another

620
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: thing is you do a great job with looking this.

621
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: Up but like WHEN i had access to, it we've

622
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: changed services for our film. Recently so WHEN i had

623
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: access to the original, service you could sort by, DROPS

624
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: i could short by, TARGETS i could short.

625
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: But you know WHAT i.

626
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: Mean and so you could just go through and see and.

627
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: Watch and NOW i actually have to watch full games

628
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: to get a feel for how they're tracking the.

629
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: Football and we get our cut up.

630
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: Work now from, YouTube and those guys who do those

631
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: cutups are great.

632
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Jobs BUT i think he's got decent.

633
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: Hands BUT i do think he's got smallish, hands smallish,

634
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: hands kind of smallish, builds so some of that contested

635
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: catchwork is going to be a little. Tough he reminds

636
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: a little bit Of Christian. Kirk if you want like

637
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: a more or less lofty, comparison then. Sintentamos BUT i

638
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: think that's a great pull by.

639
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: You oh, well ALL i did was look up the

640
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: stats BECAUSE i SAW i dropped a couple every now and,

641
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: then AND i was, like, oh but because with wide,

642
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: receivers who first and foremost want them to catch the.

643
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: Ball but his athletic ability is. Undeniable, definitely he shows up. There,

644
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: okay the one for you is number.

645
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: Thirteen he got alex Anam? Moore is that you said

646
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: that from? Stink It's Ana.

647
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Mayor that's, Right, ELICK i think Is Eleck Annil.

648
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: Mayor you're, Right Anna mayor is the last.

649
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: Name i'm, SORRY i kind of left you out there

650
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: for the.

651
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: Wolves that's, right that's.

652
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: Right it's been a long day the BUT i so

653
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: he Goes stanford player six two to, ten two. Fifteen

654
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: we haven't exact way because he hasn't doe any the games,

655
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: Yet shrine Or Senior, bowl but he will get the.

656
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Combine HE'S i think a lot of people are billing

657
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: him as your TRUE x wide, receiver kind of that body.

658
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Type he does have good vertical, burst he does have good,

659
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: Size he's pretty, physical he's urgent.

660
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: In the run.

661
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: GAME i don't love him Like that's why he's at

662
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: thirteen for. ME i think a lot of people would

663
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: have him in their top. Ten and the REASON i

664
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: don't love him IS i don't see the elite. BURST

665
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: i don't see the elite. ACCELERATION i don't see the elite.

666
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: Deceleration and he is very stiff in his. Back it's

667
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: hard for him to kind of really be super sudden

668
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: in the short. Area SO i just See i've seen

669
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: guys like that before that have been. Successful but most

670
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: of the guys That i've seen with that kind of

671
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: athletic profile get absolutely stuck at the line of scrimmage

672
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: at the next level because they're just guys that are

673
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: a little bit more like all the physical traits that

674
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: let him be successful At. Stanford the dbs here are, bigger, shannger,

675
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: faster so those big guys sometimes get eaten up a little.

676
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: Bit All, Right i'm going to redo WHAT i wrote let's,

677
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: see all, Right SO i WROTE i like.

678
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: This guy a. Lot.

679
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, right he's got AN nfl. Frame it looks like,

680
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 3: right he. Does he looks slippery to me for his, size,

681
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: right somehow he's able to put his body in tough.

682
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: Places he's a big yes. Guy, yeah, Excellent AND.

683
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: I think he has nice sharp cuts with strong. Hands

684
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: AND i don't think he's ever out of a play

685
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: because he has a high motor and works hard to get. Open,

686
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: however he's pretty slow getting off the line and has

687
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: kind of a lanky run style that lets guys kind

688
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: of be all over.

689
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: Him so that's my.

690
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Concern AND i wrote down if he can work on

691
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: getting off the line.

692
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: A good, coach WHICH i think he. CAN i think he, can.

693
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: Then you've got a guy here with the motor the

694
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: frame to be.

695
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: Something.

696
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i don't disagree with anything you. SAID i

697
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: like you.

698
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Said the acceleration stuff is a little bit. Testy the

699
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: contested catch, stuff to, me shows up a lot like

700
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: when you're watching a receiver and they're in contested catch

701
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: situations all the. Time it's kind of, like are you

702
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: going to be able to separate and make these physical

703
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: contested catches at the next. Level it's the same, thing

704
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: like criticism that people have Against terry That i've had

705
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Against terry is he's a great contested catch guy and

706
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: he's made it work at the next. Level but most

707
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: contested catch guys Like Devontae parker From, miami they kind

708
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: of fizzle out because they just can't keep doing. It

709
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: and so, like what is his? Runway what is his? Trajectory,

710
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: again he's on my. List SO i like him better

711
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: than some.

712
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Other guys that are big body receivers BECAUSE.

713
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: I think, again the, competitiveness he tracks the football relatively. Well,

714
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: again the stiffness is something that really really like it

715
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: is a really big concern for. Me so for, him

716
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: like if we watch him in the drill work at

717
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: the and he looks, great he moves around, great Like

718
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: i'm Gonna i'm gonna bump him. Up i'll tell you

719
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: that right. Now but like as of right, now it's

720
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: something That i'm a little, Like i'm not sure about.

721
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: THIS I and, again in terms of mitigating, risk like

722
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: there's other guys That i'm NOT i don't have that

723
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: concern with. That i'm more excited about That i've ahead of.

724
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: Him all, Right and a guy THAT i know you're

725
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: excited about is your number. TWELVE i want you to

726
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: talk to me about, him because he texted me about

727
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: him and he, said why are we not looking at this? Guy,

728
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: yeah so talk to me about.

729
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Him So isaiah Ne OR i think is his, name From.

730
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Nebraska he's six three and three. Quarters he measured at

731
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: The Shrine. Bowl he has thirty four inch, arms so

732
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a. Freak he's two hundred and twenty two, pounds

733
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: so he's. Big he's, strong he's. Fast he had the

734
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: FASTEST gps time for any receiver at The Shrine bowl

735
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty point seven miles, prior which is pretty.

736
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: Fast and so you watch this film In, nebraska it's

737
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: a little all over the, place but the offense In

738
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: nebraska is all over the. Place but the thing THAT

739
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: i started doing is just watching him run off on run.

740
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: Place and work.

741
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Releases his ability to we talk about the tightness and the,

742
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Stiffness his ability to sink his hips and get to

743
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: a square stance off of a two point, release get

744
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: to a square, stance burst vertically and just straight run

745
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: by like fast corners is. Incredible so THEN i thought,

746
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: ill let me do a little bit more digging on.

747
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: This SO i went and watched The Shrine bowl, footage

748
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: and The Shrine bowl footage is Like Senior bowl. Footage

749
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: it's one on ones on the second, day like he was.

750
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Uncoverable he looks like a physical. Freak and it's not

751
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: just him running by. People it's his, acceleration it's his.

752
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Deceleration it's his ability to sink and get into these,

753
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: good advantageous like positions with his body where you're dropping

754
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: your pads and getting out of. Stuff guys try to jam.

755
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Him he's got thirty four inch. Arms he kind of

756
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: brushes you. Off SO i just started looking at that

757
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: in conjunction with the limited film that there is of,

758
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: him how he tracks the ball in the, Air AND i,

759
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: thought this, guy to, Me i'm trying to think about,

760
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: this to put the to catch this in the best way.

761
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Possible he's got the best kind of physical frame to

762
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: be a TRUE. X and it's not just the, frame

763
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: it's also the movement. Skills SO i went back and

764
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: watched he transferred From wyoming To. Nebraska so Went basch

765
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: and watched him At. Wyoming and he can, run he's,

766
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: big he tracks the football extremely. Well the target share

767
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: was way down At nebraska because the quarterback's.

768
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: Tough they run the ball a. Lot it's a little

769
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: bit of a. Mess you can.

770
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Tell it's not super detail from a coaching, Standpoint BUT

771
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: i had him his high at five at one, point

772
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: WHICH i texted you that, too AND i just was,

773
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: like why did he drop? Down so because of advice

774
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: That i've given you in the, past where it's like

775
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: you're this is about mitigating. Risks so even though everything

776
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: from a movement, STANDPOINT i really like the ability to

777
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: come to, balance to sink his hips to like he

778
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: ran this route at The Senior bowl where he runs

779
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: a slant, return and for a dude who's six's four

780
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: to run it the way he run it, it it

781
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: just gets me, like oh my, God like this guy

782
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: like that looks, like you, Know Austin, eckler not Not Austin,

783
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: eckler you Know Wes welker running a return. Route but

784
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: this dude's sixty five or sixty four two twenty. Two

785
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: AND i was just, like he's got thirty four inch.

786
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: Arms LIKE i just kept coming back to. This he

787
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: ran like a stutter go and like walked off the

788
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: screen on this. Guy but that's all projection because he

789
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: hasn't done it Since, wyoming which is a small school

790
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: right and At nebraska is a little bit of a.

791
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Mess SO i to, me this is a like if

792
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: if this is a war room right, now you're THE,

793
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Gm i'm the. Scout i'm, like if he gets with

794
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: the right, dude this guy could be something. SPECIAL i

795
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: genuinely believe. That but that's a big if because not

796
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be willing to put the, time energy and

797
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: effort into maximizing what this guy.

798
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Does, YEAH i saw him a little differently than, you

799
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: But i'm just a. Guy so My jesse, GUY i

800
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: saw that like once he had the, ball not super

801
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: creative as a, runner just kind of ran, straight Couldn't.

802
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: Jude guys just run.

803
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: Right into people get, tackled WHICH i want a guy

804
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: that eat no matter their. Size he catches the, ball

805
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna get a little yak out of. Them and

806
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: THEN i did, think like you, said he's able to

807
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 3: create that separation with the, Quickness BUT i didn't see

808
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: the speed that you're talking, about even that showed up

809
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: in The shrine. BALL i would say that even like

810
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: he could get separation with his sudden, quickness but that

811
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: gap closed pretty darn.

812
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: Quick AND i think that's a great. Point AND i

813
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: think this also is indicative of what you were. Watching

814
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: so like IF i just watched because we have the

815
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: cutup that we get on, YouTube that's in that whatever

816
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: That google doc for, years and you watch, that AND

817
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: i remember the first pass of, him Because i've watched

818
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys twice or three or four,

819
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: TIMES i was, like this guy's not, Good LIKE i

820
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: had that. THOUGHT i had literally like this guy, sucks

821
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: was my initial. Thought but THEN i started Watching nebraska

822
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: tape right AND i had just gone through every single big,

823
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: receiver like watching all twenty, two and So i'm SO

824
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: i just compared him to the guy From colorado at number.

825
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: FOURTEEN i forget his last. Name but Then i'd watched

826
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: a guy From kansas and watched the guy From, memphis

827
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: AND i was, like oh my, gosh they're not on this.

828
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: List they're all just just guys at this.

829
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Point they're in the. Ether we're all good. Players and

830
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: THEN i come to this guy AND i watch him.

831
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Again it's a run. Play it's man and man coverage

832
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: and him absolutely blow by a receiver AND i was,

833
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: like UH, dB and he runs a slant and basically

834
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: uses his long arms and breaks across the, middle AND

835
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: i was like. Okay and so THEN i went AND

836
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: i was, like, YEAH i know he was at The Shrine.

837
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Bowl let me go look at. That AND i was

838
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: blown away even further by. THAT i was, like let

839
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: me go back and watch the wyoming. Stuff and then

840
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: all of that kind of laid the foundation for this

841
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: me putting him in the top, twelve because, again IF

842
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: i would have watched the first, thing LIKE i, said

843
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: on the first, PASS i literally the words and the

844
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: notes THAT.

845
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: I wrote was he. SUCKS i wrote that.

846
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: Down but then the more you, watch you're just, like

847
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the yards after catch, thing, like because

848
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: of his big body and his like movement scales away tracks.

849
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i don't expect him to be great after the,

850
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: catch but in terms of creating, separation the, deceleration, acceleration

851
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: like it's and maybe it's BECAUSE i, coach But i'm,

852
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: LIKE i want to coach. HIM i want that because

853
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: there's certain things that you can't, teach and he's got

854
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: a lot of. Them now he's a silly goose because

855
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: they were doing a red zone period and he ran

856
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: a deep dig in the back of the end zone

857
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: and he steps out of bounds for the, catch you

858
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Mean so, like there's a lot of

859
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: things that you got to work, on but in terms

860
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: of physical.

861
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Profile, yeah, length, height, Speed, oh it's all. There and so.

862
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: Like that's maybe that's where the optimistic side of me comes,

863
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: out because, again not overly productive At.

864
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: Nebraska but But i'm excited to go back and rewatch

865
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: it BECAUSE i only watched them.

866
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: Once, yeah, right and something that.

867
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: Happens a lot when we do, this and, Well i'll

868
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: speak for myself WHEN i watch like all these guys

869
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: and my goal is to get to three hundred guys this,

870
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: year which is a. Lot but when you do, That

871
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: i'm watching some of these guys once for maybe thirty

872
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: minutes at the most for, them and ONCE i create

873
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: a thought like that's going to kind of stick, there

874
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: and everything THAT i watch, AFTERWARDS i have to be

875
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: very cautious of having confirmation bias because and it could

876
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: you told me this actually today you were like you

877
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: could watch a game and it's his bad game of

878
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: all the games he had in. College that's his worst

879
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: game and now it's stuck with. You he's not a good.

880
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: Player And i've DONE i do that same, thing so

881
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: think about it IF i had, Not, LIKE i just

882
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: was happy to be going through the big. Receiver so

883
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: a big receiver for me is anybody over six to.

884
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: TWO i was just going through all the big. Receivers

885
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: and THEN i was Just i'd already watched. HIM i

886
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: had my note in. THERE i was, like let me

887
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: just watch him one more. Time AND i was watching

888
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: all twenty, two not the, cutups AND i was, like

889
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: the movement skills are top, shelf you, know and again

890
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: like if the interview is, terrible all those different, things

891
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: LIKE i need a high character guy for this because it's.

892
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: DEVELOPMENTAL i need a trust he's going to. Develop but

893
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the physical stuff to me was all.

894
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: There, Yeah And i'm excited to go back and watch

895
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: him because he. Does LIKE i wrote down in, here

896
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: his ability to catch in traffic is like a plus plus,

897
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Yea like he will attack the, ball he doesn't care

898
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: that their arms all over. Him he's, big, long he's, quick, smooth, runners,

899
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: strong you have all those.

900
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Things it's a projection for.

901
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Sure So i'm willing to acknowledge That i'm willing to

902
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: acknowledge you're not going to hear about him most other

903
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: places because he has such a projection but the, frame

904
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: the rot running, nuance and, again hopefully he's not a

905
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: silly goose all the, time but he does do some

906
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: silly goose things.

907
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes and we're not trying to find like we're not

908
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: just talking Like that's one of the THINGS i love

909
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: about you and our podcast is that we're not just

910
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: going to talk about the top, guys like this isn't

911
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: the top five wide receivers that are going to be

912
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 3: gone by halfway through the second, Round like this guy

913
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: could be there later you're in and it's, like now

914
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: we've talked about, him.

915
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: You know a little bit about.

916
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Him if you listen to this podcast and you can

917
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: get excited for a guy that, like as you were,

918
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: saying like your risk a version in, draft like some

919
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: team is going to see all these traits that you

920
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: see and the value at where they get those. TRAITS i,

921
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: mean maybe you got something real special in a later.

922
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: Round everyone's looking for, that right the univers later around

923
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: The terry, mclaurins everyone's looking for that all, right so

924
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 3: let's move on to number.

925
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: Eleven, yeah so these next, three four or five guys

926
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: ARE i, think really cool guys to talk. About the

927
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: number eleven from me Is Kyle williams From Washington, state

928
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: trying to remember is?

929
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: Exact? TITWAIGHT i think it's five to ELEVEN.

930
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: I have that could have been updated THOUGH i know

931
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: that was.

932
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: Probably from The Senior, bowl which is so means that's

933
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: probably right. On and dude is a, ballplayer. Right we

934
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: talked about the kind of athletic looseness that it takes

935
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: to run good routes and be a good.

936
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: Receiver this dude has.

937
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: IT i went back to watch every single rep of

938
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: his at The Senior, bowl And i'll be, Damned bud

939
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: like his ability to come to, balance work, stems, sink his,

940
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: hips fight through. Contact he's got longer arms Than Jalen.

941
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Noel he's got longer arms And xavier Or chepo so

942
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: in contested cat situations he's. Not he's actually pretty. Solid

943
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: and his ability to create explosive offensive plays is is.

944
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: There like when you watch In Washington, state you can

945
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: take a screen seventy yards of the, house take a.

946
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: Slant he can take a. Choice he can beat you

947
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: over the. Top he can run a post.

948
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Like he reminds me a little bit of like his

949
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: name escapes, me but a guy THAT i played with

950
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: here In, washington just like good vertical, speed but better

951
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: intermediate route Running. Nuance and he just was, like this

952
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: guy can beat you in a multitude of. WAYS i

953
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever going to be a true,

954
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: too but just watching the, FILM i was, like this

955
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: feels like a guy that could do that for your.

956
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: Offense and again you got to be okay with the

957
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: body size and the physical limitations of his. Frame but

958
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: like as a, receiver he is a receiver's. Receiver AND

959
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: i loved watching how he tracked the, football love watching

960
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: his ability to create explosive plays like he's. Special the

961
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: only question for, me only question at all is are

962
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: you comfortable with his size and do you have a

963
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: some type of threshold as a team on his side

964
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: that's going to limit.

965
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: That, yeah he's definitely a playmaker with the ball in his.

966
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: Hands you want to get the ball in his hands

967
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: and he can do some special stuff with. IT i,

968
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: said like you were talking about, earlier like that short area,

969
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: quickness he was really. Goodness That so another guy that

970
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: you want to get the ball into their hands but

971
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: doesn't have the frame issues because he's sixt's five to twenty.

972
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Five is your next on the list number? Ten save

973
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: you On williams FROM.

974
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Tcu, yeah so this is like the.

975
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Opposite they're like the they're like the perfect juncta, position

976
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: per perfect.

977
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Contradiction.

978
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: Right SO i just talked About Kyle, williams excellent route,

979
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: runner like, tremendous does all the receiver things exactly the

980
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: way you want to do, it And Zavian williams does

981
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: none of the receiver things the way you want to do.

982
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: It but HE'S i think he measured in at six',

983
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: four someplace six four and. Three quarters he's two. Twenty,

984
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: five yeah he was a wildcat QUARTERBACK. At tcu he

985
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: played running BACK at tcu with the ball in. His

986
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: hands he might be the best player with the ball in.

987
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: His hands like he could play running back IN the.

988
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: Nfl easily the comms overall Comps are, cordell patters.

989
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: And that is so on, the nose. IT'S crazy i

990
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: THINK he i think he's got more second level suddenness.

991
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: To him so like your ability to like run a one,

992
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Cut route so, run up run a poet and throw

993
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: your foot in. The ground like his ability to work

994
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of a stem is there the MAIN

995
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: issue i have. WITH him i think he could be A.

996
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: TRUE rex I think i love Him in Washington with

997
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: cliff in a Creative offensive cornert that's, gonna, say hey play,

998
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: running back, play receiver, Play soft we'll get you, jet

999
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: sweep be a. Return man like that's the amount of

1000
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: juice he's bringing it to your offense, Is incredible like

1001
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: he runs with such like such. Incredible violence and that's

1002
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: THE thing i have to caution myself against is falling

1003
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: in love with how he plays because he doesn't do the.

1004
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: Receiver stuff, well yeah you KNOW what. I mean he

1005
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: doesn't do that stuff at a. High LEVEL and i

1006
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: think he. Can develop he's only been doing it for.

1007
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Two years, but gosh he is a fun player. To

1008
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: watch but my, question, is like can you play receiver

1009
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: IN the? Nfl level and how long is it gonna

1010
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: take you to? Get there so when we go to

1011
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: the combine, this week like watching him in the on

1012
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: field stuff like how does? That look how do you attrack?

1013
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: The football how's, your, gauntlet right all. Those things we

1014
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: know you're gonna, run fast we know you're gonna, jump

1015
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: high like you're gonna be, a. FREAK right i think

1016
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: He's on feldon's, freaks. List right, but gosh like such a,

1017
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: unique prospect so fun.

1018
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: To, watch yeah he's a.

1019
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: Pawsome PARANORMAL and i would, say THAT like i wrote

1020
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: down all the things that. You said the route running is,

1021
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: really messy he has problem, with drops separation is not.

1022
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: Always great he actually. GOT away i watched his highlight

1023
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 3: tape because it was just so much fun, to watch

1024
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: and he got away with a lot.

1025
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: Of pushoffs he's a.

1026
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: Big guy He's so but my, concern is like exactly what,

1027
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: you said how are you going to? Use him but

1028
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: if you have a plan, for him he is athletic, as,

1029
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: hell right powerful, explosive, absorbs contact really impressive, catch radius

1030
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: and like different ways that catch. The ball, but yeah

1031
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: it's it's All the he just doesn't play receiver all.

1032
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: That great but if you use.

1033
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: Him as you're an offensive weapon and we're going to

1034
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: find ways to get you the ball that are, NOT

1035
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: traditional i think you got. Something here so what would

1036
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: you think the commanders? Would do with a guy, like

1037
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: him or like not Even, the commanders like just a team,

1038
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: In general like are you waiting to take a piece

1039
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: like this because he's got all, these tools but it's,

1040
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 3: so unique you're going to have to make packages. Around

1041
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: him there's no way. Around it is that like a?

1042
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Luxury pick do you think or how would you?

1043
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: View?

1044
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: THAT well i think for a team Like, THE commanders

1045
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: i think that's just a good, case study like where they.

1046
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Don't have a lot of explosiveness to.

1047
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: The offense it's a, great piece right because he can play,

1048
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: running back he can play a. Wildcat quarterback imagine lining

1049
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Him And jane daniels up in. The backfield he, can

1050
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: throw he played quarterback in. High school he can throw

1051
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: the football a, little bit like just to add diversity

1052
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: and just explosiveness to, the offense just speed to. The

1053
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: offense you can line them up in. Multiple spots THIS

1054
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: is i think where the interviews become a really big part. Of,

1055
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: this right how smart, is he how.

1056
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Willing is he?

1057
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: To work how well is he is he to embrace

1058
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of more. Complicated stuff who's his? Receiver coach where's

1059
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: he training for? The combine those are PEOPLE that i

1060
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: definitely want to. Talk to and this should just give

1061
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: you some insight into how athletic this dude is because

1062
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: he does not do THE things i like. A, receiver

1063
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: well but he's just that freaky, you know like he's

1064
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: Like you're isaiah and are but his production is better

1065
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: and he's like better with the football and he's just

1066
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: like the road to him being great is a little

1067
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: bit more straightforward AT.

1068
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: The, Nfl YEAH and i would say the one THING

1069
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: that i WILL never i won't get an, answer TO

1070
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: but i would like to see it in an interview

1071
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: answered in an interview is for as big and as

1072
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: athletic as, he is he has no interest in the.

1073
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Run, game YEAH well i, THINK yeah, I mean i

1074
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: was gonna say that's that's part of, TCU's offense but

1075
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: it's not because the other guy on, His Team jack

1076
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: beck we're gonna talk about a, little bit is very interested. In.

1077
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 4: That YEAH so i would like to.

1078
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: Know why and it could, just be like you never

1079
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: know with these things because we don't we're not able

1080
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: to hear those answers.

1081
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: In interviews it.

1082
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: Could, just, be hey coach told me not to right

1083
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: like it told me you keep me healthy and stay

1084
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: out of that and we'll be affected.

1085
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: With that which you see with all of the. Color

1086
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: audit we're going to talk about. That guy we're gonna

1087
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: talk about that group in. A second but all The

1088
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: college colorado wide receivers, are like, you're like are you

1089
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: taking naps? Right now it's a. Run play you should.

1090
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Go block but you can tell that's been a.

1091
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: It's a point a point of emphasis. For them.

1092
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: All right the, NEXT guy i want to start, him

1093
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: out if. That's okay so we're now in the top ten.

1094
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: For you number Nine Is pat Bryant From. Illinois logan

1095
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: this IS what i. WROTE down i. Wrote down he

1096
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: don't give a shit.

1097
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: Love it he.

1098
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: Just doesn't he wants to make.

1099
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Plays and he doesn't give a if the ball. Is

1100
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: bad he doesn't care if he. Gets hit he just

1101
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: doesn't care about anything except catching that ball and making. A.

1102
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: Play yeah, and yeah that's like he is. A dog.

1103
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: He is he's.

1104
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: A dog LIKE when i look, at him he is a.

1105
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Dog competitor he wants to get after you as a.

1106
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Route runner, he's physical, he's long he's, six' three. He's

1107
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: two ten he's not the most refined guy. In the

1108
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: world but he's got that kind of slinky athletic route runner.

1109
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: ABILITY double stick i can put my foot.

1110
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: IN the ground i got.

1111
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: A speed cut he's Got a very he reminds me

1112
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: Of A bigger kyle williams. A Little bit kyle williams

1113
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: got that. Dog In him pat brian's got that. Dog

1114
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: In Him but pat brian's. A big dog He's a

1115
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: big dog's. In a push he's gonna and he's got.

1116
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Great body control like there was a Ball At the

1117
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: senior bawl where. It's this fade he's, getting.

1118
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: Spun around the. DB's grabbing him i don't know how.

1119
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: HE tracked it i.

1120
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Don't know how he got his body where he. Needed

1121
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: to go but it's all, over his film it's all.

1122
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Over his tape, he dog YEAH like and, i, just

1123
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: think like talk about, a cultural piece you know that

1124
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: just is a guy that's gonna fight For four quarters

1125
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: like this Feels Like.

1126
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: A pat bryant my comp.

1127
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: For him was purely, off of mentality AND it's because

1128
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: i watched him. All The time, It's, TERRY McLaurin like

1129
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: i think he has the same. KIND of mentality i

1130
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 3: don't care if. YOU'RE hitting me i don't care what

1131
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: the score is.

1132
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: IN the game i.

1133
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: DON'T care anything i. Want that ball. I'm uber, competitive

1134
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: he's not, like you said super. NUANCED or sudden i

1135
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna stress anyone down the.

1136
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Field That way, doesn't but man he, just makes, plays

1137
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: MIX plays, and i again. The movement skills it's not

1138
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: super refined, like you're saying it's. Not always clean But

1139
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: At the senior bowl. YOU see him i can, SICK

1140
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: my hips i got, GOOD foot fire i can get to,

1141
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: A double stick i. Can work releases my stems. Are

1142
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: pretty solid like. He's got it he just didn't have

1143
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: to Do.

1144
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: It at illinois and so that's the thing that gets

1145
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: me pretty fired, up about him is like he. Can

1146
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: do it. He's, got it again the vertical speed thing is,

1147
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: a little concerning but it's not THE same concern I

1148
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: Had with Troy Harden. From colorado state like this dude.

1149
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Is a dog.

1150
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: He's, a, DOG yeah absolutely i would be any team,

1151
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: that gets, Them you know like, it's, that mentality right

1152
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: if you're looking for a certain, type of mentality you're

1153
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: gonna get, it with. Him all right number eight For

1154
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 3: you is.

1155
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Isaiah bond from texas and can you look up his,

1156
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: HIDE and wait i want to say it's, five to.

1157
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: TEN five eleven i have am.

1158
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: At FIVE eleven now i don't write down like five ten,

1159
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: and three fourths so it could it could be five

1160
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: five to, ten IN something but i.

1161
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: Have, Five eleven yeah and. Dude can roll, Dude is

1162
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: fast he's sudden and for, a fast guy he runs.

1163
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: Pretty good routes he reminds me a Little bit of

1164
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: worthy from Last. Year from texas is probably because they're

1165
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: wearing similar color. JERSEYS and stuff a, little bit denser

1166
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger frame can can absolutely kill. You

1167
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: WITH speed and i think his route running is good

1168
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: enough for how, fast he is because He brings a

1169
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: he's a stick of dynamite. For your offense that's the,

1170
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: thing about him that. Is his superpower right he, CATCHES a.

1171
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: SCREEN i forget i think It, was Against alabama and

1172
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: alabama is, a, fast defense right we can all agree

1173
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: they're like a, top you know top defense. In college

1174
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: football and he is toasting people to. The end zone

1175
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: so speed and, the route running the short air. Quickness

1176
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: is good the rout running, is good Enough is what

1177
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: i'm Gonna.

1178
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: Say, ABOUT hi yeah i called it straight gas. With,

1179
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: loose wiggle.

1180
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah like he, can just go but like there's just.

1181
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: Something about him he.

1182
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: Just wiggles around he's got like your short. Area, of quickness,

1183
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: again jag eyes you have to put the.

1184
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: Ball on him it looks Like.

1185
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: He's not yeah he's not.

1186
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: A big GUY like and i think it's funny because

1187
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: like we Talk A about kyle williams not being, a

1188
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: big guy.

1189
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Big catch radius But Like.

1190
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: With JALEN noel and i Would Say with isaiah bond,

1191
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,959
Speaker 1: a little bit like they're smaller guys and you lose

1192
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: some of, that catch radius you lose some of, the

1193
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: arm length you lose some.

1194
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: Of that, stuff BUT.

1195
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: Again Like I, love pat bryant, but the Thing The

1196
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: reason isaiah bond's ahead of him is because he might run.

1197
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: A, Four, to two like. Yeah he is he.

1198
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: Looks at you he's. Got straight, gasoline so. Yeah he's

1199
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: special he's special, runner for.

1200
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: Sure all.

1201
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: RIGHT number seven i called. Him Mini me Travis Kelsey

1202
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: is JACK. BECK from tcu. I.

1203
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: LOVE it no i think.

1204
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: That's EXACTLY right and i have a special place in

1205
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: my heart for people that play the game the way

1206
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: it's supposed, to Be Played and jack beck plays the

1207
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: game that. Way he, Plays he runs he's, Got detailed

1208
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: routes he's physical at. To catch point. He loves contact

1209
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: he is going to fight for every. Ounce of everything

1210
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: like Watching With the senior bowl was blown away. Like

1211
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: every ball you would have thought it was like, his

1212
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: firstborn child the way he fights to.

1213
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: Get that thing and that's. How, He plays YEAH and.

1214
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Like i look at him and he's never gonna be

1215
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: like your true, outside the numbers like beat YOU.

1216
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: With speed x he's. Not that guy he converted from

1217
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: TIGHT end.

1218
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: At lsu TO. Receiver at tcu just to give you

1219
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: an idea the type of athlete. You're dealing with he

1220
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: reminds me. A little bit this is, gonna sound Crazy

1221
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: But before Pooga, nukua was god he reminds me a little.

1222
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Bit of that like a guy that's gonna be physical

1223
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: and scrappy in, the run game can can run through

1224
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: the football like we talk about staying grounded, Through the

1225
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: catch like he, Can do that like it's.

1226
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: A weird.

1227
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: Ball Weird angle but i'm, Not gonna jump i'm, Not

1228
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna hop i'm not gonna lose. Any stride length i'm

1229
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna run through this thing a thousand. Miles an, Hour,

1230
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm physical LIKE that's what i. Like about him is

1231
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: he a.

1232
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Little bit slower than your everybody else? In this? List

1233
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: probably right But contested catch i'm. Gonna make it.

1234
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: I'M gonna dive i can adjust the football. IN the

1235
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: air i got good. Short air quickness it's just the

1236
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: top end and juice and athleticism seems to.

1237
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: Be, slightly lacking, Yeah moving on he's one of my favorite.

1238
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: Guys to watch Number Six, is jaden higgins the Other Receiver. From,

1239
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: iowa state.

1240
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah so he is. LIKE mister smooth i think he's

1241
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: six three. And three quarters he's two hundred and five

1242
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: pounds and just Is like, a cadillac man. Just so

1243
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: smooth they can run, like double stick work. IN the

1244
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: slot i can work. ON the perimeter i catch. THE

1245
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: football well i tracked. The football well my short air

1246
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: quickness from my. Size isn't bad not the best separator

1247
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have that top, End juice right, so

1248
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: to me he gets a lot Of Comparisons. To Drake

1249
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: london drake london was and is special because of how. Physical,

1250
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: he is yeah this guy is like a skinnier Frailer Version.

1251
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Of drake london he's a.

1252
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: Little more, Passive yeah YEAH.

1253
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: And so i think that's the Difference Is like drake

1254
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: london was a top ten pick or borderline. TOP ten

1255
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: pick i don't remember. Exactly when when this guy's probably

1256
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna go in, the second round middle to late second round,

1257
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: because the smoothness the kind of ability to work multiple

1258
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: spots in the formation is. Off the chain he catches

1259
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: the football with. Nice SOFT hands but i have concerns

1260
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: about his ability to be that top flight athlete. On

1261
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: the perimeter so like just to go back and to kind,

1262
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: of reiterate this like You know Isa isaiah And, naor

1263
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: from nebraska there's no concerns about his physicality, like, his,

1264
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: height weight speed jumping ability to get done, on the

1265
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: perimeter but all the kind of technical receiver stuff. Is Somewhat,

1266
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: lacking jane higgins it's flipped like everything he does, AS

1267
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: a receiver. I love it it's are you're not you

1268
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: don't have the horsepower so, at THE combine like i

1269
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: would not be surprised to be around like a high.

1270
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: Four or five like that's just the kind of athlete

1271
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: that he looks, like, TO.

1272
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: Me yeah i so, This is again i'm, just a

1273
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: guy so it's my just a guy jag guy's WATCHING

1274
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: this and i all one thing, that sticks out and it.

1275
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: Could be stupid he jumps, unnecessarily.

1276
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: HE does, and i.

1277
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: Man it's a thing like you keep your feet. On

1278
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: the ground.

1279
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: The ball's coming you don't need to do a little

1280
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: leap or a hop or a catch it and then

1281
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: dive for. Like you don't he did that every NOW

1282
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: and then i put just lo ol, next to that

1283
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: like he tracks, the ball well but then. Will.

1284
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: UNNECESSARILY jump lol i.

1285
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: Don't know why, he's doing that but it's a small

1286
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 3: LITTLE thing because i love the other aspects of them that.

1287
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: You're, talking about.

1288
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah and it's those, are, The things right like, there's

1289
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: subtle things but they. Are A difference but i do

1290
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: THINK he is i think he gets how to RUN

1291
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: routes and i. Think he's big you can.

1292
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 4: Also tell, me, i'm wrong silly.

1293
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: But to me it's like those are questions like, you're

1294
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: so smooth but why are? We doing that you do

1295
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: it's unnecessary right and, so, absolutely, yeah yeah.

1296
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: Okay so number, five, for you uh this is the

1297
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: ONLY play that i watched two years of you had

1298
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: to yeah to because everyone was saying you have to

1299
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: because of this year was not, all that great but

1300
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: the year. Before WAS incredible so i Compared Him to

1301
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: santana moss in his twenty Twenty, three fit yeah but in,

1302
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: his newest film he was More Like a percy, Harvin

1303
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: than me like A little bit percy armand was a

1304
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: great play, for a while like MADE in, an nfl

1305
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: career but a.

1306
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: Little bit lower and.

1307
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: Actually we're talking about pretty, SOLID by, you i, think thank.

1308
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: You so uh and We're Talking, about luther burden The,

1309
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 3: third from missouri who had an incredible, twenty twenty three

1310
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: but something was a little off about.

1311
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four can you identify?

1312
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: So to, me.

1313
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: To me it Looks like he's santanamos in twenty three

1314
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: and like he's just, a little like so what do

1315
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: you mean by that explosive get the ball, in his

1316
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: hands and, he's scoring touchdowns he's. Making people miss he's

1317
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: not the most, Nuanced route runner like, it's not him

1318
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: but he is an explosive. Stick of dynamite he breaks

1319
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: tackles and he's got enough receiving kind of chops to

1320
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: make you feel. Good about It It's. Not xavion williams.

1321
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: It's not that it's he's got that kind of after.

1322
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: The catch ability like he reminded me a lot of

1323
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: who's The guy the jets Draft or the giants, drafted

1324
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: last year. The receiver neighbors he reminded, Me OF that

1325
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: like i can catch the Football well and i'm going

1326
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: to score EVERY single time i. Touched the football and

1327
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: then when you get in, twenty twenty four he looked a,

1328
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: little bit heavier looked a, little bit slower looked a little,

1329
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: bit less dynamic. Got less opportunities in, the past game

1330
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback there was, not very, good you know like

1331
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: they struggled big time, throwing the football but like just

1332
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: even on like little stuff that he would have crushed,

1333
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: the year before it just wasn't. There FOR him and

1334
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: i think that was something that was a little surprising

1335
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: to me and made. Me really, nervous and again like

1336
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: if you look at, TWENTY twenty three i Did That

1337
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: for tory Horton Right. From colorado state he's a, good

1338
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: football player and you want that guy. In YOUR program

1339
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: but i got to REALLY know when i talk to,

1340
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: you Like why and i've this is one of those

1341
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: things where you start hearing whist first through the scouting

1342
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: community this time of the year about like potential reasons.

1343
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: As to why i'm not going to do any reporting,

1344
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: on that here but there is, some stuff surrounding like general.

1345
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: Work ethic stuff let's just Say that that i'm a

1346
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: little bit like we got to get more information On,

1347
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: THAT basic.

1348
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, i mean electric he was electric in. TWENTY twenty,

1349
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: three i mean it looked like this guy could be,

1350
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: a number one, NUMBER two received i mean in his

1351
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: class with his, twenty twenty three.

1352
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three he's he's he's for sure, the third

1353
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: guy maybe.

1354
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: The second guy that's how good he was.

1355
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: In, TWENTY three, yeah i Mean and the santana moss

1356
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: came from kind, of his build but like that sudden

1357
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: change of direction without losing that.

1358
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: Speed was incredible and.

1359
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: He's not afraid he wasn't afraid of hits, good body,

1360
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: control nice hands new one to use hands, versus the

1361
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: body which Is another thing santana.

1362
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: Did really, well SO.

1363
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah when i watched, twenty TWENTY four and i intentionally

1364
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: watched twenty twenty THREE first. BECAUSE i wanted. I don't

1365
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: know i didn't want to. GET the negative i knew

1366
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: at the end of the way it was already, negative

1367
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: ON him so i wanted to see the positive first

1368
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: and not get.

1369
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: CONFIRMATION by US.

1370
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: I wish i could go back and do. That, WITH

1371
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: him well, i, still like yeah race your Like.

1372
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: Men, in black yeah and then.

1373
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: Do. It, AGAIN yeah yeah i.

1374
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: Don't know why it like it almost seems like maybe

1375
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: there's an. Injury in there that's.

1376
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah that's what. It looks like it was

1377
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: just but it's. That different though that was the.

1378
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: Thing about it it was so so STARKLY different.

1379
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: THAT i couldn't.

1380
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I just didn't i don't feel comfortable again he's, the,

1381
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: fifth PLAYER yeah because i think he's Significantly Better, Than

1382
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Jaden higgins jack beck that second. Group OF guys but

1383
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: i might bypass him pick, someone up Later Like, a

1384
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: Pat Bryant, like kyle Williams Like a isaia nay or

1385
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: YOU know, what i mean if any was available in

1386
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: the fourth, Or Fifth round like i'm taking a, shot

1387
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: ON that and, i feel like just to avoid any

1388
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of weird stuff that's around burden, at the moment.

1389
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: If you're if any team is able if you're getting

1390
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: the twenty. Twenty three guy this. GUY'S a steel i

1391
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: think he's probably. A top fifteen he's for sure a.

1392
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: Top fifteen, pick not problem that's for sure. A, Top

1393
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: fifteen yeah and if he can't me or, DO the

1394
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: commanders i would trust our, OUR scouting staff i would trust,

1395
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: our FRONT office and i would be SUPER psyched because

1396
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: i that means that they see the twenty.

1397
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: Twenty, three yeah oh or they think they can get him,

1398
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: back there right? Yeah, For.

1399
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: Whatever absolutely okay Number Four from ohio. State, a meccabuka

1400
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: yeah so.

1401
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: HE'S six one i think two oh five is what

1402
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: he's listened to at and, Reminds me of LIKE he's.

1403
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: An, nfl receiver now HE'S just.

1404
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: An nfl receiver his, floor is that, like he's PREDOMINOUS

1405
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: he's only i think he's going to be an only

1406
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: slot player at, the next, level next level kind of

1407
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: like the high.

1408
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: State Receiver That the seattle seahawks draft that a couple,

1409
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: Of Years.

1410
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Ago jackson smith yeahs Jacksons, with AND jig but i

1411
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: think he reminds, Me of that like, they're very, similar

1412
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: really smooth very, comprehensive route tree, understanding of stems, understanding

1413
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: of releases understanding.

1414
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: He attracks, the football well he's always in kind of.

1415
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: Contested CATCH situations but i think as long as you're

1416
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: okay with that and you know that's, who, he is

1417
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: like his floor. Is he blocks he like basically plays

1418
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: like your of like, in for Example In The los,

1419
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Angeles rams offense he's exactly exactly, what, You want right i'm,

1420
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: going TO block Wrote.

1421
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: I wrote cooper cup down. AS the cop i think

1422
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 4: we're right on.

1423
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: The same thing like, not overly athletic but, just does everything.

1424
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: Does everything well and as long as you get that that's, what,

1425
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: he is like he's going to contribute to your. Offense

1426
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: right away so if the commander, to draft him as

1427
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: long as, you understand that he's never going to be like,

1428
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: a true outside like over the top.

1429
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: Kind Of guy but i'm going. To work underneath i'm.

1430
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: Attract, The football well i'm going to get in The

1431
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: voids that terry's creating by working vertically. Up THE field

1432
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: like i think that's a very it's. Going to be

1433
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna make somebody, very very.

1434
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: Happy all right so NUMBER three is i think at

1435
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: the beginning. Of the year people thought That His teammate

1436
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: isaiah bond would be higher, on this list but now

1437
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: at number three for you Is, Also From. Texas, matthew

1438
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: golden YEAH and.

1439
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: So i kind of went In after watching bond, AND

1440
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: was like I Doubt that matthew golden's going. To be

1441
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: better and the initial first, couple of clips you're, kind

1442
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: of like, he's not, better he's slower he's. Not as

1443
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: effective but then you just watch the body OF work

1444
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: and i Got Really strong. Antonio briant VIBES and what

1445
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: i mean by that is like the, ability to run

1446
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: to run, into your cuts speed cuts and. LOSE no

1447
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: speed i get. TO my spots i can RUN every

1448
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: route i catch the football and. Contested catch situations i've

1449
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: got great after. The catch ability like he is, a

1450
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: smaller guy think he's, five to ten like one five,

1451
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: something Like that, but god bless he can. Run every

1452
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: route he's, got vertical juice.

1453
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: Like he's like a. Spaceship, taken on.

1454
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, he's impressive man and his ability to.

1455
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Stop is elite and. He can run you can. Run

1456
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: every route he. Catches, the football, well he's. Competitive he's

1457
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: FEARLESS the more. I watched HIM the more, i loved

1458
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: HIM the more, i was like the floor on this guy.

1459
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: Is incredibly high he's going to go someplace and just

1460
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: be make the team incredibly happy because of his ability,

1461
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: to do again the frame IS something that i think

1462
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: is going to concern a. Lot OF people but i

1463
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: think if, you get that that's who he is and you're,

1464
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: Okay with it like he's he's a, special rot runner he's,

1465
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: a special competitor and he can do stuff after the

1466
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: catch like, he's an excellent.

1467
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: Excellent football player.

1468
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: He's like an acrobat too with some of the catches.

1469
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: That he makes he turns fifty fifties in the seventy,

1470
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: THIRTIES for him i do have a question, about his.

1471
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 3: Smile his size so, because he's smaller there's kind of

1472
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: question if you would be big enough to be. On

1473
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: the outside and if he's not, an outside guy are

1474
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: you drafting him as the third wide receiver.

1475
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Off the board SO the reason i Put him Above

1476
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: becky And becke and BUKA was because.

1477
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: I think he. CAN play outside i think that's the

1478
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: difference between.

1479
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: TWO of them I think and buka is an, inside

1480
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: ONLY guy And i think golden can play outside because

1481
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: of how well, he runs routes because. Of his physicality like, it,

1482
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: was special man it was special to. Watch his film

1483
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: like he's not going to, be You Know like Roma

1484
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: dunze Or neighbors or harrison, from last year but like

1485
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: he's a good football player and the same that, we

1486
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: Talked about like beck just doing like all the little things.

1487
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: The right way imagine that in, a Smaller body but

1488
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: i'm way faster and. Way more explosive, but the competitiveness

1489
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: like you Watch, him versus alabama you Watch, him versus

1490
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: georgia like he's carrying that team with bubble screens and

1491
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: slants and goes and comebacks and creating separation and working releases,

1492
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: Off the line like THOSE are, Good nfl players THOSE

1493
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: are future nfl players. He's PLAYING against SO i thought

1494
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: i was very. IMPRESSED with him i came out of

1495
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: this like loving him. As a, PLAYER now Again i

1496
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: think i'll probably go somewhere between twenty, and thirty, five

1497
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: you know because he's not, a big guy but as,

1498
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: an offensive weapon especially in the year kind of devoid.

1499
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: Of, OFFENSIVE weapons yeah i really. Really like him he's.

1500
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: The last one, on This list and i'm, Going, TO

1501
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 3: say man i want him to clean.

1502
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 4: Up those drops did they have a?

1503
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: LOT OF drops, i i said.

1504
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: Didn't see it that's the only thing that kind of

1505
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: stood out, in his stats just. Too MANY drops but

1506
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: i think sometimes that can. Be cleaned up it may

1507
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: depend like, Like you said i'm just looking. At, A

1508
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 3: stat yeah i can't go back and look at Show

1509
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: Me all maview balan's drops because. Maybe they're, right you

1510
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: know some drops are more. Egregious than others but that

1511
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: number did kind.

1512
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: Of stick OUT so what i, will say is in

1513
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: my experience evaluating, receivers in college if they have, the

1514
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: soft hands if they track, the ball well when they get,

1515
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: a better quarterback usually that, stuff cleans up You know, What,

1516
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: i'm saying like because the QUARTERBACKS in the, nfl are

1517
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: better they, throw better balls, it's more catchable they're.

1518
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: In better positions so That's one.

1519
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: Where, quinn YOURZ though but i think quinin yours is

1520
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: not that, Good all right like in terms, Of, ball

1521
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: placements okay You know, What, I'M saying like i think, he's,

1522
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: talented physically right but in terms of like being, Late

1523
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: WITH throws like i Was talking to, santana ABOUT this

1524
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: because i experienced this. A little bit i wasn't like

1525
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: a high, volume pass, catcher but like if the quarterbacks

1526
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: timing is off delivering, you the football which yours is

1527
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: timing was off frequently when he, played a tech it

1528
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: throws your ability to catch the football off. Because you're

1529
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: off tanne described it as, your off rhythm is the

1530
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: way he described, it TO me, and, I think AGAIN

1531
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: i'm not i haven't watched all of HIS drop so i.

1532
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: Can't comment on.

1533
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: All of them but for a lot of these guys

1534
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: on This list, where, i'm like oh he has a

1535
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: hard time, catching the football if, any of them if

1536
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: you just get him with a, more CONSISTENT passer an,

1537
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: nfl caliber PASSER and an, NFL caliber offense i think

1538
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of.

1539
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: That Cleans, up all right we're going into, two AND

1540
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: one but i WANT to do i want to do. Something,

1541
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 3: unusual here okay we're going to talk about your number

1542
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: one first and then. Your number two and the reason

1543
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: is because number two is what everyone wants, to talk

1544
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: about and we're going to dive into a. Little BIT

1545
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: more so i don't want. To tease it number two

1546
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: You Have is Travis, hunter from colorado but let's talk

1547
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: about your number one wide Receiver. First From arizona.

1548
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: It's tech, McMillan tech McMillan sixty five two, and FIVE

1549
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: pounds and i just was really impressed with, how, he

1550
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: moved honestly like he just for a, guy that tall

1551
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: you don't see guys run with the route fundamentals that, he.

1552
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Runs with right you don't see them always track the.

1553
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: Football the way they don't, have the body the, consistent

1554
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: body control, like they're big they make fifty. To fifty

1555
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: catches but his ability to kind of contort and get

1556
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: up there and make catches was. IMPRESSIVE to me i

1557
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: thought he had good, short area quickness decent, Short air

1558
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: quickness i'm not going to, say good decent but, good

1559
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: release package good, understanding of stems and enough vertical juice

1560
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: to be a little scary, down THE field which i.

1561
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: WAS surprised by i wasn't expecting. THAT from him i think,

1562
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: he's pretty competitive especially in the, route running game and

1563
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: you just couple that with.

1564
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: The size and the way he. Tracks the football he catches,

1565
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: the football tremendously like he just, snatches that thing no.

1566
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 4: Problem, with drops yeah.

1567
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Snatches that THING and so i think he's got a

1568
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: decent understanding of how. To run routes he's competitive at,

1569
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: the catch point and he saw some pretty wild, coverages

1570
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: this year like, true true doubles true brackets like which

1571
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: you don't really see a lot of in college because of.

1572
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: The WHITE hatches and i think it just speaks to

1573
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: how specially, is you know and talk about having.

1574
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: Rough quarterback play his quarterback.

1575
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: Play was right so if you get him with A

1576
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: guy who i think REALLY any any nfl quarterback is

1577
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: going to be on time and, trust him that he's kind,

1578
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: of always open like he could be dominant at.

1579
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 4: The next level so coms are, my favorite thing you.

1580
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: KNOW they are. I, love it Yeah Look like george

1581
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: Pickens me THAT max should i kind.

1582
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: OF like It I think george pickens might be have

1583
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: a little bit, more vertical juice but in terms of

1584
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: how they, catch the football, it's very similar kind of

1585
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: like those big white gloves that can kind of get

1586
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: to any ball and contort. In, any, situation yeah man

1587
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's, a special, guy special player

1588
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: and there's a reason.

1589
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: He's number.

1590
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: One for me it's just like the package, of the, size,

1591
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: the movement Skills how how dexterousy is. Catching the football

1592
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: all of those things make me think he's going to

1593
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: be a like he's going to make a playmaker at,

1594
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: the next level and in a draft class devoid, of

1595
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: offensive playmakers he might be. Bumped UP slightly like i

1596
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: tried to think about like him compared.

1597
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: To last year like where. He WOULD fall And i liked.

1598
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: Romadunzay a lot but it Was Crazy watching roma dunsa.

1599
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: FILM last night i went back and Watched Them because

1600
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: michael pennix. Was, So Good Yeah like michael penix was

1601
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: just dropping dimes at every corner and McMillan never. Had

1602
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: that opportunity he's like fighting and clawing and scratching for

1603
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: every ball. On every opportunity and so it was just such,

1604
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: a different evaluation and it made me think about, That

1605
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: quarterback conversation like If you put Tech McMillan with michael

1606
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: penick junior Last year and, Romadonsay THIS year Like i

1607
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: think tech McMillan probably has, better OVERALL statistics but I

1608
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: do think romaduneza just from, a fundamental standpoint might it might.

1609
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: Be SLIGHTLY better but i Think the way tech catches

1610
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: the football man it's, it's so good it's so natural how?

1611
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: He?

1612
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 4: Does, It all right so? You're number two why is?

1613
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: He?

1614
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: Number Two?

1615
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: Okay travis hunter.

1616
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: So let me Say This. About travis hunter he's of

1617
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 1: his group by far. The best, athlete tremendous acceleration tracks,

1618
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: the football well catches. The football well like Is just

1619
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: a he's one. Of one man's, if you're saying like

1620
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: upside between, one and TWO who do i? Think is

1621
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: GONNA who do i think has? The higher Ceiling It's.

1622
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: Definitely travis HUNTER the thing i had to kind of

1623
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: pull myself, back on is ultimately we're trying. To mitigate

1624
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: risk so when, you watch him he's just out. There

1625
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: playing ball he's not running the. Most detailed routes. He

1626
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,560
Speaker 1: gets open he gets open, like a dog You know.

1627
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: What i'm saying.

1628
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: He gets open he can make it, Exposed to plays but

1629
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: in terms of, route running detail. It's Not there so

1630
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: i'm assuming he, can GET there but i haven't seen.

1631
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: IT on film i think it's The thing that i'm

1632
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: running INTO right and. I want to i almost put

1633
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: him at one just because he's he's that special. OF

1634
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: an athlete i also think the fact that he's, playing

1635
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: both ways takes a lot, of plays off takes a lot.

1636
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Of plays off he's a, little off timing a little

1637
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: off rhythm. With the quarterback and that was Something else

1638
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: that i'm assuming he's going to fix and he's going

1639
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: to be awesome at. The next level, but you know.

1640
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: He's done that. McMillan's done that he's, been on time

1641
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: he's played. A whole game he plays hard, all the

1642
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: time Like and again I'm Not saying travis hunter, can't

1643
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: do that but those are SOME things, where, I said

1644
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: hey i got to kind of manage my excitement, for

1645
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: the athlete manage my excitement for, how he creates, exposed

1646
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: to plays how he, catches the, football and say he's

1647
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: really not as polished as, even you know if we're

1648
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: going in, terms of polish he'd be the fifth guy,

1649
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: on the list right because he's.

1650
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: Not there yet so there are blue chip athletes And Then.

1651
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: There's travis hunter, like he's SPECIAL craziest athlete i think

1652
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 3: we've seen in, a long time and. Just a playmaker,

1653
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: the body control maybe the best, in, this class right

1654
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: unreal in, the short area very smoet like everything you've

1655
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: heard about this. Guy is right the negatives that, you're

1656
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: talking about like the kind of average route running or

1657
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: not top. END route running i think that there are

1658
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: a lot Of people and i'm going to put myself

1659
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 3: in this. CATEGORY as well i think it gets cleaned

1660
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 3: up because when he doesn't have to focus on both sides,

1661
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: OF the, BALL i, mean, i, Think so yeah so

1662
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: That's like if i'm putting that in, The con area

1663
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: i'm also like putting it in with a racer, ready

1664
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 3: TO go because i think he's shown so much SKILL

1665
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: and high, Iq as well like he knows how to,

1666
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: play the position he knows how, to play football is.

1667
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 4: A SMART dude.

1668
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: So i just think that like if a coach staff

1669
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 3: was to, say to him because we're just talking wide receivers,

1670
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: in this conversation if they, were to say you're just

1671
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: a wide receiver and he, buys into that that.

1672
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: GETS cleaned, up i MEAN that's what, i, Think too

1673
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: right but that's an, ASSUMPTION we're, making I know and

1674
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: i don't think it's. A hard assumption i think it's

1675
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: a very reasonable. ASSUMPTION at all i, agree with everything

1676
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: but for the purposes, of this drill THE guy that i,

1677
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: FEEL about that i feel has the higher floor Right

1678
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: now is tech McMillan if you're going to, his Highest

1679
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: Ceiling like travis hunter has the highest ceiling in the,

1680
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: entire Draft class right and that's and over state how

1681
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: ATHLETIC and how. I was shocked i knew, he WAS

1682
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: tremendous but i was shocked with how when he caught

1683
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: the football he caught up in, the ball game he

1684
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: caught A slant versus byu and just walked. Off, on

1685
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 1: everybody yeah and. YOU can't coach I. Know that's byu

1686
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: that's a bunch, of You know. Older mormon kids but

1687
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: like he's got that and really nobody else in the

1688
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: Class Outside, of isaiah bond has that. Kind of explosiveness

1689
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: and he catches the ball Way Better. Than isaiah bon

1690
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: he tracks the. Ball way better he's he's. Just a freak.

1691
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: He's a freak And.

1692
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 4: So, He's, dion, sanders yeah.

1693
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: Right he is he's got that.

1694
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: Kind of ABILITY and so i think that there are

1695
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: a lot of mock drafts that have him going one or, Two,

1696
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 3: or THREE okay and i and it's it's because of

1697
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 3: this blue chip athlete that he.

1698
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 4: HAS in them i wanted to do a little thought.

1699
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: Experiment, with you yeah, let's do it because one OF

1700
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 3: the things i was, thinking about is even if he's

1701
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: the number one wide receiver and that's all he's gonna

1702
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: play and he's going to clean up, all of this

1703
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: is he worth with mitigated risk as you're talking, about

1704
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 3: the first second or. Third overall pick and HERE'S here's.

1705
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 3: WHAT i. Did i did i'm going to do a little,

1706
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: readoff for you. Just wide receiver so we're not talking

1707
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: about the corner potential with him yet because this is the.

1708
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 3: Wide receiver pod when, we do cornerbacks we'll have this

1709
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 3: conversation again on the other side of the ball and

1710
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: maybe come furtile circle when we get to.

1711
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 4: Like our mock drafts at the end.

1712
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: Of the year but wide receivers that are drafted in

1713
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: the top TEN from the nfl in twenty twenty to,

1714
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four so the last, twenty five years, if

1715
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,839
Speaker 3: you would, first overall pick never been. A wide receiver,

1716
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: Second Overall, Pick Calvin, johnson carlos rodgers, Third Overall, Pick Braylan,

1717
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:49,839
Speaker 3: Edwards Larry, fitzgerald andre, Johnson Fourth, Overall Amari, Cooper SAMMY Watkins,

1718
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 3: Agate aj Green Peter Work. Marvin harrison, Jr Fifth, Overall Jamar,

1719
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: Chase Corey. Davis Justin, BLACKMAN all right i can keep going,

1720
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: down this list and you can google. It and look but,

1721
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: my point is at what point? Are you taking this

1722
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: is a. REALLY hard Question i know i'm setting you

1723
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: up for failure because you've seen what These guys that

1724
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: i've just listed their, careers are like and these are

1725
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: drafted before you knew what their career was. Going to

1726
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: be but where Would You put travis hunter? In these

1727
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 3: guys if he's a number. One overall pick he's the

1728
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: best wide receiver, prospect, ever apparently.

1729
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: Right and right now you're asking TO separate the dB. From,

1730
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: the RECEIVER yes but i think THE only reason i

1731
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: would assume that he's in the conversation is because his

1732
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: athleticism AND his football iq and his instincts for the game. Help,

1733
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: Mitigate risk okay AND so what i mean by, that

1734
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: is like when you look at an offensive lineman at

1735
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: tackle you drafted, number, one overall right you're always pretty

1736
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: confident that even if he doesn't work, out a tackle he, could,

1737
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: play guard right he could do this other thing, for,

1738
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: You POTENTIALLY right and i think that might be people

1739
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: are talking about him. In this way let's say you

1740
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: KNOW he plays dB, and really struggles. Like, struggles bad

1741
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: right he's a top flight athlete who played wide. Receiver

1742
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: in college we could just bump him over there potentially

1743
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: and he could be. A dynamic playmaker so that's the

1744
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: thing when you've brought this up TO me that i

1745
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: thought about immediately is maybe THAT'S how the nfl is

1746
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: looking at him as a way to manage.

1747
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: A mitigate, Risk.

1748
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: All right so, that being said DB's drafted in the

1749
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: top ten, since that time the first or second overall

1750
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 3: pick NEVER. Been a dB, The Third, Round Derek, stingley,

1751
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 3: jeff okuda fourth, Fourth Overall, pick sauce gardner, Fifth Overall,

1752
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: Pick Devin, Witherspoon Jalen, Ramsey Patrick, Peterson Eric, Berry's Sean,

1753
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: Taylor Terence. Newman quinton jammer.

1754
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 4: So if he's.

1755
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Again, if, you're saying okay well he's, a lockdown corner

1756
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 3: right and maybe he'll will get a little bit out

1757
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 3: of him. At wide receiver is he a if he

1758
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: goes number one or, number two overall is he the best?

1759
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: Corner prospect ever or is he just as good as

1760
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 3: say a fifth Overall Pick in jalen ramsey and he

1761
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: could add a little bit of wide.

1762
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: Receiver for you so that moves them. Up four picks

1763
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 4: like You see what i'm.

1764
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: Trying to say here is like putting them at number

1765
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: one overall is saying that you're gonna get both of him,

1766
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 3: all THE time which i just don't think, is gonna

1767
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 3: happen or you're the one that you get more.

1768
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: Than the other is?

1769
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 3: The best Ever now maybe I'm gonna eat crow at

1770
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: this and he's the best, football player ever like. Athlete

1771
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: wise ever come out the, best wide receiver, the best

1772
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 3: corner and In ten years, i'll, be like man that.

1773
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: Just a guy jason sure. Was an idiot BUT that's

1774
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: what i look, at with this and it's The risk that.

1775
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm TALKING about so i could see him, go third,

1776
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: pick fourth, pick fifth pick but that, Number one overall,

1777
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: i'm just like is the positional value?

1778
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 4: Worth?

1779
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: IT there yeah i think that's that's really.

1780
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: A great question and, because to me he's a he's

1781
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: specially he's such a special mover and you're counting on

1782
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: a big jump because he's going to be having, his,

1783
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: Work workload right he's going to.

1784
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: Only play receiver he's going TO. Only, PLAY dB now

1785
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: i haven't watched him A.

1786
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: TON of dB a watch, a little bit probably like

1787
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: a game, and a half but not enough to make

1788
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: any sweeping. Conclusions About him but fred's watched a. Lot

1789
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: Of them and, fred, was saying like TECHNICALLY, as a dB, he's,

1790
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: extremely raw right so there is a, Developmental curve there

1791
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: like we were talking, About The, Receiver Fred smooth fred smooth's

1792
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: are you?

1793
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: And? WITH receiver like i see.

1794
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: The same thing, it's it's there but the developmental curve

1795
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: IS more than i think people. Want, to acknowledge now

1796
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: we just we just talked about how we think it's

1797
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: very reasonable that. He gets there so thinking about him

1798
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: in the, best case scenario, if he's fresh if he only,

1799
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: plays wide receiver could he be the best wide receiver EVER.

1800
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: IN the nfl i. Don't think so but it's probably his. Frame,

1801
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: holding them yeah it's. Probably his frame but he does

1802
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: a lot of.

1803
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: Stuff exceptionally well just to Give you like i'm thinking,

1804
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: About it right i'm thinking about it like. HE is

1805
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: special d be the same thing like if you were

1806
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: to be A full time dB coach, all the time

1807
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: not tired like could. He do it he's such a

1808
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: unique athlete. In THAT way and i think that's what makes,

1809
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: this so challenging is your the floor is very high

1810
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: because the. Athleticism IS there and i just think about

1811
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: it's like the Mystery Box. On, Family guy right it's

1812
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: like you, get, a boat right which would be In this, case,

1813
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: tet McMillan right or you get, the mystery box which

1814
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: could also, be, a boat right YOU know.

1815
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: What i mean but like that's kind of what you're,

1816
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: dealing with here because it.

1817
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,839
Speaker 1: COULD be tremendous i don't think He's Better than calvin johnson.

1818
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: WAS coming out i don't think He's Better than larry

1819
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: fitzgerald coming.

1820
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: Out, h three like but those.

1821
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: Guys are special they were, special, Coming, out right yeah

1822
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: they were, refined coming out, they were polished. They Were,

1823
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: receivers jamark chase where?

1824
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Was?

1825
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: He, fifth overall like is He Better? Than jamar, chase

1826
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: absolutely not YOU know, What, i mean. Like absolutely NOT

1827
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: and so i think, to your point you're talking about

1828
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: taking him.

1829
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: One, four spots.

1830
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah LOVE that and i think that's the thing that's

1831
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: really confusing about it is because you're always trying, to

1832
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: MITIGATE risk and, i THINK here, if I was if

1833
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: i was, making an argument IF you're THE gm and

1834
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: i want him to be the, First overall pick I'm

1835
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: working FOR tennessee and i want him To be the.

1836
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: Farson overroll, pick i'm like we have never seen an,

1837
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: athlete like this and, that IS true and i want

1838
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: him To Be. A, Tennessee TITAN yeah and i think

1839
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: that's where you come.

1840
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 4: Down on it and, you know what that's a really

1841
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 4: good argument.

1842
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: BECAUSE he's incredible i love Watching him and i'm gonna

1843
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 3: love Watching, them on sundays except if he plays a

1844
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: commandian and if he's, only the, commanders oh.

1845
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: My do that but he just just to give like

1846
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: he is that special.

1847
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: As an athlete, like and again and we're splitting Hairs

1848
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: here saying ted McMillan is a better, receiver than him.

1849
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: Because he is but is he got to be a

1850
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: better RECEIVER?

1851
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: IN the nfl.

1852
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: I don't know i, would assume, not but, like, who

1853
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: knows right HE, MAYBE'S better dB, i.

1854
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: Don't know, Right all right so we're going to end

1855
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: the show the way that we always end these when we.

1856
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: Do our rankings they're just, for the nerds the guys That.

1857
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 3: Just love ball these are guys that who knows when they're.

1858
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: Going to go they're just guys that you. Watched their

1859
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 3: film maybe there's, something missing, here missing there but they

1860
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 3: have something, that you're like this is a player to

1861
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: watch out for in the later rounds or outside. This

1862
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 3: top fifteen you're just you, just liked watching just wanted to. Bring, them,

1863
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 3: UP yeah yeah i just want to. Bring them, Up

1864
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead So xavier Or. STREPPO from miami i think

1865
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 3: a lot of you, are probably like why isn't he in?

1866
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: Your top fifteen his, film is diabolical. It's so, good

1867
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: you know he's the all time Leading. Receiver at miami

1868
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: he Just Passed, S, antana moss, Like come on like.

1869
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: He's a freak he works. In the slot he has.

1870
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: DROUGHT running nuance i think the thing that got me

1871
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: with him was watching Him At the senior bowl and

1872
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: realizing how short, he actually was how short, his arms

1873
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: were and kind of how kind of. Stumpy he is

1874
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: just generally like everything you want there is there from a,

1875
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 1: ro RUNNING standpoint but, i was like he is only

1876
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: a slot guy with kind of. Limited athletic upside that

1877
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: was the thing that got.

1878
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: ME with him, i, WAS.

1879
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 4: Like oh i love him.

1880
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: So, when you know but when you, watch the FILM

1881
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: but LIKE i think i, in my notes like we can.

1882
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: Look him up it's probably, on there somewhere.

1883
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: But like he gets how to get open, from the

1884
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: slot but at the Nails At the, senior bowl though

1885
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: and again don't over judge a, senior ball practice but

1886
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: got kind. Of Gloved up so i'm a little Bit

1887
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: like now i'm questioning. A little bit and this is,

1888
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: what this is what these, events, are for right is

1889
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: to go back and reevaluate some of that film you were,

1890
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 1: watching and say is this going? To be fatal like

1891
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: he might go to the combine and run a four

1892
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: to six and then all, of a sudden all of this

1893
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: makes a little.

1894
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 2: BIT more sense i don't think that's. Going to happen

1895
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: but he is.

1896
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: A FOOTBALL player but i just he's not on MY

1897
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: fifteen because i have a little bit of a question

1898
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: about him.

1899
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: Posts, SENIOR bow.

1900
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 3: Well i think he's perfect here in, the FORDA nerds

1901
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: because i don't know where he's going. To go to

1902
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 3: the combine is going to mean a lot to him

1903
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: with his, measurements coming OUT he could i mean the,

1904
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: ceiling to me would Be Like a steve. Smith Like

1905
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: Player although steve, smith was fast.

1906
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing he's not that, He's he's not but.

1907
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: It's, The attitude right like, it's the yes the attitude

1908
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: that You had with like That's why The Ravens took.

1909
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: Steve smith one he had just just had that attitude

1910
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 3: even when he. Started losing stuff so yet the cop is,

1911
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 3: more with attitude not necessarily the production or. How to,

1912
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: play and like if you're going to get a guy,

1913
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 3: that's like that LIKE once the i mean wants to

1914
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 3: fight everyone on the field and just this is this means,

1915
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: everything to, Him this game like that's gonna be a

1916
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 3: good guy to have in your.

1917
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: Having, your room yeah but, think, about speed, cuts double,

1918
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: sticks choice shrouts all that. Stuff is excellent it's just how?

1919
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: Athletic are? You you know and how? Sudden are you

1920
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: but every every the film's excellent and he's a.

1921
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: Great football player.

1922
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 3: And speaking of speed and the guys, that are wow

1923
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 3: interesting that they're not in your top fifteen.

1924
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 4: To Be honest Tes, Johnson FROM oregon So I.

1925
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: LOVE tes johnson i. LOVED his film i loved him at.

1926
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: The senior ball he's five to ten hundred. FIFTY five

1927
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 2: pounds i just don't know what you do with some

1928
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: dude who one hundred and, Fifty, five pounds like that's ten

1929
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Pounds Lighter, than tank dell ten Pounds Lotter. Than tank

1930
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 2: dell that's twenty Pounds lighter Than. Smith, from philadelphia Right,

1931
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: The slim reaper like he is, a small man.

1932
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: Very very Small He's he's, brandon, Banks SMALL right and

1933
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: i think about Having Played, With, brandon BANKS yeah and

1934
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: i think about him knowing that the weigh in Was

1935
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: At the senior bowl on the day that, it was

1936
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: on and how he probably drank a. Ton of water

1937
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: he's Probably one fifty like, he's HE'S small and i

1938
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: just don't know if that plays like for a SEASON at.

1939
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: The nfl level and let me, BE perfectly clear i,

1940
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: Think he's fantastic like, he's, great coronery quickness, great explosive,

1941
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: weapon he's, competitive he's tough he's on hundred.

1942
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 2: FIFTY five pounds I, just don't.

1943
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah sometimes, you have to you have to weigh in

1944
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 3: that they can be the best football player. You've ever

1945
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 3: seen some guy weighing three hundred pounds that six y

1946
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,919
Speaker 3: six is going to hit him and, at Some, POINT.

1947
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: And KENNY i think i think. This is true he's

1948
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: the smallest person if he weighs in at one to

1949
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: fifty five ever to play RECEIVER.

1950
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 2: IN the nfl i.

1951
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: THINK that's true i have to, double, check that SURE

1952
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: but what I but what i'm saying is like that's

1953
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: you're dealing with such an outlier here that it's hard

1954
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: for me to again like, his film's impeccable like it

1955
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: just what do you can you do it?

1956
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: For A season like?

1957
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: I don't know and if you've got a plan in a, role,

1958
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: For HIM great but i, WAS really again i was.

1959
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: Out a LOT that's why i put him on this

1960
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: logan's extras because like, Both These guys Xavier Restrepo and

1961
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: tes johnson are, excellent football players a little bit.

1962
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: Worried about it ristrepo's.

1963
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: Like length lack the lack of ideal length and like

1964
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: lack of like, top Fight Athleticism and tess johnson is

1965
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: maybe the smallest player ever to play the receiver POSITION.

1966
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: In the, nfl all.

1967
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: Right your last one here for the nerds Out There

1968
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: is Trey harris From ole mess.

1969
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: And this is A guy THAT i thought i would

1970
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: love so he's, six y three he's two hundred and

1971
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: five two hundred, and ten pounds. MAYBE two fifteen i

1972
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: don't remember the exact number that they had from on the,

1973
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: old miss website. But big guy and THE thing that

1974
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: i came away with is he was not very sudden in.

1975
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: The short.

1976
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Area he's explosive he reminds me a LITTLE Bit of

1977
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: dk metcalf and that's, a good thing but it's also.

1978
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: A bad thing, so he's explosive he can get, down

1979
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: the field but doesn't play like a six' three dude

1980
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: in terms, of like contested catchability and when, he catches

1981
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: the ball he's not super physical or. Dynamic after the

1982
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: catch like his Best, game was, against furman you know

1983
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: WHICH is like, a d two school and he. Looked

1984
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: like a freak but then he kind of just. Looks

1985
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: like a guy so are?

1986
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 2: You getting a dude and Again comparing him to alec

1987
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: and newman ar how do? You Say his Name? Anna?

1988
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Manor, From stanford right yeah, like he makes, plays he

1989
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: plays big he. Plays above the, rim He's competitive's stuff

1990
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not, saying TREY harris isn't but, i just

1991
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: was like are you, just a big dude who's? An

1992
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: okay wide receiver or can you DO this? At the

1993
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: nfl level so that became a little that became a little.

1994
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: BIT of a question i think he's help be in

1995
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: the top ten for, a lot of people But for

1996
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: me that i've seen so many big receivers get. Drafted

1997
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: because they're big and does he have the ability to

1998
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: run to do those, things like the? Releases the change

1999
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: direction can he do that?

2000
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: AT a high.

2001
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: Level i DON'T know so if i see him at

2002
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: the seat combine moves around okay, compare to everybody else.

2003
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: Maybe MY tune changes but i, was watching the, film

2004
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: watching the highlights watching the, CUTUPS that we have i

2005
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 1: just didn't see anything, that, made me go oh there's

2006
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: something that makes me think. He can do it it's

2007
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: all and again it's. The OLD miss offense but i

2008
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: would just be a little bit cautious around again at.

2009
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: NAME like that logan i love.

2010
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 3: DOING these with you i the wide receiver one was.

2011
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 3: A lot of fun it was. A lot of fun

2012
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 3: and you put me on to some of The Guys

2013
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 3: like the, ISAIAH nayor and, like i don't know this

2014
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 3: one's just wide receiver is just a. Fun, one to,

2015
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 3: WATCH yeah and yeah i just really enjoy doing. These

2016
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 3: pods with you thank you for. DOING it with me

2017
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 3: i know we're coming out a day later, that we

2018
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 3: normally do but we were. ABLE to find time i

2019
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 3: appreciate you, doing that little yeah because we're about to

2020
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time together because we're going. Out

2021
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 3: to the car and you need to like and subscribe

2022
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 3: to this podcast if you Like it hearing what, logan

2023
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: has TO say and, whenever i chime in you can.

2024
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: Give or Take that but, when logan chimes in he's

2025
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 3: gonna tell you everything he sees each. Day from the

2026
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 3: combine so we're just gonna give You. A rundown on

2027
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: thursday we will have a podcast at the, end of

2028
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 3: the day so make sure you Subscribe to get It

2029
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 3: thursday night or friday morning on. Your way to work

2030
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the measurements and new on

2031
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 3: field workouts from the defensive. Line and The linebackers then

2032
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: on's friday it's. DB's, and tight ends saturday we'll put

2033
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: out an, episode it's running back, quarterbacks and wide Receivers

2034
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: and then on. Sunday the old line we'll get all,

2035
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 3: these out for you so back to back to back.

2036
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,799
Speaker 3: To back to back You'll, Have, An, Episode. Thursday friday

2037
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: saturday sunday it's a lot of us watching a lot

2038
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 3: of drills. And guys get measured but.

2039
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: That's where we're doing we're.

2040
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 4: Nerds and we're crazy we, kind. Of like it yea so,

2041
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 4: If you like it logan will get you all.

2042
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: Everything that he sees exclusive access will be right there

2043
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: on the field and he'll get get you his analysis.

2044
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Right away right away can't. Wait to do it and

2045
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,879
Speaker 2: thank you so much for. Listening to the podcast.

2046
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it and again make sure you leave

2047
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: a comment about what position group you want, us to

2048
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: do next and That'll be after the combine because we're

2049
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: giving the other Position because we're giving combine stuff for

2050
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,839
Speaker 1: the next, Couple of the podcasts so. Looking forward to it,

2051
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: but for today's show. That's gonna do it